Boonta Vista - EPISODE 42: Owned Benjamin

Episode Date: April 9, 2018

We're back for a brand new edition of HoggWatch in which we delved into one of our favourite topics: conservative "comedy". Ha. Ha ha. Featuring chat about David Hogg, Laura Ingraham, Owen Benjamin a...nd the idea that maybe conservative comedy doesn't actually exist? Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: http://boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bontavista Socialist Club episode 42. That seems like, oh no, we're just, we're just one off from the old Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference. If you're into that kind of shit. No, what number is that? What number do you think the Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy reference number is? Oh fuck, I're into that kind of shit. No, what number do you think the Hitchhiker's Guide the Galaxy reference number is? Oh fuck I thought it was 43. That's 42 isn't it? Well... fucking god damn nerd. One number off. Being one number off.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yes. One number away. I'll tell you what's crazy about this episode number. If you add one to it and then you subtract one. Mm-hmm. You end up with the number of g g g g galaxy galaxy galaxy g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g gi the galaxy the galaxy the gi the gi the gi the gi the gi the gi the gi the gi. the gi. the gi. the gi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the what's crazy about this episode number. If you add one to it and then you subtract one, you end up with the number 42. Yeah, which is? One-tenth of the best number of all time, baby. And there we go. So here we are folks. We're back again, back in the saddle. I got the whole crew here. I am Andrew.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And of course, you'll be familiar with a lad with the sweetest, sweetest voice of all. It's Ben. Oh man, that could have gone either way and I tell you what is. That's not where I thought you were going with that. No, I was like, oh, okay, so he said it's a voice, you know, it's probably you. Oh, so kind of you. It's compliments all round, isn't it? A soft and gentle, what would you call that, maybe a Sotto tenor, perhaps. Yeah, I think so. It's delightful to listen to.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's like a normal voice man talking to you from slightly far away. See, I feel like you just took the credit that I should get for giving you that compliment and just transferred it to yourself getting the credit from Theo. Oh I mean thank you for something that would be nice to me but it was misdirected and you should have given your compliment to Theo and I'm happy to pass it on. So so that's ungrateful Ben, folks. And we're also joined by someone with who has a voice. He has a voice. It can be characterized in many ways.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Here we have a man with a gruff, gravelly voice. Here we have a man with a gruff, a gruff gravelly voice that we all know him respect makes people fearful, makes them quake in their boots when they hear him coming, shouting from around the corner about all of his manly interests, it is of course Theo. Hey guys. That's my boy. And bringing up the rear, bringing up the butt of the show, bringing up the pantomime horse's ass. It's our beloved Lucy. Hi Lucy. It's me. Hello. Hello. How was your hour being extremely wedged into the sardine can of a tram today? Yeah, that sucked us. Took me two hours to get home from work,
Starting point is 00:03:26 so I'm feeling grumpy. I'm ready to get very mad at nothing. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're here for. Well, last week, as some of you may remember, we put to bed the controversy from the week before, which we to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to the to to the to to the to to the to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.. the the the the the the. the the the. the. tooooooooooooooom. I. toe. toe. toe. toe. the week before which was of course ball watch. And then we launched into a whole new controversy which we as yet do not have a
Starting point is 00:03:50 resolution to and that was boat watch. So you know we don't have any updates on that for you. We don't know if the charges have been laid against the mayor of Logan. I mean being very frank I don't think any of us checked. That's that's fair. That's a safe assessment. It's a reasonable conclusion to come to. So in lieu of any of us having bothered to check that which to give credit to you Ben you very accurately predicted. I said we'll check back in on this and you said, no we won't. I don't remember saying that, but I'm glad that I did.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You did, Nostradamus of our time. There has been, the prediction. More like nostril Darmus, because I love cocaine. Oh dear. So instead we're going to have to move on to something else altogether. Folks, we're bringing you a brand new segment, which I'm sure will repeat many times over like you do with a segment, and that is of course, hog watch. Oh man, I was going to do a bit there where I was like, oh man, I'm so excited. Andrew was saying he did this really amazing theme song, I'm really excited to hear what it is,
Starting point is 00:05:15 assuming that you had not got a theme or a stig ready for that. There you go. There it was. Incredible. I can't believe I underestimated you. Well in fairness it's the same sting that I've used three weeks in a row. No, no, you fucked up last week and you used a different one. Yeah, but then I put it back in when I closed the second though. Jesus. You guys don't listen to the final product and that's cool. That's cool that you don't care enough. I sent it over to you guys and I'm like, you guys want to check this out for me and you all go, uh-huh, and then nobody listens to it, that's fine. I listen to it. That's cool. Don't put that on me, but as I've demonstrated, I can't remember
Starting point is 00:05:52 what I said last week, let alone, we're watching a hog. Specifically, David hog. We're watching David's hog. Don't, you cannot say that. Don't get retract. Just let me get one in. One comment about the teenagers penis and that I am done. I'm done now. I'm done. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:21 David hog is of course a 17-year-old? That's certainly true, yes. Yeah, great. 17-year-old whose hog Lucy wants to wash if we're getting specific. Oh no, I regret that now. Yeah, now you do. 17-year-old survivor of the Parkland shootings in the states, which have led to the great big, hash- hashtag never again gun control movement.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Which if you ask me it's pretty reasonable. It's pretty reasonable to just ask to not be shot so much with an assault rifle, you know? I can hear somebody's ears perking up out there and saying it's not an assault rifle, to which I would say, then what does the AR stand for? You know? Well, as I've said many times, the A stands for assault rifle, and the R stands for AR-15. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:07:24 So, proving, I think continuing to prove that basically the right wing in the states has 110% completely lost the plot, there is no ideology anymore, there is no guiding principle. Everything is culture wars, everything is tribalism, everything is taking a side. And what better proof could we find for that than thousands and thousands of people, both imagining a reason to and taking it upon themselves to, very heatedly attack the 17-year-old survivor of a school shooting who was said perhaps you could not shoot us so much with your AR 15 assault rifle, assault rifle 15 rifles. So there's been some controversy, there's been things going on.
