Boonta Vista - EPISODE 465: Another Dolphins Moment

Episode Date: October 3, 2026

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Miami. Welcome to this episode 465. It's a pretty high number right? I'm Andrew and uh due to several acts of God we're here. We're here with our hands out honestly. We're cupping them both

together. Just me, just bent. We're holding them out towards you. We're proffering them. They're empty because we're asking for a little bit of your sympathy. Yes. A little bit of grace. Yes. We come to you 50% of a podcast introless pants around our ankles. Can we discuss, I mean, are these acts of God?

Because one of them is Lucy is on holiday, which is more of an act of Lucy than anything else. And I would say that the second one is even more an act of a person than going on holiday is. I think I was also looking out the window at how incredibly hard it's raining here and waiting for it to like knock out my internet. huge lightning strike that just happened that was very audible on mic. It was crazy. That was fucking nuts, dude.

And I was just thinking maybe he or she or they up there. Yes. Have said, you know what? Not this week. Don't podcast today. Not this week. Don't podcast today. So at least he's the way.

We knew about that one. We knew about that one. And then we were trying to organize doing a show, slightly off our normal schedule. Theo is presently traveling. He has sent us some videos of whales, what he's seen. Beautiful.

Beautiful. Amazing stuff. Magical experience. I think we can all agree. He has been trying to log on and do the podcast with us for some period of time. And then, Ben, could you share with the listeners why he has, been having trouble. Yeah, so about half an hour after he has been trying and failing to join our video call

so that we can record this podcast, which he made sure to take his equipment with him because he knows Lucy is away and that we try and sort of have like a three-person minimum for every episode we do to make sure that the vibes are good. Half an hour into trying to do this while Andrew and I are just chopping it up because we were very punctual. We were logged in. He has given us this reveal, 9.40 a.m. sorry I don't have a laptop anymore

and I thought this would work from my steam deck yes that makes me a stupid asshole come on man what are we fucking doing here hmm what are we doing podcasting from my steam deck in 26

that's just not a good look would he have plugged his webcam into it as well as a peripheral what was his plan I don't know surely you would have as much like just trying to do it off your phone right yes

yeah well these days what would how things are. Theo is currently in Harvey Bay, my beautiful hometown, whose name he's spelled wrong when he posted it in the chat, despite the fact that he is there and he would have seen it on lots of signs. Did he spell it with an A?

You did, yes. That's the classic little, it's the trick, but then that fucks me up for, now what's the name of the ACT's little... Jervis. Is it Jervis? But I think it's spelled with an A. Is it?

No, I think it's spelled with an E, but I always go to say Jarvis Bay because of Harvey Bay. Beautiful Bay with some bioluminescence that you get a look at every now and then. Yes. You ever spliced around in a bit of bioluminescence, Ben? I absolutely have.

I had a somewhat... Yeah, sometimes you just have a bit of a pang of like sad nostalgia a little bit of thinking about stuff that was commonplace in your childhood that you don't really get to experience now. And at the moment, tying into what Theo is doing, I've been really fixated ongoing whale watching because when I was a kid and I lived on the boat and for however many years we lived in Harvey Bay

and we lived on the coast I was a very I was on the water a lot for a lot of my childhood basically my entire childhood up until my teenage years and so I would just see Wales The boat bound child sees much of the ocean Yes as the axiom goes

I saw so many fucking whales and dolphins and shit all the time and now I never see them and that makes me really sad But also... They never come in the pub. We used to see bioluminescence all the time. And that was amazing.

It's this crazy alien experience to have, especially if you're in like a large boat and you're pushing a lot of water at night. It's like a... You just see so much of it. It's fucking crazy. And now I don't see any of that shit. I'm never on a boat. I want to be back on a boat, but I can't afford a boat.

So what the fuck? Better come visit my parents, I think. I mean, that would be very nice. Hell, I'd buy some boat shoes for that boat. Oh man, come on down. Because they've also had the bioluminescence happen just at their place at the inlet. Like, walk down from the back of their house into the water by their jetty, splashing around, you know? Night swimming deserves a quiet night, you know?

