Boonta Vista - EPISODE 281: You Don’t Have To Be A Carcass Guy To Work Here But It Helps (with Phoebe Roy)

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

Lucy, Theo and Andrew are joined by the inimitable Phoebe Roy of 10k Posts and Masters of our Domain to discuss: A few hundred unexpected deer carcasses, two tons of cocaine revealed by a bomb threat, on-the-ground reporting from Dutch New Years, and not getting into a robot car. *** Listen to 10k Posts: https://tenthousandposts.podbean.com/ Listen to Masters of our Domain: https://domainmasterspod.podbean.com/ *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: shop.boontavista.com/ Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Hello and welcome to Bente Vista episode 281. I'm Theo and I'm a train. No, hang on, sorry, wrong, wrong intro. Let me try again. Welcome to Buonto Vista episode 281. I'm Theo and I'm in train. Yeah, that's right. You may know me as Pat Wanaher. Yep, that's right.

You may know me as Pat Wanaher. I'm the man with the golden voice of the, the spiky hair from the band Train. I'm born in February 28, 1969, and American musicians, singer and songwriter. I'm the sole constant member of the band Train. So that's pretty cool for me. I'm here with the rest of train. First up, who else? But Jerry Becker on keyboards rhythm guitar and backing vocals from 2008 to present. It's Lucy. Hell yeah, brother. I love being in the band train.

Hey, Sol System. I love our hit drops of Jupiter. This is going to be the most unsubbed episode of all time. Joining me as always, flicking that bass. He's slamming it. He's looking good while he does it. It's Hecta Manalto, I should notice, Hecta Maldonado, on bass and backing vocals since 2009, it's Andrew. How are you, Andrew? Hola, sometimes I use a pick and sometimes I use my fingers. Yeah, slapping that. You don't like to get sexy with it.

Yeah. Clan bass. It's the language of love. Slend of that bass. Let's grind through this. And of course, joining us from England as always to lend her sultry vocals. To the backing tracks, it's Nikita Houston, otherwise known as Phoebe. Hey! I'm good. I'm good. My favorite song we've ever done is a Hey, otherwise known as Phoebe. Hey, I'm good. My favorite song we've ever done is a Hey Soul Sister, so...

Yeah. I don't know why... I don't know why I'm having to listen to drops of Jeep's or which, frankly, at this point... Don't. Don't. I don't want to hear that song at all in my life. Sorry, I was in so much of a hurry to do this. I didn't actually give you a proper intro, Phoebe. How do people know you? Hi. I think we've all had a spot on Master of our domain. Yeah, you have.

You have. Episode about Weekly Seinfeld episodes. Yep, you may also know me from 10,000 posts the podcast about how everything is posting. It is. It is. Correct. Or not, depends. Listen to the show. It depends on how you post. We will be making, we will be making the final judgment, June. It is. Correct. or. to not. to the show, find out. We will be making, we will be making the final judgment, June, June this year. Okay, perfect. I know about you guys, but I've kind of got a dip in, dip out relationship with posting at the moment, given that Twitter is so terrible. Like, for example, you can just hop on there and reply to any Graham-Lynum tweet with

your wife left you, mute the replies, and just... And you've had a fun time. You back out of there. Yeah. You've enjoyed yourself. It's asymmetrical warfare because he reads them. Yeah, he does. He doesn't have anything else to do at the moment.

No, because his wife left him. Real, British excellence, that guy. Yeah. Just, he's still, it's pretty wild that he's still doing it. He's still doing it. Hmm. Yep. In all scrupulous, fairness to Linnehan, not British.

I think that should be... Oh, is he Irish? Is he Irish? He would not, he would not care to be called British. He seems so British, like in spirit, in Seoul. It says Norwich on his thing, which is in England. It, but that may well be where he lives, but he definitely is Irish, I promise you. I'm not like, I'm not kind of like falsifying his Irishness for like,

for kind of villainous English reasons, so that's not what I'm doing. Each of his eyes differently and noting them down. Got that DNA test, that 23 and me on Lina Hens. Is he, is he, is... He's got the divorce gene. Oh, he really does. I put on an episode of Black Books the other day and his name came up and I went, yeah, oh.

And I put my fingers over my nose and I went, Stinky. Yeah. So he's really... I don't know. I think it's kind of impressive that Dylan Moran wrote the whole of black books by himself. Like that's, it's a, it remains a classic sitcom and it's a hard thing to write by yourself and that's probably why he's always talking about his imaginary friend that he wrote it with. To like make it easier. And Dylan Moran, still cool some here. Good on him. What do you think a train show smells like?

Pachuli, like, we should know. I was actually just looking at Pat Monahan's IMDB trivia section? He's so old. He was old when they, I don't know if he was old. He was old when they broke through with their album in like the 90s or whatever it was. Just looking at... I don't know if he was. He would have been in his 20s. No, that doesn't make sense because the 90s were about 10, 15 years ago. One or two. Not like, like, like five at most. Five. Yeah, five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90 the 90. the the the the the the the the the 90. the 90. the 90. the 90. the 90. the 90. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi thi the thi thi th years ago, one or two, like not like five,

five at most. Five, yeah, five. Is there a smell associated with removing your wedding ring before you go out for a night? Like the place where the metals made content with your skin? Just smelling like too much cologne on like a white shirt, it was like the top button undone, on a guy that does not look good in it. Oh man, he should not be wearing that suit vest with jeans.

Okay. It was a look. You never wore a vest? Come on, Thea. Did you wear a vest? No, fuck no. I look I've done many terrible awful things in my life but I was never a vest guy. I've definitely worn a waistcoat, you know? Like in a fancy place or like over your white tea shirt? Yeah like the bad way. I definitely done with the bad style. Okay. The bad style of doing that, you know? Oh boy, the smell of Patchouli, sweet, Lynx body spray up and down the exposed chest of Pat Monahan. Delicious.

You could really describe that as a smell that makes you go, hmm. Insert the theme song that me or Theo still hasn't done. Yep, yep, I've got a real good one. Yep, we've both, we've both really got the race. We got separate versions of that sketched out. Better hurry out. And either of us have done it yet. But great news for there's so many segments that have tunes already on this show. You are spoiled for little ditties and stuff, so... That's true. Don't complain.

And then you got ditties to look forward to as well. That's right. Whenever anyone gets around to them. Theo, you were just saying, I think, before we started, that there was a story blood and guts that had fallen out of a vehicle on various roads in a town in the states and it got to the end of the story and it just didn't explain where it had come from. And the council is like yeah we checked it out and it turns out it's not the

bad kind of meat. They said oh it's just a truck with a whole in it no harm no foul you know so great news for you to the different story here, from the Fort Smith Times Record in Arkansas, piles of deer carcasses and bones dumped on Johnson County Arkansas land. They've got to stop doing this. We're doing out there guys. We're not repeating stories here because we've previously also had the pile of pigs dubbed outside the rendering plant. Pig carcasses. Yeah, that one I think you could track a pretty, pretty, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tiarcasses, the the tiarcasses, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles of tiarsarsars, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, piles, pi cars cars cars cars cars cars cicaars cicaars cicaars cicaars ciarcars ciarcases, pi tie, pi tie, pi tiears ciarcases, pi. piles, tiarsearsearsearsearsearsearsearsearsears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piears, piles of the the the the t pigs dubbed outside the rendering plant. Pig carcasses, deer carcasses.

