Boonta Vista - EPISODE 39: The Dipshit Dossier, Vol 2

Episode Date: March 19, 2018

Welcome back to the second instalment of the Dipshit Dossier! This week we're looking at the journalistic oeuvre of the Daily Telegraph's Caroline Marcus. Please, remember these immortal words: "Journalist Caroline Marcus in a fat suit". Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Don't forget to rate & subscribe on iTunes if that's your thing. _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Quantum Vista Socialist Club, episode 39. I'm here with Ben. Hello. Hi Ben, how are you? I'm very well, thank you. I'm very curious. All I can hear in my headphones is my neighbor's Whipper Snipper and I don't really know how much that is coming through for you guys but it is is powerful on my end. Well

interestingly I can hear all the cicadas around your house but no Whipper Snipper. I demonstrably the Whipper is far loud of the cicadas and I don't know how that's happening but I assume there is some magical quality to these specific cicadas outside my house that make them go on podcast recordings. Either that or the interior of your apartment is littered with crickets all making noise right now. Either way we'll never know. I'm also joined by Lucy. Hi we call him we call him cicadas here in Victoria. That's a fucking joke. It sounds funny to me when you say cicada, but I feel like majority, majority may rule

in this scenario. Oh, I was just doing that for the other guys in Camber we call them sicketers. Chichada. I wish it was. The old Chichidays. And of course, of course we have lovely Theo. Hi Theo. Hey, how you. I'm good. I'm alright. Okay.

I'm acceptable. I'm perfectly crumulent. I feel like you would take it off guard because no one ever asks how you're doing. Yeah, that's right. I am the mother of the podcast, doing everybody's emotional and physical labor for them. I feel like I asked my mom how she's doing. Hi, mom, how are you? Also have you had a chance to do mine laundry? Uh, I'm assuming your mother doesn't do your laundry Ben and it'd be... It'd be extravagantly expensive to ship it there and the logistics

It wouldn't be good just a nightmare Logistical nightmare So today we are having a revisit a revisit of a revisit of a revisit of a revisit of a revisit of a revisit of a revisit of a recurring segment and this is only the second recurrence of it the very second installment of the second recurrence of it. The very second installment of, the dipshit dossier. The very first installment was dear friend of the show, Miranda Devine,

Dipshit of the highest order. We've covered her exploits in a fair bit of detail on this show. I'll be familiar with her and how very, very silly her opinions are. And we thought, who's someone else, who's very silly her opinions are and we thought who's someone else whose very silly opinions we could cover. The first person that came to mind was Andrew Bolt although Ben pointed something out about that didn't you Ben yeah his dad died very recently I mean I'm I'm very you know people are very quick to humanize people who is the output of their work generally, like negatively affects people.

People sort of ignore that if they display any sign of humanity or whatever. So normally I'm not super about that, but, holy fuck, Bolt did a seven to nine minute monologue about his relationship with his dad and his dad's inability to communicate that he loved him and their estrangement and how this affected Bolt's own relationship with his kids. And he tears up quite a few times and I watched it and was just devastated. It is the, it, oh, very sad stuff. So I was not hugely inclined a week after that happened to be like, hey, here's all the times, you're a cunt.

So we'll do that next week. Cut took the shine off the idea of just heaping shit on him for an hour. Yeah, and I mean he still deserves to have shit heaps on him by all means. He's not a good person, his net impact on the world is very bad, but I'm gonna give him some time to grieve because it sounds like he's having a pretty bad time. Give him a little window of respect for his, in his time of mourning and we'll come back to call him a huge dipshed at a later point. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So instead we thought who else? Who else is a big big old dipshit? And there are a lot of there are a lot of usual suspects that we could have gone through here. There is Mark Latham of course.

Although I do feel like we spent a fair bit of time talking about him on the show. There's also Dear Sweet Caleb and Daisy, Starcrossed, Starcrossed, Unrequited Friends, I guess I would say Star Cross lovers, but that ain't go on both ways, that whole deal. But we've also talked about them a fair bit too. We've covered the both ways, that whole deal. But we've also talked about them a fair bit, too. We've covered their articles and their foolishness in depth. But someone did spring to mind, particularly with a piece that came out in the last day or two.

And that was, journalist, you can't see me waving my fingers around doing air quotes, around my head wildly. Caroline Marcus, who does she write for, Ben? Who does she do things for? Currently I believe she's a presenter on Sky News. But she, like everyone that's a fucking turd in Australia, a column for the Daily Telegraph, and if it's not for the Telegraph, of course, it's for the Herald Sun. But yeah, so she's a huge piece of shit.

She's been a reporter for Channel 9, Sunday Telegraph, the Sunday Herald, a newspaper in Singapore, the Sunday Mail, she's all great collection of places. She was also a quote, unquote, journalist for a current affair. She's generally very unpleasant person and she sort of sprung to mind because she sort of kicked off this week's focus on South African reverse racism which has just been absolutely wonderful. So there's a whole lot to this in that it's been a big talking point of the alt-right for like a number of years and just with the right in general for quite a long time because this is the perfect sort of thing that they want, which is of course to say that reverse racism

is real and that white people are victims too and that they can't be racist against refugees because not all refugees are white. Sorry, I'm not white. Can I just take a quick moment though just to just to diverge into the thing that jumps out of me every time that this stuff comes up which is reverse racism isn't a thing. It still isn't a thing. If you're talking about, you know, people in Africa who are prejudiced against other people in Africa because of the color of their skin, it's still just racism. It's just regular old racism. That's fine. Like it's a weird sort of like accidentally showing your

cards kind of maneuver to me. Well, so theoretically, the way that you could use the term reverse racism in a way that made sense is that, like a full understanding of racism is that it comes from a power imbalance, right? So it's race-based oppression from a position of greater power, not just singling out people by race. So in theory, reverse racism would be like, oh, well, white is still a majority, but we won't let them speak on panels 100% or whatever, right?

