Boonta Vista - EPISODE 36: Cowboy President Teddy Rumsfeld

Episode Date: February 26, 2018

Andrew, Theo and Ben are pulling back the curtain this week and revealing some of our most amazing production secrets. We're talking about Barnaby Joyce, the Daily Mail's latest atrocity of a headline, spicy takes and news about Mark Latham for people who are over 60 years old. We also attempt to count our teeth. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Don't forget to rate & subscribe on iTunes if that's your thing. _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Punta Vista Socialist Club. I believe it's episode 36. Not 100% confident, but it's what I'm going to roll with. You guys have any strong opinions about which number it is? I think it's up to us to decide what number it is. Perception is reality. I agree. Well I mean, just that... I think it's more about a naming convention than it is about a strict chronological order. if we say this is episode this is episode number this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is mean just that I think it's more about a naming convention than it is about a strict chronological order if we say this is episode number 36 it's kind of up to us. I think it's 36. So here we are an episode 36 of course with our beloved Benjamin. Oh how are you Ben I'm very well thank. How are you? Oh, I'm good. I'm pretty good. And how is Theo? Hey, um, a bit under the weather. I've got this like,

I've got this ongoing thing where my sinuses are too tight and a piece of rice went up my sinus and that's developed into a full-scale chest infection. So, a for which I'm not gonna get made fu off, I'm sure. How are you guys? Does that tickle you, Ben? That's a, it's the tale of our strong and robust boys here. Bought, bought to the brink by a single grain of rice. I don't know if I'd get made fun for this. I'll share anything with it.

The most Theo injury you could possibly sustain my body. I inhale the single grain of rice. Theo think rice is too spicy. Uh. I inhaled a single grain of rice. Theo think rice is too spicy. Phrushy. Pthio's body is currently rejecting the rice. Oh dear. Lucy is not with us on account of being unable to work her internet.

Yeah, she downloaded too many pornoes at the same time and it was like that three stooges scene where they're all trying to get through the door at once. And the connection just shut down. Have we given up the pretense of saying that any time she can't be here it's because she's trapped on the toilet due to chronic IBS. You can take a mic to the to the to can take a mic to the toilet. There's a mute button. Yeah. Well, yeah, personally I'm just having visions of Lucy just being like one of those retirees who has to get someone to come and fix their computer because of all the viruses that are on it. And it's absolutely because of all of the porn that they've been looking at. She's like looking at the internet through a tiny little hole in her browser, which is just

otherwise add extensions and plugins. Yep. Yep. She's carried her, carried the tower of her PC into the Apple store and is currently asking one of the geniuses at the genius bar exactly why she can't log on. Bonn's eye buddies just stopped working. My experience, those guys are no geniuses, they can't even help fix my iPod. Is that, whoa. Is that a good bit? Do you, I, do, do you have an iPod? Do you, I do, do you fix my iPod. Is that... Whoa. Is that a good bit? Do you...

I... Do you have an iPod? I could. Yeah, that's true, you could. Anyway, enough about Lucy's crippling IBS and pornography addiction. Uh, we've got some stuff for you this week. Come on. Man, you're doing so good with the segues. You couldn't be like,

speaking of being trapped in the toilet, I bet Barnaby Joyce wished he was right now, because of all the public attention he's getting. Here's an update on Barnaby Joyce. Well, Number one, I wasn't going to talk to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to the to to the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the, it's number one, I wasn't going to talk about Barnaby Joyce first, right? Speaking of Lucy, being a card carrying IBS sufferer, we received a message today from a card carrier of a different kind. That was amazing. Thank you. Thank you. It's much better. We

received a message today from a friend of the show and they were letting us know that they were one of numerous people who has contacted us since our episode a few weeks ago about unions, the power of unions. This was of course friend of the show Josiah on Twitter at Death Sox and they they were ready to let us know that they are now officially a card-carrying union thug. Thanks to the nudge provided by Buntavista and dear friend of the show Tim who of course you can find at Burger Drome on Twitter. And it's been really really cool cool to get a great reaction to that show.

We've had a bunch of people basically reach out and let us know that they had been thinking about joining their union and they really liked what they heard and it got them thinking and they have gone out and join their union. So if there's one thing we can say to you, it's go and join your union. Yeah, join a union. If you've already joined your union, good on you for joining a union. And feel free to harass all the people around you who have not yet joined that union. So yeah, we just, we want to thank Tim again for coming on the show. We want to encourage anybody who hasn't listened to that episode yet to go back and get stuck into it. And as we said, we very much intend to get Tim back on in the next couple of weeks and picker's brain

about a few more things. There were a bunch of questions from our audience that we didn't get to. A lot of people have questions about like shitty unions, like the SDA, the old shoppies, and the alternatives to that sort of stuff, how to change those kinds of things from the inside, so we'd love to cover that sort of stuff with him again. So we will try. I want to find out what he was talking about with the dog dick just personally, but...

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here for a second, to point out that Theo had muted his microphone because he went into a coughing fit, but then very, very quickly un-muted it just so he could get in nice immediately after you finish the segue. Yeah. That's the kind of professionalism you're getting a more cast toast. Yeah, that's the sort of a, those are the production secrets that we bring to you. I will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will the curtain the curtain the curtain the curtain the curtain the curtain the curtain th th the curtain th th. I th. I the curtain the curtain th. I the curtain the curtain th. I the curtain th. Yeah the cut. Yeah th. Yeah theck the cuton. Yeah. Yeah, the cut. Yeah, the cut. Yeah, the cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the c. Yeah, the the the the th. Yeah, the the th. Yeah, the the the the th. Yeah, the the th. Yeah, the the th. Yeah, the th. Yeah, the the the the th. Yeah, the theat. Yeah, that's the sort of, those are the production secrets that we bring to you. I will bring the curtain back across though. We're no longer behind the curtain anymore. Okay, they're, um, you could see behind the curtain for a little bit, but now the curtain is drawn. It is red velvet.

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I've seen behind the curtain now that the curtain. Isn't that interesting? It would really work if you just pulled that curtain back across and said, head, enjoy the big wizard head again now that you know what's behind the curtain. Well I think that's assuming that you've flung the curtain back entirely. I think what we've done is we've flung the curtain back a little bit. You've only had a small glips. There's so much more behind that curtain. I think we've opened up one facade just to reveal the facade behind it. Certainly. You maybe you're's good all just be a fiction. Maybe you just... It's very, very deliberate. Yes, it's an elaborate act.

Absolutely, I'm throwing this show. So, speaking of big complaining bitches, we just, of course, need to touch briefly on the thing that everybody's spent the last couple of weeks talking about, and that is the nation's horniest deputy prime minister. Bad boy Barnaby. I think they should call him Yarnaby Joyce because there's a whole lot of yarns coming out about this fella. There's a whole bunch of Barnaby noise, you know what I'm saying? No, it's Barnaby Joyce. No, it's Barnaby Joyce. one doesn't. That's fair. So, you may be aware, we've bought into the hype and we spent our last two episodes.