Starting point is 00:08:22 The big one, the big news has of course been David Hogg's interactions with Laura Ingraham. That's how I'm pronouncing it now. Sure. Yeah, that appears correct. Ben, would you like to fill us in? What's been going on here? I certainly would. Someone ran a story about how David Hogg got rejected by a number of colleges through his college applications, which is relatively normal. And then there was a video of him on TMZ, like a throwaway sentence of him being like, you know, I'm trying to do all the stuff and also I got rejected by some colleges, this sucks. Then Laura Ingram, full-grown human adult, hopped on the toots, and linked to an article about it saying, David Hogg rejected by four colleges to which he
Starting point is 00:09:14 applied and winds about it. Brackets dinged by UCLA with a 4.1 GPA. Totally predictable, given acceptance rates, close bracket. Immediately afterwards, David Hogg listed 12 advertisers of Laura that advertised during Laura Ingram's Fox News program and said, pick a number between one and 12, whichever one, tweet them and tell them to boycott her show. Very, very swiftly, 15 advertisers dropped from the show. Following which, Lauren Grimm jumped back on the toots. With this wonderful retraction, any student should be proud of a 4.2 GPA, including David Hogg, on reflection, in the spirit of the Holy Week,
Starting point is 00:10:02 I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland. I like the idea that if it wasn't Easter, that this apology, pseudo-apology, would not have been forthcoming. Well, Easter is the time that you apologize to people? Yeah, um, I'd also like to immediately call it classic classic non-apology Classic not actual taking ownership of the thing because after all She apologizes for any upset or hurt that the tweet caused to anybody else People in the old I'm sorry you were upset. Yes. That's a good one. You were offended Real real real classic.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Real class act. But uh... That sort of vaguely reminds me, I have no idea why I'm bringing this up now that I'm thinking about it. You know the bit in love actually where the dude's doing the thing with the... Shut the fuck up. Lucy, you've seen it. You know where he's doing the thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with thing with the thing with the thing with thing with thing with the the thi the thi the the thi the the thi thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the the thi thi thi the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thing with the... shut the fuck up. Lucy you've seen it, god damn. You know where he's doing the thing with the flippy cards at the end and he says that
Starting point is 00:11:08 thing about Christmas being the time that you tell the truth? Yes. It's not a thing. The Holy Week is the time that you apologize. Yeah I think people are just Easter is the time they eat eggs, Christmas is the time time time time time time time time ti the time time time the time the time the the time the the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the the the the the time the time the time the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. tie. tha. time time time time time time time time time tha.ea tha.ea.ea. tha. tha. thea. thea. the. the. the. th time they eat ham. That's the beginning and the end of the religious holidays. Yep, and then drops that last card that says, I'm sorry for the hurt I caused you or any of the brave victims of the parkland shooting. Sorry to the hurt that I caused my best friend for sneak around behind his back with you. That's back to that movie. I still haven't seen the movie. Spoiler al't seen the movie. I don't. Spoiler a lot, spoiler a lot for that movie. Geez. Now this of course brings us back into a classic bit of territory, which is when people do organize things like advertis or boycotts and that sort of stuff when they reach out to the
Starting point is 00:12:00 people whose money actually supports a show or a whatever and say, hey, have you seen what this person's up to? Is that kind of align with your brand or whatever and they go, nope, not enough for us to stick in here. We'd much rather not hear about it from you. So what if we just don't advertise with Flora Ingram anymore? Which of course sends a lot of right-wingers into an apoplectic rage about censorship, free speech, the First Amendment.
Starting point is 00:12:34 All that kind of jazz. So you know, we get into the classic struggle between the right and left about free speech versus free speech not meaning that you can say and do absolutely anything you want and no one in society has a right to criticize you or take any kind of action about it no kind of consequences whatsoever and they love capitalism and that's the purest example of the free market that I can think of. I saw something today I'm loath to mention her on the show but I just saw a screenshot of a screenshot of the free market that I can think of. I saw something today, I'm loath to mention her on the show, but I just saw a screenshot of a dear friend of the show,
Starting point is 00:13:11 Daisy Cousins, trying to argue that boycotts weren't the free market. Oh God, it was bad. I watched it. It's very bad that she's very stupid in her brain. Which I just, I don't understand like the market, like a boycott is individuals in the market making a decision not to engage with a product or service. So if you don't like boycotts it should only corporations be able to I don't I don't understand the logic there but I think it all makes sense when you realize that instead of having a brain, there is a very small skeleton of a lizard sitting in there doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Rattling around. Yeah, I think, um, it's, it's very, very silly logic as well to say, ugh, it's not the free mark. Because, like, I imagine that the angle some of these people take is, it, the brain, the brain, the, the brain, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, I thin, thin, I thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I th, I thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I thin, I don't thin, I the thin, I don't the the the, I thin, I to say, ugh, it's not the free market. Because, like, I imagine that the angle some of these people take is, oh, well, that's not the free market. That's loudmouth activists hassling a company and strong-arming them into doing a thing and all that sort of stuff. And I would say to any of those people, grow the fuck up because any decision like that that a company or a corporation takes is 100% based on their calculations of which action
Starting point is 00:14:36 do we stand to make or lose the most money through. If they, if they like, if they looked around and said, oh look, it's fucking 20 people writing us a letter, we don't really give a shit about this stuff, like our own customer base would actually prefer it if we told these people to fuck off, all that kind of stuff, they would do it. They would absolutely do it. They're going to do whatever thing they think is to just sustain their sales, whatever it is. They're not doing it like, and this absolutely goes in the other direction too. You know, you have like all the writers of the Australian and
Starting point is 00:15:11 this constant froth about like Alan Joyce from Quantis being gay and having the temerity to say that they should treat their gay customers the same as their straight ones and all that sort of stuff. But again, I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is, th is, thi, is, is thi, is thi, is going thi, is going thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is th th th th th th th th thi, is is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is going thi, is going thi, is going thin, is going thin, is going thin, is going thin, is going thin, is going thin, is thiniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thin thin thin, is thin, is thin gay customers the same as their straight ones and all that sort of stuff. But again, I would say to you, if Quantis thought that they would make a shitload more money being like lightly discriminatory towards gay people, that's what they be doing. I think they have just made the calculation that in the society they live in, in the society that their business operates, the vast majority of people would like to see th.. th the their the their their the their their their their the their their they. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they that their business operates, the vast majority of people would like to see people other than straight people treated the same. And so they go, oh well, well that's the values of the society that we're living in at large.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So we'll get in line with that and more people will go with us as a company. I don't know, I don't, I don't understand people who kind of buy into this idea that like companies are doing any of this shit because they want to be your friend or make the world a better place or any of that sort of stuff. At the end of the day whatever's making the most money, that's what we're going with. And it works in both directions. It's like I was saying last week on the th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, on, on thi thi thi thi, on thi, on thi, on thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like thi's thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like is thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, like, like about like Black Panther and and representative representation in movies and all that sort of shit. It's nice and people like it and it's and it's good for people to see role models up on the screen and all that sort of stuff and also they've made a fucking phenomenal amount of money out of doing it which is kind of the main driver for a
Starting point is 00:16:43 business like Disney. So so this idea that people like Daisy Cousens have that it's not the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the kind of the main driver for a business like Disney. So this idea that people like Daisy Cousins have, that it's not the free market at work, that it's not a company responding to just looking at the market and saying, which way does this shake out best for us? It's fucking silly. So Daisy, just glue that little lizard skeleton into place. And that's what will make it work as a braid. Well, at least it won't be as loud.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It won't be rattling. That's certainly true. That goes a long way. Think about how distracting it would be. Like every time she's jogging to catch her train or bus or whatever it is that takes her to the Sky News studios where she takes her Anne Rice cosplay selfies before she goes on a fucking Andrew Bolchow and just to hear the noise of all those little lizard bones rattling around there while you're trying to try to jog and catch a bus. Nightmarish. I think you're right. This is a I think you're right. This is a, I
Starting point is 00:17:45 think this is an official declaration on the show, Daisy Cousins, as common courtesy to the people around you trying to go out their commute. Please, glue down the lizard skeleton inside your skull. That noise is very irritating. So it looks like potentially, I don't know, this could go one of two ways for Laura Ingram. It could go the way of Bill O'Reilly, who in the wake of all of his sexual harassment scandals had a whole bunch of advertisers pull out from his show and he said, I'm going on break for Easter and that break is still going. Or it could go the way of Sean Hannity, I think it was, last year.