But, I mean, for right-wing people to acknowledge that usage of the term, they would have to acknowledge that that is how racism works, that it comes from power structures, that it's not just, you know, it's not racist to be like, hey, you're a white person, you can't come to our POC only book club or whatever, they would have to, if they thought reverse racism was real that'd have to be like, oh, okay, well that's not really racism, right? Well, that's kind of my point though, is that it's sort of starting from a position of, oh, well, why people have a monopoly on racism, and then other people try and flip it around,

and use it against us, the pros. And we call that reverse racism. People try and hold up a mirror to the racism that we're the best at. It's a very strange thing to me because like, I don't know, it particularly, it seems like a thing that people have generally stopped saying as well, like reverse racism as a thing. Even, it seems like even a lot of right-wing and conservative people would now just say, ah well I'm you the real racist here about you know whatever silly examples I've got. But yeah the reverse racism thing to me just seems it seems like an almost childish level of appreciation of the nuances of race relations and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. It's proper silly.

It's proper silly. It's very silly. Anyway, it's so. Yeah, that was all kicked off by her writing this article for, I believe it was the telly. Reverse racism, real and deadly in South Africa. Which, so the contention is, well, so here's the opening paragraphs. Anyone who still denies reverse racism is real needs to look at what's happening in South Africa. White farmers are being tortured, gang raped and slaughtered in their own homes in terrifying numbers.

The situation has become so bleak being a farmer in South Africa is now the world's most dangerous job. There are no official figures. Great start. I really like that to go from, is now the most world's dangerous job to, and we, like that's based on nothing by the way. Yeah, we've got no data. So where they get the data from, because, oh, so this is it. There are now official figures thanks to a highly corrupt local government-a- Yeah, it's more the feeling. Which, I mean, not true. Like the fact checking on this has been that there's not really any data on it because they

don't record racial statistics for these sorts of crimes, but that's fine. But the figure they do cite is that the country's commercial farmers puts, sorry, the farm murder rate is 138 people per 100, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, not, not, not, not, not, not. the, not. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. It's. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. their. the the. their. their. their. th puts, sorry, the farm murder rate is 138 people per 100,000 and notice that data comes from the Transfile Agricultural Union, which is like explicitly a syndicate for the interests of white farmers, with some pretty racially charged support. Yeah, so I mean, it's not hugely trustworthy. This sort of shit came up first in like 2016 with Mike Surnovich bringing it up which he

got absolutely reamed for Africa check just like a fact-checking website for stuff that happens in Africa. Came at him and just said that no organization has declared that there is a white genocide underway in the country. Claims a white genocide are frequently attributed to genocide, watch an organization created to predict, prevent, stop and punish genocide and other forms of mass murder, but the organization has publicly stated that the white genocide is not underway in South Africa. Ooh. that the white genocide is not underway in South Africa.

No other organization has warned of a genocide or impending genocide in South Africa. This includes both the United Nations Office on Genocide Prevention Prevention and the Responsibility Project. So it's, it's, what a place to work the atrocity forecasting project. Sounds pretty grim. Ugh, the Bureau of Atrocibys. So, yeah, it's been a bit of a connoit for a while, but Australia has just sunk its teeth into it. Like two days after Marcus's column went up, Miranda Divide did almost exactly the same column,

but this time angry at Peter Dutton. Not being racist enough. Yeah, more or less. So her, the crux of her article was that Australia is not acting on it because the refugees are white. Some wonderful stuff in here. This is a rancid betrayal of Australian thus far of back to generous refugee program that favors Muslim and African refugees because it is our duty as good global citizens to help the oppressed. But if our oppressed white, Christian, industrious, rugby and cricket playing commonwealth cousins from South Africa who would integrate seamlessly

and not afforded the same compassion and taxpayer largesse. It will undermine our entire immigration program. It will make people suspect it's designed deliberately to change Australian culture. I mean we can probably find room in the torture camps for some white South Africans. A hundred percent. As a policy, I mean, I think we really should be applying that real fairly. I agree. We should, we should, you know, mix things up in there a little. I want our illegal refugee torture camps to have a real Abercrombie and Fitch look about it. Yeah. That's, that's a quality, folks.

I think the thing on this that I'm focusing on is after she lists all of those weird things about South Africans, the way she says, uh, that they would integrate seamlessly. Hang on. Oh yeah, it will make people suspect it's designed deliberately to change Australian culture. So the implication there is that we're deliberately trying to bring in only non-whites? Is she implying that the government is trying to do white genocide to Australia? She would be. She would be implying that. Oh, and if there's anyone we can accuse of being complicit in the grand conspiracy of white genocide, it's fucking Peter Dutton. Absolutely. Of course, of course. He's just playing his cards really close to his chest.

The man hates whites. I saw a, um, I cannot remember exactly where this was, but I saw a really dumb exchange a while ago about, about like numbers of refugees from the refugees from, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their th th the, the the the the the the the thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean the the a while ago about like numbers of refugees from countries and that kind of thing. And it was somebody making the, oh we should just, we should close off immigration kind of argument. And I'm saying, oh yeah, you know, we let in X number of people and other people are saying they want to increase the humanitarian intake. But you should ask those people, would you accept 2 million refugees from that country a year or would you accept 10 million refugees from that country a year? If they say no, then you know that the whole thing's furfy. And it was just kind of like, well that's A, that's very silly.