Oh. Man, I just, I have, I don't have any friends with boats, but I do have friends that have the boat friend, you know, that have the boat friend, you know, that have the boat. hook up and I'm like fuck I need to I got to expand my network I got to like I need someone that's like got a boat out at the harbour whatever harbour is closest to Brisbane

Scarborough harbour and then we just get on there on a Saturday afternoon and have a couple of beers and look at the water and see some fucking whales because the whale population at the moment is the biggest it's been in like a hundred years or whatever like since the end of whaling we're at like the highest population

of humpback whales in like several lifetimes. So the whale watching is popping off like crazy, which is the natural state of things, but I'm not part of it. Not benefiting from it in any way. Quee bono and why isn't it me? More whales than ever,

but nothing for Ben? Yeah, how about a little taste to the whale for me? Just, I don't know what, I'm getting really bad for all about it, and I know part of the problem is that It's because I'm looking at fucking Facebook and the algorithm knows that I like looking at videos of whales. So now I'm getting the impression that every other person in the world except me

is just blessed with whales. And then last night, I look at the group chat. Theo's posting photos and videos. Yeah. Now what, maybe I'm just jealous of Theo. Lord, I've seen what you've done for others. Yeah, I've seen what you've done for Theo. And I want that for me.

My parents saw whales like last week. They were with some friends And they were like, up on a hill You could see a bunch of whales down there Splash around. Maybe it was Ellen's parents Because we had both sets of parents visiting with us last week on our

AFL grand final day. And at least one set of them had whales stories to tell. Wales very, very recently. You know? Um, mom and dad also get like dolphins swimming through the inlet there. See, that's fucking when we're in Milford Sound, when we're in beautiful Outtow Rowan New Zealand,

Zealand. There was like a big pot of dolphins going past the boat that we were on. And I had like a weird part of me was being like, you need to tell the people around you that for you, this is normal. You used to see dolphins all the time, so it's not a big deal. You used to see dolphins like basically daily. So actually it's not that big of a deal. I don't actually know that that experience would have been improved for anyone by you turning and saying it's actually not that impressive. Yeah. For me, I've seen bigger pods of dolphins more often. So don't even worry about it. I saw baby. dolphins when I was a teenager often. Just sort of surf in the waves next to the boat because they ride your bow wave.

They hang out with you. Out the middle of the ocean, it's just you and a pot of dolphins. And they're just like, they're kicking back on your bow wave. And they look up at you. You can lie on the bow of the boat and look down at the water. And then they will get pushed just ahead of the front of the boat. And they'll turn on their side so they can look at you. Do you know how fucking cool that shit is?

With their pervert eyes. with a nasty, nasty perfornais. Yeah, you act. You act like it's nothing special. And yet here you are slightly, portably teary. I just want to see some fucking marine life. I used to go snorkeling every day.

You know, and all it cost me was being severely behind at all of my school subjects by the time I went back to land-based school. Telling people how you missed out on some of that stuff. And they're like, Oh, were you homeschooled? Sort of.

I was unsupervised for a couple of years. If home is where the heart is, then maybe. My heart's in the ocean. Yep. Take me back. The ocean. Largely I'd explored, much like space. We're talking about space in Space Watch.

Watching a new David Attenborough documentary about the ocean. A new one. Yeah. And he's so fucking old, dude. He's so old. You know that if they panned out a little, you'd be able to see all the stuff they're using to hold him up. Oh, no. One eye's all crazy, you know. He looks fucking fantastic for a 90-something year old dude. 100-year-old. 100-year-old. He's a clean hundo currently. Clean hondo looks great, communicating wonderfully, you know. but they were talking in this about like the sort of previously held assumptions about how much of the ocean is just kind of nothing like just sandy bottom going forever you know but with with new new technologies they're able to see like how much sort of verticality there is in all these different areas where there's these big big stone columns of stuff that then you know you know have things growing on them and that attracts fish and they're basically all all just like

little high density housing situations for for little little colonies of life you know and he's like there's there's more more life than we ever imagined under the ocean and also you're killing it and I went nope nope and I turned it off I just went through a little cycle then of being like oh holy fuck, that means blue planet three is out. That's fucking insane. I've got the night off tonight. I'm going to get really high and watch Blue Planet 3. And I was like, ah, I can't.