There's been so many layers and so much dirt in this big old, sex scandal, coated and graft, that we basically spent most of the last two episodes talking about it because there's just so much stuff to get to. And let me tell you it didn't really ease up a great deal. Barnaby, you know, the Prime Minister said, Barnaby is going to take a week of leave and do a bit of quiet reflection. And basically Barnaby Joyce's quiet reflection has involved doing more interviews about the topic than he did while he was not on leave, which is really helping his cause. It's really helping people to put it behind them and move on while he is on leave. And if I remember correctly,

at the end of our last episode, we were up to that very day, which involved the Prime Minister calling a press conference and saying, hey everybody, Barnaby Joyce is a big, dumb, dip shit po-dunk, who can't keep his dick in his pants. We're all incredibly disappointed. He has no ethics. He has absolutely compromised his office. What he's done is terrible. He's betrayed his wife and his children. His dick is a weird shape. He's betrayed the whole party. He's constantly stepping in sheep shit and falling over into it and swearing at the animals on his farm. But it wasn't technically breaking the rules.

So he's fine. Also, we're going to change the rules. And if anyone does, what the rules, so he's fine. Also, we're going to change the rules. And if anyone does what the Deputy Prime Minister did and we're all talking about, they'll absolutely have to resign. But not him, because it wasn't a rule then. That went down really well, which as Theo said at the time, if there's one thing the Australian public loves to hear from their leaders, and one thing that they think really denotes, you strong, you strong, you strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong hear from their leaders and one thing that they think really denotes you know strong leadership qualities it's semantics. So everybody was like okay he's gonna he's gonna fuck off on leave and that'll that'll be done and dusted for a bit and it absolutely was not.

The very next day Barnaby Joyce called his own press conference to say, well I think the Prime Minister is the big dickhead here. He's saying all this mean stuff about me. Everybody already said the mean stuff. Why has he got to say it twice? Huh? He referred to it as a big scab being ripped off so that everybody could have another go with the wound which is just a beautiful beautiful image. I think it was the plot of crash. He then labeled the Prime Minister of the country who is his own leader inept and said that his comments were unnecessary and hurtful. So it's all just been a great look.

All the stories have come thick and fast. Her press conference was just absolutely wild because I think every single person had assumed that Turnville's press conference was done in consultation with Joyce and was like a damage control thing. And just to have Joyce be like that, fucking dog, cunt. It's just so amazing to know that, there's the PM, just roasting the shit out of him, to distance himself, not to save his ass.

It's truly, truly, truly amazing. Yep, it was very clear that it had not been done in consultation with him at all. Most people, I think, expected that he was actually calling a press conference to announce the resignation of the Deputy Prime Minister. But instead he just roasted him super hard. Barnaby Joyce called his own press conference just to disagree. I love competing press conferences. Truly wonderful concept. They should have just saved time and had the one press conference and just in the format of a roast battle.

Two podiums. Uh, what's that, the fucking guy that does all the roasts? Jeff, you know? Jeff Foxworthy. It's not Jeff Foxworthy. What's the fucking guy? Jeff Golblum. Got it. The fucking, you know, the dude that does all the comedy central ones. Jeffrey Lord? You fucking, you guys are know. I'm doing, I'm with one hair and I'm a good.

Jeff. It's definitely Jeffrey Rush. It just didn't come to me at first because people don't normally call him Jeff. Get it together. Yeah, that was the plot the plot the plot the plot the plot the plot the plot. The plot. The plot the plot. The plot. The plot. The plot the plot. The the plot the plot. It was the plot the plot. It was the the the the the the the the the the that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that's. that. that. You're. You're. You're that. You're that. You're that. You. You. You. that. You. that. You. that. You. that. You. You. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that th. that th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thatogether. Yeah that was the plot to the movie Shine. Yeah anyway. No you fucking arses. Jeff Ross you know Jeff Ross you know Jeff Ross. Doesn't ring a bell Jeff Rush yeah he's the Ross Jeff Rush the shine master general I got it. Fock. Well thanks for up there guys guys. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. Love a bit of Jeffrey Rush. I don't know why it keeps doing less pirate movies, but anyway. So, this all continued on.

It was very clear to them after having these completely ridiculous competing press conferences that it was a super bad look. So they announced the next day that they had had a meeting together on Saturday in one of their offices and that they had talked nicely about their feelings and still loved each other, which everybody very much believed. There was a background, a comment on background from a liberal MP that I really liked that was just like about Barnaby Joyce that was just, this prick has the nerve to get up here and act like the victim in all of this.

And I think that kind of sums up the whole thing pretty nicely. He absolutely has not been able to stop, which of sums up the whole thing pretty nicely. He absolutely has not been able to stop, which of course has prompted more investigation into all of Barnaby Joyce's expenses and all of his various bits of graft and all that sort of stuff. Nobody really thinks that he's going to hang there, which has led us, of course, to, was it today's events where Andrew Broad who is from the Nationals has told ABC Victoria Statewide Drive that he will move a

resolution to replace Barnaby Joyce's leader on Monday. Whether or not that will actually come off is uncertain but it's sure a shit a really bad look for him. I saw a comment today that was like I don't think anyone expects this to actually come off but everyone would just like Barnaby do shut the fuck up. I did not read this piece that went up today in the Sydney Morning Herald. Did either of you read it? This piece about how it was very mean of the press that went up today in the Sydney Morning Herald. Did either of you read it? This piece about how it was very mean of the press to pry into Barnaby's personal. Wrong to do it. I don't think it... I read it. Oh, you did read it. I'm the one person that

read it. And it's really like a nothing article. Basically the moment the story got very juicy, uh, abandoned the contention that this is an egregious breach of how reporting should work, which was, you know, something was very contentious at the start. But apparently, this person, this woman, yeah, she's sort of trying to beat that drum again. And the substance of her arguments is that it didn't really have enough political significance to warrant writing about. And the concern is that it, I think the biggest concern is that if we start eliminating people because of their social lives, we could potentially miss out on a lot of people that are great politicians or whatever which I mean is a relatively fair claim but I think as we've said

before there is a relatively clear parallel to draw here with how he has conducted himself in his personal life and how he's let that bleed into his political life where... Yeah don't fuck your staffers. Yeah, don't shit where you fuck. And he's shat all over where he focks. Although conversely you can you can fuck where you shit. Oh what is what do you mean by that? You know you got a... Is there a word for that? Yeah it's called anal sex Theo look it up. I'm not gonna look that up. No don't he'll faint it, you. You, you. Yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th thi, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't shit. Yeah, th shit. Yeah, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's shit, thi's thi's thi's shit, don't shit, thi' thi' thi' thi don't shit. Yeah, it's called anal sex, Theo. Look it up. I'm not going to look that up. No, don't, he'll faint. It's fair. Well, all I'm going to say is it's very, very homophobic to not look at it. And also, um, it's very ignorant to assume that straight people don't have anal sex. Sure. That was a well word. Yeah, the The article's kind of dumb. And the article is the article is ran it is because Sydney Morning Herald editor Ben Cubby will run literally the

