Boonta Vista - EPISODE 267: One to Two Inches of Disappointment (Feat. Ruby Innes)

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

The wonderful Ruby Innes is back to talk to Lucy and Andrew about the world of Fleshlight reviews, a man with too many or not enough fish tanks, and an update on Australia's thriving Abuse Diner industry.

Welcome to Bente Vista episode 267. My name is Andrew and I'm here at Pax Australia. I'm just wrapping up my speech about how all games should have the sliders from Dead or Alive that let you adjust bust size and jiggliness and that this includes survival horror games like Silent Hill and also walking simulators like Firewatch. Up next is Lucy Valentine, ready to give her talk on how all video games are evil,

but if you have to make one, it should have anime characters, but it should also feature Steampunk Goofy, and there should always be sliders from Dead or Alive that let you adjust Goofy's bust size and jigglyness. Hello, Lucy. Everything that you have just said is true of me. I agree with all of that. Dead or Alive had like next level. Like it was softcore pornography. Yeah, they weren't fucking around. They were bouncy, you know.

They were cranking it right up. They had mechanics, you know, they were jumping up and down. And I want to see that on Goofy. I think that's fair. I think if you're going to put all the effort into the physics engine, should you be confined to having it just be kind of modest? You know? Absolutely not. No. I don't think so. And finally, we're joined by the one and only Ruby Innes, who seems to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be preparing to be to be preparing to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their? Wea. their. their their their the the the th. th. the the. the. the. the the. the. the the their. their. their. the one and only Ruby Innes, who seems to be preparing to release 300 feral rats from a cage just off stage. Hello, Ruby. You bet I am.

They're all starving. Oh, ha! Peace up, everyone. Oh, woo. It's funny in fun of me to do, and I love doing it and it feels good. Oh boy. Also, I'm not the one and only Ruby Ennis. There is an old lady with a with a cat as her profile picture, and another lady that lives,

I think in Sydney, if not in Australia, also called Ruby Ennis. And I know this because years ago I added her on Facebook just to be like ha ha same name. Same name much. Crazy how same name. What she say? Did she like that? She was like damn that's crazy and then we have like a little chat and I haven't talked to her since. Okay. It's actually more more Andrew Laws than I thought. There's Andrew Laws than I thought. There's Andrew Law Scottish artist, Andrew Law Hong Kong artist, Andrew Law American composer and preacher and of course the British Prime Minister from 1922 Andrew Bona law.

Pardon? Spelled that way? B-O-N-A-R. Bonar. Bonar. Mr. Bonalor. And those are all you, all of those men. Yeah, I don't know, maybe past lives. The past lives was just anyone with your name previously. You know?

Yeah. Speaking of Bona law. Yeah. I found myself the other day looking at, um, you know, when you, the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to th you'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to bon bon bon, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bono, bonner, bonner, bonner, bonner, bon, bon, bon, bon, bon, bon, bon, b. Bona, b. Bona, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. B, the, the l. B, the-s, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho-a law law law law law law law law law law law law, bon law law, bon law law, bon lawe-a law, yeah. I found myself the other day looking at you know when you start looking at a subreddit and you immediately go, oh no, oh no, like our dear friend Tom Walker and the self-suck subreddit where he learned a lot more than he needed to know about guys trying to do the old self-suck. So I managed to find the fleshlight subredddit. You're just browsing. You're just like having a look or just flipping through. Sometimes you're like, there's got to be something interesting, you're right? And the first thing that caught my eye was somebody saying, um, hey, there was a request to share

collections, so here is mine. Uh, and he's got a, a photo of, I think, 30 something, flashlights. Wow, are they all that different? I'm fairly certain that was your post, Andrew Bono. That's a mirror. That's more of an investment, you know. It's not a collection you can show off, like your friends come over and check out the fucking flashlight cabinet. Yeah, why do you need more than one? Maybe two at a maximum?

Maybe two, yeah. I'm gonna get into that. This dude's got the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the mirror, the mirror, the the mirror, the that's a mirror, the mirror, that's a mirror, that's that's that's that'stwo at a maximum? Maybe two, yeah. I'm gonna get into that. This dude's got the, he's got the ones that are pussies. He's got the ones that are pussies of various races. He's got butt holes. Okay. He's got one, which is a butthole with some little nuts on it.

It looks like the fleshlight has truck nuts. Mm-hmm. There's ones that are like alien kind of covered. Like ones that look like they'd go on an avatar lady, you know? Like bad dragon type shit. Yeah, yeah. So I guess, I mean, I posted a screenshot of this on Twitter. Judging by some people's reactions they have not heard of, like, bad dragon brand, dildos or anything, you know?

See, I'm always surprised to find out people don't know what bad dragon is, and then I have a long hard thick about it. I'm like, actually, that's normal. Should I know what they are? I love that. I love when someone doesn't know about something like at work and a colleague will be like what's a furry and you're like my mom asked me what a furry was not too long ago. That was a fun conversation to have. How far did it go? I was really academic about it you know I was really professional about it and I didn't go silly mode I went you know I was like mom there. You know I was really really professional about it. I was like, um people who, go silly mode. I went, you know, I was like,

mom, they're people who like to identify with and sometimes dress as anthropomorphic animals, so they may look like wolves and cats and lizards, but they kind of stand like a human would and they have human characteristics and it's not always sexual but it can be. I'd love to see the stats on that like how many people it's a sexual thing for. Oh totally. I love to see the breakdown, you know? Is it yiffers? That what they call? They're yiffing, yeah. Is that people who are furries who have sex in furry mode? Yeah, well they don't have sex they yiff, yeah.

Sorry. They're yiff. Apologies. Which is like when you're having sex with a dog. To the furry camera. Yeah. Oh, damn. So like, yeah, some people's reactions to this large collection of fleshlights were, were like, hey, why's that one green? I was like, you innocent, summer's child, you know? And some of them, like a lot of people, in what I thought was a pretty reasonable,

assessment, sort of said, like, exactly what you guys said, said why did do you have so many surely surely they can't be that different well now I'm coming around because you need pussy butthole and alien well I'm saying three at a max now I'm here to let you know it really goes so much further than that so so I started started diving into it a bit more and there's there's like terminology that they're they-thar-like that they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the they. they. they. they. they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they I started diving into it a bit more and there's like terminology that they use, right? So the acronym for fleshlight being FL. So they refer to to fucking their fleshlight as flying FL or a flight. Oh my God. First couple of flights with this one, they would say.

