Boonta Vista - EPISODE 275: The Pengelly 'With Meat' Hypothesis

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Blountavista episode 275. I am Ben and I am here at the 2022 Symposium of Global Food and Beverage Engineering, hosting a roundtable discussion with the leading minds working in the modern energy drink space. Joining us from the caffeinated beverages division of PepsiCo is Consumables Engineer Gordema Pole who invented the original rat squeezing process from which the recipe for Rockstar was developed. It's Andrew. Hey, I had to squeeze a lot of rats to get where I am. Yes, that's true. And like to be honest it started as like a as a passion and eventually I was able to turn it into my life's work. Yeah you were squeezing those thats thats thats thats thats thats th thats th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the th. Yes th. Yes th. Yes thus thus thus th. Yes th. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, th. Yes, th. th. that tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th. th. th. th. Yes. like a passion. And eventually I was able to turn it into my life's work. Yeah, you were squeezing those rats by hand at first now.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah, long before there, like before there was an energy drink market, obviously, and to be honest, before I was an adult. You gotta keep it to yourself, though, like that when you're, if you're young enough, and you kind of squeezing rats and some of them, they don't come back from the squeezing. Don't tell everyone about it, basically. You can ask some questions. Unless you've, you invented rock star, the energy drink, rock star.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yep. I don't know if they have one, that one in the US or not. Oh, let me, let me just say once you start working for, you know, one, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like the, like the, like the, like, like, like the, like, like, like, the, the, like, the, like, like, the, like, like, likethat one in the US or not. Oh let me let me just say once you start working for you know one of the one of those like umbrella corporations that owns 60% of the other beverages in the world yeah they're not really concerned about how many rats you squeeze they're about the bottom line and that's why it's a perfect place me to work. That's right. Also with us from the prestigious international marketing firm Klein, Schmidt, Goebbels and Kunt, it's veteran advertising psychologist Dr. Horst Plantstand. Who invented online gaming as a way to make adults drink a product that the industry originally predicted would only sell well with 13 year olds who didn't know any better. It's Lucy.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Hey Lucy. Hi. I'm very smart as you probably got from that little spiel. So that's why I'm the head what you just said. Yeah. So you guys, you had a problem and your problem was that there's only so many shitty 13 year olds in the world who will buy energy drinks and you thought fuck. Fuck. How do we get a broader market share? And then you thought I've got it. Online gaming. That will make 29 year olds drink monster and mother and... And partnerships, partnerships with Doritos. So you put like rock star-flavored Doritos or baby you got yourself a campaign. But you did get the China's one-child policy lifted as well, so it's some good... We did, we did. It's a huge mother, mother energy-consuming nation in China.
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Starting point is 00:04:14 Oh. So we scoop the ponds, we feed the rats. We get 30% of the rat crystals. And Andrew gets to keep the rats. Yeah. Got some squeezing to do. Yeah, we can work on this deal. That's some real brand synergy there to have the standing water from Prupiat that gives pineapple and watermelon v its distinctive refreshing taste, but then you also get the rat squeezing that gives rock star its distinctive refreshing taste. Yeah, but any, uh, any mutations that are the mutations the rat the rat squeezing that gives rock star its distinctive refreshing taste.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah, but any mutations that are brandable, we are both in with co-patent owners of that. That's actually where Red Eye got its name from the distinct mutant rat breed with red eyes that they use to make Red Eye. The only good task... Those guys work hard because the lifespan of one of those is about 42 minutes, I think. Yeah, you gotta act quick. Squeezing your dead rat will not give you the beverage that you want. No, you can taste the difference.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's gonna be fresh, it's gotta be vital. The best thing is if the power goes out while you're the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their squeezing rats in the lab you won't lose any of them. Hey what's a deal with how many energy drinks there are? You guys notice that? These days you go to the energy drink section of your local supermarket and it's like reading a war and peace. It's like reading war and peace instead of words it's different energy drinks. You imagine how long war and peace would be if he had some red eye to drink. It's like a... It's like a...
Starting point is 00:05:52 And lime, whatever my thing is. He's suggesting that the only up about on the length of War and Peace was that he was a bit too sleepy. I would just say he could squeeze more out of every day. Yeah. And we could help him do that if he wasn't a dead Russian bitch. Whoever that was. Chikovsky. Yeah. Leo Chikovsky. We're so cultured. We're so cultured on this show. Honestly, you know. We're not just uh, we're not just getting... Don't, don't I'm trying really hard. Why don't you tell the audience the liquids you have in front of you right now, Andrew?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Name them. At 5.43 p.m. Australia and eastern daylight savings time. Having a beer, one beer. Probably there's two beers. Oh yeah, that's a case I drink the first beer and then I don't have to make trouble for Ben by getting up and leaving. I appreciate that. To get another beer. And if I don't drink the second beer, I'll just put it back in the fridge. That's responsible drinking. I that I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's what's what's that's what's what's what's what's what's that's that's what's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's To get another beer. And if I don't drink the second beer, I'll just put it back in the fridge. That's responsible drinking. I think that's what that means. Anything else? I'm having a capital brewing co, Coast ale, brewed right here in Canberra,
Starting point is 00:07:15 delicious. And a small glass of buffalo trace bourbon. Yeah. Now... There's nothing wrong with having a bourbon and a beer together. It's a great combo. They must have, they must have brewed that beer in Jarvis Bay because it's the only, it's the coastal territory of the ACT. Oh, it's a nice little, it's an extant territory of. Yeah. Feel free to look that one up. That might not be true. I think that's true. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It is a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's an the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the might not be true. I think that's true. It is. Of ACT, yeah, Jums Bay is the, it's on the coast there. It is a military thing. It is a military thing. Public servants go on there 18 million days off during the year.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Am I right? Get them, get them loose. Get those public servants. They've too too too too too too too too too tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. to to to to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. ta. ta. ta get them, Lucy. Get those public servants. They've had it too easy for too long. God, we need to just sort some shit out around there, I tell you. We need to send an advertising big wig like Lucy into the public service and let her get amongst it on those lazy workers with a lead pipe. With a lead pipe. She's mighty angry. Ready to start a pipe.