stupidest fucking opinions with the stupidest fucking contrarian headlines in the world as long as it gets some clicks to the website which I mean that is obviously what they're going for but doing it by deliberately pissing people off is just Shitty and embarrassing and none of those newspaper Newspaper people ever get to make fun of buzzfeed or whatever ever again Because they are much much worse at it, you know at least the things that people tend to sort of think of when they when they put that sort of of feed it's more about the format rather than the content, you know it's the the the the th th th, th, th th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the they they they they neuuuuuu-nipea neu-nipea thee thee their their their thi thi th put that sort of shit on BuzzFeed. It's more about the format rather than the content. You know, it's the people always say it's the same shit

about that sort of stuff which is, oh, 21 reasons to do this thing. Except, as we have pointed out, it's been people from BuzzFeed, like the intrepid Alice Workman, who have blackbroken all of the biggest political stories in Australia over the last year or so. Absolutely. And like, you know, the click bait sort of stuff that people made fun of BuzzFeed for, which their political stuff doesn't do at all. Like they made a conscious editorial decision to not try and hide stuff in headlines or whatever. You used to just be shit like, you won't believe what this politician has done, you know, whatever, which they don't do. But the shit th th the shit th th the shit th th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their, th. their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th you know, whatever, which they don't do. But the shit that the Herald or the Age or any of those people will do is that they will

get some fucking dumbass to write a story like, hey, put down your avocado millennials, why haven't you bought a boat? Yep, so that a million people will click on it to figure out why this fucking person is the way that they are. Well, look, the perfect example of this is someone who we have covered a few times on the show, which is of course the legendary, Elizabeth Farrelly. We covered her notorious article, House is Always Haunt as Moving Prooves. As moving proves, which she published

during the Fairfax Strike and we also just recently on a bonus episode Lucy and I went through an absolutely indeciferable piece that she wrote about, I don't know, I guess architecture and the nature of change and multiculturalism and it's just atrocious. But yes, like the reactions to her articles as you say can pretty much only really give you the impression that the decision to publish any subsequent articles is done solely for the reason that you know that people will go, oh here's another fucking article by the househorn lady. What stupid shit has she got to say this time? In a slightly less cynical reading, I believe that they continue publishing her articles out of pity, in that she is clearly

insane, but she's sort of a legacy hire, and they must keep her on board. She is just an absolutely baffling woman. Like I said, it is, it is almost indeciferable stuff. Paragraph to paragraph, seemingly disconnected from the last. Anyway, so, oh, hey, Ben, speaking of, speaking of really shitty decisions to publish awful stuff in a newspaper, nice. Theo has brought to our attention, a little cover from the courier mail and they had a really classy take on a bunch of teenagers overdosing on some kind of weird Russian drug that they bought off the dark web.

Now I have not read this story so Theo could you take his throat? Yeah, so a bunch of kids, like you said, bought a, um, bought some Russian RCs off a dark web. Um, research chemical. Um, and, uh, research chemical. Um, and, uh, and they all ended up in hospital, um, um, and so out of this, obviously, you know, there's a bunch of, you know, there's a bunch of, you know, there's a bunch. there's a bunch there's a bunch. there's a bunch. there's a bunch. there's a bunch. there's a bunch. There's a bunch. There's a bunch. There's a bunch. There's a bunch, there's a bunch, there's a bunch, there's a bunch, there, there, there, there, uh, there, uh, there, there, uh, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's a there's a there, there, there, there, there, there, th. th. there, th. there, thi. there, th. thi. thi. there, there, there, up in hospital tragically. And so out of this, obviously, you know, there's a bunch of ways you could present this. Ways you could be sensitive about a whole bunch of kids making a bad decision and getting very, very ill from it. But a courier mail are not having that and they've gone with a selfie destruct with a little with a little Snapchat icon next to it because the kids you see they're always taking selfies. They love those selfie photos. They love those selfie photos. They love being on their phones instead of paying attention to me when I'm telling them

that I'm divorcing their mother. They're always posting likes on Snapchat. Forever snapping their chats, these teens. Yeah. So, and I mean, it just links into what you kind of kind of kind of said where you know you the you go they'll cast any kind of shit against you know the buzz feeds and previously you know the gorkers of the world and all that sort of stuff and apparently the career male is a is a tabloid magazine which I just found out but it's never it's never ever presented that way I think that I th thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the thi they the. the. they're go go go go they they they they they they they they they they go you go you go you go you go you go you go you go you they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th th th. you th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the theeeeeeeee. theeee. theee. theee. thee. thee. they're they're they're they're they're they a tabloid magazine, which I just found out, but it's never, it's

never ever presented that way. I think that a lot of people in Queensland, you know, get their news from this, like in an actual real fashion, not in a tabloid fashion, you know, from this News Corp piece of shit, and it is continually horrible. I don't know, it's the career mail, it's just Queensland, isn't it? Yes, yeah, it is. It's in. Yeah. So it's probably the most visible newspaper in Queensland. Yeah, and it's a, yeah, super, super shitty take. So, yeah, fuck you, the courier mail. Well, um, on the subject. It's a great example of this one. It's a, uh, it's a, the, the, the, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just. It's just. It's just, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's a, the the the the the the the the the the the the c. the the the the the c-a, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's super, super shitty take. So, yeah, fuck you, Curiamal. Well, on the subject, another great example of this was a friend of the show. Probably has not listened to the show, but friend of me, so then by extension. Incredible, incredible writer, Rokai Champsadine.

She wrote an amazing piece for the Sydney Morning Herald on how the stats are basically now that more people than ever are skipping food so that they can either feed their kids or pay their mortgage. And it's a beautifully written piece in the Sydney Morning Herald that I would highly recommend reading. It's fantastic, but the way that the editor chose to frame it upon publishing it was that the Twitter something was that the Twitter something was like, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their st st st st sti the stit, the stit the stit, the stit, thit is thitetsetsetsetsetsetsetsetsets, thateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateate fantastic, but the way that the editor chose to frame it upon publishing it was that the Twitter something was like, forget the Avvo, the big problems with housing affordability of this, whatever, and there's like photos sprinkled throughout it with a photo of Avo toast that's like far from chugging down on avocado toast, blah, blah, blah.

