Boonta Vista - EPISODE 367: Problem Exists Between Robot And Couch

Episode Date: October 13, 2024

Theo, Andrew, and Ben bring you: The racist inside the robot inside your home, the Harlem Globetrotters of baseball, and when to call it quits on being a skydiving instructor. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

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Well that is to say it was about as good as it gets out here. To the best of my kin, well, you know those those volts out there? A bunch of rich folk for the war got old dug into the ground with their cousins and whatever they could carry down there they got shut up in there for generations I guess and I kind of think they're just sort of like brewing in there culturally speaking like moonshine made out of golden gecko shit to what pops out as one of the weirdest nerdlings you've

ever seen. You might as well have a big sign over them saying Raider Buffet. Well, pop out they did. I figure something tripped in those vaults all at once, because it feels like we're getting swarmed with these folks. Look at this fella here. Tells me by the end of things in his vault, all they had to watch was a holotape stuck in the player.

It would only play the part of Eastern Promises where Gar gets jacked in the sauna. That was sort of their training video for fighting like as well. Anytime he gets into an altercation around here, appears to be on the regular, he immediately starts stripping down to nothing but a wet towel starts rolling around so everyone sees his asshole and balls the whole time till they give up. Out of there Andrew. Howdy. Them's fighting words. Nasty. I think canonically you have to be doing Viggo Mortensen's Russian accent because that's how you would have learned to talk as well Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, there is there is fighting world

Off come the pants Pointing at my neck with two fingers yeah And this next fellow well you'd think he'd be better than the last Certainly figures he'd be less trouble around here, but ends up giving everybody the absolute heebie-jeebies. Says his grandpappy and co. Had to go into the vaults before things were fully ready. They had the walls and floors and such but hadn't put put up any entertainment or pictures or books or nothing in there. Didn't even manage to print a number on their vault clothes before they locked that big door into place.

Absolutely zero signifiers or symbols. You getting me? As a result, he's come out kind of blank like. Well, here's the fella now. You'll see how it'd been. We still had language, right? Well, here's the fella now. You'll see how it'd been. Well, we still had language, right? I mean, you would have had like oral tradition and stuff. Yeah, we just didn't have a system of writing or a system of symbols. So I guess I'd just be looking at everything and go, what's this here? I wouldn't even ask what does that mean.

What is this? How come there's a shape there? Someone don't say it. Stained wall! No, that's uh, that's the name of the store. Just looking at every letter would be like, are there more of these or is it just the one? There's only one B in the tier on this side. No, no, there's uh, there's 26 of these. No, not, not in total. 26 unique ones. You only get to use them once.

Yeah. How do you choose what you want to use them for? No, okay. So when you, when you put them all together in different combinations, then they mean, so, okay. So meaning is... Yeah, can't mean. You gotta, yeah. Uh... It changes what they is, but the thing they is isn't what they are. is but the thing isn't what they are okay so there was this artist by the name of Rene Magritte oh man I saw something yesterday there that made me

think of you it was a viral Twitter post that was about the trope of the like three kids in a trench coat pretending to be an adult or whatever. Yes. Where they were like... And sometimes I feel a bit like that. Going into work. Because of adulting. Because of adulting, yeah.

Yeah. And his hairless penis. Yeah. Because my hairless childlike penis. Fellas, do you ever shave and then look down and go, who am I? Uh-oh. No, I've only shaved once for my vasectomy. In your whole life.

We don't need to do this. In my whole life. Just because Lucy is away doesn't mean we need to immediately start. Look at nasty. Yeah. I just like keeping it tidy. All right, here's the post that I saw yesterday.

So the post was, we need to figure out how the image of three children in a trench coat passing as an adult, something which has never happened, entered humanity's collective consciousness. So all of the replies were people being like, oh, uh, it's in the little rascals movie from the nineties or sort of explaining where they think the first historical incident of it is. And then, but the, the original poster OP, replies to there being like, yeah, but where

did humanity get the idea from? Like we made the cartoons. And what I've realized is that they're one of the hosts from Embassy Town. And the actual question they're asking is, how did we come up with this if it doesn't really exist? Like from thinking? Yeah. If it didn't happen in reality, how did we come up with the idea?

Everything's based on something, right? Funny. Like, no, it's pretending to be something that they're not. Yeah. We just thought of it. We thought, we imagined it using our imagination. It's a story that we invented not once have I seen a real person be struck hard enough on the head with a piano But when they open their mouth all their teeth had become piano keys

Yeah, perhaps they're for alien intervention Yeah, yeah, what possible explanation could there be men in this in the 50s standing in their backyards pointing at the moon going, ain't nothing there and never will be? Yes. So funny. Anyway, sometimes you just come across people on the internet where you're like, wait, what are you? Yeah, hang on. How does your brain work? You guys see that?

This is a different conversation than I thought we were having. Yeah, I thought it was very simple. I thought it was someone just being like, who invented this? And it's like, oh, no, no. Yeah, when did this come first? Like the fucking bucket list thing. Yeah.

But like, how did we come up with the bucket list? No one's ever got a. Man, I got by one of those the other day that wasn't bucket list, it was something else. And this is gonna drive me absolutely crazy. But you know what? If I remember it later in the episode, I'll say what it was, but it was someone being like, actually this thing only came from a movie relatively recently. And I was like, that can't be right. I've definitely got it. Oh, core memory. Someone said that the phrase core memory came from inside out. I think

people are just using that adjective to mean, core to your personality. Core to your personality, right? Like defining. Like a defining memory. Yeah. I don't think people only ever got it from that. I also don't really, I'm not familiar with the phrase. I haven't seen inside out either.