Starting point is 00:08:34 With a lead pipe. She's sweet and red, she's swinging lead. Gonna hit you in and hand, yeah. With a lead pipe. I haven't heard that one in a while. That was a little treat. We, um, we might... Give it a round's a rest. Uh, if you'll...
Starting point is 00:08:56 Pardon my language, blown our load too early by naming everything you could hit with a lead pipe in the first couple of weeks that we had it as a segment. But guess what maybe that refractory period is over. From the well-known publication Yomiuri Shimbun, Restaurants I Robot Help to ease ease labor shortage. Killet, special it's a special the pipe. Robot Technology introduced at some eateries amid the pandemic to limit human contact might be here to stay. As restaurants look to automation to deal with staff shortages, no one wants to work these days.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, yeah. That's the big problem I've noticed. Is that robots? They like to work. If only we could have one of those, uh, one those, I don't know, they look like a small, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the th, th, the the the the the, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their of those, I don't know, they look like a small R2D2s I guess with an iPad on them, is that what happens? Yeah, I think that's what, most of the time when people are talking about robots, it's just like a stand for an iPad but the stand has like little arms and the arms don't do anything. Yeah, the arm is the thumb, it was a the tham, tham, tham, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, that, that, that, that, tham, tham, thi, that, that, tham, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, theeeeee an thee an theee an thee an the, the, thi, thi, thi, the other was the ups to make you feel comfortable. I had one in Sol. It just had like three like tables under it and it was just an iPad and then it had a smiley face on it. On the iPad? It was a man, but it wasn't a man. It was an object. It's pretending to be a man. And we know it's not a man because it will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Starting point is 00:10:19 No soul to speak of. Edomei stand Toriasu Honten, a sushi restaurant in Taisha Ward, Osaka. Last week unveiled a robot bartender that made a highball in about a minute using its automated arm, pick up a glass, fill it with ice, pour whiskey and soda into it, and mix it with a stirrer. I'm listening. I can do that too. I do it several times a week. Does it take you about a minute? Probably less. I mean most the time I'm not stirring it with the stirrer though I'm just sort of giving the glass a little bit of a jiggle as I'm lifting it up off the bar top. You're not flipping it around. You're not doing silly stuff. I hate it. not doing cool bar stunts. I hope this robot takes a job of guys that are doing silly stuff with the cocktails. Yeah, those cool tricks. I don't need that. I just need a drink, pal.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I would like to see a robot like doing the Tom Cruise bartender tricks from cocktail, except it's just flinging the bottles and smashing it. That'd be great. That'd be all right. I wouldn't stay at the bar for long. I'd get a laugh and then I'd leave. It's probably not a great money-making exercise, I think.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Most people would order a drink and then pretty much immediately leave out of fear and not pay for the one drink that has been made with the like multiple full smashed bottles of liquor. This is one of those things that's like it's it's not because you can break I think this automation into two parts right like one which is like the McDonald's self-serve screen checkouts right where they clearly think it's going to be cheaper for people to punch in their own orders than talking to somebody, right? So they're going to have more money, more money for us, fuck you. But the other one is just like as a novelty attraction, right? Which Japan is crazy for, we were looking at like things to do in Tokyo and one of them, one of the things thiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi looking at things to do in Tokyo and one of them.
Starting point is 00:12:26 One of the things that white people love to do in Tokyo is go to the robot party bar or whatever the fuck it is. They love to go to the robot cafe. Yeah. A bunch of people dressed up as robots and then also, to a lesser extent, I guess, yeah, we didn't go there, so I don't know, but we almost went there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Why people, they go to the robot cafe. I do. I do really love it there. I mean I went to the robot fried chicken place in Seoul because it said on the reviews. A robot gives you chicken. One star. And I said, that sounds sick. But it was just like a novelty. Like, it didn't make the the the the the tha tha tha think, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, ty. ty. today, ty. today, the. that, the. they're it was a tiny restaurant, it would have been quicker for them to bring the chicken over. Like it was just
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Starting point is 00:13:37 I am. Sometimes I wonder like, you know, you ever watch a movie like say, uh... No. Not me. Not really my vibe. Any of the movies where the, like AI, Stephen Spielberg's AI, and they're bashing all the robots and they look sad. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:15:14 No, it isn't, says Theo. Look, unless, unless if I insult the robot and it causes cortisol to flush through a bunch of gray pink meat Yeah, and that is directly transferred into sadness It's not real sadness. It's not like not like we experience. So if you perfectly replicated all of the electrical electrical connections in human brain. So all of the weighted neurons and the whatever's that fire off, everything that makes up the network that is a human brain, but you did it using only like silicon architecture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Doesn't count? Doesn't count. It's just electrical signals are firing in meat. It has to be in meat. It's just electrical signals kind of firing attached to a soul. Yeah because the electrical signals are firing in meat which is... That's right, meat is the vessel for the soul. What's known as the pengeli with meat hypothesis? Now at this point we are not going to get into whether or not I should be eating animals on account of the meat soul hypothesis. Yeah, no, that's we worked out that one's bad but we just don't think about it. Yeah, yeah. That one's bad but
Starting point is 00:16:33 you know. What are you gonna do? Sometimes the rats got to get squeezed. Whereas beating a robot. Someone's got to squeeze the rats. Yeah. So what do you reckon the, what do you reckon the replicants were thinking with? Because they got meat on bone. No, I think they're meat as well. I think the brain is also meat. When I was a kid in our first watch Blade Runner, I was like, couldn't they just like cut their skin open and have a look and see if they're robots?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Didn't really realize what they're a good point yeah yeah oh damn I'm a robot well that answers that question what the fucks this little paper unicorn for according to the restaurant's operator CIX holdings the robots have enabled the outlet to cut the number of staff by 50% you missed the bit that he can make 14 different drinks oh sorry which is crazy to me because the first drink they describe him making is just like a mixed beverage. Yeah. He's made a whiskey and soda. All right, if they've got five different mixes and they've got five different spirits,
Starting point is 00:17:37 maybe... I already get 25 drinks. Yeah, I mean, we're all mainly imagining like, I can make you a gin and tonic. Yeah, he's the Bundy and Coke, a Bundy and Coke, a Bundy and Coke, a CC and Coke, a CC and dry, and so on. And so forth. No list more. A 7 and 7. A vodka and tonic. A screwdriver, perhaps. You know, anything he can, he can give a little stir. I wonder if he's got a robot pinky. I'd be into that. Yeah. If he stirred and his pinky was out.