They said, oh, you know, that's very silly. And they said, oh, you know, there's just been some arbitrarily picked number at which people can argue that, you know, it's not going to, it's not going to overwhelm everybody. And so I just thought, what, what planet are you living on where you think that there isn't any actual thought put into the idea of like how, how big are various refugee alo-a-o-????????? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Is? there? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the there? there? there? there? there? there? there? there? there? the the the the the there? the the the the the 't any actual thought put into the idea of like how big our various refugee allotments are and how much we increase it by every year and how many people we bring in and everything like, there are absolutely a lot of people myself included who think that we could increase our humanitarian intake significantly. But Andrew, you're going to put them in your own house? That's right. I didn't fucking think so. Are you're going to put to put to put to put to to to put?? to to to put? to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their thi, thi. thi. thi. their, thi. Various, their, their, their, their, their, their various, their various, their various, their to put them in your own house? That's right. I didn't fucking think so. Are you willing to let 5 million people live in your house?

Oh, you don't have room for them? Well, what a happy coincidence. I love that argument. I love when they're like, oh, you wouldn't let them in your house. It's like, yes I would. Well, yes, a lot of a... Of course when we could stay in my house. I was actually, I was talking to Tim, Bergerdrome, a lovely union man who's been on a couple of times now. I was talking to him today about, he was reading a Jordan Peterson interview in which he was talking about Alan Joyce,

the CEO of Quantis, the Australian airline. And... the CEO of Qantas, the Australian airline. And the gist of what he was saying was, oh well, you know, who knows what reason they're doing it for? All of this inclusive talk, all of this, all of this, you know, it could just be virtue signaling. It could be, they could be coutowing to the Marxist hordes and all the sort of stuff. But at the end of the day, you know, it it it it it it's it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the their, it's their, it's their, it's their, their, you, you, you, you their, their, you could could could could could could could could could could could could could could just, you could could could just, you could just, you could just, you could just, you could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could, you, you could could could could could could could, you could could could could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could the the the thi, thi, the thi, their, their, their, the their, you the the the the the the the the sort of stuff but at the end of the day you know it's gonna come back to haunt them and they'll reap what they sow and all this sort of thing my first thought was like it's it's just interesting when you see people like there's so many

conservatives where they are genuinely just incapable of fathoming the idea that there are people who just th that there are like, you know, social goods that are worth doing, that it's worth doing something for someone who isn't yourself. There always has to be this ulterior motive. There has to be a mass worldwide conspiracy of, you know, cultural Marxism and white genocide and stuff like that. It's not just that people are like, you know, working at a business and saying Yeah, maybe we should stop discriminating against people of different sexualities Or that maybe a government would look and say yeah, maybe we should try and help these people who are being slaughtered by their own government and desperately trying to flee their country

Like for some reason there's always got to be some big conspiratorial ulterior motive, you know somebody's pulling the strings. The globalist agenda. The globalist agenda and that just loops right back around to what you're saying Ben Miranda Divine immediately connecting this to it'll make people suspect that it's designed deliberately to change Australian culture. Because it couldn't possibly just be, it couldn't possibly just be that, you know, people get prioritized from countries on the basis of the horrifying conflicts that are there and the fact that we are able to take them in. And the reason that most of our refugees are people of colour, wouldn't you believe,

is because most of the fucking terrible shit in the world happens to people of colour. That's an incredible, like, from A to B navigation that they can't put together. I think you'll find it's actually George Soros uh... yeah and it then got pretty gross uh... when Peter Dunn got involved with Miranda divine didn't have been yes it sure did because this country is a fucking joke uh like 20 hours after Devine's column went up,

Dutton reared his horrible fucking bonts on her live show, and told the ten listeners that he was planning to immediately address her concerns, which honestly, like that's... that he was planning to immediately address her concerns, which honestly like that's like a three or four day turnaround for government policy, right? Which is fucking insane. But anyway, he hopped on there, said that they'd be fast-tracking, well, looking into fast-tracking visas for white South African farmers and played into the same dog-wistle bullshit that Devine was doing, just very explicitly like it's not even subtle at all. The people we're talking about want to work hard and they want to contribute to

a country like Australia. We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare, and I think these people deserve special attention and we're certainly applying that special attention now. So what makes them different? I just I can't pick it. What's the defining? It's hard to put your finger on it isn't? Can't figure it out. It could be anything. Hmm. Everybody... I'm stroking my chin here like to think thethinker. We all look like slow chimps. Yeah, it's not subtle, isn't it? It's less of a dog whistle and more of a doggy foghorn kind of deal.

It's more of a... It's an air horn, but the red bin on top of the bone shape. It's um, it's... Is it the top of the bell tower frantically whacking the racism bell? Come and get it. Yeah, I did say to somebody to say about this that, um, you know, they said, oh, it's just a reflection of how this government is ignoring all of this genocide going on around the world.

And I said, I don't even think it's that. I don't even think it's a matter of them acknowledging one conflict or one, you know, genocide real or otherwise over another. I think that doesn't even play into it. If they were interested in the idea of helping people out who were stuck in the middle of genocidal conflicts, they wouldn't be doing things like trying to repatriate Rohingya people. Yeah, and that's a very good point specifically. Dear friend of the show, Josh Butler from the Huffington Post was going through some

of Dutton's old statements he's given about immigration for refugees. It was one about Rohingya people where he was saying, pretending somehow that we are placed to take every displaced person around our region is a complete misrepresentation of reality. There was another one where immigration minister Peter Dutner's defend the government's decision not to reset all the thousands of Rohingyan and Burmese asylum seekers at the center of the escalating migrant crisis saying Australia is not in a position to help every displaced person in the world. But of course, apparently we're not exactly like

