Boonta Vista - EPISODE 228: Queensland Reds Brain (Feat. Phoebe Paradise)

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

Brisbane icon, fashion designer, artist and podcaster Phoebe Paradise joins us to talk about: The saga of a possible Banksy in Kidderminster, an adults-only golf course in Sheffield, and some magic socks that will QR code your body into perfect health. *** Phoebe Paradise: https://www.phoebeparadise.com/ Don't Worry It's Not Just you: https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/dont-worry-its-not-just-you/id1592573549 *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: shop.boontavista.com/ Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Hello and welcome to Punonavista, episode 228. I am Ben and I am here in Brunswick Street Mall in Fortitude Valley on a Thursday night sometime around 2012. Dizzy Deathrays are playing at the Rev, probably supported by Veloceraptor. Your friend's shitty band is playing at the tempo, but it's almost worth going because the guy from the Butterfly Effects new band is the headliner. There's five dollar basics at a lumber and some US touring comedian will be doing a surprise DJ set there at 2 a.m. Life is spectacular.

Hoping to do some shit karaoke but now pled for his life after having accidentally wandered into the tiny Pokeys room at the back of RGs and knocked over the drink of a former Bikie who has been awake for two days, it's Andrew. Hi Andrew. Hey, what's up? Can I get you another drink? Maybe? What was it? A vodka raspberry?

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the mall near the smoke shop that sells pizza cabbbs and fish and chips that no one in the history of the valley has ever ordered before. It's Lucy. Hey, Lucy. Hi. I definitely know what you're talking about, and I understand all of the words that you're the words, the words, the words, and I the words, and I the words, the words, and I the words, the words, the words, and I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, that, that, the the the the the that, thi, thi, the the the the their tho, the tho, tho, the the the thi, the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th th th th, th th thi, th thi, th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. toa toooa. tooooooooooooa. that, thia thi, thi, thi, thi, th Yeah, you know, there's like a smoke shop there and then next to it there's a place that's sort of like a fronts directly onto the mall and they have kebabs and pizza and also fish and chips. That's just sounds handy like you can get everything you need in the one spot. That's true except I genuinely I would be I need to stake out that place maybe because it's still there nine years later, and find out if anyone has ever

at like one in the morning been like, I'm getting fish from this place. I would love to know. And last but not least, pissing in the disabled toilet at Ricks with nine of her friends, its artist, fashion designer, musician, executive producer of Take Look Around, host of the podcast, don't worry, it's not just you, and the world's second biggest Brisbane fan. It's Phoebe Paradise. Hey, Hey, I've lost my phone. Can everyone stop what they're doing and help me find it? Going out into the smokers hair at Ricks and yelling to a hundred people, hey, have you seen a motor-roll flip? Can you please turn the lights on? I know it was somewhere. I've been yelling at the DJ for the last two hours. It's around here somewhere. That DJ also invariably probably DJ Mikey almost guaranteed.

Fun story about that fish and chip place. I've actually had fish and chips there. Oh my god. Oh, You're psycho. Regrettably. But my favorite part about that place is that if you sit there and watch the front of it long enough, say if you're just like smoking in the valley more like I would have in 2012, is you can just watch pigeons walk in and out and just eat directly off of the kebab, like the spinning kebab meat. Oh my god. They just walk up and just like take a few bites and then just get like someone like,

you know, trys to scare them off and then they just wait until they can come back right in again. No one stops them. Bad pigeon. There are three of those sorts of like greasy takeaway places on the mall to my recollection at least when I was still going there and that one was by far the worst of the three I think there's that the bigger mostly pizza focused one that I think has the

most polished to it but I don't like the vibe of and then the one that's mostly the kebabb one pretty good alright they all have like a really adversarial approach to customer service. Which is great. I deeply respect it. They're working in the worst customer service environment in the world, which is just like drunk 19-year-olds just like walking in and making all of their problems, the problem of someone who is manning a kebab shop at one in the morning on a Wednesday. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a little bit of issue and disagree with that. I think it's actually being

in a working in a kebabbab shop in London. Oh yeah that'd be bad at like 3 a.m. Yeah, bunch of chavs coming in. Probably more racist too. Yes. Lots of violent children. It's like setting up a stall at like Helmsdeep. You know? Ah, London. I went there once and I was like, well, how soon can I get out of here? Yeah? Yeah. Did not care for it.

I only went there to visit my brother who was living there at the time. Truly terrible city in one of was living there at the time. Truly terrible city in one of the worst countries in the world, England. And we've had somebody right into us to tell us a little bit more about the horrible, awful goings on over there. Let's check it out in this edition of the hotline. Mailback at bolavista.com, maybe DM us on Twitter. You could even message Facebook, but we don't really check the Facebook, yeah. 8003175-5, that's the Buntavista hotline.

1,8003175, that's the Buntivista hotline. That's the Buntavista hotline. That's the Buntavista Hotline. That's the Buntivista Hotline. If you want to contact the Muntivista Hotline, rewind by what, 30, 45 seconds. Minutes, 2.2 minutes. Listen to it again. Minuita 2. Let's do it again. And then get to the point where all of the email addresses, phone numbers and stuff

are just kind of ingrained, deep into your psyche. And then you'll be able to send something into us whenever you like. Just like listener Jack did. So Jack wrote into us to inform us of some things happening in England that it turns out we had already spoken about on a bonus episode behind the Iron Paywall, which he, up until that point, hitherto had not been behind the Iron Paywall, but then he signed up immediately after I replied to this email, which maybe feel bad, it made me feel like I had personally guilted him into it. Which I don't feel great about, but but anyway, but he, so that the original, the first of the four things that we had covered was a story that we did th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the tho, the, the, the the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, tho, the, they, thr, throwne, throwne, tho, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the four things that he sent us that we had covered was a story that we did on the bonus episode, Night of the Swamp Oyster, and that was the story of a terminally

ill man who was ticking off items on his bucket list, one of which was mooning a speed camera and he did that and then he was immediately violently arrested by the police who gave him some sort of brain bleed when they raided his house and threw him to him to him to him to him to him the to him the the their him their him their him violently arrested by the police, who gave him some sort of brainbleed when they raided his house and threw him to the floor and arrested. Yeah, they raided his house, I remember that one. It's so cool. He was instantaneously swatted by the British police. Literally the same day that he learned a fixed point speeding camera. Uh-huh. No, it was a van. It was a van. Yeah, he went home. He the the the th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He was like, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was th. He th. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He, he, he, he, he, he, he was, he was, he was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. It was a van. He went home and then a couple hours later, cops kicked his door and throw him on the ground.

Fuck cops, obviously. But it turns out this story... Pointing their guns and screaming, Show me your ass! That is not where the story finished. Not at the slightest. This here is a story from the Kiderminster Shuttle. Is the name of the newspaper.

We've definitely spoken about Kitaminster before. Yes, well this happened in Kitaminster, which I think was... Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? Why we spoke about it. German for Small Monster. That's right. Yeah. Uh-huh. The headline here is Kitaminster reacts to new Bart Simpson Banksy mural. Now Phoebe, you like art right? Yeah, Big Banksy fan over there. Banksy definitely counts. Big, big art head, you heard of this Banksy guy. Yeah, my favorite kind of art is like

a single color image of like a little girl holding a You know, bouquet of flowers, but the flowers are like, you know, batons that belong to a police officer and she's standing on a pile of skulls. It's really cool to me, it's really deep. You could say I'm an intellectual artist. Well, see, like your art, you know, and I don't want to insult you, I don't want to anything, but like it's kind of like, you know, it's just like, it's artistic for the sake of being artistic, whereas Banksie's stuff actually means something, you know, like it's maybe it's a cop and he's pulling his dick out but the dick is a flag that says world peace. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I just draw stuff that I see but he really like sees, you know what I mean? He really understands

what's going on in the world. He sees Ronald McDonald's the clown that the clown associated with McDonald's the fast food chain and he thinks, well what if that guy that he paints that on th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin to to to thin to to thin to thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin fast food chain, and he thinks, well, what if that guy had a gun? And then he paints that on the side of a Tesco's. Sounds like you could be Banksy. Like you really sound like got a lot of inside information. What do you think of massive attack? I am actually a huge fan of the works of my, I mean, of a band, massive attack Attack. Yeah. Little band. I go by the name, Bob, incidentally. That's just one of the many names that I go by, Robert, sometimes.