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income, wage growth, whatever, anything. And they'll just be like, oh, well, like I'm sure you had to work very, very hard, and I respect that, but if we work the same amount, it is literally impossible for us to do the thing that you did. And it's, you know, there's been, there was a really great survey done comparing the amount of money that millennials now spend on, like luxuries compared to how much they pay for rent and food and all that yada yada yada and holidays and whatever and it's markedly less than people from like 10 or 20 years ago but it doesn't matter you can show them that and they'll still sort of can taught this narrative where they're like oh yeah but Snapchat you guys are always on Snapchat.

But have you seen Tony Abbots back at it now? Uh, and, no, it's not, it's not avocados. Actually, it's those damn immigrants. Hmm. Didn't you know, it's the damn immigrants making the country too full. Australia, the famously full country. That's why you can't get a job. It's chock-a-blocker over here. It is not enough room to swing a cat.

Where elbow to ars-hole. Please do not swing your cat. Please don't put your elbow anywhere near my asshole. You can put yours near mine if you like. I'm trying to find it. There was a genius level take from some fuck shit on Sky News the other day from Adam Creighton saying that if the government is serious about reducing the rate of immigration then they must do it gradually to ensure there isn't a significant drop in house prices. Just a just a nuclear take on a... Absolutely incredible. Finger on the pulse, like, we have a legitimate housing crisis. And part of that is due to overseas buyers, not due to immigrants,

but mostly just due to conservative policies and never, ever, ever getting rid of tax breaks for landlords. And that'll go down well. Mm-hmm. Yes, I would love it if we could shift the narrative away from that just a bit. Folks, we've got a couple of topics to cover, but in order to do so, I'm going to throw it to that beloved institution the big, big groaning sack of mail. Guys, who wants to dive into the big sack of mail first? Who wants to dive into the Scroogemick-Duck type pool full of letters, which I think would be a lot nicer to dive into

than a pool full of golden coins. Well, that seems true to me. Yeah, let's be honest. Give me a faceful of that sack, maybe. Let's be honest, you would dive into the pool full of gold coins and your head would just stop and your spinal column would internal organs were compressed and crushed under the weight of your momentum that stopped like a crash test dummy in a car hitting one of those big concrete pylons that they run them into. Are you okay? I'm just saying I'd rather dive into to nice soft letters

from our beloved listeners. That's all I'm saying. Well, let's certainly do that. So I cannot actually find the letter that prompted me to look for the following thing. I can't find it. I can't find it. If you know who you were, please get at us and say, hey, it was me that asked that question. And I may or may not apologize to you on the next show. But we were asked by somebody, hey, it's

all been a bit quiet from old mate Mark Latham recently. What's he been up to? And that prompted us to have a little look around and Theo found some of the... Our first stop. The first place we go for all the hottest news really. Yeah, look I was logging in to starts at 60.com like I do every day. I'm not 60 yet, but I hope to be 60 at heart. Spiritially and health-wise, certainly. And wouldn't you know, they've got a little take from Mark Latham.

Surprising, that's what boomers want to hear about. Can I point out one thing about the website? Please. El, you can point out too. That's ever got time. I really like that the design of the website, like they've probably bought some kind of template thing to just install on a blog, that's fine, we've all been there. But the design of all the stuff in the header features

just garish, bright, incredibly clashing colors that I can guarantee you not a person on the planet over the age of 60 would be able to read. No, imagine somebody without their glasses on looking at that header. So they certainly don't have accessibility compliance is what you're saying. No, not over it starts at 60 News, which is a shame because of the people who are likely to use their site, their users are more than likely to have some manner of sitee. I feel comfortable saying th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I feel comfortable thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm t. I'm te. I'm te. I'm toge. I'm toge. I'm, toge. I'm, toge. I'm toge. I toge. I te. I te. I'm te. I'm te. I more than likely to have some manner of side issues. I just got to say, and I think, I feel comfortable saying this as a message of the podcast. If you're going to make a website, make sure it's got all your accessibility compliance done.

You want to have your alt text, you want to have contrast and colors, minimum font sizes. You really want to have all your bases covered. You should, look, let's be real, you should at least th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. I thi, and I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I thi. I think, I think, I think, I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I feel feel feel feel feel feel feel th. I th. I their, I their, I feel their, I feel their, I feel their, I feel their, I feel their, I'm thi. thi. thi. theateatea. I'm teatea. I'm te. I feel feel feel feel their, I feel feel theatea. I feel. You should look let's be real you should at least set out to meet the international web content accessibility guidelines 2.0 to the double A level if you can manage it. Oh look as a minimum. Folks if you're going to make a website head over the wicks.com it's so easy. It's so easy. And Theo let me just tell me there I think if you want to make to to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a the the the to to to to the the the the the you you you you you you you you you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the make a website, head over the wicks.com. Wicks dot com. It's so easy. And Theo, let me just tell you there. I think if you want to make a professional, easy-to-use website, you've got to look at

square space. Mmm. Squarespace.com, use the promo code, um, come town. And, sorry, wrong, wrong podcast. Oh dear. Anyway, those are my thoughts on the design of the website. Starts at 60.com. News for fucking old folks. I'm going to start visiting there regularly. Well, life actually starts at 60, so how old is it really?

Well, um... It's actually okay to abort somebody before that age? Yeah, state-sanctioned killings are actually just extremely late-term abortions. Yeah, every day is the purge if your victims are under 60. Although I still, I don't think anyone can do an abortion. Oh, just anyone. I... Like, I think there is some steps you have to go through. Sorry, I thought you were saying that you just, like, don't thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th thi, like, like, thi, thi, thi, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, just anyone. Like, I think there is some steps you have to go through. Sorry, I thought you were saying that you just like don't think that abortions exist. I don't think anyone can do an abortion.

Like, I'm pretty sure they can. I'm almost certain people have done abortion. I mean, I think most people could do be a licensed medical professional to do one in Australia. So... Ideally, ideally you've skimmed a WikiHow article. I don't know if whatever our medical board is, the Australian Medical Association, I would make that up. Yeah, no, that sounds. I don't think they would accept skimming the wiki how as acceptable credentials. I also think if you're aborting a 45 year old, it's going to be a different set of tools involved. Same theory just on a bigger scale.

Certainly. Should we get into the article? I don't know if we're... I think we could keep doing abortion jokes for a good 20 minutes. It might be a joke to you. the their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, thi, thi. thi. tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I theooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I th. I th. I th. I think we should keep doing abortion jokes for a good 20 minutes. It might be a joke to you, but you know I respect you. Oh, come on. Theo, it shouldn't be a topic that's off limits to talk about. Are you saying that people should be ashamed of having an abortion? Oh, fuck sake. Is that where you were going with that? That what?

I can't even bothered tired, Andrew. So Mark, I reckon Malkey's a bit of a control freak and said his sex ban is a return to the Victorian era, which I find very funny. Anyone who seeks to regulate sex between consenting adults is not someone who believes in individual freedom. He's just a libertarian at this point, right? That's all that Mark Latham is at this point, right? Chernblower has outed himself, hey?