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Starting point is 00:19:16 Can I knock on the red pools? Quote. Using robots means it possible to operate restaurants with fewer people, making it easier to open new outlets. CIX Holdings President Soichi Yokoyama said, fuck you. Yeah. This is why robots are bad. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Because the only robots that we have now are like agents of capitalism. There's no useful ones. Have you been reading Ted Chang? Is that? That's his thing? I think so. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I, I, I, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll th. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll tha. I'll thi. I'll tha. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll been reading Ted Chang is that that's his thing? Is it? I think so. I mean, I'll find out get back to you. I think Ted Chang's main hypothesis is either maths is very bad or very good. I can't quite remember. He said it about capitalism. But it's either very bad or very good.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But what we have now is not is not AI as we think of a or know it. It's just an extension of capitalism. And they say, yeah, it's capitalism who wants to reduce costs and reduce costs by laying people off. It's not like all technology suddenly becomes benign in this world. You know, how a giant corporation's going to use this to increase their profits at our expense. So yeah. But also a rival, a movie about squids.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's right. We were talking recently, me and wife of the show, my wife, Eleanor, we're talking about like the, a lot of the weird stuff that we're seeing reports about lately with the billionaire and ruling class of, there was the stuff recently about all of the people getting together with like, you know how Elon Musk has too many kids and he doesn't know who they are. Yeah, and we're gonna do something about that starting today. Or like having, having, uh, having twins with the lady at work and all that's, with the, the, the, the, th thly, thly thly thly thly thly thly thiiii thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, thi, their their, their, their, their, their, their, the bil, the billion, the billion, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the b, the bili.. And, their, their, their, their, their, thi. We's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the're going to do something about that starting today. Or like having having a, yeah, having twins with the lady at work and all that sort of stuff. Through IVF though.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yep. So it's just the most fucked up way to cheat. That is an insane way to cheat. Yeah, but here's the thing though, are you looking at it as this dude is part of this insane point of view that th.. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the. Yeah the. thi thi thi the. the. the the the the the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. Yeah th. Yeah the. Yeah the. Yeah the. Yeah the is the. Yeah, the is the is the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the of people of this insane point of view that they have like there is a moral imperative for the super rich and looking at themselves as super intelligent. The long-termists. Yeah the better. It's extremely fucked up. Guys who watched idiocracy once and we're like, holy fuck I've got to impregnate my secretary. Yeah. I've got to come in my marketing officer by proxy.
Starting point is 00:21:49 That if you have like 10 or 11 kids or whatever and all of your kids have 10 or 11 kids and you make sure that they do that for like 10 generations that you can seed the population with your own DNA of smart people. And so there's that kind of stuff. And then there's the population with your own DNA of smart people. And so there's that kind of stuff. And then there's a solution though. And that's lawnmower at the Montessori. And then there's then there's the people who are obsessed with like uploading their consciousness into the computer. Yeah, they could do that for all, for fucking forever, for all I care. Check your brain in some silicon.
Starting point is 00:22:31 We know it's not meat. It's not meat. Yeah, you become an object at that point. Every time they try and put it into meat, the meat and meat auxiliaries, so bones, et cetera, just freaks out. Yeah, and they'll try and tell you, well, it's the same as going to sleep. That's a discontinuity in your consciousness, isn't that the same thing? And you say no, because meat.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It's the meat transfer is where it really fucked you up. I was reading a thing about the one of the guys who sold his company to PayPal years ago.. the, th. th. the, th. the, th. th. their, th. their, th. their, th. th. th. their, th. th. their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the one of the guys who sold his company to PayPal years ago for like, that was fucked up. The fucking guy, the threat about the guy who's like reduced his whatever the fuck. Oh yeah, he's trying to like, you know, reduce his age. His epigenetic age. Yes. What was it about PayPal and these freaks kind of just getting sucked into the oil because, you know, they've His epigenetic age? His epigenetic age? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What was it about PayPal and these freaks kind of just getting sucked into the oil? Because, you know, they've got Peter Teal as well, who is getting young people's blood to... I don't know. I think you just demand... What is Peter Teal... New blood? But that can't be right. So here it is. It's Brian Johnson sold his company to pay tha tha tha tha tha the tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tho tho tho tho their tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the.. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's thea. It's thea. It's, thea. It's just. It's just just just just, thea. It's just just just, thea. thea. thea. can't be right. So here it is.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's Brian Johnson sold his company to PayPal for $800 million in 2013. Since then, he's been investing millions to reduce aging. In 2021, he reduced his epigenetic age by 5.1 years in seven months, in parentheses, world record. Sure, for everything that's not real. It's not real. So there's that stuff. There's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the up up up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the up, the uploom, the uploomoloomoloomolo, the up, the uploan, the up, the up, the up, the the thoan, thoanone, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionionion, the up, the up, the up, the up, the that's not real. It's not real. It's just paying up. So there's that stuff. There's the there's the uploading your consciousness, there's the reducing your epigenetic age, there's the