Fuck. Don't, dude. We were watching them with the kids. I think I said this before. We were watching this with the kids. And I started by saying, now, don't you tell me how I'm ruining all of this, David Attenborough. I can't do anything. David, come on.

I'm not, you know, I'm not BP, you know? I'm not the big guys. We need, you know how everybody wishes that they could get customers. edits of pornoes where they took all the sex out. Yes. Just give me the story. Man, I wonder if anyone's, is anyone doing that? It's got to be.

Okay. That's, uh, what would you even serve for? And you edit out all the fucking, unless there's any like lines of dialogue that are pertinent to the story, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but you edit really closely in a tight close up on the face for a couple of those lines. and then you're out of there, you know? I just, I know he's doing important work.

I'm like, I'm so, I'm so acutely aware of the fact that this is his life's cause and this is the, like, the most watched vehicle he could possibly have to try and hammer home the galling reality of what we've done to the world. But brother, come on, man. I also, I also can't be, like, going full duma mode in front of my children. I can't. Yes. I can't be standing up in the living room, pointing at the TV and saying,

it's a tiny number of mega corporations that are responsible for all this. I can't stop the super trawlers, Mr. Attenborough. I can't stop the super trawlers. I may be a father to some young girls, but I'm actually powerless in the world. Your children, I want to hear that. No. You know, let him find out later how powerless I truly am. What's the call to action?

Like with these documentaries where he's like, climate change and you go, what is he, because he's not like, I'm sure he's not one of those, uh, you know, individual action like just use paper straws type guys.

He's thinking big a picture. He's a big picture guy. Is he hoping that like one in every 15,000 viewers is someone who is actively harming the planet at like a corporate level and that they're going to change? Or, Is he hoping that he's going to make all of us sad enough that we'll kill those guys? He's hoping every 15th viewer is Digger from the movie Digger. I'm really excited to see Digger.

And all I've seen is people talking about how stupid it looks. And I don't fucking understand. It looks gorgeous. Looks like a, what's his name? That Swedish director. Oh, I just almost said Sven Olaf and that is not even close. He does the really, he's a movie. movies look like that. They're real deep focus. They look

very staged and they have a very muted color palette. Roy Anderson. It looks like a fucking in that style. It looks stylized. It looks nuts. I'm so, I'm generally so excited about any movie that looks like it looks the way it looks very deliberately. Yep. You know? Someone has to put a whole bunch of thought and effort and time

into that approach. And yeah, even if even if 100% of the thing doesn't land for you, I just like something where someone is actually trying to do and say something. Make it look a certain way, you know? Absolutely. No, I am also excited for that one. Plus,

it has the automatic seal of approval, which is like 50% of people seem to fucking hate it. Yeah. Which means it's going to be interesting to me. Yeah, fake-ass haters hate it. That means I'm going to love it because I'm a lover. I don't like it. Unless I don't like it, in which case all the people who love it are wrong.

It's a war between lovers and haters this planet we're on. We love the ocean. The guys Big Oil hate the ocean. We're at war with them. People love the look of the digger trailer. That's us. People hate the look of the digger trailer.

We hate them. That's them. We hate the haters. But yes, to your point, it's a call to action. Not clear to me. Often because I turn it off because I'm getting upset.

But I don't know if it's like, right to your congressman. I think we've established that one doesn't do anything. Yeah, is it calling your local representative? Am I meant to call up my like local Greens MP? And they'll be like, yeah, I know. I know what they've done to the coral reefs.

I need to put it back on and watch to the end for when he holds up a copy of how to blow up a pipeline. See, this is, if he was doing that, I'd be like, yeah, energize me. Like, get me jazzed up to like kill a guy. If he was like some incredibly selfish profit-driven people must die so that the planet, and they thrive. Yeah. I'd be 100% on board. I would absolutely be sending money to that organization.