One of the worst things I've ever heard, thanks. Oh, it's going to get so much worse. It's not good. I don't like to hear it. I don't like to know it. Also, isn't there a recording software called FL Studio? Yes, but that stands for Fruity Loops. And then I saw multiple dudes on there referring to starting to buy a lot of fleshlights as flesh crack.

So dudes who were like, oh, I thought I was being crazy buying one, and here I am buying my 20th. The flesh crack is real, bro. Happens. Always happen. Shop till you drop, you know? Do they use all of them, do you think? Well, you know, fishing around a bit.

I see this post from User Communication Strict seven days ago. Is there that much difference between the fleshlights? Thank you. Asking the questions we're all asking. It's what we all wanted to know. Big cues. I've seen several posts in where you guys share your fleshlights and some of you have a big amount of them. Is there really that much difference between them one to another for having so many of them? And we got a few different replies here. We've got a philosophical reply here for Ruffie 736 who says, is there that much difference between ice creams?

Yes and no. Core aspects of the experience are the same. You don't have to care about the differences. Some people want to change it up. Some people always get chocolate. Specific, very specific there. Yeah, and yet I don't, I think it's actually just wrong in many ways because you know you can't, you can't taste through your

I don't have a penis so I'm I'm not sure but from what I know of you know understanding of penises my understanding of penises is you can not taste through them so you can feel this is true, but like, how different is the inside of each fleshlight and how obvious is it to the, you know, the common penis, that there is a difference in feel? I'm so glad you asked. Uh, in feel. I'm so glad you asked. The porn 4815 replies, yes absolutely. They all

have different textures that feel different on the shaft. Some are so loose where unless you're a forearm you're not going to feel much and some are so tight they hurt and everything in between. Why would you want either of those extremes though? I feel like you're not using those ones. Could I get one that really hurts my dick, please? Even different orifices feel different. But entrances are about as tight as a real AS, where a lady one feels like sliding into a girl who's getting it regularly.

I'm gonna say that this guy's probably not having sex with a lot of human women. Yeah, I'm getting the vibe that he's like I either want my dick in a vice grip or I want to throw it into a sewer. And nothing in between that. He says, I'm assuming it's a he. He says, believe me, I wouldn't own 20 fleshlights if they all felt the same and they wouldn't offer over a hundred sleeves. I believe him. Yeah, he's obviously getting something out of these. The fucked up part with this to me, right, is that like there's two things that started becoming clear to me as I was reading more of these posts, right? And one of which is a lot of these guys, like you said Ruby, I'm not seeing a lot of these guys having a lot of sex

if they are, A, talking about their gigantic collection of sex toys. I think Lucy said that. Sorry, sorry. Wow. What do all women sound the same to you? Yes, thank you for being understanding. You're exposed. Wow. Wow. This is why we don't have two women on the show, you know? It's kind of differentiate between the hysterical. You can always tell the difference between men's voices. And one woman, yeah. Especially when there's three to four of them.

Well, if it's any consolation, none of the listeners can tell the difference between any of the men's voices on the show. It's very strange. It's perplexing to me. I think we all sound quite different. Hmm. Yeah, I've always thought that you all sound like different muppets in my head. Yes, thank you. You're so welcome. So this dude has a lot of fleshlights, but also, so you get the combination of owning a lot of them, but also guys talking about it in that way where they think that like the amount of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex of sex sex sex sex the sex the sex the sex of sex the sex the sex the sex the sex the sex the sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex. the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi's thiol-a-a thiol-a thiol-s, thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I the. I thi way where they think that like the amount of sex that a woman is having is like fundamentally changing the constitution of her vagina. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah it's affecting her molecular structure. It's it's not how genitals work. Everybody, come on. And we have

another reply here from DJ Ravix who says, you should take a look at flesh assist.com. And I would recommend anybody listening, just pull up that website right now. There is a complete list of all textures, including reviews and comparison tools. You might be surprised by how much difference there actually seems to be between them. So if you do look at flesh assist.com you can see the side-on diagrams of like all of

the textures inside the tubes. It's quite a comprehensive website actually. It really is. And everybody who goes on there and uses it can put in like they can review individual fleshlights against all these different criteria, right? Intensity, tightness, suction effect, realism, variation. What's a flesh jack? What is a flesh jack?

It's like a little handheld guy? Maybe it moves. So there's all these different metrics, basically. At this point, it basically seems like these dudes have just invented like being an audio file, but for your penis. Yeah, but for flashlights. Yeah. And so these dudes are out here posting reviews of their experiences with individual fleshlights and they compare it to their many other fleshlights.

So here's a guy reviewing the Tanya Tate Royal. And they all start like this one starts, which is, for context, I am 5.5 inches long with a 5 inch girth. So they all have to give you exactly how big their penis is in all their measurements. Oh, that's good. It's like when you're buying clothes and it's like the model's wearing a size eight. Exactly. Exactly. So they're helping you out with that. He says, I picked up three sleeves during the Memorial Day sale.

Memorial Day Fleshlight Sale. Honoring our fallen soldiers. And the Tannutate Royal was the mystery sleeve I received. Since the sale I have used this sleeve approximately six times. Funnily enough, Tannutate was on my radar when considering my first purchase, but the sleeve went out of production before I committed. I ultimately went with the Madison Ivy Beyond for my first purchase due to the remarkable similarities. You will see me use that sleeve as a point of reference throughout this entire review. Now, I was thinking at the start of this, what do you mean this entire review? How detailed are you going?

Can you put that bad boy through word count? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, at a point I'm like, how much is there to sticking your dick in a rubber tube and fucking it you know and apparently there's a lot more to it than I thought much like the the guys out there who are you know getting gold-plated hdeme cables and putting putting crystals in the amps and stuff like that. This is exactly as perverted as that to me. That is a 623 word review of the tons pocket pussy.