Starting point is 00:24:10 ceding your seeding the world with your DNA. All of these things are about, you know, you have more money than God, but you're not going to live forever. Yeah, you can't take it with it a a a a a a a the the way it the way it the the tha th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's. the that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. the the th. the the th. the the theat. the the theat. th. theat. theating. theating. that's. that's. th. that's. th. th. th. th., you can't take it with you. It's an obsession with living forever. And I think that all of it. But the automation stuff is all part of that as well. It's all saying, oh, it's like fucking Elon Musk with, we're going to have cars that drive themselves and the fact, you know, Amazon, the factories will just work themselves and the drones will this undercurrent with all of that stuff where people like to position it as, oh it'll be so great because we'll automate everything and then we'll all have this free time. We'll all have all this
Starting point is 00:24:53 free time. But I think what's really happening is that it's like we'll automate everything and then there will just be this whole strata of humanity that kind of won't need to exist anymore. And that's called called to to to be like to be to be that that that that that th that th th that th that th th th th th that th th th th th th th th th th th to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. thus. to be to be to be to be to be toda. today to today today to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be ata of humanity that kind of won't need to exist anymore. Andrew, that's called biomass. Yeah. And we can use that to render it down. Kind of just not really people. Yeah. As soon as I get the permit to squeeze those people. Oh, we're going to be making all new kinds of drinks. This is a quote from the New York Times Deal Book Conference. Mr. Teal said, I want to publicly tell you that I'm not a vampire. So that's, I think that puts that to rest.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Okay, that's good. My I'm not a vampire t-shirt. That's what the thing they said. Good to say, that's one of the first things they say. The second thing is can I come in? You gotta say no. Of course I'm not the vampire. Can I please come in? Do you think they could go, could they go to a glory hole? Is that a? I don't think a little, I don't think any part of the body is allowed over the threshold is my understanding. Well he can receive in the glory hole.
Starting point is 00:26:08 He just can't put his dick in the glory hole. No, I think I think that it's like different. Do you think there's an implied invitation? I think that the glory hole at its essence is an open invitation scenario like no loads refused yeah nobody is denied nobody's denied the glory hole it may not be getting sucked on the other side yeah but anyone is allowed to use the glory can I come in right because then they're hearing your vampire voice yeah I just don't think if if invitations were implicit then vampires
Starting point is 00:26:44 the vampires would be going around willy-nilly through gateways and liminal spaces. As we know, that's not true, so I reckon they cannot pass the threshold of the one-year-old. Hear me out. Hear me out. Real estate scenario, someone's having an open house. The vampire can just come in, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:06 They have to see, they gotta see the real estate agent in there and they kind of go, oh, am I, am I okay to come in? Do I need to take off my shoes shortage of staff for customer facing roles in various industries according to the health, labor and welfare industry. No one wants to work. No one wants to be paid what we can pay a robot. It sounds like everyone wants to work and they're already working. The situation is...
Starting point is 00:27:44 If you got them to work less hard, you could... So forth. So redistribute. Yeah. Oh well. The situation has deteriorated since the end of last year when pandemic restrictions on dining were eased. According to a survey by Tecoku Data Bank limited, 73% of restaurants say they are short of part-time workers. Try paying people more money.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Try offering more money. Crazy. Uh, here's a little name that we, that we might know. Softbank Robotics Corporation. Huh. Uh-huh. Who's that one? How they go on? Softbank, uh, the investment fund where, um, I think the, what, the owner, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th., th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so-a, so-a, thi, thi, thi, so-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so, so, so-a, so-a, so-a, so-a, so-a, so-a, so-a, th. So, th........ So-a, th........... So-a, th.. We's, th. We's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. We's, thi. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're, ta. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. thi. try. think that what the owner or the president or the CEO or whatever has just been like
Starting point is 00:28:29 lavishing money upon various wild schemes and crypto and Yeah, the C. The CEO. Masayoshi's son a lot of losing bets this guy. Yeah, okay. This man loves giving away money. Yeah. CEO of Softbank, if you are listening, we will absolutely take sponsorship for this podcast. We will take $500 million to continue making the show. You can pay us to stop making the show. Yeah, if you want this show to stop the price tax. There is a price tax. We can be bought. Soft Bank Robotics Corp thought the rental fee of as much as 100,000 yen per month would be too high a barrier for some restaurants. But in the last six months the robot developer has seen a surge in demand. That's honestly not that much per month. Is that a thousand bucks? Yeah. Bargain. It's a deal. A bunch of dividing by a thousand heads in this.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I divide by a hundred. A hundred. Yeah. Look, not to belabor a very tired point. But does anyone else get like really fucking mad at just not being able to interact with a human, throughout a process? Is it just me? No, I call the phone and yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You can just get on the blower and sort it out. Or you can just say to someone, hey, I can't find naval oranges on the screen here. And I really thought this was going to be a dip in, dip out situation, but I've been standing here for 10 minutes because the one person who's looking after the self-serve checkouts is also The only checkout operator that it's serving people over there I don't want to stress you out. Yeah, so I'm just been standing here looking like an absolute fool Well, I'm dumb fucking robot. There's dumb robot that doesn't fucking things. Sikin shit. Fucking thick. Fucking sick of it plus depending on which major Australian supermarket chain you go to and which specific store They will have their self-serve check out shit calibrated differently