Starting point is 00:18:27 There was also a big advertiser boycott against him, and he took a break, and then he came back a bit later, and he's still hanging out, stinking up the joint. So as to whether or not Laura Ingerum returns, that will be interesting to see her very unscheduled holiday. But until then on Hogwatch, David Hog has a whole bunch of other people to content with, starting with, a friend of the show, Alex Jones. I would like to say that on a regular basis, our show gets higher than Alex Jones's show on the Australian iTunes Store. So take that the anti-illuminati resistance.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Don't make him angry. He's scary. He scares me. Don't make him take off his shirt. He'll take it off. Don't make him play all of his vintage synthesizers at you. Wait, is that a thing? That is absolutely a thing you should fucking see how many synthesizers Alex Jones has. It is out of control. Well, this is sort of humanizing him a bit for me now, actually. It's wild. Well, I mean, like, you know, if you had that much money, of course you'd have a big room full of synthesizers. You're not wrong. So what has Alex Jones been up to Ben? Let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So obviously, as is his want, Alex Jones immediately leapt onto the crisis actor bandwagon, or started the bandwagon, I'm not 100% sure, but... So he went on a very big, sort of tirade about how he wasn't really there, he's been a bunch of other videos for other shootings, he's actually 23, he's in college, blah blah blah, all this nonsense. And then he kind of dropped off that for a bit for a reason which I will get into in a sec, but something I found extraordinarily funny was him wheeling out his 15 year old son to debate David Hogg, well to challenge Hogg to a debate. So there's a video on on YouTube, I believe you can
Starting point is 00:20:34 look up that's just Alex Jones's 15 year old son wearing a suit sitting at his dad's chair in his dad's studio, angrily yelling at the screen in a very Jones-like fashion, as described by the Daily Mail, the 15-year-old son of Alex Jones, the founder of the far-right site, InfoWars.com, is challenged Parkland Survivor, David Hogg to a debate. The site posted a video featuring Rex Jones, who is seen in his father's toasting hog for his partner hog for his part in the public campaign pushing for stricter gun laws in the United States. I just think it's very, very important to note that this child, Rex Jones, is one of the children about whom Alex Jones forgot several important details because, so, there's a court deposition that says that Alex Jones
Starting point is 00:21:28 forgot several important details about his children because he had been eating a big bowl of chili for lunch prior. Very normal man. He's currently being sued by a man, a boy I I guess that was misidentified by Jones and Info Wars as Nicholas Cruz, the shooter in the Parkland shooting. And they ran all their angles about the story by saying that the Parkland Shooter was a communist because there's a photo of this guy who was not the shooter wearing that fucking like ten dollartease joke teas t-shirt that's like a bunch of famous communist figures having a party. Communist party. It's a communist party shirt.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Like every fucking dickhead in 2007 owned that shirt and the joke stopped being funny more or less immediately but yeah they ran with that. So enjoy a lawsuit my good bitch. Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see how it goes, because part of that, if we all recall, part of that deposition about, well, and it's worth noting especially that this means that canonically Alex Jones is a family called dad. But also, part of that whole deposition involved them saying, well, look at what he does for a living.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Watch any of these eight-hour-long insanity-laced conspiracy-fueled rants. And then his response to that in the court case was to say, ah, that's a bit I'm doing. That's a character. Alex Jones, the court case was to say, ah, that's a bit I'm doing. That's a character. Alex Jones, the character. That's not really me. Which I found really interesting at the time, because I was like, I wonder how many of his fans
Starting point is 00:23:15 would have seen that and gone. What? Or how many of them would have seen and gone, ah, yes, he's tricking the deep state. But, like, but yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, thi, that, that, that's thi, tho, that, thr-s, that, thin, thin, thin, thin, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. that's, that's, that's, that's that's not, that's that's not that's not that's not th. that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that, th he's tricking the deep state. But like, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see whether or not he comes around in that court case and says, ah, I was just a bit I was doing on my fiction show in his defense with that one. How far can that defense really go? Probably not that far. Anyway, it continues on in Hogwatch. Yep, we have a gentleman by the name of Charles C. Cook, writing in the National Review in an article, February 27th date, titled David Hogg is a fair game for critics, which
Starting point is 00:23:53 is all like 20 paragraphs of rationalising of why it's perfectly fine to attack this teen. But there was just one paragraph in here that I found particularly engaging. Yesterday, I criticized Hog for his routine incoherence and immediately encountered a host of apologist who submitted that to engage with his remonstrations was mean or inappropriate or an example of punching down. Like, so I mean, so his whole argument was that you should be able to engage with his arguments because he's potentially affecting public policy or whatever. This is fine, but then he gets the arguments because he's potentially affecting public policy or whatever. This is fine, but then he gets to this point where he's like, oh, just because I made fun
Starting point is 00:24:28 of how this 17-year-old's public speaking skills aren't that good. Suddenly I'm a dick. Yeah, and there's a, there's that fine line, isn't there between what a lot of these people say about like, oh, we should all be able to engage in the marketplace of ideas and that sort of stuff. And maybe that would be fine if you actually followed your own rules and stuck to the ideas that this person was talking about and not, as we have seen from various people, like, thousands of peopleting this 17-year-old survivor of a school shooting about like, do you even have pubs yet? Oh boy, we are going to get to pub chat. Yeah, yeah, it's like is, is that, is that, you know, the marketplace of ideas or is that just being a fucking psycho on the internet?