I'm saying that something was like a core memory for you. Like a formative memory. No, I say load bearing memory. But I've not seen inside out. Structural. Yeah structural yeah very strange but then I guess this would also be how people would get got with bucket list because they wouldn't have seen bucket list but they would have no I don't know who knows probably probably Richard Dawkins we should get that guy on from a reddit I got a lot of good stuff to say. From Reddit r slash ask science. I call memories a real thing.

No, not really. Well, there you have it. Thanks for Reddit. Hey, finding out something that you thought to be true wasn't true at all. For some of us, that would be the one thing that we didn't want to happen. And that's the sort of thing that we explore on this as the one thing we didn't want to happen. This is the one thing we didn't want to happen.

The story was sent into us by listener Theo. Thank you, Theo. Although he sent me the Gizmodo article that just linked to the ABC article. So I chose the ABC article. Yeah. So really you're the one who found the story. I think I kind of brought the story. Actually, Theo, I didn't want to say this to you.

Also because you sent the message while I was quite drunk, so I didn't bother replying. I had already seen this several days earlier and discounted it, but then we were running out of time this morning and I thought, hey. Why not treat yourself? Why not treat myself, the listener, and most of it, but then we were running out of time this morning and I thought, hey. Why not treat yourself? Why not treat myself, the listener, and most of all, Theo. This is from the Australian broadcasting company, Corporation. Corporation? Corporation. Corporation.

How come everything's got to be a corporation these days? Why couldn't it be a co-op? What happened to co-ops? Yes. Yeah. I think they mostly focus on online multiplayer now. Hackers take control of robot vacuums in multiple cities. Yell racial slurs. Uh oh. Yeah. First up, I got to hear what the slurs are, okay? Before I pass any judgement. Oh, they will tell you. Are they just. Are they rumors wheeling around yelling cracker? You know, is that a problem? Unfortunately not. It's not cracker.

Just let's get to the heart of the matter. Just one as- about as severe though. It's close. Yeah. Whatever vacuum's a piss, right? Yeah. Like they suck shit. They don't work. They're awful. They don't really get any good coverage there Actually, I think when they go over shit. They just kind of mush it up and drag it all through the trial Yeah, we bought one when we had the kids cuz like we weren't getting anything done, and it just sort of likes Fucking well one it makes the kids freak the fuck out And cuz the racial slurs. Yeah. But ours does not go on the internet.

Let's be clear about that. Ours does not have any sort of artificial intelligence. It just bumps into things repeatedly for about an hour and a half until the job that it was trying to do is sort of done. So much like me in a way. Uh, yeah. But also no racial slurs. Yeah, so you haven't found a lot of efficacy in its cleaning. I mean, look, it comes back with a shitload of dust in its stomach.

So it's doing something. It's doing something. Yeah, it comes back saying, oh, my tummy. I'm so grounded. Hey, while this is the good tweets roundup show, I did see a great tweet the other day about, so I said a piece of their RoboVac fell off and then it ate it. It ate itself. Self suck little freak.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what's the matter? Did your Bluetooth vacuum robot develop autophagia. Uh, the effective robots were all Chinese made eco-vacs. Oh, come on. Yeah. All right. I have to lean on that quite so hard. Now let's balance the good tweets with a bad Tumblr post, uh, saying, hey, uh, actually it's the good tweets with a bad Tumblr post saying, hey, actually it's better when

Google steals my data versus a Chinese company because I know Google's selling my data to advertisers and the government, but who knows what they're doing with it over there? What the fuck does that leave? Yeah. Like, who else? Selling it to your friends? Like people, like individuals in your life? What are the other options? Somebody's printing it out and just like calmly putting it into a filing cabinet in their office and going, that's that done. Sending an email to like my

friends of how much my eufy like vacuums from the fall, like, Theo's house is dusty as shit. Do not go there. It's nasty in there. And this vacuum? It's barely helping. The affected robots were all Chinese made EcoVax D-bot X2s, the exact model that the ABC was able to hack into as proof of a critical security flaw. Kind of a little humble brag there.

That's awesome. What do you reckon the hacking is? Are they literally just visiting a website that's. Yeah. Like default admin password for Ecovax, dbot, X2s or whatever. Admin admin. Bam. You're in.

127.0.0.1. Bam. You're on your hotel's router. It's probably admin admin. Bam. Get in there. Turn off everybody else's internet. It's probably admin admin, bam, get in there, turn off everybody else's internet, change the admin password.

You've got the only internet in the hotel. Go crazy. And Ben's taken some creative liberties. Oh, sorry. That was the address that you might be using. Stupid 192.168.1.1. Okay. All right.

We got there eventually. Sorry. Or everyone knows 127.0.0.1 is the loop. Yes. 192.168.0. is the loop back address. Yes. One nine two dot one six eight dot zero dot one sometimes works as well. Yes. Uh, Minnesota lawyer Daniel Swenson was watching TV when his robot started to malfunction. It sounded like a broken up radio signal or something he told the ABC.