Like, yeah, maybe that's the thing that kind of pisses me off about it. Is that it... The World Wildlife Foundation cold calls you and they say, we will smite your enemies. I think that's a good promise. That's what I want. Because you can't just say, this is bad and it's because of us,

without being like, well, what's the root cause of us doing it? And what can you change? The average person very much cares that like the ecosystems are all collapsing because of what we've done. It's not like raising awareness is enough. We've also established that like individual consumer choice ain't doing shit because we're all, you know, buying our fucking pole court tuna. But also it's very clear that. like the majority of the planet is not thinking at all about where like seafood comes from specifically.

Oh, the sea. I think it comes to the sea. I mean, they really managed to like, I think seafood, the seafood industry did a really good job for a while there. It's being like, yeah, red meat. Oh, it's so terrible for the environment. That's why we've got good old fish, good old sustainable fish. Come on over to the fish shop. It's great over here until everyone caught on that it's fucking nasty.

and horrible and ruining the goddamn oceans. But they had a good ride. They got away with it for a little while. Not anymore. We're on to them now. The ocean is a kind of space. The ocean's a kind of space. That's right.

This is a press release for the University of Copenhagen. Blood tests reveal why astronauts get constipated in space. Didn't know they did? Yeah. So this was my first takeaway from this headline. It was like, is it common knowledge that astronauts get constipated? The person reporting this, they could have got two stories out of this.

First one. That's true. Yeah, first one. Astronauts all constipated. Yeah. Second story next day, once it's in the zeitgeist, this is why? You could have been the first person with the exclusive answer to that question. God damn, that's, yeah.

You should be the editor at the University of Copenhagen or whatever. So I've watched like a lot of videos of astronauts on the ISS giving tours of the ISS because if you're high, you're like, holy fuck, space is real. But that is the thought that dominates my mind. Anytime I watch good quality footage of people on the space station or on like, we have some really good footage from the space shuttle missions, where I know in some abstract way, that like space is out there but I'm never really considering that like there are actually people up there right now and then you watch the footage

you're like no this isn't just a thing they're made up for movies you can actually go to outer space zero gravity is real but the other similarity that space and the ocean have is that if I'm high and watching things about somebody

actually in the depths of one of those areas I get very scared oh I didn't know that even the space ones like if they're just on the space station they're kicking around you get the willies no like spacewalk type stuff on the outside of a craft i mean it's already it's already terrifying enough you know yeah that that gets me i don't like spacewalks actually because at the moment the camera pans around and it's just like back of astronaut and the void of space i feel like i was watching the documentary that's about apollo 13

The one that... Oh no, sorry, Apollo 11... Documentary with Tom Hanks. There's a documentary from 2019, which I think you might have put me on to, Andrew. Apollo 11, which is just footage of the Apollo 11 mission with no narration, no anything. It's just really, really high quality,

like 70-mill footage from start to finish of the Apollo 11 mission. And there were some shots of them doing spacewalks where they didn't appear to be tethered to anything. and watching that, just the thought of like, what if you just accidentally, like, your leg is itchy and you accidentally kind of kick it out and then you kick yourself into fucking space. Isn't there a whole movie about that called Gravity?

I didn't watch it sound too scary. Yeah, me too. Isn't that Alejandro Inuit, the Digger guy? I think so. It all comes back to Diga. it all comes back to Tika. We got paid Quora.

Oh man, that was racist. It's Alfonso Quaron. Oh no. I did recently watch a I recently watched a kind of sci-fi movie called Underwater. Yeah, I fucking loved underwater.

It's alien underwater with an extremely funny twist that they tried to leave out of the ads entirely. but you kind of, it doesn't sound like a worthwhile movie unless you kind of know what the twist is. There's something big down there. Is it, can we, all right, if you don't want to hear a spoiler for the movie underwater and you're just going to go in completely blind, press the 30 seconds forward button on your podcast player now. They put Kathulhu in a movie but didn't market it in any way that it was like a Kathulian

horror movie. And it works really well. It works so well. And they have all these little kind of Easter eggs. It would have ruined it. Would have ruined it if it was in the market. Yeah. I mean, it would have been some really Reddit feeling stuff, I think, if they had

mentioned that. But there's all these little Easter eggs at the start of the movie that are like on screen for like two seconds that kind of give up wide a picture of maybe why this is happening. and then it's never discussed and that is awesome. Perfect way to do it. And plus she looks great.