That one I think you could track a pretty straight line. Where they came from, yeah. Yeah, where they're destined to. But go on, Andrew. Hundreds of white-tailed deer carcasses. It's so many, right off that. That's like a whole herd. And they're the cute ones with the little white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white tale tale tale tale tale tale tale t whole herd. And they're the cute ones.

With a little white tail? Oh. Yeah. Hundreds of white-tailed deer carcasses and bones were found on private Johnson County land and Sheriff's deputies and state wildlife officers cited a man for illegal dumping. The grizzly discovery by the landowner that caused a putrid stench who was investigated by the Johnson County Sheriff's Office in Arkansas Gaming Fish Commission. Just a bunch of guys walk around sniffing. They're problems you can't dump a pile of... How many deer carcasses? Hundreds? Hundreds.

I guess between like a hundred and five hundred. Yeah, right. Look, we're going to get to the actual number and that's a great guess. It's a really, it's a really grizzly version of the like jelly beans in the jar at the fair, you know? Yeah, they should have run a competition. Look at this, look at this stinking pile over here. How many white-tail carcasses do you think are in there? And so their problem is that he was dumping them illegally?

I guess that's one of the problem. You can have your deer pile but you can't put it here? That's issue one. That's issue one. Issue number one. I think it sounds very obviously like we're seeing the kind of the after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after after the issue. I mean I think it sounds very obviously like we're seeing the kind of the after effects of some turf warfare like amongst like the wolf mafia. Okay. And this guy's just a Patsy at the end. Yeah maybe like he's just the he's just the bag man. I don't I fail to see why the bag man should have to answer for the crimes of the wolf mob.

Yeah, but also he's not rolling over. He hasn't given up the wolves. I think the wolf mafia will pay him for the inconvenience. They will compensate him for having to pay that fine. Yeah, probably in the form of deer carcasses. They'll probably give him some more... Yeah, so that's the problem with dealing with the wolf mafia. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi's not thi he's not he's not he's not he's not he's not also also also also also not he's not he he he he he he he he he he heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing heing he's not he's not he's not he he he he he he he he he he he th also not th also not th th th also not thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi tho tho thoo the thooooooo the thooooo the thoooooooo the thoooo tho tho tho that fine. Probably in the form of deer carcasses. They'll probably give him some more. Yeah, so that's the problem with dealing with the Wolf Mafia. They can't really conceive of even like just kind of basic barter systems. So they pay you in what they think they think they would like. So you do get paid in in just a lot of carcasses. Because that's what they would prefer to be paid in themselves. Yeah and if you're into carcasses it's great

news but if you're not gonna shit out a lot. Yeah yeah it's not so good. Yeah you got to be a carcass guy to work with the wolf. Because you are getting paid in carcassies. You will be getting made in carcasses, yeah. Illegally dumping deer carcasses can spread chronic waste disease, a commissioned spokesman reports. None of the remains had been buried properly when found, and the man accused of dumping them did not have permission, law officers allege.

The Sheriff's Office responded to a report about the dumping of hundreds of deer carcasses, bones and guts on January 4th. Bupeils of guts. Yeah. So not even like a New Year tree. No. That's over the boundary of New Year celebration. He's also showing a great amount of flexibility, I think,

for what it is that he is going to dump, because he hasn't just, it's not just carcasses. You've got a pile of guts, bones there, it's gonna dump it all. Maybe this is the Wolf Mafia version of like getting rid of all your body, bottles after the big New Year's Party. Yeah, well that was a wild one. Yeah, wake up and look, oh, I can't even look at those intestines. Like nodding to your neighbors over the bins like, yeah. Sorry. Can I put some

of these in your bin? I've got three. So Dennis R. Daniel of Clarksville was cited by the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Wildlife Officer with littering of carcasses, said Commission spokesman Keith Stevens in Little Rock. Daniel had told a deer processor and taxidermist that he was going to dispose of the carcasses and bones legally. Wink. But instead, about 350 carcasses were dumped along with bones and hides. Huh. How do you get to be a deer processor? You've got to have a calling for that, right? You can't, no one falls into being a deer processor. That's all you need, you need a truck and a dream in your heart. Dream optional.

Like, what do we... What do we think a deer processor is doing? Are they taking all the good meat off the deer, skinning it? Because you can eat it, right? Yeah. Have some venison. You guys had venison? Yeah. I reckon I have.

You know I miss so much. I had it once on Christmas Day in Austria. It was a very fancy thing to do. It's quite nice. I think I've only had it in Eastern Europe, so that makes sense. Yeah. I have found a interactive map where you can find your local deer processor. Oh. Oh. So that's something. It's good to know. Yeah.

So if anyone needs to process a deer, then just look up this map. Let's get this thing processed. I've been meaning to do mine, but I probably should just pay an expert at this point. Take it off my hands. Yeah, yeah. Well, be careful though. Check that they've got accreditation, because some of them will say that they're going to process it for you. And they'll dump it. And then they'll just dump it all out of the truck.

You know how you got those big plastic tubs of deer's that you just take from house you moved it from the last house. I will. I will. If you're gonna do something with the guts, that's fine. They don't make those guts anymore. What if I need, what if I need the guts to the future at some point, you know? What if I need the guts, the guts, to the future at some point, you know? I'll keep them in the the the gn't the gn't the gn't the gn't their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. tho. thoomk. thoomkoomkoomkoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomkets, thoomk. thoomk. thoomk. thoomk. thoomk. thoomk. thoomk... Ita. It's. It's.guu.gu.gu.gu. It.gu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. the. tha. the. the. the. the. thea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. to some point? I'll keep him in the garage. You

won't even have to look at them. You won't even know they're there. There'll be in the garage with the, with the, with that kind of hot, like one ski and the little jars of rusty nails. That's what, that's where I'm going to keep my dear guts. I actually ran out of rusty nails the other day. I had to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that th that that that that that that that that the the the that that that the the the the the the the they they they they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they'll they'll they'll they'll that that that that that that that that that that that that that the. I the. I the. I theeea the. I theea thee. I the. I the the. I the go and get some more. Should have kept him. Should have kept him. My dad's got... My dad's got a very, a very set up garage workshop type area, you know, like the sort of racks with all the little draws in them for all your different kinds on like screws and rivets and everything. I'm just kind of picture, well he's got like, you know, a lot of that. And then he's got the the the the the, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, th. My, my, th. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, the, the, my, the, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, the, my, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tod, tod, tod, today, today, th. th. th. that, th. th I'm just kind of picturing, well he's got like, you know, a lot of that. And then he's got like big wall mounted steel racks that he's made with like big,

you know, like the big black storage tubs that you can just slide out and everything. And now I'm just picturing all of those, including all of the little containers. Just full of the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little the little thuck of thuck of the little containers. Just full of guts and bones. Oh, that's my little knuckles tray. When I want some deer knuckles. They don't have knuckles. They got fucking hooves. What are you talking about? It's where you keep your dear relics for like,

for followers of dear Jesus and the other dear saints. Yeah, or if you want the, those go for hundreds. Yeah, if you want the colts who are afraid of deer knickknacks to stop stealing things from your garage. The landowner called the Sheriff's Department first, Stephen said, Daniel faces a $1,000 fine and in order to clean up the dead deer in its parts. The decomposing carcasses appeared to have been dumped sometime after the beginning of the fall deer season, Stephen said. So just a whole bunch of rotten meat and bones there, I guess.