like South Africa is in our region either. No. Yeah, and yeah, I said to this person that I didn't think it at all. It was anything to do with any of these genocidal conflicts or, you know, placing one over the other. I think it's intended as nothing other than an extremely loud dog whistle to the base. It's just saying, yeah, it's to say, look who we look after. We look after our own. We look after people like us. He's very explicitly saying we want people who are like us,

who have the same values as us who will fit right in. And yeah, it's extremely unsubtle. The thing here is that this is exactly like the, you know, people in Melbourne are scared to go out and eat dinner because the African people, crime, what have you. Whereas this is a demonstrably disprovable thing. You know, like the statistics around farm murders in South Africa are still very sort of muddied. Whether or not it's actually racially skewed has yet to be proven by anyone trustworthy. And it's yeah, it's all a lot of conjecture but it doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter like the statistics around African crime, there's a 10% drop in crime in Melbourne over the

last year. Like it just doesn't fucking matter because none of this is about whether or what he said was true or not. This is, I mean, this is the same way Trump operated, right? You say something insanely stupid that your audience wants to hear and they fucking hoot and hoot and holler and then schmucks like us fucking scramble to be like, actually, I think you'll find that's made up and then that never gets to them. They never never hear th th th th th th th th th they just they just they just they just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just they're just they're just just they're just they're just they're just th.. they're just th. thi thi thin' thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeean thean thean thean thean thean theean thi thi thi thi thi. never gets to them, they never hear that. No, they're just like leaning on the horn, like honking at you, calling you a nerd. Yeah, 100%.

So it's, I mean, he wins. They do stuff like this and there's no checks and balances. It doesn't matter. People can be like, hey man, that's super racist. And they'll just be like, oh, they'll just, oh, oh, oh, oh, they' they'll just, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. to, to. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. to be like, it is. Yeah. Actually, this does rely on me. When Tony Abbott was Prime Minister in his gloriously ill-fated run that was cut short, we all know it was going to be successful and super legendary, and then the haters cut him down, which is unfair. But I seem to remember that when he was PM, that there was, that they had similar talk at the time about Christian refugees in...

Syria? Was it Syria? Was it Syria? I think, yeah. It was a Middle Eastern region, they were talking about specifically, they were saying, oh, you know, the Christian people in this part of the world are some of the most persecuted people on the planet. And so they'd simultaneously been making all of these excuses and reasons and justifications as to why we essentially weren't going to take any extra refugees from Syria during the middle of this massive crisis and huge exodus of people from that country. A lot of other countries around the world were stepping up and saying, you know, we'll take tens of thousands of people,

like Australia itself did during Vietnam. And instead, they said, oh, what we should really focus on is this extra small minority of Christians, the one group in, you know, in these many diverse people who are all trying to flee this country, who share the one characteristic with us, basically. And not even us, just him. Yeah, exactly. It's not, it's not, you know, we don't have a national religion. We don't, we're not part of the, the crown kind of thing, you know, it's, yeah. It did make me wonder today, like, I mean, in a completely futile manner, it did make me wonder, um, like, how, how obvious does a minister or a prime minister have to make it that their decisions are largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely largely their their their thlyly thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thus thus thus thus thus thus thus that that that's just just just just just just just just just just that thus that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus thus thus thus thus their, their, their, it's just just just just just just just their, their, it's just just just just their, it's just just their, it's just just their, the minister have to make it that their decisions are largely governed by their completely personal faith, their personal religion before you say, all

you're clearly not capable of operating in this role in a capacity for representing, you know, the country. You're purely looking after people just like you. But that's kind of the Liberal Party slogan anyway, so. And I mean, I think... My point though was going to be, my point is going to be though, that I don't think, like, does anybody remember them actually following through on that and doing anything for Christian people in and prioritizing them and bringing a bunch of men? Or was it basically just like this, where they just wanted to get on the old racism loudhailer and say, hey everybody, you know what we should do

is look after all these nice white Christian folk who probably speak English and wouldn't be too scary if they moved in next door to you. And then they don't actually do it. And of course, I suspect that this South African farmer thing think thi thi thi tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, thi, thi, thi, thi, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they're, they're, they're, they're, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll to too, too, too, too, too, too, told. too, too, too, too, too, they're they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they don't actually do it. And of course I suspect that this South African farmer thing will go very much the same way. That they'll talk a whole bunch of shit about it to essentially to make people mad and then just not do that because Dutton's whole deal is just keeping people out of the country. Yeah and I mean that that will have still worked perfectly for them.

That's all they wanted. I should note that today I made a white African gentleman extremely mad at me. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. He was so mad. He didn't stop being mad for like eight hours. Typical South African, really. You got super mad. He didn't stop being mad for like eight hours. Typical South African, really. You got super mad because I posted, you know, this article that we are talking about now,

about Peter Dutton and those specific comments about, oh, we want people who want to be part of a country like Australia and won't just sit around on welfare and all that kind of thing thin, is there any way that this can be interpreted as anything other than,, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thing and said, is there any way that this can be interpreted as anything other than, oh we want these people specifically because they're white and maybe they speak English. And then in the replies to somebody else made a throwaway joke about a white person with a South African accent always sounding as there's nothing more disgusting to me than a white man with a thick South African accent. Nothing more disgusting and villainous I said. And this guy got very mad. It's calling people disgusting. That's a horrible dehumanizing thing. And I said, well, it's it's a joke it's a joke about how movies

like a lethal weapon and that kind of thing you know just they all they all they all posed South African people as immigrants in the end I'm sorry I'm not immigrants as villains in the 80s obviously I don't actually feel like that it's a gag hey how about in chappy when it got flipped around and it was in South Africa and it was in South Africa the bad guy was an Australian with a mullet little shorts It's like well, it's not funny to me You're being being very discriminatory and I said, uh, I feel like it is funny though. Well, they are famously humorous Well, and like and I said well, that. and like, and I said well, look, clearly, that's like it's it's, you know, I said. I, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,, clearly that's, like, clearly that's, like, it's, you know, I said, I, generally I would hope that when I really over-exaggerate something, it makes it clear that it's a joke, you know?