So, he says, let's break it down section by section. Please. Entrance. The lips part, slightly more than average, and the hole is a tad larger than some of my other lady sleeves. As a result, there's a bit of teasing fun to be had here. It doesn't hold a candle to Madison Ivies beyond, but it's still a nice feature. At five inches, my girth is pretty average, but I do appreciate a bit of extra wiggle room.

Zero inches to 1.5 inches. He is reviewing individual segments of the tube. Zero inches to 1.5 inches. Yes, fleshlight figured out how to make an entrance without wasted space. I have seen and owned too many sleeves with dead space or boring textures in the first half inch. I know that might not seem like a lot of space but at 5.5 inches that's 11% of what I'm working with. He's like mad about the wasted space like oh there's no texture in here. I got the first bit

of my dick in and nothing crazy is happening yet. Oh what's even better is that they put my favorite type of texture here. These bumps are almost identical to those at 1.5 to 2.5 inches in the beyond sleeve. They're snug, stimulating, and the widening canal here pulls you in just a little. The bumps feel great on the shaft while thrusting deeper, but they are perfect for teasing the head. To put this at the front of the shaft while thrusting deeper, but they are perfect for teasing the head. To put this at the front of the sleeve was an absolute genius move. Those of you who are less endowed will absolutely adore this sleeve.

1.5 inches to 2.5 inches. Well, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Oh, we're going to take a downhill dive here. So sad. How does it first half? This section is a bit of a snoozefest. What do you mean? Are you like holding it in each section?

What do you mean? What do you mean? It's like the middle of a movie. My dick got 1.5 inches in and I fell asleep. Oh. Like did he have a notepad next to him while he was doing this? Probably like a movie review, like the middle of the Hobbit, you're like, oh, this plot point is dragging on, isn't it? I'm, I'm gonna dispute the idea that I could, like does he have a tape measure next to what is, what is, what is left on the outside of his dick? You know what I mean? He marks? Yeah, surely.

I'm disputing the idea that I could put my dick into something and without being able to see my dick say, ah, my dick is exactly 1.25 inches into. Yeah, I think he's got a tape measure it. I don't think anyone's feeling that. And then you'd be done. You know, that'd be, you'd be done there. The loose rings here don't feel like much. Using Beyond as a point of reference, this is like a looser version of 0.5 inches to 1.5 inches in that sleeve. Not horrible, but very mediocre. 2.5 inches to 4.5 inches. I can't stress enough just how close this sleeve is to my Madison Ivy beyond.

This section is like a slightly looser version of 2.5 inches to 5 inches of that sleeve. This section is fairly tame but can be sneakily grippy if you go at it with enough speed. Oh my God. Oh my God. How can you tell if you like, if you're fucking a flashlight fast? Are you really saying to yourself, oh I just hit 4.5 inches. Yeah, that's the sweet spot. That's where the good stuff is. There it is.

Oh, I find myself wishing for a bit more intensity here, but the gentle tugging still feels pretty good overall. 4.5 inches to 5.5 inches. Quote, yo dog, I heard you like anal sleeves, so we put an anal sleeve in your vagina sleeve so you can bang while you bang. End quote, exhibit and he's spelled exhibit wrong. As in he's just written the word. That's not even the right. To mean, exhibit.

Well, I mean, you know, he's referring to the to the the man. But like, spell his name the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the the the th th th th th th th th thine thine thine thine thine thee the the the the the the the thease the the an the, thease the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, so the an thean. to to to to to to To mean, to mean, he's referring to the to the man. But like, spell his name right, you know. Oh my God. To really get a point, you know, get across my point of, you know, how my penis fills inside of the fleshlight. I think, I think I got to put a meme in. I could have put a really timely meme. How old is that meme at this point???. I. I. I. I. That's. That's. That's. That's the the to the the to the to the the the th. th. I the th. the th. I to th. to be th. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be to be to me me me me me. I to me me me. I to me me. I to me me me. I to me me me me me me. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theean. I'm thean. I mean mean mean, toeean. I mean, toe. I mean, toe. I mean, the. I'm the. I really timely, a really timely meme, you know. How old is that meme at this point? That's gotta be pretty old. Want to know how I come? But first, have a laugh.

Just checking a Know Your Meme here. This entry was added 13 years ago. I was gonna say, that's gotta be old. How old's this review? This is from this week. Okay. Hmm. Oh so he throws that funny little quote in there and then he says on a more serious note. We've had our little Japs back to the serious stuff. After our goof. let's get real. On a more serious note.

This section feels a lot like Texas Tornado, which is great. I assume that is a type. Must be like a famous fleshlight, like the big one. Or like a theme park ride. Yes. Just taking a, oh, okay. So the Texas tornado is a, oh, it's a, it's it's it's it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a but a thole. th. thoe. the. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a. It's a. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. th. th.. Just taking a note. Oh, okay. So the Texas Tornado is a, oh, it's a but-hole fleshlight modeled on porn star Alexis, Texas.

Okay. Okay. All right. And what I, uh... We didn't know because we're not as well first as a classic fleshlight, of course. Also a flesh jack is a, a the gay man's fleshlight uses, of course. Also a flesh jack is the gay man's fleshlight. Oh.

Looked that up. What's the difference? What's the difference? It just says it's the number one. Sex toy for gay men. OK. All right. Still a hole, but... It's just a hole.

Yeah, I'm not looking to fuck a mold of a ladies butt hole. Yuck. No, thank you. I'll be able to tell. As soon as I got 1.5 inches in, I knew something was wrong. Oh, god damn. So we're still on 4.5.5 inches. Please keep going. It's a smooth, suctiony ride with fantastic edging potential.

I can't reach past this section, but based on the rings earlier in the sleeve, I don't think I'm missing much. Oh my God. I'm just imagining a man reviewing my vagina this way. You know like sexting a guy and being like, oh, you like this pussy and it's just like, well, I do, but it just sections 2.5 to 4, a bit of a snooze face. Oh, he had a rough patch. Oh, he's a wrongly quarts and exhibit meaning, exhibit meaning him. Oh my God. He's like, this part of your pussy was not very epic win. Uh, closing thoughts, remarkably similar to beyond, as I expected, but with some fun variations in there.

Should you go hunt this sleeve down? If you're a short king, I could see trying to track this one down for the phenomenal entrance. Otherwise, probably not. We're saying short king to mean a guy with a smaller penis. Yes. Incredible. I like that. That's nice.