She looks fucking great for the whole fucking movie. She looks great and plus there's little environmental thing there too where they're like, I don't think we're actually meant to be down here doing this shit. Yeah. Yeah, definitely some very the claustrophobia-inducing stuff in there.

So that's what I'm talking about when they So the broad plot of this movie is that they're on an extremely deep sea mining base kind of thing. So it's kind of semi-futuristic in that sense. Very, very obvious production design nods to alien. It feels extremely like a Wayland-Utani type company that they're working for. I mean, their dedication to making it alien underwater is putting her in the same small underpants. Like, they're just like, this is, it's alien.

And we all agree with doing that. Do it in more movies. Yes. Let's see John C. Riley and the little panties that Sigourney Weaver wears an alien. Finally. But yeah, like very, I really enjoyed like the production design and all that stuff. But as, as their base is compromised, they're like, we have to get into. these suits and walk somewhere that's like a couple of kilometers away underwater.

And so it's very much to that whole bit to me is psychologically equivalent to doing a spacewalk. Yeah. Because it's just like we are outside and untethered in this environment where any compromise of the environment or our suits or anything is just instant death for us. And I don't like that. That's upsetting to me. Terrible reviews.

Lovers and haters. Also, fucking T.J. Miller is in it, which, you know, not great. But you can just sort of blank him out. But this is the kind of movie we need, folks. We need, like, mid-budget, 90-minute long, sci-fi movies that aren't trying to change the whole world. You know, it's okay to just be a film that at the end of the 90 minutes, you say, that was cool. Yep. Big swings.

Yep. Mid-budget, big swings. And have fun while you're doing it. Have a bit of fun. we can tell when we're watching. Sometimes I'm watching a movie and I'm like, no one here's enjoying this, including me. Yeah, we watched the wrong girls the other night.

That are the sort of stoner comedy with Alia Shorke and Christian Stewart. And like, it has an unbelievably low joke density for the movie that it is. It's like... Something that is ostensibly a comedy. Yeah, it's like there's probably a joke like every two minutes. There is a few bits in it that are unbelievably funny, but it is definitely saved by the fact that you're like, oh,

these people all love hanging out with each other. You, like, it seems like a very low effort movie where everyone had a nice time. And I'm like, great. Good on, you guys.

Sounds like a very nice time. It's really, it's, I think that aspect of filmmaking is a real, like, it's a real gamble because that, that specific aspect of something, the feeling of, and this is what I get from like

a lot of like 1970s, 1980s horror movies, B movies and stuff, is sometimes you're watching something that's just like, clearly not good. But there is just a palpable sense of a group of people got together and had fun making this thing. Yeah.

And they're not taking themselves too seriously or the movie too seriously. I watched neon maniacs. Oh shit. a movie that we were talking about and I could not figure out who the guy was. Oh, yeah. What's his fucking name? The billionaire that was in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't figure it out. Gene Bicknell, our good friend, Gene Bicknell. Gene Bicknell, thank you. And so I was, I was watching that and like, it's not, it's not especially good or anything, but the costumes on all of the like the makeup and the costumes and everything on all of the sort of zombieish bad guys all very cool it's from 1986 and there's lots of scenes that are like battle of the bands type type thing going on that's an easy way to pat out a couple of minutes with a whole bunch of teenagers and everything and everybody's

fucking clothes and makeup and hair are fantastic and they just kind of seem like they haven't fun but much like so many other aspects of like what it is that makes us enjoy things that is some really really intangible sense of authenticity where it's not about is the movie itself as a finished product really good or is it super well written or do I feel like the soul of an artist is coming through here it's some very separate intangible thing of I get the feeling everybody who was having a good time like evil dead movies you know like the original

the OG evil dead movies you're like this is a bunch of university aged people out in the woods having a good time making something wet and sticky yeah and uh that goes a long way with me you know have a bit of fun so I want to watch

one of the greatest sort of terrible movies all time Jim Carter you get a real sets behind that that like everyone was just like hey hey What if we tried putting this in there? What if we put one of those like pommel horses in the middle of the town square so he could do his Jim Carter at the insane townspeople? I thought you were saying Jim, Jim Carter.