Do you think, we were discussing on a recent episode the soft plastics recycling scandal in Australia. So this is a similar, he's a red cycle day. Yeah, I'm wondering if this is a thing where it's this guy's job to pick up all the guts and carcasses and dispose of them legally. But he was like, this is actually kind of a pain in my ass. So I think I'm just going to pop open the tailgate on the truck and just kind of of, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thoing, thoing, throwne, throwne, throwne, thrushe, thrushes, thrushed, thrushe, the thrushes, thr-I, the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the thu, thu, thu, thu, the thu, the the th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, gonna pop open the tailgate on the truck and just kind of you know broom the whole wet pile just out into this field. Also I think he's proven that he's not to be trusted to dispose of deer carcasses so for them to go like oh and by the way you have to dispose of them that's what he was already doing he tried his version. It's like oh for sure! For to to to to to to to the to the to to the the to the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. toooooooooooo. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tell. tell. tell. tell. the the the the the the the already doing. He tried his version. He's like, oh for sure, this time. For sure.

How do you legally dispose of a deer carcass? Which ones, which one's the national park with the number one greater than this one? Because I need directions away from it to not go and dump deer carcasses there? Uh, the landowners stated... Tell me where I'm not supposed to be dumping them, and so I know, so I know for sure, otherwise I won't know. Tell me where I'm definitely not meant to be dumping them because you guys don't check there. What are the places you guys don't look for those?

Because I definitely won't put it anywhere like that. The landowner stated he found, quote, hundreds of deer carcasses as well as other assorted animal bones and guts on the same land. Assorted animal bones and guts. Yacky. Yuck-y. Viscerany, maybe. Hmm. The Johnson County Sheriff's Office posted photos from the landowner.

Quote, here are some pictures of some piles of animal remains for your viewing pleasure. Sorry, this is the caption on the post. Here are some pictures of some piles of animal remains for your viewing pleasure. You will have to use your imagination on what the smell is like. I'm good. I'm actually on what the smell is like. I'm good. I'm actually good on the pictures as well. Yeah, I don't want to see that if that's all right. Yeah, I'm glad Ben has not attached the mountains of viscera post here.

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More than 2,400 kilograms of cocaine found after false bomb threat on MSC Lorena. More than 2,400 kilograms of cocaine was found on the container ship MSC Lorena which was forced to dock in Vlissingen in late December after a bomb threat that later turned out to be a false alarm. Oopsie, whoopsy. Oopsy. Quoops. Quote, the drugs were found in a container with a deckload of cocoa. The Antwerp Prosecutor's Office said. The bomb threat was received by Belgian police on December 22nd when the container ship

was off the coast of Lysingen. The ship was then forced to anchor for a week. After nothing was found through investigations, the ship was able to dock in the port of Ant of of of of of of of Ant of to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the their of their their through investigations, the ship was able to dock in the port of Antwerp on December 29th to unload its cargo. You've got to feel pretty silly if you're the Belgian police at this point. Yeah. You've done a pretty bad job of looking through the boat if you like, if you didn't lift up the corner of the tablecloth that had 2,400 kilos of cocaine underneath it. There's a lot of cocaine as well. You could trip over it for sure. Yeah.

So Phoebe, you're like, so you're in London, that's right, and the Dutch are just over there. Yeah, they're a little too close for comfort. They might even be in London. You might even come across them in your daily travels. I have I have a I have a Dutch friend. And do you still treat them normally? I try to. That is so great. I try to. I try to. She's um. She she she tries very hard to behave normally. She really does and we have to and we have to give her props for that. Good I know. So a little bit ago I was I was talking to give her props for that. Good honor. So a little bit ago, I was talking, I was talking to her about how unpleasant it had been going for a walk at a busy time of day

when my sciatica had flared up, and I wasn't walking very quickly, and was kind of hobbling along, and got a sort of brief kind of window into what it must be like to have limited mobility, and how kind of extremely, I to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I'm, I'm, I was, I was, I was kind, to, to, to, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe..e.eck, toeck, toeck, toeck.a, toe.a, toe.a, toe.a, toe.a, toe.a, toe.a, toa, toa, toa, toa, toe.a, toe.a, toe.a, what it must be like to have to have limited mobility and how kind of extremely unpleasant and vulnerable it makes you feel and and about how like people were like kind of like pushing it like pushing into me and all that kind of thing and she was like oh thrown. She and she was like oh okay I kind, I kind of know what you mean. I'm just finding the exact words.

So she says to me, no, no, no, people are, people are lump. I don't know what that is in English. There isn't a good translation. So I said, can you give me a vague idea of what this means? Just a vague one. And so she sends me a voice note saying something along the lines of, you know, when, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and she, thi, and she, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, and she, thi, just a vague one. And so she sends me a voice note saying something along the lines of, you know, when people are just just very kind of wrapped up in themselves and they don't really know what's what's happening around them and so they end up kind of behaving in like a bit of an antisocial way.

And I was like, okay, so that's not really what I mean. It was like more kind of aggressive. It was more people like deliberately trying to kind of Trying to kind of like shove me out of the way because they felt I was walking too slowly And she said, oh yes, umbershuffed So now I'm not talking to her because of that because of that that happened to me because of what she did I like I like the sort of implication here that what's happening is a you? th th. that?????? th. that? that? that. th, th, that's that's th, that's that's that's th, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, that's that's th's th's that's that's that's that's that's that's thoes the' the' the' the' the' the the's the's the's the's th. th. th. that's th. that's that's that's that's th. that's th. that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that that happened to me because of what she did. I like the sort of implication here that that what's happening is a you problem? You know? She's kind of like, oh I see what your problem is, right. I see why everybody hates you. It's because they are either lump or they're ombershift. Yeah, the two genders. Yeah. I love that in Dutch there are two separate untranslatable words for people being that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is is that's is that's is is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their genders. Yeah. I love that in Dutch there are two

separate untranslatable words for people being unable to behave themselves while walking down a path. I think that's I think that's very Dutch. That feels very Dutch to me. I think they should just behave themselves when they're walking down paths and they won't need so many words. Yeah, it's because It's because they're just used to clopping along the flat edges. Yeah. And they're clubs. And so on. You can hear them coming if they try to assassinate you though. Cluck, cluck, clu.