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's definitely being extremely weird. So this other one was one from some fucking Marga YouTube chud dude that only cropped up because Ashley Feinberg posted a screenshot of it because Don Trump Jr. had liked it on Instagram. It's just a tweet saying, To everyone saying I shouldn't attack David Hogg because he's just a child, I'm trans age. I identify as a 17-year-old. That's a thing. I'm 17 now and you have to honor that, so you stop attacking me. I'm just a teenager. Oh wait. Oh wait, hashtag your rules.
Starting point is 00:26:08 God I hate it when I'm hoisted by my own petard. And yet here we are. All... I've already forgotten. I feel like we went through this on a previous episode what's being hoisted on a bathe today. Oh, it's like a little bomb. It's a bomb. What's the hoisting element again? What's a bomb on a bomb on a bomb on a bomb on a bomb on a bomb on a bomb on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on a stick on. It's a bomb. It's a bomb. What's the hoisting element again? Well, it's a bomb on a stick.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And you're up on the stick. No, it just means being blown up by your own bomb pretty much. Hoisted to me is definitely being raised. Yeah, it's not in fact like being wedged on a flagpole, which I feel is what we kind of all picture. Yeah, certainly. that it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, that, it, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's, it's, it, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th thee th the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And of course, we also have previously spoken about a variation of this, which is the whole, what was it that you quoted the sort of common Chud thing, Theo, of like, oh, I identify as an attack helicopter. Yeah, as an Apache attack helicopter. Like it's, like it's the, it's the funniest thing in the world like all of these people
Starting point is 00:27:07 five years ago read that article about some social news site might have been Facebook at the time having a drop-down box and you can choose 34 different genders right like it literally doesn't matter and they've taken that as like the founding like, um, they're, um, they're, um, they're, um, they're, um, they're, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the've taken that as, like, the founding, like, their fundamental understanding of gender from then on. Canonical, that's right. There is exactly 34 genders, you know, and, and one person made one joke about it four years ago, which they are still laughing about. And it's just the weirdest most incoherent shit. That's because they're so good at comedy. Incredible at comedy.
Starting point is 00:27:59 In like a pretty similar vein to that, there was this, I didn't get any of them, but there's a bunch of people following the shooting that was at the YouTube headquarters, talking about how, because this woman was a member of Peter, that because everyone was saying the NRA is a terrorist organization, that must mean that Peter also is? Or like, well why aren't you telling them they should take care of gun control now? It's like, well, okay, I can tell you think that's a very good gotcha, but Peter does not promote gun use and ownership, so that doesn't really transfer that way. Yeah, it's incredibly, incredibly dumb. Yeah, so much of the time with those things like saying,
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think it's a very clever gotcha. They think it's like, aha, I have turned your own logic against you. And you're like, well, you've, you've fallen at the very first hurdle. Yeah. Yeah. But what do you think of this? And the little, and the button, and the button, and the button, and the button, and the button, and the button, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. So, so. th. So, so. So, so. th broken your own nose against the ground. And the little button pops off the back of their old time pajamas flap falls down. Tiny little fart comes out of their butt. Well you didn't think of that did you?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Uh, so I bet when, yeah, when they do that one, they can really picture people's monocles dropping to the floor and shattering, their comabuns, you know, just rattling up like a Venetian blind, stovepipe, top hat exploding upwards. It's just, it's just not at all how it works. It's the kind of thing that, like, apart from anything else, I think that it also shows you that, again, from the side of politics that likes to posture as, well, we trade in logic and reason and facts and arguments and, you know, know the battle the battlefield of ideas and all this sort of stuff I think that that sort of stuff also
Starting point is 00:30:12 makes it extremely clear that they have not done even the most cursory attempt at learning. Like, you know, you don't have to indoctrinate yourself into the same shit other people leave and all that sort of stuff. But like, have a skim. You know, read the Wikipedia entry on what people think it is and how it works, that kind of shit. And clearly, a lot of people, like you're saying saying Theo, if you're basing your entire understanding of something like that off of this one joke that you saw four years ago, and that's what you stick them with, then do you really have that much of a basis for criticism? I don't know. We also have classic big notorious child support non-payer Joe Walsh, don't we?
Starting point is 00:31:07 We sure do. So his approach to this. Just relatively innocuous by the standards of what these people do, but just like, when you think about what he's doing, it's so fucking insane. So he did a tweet linking to an article about how gun sales went up in March, right? The tweet was, gun sales saw, emphasis his, in March, set new one month record. This is great news. A big thank you for this to all of you who participated in March for our lives.