I don't think he is Banksy, just quietly, the guy from Massive Attack. Really? Because I think he would have, he would have slipped up at some point. I think he would have accidentally been like, this next song's called's called's, by the way, I am the artist known as Banksy. Ah, damn it! Oh, fuck! Fuck! Shit!

God damn it! I don't know. I feel like, how much the value of his work would instantly evaporate the moment he gets named. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like, the moment they're like, oh it's just that cun for massive attack, they're like, oh wait, this art is just really shitty. This is just some like Gen X dude painting a monkey with a gun. And like- It will just be some Gen X dude, like it'll be the most Gen X-Man imaginable. The most guys like really skeptical of doctors are generally skeptical of science.

Yeah, it is fun to imagine what the most Gen X-Dud imaginable is. Yeah, what do you picture in? I'm picturing cake shirt? Yep, 100 percent. He is listening to the hoodoo gurus though. He has a, okay, it's kind of cool. He has a Raymond Pettibon tattoo, but it's not it's not, it's not, it's not, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the th. It's the th. It's the the the the th. It's the the the the the the th. the the th. thi. the thi. the the thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's the the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. thi. thi. the. the th hoodoo gurus though. He has a Raymond Pettibond tattoo, but it's not one of, it's one of Raymond Pettibon's works that got famous because it was an album cover for Sonic Youth. Oh shit. Yeah, nice. I'm picturing like a t-shirt that is like the black flag logo, but instead of black flag, it's for like a taco place that's near his house. Oh, God.

That's fucking grim. And like, instead of the bars, it's like little tacos, you know? Yeah, nice. This is why you're the artist. Yeah, yeah. Incidentally, we will be stealing that idea for merch. It will inexplicably still be tarkos. Number one Gen X podcast.

Well, yeah, so if you do like Banks, you get ready for this, you're going to love this. Kitta Minster residents have flocked to see new graffiti that many believe could be the work of famous street artist Banksy. What's the cool thing about being Banksy is at this point you don't really need to do anything. Someone else does something and people go, ooh, it's probably a Banksy, isn't it? It's a stencil of a duck wearing one of those British police helmets and everyone's like, holy fuck he's been here. There's people like getting into car accidents like because they're trying to stop around this thing. They had a documentary about Banksy, about people, like, stealing portions of buildings, like carving concrete blocks out of buildings that they were formerly Banksy graffiti pieces painted on because

they wanted to like steal it and sell it. And a lot of the time people will be doing this shit, like they'll in the dead of night be carving concrete blocks out of the wall, only to realize later that it's not a banksy it's just some graffiti and then going to prison for the rest of their lives because of it. Put a wall put a hole in someone's apartment. Yeah. When I'm very very sad story was when I lived in Melbourne and there was like a, again, purportedly a banksy piece and it was in like hardware lane or somewhere very, very prominent and very foot trafficky, you know. And you have the whole thing going on with like graffiti and street art and all that sort of thing

where people are like, yeah, the point of it is that eventually someone else will paint something over the top, you know? And local business owners were like, no, my tourism, and they got like a perspex, they got like a perspex thing that was hard mounted onto the wall, so none of the other naughty artists could paint over the valuable, from the good street artist. It is is thist, thist, that's that's that's that's that's art is that's that's art is that's that's that's th is all the valuable valuable Banksy. From the good street artist. It's what it's all about you know? That's yeah that's what

street art is all about is like preserving property value. That's mainly what it's about. And then some good soul came along with a can of paint and just poured it up against the side of the wall and the Perspex thing and it ran down the middle. Yes. Fantastic. And they were all so mad! the thank. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the th. the the the the th. that. th. the street the street the street the street th th th. th. th. that's all all all all all all th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the street. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the th. the the th. th down the middle. Yes. And we ruled the Banksy and they were all so mad. They were so cranky about it. Fuck Banksy. We're the first group of people brave enough to say they don't find the work of Banksy particularly entertaining. But I mean, I think the, you know, what Phoebe's talking about, the attempt to kind of like somehow formalize and preserve the value of a type of art which is usually intended to be very

like spontaneous and ephemeral, like a mandamus. Transitional, you know, yeah, it's something that is just it is supposed to be impermanent, you know Yeah, so it's very funny to see people doing this sort of desperate grasping to go If that's a Banksy, which I'm kind of assuming it is Haven't heard anything from the man himself, but massive attacker on tour soon I'll ask you like, yeah, this looks like shit. It's probably a bank's... The same approach to NFTs as well. If it's like the ugliest artwork you've ever seen in your life, it's like, this is going to be worth so much money in Ethirium soon.

So you know it's good. I assume we've all heard the theory that like this, that with the NFTs,that it's basically the artistic equivalent of like typos in scam emails. Or to weed out, yeah, the theory, no, to weed in emails. Yeah, when you get things and you're like, this is riddled with like typos and weird characters and stuff. Who would possibly fall for this? And the theory, don't know if this is true, is that it's basically just to make sure that you are........ th. th. th. th. th. th. the that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you are that you are that you are's basically just to make sure that you are catching the biggest rubes imaginable And uh and the theory with NFTs is that that's why it all looks like absolute shit I'm sure it's a combination of yeah I'm willing to counter my personal theory is that it's mostly created and bought by people with the artistic sensibility that leads people to fill their house with Funkopops. Yeah. Yeah, I think. I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, the, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the artistic sensibility that leads people to fill their house with Funkopops. Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's also

fair and and the fact of course that they are all like programmatically generated, they're all things where where you go all right here's the template and now I've made a bunch of different hairsty sunglasses and a bunch of harny walrus images with the haw-tarsie-t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t te-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-p-p-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-p-p-p-p-o-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-pppppppppppppppppppppppppppp-p.eeeeatt thss ths ths theat-p-p-p-p-st se seeat-stopsecleaauuuuu-stopseffeau-stopseau-stopseau-toyleleleleleau-topseo-toyau-toyaeat-toyeateatt that go on it and a bunch of different sunglasses. You can make thousands of horny walrus images with the haunny walrus generator. And then I will run a little bit of software that puts them into every possible configuration and then I say, I've minted 8,000. I hate that word. Yeah. Mastabating skunk, NFTs. I wish they were masturbating skunk. At least that would be like funny.

Useful to somebody. Yeah. It's just a line with a mohawk or something. So you're saying NFTs are good because they appeal to the worst possible people and they scam them. That's what I'm hearing. I am enjoying like the rug pools and stuff. But it's the worst of that group of worst people that are the ones that are making the money and then the least worst of them are the ones that are losing all the money. So still there's no justice. Yeah, like the only real news that I see from it because I've like muted a lot of that stuff is just from

like artists whose work has been stolen and then uploaded without their knowledge. So like the most common post I see on Twitter are like, artists with big followings being like, someone just emailed me and sent me like a link to this, you know, NFT gallery where someone else has just made like 100K off of this fucking artwork that I did on DV and art 10 years ago, whatever. Oh God. And like, the white-hot fury that comes from it is just like some fucking dickhead is like making heaps of money off of someone else's art. It's a, yeah, it sucks real bad.