Later, the police arrested two suspects involved in the false bomb threat. The two suspects were a 24-year-old man from Bilft and a 22-year-old from Hegener. The two men are suspected of threatening to commit a terrorist crime. According to NOS, the police wants the damage caused by the false bomb threat to be recovered from the two suspects. Quote, the ship had to be anchored for a week toe, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, the tho, tho, the, tho, tho, tho, the, tho, the, tho, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, thrown, throwne, to, to, to, and, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr-a, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, thuui.a, and, thu to be recovered from the two suspects. Quote, the ship had to be anchored for a week so the cargo could not be unloaded. In addition, one must realize that, for example, just lending a telephone to express a threat can have enormous consequences. Gert Wibberlink, head of the infrastructure department of the National Unit told the public broadcast. I mean it's also inconvenient when you lose your 2.5 tons of cocaine?

Yeah, they're the real victims of this. Yeah. I would suck. I feel like that's a... They don't really explain where the cocaine went, who they suspect of putting it on the boat? Do you think when they find some, uh... some stuff that is being smuggled? Do you think the assumption is that the people the people the people people people people people people people people people people people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their victims their victims the their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their victims their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the thiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thii thi.e victims thi.e victims thi.e that is being smuggled, do you think the assumption is that the people

on the boat are aware of it or not if it's a shipping container kind of scenario? Like it's a lot, it's a lot of cocaine. There's only so many mysterious shopping bags that someone can carry on to your boat before you're saying, what do you go? What's this? What's in there? Still not cocaine. It's just some stuff, it's just some stuff that I need for later. I'm just bringing a lot of cocoa.

I love cocoa. I guess like, um, I feel like at some point in my life I've seen a statistic about how many shipping containers on cargo ships actually get inspected and it's like 2%? Yeah, for all the ones that you're catching with cocaine, you're missing heaps obviously. Yeah, yeah, I'm just, I'm wondering, is it basically a lucky dip as they go around the ship and go, uh, that one. I'm getting vibes from that one. Checking cocaine via sea, it's basically risk-free. That's the Bunton Vista Promise.

And then apparently if they find all your cocaine, they'll just say, hey, guy who brought the cops onto the boat, you're in trouble. You're nicked. And that's about all they will tho tho they will tho they will tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho- tho- tho-a. thi. thi. thi. tho-a. tho-a' tho-a' thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeea. to-a. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. C. C.that's about all they will do with it, you know? Yeah, that sounds right. From my, from my understanding, that's how, that's how drug bust work. I feel like the Dutch version of Nicked would have a J in it. Yeah. You are Nicked. Nickly, J. We're all so bad at this. Oh boy, if you have any Dutch friends' relatives, if you yourself are Dutch and listening to this show right now and have taken great offense to this, please feel free to write into the

Bontivista hotline, mailbag at Buonto Vista.com. And perhaps we will read out your letter like we're going to do for this listener right now. It's time for the Buddevis to Heartline. 1,803, 1,175, that's the Boltonvista hotline. 1,000,000,000, 5, that's the Boltonvista hotline. You can send us an email. Mail bag at Bolivista.com. Maybe DM us an email. Mail bag at Bultivista.com. Maybe DM us on Twitter.

You could even message Facebook. We don't really check the Facebook, yeah. 8003175-5. That's the Boulter-Vista hotline. 1,803175. That's the Boulervista hotline. 1,800, 3175155, that's the Boutervista hotline. We should probably just take a moment to send our well wishes to Ben, who is still unwell with the novel coronavirus. That MF has COVID.

Promise he'd never get it. Hey Ben, coved much? Covett much, my good bitch. And he waited never get it. Hey Ben, COVID much? COVID much, my good bitch. And he waited until it wasn't even cool anymore. He did, we've all had it now. It's not interesting to get COVID anymore. Yeah. I do like the difference between somebody that you know getting it now.

the difference between somebody that you know getting it now like what kind of like what kind of like big loser behavior is to get it now like what you still you're still doing that we're not doing that anymore posting your tests on your Instagram story oh are you feeling sick do you need me to bring you around some soup or something but like in like summer 2020 I know this is like pre-jabs and everything but like summer 2020, you're like, oh my god, what if one of my friends dies? Yeah, it was like being told your friend

had been shot with a gun. Yeah, and I tell everyone, I'd be like, Tom has COVID. Yeah, he's not coming out because he can't come and sit on the picnic bench outside the pub because he has got COVID. That's what's happened to him. I'm seeing him in a month. He was contracted. Now it just now honestly sounds to me like Ben is scyving off. That's what that sounds like to me. Well, you're right. No one here is disagreeing with you, you know. Get well soon. Uh, get well soon. This comes to us from a lovely listener, Gies. Who says, Dearies, who says, Dear Andrew Ben, Lucy, and Theo, and I'm assuming that Gies would say, and Phoebe,

if he knew that we were reading it to you, you know? Hello. I wrote last year as well to provide some context to the Battle Royale that is known as Dutch New Year's Eve. Have you, are you, you have any awareness of this, Phoebe? Um, what? No? That thia, thia, thia, thia, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, this, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, this, th, th, th, th, th, thus, thus, th, thus, thus, thus, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and I, and I, and I, and I, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, thus, thiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thee, thi, thi, and thi, thi, you have any awareness of this, Phoebe? Um, what? No. The New Year's Eve in a... Some of it, but not all, no, no, I don't know what you're talking about. That it's just like fucking insane, that on New Year's New Year's Eve in the Netherlands,

like, everybody lets off like a lethal amount of fireworks and people just like set fire to cop cars and then when the firefighters turn up to put out the flaming cop cars they shoot them with fireworks. Set fire in the fire. And like every... Why do they do that? They're just letting off a little steam. Okay, that's true. That's true.

Been cooped up. And basically... All living in Ian Frank's house. That's not much room in there. That's what they make you do in Holland. You've got everyone, it's like jury service. Everyone has to serve three months hiding in an attic. Get in there. It's like joining the IDF, yeah. It's like BTS doing their national service, you know?

And it's reparations. Fairplay. They should do that. Make th. th. th. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. them. th. them. them. them. thoom thoom. the. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thea. it's reparations, fair play, they should do that. Make them, make them do it. So basically, for the last couple of years, for the last couple of years we have covered like the fallout from Dutch New Year's Eve, which basically just includes like a ridiculous litany of stories of people getting their eyes and fingers blown out and like all of the people get rushed to hospital due to fireworks mishaps and all of the people who have like set the police on fire and stuff like that. So that's the context there. So he says now... Critical support. Yeah. Now I have left the Netherlands for some time now and do not celebrate New Year's there

for obvious reasons. 46% of fireworks casualties are bystanders. I can provide some context again through my experiences of growing up Dutch. As I described previously, New Year's Eve rioting is a tradition that happens everywhere in the Netherlands regardless of rurality or urbanity. That. Now. Now. Now. Now, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, th, that, now, now, now, that, now, now, that that that that that th that th th th that that th the, thi. Now, now th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho, tho, tho, th th th th th th th th th th th th th that's th that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the, the the the the the theanan. Now, theananananananan thean thean thean thean thean thean the the the the th a tradition that happens everywhere in the Netherlands, regardless of rurality or urbanity. That being said, there are significant differences. The major cities in the Netherlands prefer to engage in more modern pastimes, such as burning down cars, container fires, and ambushing first responders.