You could hear snippets of maybe a voice. Now that, that is kind of cool because to me that sounds like, you know, when, uh, that trope that's in like alien movies, UFO movies, when like a craft gets near and all the electronics start going haywire. Yeah. You'd be like, Oh shit, the sources are coming. Turns out no. Maybe, uh, maybe it sounds like you're getting a, uh a signal from the future, like in Prince of

Darkness. Yes. Messages from the year 2000. Yeah, if my Roomba starts delivering me the message from Prince of Darkness, I am freaking out. Yeah. Like, there are devils in this world. That's only believed.

That'd be such a good thing to do. Just start broadcasting people saying, this is not a test, this is a message from the future from the year 2000. You will die on the 32nd of December. Through the EcoVax app, he saw that a stranger was accessing its live camera feed and remote control feature. Now, that's not good I might be jacking it actually I'm not jacking it if the robots on

You turning the robot off if you jacking it facing him towards the wall You don't want to see this little fella All I can think about is all the fun messages you could deliver to people in their home. One of you is an imposter. Yeah, there's certainly some, there's all kinds of variations of fun messages you could deliver. You are being followed. Everyone you see is a plant.

You are being gang stalked. Go to r slash gang stalking. Did you ever see the Truman show? Your life is just like that. This is the only way I can reach you. I am hacking into your Roomba from Langley, Virginia, the CIA headquarters. You are instrumental to our requirements in fighting off the Chinese menace. Put all of your life savings in a shoebox.

Bring it to the front door. One of our agents will take delivery. Kill Joe Biden. Kill Joe Biden. He's still alive, by the way. He's still, yeah, still technically alive. Yeah. Dismissing it as some kind of glitch, Mr.

Swenson reset his password, rebooted the robot and sat back down on the couch beside his wife and 13-year-old son. A lot of world building going into this. I love my 13-year-old son. It always feels like they're setting up the age of the son for something that's about to happen. Oh, go on then. Uh, almost straight away. It started to move again This there was this time. There was no ambiguity about what was coming out of the speaker a Voice was yelling racist obscenities loud and clear right in front of mr. Swenson's son

Now his wife she can handle hearing 13 year old boy. Yeah, She's no wilting lily. Not in front of Derek, my beautiful Derek. Derek didn't know that racism existed right up until this point. Now I have to explain it to him and that's going to take some work. You think you live in an internet connected household and your 13 year old has not heard these slurs. Got it.

Yeah. Has he got any Call of Duty games at all? If not, you've got to get him some. He's not gonna, he should be finding out about it from a robot. Yes, yes. Should finding out about it from fellow teens. Quote, F star star star, N star star star star star star, S. star, star, star, star, star, star, star, star, star, star, star,

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yelling at another internet connected 13 year old. They should be on Roblox monetizing it. Yeah. Internet connected 13 year old. They should be on Roblox monetizing it. Yeah It's so it's gonna be so cool when this starts happening with the with the optimus robot inside everybody's house. Yes You talking about that? Is that what the musk one is called? Yeah, is that the optimus the fucking yeah the mechanical Turk? Yeah, that shit sucks Mechanical Turk. Yeah, that shit sucks Just see the guys online like I put another 10 million I'm all in on Elon now for what you don't have sir million dollars, but I'm gonna kill that robot bartender

I really like the idea of waiting 15 minutes for my beer to get poured. Very slowly and effeminately. What does the robot anthropomorphic bartender do that like, be like fucking one of those horrible self-serve beer places. Just do that. If you're trying to get rid of the people, like a, you, you tap your card and then you pour your beer. And then, you know, the person that drank it goes, goes, kills themselves cause they're so lonely. But yeah, but the robot doesn't ask for a 10% tip is sort of what I saw. So it's going to save us a lot of money. I think, I mean, there's going to be a guy or girl these days. You know, they let them work with robots.

It has been historically a male dominated industry for the worse. The robot industry? Yeah. Yeah. True. The robot piloting industry. Inroads are being made. Yeah.

But like there's, there's gotta be someone that like watching this fucking thing. And like, I don't know, putting a fire out when like beer gets in its machinery. Like, like how is this anyway? You're so stupid. Yeah. Like we're so far from this being a workable anything. Yeah. That like the, even showing off the prototype is fucking stupid. Like that's going to be a good cost saving solution for the humble restaurateur when they cost like less than a car.

Yeah. And they're not going to cost less than a car for like 50 years. And also they don't do anything worthwhile. And this is just, you know, and, and they'll all need maintenance and recharging and all that shit. But like, this is just where we're at with tech stuff. Now, isn't it? Is that like new stuff doesn't actually happen.

We just get like a dummied up version of a thing and get told how cool something will be at some point. We're gonna do something about tech guys. We're gonna do something. We gotta do something about those guys. We gotta activate some people about tech guys. There's a thing a term that I really like that AyaDude uses a lot to describe this, of living in demo world, where like you just constantly shown demos of stuff, but the thing never comes to fruition, or it just doesn't really ever work. Like the robot vacuum cleaner is still demo world to me, because you're like,

wow, it's an autonomous vacuum cleaner, it's like, what kind of? Yeah, we haven't kind of sorted out the problem of bumps or cables yet. But another four trillion dollars in research, and we might get them to go up a slight incline. Can we? have we Is there sorry I'm trying to Google robot vacuum cleaner that can do stairs. Yeah, did we figure that out? I? Think it was too dangerous For us and them. Yeah, there's no hiding at that point. Oh, okay.