Starting point is 00:31:44 A special shout out to at David Hogg 1-1, full stop. That is of course the Twitter handle of David Hog. So this man, grown man in his 50s with kids, he doesn't pay child support for, uh, yep. It took the time to single out a 17-year-old on Twitter who was at his school when a gunman entered, killed 17 people that he went to school with, injured 17 more, it is celebrating to this boy taunting him in front of everyone that more of these guns are in the world now.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Take that child who watched his friends die. And I love how he's like, well it's not just Joe Walsh, like the, every single time that anybody whispers the words child support, you know, someone on the right has to make this tweet. So I'd say child support, I meant gun control. But it does, it doesn't, it was totally unintentional. But it does, like, it doesn't show anything logical about the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's thi. It's not, thi. It's not, thi. It's not just just, th. toeologe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. that's not just, it's not just, it's not, it's not, it's't, it was totally unintentional. But it doesn't show anything logical about their viewpoint or the point that they're trying to make, right? It's just somebody talks about gun control and everybody is extremely gullible and thinks
Starting point is 00:33:00 that guns are going away despite the fact that they haven't gone away any time in history, and then they go out and they buy more guns. And it's a totally predictable effect. It happens every single time and they all want to point to it as if it means something other than these people are extremely stupid. Well, you could also go one further than that and say that in the wake of a mass shooting, the NRA immediately takes that opportunity to turn around and say, now the government is going to try and take away everyone's guns, even though we all know that if everyone had guns, we'd all be much safer and a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, etc.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And then a whole bunch of gun stores around the country put on sales and immediately reduce the price of a whole bunch of shit they're trying offload and people go out and buy it. It's not even dumb people get excited. It's that there's actual steps in between as well. Like even when Trump was talking about banning the bump stocks in the wake of Parkland and a bunch of places immediately had like sales of bump stocks and like, like, people call them like freedom sales and shit
Starting point is 00:34:26 like that it's just just atrocious why are they so stupid why is everybody very stupid except me it's unfortunate it's very frustrating it's like it's like so much hard right and libertarian stuff where like, there isn't an actual ideology. Everything is about masking the fact that you don't want to have to make any concessions when it comes to your hobby. Yeah, that's all it is. Why would I, why should I have to do that? Yeah, it's a very, very silly situation.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I think that, and I should say as well, from my own perspective, I have not been, you know, watching every interview with David Hogg and every speech that he's given and carefully monitoring all his tweets and all that sort of stuff. But as far as I can tell, yeah, as far as I can tell from the teens that have been leading that movement, they all seem like they are dealing exceptionally well with what is both a horrible and extraordinary scenario. So shout out, shout out to them. Shout out to the teens. The teens are our friends. Shout out to the teens. Even though they're slightly pro cop. But we can we can ignore that part, that's fine. Yeah, they'll grow up. Wow. Yep. But I mean, like, that's the thing is, you know, there has been a lot of, well,
Starting point is 00:35:58 I don't know, a lot. But there has been some pretty worthwhile left-wing criticism of the way that whole, what that movement is actually specifically fighting for and how they're going about it, which I think is pretty reasonable, and it is perfectly fine to think that without like trying to drag a 17-year-old mass shooting survivor for his penis. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Uh, at which point, we're going to segue to another topic here, which does relate, which is a, I'm doing massive air quotes right now. I'm waving my hands around, scaring the cat. Stand up comedian, I hope you can hear the quotes. Owen Benjamin, who is yet another of a, uh, the other, uh, the other, uh, which is, um, which, uh, which, uh, which, uh, uh, uh, uh, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, which, to, which, to, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, you can hear the quotes, Owen Benjamin, who is yet another of our large cast
Starting point is 00:36:51 of Far Right Grifters in the States. I believe he was at that stupid, a Knight for Freedom thing with like Mike Surnovich and, and Gavin McInnes and all there's other pieces of shit and so he's he is ostensibly a comedian and he also does of the best kind of comedy musical comedy with a keyboard and like with a lot of these people
Starting point is 00:37:22 I find myself really wondering how many of them actually believe the stuff they're saying and how many people go, oh, there's a massive market on the right wing for comedians, because there aren't any, because right wing comedy isn't funny. And I can get myself a massive following really quickly, if I just say the stupid shit that they want to hear. Owen Benjamin has been tweeting non-stop at David Hogg about his dick and his pubs. Oh guys, I have some tremendous news. Is it about your pubs? It's about my pubs. I've got them! Finally! So before we began this show, a little peek behind the curtain, you know, I prepared some notes and I had a link
Starting point is 00:38:13 ready to go for all the tweets, Alan Benjamin has done in the last 48 hours to David Hogg about his pubs. In the time between then and now, approximately an hour, hour and a half, Owen Benjamin has been suspended from Twitter. Hey! Because of pubs? Wow. Well, it's probably because of the targeted harassment of a 17-year-old about his genitals. I'm very worried now that I've said something about Caleb Bond's pubs in the past.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, you said you wanted to watch this guy's hog at the start of the show, so. Hmm. I would just like to clarify that it's okay to bully Caleb Bond because his opinions are bad. And he's an adult. That's absolutely fair. Hmm. Not about his pubs, thupes though. Yeah, whereas David Hawke is a minor in the States, and this dude has been tweeting at him non-stop about his balls and his pubs, about smooth balls. That's very strange. It's not a normal thing to do. No. I was going to read all these out, but obviously I can't now. I mean, just to vaguely summarize, he just did a bunch in a row about you being like, hey, he hasn't even got pubs yet. And then like tweeting directly I've been at him being like,
Starting point is 00:39:30 hey, have you pubs come in yet? And then when people are like, oh man, I don't know if you should be doing that. He then did like ten tweets. Also adding him being about, oh, it's suddenly weird to talking talk a tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tween, tween, tween, to tween, to tween, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, twee, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, tween, t, t, twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee. twee.s. Oh, you think it's sexual to talk about a teed's pubs? Uh, which kept getting more and more insane. Uh, and then, yeah, well, suddenly he's gone. Oh, I found one. I found an image of one. Hey, David Hogg, one-one. Feel free to try and boycott me. I don't have sponsors blah blah blah blah anyway when did you grow pubs don't you think it's weird that you are telling grown men how to live when
Starting point is 00:40:07 you barely have pubs okay colleges college the way enjoy gay college well so you didn't even wait this dude is funny for an answer to ask what he asked what he asked this all one tweet yeah it's just weird to be like when did you try to the answer why do you both the to ask to to to ask to ask to ask to to the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to they. the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the they. the the the they. the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. the. the. the. the they. the the the the. the tweets, it's all one tweet. Yeah, it's just weird to be like, when did you get pubs? And then to go on as if he knows the answer, why'd you bother asking, bro? Why do you ask? College is gay, lull. Now, my experience, college is pretty gay. All of my first gay experiences
Starting point is 00:40:35 were when I was at university. So, this to me is a both a perfect example of, well, several things that we've talked about before on the show. Number one, conservative comedians not actually being funny. Number two, saying a bunch of things that you have deliberately intended to be provocative and offensive to specific people, and then when those people react exactly as you hoped they would to say, ah, look at all these people, trying to silence me and everything, when in reality what the people are saying is, shut the fuck up, you
Starting point is 00:41:18 idiot. You just a duce. You're a huge moronon and no one wants to listen to. So there was a further story that somebody dug up in the wake of this. This is a story from the town that Owen Benjamin lives in. He had been doing a performance at somewhere and it didn't go well, I think that's safe to say. It is from the Oh god, this is gonna be good A Dierendack? I see that's the way I would have pronounced it. That's not how it's fucking pronounced It's out of a run actually know oh for fuck sake. How does Lucy know this? Because they're like the team that's like the little person's team for my ice hockey team? I'm? It, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th, it's th, it's th, th, th-it, thi thi thi-it, tho, the their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th, th. Oh, th. th. Oh, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their tho, their th-uh, their their their their their their their their their their their their, tho, they're like the team that's like the little person's team for my ice hockey team. I'm sorry what? Very complicated. The team that's the little
Starting point is 00:42:10 person's team. Like the junior, the one that they go in before the major league team. Oh like the feeder club. Were we all picturing like an ice hockey team? the dwarf ice hockey te? No. I couldn, I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. It's, th. It's, thi. It's thi, thi, thi, the the the thi, the the the the the the the thi, the thi, the thi, the thi, the, the, the, it's, dwarfs just then. No. Couldn't make the words come from a minute. I would absolutely believe that that's something Lucy voluntarily watches. Dwarf ice hockey. It's hardly illegal. Can you pronounce that for us again, Lucy? Adirondack. The Adirondack Daily Enterprise, that masthead of note, printing a story with the title, comedian rants for a week about negative reaction to
Starting point is 00:42:47 racial joke. by local reporter Griffin Kelly. That's a headline. Uh, editors note, this article contains language. Some readers might find offensive. Now if you would like to use your brain to slightly reconfigure that to say, podcast note and listeners, then that will also apply to when I'm about to read it to you. Are you warning us that you're going to say the end word?
