Boonta Vista - EPISODE 41: You Have Won A Boat

Episode Date: April 2, 2018

This week Andrew, Ben and Theo wrap up last week's BallWatch and debut the new BoatWatch. We also take letters on 90s movies, patriotism vs. nationalism, podcast recommendations and puffer vests. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: http://boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Botaur Socialist Club, episode 41. I am Andrew. Welcome, thanks for joining us. You're here in the cave. The big cave that we dug out of the side of the mountain, it's more of a bunker really. You can use the term survivalist if you like. I find it to be a bit of a pejorative. I think of it more as kind of thinking ahead, planning, you know? I'm joined here in the dank and frankly mildewy cave of survival

by Ben. Hi Ben. Hello. Why would you start by saying we're in a cave and then immediately say that it's more of a bunker? Wouldn't you just say, we're in the bun, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, th bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bun't to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, th, to say, to say, to say, th th th thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, the the the the the the thi, the thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thin, thi in the bunker? Well, look, I've had enough people look at it and tell me it's a cave. That I want to start off with a position of people's perceptions. And then I like to broaden their horizons by really expanding on all the work that I've put into it to transform it into a bunker. All the scaffolding, all the shelves, all the collections of my various jars of fluids, the things I've pickled.

You know, all that sort of stuff that's going to keep us alive when the government comes. Are those two separate things? Your collections, your jars of fluids? Or is this, you've been in the bunker for a while and these are the fluids of yours that have been coming out of your body? Look a bit of both. I come out of the bunker to do a lot of work and I stay out here for a long time. I don't have time to get back into the city like every day. We've chosen a remote location. Oh, that's clever. Well, what's the point in building a bunker like, you know, in your backyard? Your neighbors or the zombies or whoever, they're coming straight for you because they know you've got a sweet spot. whatever the show is, doomsday preppers, and they say that it's good because you know,

otherwise you're obviously you're away from major urban centers. It's harder for people to get you, blah, blah, blah, but also, depending on what sort of event, what do they call it? That when the shit hits the fan? The doomsday event? No, they have that, when the shit hits the fan. I think that's a little acronym they use for when things go south, whatever. If it's like a flash sort of event, you might not have time to get to your bunker and then it's all for naught. Oh, it's an excellent point.

Well I'll think about moving this mountain closer to the city. Okay. We're also joined by dear, beautiful friend, Theo. It's super gross in here, Andrew. I've thi thi've put up dozens of those little pine tree-shaped air fresheness, but frankly, they're making it worse. You're think, how's the pine-tree-shaped air freshening industry going, you reckon? I just, I don't feel like I see them a lot. When I do see one, I just immediately think of the searing headache that that will give me if I sit inside a car with one that happens. Oh absolutely. I think people have finally worked that out. That's got to be scientifically demonstrable right that those things just give you intense headaches and they don't even smell nice.

It's how I feel. I don't know about you guys, but the older I get, the more sensitive I am to various smells, like people spray on deodorant shit like that. I feel like being in any kind of enclosed space with somebody who's just doused themselves in links or whatever will just immediately make my brain start rejecting the whole idea. Yeah, you're right. We are a bunch of bubble boys. Yep. I, uh, just, speaking of sc um, I bought for a dollar from a cheap shop in Logan today, a packet of denim incense. Hold on, let's just walk this back for a second.

Denim incense, before you explain this any further, um, I would like to throw out what my guesses are as to what this refers to. Um, um, the... I, um, um, um, um, um, um, I, I, I I, I, I I I, I, I, I, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thum, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, um, um, I'm, um, um, I would like to throw out what my guesses are as to what this refers to. I feel like there's two things that it could be. Yeah, basically, there is either denim that is actually, sorry, incense that is made from denim that is manufactured in that form, or it is incense that is centered to smell of denim. All right, well, I think there's maybe a third option here that it that it that it that it that it that it is that it is that it is that it is that it is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is it is incense that is centered to smell of denim. All right well I think there's maybe a third option here that it could be incense that is specifically for denim you know I can't wear my jeans tonight I need incense them first. So you're talking about febreze basically yeah but

it's incense that's not what it is it is the second of your options it is simply denim-centered incense theoretically. What does thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem thenem then then then then thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the is the an theanannneanneneneneneaauu-au-au-s. theanneau-s. I theannenea th simply denim-cented incense, theoretically. What does denim smell? What is the smell of denim? Uh, whatever that smell is, it is not what this incense smells like. Well, I think there is only one accepted canonical smell of denim, which is when you have worn something that is made of denim, for long enough without washing it that you can now smell it. Oh man, I don't know if you guys have ever done this,

but getting smell blind to musty denim smell. Oh, and then just sort of being like going to put those jeans on and just being like, oh my God, what the fuck just happened? Oh, wait a minute. It's never a-it-it-a-free a freezer overnight. Yeah, it's never a good vibe. I remember back in the heady days of working at like creative studios and stuff like that. It's never a good vibe when you sit down at your desk and pretty early in the morning become aware of the fact that you can smell the jeans you're wearing.

You don't want to smell your denim. No, no, it makes you, it really makes you start to wonder, what the radius is on those bad boys. That's a horrible feeling. Yeah, that's not a good one. People, wash your clothes and watch your body before you go outside. You never want to detect your own scent in a place you can't extricate yourself from. Yes, if you are forced, forced by the managerial class to remain there for at least another seven and a half hours, wash your denim.

And certainly lathering your pants in deodorant will only do so much. And if anything, as we discussed, not five minutes ago, you might well be giving headaches to your co-workers. It's probably not doing what you think it's doing for you. That's true. Solve the problem by putting a pine tree-shaped air freshen to each pocket of your horrible... I'm one down your pants. Your horrible musty denim. So folks, I thought that maybe, maybe Theo would be able to give us a little update on a segment that we introduced last week, a brand new segment that we entitled Ball Watch.

Now look I'll be honest I'm immediately aware that that is not the stinger that we used last week. It is significantly longer. Now look I'll be honest I'm immediately aware that that is not the stinger that we used last week. It is significantly longer. All right. Well, see, I wasn't here last week and I didn't bother listening to that episode. I was just going to say that's wonderful. It's incredibly stirring piece of music.