Well, like, I just don't, libertarianism is dumb. I mean, we all agree with that. Dumb as bricks. But, so I guess your position as a libertarian should be the, nothing should be the, that's that's that. That's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's all that's all that's all that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all that's all, that's all so I guess your position as a libertarian should be the, nothing should restrict individual freedom, right? But you also believe that of corporations or businesses or whatever. So if the government is your employer and they've given you a rule, although I guess, I guess they can make a case that it's different if it's the government that's doing it. But like if you've signed a contract to do that, you should have to abide by the rules

that it has, right? So as a libertarian, couldn't you defend like any rules that they put in? Except the ones you don't like. And then they violate the NAP. So. I don't know. Well, the other thing about that type of libertarianism jazz is the whole, you know, you get like conservatives and libertarians stuff. We're all like, oh, you want to do socialism except it's never been successful anywhere in the history of anywhere. Just always makes me think, yeah, just like all of those successful, completely

libertarian regulation-free countries, which actually all sound like the island from Battle Royal, both in the sense that you would just immediately be murdered by your closest neighbor, and also that it is fictional. Oh, man, if you get really into a narco capitalism, which I mean I'm sure we all have, complete laissez-faire capitalism, libertarian utopia, the examples that they always pull out are the Wild West and Vikings. Those are the two examples of anarcho-capitalist societies that worked because you're essentially paying people to have the law enforced on a personal level in the Wild West. And cowboys generally live to be like 25.

I'm pretty sure the same as true of Vikings. I'm pretty sure it was a fucking shitty hellhole, but it means that they don't have to think about having to pay tax or contributing in any way to the society that fostered them to the point where they are now. Well, yeah, you don't have to be worried about being forced to put aside part of your income for like a pension or retirement because someone's going to shoot you in the face to steal your gold fillings. Yeah, and of course, like, I mean, look, let's be real, I don't feel like I can even argue with that point because of the fact that that works so well as a society, that that's still how we live now.

Well, I mean, if you look at America now, it's not changed much, am I right? Bunch of cowboys. They even had a cowboy president, remember that guy? Which one are you talking about, I was talking about, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th... th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that remember that guy? Uh-huh. Which one are you talking about? I was talking about W. I was talking about W. Because he liked to do his cow, his cowboy stick? Thought you're talking about like, uh...

What's his name? Teddy Rumsfeld? Yeah. That's two names. That's two names. That's two names. Am I fucking it all up? Teddy Roosevelt and Donald Rumsfeld. Donald Rumsfeld.

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He was the cowboy president. He was the one I was trying to think of. Well, he was, he was, he was more of a, the adventure guy. He was the outdoorsman. He was a hunter. He killed thousands of animals. Nearly all the stuffed animals, well, like taxidermine animals at the Natural History Museum, pretty sure it's Natural History Museum, were like killed by him and his expedition party. So it's really great going there and being like, Teddy Roosevelt killed that guy. Yeah. Good on him. Good on you, Teddy. He also started nearly in all of America's national parks. Yes, we can at least give points for that, golly. Yeah. And also, I can't believe you guys are making fun of me. Because Roosevelt, because I got the name slightly wrong, you know, semantics, but that's

cool if you want to, how to, that's how jaunty little cowboy part. No, I agreed with you that he was the cowboy one. Thank you. So basically it's just Andrew that can go fuck himself at this point. Yeah, no, I eat shit. Please, please accept my most sincere apologies for being so mean about Teddy Rumsfeld. Anyway. If you're an American listener and we've gotten any of this wrong, why don't you look at your own fucking problems in your country right now, you

dick? Shut up, bitch. Stop hassle and us, and deal with... Fuck off. Look, we've completely... At this point, we have completely departed from the issue of Mark Latham's weird... I want to talk about Cowboy Presidents all going very well. Well look, can I just make Theo's final point here, which he had written down for the Mark Latham stuff, which is that even Mark Latham, right? Even Mark Latham gets it, which is to say, as we've said on previous episodes about all the Barnaby Joy stuff and the sex with your staff has banned, which shouldn't really really, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th-I, th-I, th-I, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, thi, thi, thi, well, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to thi, to thooooooooooooooooooo, thi, thi, thi, thi, to say, as we've said on previous episodes about all the Barnaby Joy stuff and the sex with your staff has ban which shouldn't really have been a going thing anyway, everybody from every side of politics is like man, this guy is massively fucked up and the government's still trying to pretend like he hasn't. Even Mark Latham can look at the situation and say,

quote, Turnbull missed the obvious point, people are look at the situation and say, quote, Turnbull's missed the obvious point. People are worried about the issues of taxpayer funds, not who he's fucking. And that is absolutely true. The whole thing about saying we'll change the ministerial code of conduct after the horse has bolted and impregnated a lady. Yeah, it's just, that's not the point at all. The point is about using the the theto create jobs for your mates and all that sort

of shit. So even... Well, actually, I actually re-read that sentence and we might be giving Latham the benefit of the doubt on that reading because he doesn't actually say anything about the affair. He just says people should be worried about the issues of taxpayer funds, which I read now as him being a huge libertarian. He just doesn't like taxpayer funds. And he would rather save up money to build a city underwater where you can live your life

in peace. Some sort of rapture, if you will. Oh, that's a great name for it. Oh, speaking of the Rapture. Nice. I watched the, I watched the Nicholas Cage movie Left Behind the other night. Oh, it's something, my co-worker was asking, asked me today if I'd seen Left Behind. I was like, oh, that sounds so bad, it's good.

What did you find? Is it a remake of the there's like a TV movie about people being left behind from the rapture from like this late 70s or 80s called Left Behind? Well it's based on a book. It's based on a book. Oh yeah I think it's like a super Christian book right? Very much. Look there's there's some funny moments in it, but it's not even like, it's not even shitty enough to be good or whatever, you know, it's no good. It's not good. I'm surprised to find our back to the future is Leah Thompson in there. She gets raptured. Hmm. It is pretty funny the moment when like everybody gets ratchet and all of a sudden there's all these people standing around, just like a holding hands with an empty shirt sleeve, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, there, there, th. thi, there's there's there's there's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, it, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thi, thi, thi, there's not there's not thateeeeeeeeeeei's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi. It's not empty shirt sleeve, you know. Oh, so the clothes stay behind.

The clothes stay, all the people go. So, heaven's just a bunch of nude babes. Heaven, everybody's dick's out for God, I guess. This is the very the Bible. Tangential, but I would highly recommend it to any listeners of the show that if you haven't watched the TV series, the leftovers, you've got to get in, you've got to watch the leftovers. Yeah, I've got to get on that. Oh man, it's so good. But it starts with a similar sort of raptor event, but immediately afterwards. So it doesn't sort of show the during or anything. It just shows the flow on a fence.