Yeah. Calling you like six four boyfriend of short king in front of everyone? What? Huh? Huh? Huh? Oh boy, so it turns out, um, yeah, there's just hundreds and hundreds of guys out there reviewing fleshlights just like this.

This is incredible. It is, it is the most depraved captains log I've ever heard in my life. Like I know there's like women's sex toy reviewers as well, but I feel like they're not, it's not like an inch one, inch two. You know what I, now, all right, all right, yes, there are female sex toy reviewers. What I don't like about this is the way they're making a little community out of it. Yeah, they're just chatting to each other. And like, look, very sex toy positive, like, you know, get one.

I got vibrators, like, shit's real, you know. I appreciate seeing a review that's just like, yeah, I calmed. I'm like, not only is that funny funny funny funny funny that tells me that it does the job. But like, I feel like knowing this much and going into that much detail, it's, it's, I don't get it. Maybe it's because I don't have a penis, but like. Well, you can see, like, what's interesting to me, right? It's like, looking through lots of posts. You hear guys saying, you hear guys saying. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th, th, like... Well, you can see, like what's interesting to me, right, is like looking through lots of posts. You hear guys saying, oh, I just got my first one, or I'm about to buy my second one, or like, I'm looking at getting one, and I'm, like, a lot of people asking for recommendations for like their first one, you know. So you see quite a bit in the discussion of people referring to DGS or death grip syndrome, which is a term for when you like jack off too much,

like holding your dick too hard, and you just kind of ruin the sensitivity kind of deal, right? So basically you wind up in this, in this realm where, where, where, like, the first, like, their first, like, like, the first, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, their, their, their, th, th, th, their, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, the, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, like, like, th, th. th. th. the, th. th. th. th. the sensitivity kind of deal, right? So basically you wind up in this realm where what you've acclimatized your penis to, you are not able to recreate when having sex with an actual person, right? So you see, like people talking about it on Reddit of like the recommendation to use a fleshlight so that you're not actually capable of like squeezing all the life out of your dick, you know? That to me makes a lot of sense as an entry point, right?

To be like, oh, there's this thing and it's kind of impacting my sex life. So I've heard other people talk about. Use one of these things, restore the sensitivity of your penis, but then people just like are immediately down this slope into, I just bought my 20th fleshlight. They're big. That's the thing, at that point when you've bought your 20th, or even 30th fleshlight and you're using all these different ones and they got different textures inside and and and you're paying inch by inch attention to what it feels like do you like and I'm not I'm not saying that these guys don't fuck because that would be rude of me like to

make that assumption but like purely out of curiosity if you're paying that much attention and and being so so so to be so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te te te te te te te te te te texts and te texts and te te te te te te te te te te and and and and and and and and their their te te te te their te their their their te their their their their te their te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their te. te. te. that assumption. But like purely out of curiosity, if you're paying that much attention and being so meticulous about what it feels like on the inside and getting all these different ones, surely it would be difficult for you to then go out and have an enjoyable experience inside of a real vagina if you've got such meticulous requirements like you're not two stars you're not like you're not like putting two fingers of each hand up into that cooch and looking around being like what are these ridges like you know like let's check out these bumps yeah I want to know if it's like my

you know buster nut cluster 2000 is it more like the cream puff or the Exotica is it and just look at the names of them here v force destroyer destroyer the thrower destroyer I don't want to put my, I don't put my dick into anything called destroyer. Destroyer? No. Garbage disposal. What is that like a cat type situation where there's... The barbs?

Or... Like a finger trap? You fuck this once and then you never fuck again. That's right. So on the packaging, the last flashlight you'll ever fuck um I know like I agree with you where I I think again sex toy positive and And if it like if it is genuinely helping you with a with like an issue around sensitivity or anything like that, you know, rock and roll

But by the time you've got like 20 or 30 of these bad boys, you're starting to give over. That's, that's kind of what I think about like, you know how you can buy the whole like disembodied arses to fuck? Yeah, like that kind of thing. I look at that stuff and I'm just like, where does that live in your house? Where are you keeping that? You know, like, yeah.

You can have a little box of sex toys under your bed. It's just, you know, subtly trapped under them. But like, you got a big, you've got a big disembodied ass. Yeah, you got to like, you to to, you, you, you, you're to, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, like, you're, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha., tha.a.a. that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I mean, then you can go all the way to the end of the scale of like people who get the real dolls and stuff like that. And I'm like, where are you putting that? Dead body size. I would say they usually, they usually keep it out in the open. Probably. From what I've seen, they're kind of just like this is my girlfriend. Yeah. I saw a video today of a lady doing like a 10 minute long rant about some

candles that she was trying to buy at like a bed bath and beyond or something or at least it was this lady from a YouTube channel doing his 10 minute long rant and another lady sitting in front of the TV that it was on also performing the same rant in perfect unison so she memorized the entire thing. And then like I found out that lady's that that that she was that that that that that that she that she that she that she that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was th that she was th th thi thi that she was that she was that that that that that that that that that she was that she was that that that that she was that she was that that she was that that she was that she was that she was that she was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that she was th was th was th was th was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thy was thi was thy was thi was thy was thi was thi was thi was thi was thi was thiison. So she memorized the entire thing. And then I found that lady's YouTube channel, the candle lady. And so she's just like a candle psycho from Wisconsin who does like crafts and stuff and has posted 3,000 videos on YouTube. And one of them there in the in the recent upload things was like her getting a baby reborn doll. Oh those are

fucked up. Yeah so like while while I do think it's fucked up for guys to go hey I bought a full-siz to fuck, and I keep it in my house and everything. I also think that the ladies who buy like the... A realistic baby, I'm saying that's worse. They buy the... Look, look, I'll immediately... The caveat?