Well, now you feel really invested in all the news about the Australian cricket teams, Sticky Balls. Theo, would you like to update us on the outcome, the resolution of the Sticky Ball scandal 2018? Sure, I mean, I think we just need to extend a heartfelt RIP to Steve Smith, David Warner, and Karen Bancroft, who were all fed into the same shredder and used to mulch the ground of the MCG. So RIP, those three dudes. Yep.

Sorry to hear about it, but that's what you get, not for cheating, but for getting caught. They leave behind, uh, assumedly three families who are very sad to see them fed feet first and used to nourish the grounds of the MCG. I don't know if this is just me because I'm not a big cricket head personally. I enjoy a game of backyard cricket as much as an exploit. I just don't watch a lot of cricket but none of the reaction I saw after the sentencing, is that the right word? The adjudication, whatever was passed out. The conviction, sure. No one was like, the th, I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't. I, I, I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I, I. I. I. I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't th. I don't th. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't th. th. th. the. th. thi. I don't th. I don't, I don't, I don't th reaction I saw after the sentencing, is that the right word? The adjudication, whatever was passed out. The conviction, sure.

No one was like, holy fuck, that's very short that I saw. But to my mind, two 12-month and a nine-month bands for like trying extremely hard to cheat and then misleading an investigation that went into the cheating, that just seems very short to me. I think the concept is though it's long enough to basically destroy their careers. That they will have a very long, very hard time writing themselves and will probably never hit the same stride that they had previously. Ideally, yes. Especially because they are now about seven gallons of chum. Hard to pick up a bat when

you're mostly viscera mixed through some grass. Yeah, it's hard to write your career when you can't actually tell which little bone fragments belong to which player in the first place. Yeah, the best thing that we can hope for is that they scoop all of it up and feed it into the teleporter pod from David Cronenberg's the fly and reconstitute them into one hideous Frankenstein-like super-cricket. Smith-Worncroft. Smorncroft. Coming out onto the field here it's Sworncroft.

He has quite a few libs. He is not looking good. Coming out of the field is the shambling, horrific visage of Smorncroft. All of the children in the crowd are weeping openly. The women are throwing up into their hats. It's a sad side here today, folks. But you can't deny his power. There's a lot of strength in his uncountable arms.

Hmm, that ungodly strength. So there you go, folks. That is your update on Ball Watch. And so that brings us to our next, brand new and never heard of before, segment. There has been, there has been scandal right in Ben and Theo's backyard. Not their literal backyards. No, one yard over. The neighbor who's...

I don't think Ben even has a backyard. Wow, a bloody will in a few bloody weeks, why not I? Yeah, Ben got a new house, folks. Cheers to Ben. Thank you. I'm very excited. I haven't lived in like a house for... I don't know. Fuck no, it's maybe like eight years I've been in apartments. So, pretty exciting stuff. There's a little chicken coop in the backyard. Oh, you can put all your bush turkeys in there. Yeah, we'll bring one with us.

Collect them up, take them with you. You can take the baby one that was freely roaming through your apartment when I visited last. Little Conan, yes. And congratulations, of course, to second of three wives of the show, George. Oh, geez. Ecstatic, I assume. Well, it's very good. It's very good. We love you, George. Kisses.

So, as we were, as we were saying, crime, crime and scandal and corruption in the disgusting city of Brisbane. Was it in Brisbane? No, Logan. The beautiful city of Logan. Where I was this morning in fact. Wonderful city, wonderful town. So we bring you the very brand new and never heard of before segment. Boat Watch. Right folks, scandal and corruption in the bad city, Logan. Now this is an interesting story, which is, you know, it's got that great flavor of local

low-grade corruption that we all love so much, the mayor of Queensland town Logan has refused to stand down or address allegations that he received a luxury boat from a Chinese developer. Now sure you might think to yourself taking possession of a luxury boat and then not telling anyone about it. Not a great look. Perhaps we can agree. I don't know. Maybe you guys are into it. So he went on to the ABC, national broadcaster, the ABC, to clear his name. And what followed was an interview that I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm not a hundred percent convinced it did clear his name. Now for the following portion, look I'll be real with you. I could just, I could read you the article. I could even read you the interview.

That's not what I'd like to do today. What I would like today is to beg Ben and Theo's indulgence, and I would like them to act out the transcript of this interview for me. During this radio play, the first of its kind, you're like that's very legitimate claim. I believe we've invented the format. A radio play. Certainly. That's right folks. Right here today on this very podcast, you are hearing the invention of the radio play. In this play, our beloved Ben will be playing the part of Councillor Luke Smith.

Embattledled, Mayor of Logan? I believe we can, certainly. Theo will be playing the part of ABC Radio Brisbane host, Craig Zonka. And what a name that is. That is a great name, isn't it? Zonka sounds like a sort of, like a system of aerobics instruction from the 90s, you know? So folks, if you are ready to hear the very, to hear, to, to, to, to, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the from the 90s, you know. So folks, if you are ready to hear the very first of its kind in the history of the human race radio play, then settle in. Ben and Theo, please take it away.

Now you're facing some serious charges here. Charges that I'm now, as I read the media, now understanding where the Triple C are coming from. As I've said, they've not told me the allegations themselves. They've chosen to tell the media instead, but then, if they're the charges, I'm not concerned because there's no guilt in my part whatsoever, and I can prove that very quickly. Well, let's talk tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho- that thr-a thr-a thr-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, thr-a, thr. thr. thr-a. thr-a. thro. thro. throooooo''ean. toean. throoooooooooo'ean. theanananananan talk through some of those details. From what the ABC understands, much of the charges relate to a donor of your campaign, the Chinese cable maker turned developer SKL Cables. At the center of it is a luxury boat. Yes or no?