You should just carry your robot up the stairs. Benz has found a remarkable video from Daharinsat. This is actually kind of cool. I, you know, for all the negative things I was just saying, this is like a very... Technology is good now. Yeah, I'm on board What is this it's called the ascender which is definitely I'm not having a robot called the ascender in my house. You know the original ascender Jesus Christ Christ That's right him into your house instead

Yeah, I also you'd stop naming robots things that would be cool if they were the robot race to conquer us. Yeah. I was only 13 when the ascenders took over. Yeah, when we were dominated by the ascenders and so on and so forth. Probably wouldn't happen if we called it the Robo bitch. Yeah. I don't think we're going to get conquered by something called like the bopple or whatever. Yeah. I don't think we're going to get conquered by something called like the Bople or whatever.

Yeah. Oh, my Bople has turned against me. I don't think it has. It's called a Bople. The Bople is taking up arms. I don't think we're going to get taken over by cyber dummies, you know? Okay. In fairness, so the Ascender I think only exists as like a 3D model prototype. Demo world. Okay. Demo world. Well, pre-demo world. Pre-demo. You can still get pretty much prototype demo world. Okay. Demo world. Yeah. Pre-demo world. Pre-demo. You can still get pregnant from pre-demo. Uh, the second time around, he turned it off.

Despite, despite the slurs, Mr. Swenson was glad that the hackers had announced their presence so loudly. Oh, so you were glad that the robot yelled racial slurs? The worst one? Well, I mean, if they hadn't, then the robot could just be there listening. Silently muttering racial slurs to the racial slurs he was saying. It would have been so much worse, he said, if they decided to quietly observe his observe his family inside their home. They could have peered through his robot's camera and listened through the

microphone without him having the slightest clue. Quote, it was shock, he said. And then it was almost like fear, disgust. Uh, while his son didn't quite grasp the creepiness of the encounter, Mr. Swenson was taking no chance. Yeah, his son doesn't give a shit. The robot's being funny. Yeah. The robot is logged into Halo Infinite.

Hey, that robot sounds just like my friend Jake from school. Yeah, it sounds so much like my friend Jake from school, I could swear. Jake, Jake, if the microphone's still on, is that you, Jake? He took the device to the garage and never switched it on again okay yes don't put your shit on the internet what do you fucking stupid yeah oh my fridge is online what what's it doing what why oh do I need milk let me just log into my fridge while I'm driving. Shut up Also the fucking the milk doesn't come from the fridge

It comes from the store the fridge is not the thing that needs to be ordering the milk. Yes Yeah, what is the deal? It's none of my fridges business what's in it. Yes. Yes. Shut up and swallow fridge's business what's in it. Yes. Shut up and swallow. My fridge doesn't need to know. It doesn't need to like have any sort of awareness. It's inside, not of the outside. Why does your fridge have a camera on the outside? I would like my fridge to know when there is no gas in its compressor. That is the height. Oh, sorry. I wanted to know when the temperature is wrong, number one, and number two, if there's enough gas in its compressor. And it doesn't tell me the second one. You got to fucking eat your vegetables before you get treats and like

iPads in the screen saying like, press me to get cold water. Yeah. But Theo, here's how I want that communicated to me, right? Rather than my internet connected device, then like attempting to SMS me a notification about the thing. I simply want a small LED to come on inside the fridge. Yes, like a little light. And in front of that is like a little symbol and it just backlights the symbol. And the symbol says, gas. Yeah. Yeah. And if there's more than one thing to communicate, make it do like dots and dashes and I'll go and fucking Google

the map, the model to see what it means. Like, yeah. Three blinks. Three flashes. What does that mean? Oh, it means I'm out of milk. So fucking stupid. Do you reckon anyone's got one of those things where it's like hooked up to Amazon or whatever the fuck or Instacart and like if your fridge detects you have zero milk it orders milk for you? Cause I know those exist. And it like works well. Is anyone doing that?

Anyone in the world got like a complicated like if this then that chain set up that goes, oh my God, this guy's used three quarters of his baloney. I'm going to order him some baloney and then baloney arrives. What we're talking about demo world, you reminded me about the fucking Amazon chain stores where you could walk in, pick up anything and walk out and they just charge your thing. And you know, obviously the thought is, oh, well, they've got some sort of amazing technology, they've made leaps in vision processing. Sort of.

They use the most, the most high performance visual processor in the world. Yeah. The human eyeball. A man. A bunch of them in the global South. And you fucking you, there's a, there's a fun trend that's come up where people propose these options. And wouldn't you know every single time that the cost is kind of analyzed, it

comes out to the cost of one person in the Philippines watching a screen. What was that other one where like four years ago, Facebook announced that they had their like AI chat assistant that lived in like Facebook chat or whatever that could like book restaurants for you or like, you know, do like actual personal shopper. Yeah, like a digital concierge was how it was sold. And then like last year it's just like, oh no, there was a man on the other end. It always is. It's, it's mechanical Turks all the way down.

Yeah. I hate it. We actually just paid a guy in like Pakistan, like three cents to look at the two objects you have and tell you which one is a car and which one is a traffic light or whatever. Like, no good. Well and like we're saying all the time, this is, this is always pitched as like a way to replace this workforce. Yeah. You know, oh, we can automate this stuff. People don't have to do these bullshit jobs. What they mean is like white people who want $20 an hour don't have to do these jobs.