Starting point is 00:30:30 Depending on how strongly they feel about shoplifting. Yeah. Oh, yeah They got those ones now that know what color your vegetable is. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a moth lands on there and it's like a mo-oh motherfucker. All right. what have you stolen? Please bag this item before continuing, and then you put the thing in the section and it goes, whoa, there's something unexpected in there, take it out. Take it out and it's like, please bag the item. We're standing in front of the buckshot dispens. This is great gear.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We've had self-scheckouts for 15 years. I still take our own backs. I still fucking hate that. My coffee's never extra hot when I ask for an extra. That's a cunt's way to order. Who the fuck orders extra? I think I've told you about this before as well. They're from people over 75. Look, you vaporize my coffee place. Can I get a cup of steam please? Oh the steam is too hot. Ordering an extra hot baby chino. Just to try my child. He's got to learn.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He's got to learn some time. Put that baby chino in two cups please. We went to, we went to the theater last night because several months ago Elna had said oh Richard E. Grant is coming to town. Oh, famed actor Richard E. Grant. Oh okay. Evening with Richard E. Grant and I said, all right I'm gonna buy some tickets to that for your birthday because her birthday's on Sunday and so I got some tickets to there for your birthday. Because her birthday is on Sunday. And so I got some tickets for her and surprised her yesterday. We went out, had some nice drinks and food, a nice bar beforehand, went to the theater. And man, everybody in there was the oldest fucking person
Starting point is 00:32:20 on the planet. Who else is going for... Even with Richard E. Grant? Which is... I don't know. I would also go to, but like... Yeah, it's very funny. Because it's just him like telling various stories from his life or whatever, right? Yeah, he's promoting his memoir. So, um, so... which is also about his, um, his wife of 40 years years or whatever who died of cancer a couple years ago. So it's not even a funny memoir. Well, look, there's plenty of funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Okay. Lots of stories about him stalking Barbara Streisen, you know, all kinds of things. He roasted Cambrough. Good material. Yeah, he said it's like this city. No people and lots of cars. And we all went, woo, you got us. You got us. It's so right.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Richardy Grant. Can I give, can I give two thumbs down to whoever was operating the A.V. Set up that night? Because the, the material that he was going through went from like, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, because the the material that he was going through went from like you know funny anecdotes about other actors and celebrities and awards ceremonies and stuff through to like harrowing material about his his his blind drunk father putting a gun a loaded gun to his head when he was like a teenager and trying to kill him. And like, while this is happening, while he's giving this material, the projector behind him,
Starting point is 00:33:59 which has a big photo of him and a copy of his book just like changes to just bright blue yeah well that's why he's talking about his dad having a gun to the back of his head yeah searching for flying devices and then it comes up with like go into power saving mode and you see them the mouse moving around he's saying we should have had robots the robot A.V. operator instead. I don't think of my other job with robots. Tremendous. You got to automate my entire life. It was 37 minutes and we're not through the first story by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:33 This is a perfect episode. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, it saves you the book. I don't see that. Well you, okay. So you've you've got you've got you've got you've you've you've got you've you've see that. Well, you... Okay, so you've got an insane thing where you throw out stories if they sit the document from... They've got an expiry date, yeah. Because it's a comedy current events podcast, not a comedy...
Starting point is 00:34:53 Previous events. Yeah, and check out our takes on, uh, self-surfing. That's as current as it gets, baby! Quote, many companies are short of manpower but can't afford not to spend money to resolve the issue, a softbank robotics official said. Restaurant operator Skylark Holdings Co. Has been rolling out serving robots at its casual dining chain, Gusto and Shaboo shaboo eatery since last summer.
Starting point is 00:35:26 What are they serving? I believe they're serving shaboo shaboo. Oh. A thin cuts of meat. Thin cuts of meat. You don't have to tell me what shabby shabby is? Well you sound confused, motherfucker. The company plans to deploy them at 2,000 out the end of the month. 2000! That's so many! That's so many! Does this guy just make drinks? Is that all he does? He's just a bartender?
Starting point is 00:35:50 2,000 power outlets. Just a bartender. Okay. All right. Because of their requirements? Ganko, food service co, which operates in the the Kansai region uses similar robots at eight outlets. What kind of outlets Theo? You okay? He's fine. Quote, the work involved in carrying dishes to tables is of no value to customers so
Starting point is 00:36:18 robots can do the work instead, a Ganko said, completely disrespecting all of the people who've ever done service work. That's fucking bullshit. You're up against the wall. Suck my piss. What if you had a very charismatic guy who cleared your dishes away? Does nobody else in the fucking world like talking to people? They don't. I actually don't. Mostly not. I don't. I think I, you and I do. We like talking to people. Everyone else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else else the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. think you and I do. We like talking to people. Everyone else is looking for any excuse they can to avoid a person-to-person interaction in any capacity whatsoever. See, extroverts recharge their batteries. I am going to punch you in the fucking face. God, that's something about an ambervert.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I know that there's like a lot of different kinds of serveries, eateries and all that sort of thing, but like, you know, the place of... Well, I guess what I'm saying is that like, you know, not not everywhere is the kind of place where you would be expecting to say, what would you recommend to the person who works there, you know? But like, we had a lovely, uh, what do we call people in Australia? What do we call the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th recommend to the person who works there you know but like we had a we had a lovely what do we call people in Australia? Waiter? Was this person a waiter? I don't know. What did they do? Well they were kind of they were behind the bar, they were coming over and and making some drink recommendations to us, showing us the menu and the wine list, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Was it bar service? It's kind of an all-rounder. Or table service? Well, bar and table service. Matra D? Well, if they're doing table services, well, they're a waiter. Okay. Anyway, we love this person.