Starting point is 00:43:12 Unfortunately, unfortunately it's going to happen again, folks. Because this is the context, this is the context that we're talking about it in. And I just don't believe in saying, in gingerly saying, context, this is the context that we're talking about it in. And I just don't believe in saying, gingerly saying, N-word. You're going to say it with some gusto, aren't you? No. No, I'm not. I'm just going to read the article as it's written. How about that, folks? It does. We'll get into it. It's going to get ugly. That's all I'm just going to read the article as it's written. How about that, folks? We'll get into it. We'll get into it. It's going to get ugly.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That's all I'm saying. It's going to get ugly. Saranak Lake. A Catholic school won't accept his donations. His son's babysitter quit, and the town supervisor is publicly apologizing for letting him perform at the town hall. Nationally famous stand-up comedian Owen Benjamin responded with a week-long series of rants to his hundred thousand plus social media followers and says he's moving out of Saranac Lake. Benjamin whose birth name is Owen Smith
Starting point is 00:44:18 recently told a joke that has caused some controversy in this village. During a live performance at the Harriet's Town's... During a live performance at the Harriet's town town, Town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town, town village. During a live performance at the Harriet's Towns... During a live performance at the Harriet's Town Hall on Saturday, February 24th, which was recorded for future release, he sang a song that some found unpleasant. I'm tugging at my collar right now, just so you know, sorry in advance. The title of that song is, That nigger stole my bike. Wow. It's the one with an A instead of an ER,
Starting point is 00:44:50 if you would like the additional context. Wow. Yeah. Oh boy. Now, this also, much like the, um, much like the, uh, I identify as an Apache attack helicopter thing. This is also like one joke that fucking 4chan racists have been doing since like 2002.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And apparently it hasn't changed since then. It's just the same one. Anyway, since the show, Benjamin has posted multiple YouTube videos, a handful of Instagram photos and more than a hundred tweets in self-defense. The scored thinks the racist doth protest too much. It's so good. Whoever is writing it just fucking hates that guy. One video titled, The Root of Power, a very Dangerous Thought, and My Brother is Still My Hero, clocks in just over four hours and 46 minutes. Many posts relate to his views on censorship, liberal Hollywood, communism and free speech.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, I mean what kind of fucking idiot would sit there and record hours of opinions and then post them on the internet. Hey shut the fuck up. One hour at a time is reasonable. Yes them on the internet. Hey, shut the fuck up! One hour at a time is reasonable. Yes, not including bonus episodes, this will be the 43rd hour of the show. I believe technically all time occurs one hour at a time. Anyway, Marilyn Bigelow, an audience member at the show said she was offended by the joke and didn't find it very funny.
Starting point is 00:46:25 However, she couldn't remember its exact context or setup. Now I just personally I would like to pause for a second and say, to me, the really important part of that sentence is, didn't find it very funny. You can have jokes that are, that like touch on sensitive subjects and weird issues and all that sort of stuff and it takes a really talented comedian to make them work by actually making them funny. If you happen to think that the entire concept of like whatever it is, edgy humor, pushing boundaries, all that sort of stuff, is literally to say an extremely offensive thing as you know blankly as you possibly can, you're
Starting point is 00:47:13 just really bad at comedy? The Enterprise staff did not attend the show, so Benjamin explained the context of the joke via Twitter. Okay. Quote, I'm missing my bike and I see a white guy on a horse and I tell that, as I tell that, as I the, as a as-as, as as, as as, as a thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as an thin, as thin, as an thin, as an thin, as an thing, as an thing, as an things things things things thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, as thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, the, theeeee, theeeeeeeeeeeeeee, theeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thin, thin, thin, thin, th context of the joke via Twitter. Okay. Quote, I'm missing my bike and I see a white guy on a horse and I yell, that's my bike. Then I see a black guy on what I know is my bike, but I don't want to be racist. I tell myself not to accuse him because he's been through enough. Then I burst out with the most racist thing I can say. Benjamin then begins to play a song that is basically... thi. thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the thi. the thi. thi. the thi. thi. I the. I the, the, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the, th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, I the, thean, thean. I thean. I thean. I'm thean. I mc. I mc. I'm thean. I'm thean. I'm thean. I thean. I thean. I the the most racist thing I can say. Benjamin then begins to play a song that is basically two minutes of him singing That nigger stole my bike, set to him playing on piano the music from the 1980s Nintendo video game Mike Tyson's Punch Out.