And it's not what I was even talking about, what I was talking about was that clearly our conservative government is prioritizing people on, on this basis rather than the other. And he said, well, me and my family didn't get brought to Australia by a conservative government. It was my father's dream to come here and he had to look dead bodies and go and kind of kept going and I was like, I didn't really insinuate that that's how your family came here because this news story is from about six hours ago. So it's probably it probably doesn't

relate to your dad I guess. So basically what he proved? Wight Africans? Villanous. They are villainous. He's just proven it. He didn't know it was exaggerated because he knows that's true. he didn't read it though your tweet and be like oh he's exaggerating it for effect he was like South Africans are disgusting he's on to us he's on to us friend of the show Carl friend of the show and dear patron Carl said oh I'm feeling very attacked right now in a joking way because he got that it was a fucking joke. Lighten up buddy. Yeah, light not, mate.

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as a wild gang is bashing in the door, you're huddled together with your family and this is the last thing you hear in which case. Ugh. I wish we'd said something nicer, but... Bad timing. That's all I can say. Nothing we can do about it. We can't stop saying it now. Now we're stuck. Now we're stuck like this. So we should probably get away from that.

Weal back around to Caroline Marcus. Certainly. And I've handily prepared another article. This one is dated May 24th, 2016. Caroline Marcus, I'm a migrant and Peter Dutton is right. Visual gag for the audience. Caroline Marcus is the widest person you have ever seen in your entire life. So she is, her family, are white migrants from Singapore. They're not from Singapore, sorry, they migrated from Singapore. They came from, fucking somewhere else first.

They're blonde. Probably the Netherlands. So apparently, well at some stage they left communist era Romania. So it's got that sweet Romanian blood that we all crave. So this is her essentially trying the conservative version of identity politics, which is being like, hey, I'm a migrant so I can say this about migrants. So this was after Dutton. You know, there was that big thing in 2016 where Dutton said that most migrants are illiterate and can't work.

And then every single person whose parents or grandparents or whatever came from anywhere was just like shut the fuck up. That was Australia's shit-whole country's moment, wasn't it? Yeah, more or less. So this was her response to Bill Shorten's, the that That was Australia's shit-hole country's moment, wasn't it? Yeah, more or less. So this was her response to Bill Shorten, slamming Dutton's comments, what tosh, a word, only conservatives would use. Rack them.

Far from the stereotype of the Aryan, Southern Cross-tattooed, Pauline Hanson voting, bigot ranting against immigration, concerns about how Australia will realistically fund the integration and support of huge numbers of refugees are held by residents from all walks of life including many migrants like myself. You're so white. She's just like and I'll have you know I don't even have a Southern Cross tattoo. Then like so she starts off by being like, oh, you know, we're just concerned. Blah blah. And then the second paragraph is, of course, it's not just the economic impact, but potential threats to national security. Exhibit A, Paris, exhibit B, Brussels. Both terror attacks committed by jihadis who'd slipped to those cities hidden thee cities the cities the the the the the thoes, thoes, thoes, the cities their, their, the, their, the, the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and to, and to, and thus. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the. those cities hidden within streams of refugees all failed to assimilate.

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programs the country can ill afford. I think it, there still actually is something morally superior about trying to resettle people to save their lives. And also you know close but no potato there we're like oh yeah you know yeah we shouldn't the taxpayer shouldn't be paying for these offshore detention centers. Yes correct. Yeah well done. Yeah it costs us more money and is a larger risk to us than just letting them stay so So, hmm. Well, also the idea of there's nothing compassionate about policies which, you know, have people wind up in a horrifying detention center.

It's like, yeah, almost like, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, if they do that, then they're going to wind up in this big pot of shit at the end of the rainbow, which we might have had something to do with... I'm going to spin my arms around and there's nothing compassionate if you walk into my arms. I'm going to start kicking in this. If you get in the way, there's going to be nothing compassionate about it. It it's very, very silly.

I mean, and as well, I mean, nor is there anything morally superior about advocating resettlement programs the country can afford. We currently spend billions of dollars on running these camps in, you know, third party countries. Well, I mean, I guess, is there something morally superior about paying tens of millions of dollars to Cambodia to take, what was it, like six, eight refugees, and then they all left? Yes.

I can remember the exact numbers. It was single digits. It was not a lot of people. We paid something like, it was in the ballpark, if I remember correctly, probably don't. It was something in the ballpark of like $55 million that we wound up paying to have zero refugees stay in Cambodia. I think eventually it was like two of them were there in the end and then they both said, ah, fuck it, it's just going home.

So, of course. That doesn't matter. Yeah, the idea of affordability is fucking ridiculous. But I'm sure if you asked any of these people that they would say that it's only by spending these billions of dollars on keeping hundreds of people in horrifying diseased torture camps that we then managed to stop the hordes, you know, the unwashed hordes from following their example. Did she, did she, I missed the part earlier, maybe Ben's paraphrasing or whatever, did she go to

the torture camps? Oh yes, that is, that's coming up. Oh God. But first. Oh, first. Oh boy, I'll read this heading to you as I wrote it in there. The fucking fat suit. Oh my god. Just fucking sensational. It is very much worth noting that I could not pull up the article for this because it has been scrubbed from the Daily Telegraph and scrubbed from News.com dot com. to you where it was reposted. Although the Facebook posts on the Daily Telegraph sharing it are still very much up. The headline of this chance, sorry of this article is, a big fat chance of a fair Go for some.