Yeah, that's bad. I think that that has been and will continue to be a thing in any sort of online economy because like when you see those ads on things like Instagram and YouTube and stuff where people are like, I'm gonna show you how I use the internet to make $5,000 a week by doing nothing and the answer is always like use some third-party service and set up 1,500 drop shipping accounts full of stuff and anywhere that you look on the internet you can find these drop shipping services where they have just scraped the art from all these different things. Like you know, there's a whole bunch of shit on like, um, I don't want to say red bubble.

I want to say something else. Yeah, for sure. There's fucking scam Bunt of vista shirts on red bubble. Yeah, well that's what I was going to say. What? Yeah. And of course, they make it, you know, these companies in general make it as difficult as possible. They all say, hey, we comply with all the copyright laws. But, yeah, but obviously like, there are people who set things up where you can just say, scrape artwork from all these different places. It's like the things on Twitter you see where someone says, man, I wish I had that picture on a shirt. And then a bot replies five minutes

later and says, I have placed this on a shirt for you to order it. I mean, that fucking sucks real bad. The technology involved, occasionally quite cool. Like where they will isolate what the design is, do an image search on that image and I'm like, that's smart. And apply it the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thin, thin, th. th. th. I th. I th. I'm, thin, that, that, that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I've, I'm, I've, I've, I'm thr. I've, I've, I've, I'm th. I've, I've, th. th. I've, I've, I've th. I've th. I've thr-I've, I've, I have, I've, I've, I've whatever, and I'm like, fuck man, that's smart. And apply it to the thing and set up a product and all that sort of stuff. And all of that is automated. But if you want to contact whatever company and say, hey, actually I own all of these images and sell them as much through my own website, can you take them all down? The only way that you can do that is by filing like individual, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the only the only the only the only the only the only the the only the only thi, they, they..i, they, they.i, they.i, they. thi. thi. thi. thi. of them. You cannot say, hey someone, you know, this user has a shop and they have 50 products in there and they're all ripped off from my shit. Can you take it down? Only way to do it, file an individual report for each one with

the URL for each one and a link to your, you know, an initial thing. So obviously it's massively overbalanced towards people who can automatically generate the theft. Exactly, and they're like, oh look, you know, we've got this massive company, we've selling, you know, like millions and millions of t-shirts, but we don't hire a single moderator to like deal with these complaints. It's literally just one guy that works here and I'm just like pulling all of the levers all at once so I might really stress but I can't respond to your emails about this. It hasn't happened to me

but one of my good friends Sam, his artwork is just pillaged with impunity on Red Bubble and I made this little video to tease him with it of just like every single like Russian eBay like iPhone case and like you know like those silky jerseys and stuff that have like taken his work and I'm like at the end of it yes it sucks that this artwork has been stolen yes these companies are awful but I'm also like I don't know how many people are actually buying these items like like I don't know what the conversion rate actually is for these are awful. But I'm also like, I don't know how many people are actually buying these items. Like I don't know what the conversion rate actually is for these things. I mean it doesn't have to be high though, right? Like if you do it for every single, you know, fucking JPEG that you scan on the internet and then one in every 10 million people does it a week, but I'm still making, you know, a couple hundred bucks? Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, I, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I's the. I'm they. I'm the. I'm the. I'm they. I'm they. I don't the the the the the. I the conversion, the conversion, the, a couple hundred bucks. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, again, that comes back, that comes back to the scam email principle, which is that it doesn't really cost you anything to blast out hundreds of thousands of them. And if a very, very, very small percentage of people come back to you and say, I'd like to give you my money, then that's free money. Then that's free money, you know? It is free money. It's like it's free money to do a picture on the side of a house and say, oh look everyone, a Banksy. It's a Banksy. Oh yeah. The mural, located on an underpass the waterbill pub. Thank you for suddenly picking that up. Wow, we're so good at podcasting. Well oiled machine. mean, I'm just, that's just sweat, I'm not oiled. The mural was inspired by the story of town resident Darryl Meekham, who was arrested after mooning

a speed camera. Mr. Meekham, age 55, told the shuttle, I know Fancy, it's the sort of thing. I know Banksy, it's the vein of doing things. What? Oh yeah, Banksy have loved this kind of thing. Yeah, I know Banksy, and he definitely would have loved this. Kiddivist's... Walking the streets and declaring things to have a real Banksy energy. Kittempsi residents have now had their say on the artwork, which features TV icon Bart Simpson. TV Bart Simpson.

Faber's TV star, Bart Simpson. Shalina Giles said on Facebook, is it a Banksy or is it not a Banksy in Kitterminster? That is the question. It's still pretty neat. Tom Long said on Twitter, we once took the kids to the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. It was amazing. But to be able to view the latest Banksy up close in Kitteminster to that was pretty special. Now this is the first of three articles that we're going to go in this saga. So here is article number two, also from the Kiderminster Mural for Mooning Man revealed. Wow, a hell of a sentence.

The graffiti artist behind a mural tribute to a man arrested for mooning at a speed camera has been revealed. Glasgow based artist the Rebel Bear who has been dubbed the Scottish Banksy has claimed to have painted the art on Instagram. Macbanksy. Macbanksy. D'i. Mickbanks. Oh boy. Dressed in a pink bear costume, the artist has been creating graffiti art across Scotland for years more recently during the COP26 climate talks. The Rebel Bear hit headlines for COVID-19 related artwork and is perhaps best known

for a painting of a couple who have dropped their face masks to kiss. Oh, yeah. That's cool. That's so good. So much to think about. On Instagram, the Rebel Bear posted the bear read the story, he talks in third person I guess. The bear read the story of a termily ill man, Darrell Meekham, who mooned a speed camera as part of his bucket list, and then the subsequent response by the police and decided to take a wee trip down to Kitterminster to make a little comment. Now do it in a Scottish accent. Yeah, let's definitely try that. As I said, what I message you, Darryl, for however long you have left in this world, I hope your days are filled with the the the their theirham, whereas multiple system atrophy in Parkinson, said he was honored by the

mural. He told the shuttle, it's fantastic. It's a bit of fun, isn't it? He's a well-known artist in his own right. They call him the Scottish Banksy. You know why they call him the Scottish Banksy? He's Scottish? Yeah, because he's Scottish, he's, he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, and he's Scottish, thi is thi, he's Scottish, thi, he's thi, he's thi, he Scottish? Yeah, because he's Scottish and his whole career is ripping off Banksy. Just Google Google the Rebel Bear.

Oh, I just feel good. Maybe the Rebel Bear and just look at, oh and he's totally a fucking anti-vaxer too. Oh, is it? It's gotta be? I mean, with that artwork. No, look, I was about to say this guy sounds nice. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tak it tak their their their their their their their their their their their the the Skiph. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their r r r ripipipipipipipipiphape. Riphapeck. Riphxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxie. th. th. th. thiii. th. th. thi. Oh, no, look, I'll... I was about to say this guy sounds nice. But I take it back. I'm gonna take it back. He's got a lot of a nurse and doctor-related bankies. Okay. A lot of coat. Oh, look, this person's walking along, get this, and looking down, but the ball is a goddam's coronavirus. It's a COVID, one single COVID.

Oh shit. There's another one that's a balloon but it's a COVID and there's a nurse with a syringe that's going to pop the balloon so maybe he's... I think he's pro-vax. Oh wait, no, there's someone who's being hypnotized by a magician using a mask instead of like a pocketwatch? This looks like boomer meme art you know like when your auntie is pressing on Facebook he's like pro-nurse but he's pro-anti-vax nurses that are doing tic-tongues. Oh yeah there's free speech being chiseled into a wall, but...

No, the hippies are chiseling away free speech. Huh. He just said whatever. I can say one thing. He really is the Scottish Bank City. It certainly is. Look how much discussion he's provoked and that means it's good art. We can we can agree though that like visually it is 1,000 percent.