Did you receive a boat? Mate, they're before the court? I really can't answer that question, but it is before the court. I really can't answer that question, so I'm sorry. I can't answer the question, but it is before the court. But you say you're going to defend these allegations and you've understood what they are through the media, so why not take the opportunity to clear the air this morning? The Triple C haven't told me exactly what the allegations are, so I don't know. I've only seen what I've the the the the the the the the the the the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media. the media. the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the allegations. I've the allegations. I'm the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a thaaughananananananananananauanauana a thau.au.a ae au.a ae ae ae aea aea aea aea aeat.a aea aeat. aea aeat.a tha thea the a the a the media, so I'm going to have to wait until it comes to the court to defend that. Oh, if that's the case, it's a simple answer. Did you receive a boat? Mate, very simple answer is I'm going to have to wait till the court to come through to tell me what the allegations are to speak until I know what the allegations are directly from the

Triple C. All I know is what the media is reporting. What the media is reporting is incorrect. What the media reporting is incorrect. What the media reporting is incorrect. What the media reporting is incorrect, and this is your chance to correct that record. Did you receive a boat? I've just said that. You that. You that you that you that you that you that you that you th you th you th you that you th you th you th you th you have th you have th you have th you have th you have th th the the that you have the the the tho the the thoe thi the the thi thoea tho- the media the media reporting the media reporting the media reporting the media reporting the media reporting the media reporting the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that that that thi thi thi thi thi throooooo' thea' thro' thro' thro' thro' thro' thro' th did you receive a boat? I've just said that. You have no further comment to add. I've just said what the media is reporting is incorrect, but when I find out what the allegations are from the Triple C,

which have not given me the decency to tell me, they've obviously linked it to the media, but obviously I'm waiting on what those allegations are from triple C themselves. So you say the media reporting is incorrect but you're not prepared to say what is actually correct? Well I don't know what the triple C are alleging so how can I say anything? Well then respond to the media reports and correct that record. I just said that what the media are reporting are incorrect. Yeah but you're not offering any evidence and you're not prepared to answer any further questions by the sounds of things. Well, by the sound of things, I'm telling you what I've seen in the media is incorrect,

but I'm waiting to see what the allegations are to the court process to the triple C. So you're not prepared to talk about whether you received a boat. What I'm telling you is what you've the the the the the the the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media is the the media is, you've seen, the the the the the the the thii is, thi is, thi, thi, th thi, I've seen, I've seen, thi, thi, is, is, is what I've thi, is what I've that's, I've that's, I've that's, I've that's, I've that's, I've that's, I've that's is, I've that's is, is, is what I've that's is what I've that's is what I've thi. thi. thi. thi, is, is, is, is, is, is what I've thi, is, is what I've the the thin, the thin, the thin, the the theat theat theat thea' is thea' is thea' is thea' is what I'm the No, it's not. Yes, it is actually. What I don't know is what the allegations are made against me by the Triple C. The answer to my question is a simple yes or no. Did you receive a boat? You've seen stuff in the media and I've seen stuff in the media, and I'm telling you it's incorrect. So correct it.

Incorrect. It's incorrect. Well, what's incorrect about it? It's either yes, you received a boat or no, you did not receive a boat. I've told you the answer. It's incorrect what I've seen in the media. I'm waiting on what the allegations are from the Triple C and that's the only way I can go forward, Craig, or else I'm going to to the court process to happen and then th th th th th then then then then then thin thin the thin thin the thoe thoe thoe thoe, and tho tho tho the, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the th.... the the the the the the the the the the tho. the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. theeeean. the theean. thean. theean. thean. toeatea. toeateate. toe. toe got to wait for the court process to happen and then we're going to go from there. So really there's no point in doing this interview any further. Well that's up to you. Luke Smith, thanks for your time. Okay, bye. Oh, Luke Smith. So I think that pretty much clears it up folks. Yeah, my belief is that he took the boat. He definitely took the boat. I love. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. tho. I tho. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. the. the. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. to. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thtook the boat. He definitely took the boat. I love this story just because, like, this is the best kind of corruption you can do. Like, it's not, you know, someone, I don't know, getting paid $250,000 to do whatever.

Like, getting bribed with a boat. It's like, oh, we're going to expedite the process on this boring thing as like no no we'll give you a boat. That's like perfect that's like 80s business crime to me giving someone to like people don't do that anymore it's like ooh we got you this 5,000 dollar jacuzzi does this this sweeten the deal it's very much on par with like just accepting a suitcase filled with $50,000 in cash. 100% So, so look, let's just leave it there. Who can say?

Well, that's for the courts to decide, obviously. All we know is that the media cannot say. Who can say if Luke Smith took a boat, certainly not Luke Smith. Oh dear. So folks, we will absolutely return to this one. I feel like we won't, but it's very sweet of you to say so. Hmm. Don't. Well, I will keep an eye on this one and let you know exactly when Luke Smith goes to prison. And whether he's allowed to travel there by boat or not. And thus concludes the very first and possibly final installment of, boat watch.

Oh yeah,'s good stuff. So there we have folks. We are now ready to jump off into the real bulk. The real bulk of the episode which is our beloved mailbag. Because we're out of ideas folks. We are done with thinking about stuff. It's an active process. It's so good when like Barbie was rooting. Now it's just counting down the days.

Look I've had a lot on this week. I've come home and immediately just started absolutely pounding drinks. And so that's why we have reached out to you, beloved listeners and patrons of the show to do some of our thinking for us. And you came through in spades big dirty spades, the th dirty spades the dirty spades th dirty spades th dirty spades the the the the the the the the the the the the the of the the the of the the of the of the of the the the the their their the the the to the to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the and we the and we the and we're the an the an theat. theat. I theat. I theat. I theat. I was theat. We're theate. I and patrons of the show, to do some of our thinking for us. And you came through. You came through in spades, big dirty spades full of mail. Huh. Yeah, you ever seen a spade full of mail, Ben? I have not.

But I very much sort of picture post office back rooms to function like some sort of Brazil-esque farcical titanic representation of business and industry where just like there's burning furnaces and like sweaty shirtless men are just, oh I got distracted for it, just shoveling huge piles of mail. There's the machine that just constantly fires off envelopes into the air. Yep, a hundred percent. It's shuddering and the smoke is bellowing out of it. Swirling cloud of mail at all times. And people have to wade through a thick floor of mail to get to the big giant punch card thing. That's it. And that's how Australia Post works.

Exactly. On the two or three days a week that it does work. Oh, I got them. Rack them! So folks, let's take it away with the questions. Are you guys ready? You guys ready to really just fire up the old brains and answer some questions for our dear friends out there in the world? I certainly am. We'll try.