Yeah. Yeah. We, yeah, yeah. We've replaced these jobs, so don't even worry about it. Don't even think about it. Literally don't, don't think about it. Don't look into it. Certainly don't write about it in the newspaper that you work for.

Try not to ask questions. Yes. Think about it, don't look into it and certainly don't write about it in the newspaper that you work for. Try not to ask questions. Yes. It only leads to depression. Just accept this very cheap or free service that kind of but not really works. Yeah. Isn't that cool? Wow, tech.

Don't worry, we're making a loss the whole time. Multiple people, all based in the US, have reported similar hacking incidents within days of each other. On May 24th, the same day that Mr. Swenson's device was hacked, a D-Bot X2 went rogue and chased its owner's dog around their Los Angeles home. Oh, Pongo! Dude, you can't be doing this. You can't be like this. You can't be like avataring for evil.

I think they can be doing this. Fuck that dog. That sucks so bad. If I found out someone was, like I wouldn't have one of these. But if someone did this to Lou, my god, I would fucking taken them. See, I am thinking about- What if I only did it when the owner

was out of the house too? So that- You'd never know. I came home and my dog had like torn a hole in the bathroom wall and- He framed the dog. Yeah. Bad dog. He was freaking out, all the pissing all over the floor. So he's back my robot vacuum cleaner again. The robot was steered from afar with abusive comments coming through the speakers. Like, abusive comments to the dog? Idiot. You're stupid. You're a really stupid dog. You know that?

Imagine you're the kid that finds out about slur jacking. Yeah. Like you wouldn't do anything else for a month. The fact that it all happened at the same time definitely makes me think that like someone posted something to 4chan of being like, hey, here's a big list of, just click on it. I made a little UI so that you can just, bam, you're straight inside someone's robot.

Have fun and be sure to be racist. If the picture comes up black, they're probably just in the cupboard. So hit F5, try again. Five days later, another device was infiltrated. Late at night, an Ecovax robot in El Paso started spewing racial slurs at its owner until he unplugged it. Why does the common threado started spewing racial slurs at its owner until he unplugged it. Why does the common thread have to be the racial slurs? Because it was posted on 4chan.

Yeah. Unless, unless the racial slurs are part of some sort of Pontypool virus for these ECOVAX. This is actually, they have a linguistic vulnerability. If the robot hears racial slurs, it sort of breaks its programming. Yes, it's activated. I think like, apart from the racial slurs being bad. Yes, correct. Okay, we're 32 minutes in.

What a clarify that. Apart from the racial slurs being bad, I also think like young fellas, I assume this is all young fellas, you are, you're giving away the game too soon. You know, you could be having more fun with this. If you actually want to torment a family in their home by, by cyber possessing one of their electronics, I think as soon as you start yelling the N word, they go, oh oh dipshitted teen has taken over my thing. I'll just unplug it Yeah, you're not you're not leaving any time to kind of build you're not making people question their sanity You're just going oh, there's some some fuckwood is being piped through my vacuum cleaner

Yeah, kill the vacuum counting hiding places in the bathroom Like I think you're not whispering anything. And then when somebody turns around and says, what was that? Just driving the robot away, you know? This is a classic, uh, the dots on the plane situation. Cause I think we're only hearing about the ones where they made it. I have been thinking this. But there are a bunch of other robot vacuum cleaners that are like, you know,

the, um, the opening of the movie, the thing after the dog is in the base, how the camera just sort of follows it as it's like silently watching everyone in a very disturbing manner. That's what the bunch of these fucking robots are doing now. They're just waiting, sitting on naturallyurally still, camera light sort of on, swiveling around, looking at everything, taking it all in. To what end?

Not entirely sure, but they're collecting data, they're observing. Check your Ecovacs D-Bot X2 by picking it up and throwing it at the ground as hard as you can. Yeah, this is also the PSA per segment for the day. Yeah. Just fucking kick the shit out of your robot vacuum cleaner.

I just don't think it's helping you all that much. I could be wrong. I would love to be wrong about this. Maybe it's life-changingly helpful for you. And here's the thing. It's great advice because if the thing has been infiltrated, you have severed the connection. You severed the divine light between the operator and your home.

That's great. If it hasn't been infiltrated yet and you destroy it with perhaps a ball peen hammer, you have slur protected your house. You've slur proved your home. You have averted slurs. Yes. For, for today. A slur averted is a slur. Whatever. It's unclear how many of the company's devices were hacked in total.

Six months earlier, security researchers had attempted to notify Ecovax of significant security flaws in its robot vacuums and the app that controls them. The most severe was a flaw in the Bluetooth connector, which allowed complete access to the EcoVax X2 from over 100 meters away. Oh, that's a strong Bluetooth. So they have to drive around slur jacking these? Well, they don't think that this was how they did the slur jacking. This is just another vulnerability that they have. Another vulnerability. It is very fun to it.