Just a copy. It's just it's just Banksy, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's stencil art and it's bad which is the visual style of the incredibly rich artist Banksy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's done a bankie. That's Banky. Now here's the final story here. And this story does have a bit of a sad ending, I'm afraid to say, actually. It's not that the man has died. RIP, RIP to the Rebel Bear. I mean, Rebel Bear has been made into a beautiful rug. I'm so glad you all decided to choose that it would be the artist, not the terminally

ill man who died in this situation. Fuck. Ah, no, he's probably fine, maybe for a while. The headline here, also from the Kiderm residents have voiced their anger after a mural painted by a renowned graffiti, renowned-ish graffiti artist was to face. The mural, which is located in an underpass near the watermill pub, has now been, quote, blackened out a week after it was revealed. Reacting to the vandalism, Darryl Meekam told the shuttle, I just think it's such a shame when people to face art like that, I think it's appalling.

We knew it was going to happen. It made Kiddaminster glow for a week. It's spiteful, it's malicious, they haven't added to it, they've just blacked it out. They even put 88 on it. Itguards 24-7. Yeah, put it in a Perspex box. But again, interesting, isn't it, to see, like, when the anonymous Scottish bear, the rebel bear, like, does a piece, I think, but yeah. When he does a piece on a wall, it's a mural, and when somebody else put some paint on a wall, they're defacing

a piece of art. You are going on record here, Andrew. I mean pro-Nazi. Pro-Nazi. Graffiti, that's interesting. Hey, look, look, I can't put two numbers on a wall anymore. Oh, numbers are bad now. No, I was looking at another, it was a post on, a post on Reddit, somebody has posted, the Rebel Bears piece in Junction Street

has already been scrawled over a frowny face. And there's just like, you know, some random graffiti over this piece. But again, it's like, this guy's painted something on a wall, and someone else has painted something over the top. And everyone's like, ah, they've defaced it. Yeah, isn't that what you expect that some tains just going to write like, dais over the top of it? What do you mean graffiti artists are going to paint over other graffiti artists work? Like that's never happened before. You know what? I bet you like 50 bucks he is the one the one doing it. He is creating like a scarcity economy of his work so he can like up the value of the next one. Well, he's making this happen.

Well, what are the different color bear costume to do it? He's like, no, that's a completely different bear traffiati artist. Just to additionally piss me off though, he's done his piece on like a flat gray wall and then six feet away from it down on the bottom of the wall in like Oh no he's got his branding on there he's got like the rebel bear in like times near Roman nice little neat stencil down the bottom so he's I don't know man it like it it just seems to me like such a really, really calculated attempt to go, oh, I'm going to do the Banksy thing. I'm going to do these statement pieces of fucking twee social commentary.

And then everyone in the town will instantly declare them to be art that must be left alone. And then everyone will get mad when people don't leave it alone, because it's fucking paint on a wall. Like you're saying. It's not starting a conversation man, you know? That's what it's all about. I hate conversations.

I just love the idea of seeing a Bart Simpson Burt Simpson, like that's Banksy. Is that television icon Is that's Banksy. Like, that's a Banksy right there. Is that television icon? Bart Simpson? I've sent you all a link to the image here, but I'll describe it for you, the listener. So TV icon, Bart Simpson. He's painted in full color, pupils, different sizes, for reasons I don't fully understand. He's bending over to reveal his bare buttocks. Oh, okay. And then either side of him are sort of American-style riot police. Yeah, they're about to beat TV icon Bart Simpson to death. Which says something about our society.

Yeah, like we live in a society. Yeah. Oh, there's also, yeah, it's an 88 and a star of David that they've done there when they defaced it didn't notice that. Wow. That's interesting. That's even less symbolically coherent than the original artwork. Yeah. It's because it was the bare man and he was like how do I make it look like the people who deface this are bad? Yeah. The Nazis are maybe they're Jewish. Whatever you don't like, whatever you don't like, whatever you don't like, they're that. Whatever you hate the most, it's that. Yeah. Oh, so this is from the Reddit post where I'm looking at this news that one of his other pieces had been tagged over other people highest voted post on here, this kind of low effort tagging over other

people's art is super annoying. Why not spray shitty text on the blank wall on the other side of the cash machine instead? Fucking vandals, jealous they don't have the talent to do what they ruin. Yeah, damn vandals. And then the most downvoted post in reply to this. What's super strange in these comments is the Banksy copy, like the Banksy copycat plagiarism is referred to as art, while the tag is just some crappy writing. In my opinion, both are equally shite. And tagging over someone's piece is really part of the game when it comes to graffiti,

especially if you have a serious doubt about the tho. I think tho don't like one, why glorify the other? Massive down votes from everybody. Wow. I agree. I think that's so true. When you cut out of man's tongue, you only tell everyone that you fear what he has to say. Hmm. Hmm. But yes, like, it does not seem like that many of the people involved are saying, so the students just totally 1,000 percent ripping off Banksy, right, who also... Who also is toy? Like every single 13-year-old walking past that piece of art aren't going, oh my god, that guy's ripping off Banksy, we've got to

like tag over there, their stuff, like in respect for Banksy, like they're looking at it going, fuck this guy, I hate this. I'm like, oh my god. It's a good scam though, because like, what are you going to do if you're banksy? You're going to meet me in the streets? Are you going the stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing stealing the the the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. What the You're gonna meet me in the streets? This is some stealing your artwork? Yeah. What the guy should have done is sign it, Banksy.

This is his first sonar. I'm Banksy kin. Oh no! No! Take it back, put the words back in. Oh God. Hi everybody, it's me. It's Theo. Now I guarantee you I'm more afraid of recording this promo than you are of listening to it, so hear me out. If you haven't already, maybe check out our Patreon.

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right. It's time to sense as you have the fence, voices calling, you're falling. You're falling. You're falling. Haunting. This is a story from, I believe this is pronounced, Yorkshire Live, new adults-only X-rated mini-gulf club called Glory Holes, opening in Sheffield. England, curse you. They've done it again. England has done it again. Oh boy. You want to go dog-in

out the back of glory holes? They don't know what it means. That's the thing. It's probably just a complete accident. Knowing the British. It sounds like a place you'll have a lovely type playing golf. The holes are glorious. We'll call it glory hoss. Mini Golf Club. Only in Britain. Yeah, X-rated seems extreme from what I've seen. Oh, okay. We'll find out. They they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They they they th. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They th. They don't. They th. They don't. They th. They th. They don't. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They don't th. They don't th. They don't th. They're th. They're th. They're th. th. th. th. the the the the the tho the thooooooooo. They don't the the the the thoooo. They don't the the. They don't think it's... Yeah X-rated seems extreme from what I've seen, but...

Oh, okay. We'll find out. Explain it. An X-rated mini-gulf course is set to open in Sheffield this week. Glory Holes, which already has a venue in Nottingham, is strictly for players aged 18 and over only. The chinky course is opening in the city centre on Thursday. An exclusive pre-launch party will also be held on Wednesday, found in 43 High Street, the venue's website teases customers. What? The venue's website teases customers, oh, probably should be a comma there. Warning, no guts, no glory. What? If you don't fuck this golf course, you're not going to have a good time. Previous venues have been described by players as, quote, crazy g to visit for quote, crazy golf. Well, they should call it crazy golf. They should call it crazy golf.

Crazy holes. Crazy holes. The crazy holes. The poor staff that work there. The poor staff that work there. Oh no. We can say fuck here. Yes, you're allowed to be rude inside Glory Hulse, Jesus. The Christmas parties that would

be held there. Oh man. I'll tell you this right now, if I can't put a ball into like a big plaster, buts, anus. A-butt's an anus. Yeah, no, what I'm saying is I don't, like, don't just put a hole there and tell me it's an an anus. I want there to be like a big, a big plaster buck. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Phoebe gets it. With a butt hole and that's what I'm aiming for. got no fucking interest in glory holes at all. Uh,

uh... What you're saying is you want it to be only butt holes? Like, that's all but-butt-holes? No, just... Oh, you don't want any pussyholes at glory holes. I was going to say, I resent that I would so happily put into a big pussyhole. I would happily, I would, if maybe into a big pussyhole. Dick hole.