Starting point is 00:38:00 A way to get food to you. Yeah, I guess that's true. However, some in the industry say people should be responsible for customer service. What a wild idea. Going forward, it is likely that humans and robots will share roles to increase customer satisfaction. I won't. I won't. I'll sooner die. If you're listening to this right now, take the pledge. I will never share a role with a robot. Say it out loud. On the bus.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Turn to your wife who is next to you while you're on a long car trip and say, I will never share a role with a robot. For the record, this robot isn't even like anthropomorphic and fun. It's not funn, thu, thu, thu, th. Yeah, a bunch of pinch points. Yeah. Looks like a little garbage can. Have it already mixed. Have it already mixed. Have it pre-mixed. Put it in a jug. Pathetic. I would rather they just had a series of vending machines in the restaurant. You know? Why can the vending machine make me this? Don't have a fucking robot, just open an automat. Or just a big fridge. Don't pretend. Just don't pretend, you know? Don't be like this is going to replace the experience of just being in a space inhabited by humans.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Just put vending machines in there if that's your deal. Unless fucking Robbie the robot is making my drink and he's making sort of rye robot comments while he's doing it. Yeah, I want little robot like little puns, little jokes. Yeah, he does the thing. How many conversations are going to be programmed to have real? Yeah. Yeah. So while we're on the topic of robots, I did some, a little bit of robot research today I read
Starting point is 00:39:48 a report from the Australian Trade and Investment Commission titled Robotics Autonomous Systems and AI, Australian Defense Industry Report and Matrix. So this is sort of a a high-level overview of quote Australia's domestic expertise in RASAI, which was that thing that I said before. Robotics, Autonomous Systems and AI identifies Australian companies that have export-ready RAS AI capabilities and fast-evolving expertise.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Now, largely, I wanted to read this, because I'm gonna read you some company names in their descriptions because they are so bizarrely sinister sounding. They tickle me a little bit. But first, here's a little bit of an overview of RASAI in Australia. Commercial research in Australia is helping to advance the capabilities of RASAI platforms. This includes advances in the basic parameters of autonomous platforms, size, weight, power and cost, or swap C, as we call it in the business. Don't like that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 These advances mean that domestic RASAI capabilities are helping to accelerate the adoption of autonomous systems in Australia's military forces. Australia's defence industries recognise the potential for RASAI to be integrated with emerging technologies, in particular hypersonic vehicles, additive manufacturing and neural interfaces. Yeah. Yeah. What's a hypersonic vehicle?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Well, that's a vehicle that can travel fast in the speed of sound. No, not just faster. Way faster. Way faster than like a Scoda Octavia? I have to believe. I didn't actually look into what additive manufacturing is. Do you have any idea, Theo? No? Well, we'll just leave that one of your street.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I think that's what you get when you squeeze the rats hard enough. Yeah. Get a little something to put in there, you know? The Australian Department of Defense is exploring the potential of integrating RASAI technologies to enhance the warfighting capabilities of the ADF. These range in type from perception and control system attacks to information warfare and platform destruction. Ben, just for the record, additive manufacturing is 3D printing.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Oh, that makes sense. Okay. The next generation of RAS AI platforms will include advanced vision-based AI and advanced swarming-enabled systems. Developing these technologies will enable robotics and autonomous systems to deliver persistent wide-area operations on land in the air and at sea. Yeah, they will. I mean first of all, no they're not. Oh it won't.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Oh, they will though. They shouldn't be doing that. But they will. Yeah. And then they're going to lose control of them and then they're gonna come for man. Yep, before you know it it's nerve stapling time. Yeah we shouldn't I learn to use tools. No that was a mistake. The hammer was a mistake. That's the crow's business. That's crow's business. Australian companies are helping to create these future platforms. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:02 The Australian companies described in this matrix, the matrix is just sort of a chart. Yeah, table or something. Yeah. They've developed new RAS AI capabilities in recent years across multiple domains. They are dynamic and enterprising. They are looking for opportunities to partner with global defense companies to augment potential and create game game changing capabilities. So let's... So that mean they're making the murder drones with like agile methodology? defense companies to augment potential and create game changing capabilities. So let's... Does that mean they're making the murder drones with like agile methodology?
Starting point is 00:43:29 Oh, I'm so glad you asked specifically that question. Hey, just for the record, the Budapestive podcast is also looking for opportunities to partner with global defense companies. So, and we are dynamic and enterprising also. I'm pretty dynamic. We're all going to volunteer to have the Havana Ray tested on us. Oh, my head hurts so bad. I'm sweeping.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I don't know what's happening to me. It's $20,000, please. Here are some of the, uh, the Australian companies working in this space. We have Department 13. Fuck off. That sounds good right? That sounds weird. Majestic 12. I got MJ 12 on it. Department 13 is an innovative Australian drone technology company delivering the complete ecosystem of turnkey unmanned aerial systems and counter unmanned aerial systems, so they're buttering their bread on both sides, and solutions to defence government,
Starting point is 00:44:34 critical infrastructure proponents and enterprises around the globe. Seemlessly integrating into security and operating procedures, Department 13, systems and Technology observes drones entering monitored areas, provides instant intelligence 24-7, and proactively protects locations, assets and people, transforming your operations and innovating autonomous workforces. One of the, um, one of the, like, splash images on their website was a guy pointing a big, weird gun at a drone. So, sounds like they got some cool stuff going on. Well, I mean, that sort of stuff's to be encouraged, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Well, yeah, we will need some anti-drone technology. It's a shame it's being made by the drone people. It seems like they'll always be able to get one up on themselves. Next company I've got here is K-Tron. CAETR-TR-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-N, all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-o-o-I, th-I, th-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-i, th-in, tho-a-a-o, tho-a-s, thE-T-R-O-N, all caps. An electronics, robotics and automation company situated in Brisbane, Australia. At K-Tron we pride ourselves in creating high-quality products with cutting-edge technology, combining novel, interwoven hardware, software solutions. Our team consists of hardware, software and robotics experts.