In the rural, where I grew up, we improvised makeshift canns cans and shoot our neighbors' jaw clean off after the first couple of beers. What they do have in common is that both groups attack first responders who try to kill the vibe by arresting people, putting out burning houses or providing first aid. What's the Fawai? This could be making it all up and I'd believe it also. Don't you say that about Geese. I would never know. I'm sorry Gies. To illustrate this difference I would like to contrast the times I celebrated New Year Eve at home in the village I grew up and the times I celebrated it when I lived in the city. A key point is

that you cannot really travel on New Year Eve because all public transit shuts down to prevent the murder the murder the murder the murder the murder the murder to to the murder to the murder the murder to the murder the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I would the th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I would the. I would to to to the. I would to to te. I would like to to teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I would toe. I would to to murder of drivers, etc. Oh my God! What the fuck? Now, one of you wondered, one of you wondered on the show if there are pockets of normalcy on Dutch New Year's Eve. It happens that I grew up in one of these pockets. If you discord the constant background drum of the improvised cannons that would be audible in the whole village on December 31st, my neighbors did not get too crazy with fireworks and only lit some decorative fireworks at 12. That being said, when I called my mom at 12 this New Year's Eve, I couldn't hear her over the sound of explosions going off nearby.

That was Ben's joke intro. The times in the city were interesting as well. Basically, the police and firefighters constantly patrol the streets to put out fires if they get too big, which I lit again after they leave the street. So committed to... Oh my God! Most of the time, they will not arrest you if you do not throw fireworks at them or run away. Some neighborhoods arrange a container in which they start a bonfire preferably of things that contain plastic like the one

guy who threw five plastic bags of old fireworks that were in his words quote too dangerous to light this New Year's Eve. Into the bonfire. Because like the stereotype you hear about like about Dutch people is that that they kind of seem they seem a bit like a matter of fact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A looof. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um. And maybe maybe they just keep it all in. Maybe they have their Patrick Bateman mask on.

For like 365 days of the year for it. They let it go on the fireworks purge or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. And then they just, this is it. I'm going rage mode. The purge with free use. It's possible to get like seasonal rabies? Like, interesting. Ramps up 31st of December and everyone just starts biting each other on the arm. God.

Also, every year I would cycle to the party I was attending, people would throw fireworks from their balconies at me. Yeah, it sounds like a shit time. Sounds awful. This sounds awful. This sounds awful. I take back my crack about the cl.. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. I th. I th. I th. I thirte. It's thirtea. It thirtea' thirtea' thirte. It thirte. It thirte. It's thirte. It's thirte. It's thirte. It's tham. It's tham. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. Yeah, it sounds like a shit time. This sounds awful. I take back my crack about the clogs. I feel like, I feel like they're not a wise people too upset. Yeah. And plus the clogs are going to give you away. They're going to triangulate that noise pretty quick. How are you throwing a, how you're sneaking up on someone and throwing a firework at them? You should be able to hear them around the fucking corner. Yeah.

Clop, clop, clop. Two concluding remarks. Firstly, one of you wondered why nobody wears glasses or helmets. In the Netherlands, cycling with a helmet while preventing serious brain trauma in almost all accidents, is unironically seen as quote a German weakness. All right here's what I want to know though. If Dutch people evolved from Germans, then how come they still are Germans? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh. Oh, sorry, I didn't get to the end of that sentence.

Cycling with a helmet, cycling with a helmet while preventing serious brain trauma in almost all accidents is unironically seen as a German weakness so you can imagine how safety goggles are perceived. My goodness. Secondly, I have the good news that this type of New Year's Eve celebration seems to be spreading. In Germany, there was some nice old-fashioned fireworks throwing at police in major cities like Berlin. Many hugs and even more kisses, Geese, unfortunately, still my name. God bless. Oh, that was a moving sign off I thinkthink. It's um, what a world. What a world we live in.

Here's another letter from listener, Tom, dear Buntz of Vista, I am one of those Dutch people you bully and I would like to give my two cents on the Dutch New Year's celebrations. They never, there's not even a modicum of defending themselves. Well, we definitely picked the right we definitely pick a statement about it. I was... Yes, it is us. Tom says, I was only made aware of the absurdity of our goings-on when I listened to the episode, Battlefield Irk of the podcast of Wundervista.

Before that, I took it as a given that the New Year brings car fires, injuries, deaths and riots. People in rural areas do in fact, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, thi thi there, just, I there, I thi there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I there, I thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the is not thi thi thi thi thi thi thi there's there's there's it as a given that the New Year brings car fires, injuries, deaths, and rights. People in rural areas do in fact put carbide in milk churns and blow themselves up, it's tradition. What? Why do they do that? Just for those keeping track at home. A milk churn is like a strong metal container. And so if you've got explosives, that's where it's going to keeping track at home. A milk shone is like a strong metal container. And so if you got explosives, that's where it's going to want to go. They're naturally drawn. That was not my question, Theo, as well you know.

That was not the basis of my query. I assume your query was logistical in nature. Now, we're just going to run that back for a second to Geese's letter where he says in the rural where I grew up we improvised makeshift cannons with carbide and milk cans and Tom in a completely separate letter is confirming for us carbide and milk churns I'm picturing like those the big metal dairy milk containers yeah yeah, right?

A big thing. 100%. Which I would say that it's also, there's no pause at all in his strides as in like, that's an obvious thing for everybody to have access to. I was just my milk churn. You're the family milk churn out the back. I can spare a few. Tom continues. Last new years, I stepped outside at five past 12 to witness people throwing heavy fireworks at each other. The sounds of a fire truck grew louder as I spotted a burning electric scooter. The police only stood and watched. Again, critical support for that.

You win some, you lose some. Yeah. Uh, I have no clue why we do this, but I don't expect it to stop. All the best. All the best, Tom. P.S. Vroom Shoup is pronounced Vrom's Hope. That's really boring. That's not really fun at all. I wish I didn't know that. And finally, we have a letter from a listener Arsam who says,

Hello Buntus Vistas. Everybody picks a different plural. Yeah. I like it. True linguistic challenges. How to pluralize the hosts of this show. On the last Tuesday night before the Persian New Year, Iranians light their old possessions on fire and jump over them in an ancient ritual

symbolizing the cleansing of the new year. That sounds super fun. I'm on board. Yep. And it's nicely symbolic, you know? As you can imagine, jumping over massive fires and the recent addition of lighting increasingly dangerous fireworks causes a lot of injuries. I remember teenagers getting their hands on the quote nuclear bomb which would leave holes

in the street asphalt. I think if your firework is blasting a hole in the street, like a paved road, I think it might just be an explosive. Yeah, that's just a bomb. That's just a bomb. That is just an improvised explosive device. That's what that is. So here's an article on the most recent celebrations.