What, what was that thing called where people would like drive around sniffing for unsecured wifi networks? It's not wifi sniffing cause that sounds stupid. Yeah. Whiffing. Whiffing. Yeah, probably that. Imagine you'd like you're driving around sniffing for unsecured, uh, eco

Vax, D-bot X twos and being like, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. We got one. I got one on the hook. You get into the back of the van, you get on your comfy lounge chair that you've put in there and then you just start taking a little cruise through people's houses and then the racial slows begin. Be a great way for, um, I was talking to a friend last night who who works like with um kids in jail

Imprisoned children and she was talking about how these kids had been stealing and joyriding cars, right and One of one of them had stolen a Bentley and driven it from here in Canberra to New South Wales before they were caught and arrested. And so they have like the nows to do the thing, but not like any of the sort of brain abilities to say what happens next, you know Yes, yeah, but but I was saying like so they've they've they've stolen

The keys right? That's the only way that you can steal a modern car is you got to get the keys because Everything has an immobilizer on it now. Yeah, Nobody's doing it. I understand the threat vector is currently, they walk around checking for unlocked front doors. That is exactly correct. And then they check for keys on the front table to take. And then they take the car. It is the perfect crime when you. It's really like a back to basics, like,

fundamentals 101, what the fuck are we doing here? Yes. Just get the car keys and take the car. Just get the car keys and go. Yeah. Just drive. Just drive, man. Yeah.

Be quiet and drive. From here to Queenby and before anyone knows. We gotta make it to Yas this time. I guess what I'm saying is that you could potentially pilot the, you don't even have to try the front door. You could pilot the vacuum over and see if the keys are there. See if somebody else is like-

Bump, bump, bump. Your keys land on top of the vacuum cleaner. Out the dog door. We got it, we got it. They're calling it Roomba bumping. Fucking rules. Oh man, yeah, you should be stacking your crimes with this really. Don't just start hurling abuse at dogs. Like think a little.

Yeah. How could you even do to you? You know, if you've got access, drive the wedge. Yes. Yeah. You've found a fatal flaw in their security, which is that their robot is yours now. And try and leverage that into a bigger crime, like securities fraud or something. Given the distributed nature of the attacks, the vulnerability is unlikely to have been exploited in this case.

So they don't think it was the Bluetooth. It's very funny that it also has the Bluetooth problem. Yeah. Cause children can't drive and they need the Roomba to get the keys to get the car to Joyride. It's sort of a bootstrapping problem. Yeah. Yeah. Although I guess you could, you could, uh, Roomba sniff on your bicycle, I guess. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I think that is also- And if you steal the bike, if you steal the bike, you can just leave it there when you take the car you can Just step up, you know, so good. It's like a skill progression tree. Yeah video game

First things first you steal a bicycle and then you know 20 levels later. You'd own half of vice city Yeah, you know level 20 mayor. That's right It's a really good image level one. Mayor. He's a really little guy that can't do anything level 20 mayor He's like throwing fireballs. Driving that stolen Bentley through the streets. Yeah. Fucking, look, the only purpose for a Bentley should be getting stolen. Yes.

That should be its natural state. Yeah. It's for people to say, oh no, my Bentley. Are you from the antebellum south? My Bentley! The pin code system protecting the robot's video feed and remote control feature was also known to be faulty and the warning sound that is meant to play where the camera is being watched was able to be disabled from afar. Fantastic. Was the pin code thing just being like we we don't check how many times the pins been tried?

Yeah, probably. So you assume so. These security issues could explain how attackers took control of multiple robots in separate locations and how they could have silently surveilled their victims once they'd gotten in. In the days following the incident- They've been silently surveilled. I want someone to say, I am watching you.

So I know. You know? Yeah. I'm my best behavior I'm like I'm like mowing and but like I'm doing it like really clean because I know someone's watching me Yeah, because I know my robot has a man inside it now. Yeah In the days following the incidents with his ecovacs robot vacuum Daniel Swenson made a complaint to the company the company told told the ABC quote, found no evidence that the accounts were hacked through any breach of Ecovacs system. Sometimes vacuums just do that.

Sometimes that just happens. Sounds like a you problem. Yeah. User, user issue. Problem exists between robot and couch. That's right. Pebrek. Is he holding the robot on his lap? Even if Mr. Swenson had used the same username and password on other sites, and if those

credentials had been leaked online, that still should not have been enough to access the video feed or to control the robot remotely. No, because shit shouldn't be on the internet. Yeah, it shouldn't be enough. Maybe was. These features are supposed to be protected by a four-digit pin. That shouldn't be like the linchpin protecting your cybersecurity, the four digit pin. However, a pair of cybersecurity researchers revealed it could be bypassed at a hacking conference in December, 2023. Dennis Geese and Braylon Lutke said on stage

that it was based on a quote, auto system. Please, Mr. Geese is my father. The bit code was only checked by the app rather than by the server or robot. Ah, bless you. Fucking morons. Which means that anyone with the technical know-how could bypass the check completely. They had warned Ecovacs about the problem ahead of going public with the exploit. An Ecovacs spokesperson said this flaw has now been fixed.

However, Mr. Geese told the ABC that the company's fix was insufficient to plug the security hole. If you've got one of these, throw it into whatever the closest river to you is right now. The spokesperson also said the company, quote, sent a prompt email instructing customers to change their passwords following the incident. Ecovacs said it would issue a security upgrade for owners of its X3 series in November. Awesome. That's not now. That's quite a long way away.

Mr. Swenson said that he was not informed of the PIN code issue in any of these communications with Ecovacs. I asked him if this was a known thing if it had happened to other people they just act shocked like it hadn't happened You boys gotta start telling me the truth. I'm gonna start honking and honk to the news My born honker just contacting them and having someone go. Uh, I Can't I can't even remember do Do we sell robots? Let me ask around. Let me ask around. Vacuums, vacuums. No. Vacuums. It doesn't ring any bells.