I would, if maybe the ramp is a tongue and it's going down a throat, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is that what glory holes is? Is it x-rated or isn't it? That's what I'm asking. Let me let them describe it to your friend.

Yes. This is from their website. Hold on, let you let them describe it to your friend. Yes. That's a like a cascading series of permissions that I'm not. As long as the other level is on board with hearing this. Glory Holes began in the heart of Nottingham's creative quarter, Hockley, gross as Nottingham's first adult-only mini-gulf club. Glory Holes took the city by storm, and now we're expanding our unique flavor of adult-only crazy golf to the rest of the country.

Glory Hole's golf takes crazy to a whole new level with raunchy adult themes and challenges to each hole. Can you focus and get your stroke right whilst horny animals go at it around you? It's a BCI only thing now? My final flight has been activated. I can't. Prepare for this. Will you defeat the goblin king in his own labyrinth? So they, are they just ripping off Jim Hanson here? Are they having like a... It is traculars. I don't know if it's licensed or not, but it is very much labrinth. Putting directly into Jareth's butt hole.

Will you trump the final hole? Now, hole there is spelled W-H-O-L-E, which is very confusing because you feel like... Capital T, Trump, that's right. And make golf great again. There's really only one way to find out. Now, the photos that I have looked at of... I was about to say, I'm on Instagram for GloryHolt Nottingham. Yeah, and what have you seen?

There's a Donald Trump hole. Yeah. What is adult stuff? They have to be 18 to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote tre on true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. tr be 18 to vote. I think there's like an adult room, but then there's also a bunch of other rooms that aren't like raunchy at all. There's like one... They don't seem raunchy. You just have to sign a consent form for actors to like sexually assault when you walk into the bar. It's just like Dracula's. Like just a bunch of like out of work actors in like stinky costumes. Yeah, just being weird. It's Dracula's but on one of the walls in one of the rooms

there is like a PVC kind of gimp suit type deal with a strap on attached to it. Oh, oh no. Oh God, I just thought I was clicking over to the next image in this slideshow but then it took me to a new story about a car accident. Oh, okay. That's not as fun. They do have some signs up though around the courses that say things like, put it in. Yeah, and balls deep. There's a sign on the wall that says, do you eat pussy? And then I don't know what you do the balls the balls the balls the balls the balls the balls the balls the balls the balls tho do you eat pussy? Jesus. And then I don't know what you do with that information. Like you're not hitting the balls into a pussy hole which is what I was really hoping. Yeah so well so now you're on board with putting into a pussy hole. Okay. Well when it was the idea you're pitching was

well with botholes. I'm just saying like this is just... who needs to be a. Off as Christmas parties. This is just... Who needs this? Who lost for this to happen? All I'm saying is that everyone's got a butt-hole and that's a natural place to start. Yeah. We start with something universal. Go from there. Because everyone's got a butt-hole, so you think but but-hulls first, okay. Yeah, but we're a butt-hole's first venue. What Andrew is saying is, Gloroughly sounds th- sounds like a ship without a captain putting his hand up. Without a strong artistic voice.

Oh, they've got raunchy Instagram posts that say like, who wants to get their tiger wood? Hmm? Who wants to? Like, it's tiger woods, but I think it's like a boner. Yeah, I don't really understand how that works in the context of that sentence. I'm not really sure. It's for adults. We can say whatever the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the their their artistic their artistic their artistic their artistic their autistic thistic thistic thiastic thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh thiastic. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. how that works in the context of that sentence. I'm not really sure. It's for adults. We can say whatever the hell we want at GloryHol. I'm looking at the gallery on their website. Gloryholes Nottingham. Co.

Check it out. Go there. Use the referral code, Bunta for 10% off. But there's like, they have a video of people playing and everything. A bunch of neon lights, you know, bar staff being paid to act like they're having fun. That kind of thing. And like it really, it really has that, that energy to me of a venue that will be closed in three to four months. You know the kind, like the axe throwing place like it's like George Costanza themed restaurant or whatever yeah you know. It's written for like sorry they came up with the idea

so that broadsheet would write about it and then they could be bankrupt four weeks later. It's like it turns out people don't want to go oh the example I was going to say is a bar that has apparently been going for a very long time. I think in Sydney, the one where one side of the bar is West German themed and the other is East German themed, they're like, really? Yeah, it's that. They're like this seems like a pretty easy way to to their way have the, I guess the thing that all these sorts of venues have in common to me is that they are, they're like very, very fixated on a specific theme and everything in there looks very new, like too new, you know, and that sort of says to me, you will be closed in three months. Oh, absolutely. To the residents of Sydney, maybe this isn't shocking or appalling to you because you, because, because, because you, because you, because you, because you, because you, they they, because, they, they, because, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're thing thi, thi, thi, thi, they're thing thi, they're thi, they're they're thi, they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the theeeeeeeean, that, thean, they're like they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they months. I'm just going to read something to hear.

Now, to the residents of Sydney, maybe this isn't shocking or appalling to you because you're so benumbed to everything. Established in 2009, Berlin Bar is a place where capitalist opulence confronts communist austerity, where classic cocktails mingle with modern creativity, where old-fashioned table service blends with a relaxed atmosphere, east or west, the capitalist side. The west will be your first stop. Here you have the choice between three areas, the booths have a capacity of blah blah blah and the Ich bin Inabilina section of up to ten people. Or the communist side. In the east, no extravagance. The room is dark and full of communist propaganda, blah blah. There's some tables and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta- relaxeds relaxeds relaxeds relaxed ta-st relaxed ta-st relaxed ta-st relaxed ta-st relaxed ta-sts relaxed the ta-staxeaxeaxexaxexaxexaxexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. the communist side, in the east, no extravagance. The room is dark and full of communist propaganda, blah blah blah, there's some tables and shit. What the fuck is this? It's actually in Melbourne.

I would like to apologize to them for shit. What is this? Is it a real? The fuck is this? It's been going for 12 years? Yes, it's in Melbourne, I think it's pronounced. Like in the city? In 16 Cors Lane? Does that mean anything to? Yeah, it's not a clue. It's off Little Burke Street.

Ridiculous. I don't know shit about Melbourne. That sounds bad. Right next door to like a Hiroshima themed fucking like bowling alley or what's that's so stupid. So... Just have a normal bar that's good. That's my idea for a business. Just sell beer.

Yes. So Glory Halls is run by Curious Venues. And you can go to their site, Curious Venues. to see all the other venues they run. Oh, are they crazy? There's one called the Black Pearl. Anyone think of any pop culture references? Is it a pirate-themed bar? Not from Pirates of the Caribbean. Docked in West Bridgeford, the Black Pearl

brings with it a bounty of rum and good fun. Oh! designed by the curious design company to capture the essence of bygone pirate era, The Black Pearl is as curious as the rest of our venues. Just making a place that sells rum and naming it after fucking Johnny Depp's pirate ship from a movie from like 2003 or whatever. I bet they have like cockatails. Yeah, yeah. They probably have pirates of the Caribbean quotes on their cocktail names.

Why is the rum always gone? Ha ha ha ha ha. And you'd laugh every time with your friends. It's like Johnny Depp said. The character, Johnny Depp, in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah. It's crazy. That movie did come out in 2003.