And yeah, the first season, really good. Second season, really fucking good. Third season just outstanding. And also, of literally any TV show I've ever watched, including ones made in Australia, leftovers does the best job of capturing Australia in all its sensibilities and everything. Just fucking fantastic. This episode bought to you by the leftovers.

Uh, HBO's the leftovers, stream it on, uh, I don't know if it's on any Australian services. Just pirated it. And you can find it on a pirated site that I set up on Squarespace. It was so easy to do. It was so easy to do guys. Just... And it looks beautiful. Yeah, just go over to Squarespace.com and use the code copyright infringement for 10% off, your first torrent website that you're going to set up before you get caught by the Australian government. So it's time to throw to a few more letters folks. A couple more letters. There's a letter here that I felt that we needed to answer. It's about one of my favorite topics. Friend of the show, Bob Biggs, the and patron, Kiss Kiss.

Bob Biggs, asked a question this week, which was, when Shane Warren was infamously gaining weight, rumor had it, all he would eat was ham and pineapple pizza without the pineapple. What's your favorite Shane Warn fact? And I thought that this would be an appropriate moment, of course, to do the theme song for any segment that involves Shame 1. Are you guys ready? Yeah, this will kill five minutes.

Shame. Shame. Shane, shame, pizza. Shame. Shame. Shane. Where is Shane? Shane's getting fat.

Shane's getting fat right now. American Pie. Love that film. Here we are. The wide world of Wes Warnie, once again. Everybody's favorite segment. So I did a tiny bit of research about dear friend of the show Shane Warren. We've covered some of his exploits in the past, as you may tell by the fact that he has a theme song.

So I did a bit of research. We should probably update for American listeners. He is a cricket player. He's so much more than just a cricketer. That's true. He's a retired former Australian test cricketer who now lives in the UK in a state of perpetual horniness. He's a colorful Australian personality.

Is that a fair characterization? Yep. I think another fair characterization would be,y, Warning. Oh boy, is he horny? So I did a bit of research. I was googling things like Shane Warn, Facts. Shane Warn, interesting facts. It's so good to see the process behind us. Yep, a bit of hot Googling. And here's the one that I liked. It was from a big list of Shane Warren facts. I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thor, is thor, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thor, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is thor is thor is thor is thor is thor, is thor, is thor, is thor, is thorough, the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very thorough, the very thorough, thorough, thorough, thorough, thorough, is here's the one that I liked. It was from a big list of Shane Warren facts. I have written down the very first one and no others, because this is the one that I enjoyed.

It is prefaced by, let's have a look at some interesting facts about Shane Warren. Number one. It was at the Institute that Damian Martin and Justin Langer first came across Warn. He was an overweight youth sitting by himself, tucing into a family-sized pizza and guzzling down a can of Victoria Bitter. That is the entire fact. So, I mean, this seems to contradict an earlier story that we broadcast, I guess that's the right word, is that he didn't drink beer

at all. Oh, that he did not in fact like a beer. Well maybe it wasn't until he was living the high life of international test cricket that he could afford to have whatever kind of drink he wanted as opposed to a can of VB with his family-sized pizza by himself. Which I mean, that's kind of my ideal meal. I'm not a VB specifically but a family-sized pizza is the perfect serving size for me. I won't settle for anything less. I don't know about you guys. And what are you going to

do if you ever have a family event? Maybe you guys can eat a few bits of pizza and then put the rest away but if I've got a whole pizza in front of me I'm gonna fucking eat that whole thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the. that's the the th. the the the the the the. thi thi th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat te. te. I's te. I'm gonna fucking eat that whole thing. Oh that's fair, it's fair, it's greedy, it's pretty greedy. I don't know if that's greedy. I bought it with my own fucking money. It sounds pretty greeter to me. Wow. Look let's let's not throw around any accusations about who's the big greedy pig who eats all the pizza. Okay. Who the fuck doesn't love pizza, Ben? Well, apparently you. Oh, look at me. I've a portion of a pizza instead of a whole one.

Look at me, eating the amount of pizza an adult man eats. Wow, I mean, I'm an adult man and I eat more, so. We got two questions here. Oh, yeah. Friend of the show, Liam Reeves, he's a fresh new patron. Hello, Liam. Kissing, kissy. He has two questions.

He's doubled up and we're going to allow it because he's so fresh to the show. Liam asks, number one, how many teeth does the podcast have in total? So I'm gonna see it like I'm gonna start off by saying I don't know how many teeth an adult human is supposed to have? No I don't know how many. It's like 30- 20-something I want to say 20-something. I want to say 20-something. Let's all to say 26. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna ask Siri. I'm gonna ask Siri.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, it's, th, th, th, th, th, want to say 20 something. Let's talk to you're saying 26. 26. All right, I'm going to ask Siri. One tooth per chromosome.

Hey Siri. How many teeth does a person have? Oh, fucking work. Sorry, I'm dealing with some technical issues. How many teeth does a person have? Mm-hmm. How many teeth does a person have? Mm-hmm. How many teeth does a person have? It's not working.

Now I would note that on Google, I... Oh, you just googled it. Well, I got there faster, didn't I? You're trying to use all your fancy tech. Look at Tony Stark over here, unable to find out how many teeth, how many teeth people have. Now the answer apparently is that, guess what, adults have more teeth than children. Most adults have 32 teeth. It's pretty close.

I would like to note that on the first questions under people also ask, the first question is, how many teeth have adults? And that does not sound right to me. How many teeth have adults? How many teeth have adults? Yep. Look, so if there's someone out there who wants to do the math of adding together 32 four times and then removing two for my missing teeth. Oh. Huh. I think I've got all mine. Wait.

Is everyone still got their wisdom teeth? Uh, no. I've got mine chiseled out. Oh, well, they got the big old sore and took a bunch of bone out and then they got the chisel and they whacked it with a big hammer and they popped out and flew across the room. Awesome. Well, I feel physically ill. Thank you.

Well, there's four wisdom teeth apparently, so that puts you at 28, I have never had any wisdom teeth removed or anything like that. I have just had two of my molars removed because I'm a big baby who is so scared of the dentist that I wait until my teeth literally fall out of my face. Oh man, when I was a teenager and not like brushing my teeth properly, I had a tooth that rotted out and it was one of my molars. I think I'm probably, all right now I've just walked into a trap immediately because I will say that I was still losing teeth at like year 11. You were losing your baby teeth at 17 or whatever. I was which is fine isn't it? Anyway so he pulled out this tooth right that was rotten and it's like, this is what happens when you don't brush and he had it in the,

like, pincers and he crushed it in front of me. Oh. Oh! Oh! And I'm like, what? I didn't go back to the dentist for like five years. Yeah. Had the total opposite effect of what he was after, which was fine though, because all of the teeth that were rotting continued to fall out, and now I've got all the normal amount of adult teeth. Guys, I've not been to the dentist in a really long time and now I'm terrified. I will pay for you to go the dentist. I will pay for you to go to the dentist on my behalf. Am I going twice or are you splitting the cost? You are going twice. Well, I will probably need many follow-ups.