Starting point is 00:45:42 These engineers bring a diverse background of industry experience from companies in defense, medical and aerospace sectors as well as research experience from groups such as the Australian Center for Robotic Vision. Hmm. You don't need to give them eyes. Don't do that. Yeah, don't work on that. Just leave them with like Game Boy Camera Vision. I think that's enough for them to have like 16 by 16 black and white pixels. Yeah. I think maybe like, you know the, you know the, the predators like heat spectrum vision? Yeah. I think that, that level of fidelity I would be happy with. You want to be able to keep tricking them with mud if needs be. Yeah, yeah, or like maybeuNet. Quote, our people create world-leading trusted cyber and spectrum security technology solutions that safeguard our customers' interests. ConsuNet's engineering capability uses international
Starting point is 00:46:37 standards, agile methodology best practice and industry-leading tools, the proven in-service operational capability delivery and sustainment track record. You're talking rubbish. Is it just words? You've just thrown some words together. Except all these words are for like drone strikes. They're describing drone strikes.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah, you could just say that with two words. Plus I think they've already got drones and drone strikes. I've been doing that for a while. They're all waterfall, whereas these guys are doing it on Agile. I'm just going to throw it out there, if anything, I think maybe we've already got too many drone strikes. It's kind of naysays and it's not going to breed innovation in Australia's tech industry. Well you guys might need maybe to look into our next company, Drone Shield.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Dron Shield provides multi-domain, multi-mission solutions from comprehensive counter-U-XS solutions. So, Cuxus solutions. Cuxus solutions. Which I believe is unmanned, whatever, so land sea or air type. So it's for fighting robots. Okay. Yeah, and we're going to fight them with... Well, they're going to use...
Starting point is 00:47:53 Other robots, I think. Other robots. AI-based sensor fusion and signal processing, I believe. So, the theory is we get the robots to fight the robots, and then we all go to brunch? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if if if if if if if if if if if the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they thi. thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- th. thi- thi- th. thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi-s thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. Weaa-s. Wea-s. Wea-a'-a'-s. Wea'-a'-a'-a'-a-a-s. So-a-a-s. thi-s get the robots to fight the robots and then we all go to brunch. Yeah. Yeah. If you were better at anti-robot fighting, we'd be at brunch right now. Yeah. It's what my t-shirt says. I'm just gonna power through these names here, I think, because the rest of it is just buzzwords. Saber astronautics. Uh-huh. Eclipse logistics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Turbine machine genes. They're actually a subsidiary of evolving machine intelligence. Fuck off. Yeah. Every single one of these is the corporation from fear. Yeah. Yes. They invented ghosts somehow.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And then the last one I have on my list is Textron Systems. Now, I don't actually have a quote on them because if you go to their website, Google Chrome does that, you can't come here because they don't have a HTTPS certificate. And if you push through it, you get a picture of a small aircraft with the words restricted access written in all caps papyrus. That's how you know you can trust them with your technology solutions. Well, that's right, because they're secure. I couldn't get through.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I have no idea what tex-drawn systems do. Can't be good. Effective. But it's good to know that Australia is, you know, competing in the French to create a drone technology instead. Shit. It's extremely Islamophobic, which is exactly what we were after. Hi everybody, it's me. It's Theo. Now I guarantee you I'm more afraid of recording this promo than you are of listening to it so hear me out.
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Starting point is 00:52:12 so last week we had friend of the show Jah Hennessy of the downround podcast on to fill in for Ben who said that he was quote catching up on a lot of jacking off and quote that's right I went to Hobart to jack off how was it it was great thank you very nice lovely city and one of the stories that we that we covered in there was the the rising prominence of Greece theft in the United States of America and the thea and we were pretty to the to the thea'a' the the the the the the the the the the the the the theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat the. to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the. the. the. the the the. the. the. the the. the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. the. to to to the. to to to. the stories that we covered in there was the rising prominence of Greece theft in the United States of America. And we were pretty perplexed by it as a style.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, I'd say we actually spent a lot of time minimizing the issue as well. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to act like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah, I did. And I implored anybody who knew anything about Greece theft to write into the show. Lo and behold, a letter has appeared from listener Zane who says Hello, Punta Vista. In episode 274, Turtles on the blockchain, y'all discussed the rise in
Starting point is 00:53:20 Greece heists across America. While I'm sure I am not the truest example of an average Greece thief, I did steal a lot of Greece in 2012 and 2013, so I thought I'd write in. Oh my god, I'm always amazed by when we asked someone to write in if you've ever done this. Yeah. Directly after graduating high school, I joined a deeply ramshackled traveling circus, living and operating out of a school bus converted to run off kitchen grease. What a wonderful, wonderful start to the story. Please go on. We all have things happening in our lives, you know? We're all, we're all joining our own circus every day.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Our usual MO for acquiring the grease was as follows. Upon arriving in a new town we would draw straws and the losers would be sent out with a hand-cranked pump and several empty kitty litter jugs to the alleyways behind Chinese restaurants. We would open up the usually unlocked grease dumpster and siphon our fill under cover of night. The most crucial job during our grease heists was monitoring the depth of the pump. As for our purposes, the only viable grease was suspended between two layers of non-viable grease. A lesson hard earned.
Starting point is 00:54:51 You know what they say? Viable grease is thicker than and less thin, less thick than non-viable grease. The upper of which was a watery, bubbly substance which didn't make the bus go, and the lower of which was a boggy, semi-solid layer of rancid, fatty sediment, which I can still smell today if I think about it hard enough. We would target primarily middle to upper tier Chinese restaurants, as in our experience their grease bins had the most favorable ratios of these three layers. Hmm, smart. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:31 After filling four to five kitty litter containers with mostly usable grease, we would lug our hole back to the bus and filter the grease through a series of three 55-gallon drums and increasingly fine filters, the first of which was just an old sock. All of the grease was stored and filtered inside the bus where all of us slept. It stank like fried death and everything felt slippery and sticky all the time. After the filtration process was complete, we'd pour the grease into the gas tank and the whole bus would stink worse. I don't think this is a good operation. Value to like your
Starting point is 00:56:10 experience. Yeah, I mean you want to start spending money willy-nilly Lucy on better grease and so I've never run a traveling circus so maybe I don't what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah, so it's a real kind of, if you've got a better idea, I'd like to hear it, sort of operation. Yeah, otherwise man the pump. That's right. Keep a look out, you know? I eventually left because the close-up magician kept getting too drunk and threatening to kill me. Thanks, Zane. Thanks, Zane.