Quote, at least 19 people died and 2,800 injured in Iran Tuesday evening in Chahashan B Surrey, I'm going to take a stab at, the celebration of the annual fire festival ahead of Iranian New Year. More than 30 of the injured are in critical condition, 171 had lost a limb. Oh my God. Holy shit. 880 suffered eye injuries and 850 are suffering from different degrees of burns. Oh my goodness.

That is out of control. Mmm. That's a bit much. You know? Do you have anything similar in Australia to celebrate the new year? Oh, just the worst people alive being really drunk on the streets, so we probably shouldn't judge too much. Yeah, we have that too. Yeah, it's, um, it's very, like violent homtoo much. Yeah we have that too. Yeah it's very sort of like violent homophobia you guys heard of that. Yeah, white parties. You see seen this? You heard about this? Okay is that like is that a new is that like a new thing that you

because we don't have that over it? Well you wish. No we do have that over here but it's like. No we do have that over feel like because of like global release dates and stuff it's like we don't have like the full version here yeah yeah yeah what's a white party it's impact where everyone dresses in white you guys seen they oh I have seen this every time like everyone is also white at the white party because they host them occasionally in the botanical gardens in Brisbane which is next to QUT, the uni I was out for three years. And I saw it twice. And both times I'm like, this is, it's extremely cult.

You just dress in white, but it's just the worst people you can imagine. Yeah, the closer you get, the less scary it is. Do you have to be white, is that a requirement? Or they, or? Don't have to be white to go to this party, but it helps. It's not a thousand. It's not a written requirement, but at the same time, I think that I see. I think, correct if I'm wrong, right, but I think that the vibe that this style of party is trying to convey is like Diddy having everybody dresses in white party on like a yacht? Yeah, on like a mega yacht or

something and I feel like they've kind of taken away the wrong aspect that was like the appeal of that party. I think the appeal of that party is like going to a party with a theme when you're insanely rich. Yeah, otherwise you're just dressed in white. Well, yeah, and also I would say it's probably easier to look good in white if you're really fucking rich and on a beautiful yacht. Like it would just be easier the the appeal thi thi th, I th, I th, I th, I the appeal, I the appeal, I th, I the appeal, I the appeal, I th, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I the appeal, I thi, I thi, I thi say it's probably easier to look good in white if you're really fucking rich and on a beautiful yacht. Like it would just be easier to go to a tailor and say, I'll have a linen suit please. Made just for me. You know, you could genuinely just go and get something that didn't look like shit.

And then if you wear that in context on a beautiful yacht, it's probably going to go okay. What you tend to see in Australia though with this type of party, again, they're not really capturing the essence of the vibe. It's more of a, I've got like white jeans from like J.Js and a white work shirt that I have worn, like too many times and it's a bit yellowing. Yeah, or a cricket outfit as well. Like. Like. It. It. It. It. It. It, like. It, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th. th. th. th. th. have worn like too many times and it's a bit yellowing. Or a cricket outfit as well. Yeah, yeah. Doesn't it just look like a party just that's just full of chefs?

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boat it'll be on like like one of those sort of, you know, you know the kind of boats that just sort of chug along the river in a major city and they have the same air as like the party bus? Party boat. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, party boats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm familiar with party boats.

I once saw a party bus floating? I once saw a party boat that that that that that that boat that had been like I don't know what had happened to it but it just like stopped in the middle of the Thames and the people on the party boat obviously sort of felt like they needed to kind of keep the party atmosphere going so they were like continuing kind of like dancing around and then kind of like one by one they kind of tailed a bit. And then they were just all standing there. Stuck on a fan. Standing on the boat with pit bull blaring out behind them.

And it was a very philosophically important site, I think, and worth seeing if you can a tour manage it. Like I've seen a few, um, I've seen a few videos on social media recently of like there was that massive plane delay in the states when they said, oh somebody somebody clicked yes on the update this software button and now all the planes have stopped. And and like videos as well from in, I think it was in Sydney on a train and like just stopped. They were like just looking out the window at people standing on the platform and they're like, well we've been here for you know 45 minutes with all the lights out and the door's not opening and everybody just just sitting and waiting, you know. That's that's genuinely my nightmare. Like the idea of like somebody who like has sort of sets up kind of subscription services

to like to make sure that yourself driving car doesn't crash. Like the idea of them like getting their hands on plane infrastructure is genuinely something that I that I think about when I when I can't sleep. Lucy, did you just say that it costs $90 to go to one of these things? I feel like it does, right? They're ticketed events. Wait, it's not just like someone says, okay, everyone around to my house, I'm having a party, everyone has to dress a white party.

You have to pay money to... There's a list. There's a list. There's a list. tent and there's like you get tickets. If anyone has been to a white party please write in because I would love to hear you experience. I would absolutely love to hear about this. This feels like the kind of thing that like maybe like five or six years ago you could get a decent article out of it for like Vice Australia. Yeah. I went to a white party and I went to a white party party I met a bunch of chefs. Yeah but like imagine well I was I was gonna say I don't think that I don't think that you even need to specifically be worried about like malicious actors fucking with

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Have you seen that the... Imagine being stuck in a situation like that, but it's on a boat. It's on a party bus on the water. That's truly, truly abysmal vibes. Ooh. That's funny though. That is funny, that is funny. Can't lie. Hey, speaking of self-driving cars

and feeling uncomfortable about the possibilities and a potential that comes with that, it's time for Paging Dr. Lucy. If you find that you are having a little relationship trouble. Just to pick up your telephone and dial it on the double. You call one eight hundred three one seven five one five five now you're paging doctor and say. I know what this one is. So often on this segment we will like to turn to relationship expert Lucy to mediate online disagreements for us and tell us what the people involved should do.

We will not actually be passing that advice along to them unless they coincidentally come across this podcast but that's a chance we're willing to take. This is of course from Am I the Arsol on Reddit. Am I the Arsol for yelling to be let out of the car when my boyfriend's dad turned on the one feature I asked him not to? I'm listening. I spent last night with my boyfriend's family. We'd gone out to dinner and his dad was going to drive. So my boyfriend me, his parents and his brother, all squeezed into his dad's car and we went to the restaurant. I had a few drinks and his dad had two since he was going to drive. But on the way back his dad started asking me, you work on self-driving cars, yeah?

I do. I'm a systems engineer and have jobed between a handful of autonomy companies. He he he me how I liked his Tesla and I joked, fine, as long as you're the one driving it. And he asked me what I thought about full self-driving, which he just bought. That is of course the full self-driving beta. I am still trying a picture saying I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna turn on the feature where you take control of my car that you are saying you're not done with yet it's a beta yeah you know yeah just go fly in the 747 beta yeah yeah just go fly in the 747 beta yeah yeah the most comforting thing that you can possibly call a vehicle

yeah He asked me what I thought about. The most comforting thing that you can possibly call a vehicle. Yes. Version 0.1. That's for a call of duty multiplayer before it's released. That's not for a car. Because when your call of duty crashes, that's okay, you know. So he asked what I thought about full self-driving, which he'd just bought. He asked if he should turn it on.