Like the actor. Oh, Jim Carter. Oh, no, Jim Carter. You've seen Jim Carter, right? Yes. Oh, what a fucking picture. There's a lot of scenes like that in older movies where someone has to like, someone who maybe has some sort of gymnastic ability.

has to do something and they leap onto like what is very visibly a straight pole behind a tree branch parallel bars what fucking Jurassic Park 2 the ending of Jurassic Park 2 when George and I started dating I remember we were watching it and I was like this is the stupidest scene of all time

and George was just like what do you mean? This is so fucking cool it got me to do gymnastics as a kid and I fucking loved it I thought it was awesome I was like oh I guess it is pretty cool that she uses gymnastics to beat the velociraptors. My parents have been pressing me to do gymnastics for a while now, and I couldn't really come up with a reason why. But now that I know, it could be solving problems for me in the future.

Yeah, I bet if you were like a gymnast, you wait your whole life to see a set of parallel bars and have a situation that requires you use them. I've got this. every gymnast you know when they enter a bar with their family they're immediately looking around and they're checking where's something that could be used as a pommel horse whereas are there any bars up close to the ceiling but not too high that i could get a full rotation going yeah just in case a bank robber comes in here and somebody has to do a do a full turnout and kick the gun out of his hand you know

speaking of the wrong girls it has one of the tropes in movies that i've just realized now that i fucking hate. You know how sometimes in movies they're like one of the characters doesn't really enjoy their lives and it shows them at the start of the movie sort of doing a hobby that they like and then the very easy button on last three minutes

of the movie happy ending to tack on is to show that they've made a small business out of that hobby. Something about that strikes me is so profoundly condescending to just life in general like oh they didn't realize that they could just do the thing

that they were good at as a job. It's like life just kind of doesn't work out that way a lot of the times. Like a lot of the obstacles to someone doing their hobby as a job is because it's hard to do that oftentimes. Well, and also a lot of the time the thing that you do for your hobby is not actually something that people will trade you enough money for

for you to live your life. You know, comfortable. There's no way you get paid for that. No. Hey, I like 3D printing stuff. Oh, man. You know? There's like, there's so many businesses I've seen that, like, definitely they're not

someone's day job or whatever where they just sort of sell stuff they've 3D printed based on STLs that they get online, like that they've paid for or free or whatever. So they're not sculpting anything themselves. Where a business where the only service you provide is that you are, own the equipment is kind of insane to me. Like, I know you've got to be good at using it and stuff, and there's, there's complications around that. It's not that easy.

But, like, if you're not designing your own stuff, if you're just going to, like, the local markets with a table full of 3D printed other people's stuff, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? What are you adding to the equation here? Yeah. I had to get a replacement part for my coffee machine. recently right and I couldn't find uh I couldn't find one being sold in Australia

anywhere and then I was like okay I'll I'll order something from Amazon despite not loving ordering stuff from Amazon I go and look and it's like you can get this it's a it's a little plastic bucket for the coffee pods from my espresso virtuo machine to fall into inside the machine and then you take it out you dump it out but a friend of ours had stayed with us house sitting when we were away and she had been emptying the pods and just thrown out the entire middle section of this thing. There's this like bucket inside another sort of little brace. I don't really,

I don't understand the mechanisms of the pod things at all. I used the one in my fucking hotel room in Melbourne so wrong, you wouldn't fucking believe it. I don't get it. I don't understand. But naked the whole time. That's right. Fully nude.