Excellent. Well, look, let's keep close to the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very close to the very first topic of the show. Dear wife of the show, Towel Waterhouse, asks. Kiss, kiss. Well, where would you have hidden the tampering tape? Oh, I would have hidden it at ankle height. So, print down, you know, you bend down, you go, I got a bloody itchy ankle. Oh, look at that. I shaved a little bit off the ball. Ooh, now I have to tie my shoes again.

Hmm. Hmm. Theod, you have an even better idea than that? I would have played the game honorably and with skill. Oh, I mean. It's a pretty good answer. And avoided, uh, sentenced to being fed directly into a wood shipper. Fargo style.

Fargo style and used to fertilize the grounds of the MCCEE. I assume that part of you bending the rules to answer that question in a way that doesn't actually answer the question is also you bending the rules to imagine a world where you can pay professional sport without fainting within the first 10 minutes. Hmm. Um. Look, the thing I was most surprised by is that the Australian cricketing body also linked up with Australian tourism to pay Peter Stormair to come over and individually feed those people into that mulcher in front of cameras. What a job he did. Oh, do you guys want to know something fucking sick? I've seen that the actual woodchipper.

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That's, that's true. Oh, folks, I'm going to have to interrupt you with some breaking news right now. Yes. I just got a message in the pedestrian. tv group chat saying that Joe Hildebrand smells. One of my co-workers got a message from his girlfriend that he said a screenshot of that just goes, Morning Show Man is in front of us at the shops. He goes, Carl, and she goes, no, the one you hate. Oh, Joe Hilderbrand,

heat-bred. And she says, Dacking, please. And she says, apparently he's smelly. Joe Hilderbrand smells, everyone. Devastating if true. Fred of the show, Jeremy Stibbard. Actually, I'm trying to find it here and I cannot confirm if Jeremy is a patron or not, so maybe he's just some fucking free loader. In which case, look, we're going to have to wait and confirm that one. He's probably a patron. Anyway, Jeremy asks, the cold weather. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the show. the show. the show. the show. the to have to wait and confirm that one. He's probably a patron. Anyway, Jeremy asks, the colder weather is upon us, and so comes another year where the question needs to be asked.

Puffer vests, yes or no. All right, so we're going to take one step back. The cold weather is definitely not upon us. It's definitely not going to be upon the eye at all. No, not you guys living up in hell in tha in tha in tha a pond theory at all. This year, or for as long as we live in this state. No, absolutely not. It's still like 24 degrees at night. Jesus Christ. 690% humidity.

It is just the amount of times in last week that I've walked outside of the car and my glasses have immediately fogged up. It is thick and it is moist and it is almost difficult to breathe. So in regards to the puff of vest, I bought one last year, I've worn it probably twice, and now it's too hot to be alive. Yeah, I'm not even contemplating wearing long pants within the next month or so. So I'm willing to extend my imagination to consider that it might be entering into colder weather for other people, but right now, that's just not the case for the or I. So, you know, majority rules. This is a democracy podcast and two out of three say, no, no dice. But what about you, Andrew, are you a puffer vest man?

I've seen you rock a denim jacket quite often. It's not my aesthetic personally. I didn't think so. No, although wife of the show, my wife, Elna, has been frankly frothing at the mouth to get herself a puffer jacket this year. So maybe next week we can tackle the question of a puffer vest with sleeves and whether that is appropriate. But we live in a place where it does get cold and it's not just hot and humid all the time.

It's gonna get nippy. A Cambro winner, it's brisk. Very much, very much. But unlike the unadulterated misery of a Melbourne winter, it gets sunny. It's nice and sunny, clear, cloudless skies, crisp mornings. You're thinking about cool crisp mornings. Yeah, see that I can get behind. I don't mind that. It's drizzle can fuck right off. I don't want to be cold and wet folks. We we did not realize

until we moved how much we were like, that's the weather is fucking miserable in Melbourne isn't it? I don't know how people live in London. God or how could you do that like basically all year through? That just sounds like fucking torture. Misery. Misery. So that's going to be a sound no on puffer vest from the crew here. Well I mean I, I didn't say whether or not I like it. Don't walk it back now. Are you wearing one or not? Are you wearing one or not? I mean no, that look ridiculous on me, but I think some people wear them quite well. Friend of the show, a new patron, welcome, welcome the board.

New patron, Kumpo anime likeer. Ask the question, where would you take Caleb Bond on a hot date? Is there a pen museum somewhere in the world? Probably. If we're going for like if we're going for anywhere as opposed to you know a real place near somewhere we live, I would say the American Entertainment Chain Restaurant, Medieval Times. I feel like you'd enjoy it. He certainly would. Yeah. Apparently there's a very big pen museum in Birmingham.

Okay. Perhaps Alabama. Do you mean? The other one, the British Birmingham. Okay, sure. I would... I'm trying to think, I don't really know about the nice spots in Adelaide, but I think he I don't really know about the nice spots in Adelaide, but I think

he's certainly a wine bar kind of guy, and maybe see if I could find a combination wine and piano bar. I was thinking a combination wine bar and like, um, botany preservation, um, archive. So where you can have a little tiple and then pull out a dusty drawer full of little... Just specimens. Little pressed specimens. Okay. So there go folks that is where each of us would take Caleb on a hot date. And then I'd take him home. Oh, who. Dear, dear, friend of the show, Justin Frey McCulloch. He asks, I've been listening to the podcast, podcast like it's 1999, which talks about

all the films from the year. You guessed it, 1999. Naturally, a bunch of them have aged so poorly. So I've got to ask which 90s film has aged the worst in 2018. I have an answer for this if you guys would like to percolate a little? Yeah. It's frankly, it's a stock answer for me at this point. For anybody, roughly my age.

I think that the 90s film that has aged the worst, purely from the context of things that people thought were really cool and when I watch them now I go, Christ. It is Brandon Lee in the Crow. Oh no, fuck off. I think I've defended the Crow before on this podcast. And if not, prepare for me to do it for 20 minutes starting now. The Crow. Wait, sorry, I miss that. Are you defending or are you putting down the crow? I'm defending the crow? the the c. I. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thee is thr. I the is the. I. The Crow. Wait, sorry, I missed that. Are you defending or are you putting down the Crow? I'm defending the Crow. Oh, geez, here we go. It's absolutely phenomenal soundtrack.