Yeah, I was 13 years old, seeing that at the mall in Hornsby. And I was like, what's this all about? Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, pretty spooky. What was he doing in there? Oh God. This movie, oh sorry, this bar really looks like just a front. Like looking at the website is like the most obliterated JPEGs you've ever seen in your life with like

a logo designed very obviously in Canva. And if you go through all of their venues, like their websites all look exactly the same as well Like do these places actually exist? Maybe. No. Who's gonna go and find out? Admittedly, one of their venues is called drum and basement and it's like a basement bar. That's not a bad name. That's an all right pun. That's okay. You gotta be nice sometimes. That's not a bad name. I'll give them that. That's an all right pun. That's okay.

You gotta be nice sometimes. That very currently popular genre. Drum and bass. Drum and May. Oh man, fucking we had a for the 10th birthday for the bar we had like a closed doors party for like just a bunch of our regulars and stuff and then because you know it was a relaxed atmosphere we're letting people do whatever and then one person decided to decide, oh actually... Go ahead, name them. Inducing someone right now? Yeah, well, no, they don't listen to this podcast, but Tilly, Tilly, Joe went absolutely fucking ham on drum and bass at an extreme volume for an extreme length of time.

I've never seen that man act like that before. That was the most drummed bass I have heard in my life. I'm not even going to add a caveat to that. But I was vibing on it. It's a great time actually. Check out the musical genre. Not for me. You don't like rhythm sections generally. Fuck off out of here. Don't like when a bass has been drummined. Hmm. Yep. Yeah. Are you going somewhere? You're going to somewhere? You can't look in your eyes.

It's like when you can see a baby that's like shitting and it's napping. Like they're just like look real weird, like they're real focusing. That's what Andrew looks like when he's wearing di-contained. No, look sometimes I honestly forget I'm supposed to be coming up with a segue to the next segment because God knows no one else is doing it around here. I don't know how you guys do it on episodes that I'm not on what happens? Oh it like it always goes so well. Oh okay. Yes, perfectly. It's not like someone who's never been in a manual before shifting gears.

Phrr. Accidentally reversing into a car behind me somehow. Yeah. Anyway, like Phoebe was saying, what the fuck is up with all those venues? Do they even exist? Seems like some sort of front or perhaps a scam. Oh, he's good. It might be the the time the time the time the the the the the the the the the the th th th. It's th. It's th th th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like. It's like. It's like th. It's like th. It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th, he's good. Might be time to check in with the latest in scams on Scamwatch. What do you say that? What?

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No one knows what to think of that. Just silence. Yeah, that's completely, completely forgotten. I'm making an MP3 at some point, putting in the... So good podcasting. No, Andrew, let me take you through this. Oh. Take me away. This is from, uh, my bio win.

It's gonna slam you in here cold. Bio-ling. I love my bio-wins. This is, that's, yeah, I'm gonna throw you right in the deep end here. Bio-Win's proprietary neurohaptic technology is the non-invasive, drug-free path to achieving all your health and wellness goals. Awesome. All of them. Based on decades of research in neurohaptic science, our products are proven to decrease the perception of pain and improve overall function. Our neurosocks and

neuropatches are equipped with a special tactile pattern designed to stimulate neuroreceptors on your body and communicate with your central nervous system. Hey, can I pull you up for a second there? I'd rather you didn't but if you feel you must yes. Just imagining the wear in a sales meeting you just say neuro socks? We'll circle back to that if we can just put a pin in that and we'll offline that discussion and we'll circle back to it. Okay. The result is instantly improved balance mobility strength energy levels, pain management, and more.

In short, it keeps you feeling your best so you can achieve more every day. God, I love feeling my best. It sounds good. I'm feeling good about this. It's actually quite a simple process how this works. I'll outline you, I'll take you through the three-step process of how this works. Step one, trigger response. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. theeeeeea. to, toeeeea. toeea. toeea. thi. thi. thi. the thi. through the three-step process of how this works. Step one, trigger response. So like when someone comes around a corner and says, boo, to me. Is that?

Yeah, all right. That would constitute the words that I just said, yeah. Okay. Uh, step two, affect the body. Ah, so that's like when I piss in my pants when someone comes around a corner and says, boo! I feel like you're viewing this through a very specific lens. You know, we can only speak from our own personal experiences. Something you want to tell us about it? Step three, feel the difference.

Oh, you can really feel the difference when that happens, I'm telling you. When you've pissed yourself, yeah. Now that is kind of itchy, kind of itchy. That's that's the, that's that's that's that's that's the, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. That's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the the the the the the the the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. I's that's thi. I thi. I thi... Kind of itchy. That's the... That's the entire three-step process. I will give it to you in slightly more detail, the long-form version of that. Step one. Oh, I don't need to hear any more detail. I'm getting out my credit cards. I'm so long, I'm trying to figure out how to mortgage my house again. Shut up and take my money back.

Oh my god, I've done. We love you, Alex. Why, moa? Step one, contact with the encrypted patent to the skin area triggers a neuro response that sends information from the receptors to your brain stem. From socks? Well, no one said socks so far except for the one time that I said socks. So there's an encrypted pattern in my Neuro socks. I haven't brought up Neuro socks. Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got to ask Phoebe a question.

Phoeby, when you are wearing socks, are they generally in contact with your skin? Yes. Oh, okay. So when my wife is wearing her Phoebe Paradise Durry socks, as she does, they are in contact with her skin. The perfect delivery system to have her wellness modified. Oh you could be putting neuro patents in your fucking sock. You'd never know. Maybe Paradise X neuro patches. Ex bio with. Step two. After processing that information, the central nervous system distributes commands to your peripheral nervous system affecting various functions in your body from pain regulation to motor control and balance.

And then step three the effect is instant ranging for improved balance mobility and pain management to better energy levels maintaining optimal neurology assist your body to achieve and maintain optimal health. Now let me let me tell you this right now. That sounds so real to me. Yeah, yeah. Well you can't. You couldn't put it on a website if it was fake obviously. Why would they? Why would they? They have no reason to lie other than making a lot of money. So they sell two types of products for between $45 and $64, depending on whether you get like the rugged outdoor ones or the sort of house ones.

They sell neuro socks, which promised to deliver more energy and strength, better management, better mobility and function, better stability and balance, better performance, and of course enhanced enhanced neurofunction. Now, babe, have you seen my brain socks? Because these are my regular socks and I feel like fucking shit. My neurofunction is fucking terrible today. Did you put this on the spin cycle, babe? Because I'm so out of whack right now.

You've really just like rearranged all of the neurons in this. You've got the wrong neuroglyphs on my socks now because they were washed too hard and now they're actually making me really tired. Babe, do you want me to put on my socks from Target and drop 20 IQ points before this big meeting? Is that what you want, babe? Now, you can't wear socks all the time, you know, bare foot is legal. That's true. That's what I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that thathea thatue. thate the thathea the the the thathea' their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoom. thoom. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thooooooooooooooooooooo. thea. thea That's true. Here's what I like to do. I get into bed with my socks on, right? Covers on.

Get comfy, then I peel my socks off. Holy fuck. Kick them out the side of the bed. How good does that feel? It feels so great. Don't like the part where my wife picks these in the basket. Wow, it seems like there's a way you could... Yeah, I could, she's just... How could we possibly streamline this process?