I said, not with me in the car. And he then laughed and asked how I was still so scared when I work with this stuff every day. Yeah. Uh, asked and answered, oh. How come? You know so much? And yet you have a different opinion than mine? Hmm.

See what you done here is you bought the piece of shit version. Yeah. Version piece of shit, what you want to do is upgrade it to the slightly less piece of shit version. That's where you've gone wrong. That's just around the corner I'm told. What do you mean you don't want this sausage? You spend all day working at the sausage factory.

Yeah, there it is. I was like, uh, it's because I, but stopped when he pulled over and literally started turning it on. I was like, I'm not kidding. Let me out of the car if you're going to do this. And my boyfriend's dad and brother started laughing at me and my boyfriend still wasn't saying anything. His dad was like, it'll be fine. And I reached over my boyfriend's little brother and tried the door handle, which was locked.

I was getting mad and probably more so because I was tipsy and I yelled at him to quote let me the fuck out. My boyfriend started telling me to calm down because I was drunk. Pro boyfriend move this guy steps back. Sinks the jumper. He's he could have like I'm he's going to miss points for not asking her if she's having her period. Yeah. That's about. The mass effect dialogue options. not asking her if she's having her period. Yeah. That's about... The Mass Effect Dialogue Options Popping up on his head. Calm down.

Do you have your period. You're being hysterical right now. Oh. Wow. My boyfriend started trying to tell me to calm down because I was drunk and I told him that it didn't fucking matter, I'd be out of here sober or drunk. He told me to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. the the the the tell me to calm down because I was drunk and I told him that it didn't fucking matter I'd be out of here sober or drunk. He told me to stop cussing in front of his little brother. Yeah, that's his little brother.

My little brother will die if he hears a swear. He told me to stop cussing in front of his little brother and I told him to tell his dad to cut his shit out and I wouldn't have anything to cuss over. His dad was like fine I didn't realize it'd be such a big deal and drove home normally but things have been tense as hell. Yeah! We got back to his house. We got back to his house. This is not gone well, hey. We got back to his house and he was mad at me for quote overreacting unquote the first time I met his family altogether. I got angry and was like, quote, I'm not the one who decided to do the one thing that I said I'm not comfortable with in the car just after I asked him not to to laugh at me. He said that his dad used the car a lot and it was fine. th. th. th. And I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. th. the the. the. the. he he the. the. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the the the the the the the the the the he he he he he he he he he he. he. he. he. he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the he he he he he he he he he asked him not to laugh at me. He said that his dad used the car a lot and it was fine and I asked him since we're both rock climbers would he ever get on a route with his carbana? Carabina? Carabina?

Carabinan? Oh it's written in the thing as Carbana. Would he ever get on a route with his car baneer that doesn't lock? What if someone says they do it all the time and it's fine? And he was like, absolutely not, but that's different. And I said it's literally not. This is from Elon Musk. And then my girlfriend picked up a sword and left the room. He said it's that's different I said it's literally not just like we don't know any climbers who do that shit nobody in my field I know would stay in that car. What are you talking about? My dad feels his airship up

with hydrogen all the time. Yeah fine, bitches, am I right? This, look, this dude is handling this as well as you possibly could. He says, he got mad and told me to go to sleep because I was drunk. Once again, you are handling this so well, dude. It's masterful. This guy's on the only red responses run of this game. He's going to reload his save after this. But honestly today I woke up sober and I stand by what I did. Like I wasn't comfortable with what was happening and my boyfriend's family

all laughed and started trying to do the one fucking thing I said not to. Like whatever that thing is, it's fucked up. Am I the asshole for yelling at my boyfriend's dad to let me out of the car? No. No. No. In fact you should leave your boyfriend. Sounds like a huge loser. Like I know that at this point it's a kind of like, it's like table states that like basically everyone who is posting or read it about their relationship should be breaking up with them. But like, come on man, like this is, this is no fucking good. Get rid of this guy. Man, that's certainly something where, I don't know if this is something with, like, that comes with age or whatever, or if it's just like a basic thing for people but I just can't imagine someone saying to me yeah this specific thing really bothers me it would make me really uncomfortable if you did this like I'm serious I don't I

don't want you to do it and and to just be like basic relationship stuff yeah that's basic treating another human being like it wouldn't have to be anyone that I'm in a relationship if someone said to you if like you know if if you if if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you. if you. if you. this you. this you. this you. this you. this you. this you. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this you this you this. this you this. This this this this. This this. this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this this. this. this. this. this this. this this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. Yeah. this. this. Yeah. Yeah. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. That's basic treating another human being like it wouldn't have to be anyone that I'm in a relationship. If someone said to you, if like you know if you went to someone's house and you went to get something out of the cutlery draw and they said, as somebody once said to me, look just do me a favor and like don't rattle it all around heaps because the sound of like a bunch of cutlery being jostled make like really really bothers me. And you were just like whoa. Oh I'm pretty sure I gave him a shake when that person said that because I was a teenager teenager the fucking idiots and they don't they don't think terribly much about other people in my experience.

Because their brains aren't developed. Yeah, yeah. And neither are those brains of Tesla owners. I think the, um, I think the sort of bonus angle that this guy's getting, like, there's the obvious, there's the obvious primary thing here, which is, I ask you guys not to do this and you all just continue to do it. And particularly as like, if somebody's getting increasingly visibly upset about what you're doing,

that would be a great time to fucking stop it. Like, you can tell someone. Yeah, if my partner was yelling and like trying to get out of a car door. Yeah, I'd be like, I'd feel like,'s like an origin to this that maybe I should be respecting. It feels like you can see me. Lucy I'm sure you will attest to this, but this is like this is definitely a character like the like the like the boyfriend's awful dad. There's like, I don't know why this is such a kind of common, common spectacle. But like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it the, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, it's like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, the, it's, the, it's, the, the, like, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I don't know why this is such a kind of common, common spectacle, but like, it's what, it's what kind of Latter-day Ricky Javais always makes me think of.

Like, you can just sort of like imagine him just like being just like, just like sitting like a bit too close to you and like... Making inappropriate jokes and you're like, yeah, and then doing the, oh look at her, look at her, look at her, she's, she's more, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, oh, oh, and th, and th, like, like, like, like, like, and the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. th. thi, like at her, look at her, look at her, oh don't worry, don't worry, don't worry, are you offended? Are you offended, are you offended? Yeah and that's the, that's the vibe here and I've definitely, I have definitely run across these boyfriend's dads. And they're never like that with like their own kids. Like it's more just like they see like their son's girlfriend and accesses some kind of weird part of their like monkey brain and they start acting like a fucking jerk.