It is accompanied by the single funniest image in the history of visual media, a very forlorn-looking Caroline Marcus, standing in, I think she was in King's Cross, maybe I might have made that up, wearing the least convincing fat suit you have ever seen. This is the caption with which it was posted. When our reporter Caroline Marcus done to fat suit, she didn't expect it be shunned by society.

Do you think white discrimination exists? So, okay, this is... Well, there is another photo partway down the article and the caption on that one is just journalist Caroline Marcus in a fat soup. I love it. I love it so much. This is, this is on the same sort of level as like, uh, we got two white dudes to wear burkers for a day to see what the, you know, whatever. Like, just fucking talk to people. Like find people that have actually experienced and live this discrimination every day of their lives and you know, struggling with it, what have you, like just fucking find them. You don't have to get this

like four and a half foot tall tiny woman to fucking do this for you. Oh God, there was this thing where there was an ancillary article to this one where she spoke about the social impacts. In the same week she also tried to do like a day of work wearing weights on her to simulate the physical effects of it. And there's a line in there where she's like, I had to simulate the physical effects of it and there's a line in there where she's like I had to wear 25 kilos which is just below half my weight. Very small woman. She's a tiny she's just wants to tell us all that she's

skinny. I don't know what's wrong with weighing that muscle. You have to wear weighted shoes to stop you from being picked up by his car brace. That's what's wrong with it. And they've given me knee problem, so you can't laugh at this. Oh dear. Yeah, so this was just the greatest story of the world. Clearly, she got dunked for it so many times that it was just, they just deleted it off the site. And any time she talks about being a real journalist, the best thing in the world is just a

post her screenshot of that article. It's incredible. Caroline Marcus in a fat suit. I do remember reading the article and what I really liked about it, and again it shows you the kind of perspective that she's looking at things from and basically that she that she just saw the whole thing through the lens of like and some guys laughed at me and called me fat and none of them even tried to have sex with me or none of them tried to have sex with me or none of them tried to pick me up. So really silly. Absolutely ridiculous. So the next one I've got isn't necessarily something bad that she said. It's just, this sentence is fucking incredible to me. There's a bit of a build-up to it so

get ready for it. So the article is titled, I'm marrying the love of my life but I'm keeping my own name. Blah blah blah blah something something but this simply begs the question why it's automatically presumed children will take their father's name. Of course, feminism isn't the only factor it played for me. Many other women in my line of work retain their names, at least for professional purposes, considering they represented an important part of our brands. I also happen to be quite fond of the name Marcus, although if it were something like Bottomcock, I doubt I'd be astride in my views. What? I have to agree with you, Caroline Marcus. Bottomcock would be a very funny

last name and I would probably change. No, I would keep it. Benjamin Bottomcock. Oh. I'd marry a bottom cock. It's hilarious. I'm getting that changed immediately. I feel like it would be a really different movie if it was called the Curious Case of Benning and Bottomcock. Oh, I've seen that. There's 90 minutes of just wall-to-wall hard-ball action. Very good. What's next, Ben, Ben, Ben, told us. We've got the time that she was forced to apologize to Channel 9 for saying that they knew Ben McCormick was a pedophile but didn't act on it. So what she said was executive producer Grant Williams had suspicions about McCormick before his arrest and had tried to get rid of him but was unable to. And then in her apologies, she said, neither Sky News or I intended to suggest that was the case and apologize

Freddie heard her embarrassment. She said I just, I really love that of being like, here's this thing I'm explicitly saying, and then a day later being like, well, yep, I did not mean to say that. All of those words, I thought they meant different things. But Ben, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so... I've heard that's true. Beautiful. It's sort of related to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. It's sort of related to that. Apparently massive

pedophile Ben McCormick had been tormenting Marcus for her Jewish ancestry. It's a story wow saying that embattled former current affair. I would go further than battled incarcerated, incarcerated former, battled imprisoned. Yeah, allegedly taught her about a Jewish heritage is a work colleague. Caroline Marcus says that she endured harassment from McCormick, who last week played guilty to two child porn charges when they worked together at 9 network at Sydney as revealed by Daily Mail in Australia in April. McCormick's ex-collex have said that the former ACA reporter, now 43, draped his desk in offensive pictures, including one lightning-yahu to Adolf Hitler. So that's a spicy meatball.

Hmm. It's a lie. Please retract that immediately before it gets it. It's going to say, uh, we're not going to turn into a Net and Yahoo defense podcast, but, uh, it's it's, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their to say, we're not going to turn into a Netanyahu defense podcast, but it's still not a great look. I mean, yeah, that's just... If there was more detail there drawing a line between, I'd be interested to see how that worked. Was it just being like, her, him pointing at her and being like, hey,

this is you, your Benjamin Netanyahu, who is Hitler? Is that, I'm not really sure about that one, but that's, that's fine. I feel like her general suggestion is, um, hey, I knew that Ben McCormick was a pedophile and you guys didn't do anything. I mean, that's a good one. Speaking of great views. Has anyone seen Mutant? No. I've been mean to watch it. It's a pretty good. I've watched everything except the last 10 minutes.

I fell asleep, but the parts up that I enjoyed. It's being panned by critics, but there's a very weird thing about pedophilia in there that I the movie deals with very flippantly. We'll talk about that when we've all seen it. It's a Duncan Jones joint, isn't it? It certainly is. My preliminary review of it, having not seen the end, is that the movie has no emotional weight whatsoever. The plot is not at all engaging in any fashion, but it looks incredibly good.