She's out of bed before, so the other night, I took them off, I took them off under the covers and then, just like, Kareem Abdul Jabah 3 pointed both of them in turn into the laundry basket and I said that's for you baby. You could put a piece of fishing line going from the end of the socks that you could hold in your hands and then you pull off the socks and then you pull them up to where you are and then you just put them on your bed. Are you trying to t of shoot to get in there. Well, once you have taken your socks off,

and you note that the runes for your brain and no longer imprinting you via your feet, they have another alternative for you. For the low, low price of 99 big ones, you can get a 15 pack of disposable 48-hour patches that quote, engage the homeostatic regulation of energy metabolism in order to metabolize at a faster rate to allegedly give you an energy boost throughout the day. That wouldn't, I'm no scientist. But if I'm metabolizing my energy faster, that sounds like I will have less energy. Hmm. Well, Lucy, that's a really good point you brought up. Shut

up. Fuck. It's all falling apart now. Me, me and wife of the show and my wife, Elna have been watching, we've been doing our first ever watch through of the Sopranos. And I was just saying to her the other night that like, the guys in the Sopranos, like the, when they're having a sit down between like the Capos and the bosses and stuff, they have that same deal that like American cops have, where they massively overcomplicate everything. they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thoe. thoe. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. their. their. the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same. I. I. I. I. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. theauuuolea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the overcomplicate everything they're saying. They always use a more complicated word when they know a simpler one and that's what I'm getting from this. Patches engage the homeostatic

regulation of energy metabolism in order to metabolize energy at a faster rate. Yeah, it's also sounds like the stuff that like the crazy guy the bus stop yells at you when you're walking past a little bit too close. It's the socks. If you access the socks it will redistribute all of the neurons in your body and actually like really makes you a lot smarter, lots more streamlined. Yeah, yeah man totally. I respect this because it's so dumb like it's not they haven't put much effort into this game. the game. th the scheme. th. the scheme. the scheme. th. the sc sc sc. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to to to to to to to to th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's........................................... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's that. It's that. It's that. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's. It's th. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like, oh yeah man, totally. I respect this because it's so dumb. Like it's not, they haven't put much effort into this scam. This is, um, this is like, uh, I mean jokes on them, I'm gonna be squeezing all the stuff out of the patches and free basing it in a car park.

Yeah, well, there's no stuff in the patches. The patches don't have anything at the... Oh it's just a it's just a QR code. It's like a QR code for your brain. Yeah. Yeah you guys obviously because you're a bunch of fucking wet blankets are being very skeptical about this and the promise of NHTs whatever the fuck they called. I'm gonna if you guys look in the document Phoebe I've just sent you a little image there here's a little something that I think should change your mind. Now could someone... Fibu- that I think should change your mind. Fuck.

Now, could someone, Phoebe, would you like to describe what you've got there? Oh. Yeah. Okay. This is an image, like a CT scan of the human brain. Two images, one is our brains, and it's all red and angry and dumb, I assume. Regular dog shit brains.

Just really low value, shitty smooth brain. And then there's an arrow pointing to the next brain on the right saying BioWin NHT. And that brain, our brains, our brains on our brains. This is our brains. This is the thi. This is our brains. This. the our brains. Our the our brains. Our the our brains. Our the the the the th. Our th. Our th. Our th. Our th. Our th. Our th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Our th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is this. This is this is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. This is this. this. this. this. this. this.'s an arrow pointing to the next brain on the right saying bio-win NHT and that brain our brains on bio-win-NHT is green Elevated now as a lifelong student of various traffic lights and signals. I understand that that's good The green means go yeah, yeah, and I like I want my brain to be going at almost all times and it's all green. And it's all good. Green means go, yeah. Yeah. And I want my brain to be going at almost all times. And it's all green, meaning I feel like you'd have like a smooth brain, which is what I'd like to have. Yeah.

Now, okay, obviously, maybe we're not set up to interpret this image from a scientific background because none of us are scientists, you know, we're all many things, but we're not.. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have thi- I have thi- I have that that thi- I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that. And that that that that that that that that that that that that th- I th- I th- I th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have th- I have thi- I have thi-I have throwne. I have thi. I have thi. I have thi. I have that thi. I that's all thi. I that that thi. I scientific background because none of us are scientists. You know, we're all many things but we're not. I have red brain. Yeah, I have red brain as well. Actually, think about that for something I'm going to tell you in about five minutes. But here's what an actual expert is saying about. This is from their website. This is an endorsement from Dr. W. Lee Cowden, MD, comma, MDH. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. This is an endorsement from Dr. W. Lee Cowden, MD comma, MDH. I don't know if that means he got honors with his medical degree or something. I didn't really look into it. But he says, when I first experienced Bywin's neurosocks,

I was amazed at how much they immediately improved my EEG brainwave pattern and how much better energy and mental clarity I felt while wearing them. Then I saw similar results on my colleagues. So you're just like, hey guys, put these socks on and let me strap these electrodes to your head. Like you, damn, you look energetic Steve. You look good right now. Unrelated, we've also started eating paint chips, but that's just like a completely separate experiment. That was our control. We're all on the same diet and it is paint chips, but that's just like a completely separate experiment. That was our control. We're all on the same diet and it is their paint chips.

Now I this I know it sounds too good to be true. You put on a pair of socks. You get it. Wrong. I already believe it. It sounds so good and true. It sounds both good and true. Some things are good and true. You know. It gets even better. Banksies, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist they exist. It they exist. It they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. the the the the thi the the thi the thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they they. Some things are good and true, you know. Now, it gets even better. Banksies, for example, they exist and they're good. So they must be truly Banksy's works. Not a Scottish guy that rips off his art style and time. Not a Scottish bear. No.

So they offer another product for 99 bucks, another 15 pack of patches patches but this patch specifically will quote give your immune system that little extra by quote enhancing the communication loop between the brain stem vagus nerve thymus and spleen leading to a quote optimized immune system and this product is of course called the Vaxhaptic patch that is so real. I mean you can't argue with it. Don't get the vaccine buy these QR code patches for your inner arm. For $99. I guess that's a good price. I mean complete neuro-health. So shall we grade, should we grade this scam on our regular scam grading system? I sorry I have one more thing to tell you before we grade the scam. I just want

to read you just the headline and then two sentences from a story here from rugby.com that are you. Yep premium news source. Yeah. Queensland Rugby Union adds bioWin as its newest commercial partner. Oh my God! No way! No! The Queensland Rugby Union today announced wearable Neurotech specialist BioWin as its latest commercial partner in a two-year deal.

As part of the partnership, the BioWin brand will feature on the back of the St George Queensland Red's jersey below the player number over the next two seasons. That's so good. That's how you're fucking-law. So it's actually Queensland Red's brain, I believe, was the phenomenon you were describing. that's actually Queensland Reds, I believe was the phenomenon you're describing. Holy shit. that's incredible. thirty- Oh, that. th. the the their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the player, the the the player. the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the. Oh my goodness. And they're testimonials. They have ads of Reds players being like, this QR code on my forearm has given me super brain powers for me to play at my best.

That's so good. That makes so much sense. It does. Yeah, this is the target market, rich Himbos. Rich Queensland himbos. Yeah, very much, like, this is the most Queensland thing I've ever heard. The only thing more obvious would be if it was like Queensland police officers, which now they will. Official sponsor of Queensland Police Service. So, for any listeners and possibly for Phoebe, who are not familiar

with how we grade scans around here, we have, we have three grade scams around here. We have three, we have three different sliders that we move up and down. Three axes on the cube of scam. Three axes on the cube of scam. Uh, so one of which is the, like, um, the the chutzpah that you need. The moxie, if you will. The moxy, basically like, basically, you know, the more sort of outlandish and bullshit it is, the better in terms of like the bravery that it requires to stand and lie to somebody's face

about what you are giving them when you sell them these magic beans, right? So what do you think about this one from that point of you, you, you, you, you, to you, to you, th th th th thi thi that point thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like that point of you, like that point of you that point of you that point of you, like that point of you that point of you that thi, like, like, like, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like to to to to to to to to to to to to thi.. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that right? So what do you what do you think about this one from that point of view, Phoebe? I think it's pretty ballsy like because they haven't even pretended to put anything in it. So there's a lot of stuff out there that you can sell and you're like, oh, this is like a general wellness tool. Like wellness is the thing that we're fixing or like we're making you smarter or we're, you know, activating your brain. But like normally they at least pretend to have something functioning on the inside of it. They're like, oh, we use the power of crushed vitamin C tablets or like, you know, there's a wire that doesn't connect to anything or like whatever, but this is literally just like a band-aid with nothing.