Very confused. Now this is like, it's like a little frame that sort of slides into the side of the machine so that it's just smooth on the side. you slide it out there is another sort of tall bucket sitting inside that frame and it has perforations

in the bottom so that any stray drips can come out you can then lift that whole thing out tip all the pods out and then put it back in the thing slide it in so the inside section of this is gone because my friend has inadvertently thrown it out

trying to order another one and off Amazon it's like the only place that's selling these is in America and it'll cost you like 50 something dollars for this just piece of plastic by the time it gets to you. That's fucking insane. And I go, fuck it. And I order it. And days later, Amazon, I go to look at the order and Amazon says, we have declared this undeliverable. If you have not received a refund in several weeks, let us know. Amazing. And I said, great. That's the perfect customer experience. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff Bozos. Thank you for sending me notifications that I have

place the order that the order has been shipped and then we're done with notifications after that point. We're not telling, there's no notifications for you will never receive this product. Yeah. Anyway, so, so I'm trying to find other places to buy it. One of them is a local place that does 3D printing of replacement parts and I go, and I'm looking at their website and this person says, oh, when I first started this business, I just had a 3D. printer and I would print little spare parts for people's stuff. Now our business has exploded and we have a room with like 30 3D printers going in at 24 hours a day. And I'm like, what are we doing here? How are we reverse engineering a factory? There was a factory that made these parts

and they've made the parts hard to get. And now there's someone who's just buying so many 3D printers that are running 24 hours a day so they can punch out these specific little spare parts. What are we doing? Yeah, like if you're making the same parts, wouldn't you be like a million times more efficient to just set yourself up to like injection mold plastic or whatever to just the like the four shapes of thing that you're making? That seems like that's maybe a bubble that's going to burst at some point. Yeah, it's no good.

And then I phone an espresso and said, I'm trying to find a part for this thing. And they said, yeah, we've got some in a warehouse. We'll send it for you. it'll be $3. Well, that's, that's exactly the way that it should work. That's the world that we should be living in where they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, we have heaps of those because we make them. So we have, we have a ton of the extra bits and bobs.

Actually, not to brag, but they said that'll be $14, $4 for the part, $10 for postage. And then she looked at my profile. She said, I'm so sorry, sir. Due to your ambassador status, it'll be free shipping. What do you mean? And with the discount that you get, it'll be. $3.75. Ambassador status.

Yes. Because of how many pods you've bought? That means that you have bought more than 1,000 espresso pods on your account. That is horrible. Very happy for you, Ambassador. God damn. I just got a V-60.

You just sort of grind up the coffee and you put in a little paper filter that you just dump it in there. I'm back to making coal brew. I got some nice single origin beans in my cold brew at the moment. hell yeah dude but it's got to be warm enough a couple of

solvies all through winter you know no constipation is a familiar problem for astronauts but scientists have not fully understood

why spending time in space can disrupt normal digestion again we're just starting from a level of assumed knowledge about astronaut gut health

that I didn't have oh way back where we started the first of the digressions I've watched a lot of videos the ISS and they talk about the toilet a lot.

Like every tour, they're like, this is the toilet, this is the tube that sucks the stuff out. This is the wall of different toilet papers based on people's different personal preferences. No one has been like, by the way, we're all backed up. We are all struggling right now.

This is the toilet that I cannot use. I wish I could use. Oh, every day I look at that toilet. I think, come on. Yeah, there's a chunk of in every one of those episodes of an astronaut wistfully gazing at the toilet. Breaking off mid-sentence gazing at the toilet, they're like, come on, man. Sorry, sorry, what was I saying?

I just imagining something really awesome happening to me. New research from the University of Copenhagen conducted in collaboration with NASA offers a possible explanation. Scientists analyze blood samples from 52 astronauts who spent months, aboard the International Space Station and found signs that the digestive system begins changing relatively soon after astronauts leave Earth. Quote, we see changes in astronauts' blood samples that indicate that the gut bacteria begin to ferment protein to a greater extent than usual within weeks after the astronauts

arrive in space, and this change continues until they are back on Earth, says joint first author and associate professor at the Department of Nutrition Exercise and Sports at Georgia La Barbera. Protein protein fermentation occurs when bacteria and the intestines begin

breaking down protein rather than fiber because available dietary fiber has already been used. The process is not

unique to astronauts and can also occur in people at Earth. Thank God. So we're not evolving differently up there.