Just some of the best, like, that age of special effects where the, like, the, like, superimposition, they were doing the green screening and stuff, looks really dodgy, but in that really good kind of nostalgic way. The colour palette is basically completely absent for the entire film. Wonderful little performance from John Polito. I can never remember his name, but the gravelly voiced guy who plays the villain is just a tremendous actor.

Corbent, Corbon something. He's got a real Texan name. He was also in a fucking Dead Man, which is a phenomenal movie. He was also a bad guy in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Is it Michael Winkott? No. He's got a very cool name. Anyway, continue on with your spirited defense and not actually the answering the question about a, oh it is Michael Winkott, actually answering the question about a movie that has aged poorly as opposed to one that you want to keep defending despite its obvious. Um, poor quality. What about, oh, what about, bylings stirring performance in that film?

Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah, that was, that was weird. The weird incest under the tonsi- I like the pretty line. Wow, you certainly know the dialogue pretty well for a man that doesn't like the movie. That's the point I'm saying, it's a thing that everybody thought was cool and it's aged terribly. Can I go out on a limb and say I don't remember ever watching the crow? Oh man, you didn't hear the original song written by the cure for the crow?

Burn. Wonderful. Wonderful. Well, let me just interject here and say that that lover of the show Amy has replied to this question saying that she throws in a nomination for Ace Ventura Pet Detective and its entire plot being based on transphobia. Oh, 100% yeah, that hasn't gone well. Watching that last five minutes is the most incredibly painful thing. It is very, very unpleasant. It is unfortunate. Yes, that did not age well.

Theo, do you have a nomination? Yeah, something does not go well. Yeah, check this out. Clurks. No, clerks are still good. Everything else that he's done is garbage. Well, Zachary and MacBorno no it's not bad. I still think that he's done is garbage. Well, exactly make it all that. It's not bad. I still think that Clerks is good. Did you ever see Tusk?

Was it Tusk? I'm still not seeing Tusk or Red State. Actually, those are the two that I need to see. Now, Red State is fucking dynamite. Okay. I will fervently defend Red State if only because it is absolutely nothing like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like thing like thing thing thing thing thing thing thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. tus. t, t, t, is t, t, is t, tus. tus. to to to to to to to to to to to tooes tooes tooes tooes tooes tooes tooes tooes tooes. tusk. tusk. tusk. tusk, is tusk, is tusk, is tusk, is tusk, is tusk, is tus a Kevin Smith film for a start. Good. If you wanted to see a, you know, a very effective horror movie based on the whole Westboro Baptist Church, the people who pick up funerals with God hates, fags, signs and all that sort of stuff.

And it's also very interesting in that it like massively, massively changes gears like three times in the movie and just becomes like a different genre of film throughout the thing. It's not plagued by any extremely Kevin Smithish writing. Great performance from, uh, oh, god damn it, what's his name? I can't remember anything tonight. The big teller?

Yeah, John Goodman. Great performance from John Goodman. Yeah, really nice set up and changing gears, all that kind of stuff. Tusk is an interesting exercise in weird horror, weird party horror. Give it a go. Do not give a go to the spin-off movie that he made out of an extremely minor subplot in Tusk, which is two girls in a convenience store in that film who are played by

the daughters of Kevin Smith and Johnny Depp. Oh boy. They made a big pile of dog shit out of that. Don't watch that one. Anyway, I think I've got my answer this question. And it comes from 1999 to 1999 as well. It's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th of th of th of thus th of an th of an th of an th of an th of an th of an th of an of of an of of an of of an of of an of of an of of of of th of th of th of th of th of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of th of th of th of th of th of th of th of th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thus thus thus. thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. Anyway, I think I've got my answer to this question and it comes from 1999 as well so it's very... Okay, nothing. Spot on. Spotted. Although that, you will have to remind yourself that people at the time did think

that it was good. It is a little film I like to call Boondock Saints. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. People still fucking love that thing, man. And people liked it like for real, not like ironically like equilibrium. Oh man, I saw it when I was like 15 or 16 I think my older brother was like, oh man, you should watch it. This is super cool. You've got a brother.

I've got two brothers, bitch. Jesus. Now, hold on for a second, Ben. Were you about to say when this was recommended to you by an older brother? Did you think it was cool when you were 15 or 16? Fuck yeah, yeah, I did. Oh, man. I was obsessed with this movie. I thought it was th. I was th was th was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was tho. I was tho. I was tho. I was tho. I was obsessed with tho. I was obsessed with tho. I was tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Were. th. th. th. tha. thi. tha. tha. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. thea. the, oh, look at all these great one-liners and all the cool shit they do.

All I'm trying to say, all I'm trying to say is that the way that you feel about Boondock Saints is very, very much the way I feel about the Croat. It is a thing that I remember thinking was really cool, and a great aesthetic and a really cool vibe and all that sort of stuff. I go back and watch it now and I think that the performance is terrible and it's an incredibly overwrought emo vibe and all that sort of stuff. I think the difference is that Boonock Saints, Troy Duffy, writer, director, composer for the film. He genuinely thought he was making something smart and subversive. Whereas everyone in the Crow knows that it's a campy goth pantomime.

Everyone's well aware that the movie is trash. No one thinks that they're making anything beautiful, which is ironic because the comic that is based on is a genuinely, heart-breakingly beautiful thing that was written by the guy immediately after his girlfriend or wife was killed in a car accident, I believe. And it's just all about grief, right? The whole thing is just about his inability to deal with the fact that she's gone and it is fucking heartbreaking. And then the crow itself is just like, this ridiculous camp fantasy. But yeah, Boodock Saints is just thinks it's way fucking smarter than it is. It's way funnier than it is. th is. th is. th is. th is. th i is. th i is. th i is. th i is. th i is. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi t thi t toge thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. Saints is just thinks it's way fucking smarter than it is, thinks it's way funnier than it is.

Like, the fucking, he cast his friend in there basically as himself because he believed that he was very funny in real life. He's like, hey, I'm putting you in my movie and you're called The Funny Man. And he does not a single funny thing in the entire film. And I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this is th. thus. this is this is thus. thus. this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is th. this is this is this is this is this is th. this is this is this is this is th. this is th. th. this is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's just just just just just just thi. It's thi. It's thing in the entire film. Hmm. Alright, I'm going to keep moving here to make sure that we answer the questions of our beloved wives and lovers of the show. I would also just like to clarify Jeremy Stibbid, friend of the show. Sorry for calling you a free lauder. Yeah, we'll see you over on the paid episodes.