Starting point is 00:47:58 The refrain is a reference to a popular meme from the early 2000s. Benjamin called it, quote, one of the most harmless jokes imaginable. Wow. So like to me this this commits like every cardinal sin against comedy that I can pretty much imagine. It is incoherent. The setup makes no sense. It bears no relation to what I can only assume he thinks is the punchline. The punchline is something that does not relate to the setup. It relates to music from a 1980s video game that approximately 0% of hitter's audience or any other reasonable adult is actually going to recognize.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And the entire thing is him just literally saying a racist meme from the early 2000s over and over again. Not even funny racism. Yeah. What's your favorite kind of funny racism, Lucy? A big fan of a millennialial comedian Dan Nainan. Are you familiar with his work? I hear his great up-and-coming stir. Yeah, I love to hear a young fresh voice of comedy.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah, so his mother is Japanese and his father is Indian, so he buys his sushi at 7-Eleven. Does 7-Eleven do particularly good sushi? Is that where he's? I assume so. I assume that's that's the joke. But, yeah, that's funny racism to me. It's very good. Good tip for all our listeners.
Starting point is 00:49:37 A lot of people think that maybe getting sitting there for ages in a 7-Eleven fridge wouldn't be good but it's quite good. This guy's half Japanese and he thinks it's good so go to 7-11 this is a ringing endorsement for wage theft lovers 7-11 to get your sushi from there. Hmm classic comedy. Classic comedy. Classic comedy. So going on a good amount of Benjamin's routine revolves around making fun of political correctness and 21st century liberalism. He goes after vegans. Oh, that's another fresh topic, isn't it? You know that a vegan is a Native American word that means bad hunter. Ha ha ha ha ha. Well, after the podcast, after the podcast, you guys remind me to let you know how to find a vegan at a party.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I kind of won't wait. Yes. He goes after vegans, transgender people and young white, quote, leftists, who use the words privileged and guilt when referring to males and other Caucasians. Some of the original songs Benjamin plays on the piano include the 12 Triggers of Christmas, Soy Boy Anthem, and the Racism Song, a track that seeks to separate race from culture and actions from skin color. I'm sure it does a great job of that. All right, guys, just having none of us heard any of these three songs, I think we should all name our favorites.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Ooh. It's a tough choice. The racism song sounds like something off like the Owen Benjamin version of an early Adam Sandler album But it's gonna be the 12 triggers of Christmas for me. Well, you love holiday themed musical parodies Yeah, I love I love just being able to number things off, you know, it just sounds hyper-racist version of like weird owls, the night Santa went crazy. Mmm. Theo, you got a favorite? Look, I go to the soy boy anthem.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Um, because it really, uh, you know, I'm offended but I can't help but laugh, right? Like, because I'm, I am there, you know, I do be drinking my soy milk latte. It explains so much. Yeah, and maybe it's just the subservience that's being ingrained in me from my hormones changing from the soy. Yep. But I hear that and I got he's got me. I gotta agree with Theo. When I slip on my Bose Bluetooth headphones and I don't know if this is the estrogen or the progesterone talking but when that song starts and the first stanza reaches my brain I can only go, what the I can't believe he's allowed to say that.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. Can he say that? How's it get away with today? Not in public anymore, apparently. Well, it's not for much longer. I'll tell you that with the way things are going now in politics. Or on Twitter. No. So... Oh, there's definitely going to be like, he is right now doing 20 tweets at a minute, tode, twee, twee, tttwee, tttttttttwee, tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttha. that, that, th th thi. that, that, I's, I's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. So. th. th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. t thi. thi. thi's th th th thi's thi's th thi's th thi th thi th th thi thi thi thi thi, he is right now doing 20 tweets a minute from a Twitter account called Suspended for Truth. Either that or he's taken it over to Gab, to tell the six people who use Gab all about it. Continuing on, after some backlash from the recent show I just I just love the mental image of like just people from a small American town going down to like the
Starting point is 00:53:32 town's hall to see the the Christmas concert they get this fucking absolute jibrony up there with his keyboard hey everybody after some backlash from the recent show, Benjamin took to YouTube in a one hour, 45-minute video he titled, Shots Fired, the most powerful N-word. Among other complaints, he said a church would not accept his donation of part of the show's proceeds. It was actually St. Bernard's Catholic Elementary School that turned down the money, which Benjamin said totaled about $500. St. Bernard's principal, Ray Dora, said that this is true, but
Starting point is 00:54:12 didn't want to comment any further. Benjamin said he and his wife feel ostracized and will leave Saranac Lake soon. We're getting run out of town, he says. Benjamin's wife is pregnant, and in the video he claimed that his insurance only covers medical care at hospitals in Saranac Lake and Albany. If his family moves and their baby is born elsewhere, it would cost about $20,000, according to Benjamin. Well, if only there was some sort of single-payer solution or perhaps Medicare for All. But you know, we're not really into that. In a profanity-filled quote he said, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he said, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, thin-in-in-in-in-in-in-in, and tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he tho, he said thin-s, he says, he says, thin. tho, tho. tho'-s. tho'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'eanananananananananed thoananed tho. that. In a profanity-filled quote, he said,
Starting point is 00:54:46 people offended by his joke were putting him in a desperate situation. I hate it when I'm just trying to do hours and hours of extremely vile, race-based comedy, and other people just twist that around and put me in a desperate situation. I hate it. In an ad in today's enterprise, Town of Harriet's Town Supervisor Michael Kilroy apologized for the Town Hall hosting Benjamin's show. Quote, we do not and maybe we should look at any presentation before approving the rental of the auditorium, he says. Hindside is always 2020, and again I'm sorry to have to have put our residents through
Starting point is 00:55:30 such a disappointing performance. Disappointing is just such a perfect word there as well. It's not like offensive or ghastly. It's just disappointing. We went there for some laughs, and instead we got this pile of shit. Yeah, it's not like, um, I completely agree. It's not as though he's using this language of like, oh, this wild, wild young man is challenging all of our institutions and everything we hold dear. It's just like, sorry about my idiot son, ruining Thanksgiving. Also, imagine being so bad at your job that you have to leave town. I do like this though this is um this is some classic classic conservative blindness here.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Benjamin said he initially thought the show was a success with the audience. Quote the very people that are now telling me they don't want my donation or you know that I did something wrong, he said in the shots fired video, were hugging me that night, telling me how great it was that I bought the community together. That absolutely happened. That one hundred and ten percent happened. There was definitely someone in that audience who saw a wild-eyed moron on the stage sing the end word for two minutes straight and then said, I have to tell that young man how great