I will make an argument of like, I get it if you've lost a child. I was just going to say. It's like a trauma thing. Like, I can understand that. But there are also like people who like collect them and and seeing them go for sale, it's like, people who make it their whole kind of like personality and online thing to post like photos of them and they dress them up and they put them in scenes and they have speech bubbles written in the in the baby writing. Yeah they're like saying stuff. Yeah that's

that to me is that to me is just as freaky. That's a woman's privilege to do that because if you're a man doing that like you are a serial killer killer. Imagine if I got one that that like like that like that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th. the. thi thi the. the. the. th. th. they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th is th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th. th. thi is like thi is like the is the is the is the is the is the. the. the letting middle-aged ladies get away with this. Imagine if I got one and it was like... Yeah, I'd be calling the cops. I'd call the cops on you. This is my, my widow, grandda, you know? You know, they do talk about that. So many of them have baby yodas that they dress up like that too. They do. There's like a baby yoda community where they're treating the baby yoda,

like you're taking it out in a pram. Oh, what do you like, you know how there's, um, there's all the people in different like online communities are adjacent to other online communities who talk to each other about like, oh my, I think like my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, th brother, my, my, my, th brother, my, my, th brother, th brother, my, th brother, my, my, th brother, my, my, thr, thr, thr, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like about like, oh my, I think like my, my brother is like an in-sell and he's probably going to do a school shooting or like my dad is super into Q&on now and like and he won't stop talking about it and we don't want him to come to Christmas and all that kind of thing. Do you think the same thing is happening for like the people who are like, oh, I have all these baby Yodas and I pretend they're my grandkids? Yeah, like are you calling, are you writing about the Monred,

being like, what do I do about my auntie? She's being super fucking weird. She's probably not gonna do a school shooting though, like, no, that's fair. I don't really think it's a gateway to anything, that's the thing, like I feel like you start and end at fake realistic babies. Like there's like the, you know, there's no, there's no follow-up really, which is why I think is as, you know, as as cringes that can sometimes be, it's ultimately harmless. Yeah.

So I have a little bit of like, uh, you know, I think that they're chilled. They're just a little weird, you know, like. Ruby's just moving the camera away from a baby dog like in the back. Don't look at the background. It's just babies. They're actually really cool. I actually just have like 30 babies. And if you, you know, if you, if you get the right clothes, they can look really, really cute.

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If you find that you are having a little relationship trouble, just to pick up your telephone and dial it on the double, you call 1,800, 3,17 seven five one five now you're paging dr. Lucy Pagent d'clusy so so comes to us from the subreddit R slash relationships Wife want me to get rid of fish tank. Straightforward title, I like it. Typical wife behavior.

So me and my wife have lived together for a year now. Okay. Newly weds or been married for a while and just decided to move in. Just decided I moved in. I don't know, maybe they got married and moved in. So me and my wife have lived together for a year now, and I recently got sucked into this fish tank hobby because she hated my video game hobby. You're shaking your head there, Lucy.

I'm like, why, which one's worse, you know? I guess, uh, what's it like for you, Lucy, th a, Lucy, Lucy, Lucy, the game, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's to to to to thi to to to to to to to to thi to thi to to thi thi's it like for you, Lucy, being the gamer in the relationship? It's weird. It's weird, you know? And Pat's like, oh, you don't want to spend time with me? I'm like, I just want to, just like a couple of games, like just a few little games. A couple little games. What do you play in the moment? I just play Overwatch because I don't like myself.. I to to to to to the game the game to the game to the game to the game th. I to the game I don't like myself. I just like to play a game that I hate all of the time basically. He should he should be coming in while you're gaming bralis of course and bring you with a sandwich unannounced. It's only right. Unprompted yeah. I think was the phrasing.

Yeah, one of you is the gamer and the other one is the brahless sandwich bringer. Yeah. My wife is not bringing me any braless sandwiches while I'm gaming. She just looks at me in a way that says, uh-uh. Oh no, you're on blast. So she puts the bra in the sandwich then? There's no sandwich. It it. She, it, it, it, it, it, it, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's th. She's th th. She's th. She's th th th th th th that, she's that, that, that, that that, that, th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that the the thea theaugh, that the the the the the the the thi the 't know, you're on blast. So she puts the bra in the sandwich then? There's no sandwich. It's no sandwich.

She puts on two bras, and then comes through the room and she's like, uh-uh. Uh-uh. She's like, don't look at them. Considering how respectful I am. Nobody needs that. We bought a small tank together that we both wanted. And I then turned an old 20 gallon I had sitting around with nothing in it into one as well. Sounds wholesome.

I'm liking it. It's a 90 liter fish tank at this point. I kind of... So what I'm struggling with here, right, is that I... I have no like frame of reference for what a 20-gallon fish tank looks like, you know? Like, size-wise. Probably be used that one of those big, like, uh... It's got to be a big fella.

I want to see it, uh, somebody standing next to it, you know, oh yeah, okay, and that's... One of those big like cocaine daycaller type, like fancy ones? It's not even that big. It's not even that big. All right. What's the problem? You know? I was picturing juice bigolo, male jiggle. Yeah, yeah.

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I loved the fresh water and did not want to get rid of all the time and effort and fish I had in it. So we've had the salt water tank for a while. Something came up with my brother and I had to take the tank back. Now my wife won't stop arguing with me, telling me I need to to to sell me I to sell me I to sell me I to sell me I to sell me I to sell me I the to the the the the to the the the the to sell the freshwater tank. It's only 20 gallons and just won't let us keep both. But I love them both and don't want to get rid of one. Am I in the wrong for wanting to keep both? What are you talking about? This is so specific that it seemed real, right? Yes. Oh, my brother had to keep it and then something came up. And she doesn't like the freshwater tank.