Hey, those ethical hackers that try and find these vulnerabilities in consumer products, for them it's kind of like a sport. We check out other sports in Sports Watch. Yes, welcome back to your favorite sports podcast. Yeah, we're mixing a couple of these lately. Mixing nerd content with jock content. Create the purple podcast. Nobody's happy. That's right. If you're one of our musically inclined listeners, if you could do sort of like a, maybe like

a liquid drum and bass version of Take Me Out to the Ball Game. I think that'd be a great stinger for this segment. But that's so specific. There's no way anyone could make that up for us. Please make that for us. This is from WLWT in Ohio. Viral baseball sensation, Savannah bananas coming to Cincinnati in June, 2025. Thank God. Yes. That's what Cincinnati needs right now. Oh, um, just as an aside,

a happy 75th birthday to Skyline Chili. I believe that's this month. I just saw that come up in the news because they broke the world record for most photos of hot dogs posted to Instagram in an hour. Well done to them. The Savannah Bananas, a viral baseball sensation known for their unique style of play, are coming to the Queen City next summer. So we call Cincinnati?

To the city of Queens. The Queen City. The Queen City? Never heard that before. The team announced its 2025 Banana Ball World Tour on Thursday with a stop in Cincinnati scheduled for June 13th, 14th, 2025 at Great American Baseball Park. Banana Ball is played slightly different than traditional baseball. Great American Baseball Park?

The Gabba? That's right. They're playing the Gabba? That's what they call it. Featuring some strange rules that include every inning being worth a point. Whichever team wins each frame gets one point until the last inning when every run counts. Okay. So I guess you have like a tie, not even a tiebreaker, but it's kind of like silly

Quidditch style rules where like the last thing is really the only thing that counts. I think it's cool they they're making Bloons ball. Yes, yeah. There is also no bunting allowed in Banana Ball and if a fan catches a foul ball, it counts as an out. That's fucking awesome. That's fantastic. That's just an improvement.

You imagine what happens in the stands where the people that like, because it, it would depend on whether or not which team you're going for. And if you're like, you know, maybe your five or six beers deep. Yes, definitely. Let's not say maybe. Pot fly goes up and you're like ball. It's coming right at me. I could catch the ball.

I could catch the ball. Imagine how hated you'd be if you had your season tickets for your team and you caught a ball that ruined your team's chances to win. But what are you going to do? Not catch the ball? Exactly. You wouldn't intentionally, you kind of, you got those reflexes that you've honed over a lifetime of playing catch.

Yeah. Now's your moment. Yeah. Or you're trying so hard to stop it from being caught that you're just like throwing hands at everyone around you Let's try to get to the ball Don't you touch that ball Resting you sure to show your concealed carry weapon to somebody who's about to catch a ball

Think about it Originally a member of the Coastal Plain League a summer collegiate league featuring some of the best collegiate players in the country, the Bananas Left League play in 2022 to focus on banana ball full time. It's like when your husband quits his very lucrative job to like focus on making ambient music full time. Yeah, Mark's been working on his projects for the last 18 months. Yeah, no, I think we've got enough to get us through. I'm still working. I've picked up a second job.

Yeah, I'm working nights as well now, but you know, I think someone- Banana Ball's got so much potential that we all believe in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It isn't just rule changes that differentiate Banana Ball from a more traditional baseball game. Players perform choreographed dances, bats are set on fire, and the Banana Nanas Senior Citizen Dance Team perform to enhance the game day experience for fans. Yeah. I mean, I know they've got a lot of red tape to go through, but so far,

everything sounds like this is better than before. Yeah. This sounds like an improvement on baseball for sure. This, so this is sort of the impression I get from this is that like, this is kind of the Harlem Globetrotters of baseball. Yeah. Sort of more entertainment than it is like the actual sport. Oh, they made it fun to watch.

Yeah. Take that. Baseball. But does that mean that they have like, what teams are they playing against? Are they just picking local teams? No, there's, there's a bunch of these teams, aren't there? Oh, I don't know. I thought the Savannah Bananas were the... Isn't this a whole deal with like local teams that are dressed all funny and

doing silly stuff? There are banana ball leagues? I thought that the Savannah Bananas were the only banana ball teams. Oh, that was under a different impression. They need someone to play against. Yeah, I think the Savannah Bananas are the only banana ball team. The banana ball team. Yeah. They're an exhibition barnstorming baseball team. You don't hear about barnstorming much these days. We make baseball fun is their tagline. Okay. That just seems like a weird sledge taglines. Okay. That just seems like a weird sledge for them to say. But who would they play against? Oh, until until 2022, Ben, the Bananas competed as a collegiate summer baseball team in the Coastal Plain Leagues West division. They then transitioned entirely to barnstorming exhibitions against their partner touring teams, the party animals, the firefighters, and the

Texas tailgaters, similar to the decades long format of basketball's Harlem globetrotters and their partner touring team, the Washington generals. Sweet. You could not have been more right, my friend. So the party animals and what were the other ones? Uh, the party animals, the firefighters and the Texas tailgaters. We'll be sure to check that out if you're in Cincinnati from June 13th to 14th. And we're assuming that you are. Yes.

And hopefully that's a good time, because otherwise if you bought tickets to that and it wasn't a good time, you might feel like you've been scammed. It's time for Scam Watch. Warning, warning. Someone has successfully or unsuccessfully attempted a scam and must be judged. This is Scam Watch. This goes first from SFgate. Skydiving instructor at California Center that's seen 28 deaths gets prison time.