It's balsy because they're just basic. They're just like, oh, I don't need to explain to you how it works. It's just you put on the socks and your neurons feel good. We hired a doctor to say that that this this this this this this this th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. But, th. But, th. But, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, or, th, th, th, th, or, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is is, th is like, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, thi, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, thi, this works. Nobody knows that he's a doctor of music, like he's got a doctorate in music education. They're always chiropran. And that's it. We don't need to sell the con any more than that. Like they've done their job. I think it's super ballsy. Especially with the knowledge that like they're selling it to rugby league playing. Yeah, they've got a rugby sponsorship. I think it really makes it. That's fantastic. As far as pre-existing scams go, I would absolutely liken this one to the the like bracelets that people used to wear with the magnets on them. That's what I was thinking, the magnetic bracelets. Do they actually have some science in them though? Like more than those? No, nothing at all. Wow. They really sold those. They were like, they're like. they're. they're. their. their. their. they're. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. They're like. No. They're like. No. They're like. They're like. They're like. They're like. They're like. They're like. They're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the like, they really sold those. They were like in the chemists and stuff. I could strap an extremely powerful magnet onto you and nothing would happen. Except maybe some objects would fly out.

They really sold those. Yeah, well, that's everywhere. Yeah, you had like, fucking Tiger Woods wearing them and shit, you know. And I'm sure from Tiger Woods's perspective, they were like, they were like, thii. thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi. And from from from from from from from from from from from their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, to, they thi. thi. to, they thi. they thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.that you can use to bang more sex workers with. And he was like, great. But he wore them and he got his picture taken and everything. What is the next axis? We've got the successfulness, yes.

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Yeah, because they've mailed them. Two-year sponsorship to you? Ten out of ten. Sometimes you have a really, a really balsy wild-a-scam and no one really goes for it. Sometimes you have a boring milktoast scam that you manage to net a lot of people with. Sometimes you have something fucking stupid like a stick on QR code and you get Rugby Union Australia to sign up as a sponsor. It's amazing. It's the real rub of it would not be like the team of rugby.

It's like some like CEO. It's the Queensland Rugby Union CEO for sure. Yeah, that's it. It's the guy that's been, yeah, they've been getting into too many like, you know, threads and just, I don't know, like, it's always the CEOs with like a completely empty head that really buy into this stuff. Is it a money laundering thing? Like, is this? Oh, that would make sense, right? I think it's a regular old scam, personally, because like the things that you produce to sell to people are of effectively no value in and of themselves.

You're like making stickers, you're selling people a 15 pack of stickers for 100 bucks. I assume, I assume US dollars, but I might be wrong about that. I believe it's Australian, I think, actually. And the final slider on the cube of scam is, how victimy was the scam? Were we scamming like old, non-English as a first language, pensioners out of their savings? Well, or were we scamming the shittiest, most deserving people in the country?

Now luckily, maybe you're not a big sports head, or you're not familiar with the Australian sporting codes. But Queensland Reds are a super rugby team. They are rugby union, which is the sport played by private school kids so fuck them. Yeah, fuck them and anyone who's buying this you know I mean come on yeah you know you use you quite simply have more money than you know what to do with that's right more money than sense they're saying Andrew you know this one yeah I have I have like cents with a C yeah yeah you like it. You know this one? Yeah, I have. Wait, like Sense with a C? Yeah.

You like it? You can use that one. I was reading a thing the other day about a a product called Sweet Sweat Stick. Right? Okay. And it's this, it's this thing. It's basically like a giant deodorant stick and you rub it all over your body. And the idea is that it like I guess it seals up all of your paws and makes you sweat more or something. But it's another one of these things where it's like, hey, oh, this will totally give you a better workout. Here we go, sweet sweat is designed to create a thermogenic effect on the applied areas. So it might be a little bit like a deep heat kind of thing as well. You trap in the sweat in your body. It increases the circuit.

It increases the circulation of exercising muscles allowing you to maximize your workouts. It also accelerates warm up and recovery time. This means exercising will be easier and quicker while reducing the risk of eggs, cramps and muscle pools. And all the pictures are just like very, very cut, influencer ladies rubbing it on their six-pack abs. Oh, okay. And it costs you like 50 bucks forpack abs. Oh, okay. Sick. Cool.

Now we're talking. And it costs you like 50 bucks for a stick of it, you know? Right. And if you're buying one of these, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, that's a you problem. Yeah, you spend all of your time on Instagram and you have enough disposable income to spend $50 for a tube of shit to just grease yourself up with like a piggy before you work out. That's fine, lose your money.

Who can't? Whenever I see those products, it reminds me of when a chocolate company will release a new kind of chocolate where they're like, oh, it's like Doritos flavored or it's like a, you know, whatever. And it's because the production line has ended for one thing and started for another and they've they, they, and they, they, they, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, tho, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin one thing and started for another and they've got this like mix of chocolate That they need to like sell or whatever, right? I've swept all the Dorito crumbs off the factory floor Yeah, bad example, but like you know one old chocolate and one new chocolate and whenever I see a product like that I'm like, there's a deodorant company out there somewhere that fucked up on a production line

made a deodorant that didn't work and they're like okay we've got like a million of these things how can we like reverse engineer a way to sell this into something that will be useful and profitable so it's not just like being thrown in the bin. And wellness like wellness is just the thing it works. Or you like yeah because the bin. And wellness, like wellness is just the thing. It works. Or you're like, yeah, because there's that element of like, if you were going to claim that you had some sort of magical spray that had a crazy chemical effect on your body,

you would actually kind of want it to smell bad? Because then people would be like, oh, it's chemicals. It's working. Yeah. So if you just just just just just just just you you you you you you just just just th you just just th you just just just th you just just th you just made like Lynx fucking limestone and everyone was like, why would you want to smell like that? This smells awful. Oh, no actually it's for making your muscles twice as strong. That's why it smells rank. You're like, fuck, this is rank. My muscles are twice as strong. Yeah. They're like, yeah, it's pheromones. That's why it smells so bad.

It's for my smells so bad. Coming up. Coming up with taglines. The worse it stinks, the better it works. Yeah. And they've been dining out on that idea for like that. Yeah. Oh boy, well that is about all we have time for this week. Phoebe, where can people hear and see more of you? Ah, thank you so much for having me. They can hear more from me on my podcast. Don't worry,

it's not just you, my most recent episode I had Darling Ben on, which was so much fun. I know that guy. Yeah, yeah. That's true. I know him. I know him. And you can also just find me through Instagram at Phoebe Dot Paradise for buying clothes and art and all that random fun stuff. Wonderful. Folks, I would absolutely recommend doing that, buying a shirt, buy yourself some socks. Get some stickers or a badge or maybe listen to a podcast. There's all kinds of things that you can do with Phoebe. Thanks, guys. If you're in Brisbane, go to Netheretetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetetet. tha tha. tha. tha. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. th. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. th. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. th. th. F. F. podcast, there's all kinds of things that you can do with Phoebe. Thanks, guys.

If you're in Brisbane, go to Netherworld and check out the art show that Phoebe's just put together with, I don't think he counts as a friend of the show, because I don't think he would ever have listened to it in his entire life, but Sam, for their feature presentation, presentation it is a bunch of extremely exciting Queensland artists doing takes on movie posters using the unique Australian Daybill format and all yeah it's all fucking fantastic we're doing some movies for it tomorrow night as well but this probably won't be out in time for that to affect you in any way but if it is but it's right all month come along yeah go to the art show definitely yeah go check that out.

The other world. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Phoebe. Thanks, guys. I had so much fun. And thank you everybody for listening. And we will catch you all next time. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. the