Yeah. I don't get what the beef is. Let him keep his tanks, you know? Like let him keep his tanks, but she's like, I will not have another fresh water tank in my home. You can have as many saltwater tanks as you want, but that thing is out of here, you know? Maybe I'm just not a fish tank guy, maybe I don't understand. So on the actual post here we've got somebody replying saying, funny how in these situations the original

poster never posts why their partner is complaining just wife slash husband is a kill joy. That's true. Others agree yes it is somewhat suspicious when no reason is given it suggests the maybe the reason is they were worried we might agree with it. So the original poster said her reasons were it makes the house look tacky and we originally got the saltwater tank because it was a good deal and I had to the other fresh water tanks out of the house three of them so now he's the the the the the the the the th the th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the's thi thi. their the. the. the. Yes the. Yes. the. the. the. Yes. the. the. Yes. their their their their their their their their. their their. their their the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. the. I thi the. Yes. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the thean thean thean thean thean the the the the the the th deal and I had to move the other freshwater

tanks out of the house three of them so now he's got three fresh water tanks so I sold off so yeah so so it is replies he's sort of you know he's topping out of four fish tanks yeah okay sold off to had my brother had my brother had to the main one so that most of the fish and plants I'd raised. Something came up with my brother and I had to go back and get the tank or else the fish were gonna die and she knew and came with me and now she's saying I have to sell the fresh water stuff because that's not what we agreed on when we got the salt water tank. Also she said she doesn't think video games. that the monthly cost of the the the the the the the the the the the the tha tha tha tha the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. theate. theateate. the the the the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank. tank tank. tank tank tank tank. tank tank. tank. tank tank. tank wanting to play video games I never spent any money on it other than the monthly cost of Xbox Live let this man live you know yeah I feel like

there's something else that he's not bringing up my girlfriend just hates my fish tanks for no reason sorry my wife yeah my wife who just moved in yeah they have to get rid of my 60 fish tanks. Somebody says, oh it's kind of insensitive her of her to say about video games, assuming that the games weren't affecting your life negatively. I bet they were. They weren't. I would play for an hour at most once a day and she hated it. That's a lie. Sounds like a lot of shit.

Everyone's always exaggerating one eye or the other. And you're like you're understating it in that case for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Just say hour. If you play games as a hobby. Doing an hour every day.

Yeah. Nah. Yeah, I don't agree with one hour of day of games here. Yeah. Why does she want you to get rid of the tanks? What did she actually say to you? She couldn't come up with a reason other than she said we could get the saltwater tank if I moved the other tanks out. So I sold off two of the three and had my brother hold on to one.

Something happened with my brother. Tell us what happened with your brother. Yeah, and like, did he get shot? Did he get shot? He once again didn't answer the question and was like, like, well, no, there probably was a reason. Yeah. Is he kissing the fish? There's something going on. Sanchu says, does she have to clean the tanks, feed the fish? Is she going without or paying for your hobby? Does she have hobbies besides making decisions on your hobbies?

Question, yeah. He says her only hobby is working out. She does not do anything with the tanks at all. I take care of them completely. She stays home and I work. I also bought her a $140 pair of shoes. So it's not like we don't have the money or the we're broke because of my hobby. Sounds like you got a hard body girl who wants you to stop playing video games, bro. But also, own your fish.

It feels like he's dropping new but unnecessary information at every point that you can. Yeah. Yeah. Also my brother typed this and also like my eyes are closed and like also like here's a distant childhood memory I have That I just remembered now and Here all the fish that I have. Oh, why did she why did she why she want me get rid of the tank? Yeah, so I actually know a lot about the law of McDonald land and all the characters that reside among it It just seems like, I'm getting, hey, this story seems a little fishy to me. I'm getting, I'm getting the vibes that like, I don't know, I'm like, uh, caricaturing these people in my head, and I'm just thinking about this like

super buff woman with $140 shoes. She only works out. She has no other hobbies. Clearly no other hobbies but working out despite them buying the fish tank together and this guy who plays video games for an hour a day and has too many fish tanks. Piles of fish tanks. They don't, they don't particularly sound like two people I assume would be married for however many years and living together for a year. But it's, it's just all seem. I assume, uh, they're, it's, uh, they-it, it's just all too thin, I, I, I, I, I, I, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too too too too too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too, too, too, too, too, too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, together for a year. But it's, it just all seems a little not sure about it. Well, I think I've finally drilled down far enough here to get the real dirt. Oh.

Hats and Topcoats asks. What do you like about your wife and your relationship? I assume there's an answer to that, and I'm asking to counteract the image that's been built in this thread, which is a pretty vapid unpleasant person who only cares about how things look and what other people think. OPE replies. Well, right now, not much, honesty. I like that she was good with my son. He is three.

But now she's... But now she stopped trying with him because she keeps trying to compare and be better than his birth mum. She said that our kids, if we had some, should be more special than him, because he's from my ex. She's a Christian. I feel like this is not about the fish tank. Not anymore. She's a Christian which I loved but now she only wants to go to her dad's church and we never go to my parents church anymore. It seems like I'm the only one giving up things. She stays home, doesn't work and watches my son when we have him two weeks out of the month and that's it. I've gotten to the point where there's not much I do like anymore. I'm, I got, I got a bit of an inconsistency there where he said that she doesn't try with his son anymore.

Mm-hmm. But she looks after him for two weeks of the month. Yeah, she staves homes and looks after her, but he, he also said because she's constantly trying to one up and compare herself to the birth mother. Well, in that situation where you'd be comparing yourself and trying to be better than the birth mother, wouldn't you in turn be trying harder with the kid and not giving up? Hmm. Who knows? Yeah. Also, I'm 23 and she's 22.

There's your problem. And you have an ex-mother of your child and a current wife. 23 and you got a three-year-old and a baby mama and a nagging wife. This dude's life sucks. The actual thing that they're posting about on the Reddit is never what the actual thigh is about. It's the classic like, it's because this bitch doesn't want me to have a salt water tank. And then it's just like, that's a video aspect. So they're in a marriage in their early 20s and shock horror, things are going wrong because they clearly have nothing in common. Yeah. Wow. God. Crazy.

Never saw that coming. How do people get himself there, you know? I don't know. I'd love to know. Give me a detailed, like, timeline of your life that you have a child and you're currently in your second marriage at 22. That's a rough time. Hmm. Hey, uh, speaking of places that you didn't want to wind up,

it's time to check in on Karen's Diner. Ruby, are you familiar with the Karen's Diner? Ruby, are you familiar with the Karen's Diner concept? I am. Okay, I assume you have not been to Karen's Diner. I haven't because I'm horribly insecure, but also like the thought of it terrifies me for a few reasons. Because the thing is like they don't do what Karen's do, they just have free reign to, you know, talk shit. They're just mean to you. They just mean to mean. And like, for, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, their th. thi, their their the, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, the a the a thea thee thee thin. I thee thin. I thin. I thin. I the. I thin, the, they don't do what Karen's do. They just have free reign to, you know, talk shit.