Yeah, see over there. So let's see, folks, dear lover of the show, Amy asks, does patriotism inevitably work against the cause of equality? Yes. Question for smart people. I don't know. I will agree up like personally. I think, I don't know, to me, to me, patriotism as an idea is too, too sort of indistinguishable from nationalism. Because I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking the place that you live. I think there is nothing wrong with liking the character of the country that you are from and all that sort of stuff.

Like you will often hear people say, if you just gently place your hand on their arm and say, maybe, no, it is okay to say, black pride, not so great to say white pride. When you get into that whole thing with people and they say, oh, I can't be proud of where I come from, I can't love the country I'm from. it's like yeah absolutely you can, but as soon as you start getting super freaky nationalist about like the place that by complete coincidence you happen to be born. You know? I think there is something, there is something specific to it. Like where, also you go, yeah, you don't love this country where you are, and it's sort of th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi' thi' that that thi' thi' thi' thiol-a' th. thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi thi th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi yeah you don't love this country where you are and it's sort of this this stake in the ground where you kind of go well this

is where we are and to improve it is weird like you know it's no there's no there's no there's no room in that statement to to make things more equal or to champion the rights of you know downtrodden or whatever it's purely you know if you don't love it fuck off and it's yeah I should say as well it's it's interesting to me that people who are all right I suppose if we're talking about the sort of classical definitions of the term and those sort of famous quotes and all that sort of stuff, that to me the difference between the two is nationalism is blindly, you know, blind loyalty to your country and a fervent hate of anybody who expresses any form of criticism whereas, you know know traditionally

the idea is that if you are truly patriotic and love your country that you should not be afraid to call out when your country is doing something less than great or not not being all it can be or not standing up to the idea of its national character and all that sort of stuff. Yeah and it kind of ignores the whole process of dragging a country forwards that has occurred in the several centuries that have come before us to say well no this is it we've got it we've got it now you know and then yeah to criticize it as a bad and it's the people that are criticizing and they're trying to make it better that continue to drag it forward so that in 10 years' time you can put the stick in the ground there and say, no, if you complain about it now, you can fuck off.

Like it's just this continual process of not understanding. Why the place you live, you know, if it is great, why it is great, what made it great, you know, and just, you know, believing that mom and dad are perfect and, you know. Yeah, I think the thing that also tends to really muddy the waters here is that, like I was saying, I think that if you're talking again about those very sort of traditionalist definitions of patriotism being, you know, unafraid to stand up to tyrants and leaders who are doing the wrong thing and to criticize your own country when they're doing the wrong thing, all that sort of stuff, you will find that the most nationalistic people who are the most outraged and outright rejecting of any criticism of the country that they are living in or they are from are also the people

who will constantly and most vocally describe themselves as being dedicated patriots. And that is why I think that patriotism as an idea, like I said, if that's how you want to take it and express it and all that sort of stuff in actually trying to advance the causes of equality in your own country and make your country what you see is a better place. That's great. Describing yourself as a patriot almost inevitably makes you sound like a nationalist. Yes. Sure.

Yeah. I would say that the most conclusive argument for this is that without any doubt every single person on the website Twitter..com, that has an American flag emoji or an Australian flag emoji in their name is a massive racist. Hmm. The end. Done. We've answered it.

QED. Yeah. Uh, all right. We got another one here, theat. We've got a good one here. From, um,'ve got two questions from Lover of the show, Eric, Stacey. Hello, Eric. Hello, Eric. Now, Eric has asked two questions. The first one, Ben can answer for us quickly. When Ben moves to his new

house, will he be taking the geckos with him so the Nature Corner can continue? Uh, look, this has been a matter of great contention between myself and my partner,, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoge thiiii-of-of-of-of-of-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-uh-uh-uh-uh-up-up-up th-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-m to-f. Lover of th th-ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, from th th th th th th-ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffew th-s th-s th-s th-s th-s th-a-s th-s thoooo-e of th to-e of thooooooe of to-e of to-e of th to-e of thooooe of th th tho th him so the nature corner can continue. Look this has been a matter of great contention between myself and my partner George. My position is that we cannot disturb the local wildlife here and we shall be leaving them but who knows what sort of wonderful animals will encounter a mere 600 to 800 meters away from where I currently live in the new place. Well, there you go. And Eric's second question, let's be honest, we're really given Eric the special treatment tonight. And that's what you get when you're a lover of the show.

I'm giving him any fucking special treatment he wants. Yeah. Eric asks, I don't think this has been asked before and apologies if it has, but what podcasts do you listen to, if any, if any time anyone asks me the question, I will always give the same answer and I will keep doing it until every single person on the planet listens to it. Everybody needs to listen to the podcast, oh yeah dude, it is the only good podcast and...what's the podcast called? It's called, uh yeah dude. Are you're? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? Everybody? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? thi? thi? thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th? th? th? th? th? th? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the podcast the? the podcast the podcast the? the podcast the? the? the podcast to to the? to to to to to to to Sorry, what's the podcast called? It's called, uh, yeah, dude. Are you doing a, uh, who's on first? I'm gonna fucking kill you.

Don't you fucking Abbott and Costello me. On my own god damn podcast. Alright, so what is this podcast? Don't you fucking try me? Uh, so it's, it's, there's no way to describe it that makes it sound good. And I think this is a problem that I've had, but it's just, it's two dudes that have been doing a podcast since either 2006 or 2007. They've never had a guest on the show except occasionally, if one of them can't do it, they will get his mum to fill in.

And they just talk about stuff that's in the news that isn't like mainstream news stuff, but also isn't really weird enough that it would have gone like viral on the intent or whatever. So they're just talking about slightly strange stuff that's going on in America. And just the quality of the show comes from the fact that they have like the most sensational rapport in the world. It's just insanely fucking funny. They're both two deeply strange men who are very charming and very lovable and like they've done, I don't know, 600, 700 episodes and I can't recommend a single one specifically because every single one is as good as the one before it. Like they're all just perfect episodes. It is fucking phenomenal.