Yeah, maybe you can go and just say the emie, and as far as the government's concerned, I've been to the dentist and I don't have to go. If you have any suggestions on how I can't have any any to have any any to have any the to have any to have any to have any to have any to with my crippling fear of the dentist, please write into the show. Have you considered just like going in like mega drunk? No, like and you can get put under and shit like that, but oh my god that cost some money. Because you got to you got to pay for like the inesitist and then you got to pay, you got to like book the room for the whole day because there's going to be this unconscious this this this this this unconscious th th the unconscious the unconscious the unconscious the unconscious the unconscious the unconscious the the the th th th th th thus thus thus to thus to to thus to thus to to thus to thus thus. to thi thi thi. thi. that. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to to thi. to to to thi. to to th. th. th. to th. to to th. th. to to to th. to to th. to thi. to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. I the. I the the the the thi. I thi. I thi. the thi. I thi. I to thiesitist and then you gotta pay, you gotta like book the room for the whole day because there's gonna be this unconscious dude in there. You gotta pay for like the hypnotist or whatever to unerf the memories afterwards of what happened your dick

while you were under the gas. Or you gotta pay a bodyguard to stand next to the dentist and guard your fly and your dick. The whole thing. It's just a whole bunch of costs that you incur. And it's got to be a licensed bodyguard as well. You can't just bring it a friend or a relative. No, no, it's got to be a professional dick guarder. You can't just, can't mess around. You need someone who's not going to be like looking at their phone and fucking around like playing snake while the dentist is playing snake. Swatting the dentist's hands away. Yes. Playing whack-a-mole with grabby dentist hands. Yeah hands above chest level please. Doctor. Hey I only want those fingers in my mouth buddy. That's right. One you got access to one hole.

One hole. Yeah so that's just one of the many reasons that I just don't dig it. I don't dig it. So I think, in answer that question, 122 teeth? Well, we haven't included Lucy yet. We'll have to get back to you. I assume she's got a full mouth. Of teeth. A full mouth. What that mouth can do. Wait, no wisdom teeth out for you Ben? No, I've got a full mouth of horrible teeth. All right, how many molars you're missing? Two. Two. Yeah, there's a hundred twenty-two, and then minus

whatever Lucy's missing. Come on. Anyway, shout out to friend of the show. Now speaking of wonderful, wonderful teeth, we've also got a wonderful tweet from our dear friend. Yeah, that was middling. Because I wanted to say fucked up horrible teeth, but that didn't really lead in to saying something complimentary about friend of the show. Aaron, you can find her on Twitter at Erin Shalada. And Theo very much enjoyed a little tweet from Aaron today, which she said, hmm, dingo

Twitter? Is that because they ding go to school? Sent tweet. Got him. Rack him, Aaron. I think this is an official, thi th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, you, you, you, you thin, you thin, you thin, you thin, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, they dingo to school? Send tweet. Got him. Rack emerrant. I think this is an official, an official call out of Dingo Twitter. Hey, piss off. Hey, just stop that.

Step off. I... Quit it anymore. Look, you're racist. Fucks. Foxx. Now, for American listeners and even listeners from the gray land of the UK and whatever other countries are listening, I've checked out the stats and it's not as many of you guys. Let's list every country. There's probably more countries than that. Well, I can list the other countries, but as a friend of the show, Liam pointed out to

me earlier in the week, it's very likely that some of those countries that all have similar numbers are in fact VPNs. And I was like, oh yeah, that's possible. It's very possible that we don't have 30 Spanish listeners a week or whatever. Anyway, so for non-Australian listeners at least, and people who don't spend too much time on Twitter delving into horrible alt-right shit. Dingo Twitter is basically Australia's parallel to like Pepe's. Pepe the Frog alt-writers. So much in the same way that alt-rights, Maga-Chuds have ruined frogs, these dipshits have to ruin frogs. These dipshits have also managed to just ruin dingoes, which is a shame because they seem like perfectly nice wild dogs.

If you can, like just take our word for it, don't get into it. Don't start searching for Dingo Twitter, don't start interacting with any of these people, and you'll probably live a slightly nicer life for it. Yeah, so Dingo, Twitter, eat shit. You're a bunch of idiots. Enjoy listening to your fucking moronic Blair Cottrell motivational speeches to three people from the one fucking gym he goes to. Real fulfilling life for all of you. Big shout out folks to the many wives of the show. We have our new patron tier.

We have a bunch of beautiful wives now who are contributing to our efforts at the very highest tier. And we love our wives. We love every one of our wives. We honor them. We cherish them. We cherish them. We kiss them, we cuddle them. We cook them eggs.

Yeah. We, unless they're vegan or they've got an egg allergy, in which case we cook them. I don't know what a good substitute for egg. What would you have in the circumstances that you're just having an egg? Just an egg? Like a boiled egg, like a fried egg, am I having scrambled eggs? What's the air is always cooking egg for wife? What sort of egg are you making for Caitlin usually? Um, just a just a fried normally, it's probably the normal one. Nice runny yoke? Yep, yep, just sort of, just enough to seal all the wide on top. Oh yeah, that's when you know you got a perfect, you get that slight,

it goes almost like a little frosted glass almost, just over the top of the yoke. Then you know, you got a perfect egg, perfect egg egg perfect egg for the wife of the show and if you're not making an egg you could maybe I could make you some falafel or some sort of soy extrusion yeah I could make you some oh I'll tell you what scrambled tofu there you can yeah yeah you could even put a bit a bit of tofu foodie, yeah, you can even put a bit of a bit of Tofoo-di in there for some flavor. A bit of what? Tofootie? Have you never had Tofutie? Have you never had Tofutie? tofuity is the vegan cream cheese substitute and it's fucking great. It is great. I'm not one, I'm not like one for hollowly repping like

vegan substitute for things. But let me tell you, pal, tofuty, that's some good shit. It's basically, it's just cream cheese. If someone just gave it to you and was like, check out this cream cheese, have a spoonful. You'd be like, why am I'm gonna have a spoonful of cheese? And then you'd try it and you'd be like, the was fine I guess, and then they'd be like, wrong, motheucker, it's Tofootie. You say what in the world is Tofudi and then you'd have this whole conversation all over again. Oh that's good to know. Check it out folks. Today's episode brought to you by Tofuity. Go to your supermarket and attempt to use the discount code Bonte vista, just until you're the the world in their their their their their their their their their their their their their the attempt to use the discount code, Bunta Vista, just until you're

forced to speak to a manager, kick up a big scene. If it doesn't work, definitely call them up. Yep. And be like, hey, this podcast I listen to. They said that this discount code is good for 100 percent. And at the moment, I'm getting a 0% discount. So I am going to do a quick shout out to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the moment I'm getting a 0% discount. So I am going to do a quick shout out to our beloved wives of the show. We got eight of them now. Eight of them folks.