They're just mean to you. They just mean. And like, from all reports, it sounds horrible, but also like, I mean, I, you know, I have quite severe anxiety and just general mental health issues. And as well as that have, you know, had eating problems in my time. So like if one of them chucks... What if we would go to a restaurant where someone screamed at you about eating in your appearance?

Yeah, if someone there, I mean like, at first I was like they wouldn't do that, but then from a recent story I saw, I was like, maybe they will. The thought of someone coming up to me and being like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, if like, if like, if like, if like, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, their, like, like, their, like, like, maybe they will. The thought of someone coming up to me and being like, oh, had enough fatty, I would kill myself in front of them to change the trajectory of their life. Maybe that's what Karen's diner needs. A nice public suicide. Yeah, maybe that'd really turn it around, make them realize what they're doing. It's just, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, and that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, and that's, and that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, I I I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, tha, thii, thi, thi, thi, that would really turn it around, make them realize what they're doing. It's just, yeah, I understand it to an extent that it's like fun for them, but

it's also just like, I don't know, like why, I don't think I would ever go because I have too many insecurities that I'm worried they'd go for and if they did then I would, I don't know what I'd do with myself. I'd go home and then I'd cry. And is that, is that fun for somebody? We've talked about it extensively on this show, like looking at things like customer reviews and all that sort of stuff. And like, I remain like, you know, they were calling my, they were calling my five-year-old kid, a little fucking cunt and all this sort of stuff. And like, I remain very puzzled by the concept overall because, like, a Karen, as we all

understand it, is somebody, is a middle-aged white lady with a silly hair cut who asks to speak to the manager and is unreasonable and rude about something normal. In this case, all your kids are a little cun. In this case, Karen owns the diner I guess? Like is the idea that it's populated by Karen's? Yeah, are they wanting to speak to my manager? Yeah, exactly. So I've stayed pretty puzzled about this. I think that it's supposed to be, I think that it's supposed to be that they're rude to you and that then sort of gives you the social license for you to act like a Karen, and then you can all like just get into it,

and then nobody's held responsible for anything, you know. But I don't think you can, right? I don't think you're allowed to get at them. I might be wrong on that, but like. I think you can, but it escalates the situation. That's the vibe I guess. Yeah. So what's going on at Karen's?

So this comes to us from the Australian's shitty youth media spin-off, the Oz. Oh, I forgot about that. The Australian's junkie. I think I know this story. You know what you're getting into, Karen's boss defense staff. The Karenstiner co-founder says a viral video of the man getting upset about comments on his receding hairline has been taken out of context. Love taking stuff out of context. The 50s themed theatrical dining experience.

Now, I always kind of took theatrical dining experience. Now, I always kind of took theatrical dining experience to be like, there's some stage show elements, you know? Like a Dracula's type situation. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm picturing when you say theatrical dining experience. I guess the situation is that you're just being yelled at while you're eating. Yeah. Like who does where they pretend to like you? Yeah. Yeah. Like the opposite of that. Yeah. Okay. Um. The 50s theme theatrical dining experience where diners go to be entertained by rude staff. to be their true to the tru. toe. throwne. the their their to to their their to their to to to to their to to their to to to to to to to their to to to to to to they to they they they to to they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. their their their their their their their their their their their their the their the the ated after staff allegedly made a comment about his receding hairline. God, you can't do that. In the video posted to Tick Tock by another customer, the man can be heard pointing to the door and saying,

what's the one thing your fucking sign says? No body shaming. But Karen Stein a co-founder, Aden Levinvin thinks social media's overnight portrayal of his staff as the world's biggest bullies has been blown out of proportion. Quote, it's unfortunate that with social media those small elements get exposed and get hyperinflated and you don't also get an opportunity to tell the full story, he told the Oz. I feel like we all get it. Like we all understand what's happening, right? It's like we've talked about. It's like the staff are meant to bully you, but it's like,

I don't know your job. I don't know what your other insecurities are. All I've got is like, oh, you're kind of balding. Yeah, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I that, th. th. to to to to to to to to to th tho, tho, tho, tho, thol, thol, thol, thol, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to all all all all all all all all all all all you're kind of balding. Yeah, and I saw another, I saw another TikTok after that happened of this girl being like, I think I might have gone to the same one and they just kept making jokes about me being ginger. And like, look, a ginger joke here in there can be funny. But like, I don't, there's something about like, why would you go somewhere where you're bullied? But also, I, I respect the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule their But also, I respect the rule of like, don't go for someone's physical appearance. Because it's a low blow, you know? Everybody has insecurities.

So it's really strange to me that they'd be like what if we just didn't what if we just didn't can't read suddenly if we ignored our little rule physical appearance never mind though I just read the next paragraph so it's a brand he continues I think it's affected everybody across the board within the brand when all of a sudden overnight you've been kind of branded as the worst thing that is happening by a certain demographic on social media. Levin said the man had already been asked to leave the venue and was being super aggressive calling one of the waitresses a fat bitch multiple times. Then the receding hairline comment was made and quote he lost it.

Yet he said they were investigating any comments made about the man's receding hairline which breached their rules. Oh, the lay can't do that, but he can. I don't believe that. I don't believe that they will be investigating this at all. Because all of the... Probably not. To what? In what jurisdiction does Karen's diner fall under? Quote, the breach of rules for us is a termination.

We have to have a pretty hard line both with customers. We kick them out for breaching the rules and same for staff members, Levin said. Based on like reviews and everything else that we've seen, that is not remotely true. It's not the first time the diner has found itself in strife. Earlier this year, a father was referred to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the diner has found itself in strife. Earlier this year, a father was referred to as a pito by a Karen's waiter when his 14-year-old daughter sat on his lap. A spokesperson apologized to the family. House rules for staff and customers include no racist, sexist, homophobic or ablest comments and no body shaming or throwing food and drink. There was that dude in the, there was

somebody in the reviews that we were reading on a previous episode where they were saying, hey, when a waitress is like threatening to pour a drink over your head and you say a bunch of times seriously don't and then they pour the whole drink over your head at the table. That's kind of fucked up. Yeah, I saw another one which was like a waitress threw my milkshake on the floor and I had to pay for it anyway. Like... There was a whole section of reviews of people talking about basically being bullied into giving like $20 tips. Yeah. Or getting told that they had to get like everybody at the

table had to give a $20 tip because there was such shit customers or whatever and then saying no thank you and them just charging their cards for that anyway? Awesome. Just doing a little robberies. Levin said staff should not say anything personal about customers' appearances. He said they had a zero tolerance policy for both patrons and staff breaking the rules. Levin said they were really clear about what Karen Steiner was and that quote everybody knows what they're getting into when they come. We have huge posters on the walls that say warning you are entering a

place that's not for the faint of heart. It says on the website, it says on the walls that say, warning, you are entering a place that's not for the faint of heart. It says on the website, it says on the bookings, you're told when you arrive what we are, what this place is about. But there's also rules that the staff clearly isn't following. Yeah, and I don't, I don't understand, like it really is the type of place to me where I'm like, it really is the kind of thing to me where I'm like, how long can this last? Yeah, it's gonna collapse, right? And how good is the food?