My goodness. Listen to the damn podcast, everyone. Big pitch. What about you, Theo? To my great shame, I only really listen to, um, your Kickstarter sucks. Oh yeah, that's a fucking good one. Even though it's a very, uh, Stockholm syndrome kind of relationship because they release an episode approximately every three months. Um, despite it being, from what I can tell, one of the

only things that they do. They also take money for it as well. And on occasion, come town. I used to listen to, you know, Chappo and news ones and that sort of stuff, but that's a super shitty way to start your day I found. Just riding on the bus getting extremely angry about the way that the world works and our eventual inevitable demise, which is not far off. It's a cool thing to think about in the morning, which I try and avoid and so instead I listen to a bunch of people saying horrible things that I'm ashamed to actually listen to. But you endorse them all, got it.

All right who's ready for a few minutes of me rattling off all of my recommendations? Pass, what's the next question? Before you do, can I just slip in one more? Freed all good home. And not just because I was on it the other week. It's just a very good podcast hosted by two Sydney comedians, Ben Jenkins, Michael Hing. So it doesn't cost anything, but what's it

called? That one bear, that's a fucking stretch. They just read like weird gum tree ads and classifieds and stuff and they're both extraordinarily smart funny people and it's very good. Well I too listen to Chappo Trap House. If you would like to dig back through our own archives, you can find several episodes where Chappo TrapHouse's Matt Christman appears with us. Also with your Kickstarter Sucks, which I listened to both the free and premium episodes of,

Jesse Ferrar appeared on our show as well. You can go back and find that one if you are a newer listener. I also like fights gone by with Jack Slack if you are into mixed martial arts and that sort of stuff. He is a fantastic analyst. All that kind of thing. He's very good. I think I'm going to subscribe to his Patreon. I'm going to become one of the Jack's likes Patreon Boys. I start listening to his actual lectures because I'm that into it. Of course I listen to dear friend of the show Trevor Strunk's no cartridge audio, which if you are into both video games and socialism, you should absolutely check out. Yeah, it's a great one.

He produces a great depth of content. I really insist that Theo go on that show. Hurry, the fuck, please appear on that show? I message him and he messages me like once every couple of months to be, hey, when, you know, when I'm not being totally steamrolled by all of the stupid things I've signed up for in my life, I'd love to come on and we agree to do it and then forget about it immediately. Great stuff. So Trev also appeared on our show. You can dig back through the archives and find a couple episodes of that. Yeah, it's a good episode.

I also appeared on Trev's show. Not such a good ep. Yeah. Oh. You. You. It. It. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd to to to to come to to to to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come. I'd to come. I'd to come. I'd to come. I'd to come. I'd to come. I'd to th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to come to come to come to th. I also appeared on Trev's show to talk about... Yeah, more terrible. Sorry. It's an uncharacteristicly snide remark there from Theo. I thought I'd just dip my toe into the pool of meanness. You hate being mean. It's a bit spicy. You really do not enjoy it. Yeah. And coming for a man who apparently across the span of like six, cannot organize to give an hour of his time to Trevor. Cannot. Yeah. Can't do it.

Let's not be overcome like sort of negative roasting. This is a positive podcast. We're to...anyway, anyway, we love Trevor. We do want to get him back on the show, but I really and listen to him. It's got a really great show, produces tons of content. I've also been listening lately to a podcast called Slezoids, which is a couple of guys are Josh Lucas and Jamie Miller, who you can find on Twitter and all that sort of stuff. And basically every, Ben, I don't know why you aren't listening to this podcast. I'm very busy. So every episode they do like a double bill of like old Grindhouse and genre movies. So you know they'll do a pairing like Dirty Harry and Raw Deal or, oh, they did one recently.

There was Death Wish 1, 2, 3 and the recent remake. Scanners and Video Drome. They just did First Blood and Rolling Thunder. It was Death Wish 1, 2, 3 and the recent remake. Scanners and Video Drome. They just did First Blood and Rolling Thunder. I just signed up with their Patreon because I was running out of their episodes and want some new ones. Highly recommend that.

Oh, hey, look at this. Episode 4, Long Weekend and Razorback featuring Andrew from Bunta. Oh, what the heck? Yeah, it sounds good. I have insisted that they reach out to you Ben and get you on there because I think it would suit you to a tea. I love films. If you are into professional wrestling, I would recommend that you check out

Ressl Splania. Oh yeah, my dear friend Rachel. Yeah. Dear friends of the show, Kath Barbadoro and Rachel Millman. So, Katz is a long-time fan of professional wrestling, and Rachel is a brand new fan of professional wrestling. And basically, you get to listen along, as Rachel has all of it splained to her. Good show, great fun, you too can learn along about professional wrestling. I also highly recommend episode one.

Oh man I was just about to say that if you didn't say it I'm looking at it right now my iTunes and I would recommend starting from the start because the universe they build up is a thick world of references and callbacks. An Ork wearing bootcut jeans. The funny is a fucking mental image in the world. So please let me just explain the concept of this show for a second. It is called episode one and the conceit is that every episode of the show is the first

episode of a podcast that never went on to make any more episodes. They basically come up with a concept for a podcast and the characters of the strange people who are recording it. So there'll be things like, you know, two pick up artists recording a podcast about how to pick up girls. They'll have an episode that is like two YouTube-in-Ti-Ti-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it is tho-it is tho-it is tho-it is tho-it tho-it ths like, you know, two pick up artists, recording a podcast about how to pick up girls. They'll have an episode that is like two YouTube influences running a conference. They'll have like a guy who runs a comic book site interviewing a famous anime creator.