Starting point is 00:56:56 it is that he's bringing the community together. He was especially mad at one woman who he wouldn't name, who was offended and asked to talk to him about it. He said he refused on principle. He said he will not stifle himself because he offended someone. Is that the marketplace of ideas that I keep hearing about? Yeah, I think that's it. That's the one? Closed for Business, it sounds like. What an absolute massive turkey. And like I said, to me, it's really that perfect intersection of like, both, like very, very deliberately, crafting your entire persona and creative output around like attempting to offend people.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And I would go so far as to say like, like I said, you know, true comedy can be offensive and all that sort of stuff, but generally speaking, it is in the service of the joke or the comedy, it only works if the thing that's happening is really funny. Whereas it's, I feel that people like this have it the wrong way around where they go.. th. th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, and the, and the, and I the, and I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thin. And I thin, and I thin, and I thin, and I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thr-a, thr-a, thri. thri. thri. thea. theea, thin. thin. theeea, thin, th works if the thing that's happening is really funny, whereas I feel that people like this have it the wrong way around where they go, ah, I will commit a highly offensive act and then attempt to reverse engineer a joke out of it.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And it does not work. It absolutely does not work. And then when it becomes so poorly received that you are forced to leave your town in humiliation that that of course isn't just that you are as Theo said so bad at your job that you have to move instead it's it's censorship and it's as he says quote battle lines being drawn because I don't want to apologize or censor myself over the quote-unquote n-word," he said. I think it's worth highlighting what the top comment on that story was. Supervisor Kilroy may never understand what transpired, but the audience of tens of thousands around the nation do.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Saranak Lake is losing an asset. The politicians will remain a liability to its residents. And then there's just a bunch of people that actually live there replying being like, he fucking sucked. I don't care, but how is this nice? I like the person that just replied with an asterisk, changing that, correcting that sentence to Saranak Lake is losing an a th. is losing, theirk, th. is losing, theirk, is losing, is losing, is losing, theirk, is losing, is losing, is losing, is losing, theirathat just replied with an asterisk changing that, correcting that sense to Saranak Lake is losing an ass.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Oh, boom! Now that's comedy. Yeah. So once again, folks, pure victory, straight winning for conservative comedy. That concept that I'm yet to actually see any evidence of existing anywhere. Please do right into the show. You can get out of Twitter at Punta Vista. You can write in to Ili at Punta Vista.com. I'm pretty sure we all have email addresses. You keep trying to give me one and I keep refusing it. I've already given you one. I've absolutely already given you one. I don't know how to check it or use it and I don't care to find out. It just comes to your
Starting point is 01:00:10 actual email. So folks you can send an email to Ben at Buenta Vista.com and that's going to go straight through to Ben's personal email. Which you should read out on the show right now. Yeah, so do that, do that folks. Lucy at Punta Vista.com, if you need to harass her personally. Please, please do not. Please do not email me. You can do that. She is single at the moment and looking for pitches. Oh no. Actually, pictures could be fun. Yeah, I think that's not a bad way to do dating. Just pitch yourself. Be like, all right, it doesn't look great, but here's what I can offer you. That's a great idea. Oh, I'm, I completely misheard.
Starting point is 01:00:52 You think I said bitches? No, I thought Lucy was saying like, sending me pictures like photos. Oh, no, don't do that under any circumstances. No, the pictures are to be text. No, no, I was very much like, I never thought I would hear a young woman say, what I'm really missing out on is having men I don't know, send me unselicited photos on the internet. And nothing above shoulder height, please. Yes, yes, that is not at all what I thought. No, if you would like to put together a pitch, if you would like to assemble some kind of media package, maybe a lookbook, look book, nice. Yeah, if
Starting point is 01:01:31 you'd like to get together a whole media presentation to convince Lucy as to why she should entertain the notion of dating you long distance. I live long distance. If you live in my city it's not on. Not having. You can maybe include like some culler-scoo-a- the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe th. Maybe thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that. Maybe that that that that that to that that that that that that that that that that that that that. Maybe th distance. If you live in my city, it's not on. Not having. You can maybe include some color swatches of the horrible shades and tones that your awful angry penis is. That would be great. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yep. Yep. How it clashes with the gross lime-green jeans that you wear. Oh, this is hideously specific. This is very specific. Yeah. So anyway, get all that together. Send it over to Lucy at Bundavista.com.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Or if you would like to, you can shoot me an email at Ili at Bundavista.com. If you have an actual example of conservative comedy that you genuinely think is funny. An example of anything you can point to by somebody. It can't just be like a person who is right-leaning in their private life doing non-political comedy that is funny. That's not going to cut it. It needs to be something that is actually in the realms of conservative comedy. Something funny. Please, for the love of God, someone find me an example.
Starting point is 01:02:49 How do you feel about the magician, what's his name Penn, or pen someone, pen? Pen Gillette? Pen Gillette, the guy that invented the Jill Jet for women to gel off with in the spa. Is he... Look, apart from anything else, I do not believe that that that that. that, someone, someone, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thiii, that, for women to gel off with in the spa. Look, apart from anything else, I do not believe that there is any magician in the world who is not a libertarian. Yeah, he's a proud member of the Cato Institution. Is that what it's called? Remember when they did an episode of Penantellas bullshit where they talked about how second
Starting point is 01:03:23 smoking was fake. So anyway folks if you can find an example please do send it in. Of course you can find us over on Patreon for Bonus Episodes Patreon.com slash Buntavista. We got a we got a crime pass? Hmm. Oh you can you can book out the local towns hall. And... You can say whatever you want. You've got a card blanchier. Go wild. Yeah, go absolutely wild.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And when you do get shut down, if you have to move out of town, present your crime pass to local council. It might not be like transferable between podcasts and like state and local governments and all that kind of thing. But we can work it out after the fact. The whole point of the crime pass that it's universal, all jurisdictions. It's universal in the sense that a go for your crime pass.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Any other little plugs we need to get in? No. No. Oh, actually, this is not. I don't know if I recommended this. Plug your Twitch, Lucy. Plug your Twitch. I can't be fucked.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I haven't been streaming. Because I just, it's just the whole thing that you've got to do, you know? Whole extra kind of content. Yeah. I will do it again soon. But I'm pretty sure everyone who's gonna get on there is already on there. Twitch dot com forward slash Lucy Skywalker. That's right.
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