Yeah, probably not good. Can't be that good. I better have a burger that makes me come if I'm gonna to have some lady telling me I'm a fat bitch. Like, you know? On the Brisbane subreddit on Tuesday, one user said they walk with a crutch, but quote, their disability is neuro and would pass on Cairns because they didn't want to be laid into for that. Leavent said he didn't just want people with people th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to th th th to th to th th th th th th th to th th to the to to to to to to to to to the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be laid into for that. Levin said he didn't just want people with thick skin to be able to enjoy Karenstiner. Quote, it's surface level humor and banter. We have seven year olds coming down loving it. Yeah? Seven year olds come down to your mom's a bitch. Your dad's a pito and your mom's fat.

And they're like, yay! Yay! My mom is a bitch. Your dad's a pito and your mom's fat. And they're like, yay! My mom is a bitch. Like, why are you taking your fucking kids there? That's insane to me. Like, not to victim blame, but don't take your fucking cafee. What's wrong with you? That is a thing that I don't get because like, like you know, my eldest daughter is nine and I think she's she's pretty smart. She gets she gets a bunch of stuff but like I think if I took her into a place and people were just like being

really mean, I don't think she'd get it. No, you're like, oh no it's a concept. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. Sorry, this is a theatrical performance. You're the idiot. I'm forgetting you're not supposed to be yelling at your own family, you know? Oh dear. Yeah, I don't know why anybody would actively go. Unless the food is really good, I like, I don't, I don't, I don't want any, like, I don't, I'm not, I've worked in retail for like, seven or eight years and like, I understand the desire to just want to lay into a customer. I totally get it. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. Yeah. Yeah. the, to. Yeah. Yeah. the their. to. their. their. I. I. I. I. I, to. I, to, to, to, to, to, to, I to, I to, I to, the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. Yeah, they, they, they, they. I they. I they, to, they, they, they, their, the eight years and like I understand the desire to just wanna lay into a customer. I totally get it. But at the same time, like, why would I wanna go anywhere

where I would be actively abused in anyway? Love a good bit of banter, but like, I don't, I don't like mean banter. And I hate the word banter. That shit sucks. But like, a little back and forth is fun, but if someone's going to be like, your nose is big and not in the cool Roman way that the Tick Tock girls love, but in the ugly and yucky way that you should die.

Like, I don't, I would hate that. I don't get it. I don't get it. Is it a massacus thing? This review on, one-star review on Google for Karen's Diner in Carlton, Victoria, never had someone dish out racism before to me as a customer, but I guess that's what I get for thinking I would just be heckled like the other customers. I'm too much of an introvert to say something at the time, but I think my review here will reflect what I experienced. Good food, but never coming back. With a response from the owner, there's no way any of our team would ever be racist. So we're keen to hear more and investigate. The least racist people you've thi thired thired thired thired the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to to to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to me as a to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the toe. their their their. their. their racist people you've ever met, actually. Yeah, quite a few reviews about just being screamed at in a way where they were like,

I didn't think that was a joke. Somewhat amusing experience overall, and most of the carons were funny and entertaining. However, one Karen went absolutely ballistic at our table and a nearby table for taking photos with our phones. It was next-level anger and she did not appear to be joking. She started ranting about filming, being against the rules, and then we did not have her permission to be taking photos of her. She almost whacked the phone out of our hands. She gave us a warning and told us she would kick us out of it again.

It was not funny. It was extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely extremely uncomfortable. It was extremely uncomfortable. It was extremely uncomfortable. It was extremely uncomfortable. It was extremely uncomfortable. to be. to be. to be. to be. th me. thi. to be. to be. to be. to be. tooom. toozy. toozy. too. too. the vibe of the whole night. We had seen videos and photos of the carons on social media and assumed it was fine. If it's against the rules, it should be clearly outlined and communicated to customers. This is the fault of the restaurant owners, not the carons who are left to communicate to this the customers. That said, the way this caren chose to communicate it was out was out was out was out was out was out was out out out out was out out out. the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. te line. On another note, terrible food. Some of the most revolting I've ever tasted and I would not return to recommend. And if you'd like a crime pass for the week. Yep. I know arson is illegal, but it's not always easy to prove. And you can take with that, take that information to the bank, you know Well, and quite a few in the reviews

Of of people saying like, oh, I was under the impression that you're kind of supposed to give them a serve back and they do not like it When that happens they do not care for that at all. It's so good. Oh my goodness. Well, I believe that that is an episode of the podcast, Puentevista. Ruby, what do you got going on? Anything to promote? What do I do? You can find me on the website that I write for Kataku Australia,

where I sometimes tell the truth and I sometimes lie. There are two rubies in front of you. One is telling the truth and the other is lying. Yeah, I do some goofs, but I also love to do, you know, cover video game news, because it's all very cool and interesting. So you can find me, you know, at Kutakau, Australia, or on Twitter at Ruby and I swear I just got back from taking a big old mental health break. A little hiatus. It's weird how the internet makes you feel horrible. It does. Sure it does. Well, thank you very much of joining us. And you know go and read, go and read Ruby stuff. Give you some little treat online. Yeah, if you if you

if you were with Ruby's nice drawing. If you can read. If you can read. If you can read. If you can, enjoy it. If you can read, come on down, you know? Yeah. My goodness. All right, that's it, everybody. See you next time. Bye. Peace. the