All of the little sci-fi design concepts they have for the world that they're in, fucking rule. Paul Rudd, as a homosexual, is absolutely delightful. And there's some great banter in the film. So, don't listen to Rotten Tomatoes. Listen to me. Watch the film mute. Fine. Rotten Tomatoes doesn't have sound. That's true. Shut the fuck off of the listeners. I also watched a recent Netflix movie. I watched that the ritual horror movie Oh, I love that. I had a wonderful time watching that and I hate horror movies.

I'm very scared. I saw some people dunking on that one and I was like, it's good. It's good. It was great. All the design choices, the plodding, the soundtrack, the look, fucking great acting, good little, good little turns for character development. The star was that the fucking dude from the young guy, from Sean of the Dead that says you've got red on you at the start. Incredible. Yeah, he's grown up, in he? Oh, I was going to, I was going to, he was going you are. Great, great.

Nailed it. You nailed that one. Now on this note, folks, on this note, we have been looking at the possibility of doing, we saw a little thing the other day that's like a browser plug-in that lets a whole bunch of people join a session and watch something on Netflix all at the same time. That'd be so much fun. Hmm. So we we th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the that's a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that tho tho that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th at the same time. That'd be so much fun. A little sleepover. Yeah, we're thinking about doing like a little sleep over movie night thing.

Maybe having some sort of a, like, discord voice chat thing going for some of the old Budevista cast folks. And then a whole bunch of folks watching some silly shit on Netflix all at once. So let us know if that sounds appealing to you, a listener. I don't know if the giving our Kretna's audience a direct line to dunk on me with no abstraction is a good idea, but... Well, how about you and I watch it

together at my house and I will simply feed what's happening through two to you and I'll censor out anything that would give you heart palpitations. Thank you Ben. Yeah I always look out to you. Sounds good. So yeah that's the thing we're gonna investigate. So what else we got Ben? So this is unrelated to Caroline Marcus thing. I just... I'm looking at our whatever, the the f the f the f the f the f the f the f the f the f the f the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's thatthis is unrelated to Caroline Marcus thing. I just, I'm looking at our, whatever the fuck this new shit we're using to record our thing is, and pretty much every two minutes for the whole time we've been doing this, Theo has muted and unmuted his audio. I just want to know. Sneezes or farts. Neither. Okay, for one. For one, all right.

So if you guys are on a conference call and you're not talking, what do you do with your phone? There's only one correct answer, by the way. Using it. I'm on Twitter, I'm on the tweets. Yeah, but you're fucking, you mute your line, right? Okay, so there's that. But also, um, do you do? Sorry, Theo, I th question, Theo, is it is one of two things. I am either participating in the teleconference, or my phone is on mute for 100% of the

teleconference. Those are the only two. Yes. I like to check in and out. Anyway, and number. It's good for the listeners to know that you've been checked out for approximately 50% of the door. Yeah, all those squeaky farts against your leather chair.

Number two, I'm eating a Mexican beef bowl at the moment. She's brought in by my wife, while my line was muted. By the wife, the line was muted. What little a spice we talked with the the the the that, the that, that, the the that, the the the that, the the th, th, the the th, th, th, their their th, their their the, the, their the, their their their their their, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the the the the the the th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the the the the that, the the the the th. Yeah, the the the the th. Yeah, the th. Yeah, all. Yeah, all. Yeah dinner? Did you hear it? No, because my line is muted. What little a spice we talk about that Mexican beef bowl? It's actually a little spicy. I got some got some chili in there. It's mainly just the chili. Well, that'll certainly give a meal some spice. It's good. And also, three, I have the loudest keyboard known to man. Yeah, you've got one of those steampunk, mock Victorian physical keyboards that's

actually steam-powered. Yep, I call it the Iron Giant. It is a ridiculous keyboard. It's a ridiculous keyboard. It's almost as loud as your mouse, Ben. Click, click. Am I not the loud one anymore? Is Ben. Is it that the loud mouse? Click! Click! Click! Am I not the loud one anymore? Maybe it's me.

Maybe it's my mouse. Well, it's because I'm using a laptop on a desk, right? So when I depress the click pad thing, it's moving the whole ensemble. Everything's getting moved. It's reverberating. I try and do my clicks in slow motion I'm very self-conscious about it. Unbelievable. Hey, should I play a little clip, should I play a little clip of friend of the show Caroline Marcus offering her opinion about

Australia Day protest? Oh I wish that you would. Yeah it's only 17 seconds long folks. What are you got somewhere to be? How hypocritical is it that the whole point of the protest is they're protesting the violence of the genocide, you know, that this day marks? And they're doing that with violence. I mean, how does that even work? Ah, the nuanced geopolitical understandings of a Sky News present. I don't want to be, I don't want to be sexist, but she just sounds like a dumb bitch. Look, I'm just going to go ahead and answer her rhetorical question. It's not hypocritical.

You have to be an idiot child with a dumb asses understanding of the world to think that like, I don't even know what that was in relation to you. I assume it was someone like looking at a flag wrong or something during an Australia day protest. But whatever it is, it's fucking nothing compared to like genocide, a disposition of, the dispossession, sorry, of, like hundreds of thousousousousous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, it's fucking nothing compared to like genocide and disposition of, the dispossession, sorry, of like hundreds of thousands of people. Like, it's nothing. It's trifling.