Dear friend, Toward Waterhouse, who I'm sure we all remember, Michael Latimer. Muah. Mya-mah-mah-long- Long-time Patron, Alex Watts. I refused to kiss Alex. Actually I kissed him right on the forehead about four days ago. So it's pretty much a lie that you refused to kiss him. I hear a gecko. I hear a gecko. I actually love kissing that. Nature Corner. Welcome to Nature Corner, bitch. There was also a dog barking just prior to the gecko. But I don't know if the

microphone caught that. That's the dogs next door that hate me. That's I gotta respect their opinion, that's fine. Friend of the show, uh, the wife of the show, Connor Stokes, we love you too. Kiss, kiss. Kuntwaive, a new wife of the show, a bead killer. Kiss kiss. And of course, wife of the show of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th of thi. thoes thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoos. thoomk. That's thoomks. That's thoomks. That's thoomks. That's that's that's that's that's. That's. That's. that's. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo and of course, wife of the show, the Ed Zittron. Who you may know from Twitter as the world's greatest practitioner of PR. Only good PR person. And foremost expert in Zyborn Clock. The world's preeminent PR expert, I hugely encourage you to check out many of the articles

that Ed has written around the place, including for like Vice. He's got some great pieces about getting ridiculous exorbitant tickets for like the Super Bowl and floor seats at the Lakers just to see if it's worth it. And he wrote a piece relatively recently that was about Theo's favorite subject, Bitcoin. That's right folks. Theo's a Bitcoin miner now. Putting on his hard hat and going to the Bitcoin mines. Yep I'm all in. Sold my house. Sold the house. But Ed wrote a piece that I think was for vice. I'll try and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll to to to to to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I'll the. I'll thi. I'll try. I'll try. I'll. I'll try. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll try. I'll try. I'll the. I'll th. Sold my house. Sold the house. But as Ed wrote a piece that I think was for vice. I'll try and dig up the link for it if I can't,

where he basically said, all right, I'm going to put aside a chunk of money and treat Bitcoin as though I am playing craps. And see if I can make a profit or not. And it's very interesting he breaks down kind of how it works all that sort of stuff we're gonna have it on the show soon it is gonna come on the show and have a chat to us so before we do we will make sure to throw it out there so that you guys can get your questions in about about about about PR about Bitcoin about all the other stuff ed's written about about his

his podcast the scumbag podcast all that kind of that's th th th that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th that's th that's th th that's th that's th that's th that's th th th th that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th th tho tho that's that's tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th that's that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the tho the tho the tho tho tho tho tho his podcast, the scumbag podcast, all that kind of stuff. That's a good one. So, yeah, we just wanted to give big kisses to all the wives of the show. We also love all the lovers of the show who we see behind our wives backs and of of our many friends of the show. We wouldn't be here without use guys. I might give a special shout out to dear friend of the show. Ben jungles, who horrifically and incredibly disgustingly,

I think broke his foot off, is maybe the best way I can describe it, managed to somehow completely detach the bones in his foot from the other bones in his leg while walking on a flat surface in the rain and slipping, and he is currently hold up in bed awaiting surgery. Big kisses to you, Ben, I love you, buddy. You're going to be fine. Yeah, well soon, Ben. We love you very much. And that, I think that's gonna wrap it up for us today. What's our, what's our crime pass? Ooh, uh, oh, your crime pass is to set up an illegal torrent site on Squarespace. Absolutely. Using the discount code, Wundervista. If it doesn't work, please just contact Square Space support and ask them to get in toubtsu.

Yeah, so you can use that to set up and what were people even streaming? It was the leftovers. The leftovers. Yes, you can set up a torrent site and just put up illegal streams of the leftivers until it's made available through some regular means in Australia, because you've got to send a message, you know. Make it available to us, otherwise we will set up illegal torrent sites. And that's what you can do with this week's crime pass. Of course, you can always catch us over on Patreon for our subscribers, our beautiful wives, lovers and friends of the show. So you can head over to Patreon.com, forward-s, Buntavista, if you would like to join us us us us us us us us us us to to to to to to us us us us us to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to make to to make to to make it. to make it. to make it. to make it. their. to make it. to make it. to make it. to make it. to make it. to make it. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm the th. I'm the the the.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. And, to. And, to. And, and friends of the show. So you can head over to Patreon.com forward slash Buentevista if you would like to join us there. I also just recently got through the whole backlog of updating our website, Punta Vista

dot com, which apparently I have not posted the latest episodes two since episode 22. Let's be honest, that was a while ago. I have done that which has also updated our Facebook page, Facebook.com slash point of vista. Why do you try going over there? I'm just hitting like on some stuff. Maybe clicking the fifth star along on the review part of Facebook. And you know if you've got a, if you're just in the swing of reviewing things by that point, if you're just like, I've done one. If, if to you doing reviews is like eating

pringles, then also maybe pop on over to like the old iTunes store, whack in a review there. A five-star review, because let's be honest, you've really enjoyed this. Do you think there are many people for whom doing reviews is like eating Bringles? Absolutely. Cool. So get on the old iTunes. Plug your boys, help us out. Come on. Stop being selfish. Seriously, stop it. And on that note, on the note of me describing you as selfish. We're gonna leave it there. Any final words, fellas? Everyone be well, be safe out there. Tell the people you love that you love them. Do a little something for yourself this week. You normally wouldn't do. Doesn't have to be, you don't have to splash out or do anything lush with your money.

Just, you know, sit down and read a nice book in the sun. Go for a little walk. Drive to the beach if you haven't been there for a while. Just do something nice. Set aside a few hours to just treat you. Oh, there's no joke at the end. Well, that's nice than me calling someone selfish, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, that wasn't a bit.

What's wrong with you? You fucking cunts. I just want to fucking try and be fucking positive for a single fucking second. You fucking dip shit. You get on here. Every time I try and be sincere, you're both fucking voices, shitty little tolows of their their thoes, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, what, what, what, what, what, what's thi, what's thi, what's thu, what's thu, what's thu-a, what's thu-s, what's thu-n, what's thu-n, what's thu-n, what's thu-n, what's thu-a, thu-a, thu thu thu thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-s thi-s the fucks the nice guy here and somehow like laughable that I want to improve people's lives. You guys are just fucking pieces of shit. I'm fucking sick to death me. This is fucking bullshit I have fucking done.

I hop the broadcast.