Starting point is 00:56:44 What a wonderful word-up. Thanks, Zane. It's just so nice to get a little window into other people's lives, isn't it? This feels so much closer to what my intuition for the crime was, instead of the insane thing that I think the article and... Like the grease laundering syndicates. Yeah, that there's a that there's a grease laundering syndicate and then or and they're yeah getting
Starting point is 00:57:11 low-level go on get all your thing to make like biofuel precursor yeah yeah and you can still get pregnant. That's right. It does seem like the people whose grease it was or is, don't give a fuck who takes it away, right? Like that's not. No, no, they get paid for it. They get paid for it. That was the part that was surprised with me.
Starting point is 00:57:42 We were reading. I don't know if everyone does, right? Well, yeah, the indication was that the people who come that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the people who that that that that that that that that that that that that the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people who the people who the people who come the people who come the people who come the people who come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the people whothat was surprised with me. We were rating. I don't know if everyone does, right? Well, yeah, the indication was that the people who come and take it away pay you a fee because they then get to turn it into something which gets on sold as biofuel. Yeah, I mean, I guess if you had to pay someone to take your grease away, people would just be pouring it down the sink instead putting it in a grease trap you know really pouring it pour oil down the sink has your olive oil gone off where else you gonna put it so as olive oil done what all of all goes off I don't think that's true I don't think that's true most oil goes rancid guys can't be true come on
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Starting point is 00:58:49 no deaths but potentially some joke segment haven't made a ruling on that one yet. I would like to introduce you guys to something called the clipping report. Bang, bang, bang. Yeah, and it'll be something like that. This is the segment for where someone in America has accidentally clipped themselves with a gun. With a bullet from a gun. Which I'm starting to think happens a lot. Yeah. This is from the last seven days. Here we go. A 21-year-old in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, accidentally shot himself in the foot in his car, quote, when a gun he was carrying went off due to his negligence. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yep. Mm-hmm. A high school student in Clinton, Indiana was taken a hospital with, notry to clarify. You could have clipped somebody else as well, accidentally. Okay. A high school student in Clinton, Indiana was taken a hospital with quote, non-life-threatening injuries after an Indiana Sheriff's Deputy's gun quote, accidentally went off while the deputy was teaching a law enforcement class.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Hell yes. Oh my God. Whoopsy, dupsy. Yeah. I feel like that one's a, this is the one thing we didn't want to happen to to to to to to to to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to one thing we didn't want to happen all by itself. Yeah. Well, in fairness, if the law enforcement lesson that he was teaching was you could be shot by a cop at any given moment.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Effective. Class taught. A 43 year old man driving near Detroit Metro Airport accidentally shot himself in the thigh when he shifted and the pistol that he had tucked into with a waistband the waist waist band waist band waist band waist band waist band waist band waist band the waist band the waist band the waist band the waist band the waist band the waist band the waist band the waistband the waistband the thigh when he shifted and the pistol that he had tucked into with a waistband of his pants discharged? I, may I interrupt for a moment Ben? I'll allow it, but this better be going somewhere. To note that when we, when we did a story recently, we did a story which was about the, the, uh, the guy running around in the hallway at a school? picking his kid up from basketball and doing a bit a a the the the the the the the the the th a th a th a tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thorou thorou thorou th thorou th tho thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thi. I thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the, the, the, the, the, the, thin thin the, thin the thi the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, running around in the hallway to school.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Picking his kid up from basketball and doing a bit of horseplay with another kid and his loaded gun fell out of his pants and shot himself in the leg several feet away from this other person's kid and all the other fucking kids. And I said, wouldn't you like have the safety on? And we were... I mean, you're fucked up. Yeah, and we were immediately delused with correspondence from people saying, oh, don't worry, there's lots and lots of handguns that don't have a safety. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:01:18 You can say a certain series of words and you will awaken our like sleeper cell gun nut listeners. We're like, well, actually, the standard... of words and you will awaken our like sleeper cell gun nut listeners. We're like well actually the standard. Hey, very strange. I only know about guns from TV. I just thought they had a safety. Yeah, that was that was kind of my assumption that you just you just have to have a safety like if it didn't, I probably wouldn't tuck it into my waistband
Starting point is 01:01:45 myself. While you were driving your car. Yeah. Yeah. I mean there are, there are a gun, different gun designs that change how much you really need a crossbolt safety. Do I just be one of the gun nuts that we awakened? Are you one of the sleepers else? No, actually. I, I like to watch forgotten weapons on YouTube and Caitlin kind of looks at it like it's a worrying new aspect of my personality. Instead it's a worrying aspect of your personality. It's been there the whole time. Yeah. Um, interesting mechanically. Mm-hmm. Sorry, so this, this was a post on our discord from listener, Medo-Lark Lemmonist.
Starting point is 01:02:28 When I had said, I just kind of assumed that pistols all had safeties. They said, oh my dear sweet Andrew, you assume that all guns have safeties. Modern striker fired pistols like the ubiquitous Glock don't have conventional safeties. They are double-action only firearms, which means each time you pull the trigger, you are cocking and firing the weapon. This results in a long, several millimeters longer than... This results in a long, several millimeters longer than their single action thin's, and hefty seven pounds of force.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Trigger pulled, it should make misfires almost impossible. But people hate safety and have bad judgment. There's a thriving cottage industry built around defeating these safety measures and making an already dangerous weapon into something that projects a field around it that is actively hostile to life like uranium or a big that of mustard gas. Yeah. A 30-year-old man in Gurney, Illinois accidentally shot himself in the thigh while trying to clear a round from the chamber of a pistol. I'm really picturing him like looking down the barrel of the gun as he pokes a big pipe cleaner in there. Yeah, still in there.
Starting point is 01:03:35 In three separate incidents, on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday of last weekend, three different Nebraska deer hunters were accidentally shot by other hunters. Fuck it's take. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. And finally, a 23-year-old man in Shelburne, New Hampshire accidentally shot himself in the leg while target shooting. Well, you missed. Yeah.
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