Yeah, just the the other day, um, on seven news, I think they had a bunch of white presenters or band, like, just bouncing ideas, just sp just spitballing ideas off each other. We're just asking questions. We're just asking questions and if they're not going to look after their kids maybe we should take them off them. And yeah and go well that's you know institutionalized violence that's why it's different you dumb piece of shit. Yeah I mean, obviously the fact that where it is now 2018, I believe, and it is still happening and that conversation is acceptable, I mean, obviously they got a lot of pushback on it, they've now deleted it from social media, but I mean, their audience doesn't give

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essentially, I love gay people, I'm all for equality, all of my values move me to support this absolutely because I love and cherish these people and I want to celebrate that and share this with them and I believe all Australians are equal. But if one faggot is rude to me, I'm going to stop holding this with them and I believe all Australians are equal. But if one faggot is rude to me, I'm going to stop holding this belief immediately. I've got some highlights here. Oh, I just, oh, okay. Now, I say this is someone who is sympathetic

to the same-sex marriage cause, someone already mentally planning the outfits that'll be best to tear up the dance floor at the fabulous future weddings of her gay friends. But if the dirty tricks we've seen since the plebiscite was first table at the end of last year continue, activists are almost sure to push many like me into the negative column. Another good part here. It's this last point that gives me pause for thought. Even as an atheist and someone who has supported the gay community to the point of once dancing on a float at Mardi Gras. I personally know wonderful same-sex

couples who are lovingly raising children, and the last thing I would wish to do is hurt them. Except you're still going to fucking do it, aren't you? All it would take is one person being mildly rude to your shit and suddenly you just drop all of your principles, all of the empathy and love you have for the gay people that you know, you're just willing to drop it because this fucking culture war is more important to you than actual human relations and being generally a good person. Well, it's always strange when people sort of try to defend the idea of civility politics, of this idea that everybody has to be, youto be very, very nice to each other about everything. With this sort of position by saying, ah, so you know, I believe in all of this everybody being nice to each other

and nobody discriminating and all sort of stuff. I'm totally on board with it. Right up until the moment that somebody is rude to me, in which case I suddenly, seemingly very eagerly, will abandon that and then start doing all the discrimination. Like, it almost kind of makes it sound like their commitment to that idea was tissue thin at best. And at the first example that they're able to take and use it as an excuse, they're like, oh sweet, I can throw off these shacklesshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshsh shack of the to be to be their of their of their of to be their of to be their of to be to be the first example that they're able to take and use it as an excuse, they're like, oh, sweet, I can throw off these shackles of being forced to act like I like these people.

I can throw off the restraints of being forced to tread carefully, walk on eggshells around those people. It's just incredibly self-serving more than anything else. And when you are talking about anything like a civil rights movement, equal rights, all that kind of thing, the idea that you can frame things like that from that perspective of, oh, well, I was totally on board, I was a loyal foot soldier to the moment, like right up until the moment that somebody, like, you know, just mildly upset me personally, and now I'm out. It's not really, it's not really how it works.

It's not really supposed to be entirely about you personally. Yeah. And whether or not you've ever had your feelings hurt. And particularly in that context that she's discussing as well, that context is one is like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you you, you thi, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, you know, feelings hurt. And particularly in that context that she's discussing as well, that context is one of you're talking about people who have spent, you know, like a lot of people who have spent a lifetime being discriminated against or treated poorly or abusively or violently because of their sexuality or their race or their gender or whatever it is. And it's just the whole high and mighty attitude of like, oh well I was nice to you for five

minutes and then you said something rude so I'm out, I'm done. I quit the equality crusade. For me it's like it's very, very similar to her saying, well, I'm a migrant, you know, and but Pete Dutton is right and blah blah blah, blah, because there's absolutely no self-examination of the power that she wields. You know, I think conservatives have no understanding whatsoever of the position of power that they sit in where they can wield over people's lives due to hurt feelings or whatever way the wind is blowing or what have you.

And they can't sit there and look, oh, well I can actually make this judgment because I've been given the power in this dog shit plebicide. I've been given the power because I was let in and you know, it's very nefarious to me that people would use that power over others because you're not there like dealing them niceties like you're being judged on Master Chef where the prize is basic human rights? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it's very similar to kind of, I don't know, to me it's very similar

to the picture of like American civil rights, you know, in the middle of the 20th century where I'm sure there would have been a lot of people where essentially what they were saying was like, you know, part of the reason they were so mortified by the........... the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th, th. the, the, th. th. the, thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it, thi, thi, thi, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it, it's, it, it, it, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th... the, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. It's very, thi. It's, their, their of people where essentially what they were saying was like you know part of the reason they were so mortified by people like Malcolm X was it was people being angry and saying we're not going to take this shit from you anymore and you know everybody pointed at Martin Luther King is like oh well you need this nice pleasant nonviolence and all that sort of stuff unless you do a sit in somewhere and actually impede us in any sense and then it's suddenly really really really really really mean even Martin Luther King was he fucking hated that shit he was like uh what's that quote it's like even that the white moderate is the the

worst threat to you know yeah the rights of black people yeah and as his daughter said really recently a lot of people very conveniently forget that when he died he was the most hated man in America. But anyway, my point was going to be that I think you could draw those parallels too. A lot of people who are perfectly happy to support what they see as equal rights, as long as the people that they're supporting are, you know, they're not uppity, they're not causing any trouble, they're not disrupting anything. It's like all the people who say that, you know, they support people's rights to protest as long as they don't like disrupt a business

is operating hours or stop a tram from getting through or any that sort of stuff, which is effectively like saying. The exact point, it's not fantastic. I absolutely support your right to process as long as it is basically invisible to me and does not affect me in any way, shape or form, in which case you're essentially saying I do not support these rights at all. So we're going to leave it there, folks. We're going to stick a pin in that in the second installment of the Dipshid dossier, what we might do is run a little poll. We might run a little poll for our patrons on who you would like us to cover for the next installment of this.

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