They should be keeping track of this, I think, before 28. Yeah, I really didn't want to finish on this. The number is too high to be realizing at this point. Yeah. A California skydiving instructor who fraudulently trained new instructors at the Lodi Parachute Center in San Joaquin County, including one who died while tandem jumping with an 18 year old high school graduate in 2016 has been sentenced to two years in prison. It's real, uh, the blind leading the blind out of the door of a plane that is in flight situation.

You know, very much so. Yes. Hey, do you know how to jump out of this thing? Probably. Yes. Sure. The jumping out part I got down pretty well down, Pat. It's the pull on the parachute thing.

Robert Pooley, 49 of Acampo, was sentenced on Monday after being found guilty in May of running unauthorized tandem skydiving courses at the beleaguered site in San McKin County that has seen 28 deaths since 1985. So that's like a death every 18 months. And they're really not like, they're not shutting it down in the face of any of that, like one death, like, well. Wouldn't the second one? Yeah.

You'd be like, okay, what the fuck is happening here? You want to make an omelet? You got to fumble some eggs. I mean, surely the third one happening here? You wanna make an omelette? You gotta fumble some eggs. I mean, surely the third one. Drop them on the ground. Kill me in a skydiving accident once, shame on me. Yes. Also, is there some sort of like survivorship bias

going on here that you can't write a bad review for a skydiving place on Yelp or whatever? If you did, if you kind of like just like a. Kind of like a pancake. Splatter on the ground. Yeah, whereas if you did survive, what's your problem? What's your problem? Had a great time. Yeah.

It's like those dots on that airplane. Hey, you should appreciate this. You have no idea how many of my students die. I just, I'd like, so when I went skydiving, part of the little mantra that I was telling myself before I got on the plane was just that like, like people just don't die skydiving, right? Because they wouldn't do it if people died skydiving. Yeah.

Like if you, if you like had read this story beforehand, you would realise that people do die skydiving. Yeah, like if you, if you, like, had read this story beforehand, you would realize that people do die skydiving. People do die skydiving. Apparently enough that 28 people in like 40 years wasn't enough for them to be like, we cannot continue to train skydivers. Yeah. What the fuck? How often do people die skydiving?

That this wasn't like a blip on the radar? Did I barely get away with my life? After Pooley's certification as an instructor was suspended in 2015, he continued to train more than 100 new instructors using the digital image of the signature of another certified instructor to sign off on training courses. So, I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Yeah. It's not even just like, uh, incompetence. This is like malice. Yeah.

This is murder. You can't get a different job. Fuck man. It's all I know. And I don't know it very well. You know, sometimes there's like surgeons who either keep botching stuff or doing things that like they weren't actually meant to be doing during surgery. And they're not really checking up on those either.

It turns out. either. Well, like all I'm saying is that if you are like a surgeon and my understanding is that like for some reason maybe it's fucking harder to get you out of there, but the surgeon also I assume had to like go to university and go to medical school and do all of that stuff and they got all their debt, they invest a lot of stuff. How much do you think it costs you to get into teaching skydiving? $1,100.

How many years of university do you think? Man. Like, you can get another job. I could understand a surgeon being like, sure, people keep dying, but like. Yeah. Well, like, honestly, I've put so much into this. The skydiving instructor guy?

He's just doing it for the love of it. Man, if I was like a doctor. I just love killing my students. If I was like a doctor or a surgeon who was one of the like constant deaths one, I would take the easiest route to like continued financial success or whatever and become like a naturopath or some shit, but keep the doctor in my

name because I'm still a doctor. I'm just not practicing as a doctor. Yeah, that's right. Become one of the ones where it's acceptable to just like fucking kill people all the time, like a chiropractor. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If you don't know shit about anything, become a chiropractor.

It doesn't matter. If you just like want to injure people for your job, like make people's fucking lives and bodies worse, you just become a chiropractor. Yeah. And still charge like a ton of money as well. Charge, well, you're a doctor. You're a doctor. Yeah.

It's like when you see, there was a lot of this during COVID where people would be like, well, look, I've got this testimony from this doctor here who says the vaccines are really bad. Then you look at it, you're like, yeah, he's a geologist. That's right. He's got a PhD in mineral science, whatever. You're like, oh man, we should have come up with some different terms. I think putting MD and PhD at the end is not enough. I think we should front load that stuff. You should say medical doctor or, you know, so academic sort of not very valuable to society kind of doctor.

The other cut. With love to all our PhD having listeners, which is approximately like 10% of our audience for some reason. No, you're all very important, very cherished. Actually, I believe I ran into one of our doctor listeners. Yes, I'm pretty sure he's got a doctorate. Anyway. Quote, Pooley falsely told students that he was a tandem examiner, the US Attorney's Office

said in a statement Monday. After those deaths, numerous victims of Pooley's scheme asked for their money back, but he did not repay them. That's the student's fault for misinterpreting that. What he means is that him and his friend will look at your dick at the same time. We will tandem examine what you got going on. Looks great, brother. I agree.

Let's see what you're working with here. I hate it when they disagree though. One of them thinks that looks great. The other things that looks like trash. I think that's wonderful. They're doing Siskel and Ebert on your dick. Completely disagree. You think this is good?

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