Yeah. We were talking about types of parties before and I would be curious to know, I guess particularly for Theo and Lucy, did you guys have the traditional 21st birthday party? The traditional Australian 21st birthday party? No. Yeah. Now Phoebe, I don't know if, I don't know if this will be identifiable to you as a friend. Is the 21st the thing? Oh, I mean, yeah. Or in England. Something that something that you have when you turn 21. Our big birthdays are the 18th. That's the big, that's the big that's th. the the the the 20. the 20. the the 20. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. twe. twe. their their their twe. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. tw. two. two. two. two. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tw yeah, or in England. Something that something that you have when you turn 21. Our big birthdays are the 18th. That's the big, that's, that's, that's that's the big because that's when you can legally drink. So, I feel like we've, we've sown this from American culture, right? There's no reason to have a 21st, be 21st party. Yeah, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because it, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I, I, I, I, I, the, like, like, the, like, like, like, the, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. know, I remember having my 18th and being like,

way, I can go to fucking clubs now, you know, I can buy booze, all of that shit, and then that's it. That's all of the barriers to you as an adult. The world is now open to you. Yeah, there's nothing magical happens at 21st. But there is a cultural tradition here of having a 21st birthday party, sometimes with a theme as we've seen recently in Australian political news, people have costume parties like the the Blackface Party yeah, the New South Wales premier has just come out and said, look, yes I did dress up as a Nazi

in a Nazi uniform at my 21st. Who didn't? But like as a joke, as a joke. So that's very cool. But the other aspect of it, of Australian culture, I suppose, is like, having heaps of really embarrassing photos of your kids, you like stop and show a whole bunch of like really embarrassing shit. And like, like a zoomed in photo of their asshole when they're a baby or something, like

they're in, they're like bending over a sprinkler or something. And, and that someone, your dad or whoever, will get up and give speeches, people will do speeches that are like intended to be as humiliating as possible to the person whose birthday party it is? Andrew is crazy. He's crazy. Look I'm not I am not saying that we don't have a cooked culture over here, but like that is that's really strange to me. That's a really strange thing to do I didn't I didn't have one also you both you both you both you both you both you both like a zoomed in a picture of your ass I like all your kids in like the bathtub or something right yeah it's like you and your little

little dick out in the little baby dick out and everyone's like ha ha ha ha ha it's so silly yeah yeah no I didn't have one I was the like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th the the tho thooo. tho. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeee like like like like like like like like like you th th th the and everyone's like ha ha ha ha ha it's so silly yeah no I didn't have one I was living a thousand call tasks my to trucks yeah same your own kind of birthday party but it's definitely it's definitely a thing and like it's it's so weird to me to think of like adults having like like you were saying Pho Phoebe, about your boyfriend's dad just being a fucking weirdo TV because some part of his brain set off. And I feel like 21st birthday culture here is like that, where a whole bunch of people go,

here we go, it's the time that I have like social license to fucking bully the fuck out of my kids. Yeah. Awesome, I'm gonna, I'm gonna spend some time getting material together.. tod t social license to fucking bully the fuck out of my kids. Yeah. Awesome. I'm gonna, I'm gonna spend some time getting material together, you know, or like I've been saving things over years. Type 5 to get my kids. I've been working on my tight five where I roast the fuck out of my 21 year old loser

son. It's such a weird phenomenon to me and it's so weird that people engage with it so gleefully. It's getting up that being like, oh my son gets no bitches. Probably because of his little dick over here, it's probably partly partying it. Just bringing the slide back up every time you make a point about your son, as you can see. As you can see. February 1st, 2013, this was the first time I caught little Jordan trying to suck

his own dick. February 2nd. Like flipping through a really, a really worn diary, you know? Like a captains log? Yeah, yeah. Like sometimes people here use their kids' wedding as an excuse to like, be a piece of shit to them. But like, honestly, like, honestly, I don't care for that. And it never, and it never goes down well. Like like I went to a family wedding once and the bride's father decided to just just unleash what felt like decades of resentment

against his daughter at her wedding and he obviously thought this was going to be like this was gonna be like gonna speech speech yeah yeah this was like his like father of the bride speech and he obviously thought that this was gonna go down like absolute like gangbusters but he but it but it really really didn't like he did like a whole like, it probably was only about like two minutes or so, but it felt like a fucking decade of just like going on about how shit her hair had been when she was a teenager and how like, and how like good it was that she'd like,

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I'm gonna bring you down. God. Yeah, she was really the kind of the Donald Rumsfeld of this whole set up. He had to bring down the power behind the throne. Oh wow, I just... It's very strange. I just, I don't know. I can't imagine somebody saying, hey, this is making me quite unhappy and going... Well, don't you just stay in your seat unhappy and going, well, funny to me. Why don't you just stay in your seat and let me put the full self-driving beta on. Why don't you just calm down?

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in the house like dive into the bathroom saying I was desperate or whatever. Yeah, I got a shit real bad. Exactly, I'd get out the bathroom, he'd be hovering there waiting, waiting to lay one on me. And eventually I got out of the car. She's just like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, like, like, th, th, th, th, like, th, like, th, like, th, like, th, like, th, like, like, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the th, the th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to th. to thi. th. to thi. to thi. thi. to thi, thi, like, like, like'd be hovering there, waiting, waiting to lay one on me. And eventually I got out of the car and I just like, you know what, I actually really don't like your dad kissing me on the lips. Could you maybe have a word with him and just like ask him to stop doing it? And my boyfriend rolled his eyes and went, I thought you wanted him to stop doing the racist voices. and I'm like

both. I want him to stop doing both. That's not one or the other. Picky battles. You gotta choose. You gotta choose. If you don't want to hear one of his voices, then I'm afraid you're getting one laid on you missy. That's just the way it works. When a... not in contact anymore no we're weirdly I mean you and the dad oh yeah no we are we're at well Chris great yes I get hey Nigel can I can I get the Pakistani one again oh wow wow I don't I don't care for that one to thin to the the the Paki one again oh wow wow Oh, wow. I don't care for that at all.

When people say, when people talk about women having it all, that's what they mean. Oh, you want him to not do the racist voices and stop kissing you on the mouth. Yeah. I want everything. Yeah. Absolutely everything. That's wild. I feel like we've given a lot of guidance to the fellows this week in terms of what not to do, maybe, you know? I think we've given some pretty clear signals here about things that are not the best

thing to say when your girlfriend's trying to jump out of the car. Yeah, well, you can have a think about that. Take that home, take it to the m the m the m to the m to the m the m the m to the mink it the mink it to the the Take it to the bank. Perculate on that for a little while, you know? My goodness. Well, Phoebe, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. And everybody of course can catch you on 10,000 posts and masters of our domain. Yes. You can also find most of the hosts of Punta Vista on episodes of most of those podcasts. Yes you can. We can. Yeah. So if you would like to continue the crossover, just get over there. Hit subscribe, hit like, you know? Yeah, get involved. Yeah.

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