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And now he's sort of like patron funding doing other stories and stuff. But it's basically like, he's a journalist, sort of, the radio journalist or whatever. And a lot of it is him just driving around America, going to where things are happening and just talking to people who talks to a lot of Trump supporters, talks a lot of whatever. But he's like a massive leftist and he's really not got any qualms about when he's like talking to Second Amendment dudes that have like rocked up to a protest or whatever and he's like I think it's really fucked up that you brought all these guns

here and they're like why it is like it's fucking terrifying why you're doing this you fucking weirdos it's great he's very very funny possibly mentally all in the way that we all are kind of man. It just does, well not you, but yeah, it does these absolutely phenomenal stories. I found his podcast because he did, he got invited to speak at the music festival in Tazi, Panama, and he just basically sat there with a laptop and he's like, I don't really know what they want me to do, but I wanted to come to Australia, so I said yes, so here's a bunch of my stories. I'll talk about them, then I'll play them. And he played one where he dropped acid and went to a Trump rally. And just sort of, it's him like cataloging the like revulsion that he felt and then getting swept up in the euphoriaour-up of of of of of the euphoria th, and th, and th, and th, and thia, and thia, and thia, and thia, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he's, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the, thi, euphoria of all these horrible people around him. It's a... Oh yeah, Home of the Brave, very engaging. Some of the

stuff is fucking heart-breakingly sad, some of it's really beautiful. He's been doing a series lately on Trump has made, well the Trump administration has made massive reductions in the size and the protections of the Bears' National Monument in Utah and he's sort of like talking to conservationists and first peoples from the area and yeah it's really fucking good check out home the brave. So there's a whole bunch of podcast that we listen to folks we got a couple of minutes left to just breeze through a few of these let's try and keep him real short. Wife of the show, David King, says, is Bonnevere what you call your second son,

the brother of Bonathin? The answer is yes. Yep, agreed. Friend of the show Lucas Miller asks, will there ever be a meme page slash Facebook group that does not eventually descend into racism? No. That one's simple.

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All right, one more. Friend of the show, Average Gamer, brand new patron. Muah. Nice to meet you. When Turnbull, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull loses his 30th news poll, will it still be, I'm a better Prime Minister or will he have a mental breakdown like he did when he was asked about the 29th news poll. I'm going for mental breakdown.

Oh, he loves to meltdown. It's fucking great, isn't it, when he does. I love it when the, you know, self-assessed smartest guy in the room is getting the vibe that nobody believes he's the smartest guy in the room. It's really good. And also no one personally likes him as well, which is fun. Yeah.

It's a rare thing to be so disliked from absolutely every side of politics. Do you remember when he got in, right, and there was a substantial portion of the left being like, I shouldn't be like this, but Malcolm is daddy? Yeah, I think that's the, I feel like that is the effect that everybody is sort of fearing will happen if, if like Trump got impeached or died on the toilet or whatever is obviously going to happen to him. Then Mike Pence would become the president and everybody would go, ah, a sense of normalcy and decorum. Look at the smart man who isn't calling anybody fat or retarded or whatever and I kind of feel like that's that what happened with Turnbull was like an early

preview of that he came in and everybody went oh he isn't Tony Abbott the relief because because what you want in fascism is competency apparently yes you want somebody who can actually a cloaked and skillful fascist. For sure. All right, we do have several other questions, but we have run out of time. We're going to take those over to this week's bonus episode because you guys are beautiful, beautiful wives and friends and lovers of the show, which means you'll hear them.

You'll hear the answers, you know? So, you know, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're you're you're you're you're you, if you're you, if you're the you're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th th thi thi thi, if you're thi, if you're thi, if you're thi thou, if you're thean th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th them. You'll hear the answers, you know? So, you know, if you, if you want to give us a rating on the old iTunes store, the old podcast app or whatever the fuck it is you use, five stars, five stars. I'm not trying to just like subliminally drum that in your brain, five stars, five stars, five stars. I don't think that counts as subliminal by any measure. Well five stars, if you know if somebody just hears five stars, the same thing over and over again five stars, maybe it'll just five stars get lodged in there five stars. So if you would like to give us a review five stars, stars why not why to pop over there and do it and of course feel free to give us anything one to one

to five stars anything in between Ben five stars five stars only if you do have a one star of you I would prefer that you write to me personally with your problem you can send me an email at illi at Buntavista.com. You can contact us via Twitter, and I will personally take you to task for your insolence, for your disrespect. Anyway, you can also subscribe on Patreon. Patreon.com. slash Buntivista, if you would like twice as many episodes per week, if you would like to become a friend of the show, or even a lover, perhaps even a wife. I question me if I'm wrong, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. You can th. You th. You th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. th. th. th. th. th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You th. You th. You can thi. You can thi. You can thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, to become a friend of the show or even a lover, perhaps even a wife. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a hundred percent increase.

Yeah. Look, if you want to go, if you want to dip right down in the other direction, I have added a new tier, acquaintance of the show, which is one dollar or more. From that you get absolutely nothing but the feeling that you are contributing a completely nominal and arbitrary amount to our staggering success. So far we have zero acquaintances of the show. I believe the way I've described it. That's because everyone decides it's worthwhile to be friends. Yeah it's true. It's great value to give us money and receive absolutely nothing in return. So you can do that and of course do not forget that recently we have added merchandise.

Merchandise you can get yourself a nice shirt, perhaps a mug to drink out of it work. People could say what's that all about and you can get kind of embarrassed and just mumble under your breath and the podcast that I listen to. And none of them have my face on them. Not yet. We can change that, Theo. We can change that. We're going to get a Branson Reese illustration of you looking uneasy.

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from the merchandise fountain, you can get over to Buntavista.com, forward slash merchandise. And that brings it to the end of the show. Ben, would you like to give us one of your signature, sunny, wonderful notes to give us one of your signature, sunny, wonderful notes to leave on. Oh yeah, give one of your parents a call, or both or neither. Just think of someone that's important to you, you haven't spoken to in a little while, just reach out. You know what, it's, people talk a lot of shit about making phone calls. Millennials, we hate phone calls, all that nonsense. It's a really good way to convey information.

Uh, you can hear tone and intent in people's voices. It's much faster than typing. Just lie down, jump on the phone and make a quick call. It's pretty straightforward. Yep. You should have a chat to your mom or that auntie that you like. Yeah, go ahead. Call your grandparents. When's the last time you did that? Yeah. There we have it folks. Take one of one of Dr. Ben's advice pills, treat yourself to a little... I wish you wouldn't call them that. A little bit of self-care, a little spiritual enrichment, you know. And we will see a wonderful subscribers over on the bonus episodes and everybody else.

The rest of you scum, the Dregs, we'll see you in hell. We'll see you in hell, which is what we call next week's free episode. See you later, folks. Thanks say goodbye. He's dead. He died. I could say it very quietly. I forgot I was muted. It's terrible. It's goodby into a microphone that wasn't turned on. Unbelievable. Goodbye.