I mean, that's also a nice thing that you can tell yourself if you ever have that you got that real bad constipation

that keeps you up at night. I'm just like I'm just like the astronauts. I'm just like the astronauts. like an astronaut from NASA. Oh, my jamie hurts. The results could matter beyond digestion

because changes in the gut can influence other parts of the body, including the brain. Yeah, I'll say. It makes me crazy effects. Being really constipated is a really bad time. Yeah, I don't want to get too gross or too personal on this podcast,

but I think it's like constipation sounds funny. Until it happens to you. Until it is a nightmare. It's like a Hellraiser-style torture. I think it's also like there's a difference between sort of, I don't know, your digestion being a bit slow. Feeling a little backed up for a few days. I think genuine, like either I've been to hospital and given some morphine for several days kind of constipation.

genuine constipation I think the few times that I have experienced it you absolutely have the sensation of like my body is poisoning me I feel like I am dying inside yes it's no good capital C constipation and that's just one of the reasons

I won't be going to space well maybe they're going to solve it now maybe we'll solve that problem is it just eat more fiber is it just give give them more fiber to digest before before we start cranking through the protein? Yeah, it's fiber and prebiotics, I think, is the answer.

Quote, we know that products of protein fermentation are associated with negative health consequences such as kidney damage, potential effects on mood or reduced ability to focus, among others, says, Lars Ova-Dragsted, senior author of the study and professor at the Department of Nutrition, Exercise and Sports. I've, you know how

people are talking these days about how there's a link between your gut biome and your mental health. Heard about this. There's like connections between depression and whatever. That is something that I know

only at the level that I have just described. I have the headline. I have nothing else. I feel like I've only heard people say there's a link and then no further detail into what the link is

or why or how profound it is. But I am low key in my first. fermentation era right now, so I think my gut biome has never been looking better. You are Loki? I am Loki in my fermentation era. That's right. Like from Marbles.

Hey, have you seen there's going to be another Marbles movie coming out? Another Marbles doomsday? Yeah, Marbles, Doomsday. It's a new MCU movie and it's nuts. I saw the trailer for it, actually. We went to see Resident Evil with some friends, which I loved. I loved. I would give it a real hard recommend if you enjoy.

horror movies if you enjoy going I don't but I do enjoy well if Maddie's holding my hand I don't mind it so much yes I would like to see the new Resident Evil also very funny lots of lots of laughs from me during that movie like Austin Abrams great

great special effects great gross stuff very fun but the trailers beforehand there was a trailer for the new Marvel movie and like I'm a person who watched all of them. I did my due diligence like up to Civil War. Whatever the last one was. What was the fucking Endgame?

Avengers Endgame when they said, here is the natural concluding point of 10 years worth of plot we've been building up. And everybody went, wow, thanks for that. And I said, oh no, we're not done. Movies about pirates. Oh, we're not done. And yeah, like I was, I was, truly struck by an incredibly profound sense of who cares who cares like we are not the first

to make this observation but how do you spend like you know 15 years or whatever building up to being like this is the biggest bad guy there ever will be we've brought everyone from all of the movies into this we killed off a couple of the key players we had a fucking 20 minute ending to the movie of trying to make you cry as much as possible uh that's it we're done and being like, well, what if there was one of the least spooky villains from Marvel history and he's somehow a bigger deal than the previous guy, they'll almost kill 50% of all living people or whatever. Like, what is the fucking point?

I think in the interest of getting a second story, and I'm going to skip everything else in the rest of this article, it's time for Europe Watch. This comes to us from the Helsinki Times. rare Mooman mug sells for more than 46,000 euros. Nice. So you know about the Moomans? Familiar with the Moomans?

In classic media, Spider-Man is known to the franchise, Le Homaragné. Now, that's just good stuff. The Moomans, we all want to steam them for a while, then slice them up and eat them. They do look like their cross-section would just be sort of homogenous sandwich meat. Delectable. Yeah. like debonning a movement and then putting it on the slicer at the deli? I don't think you'd have to debone them.

I think they're just, they're sort of gelatinous all the way through. They seem like kind of boneless. Yeah. I mean, they got fingers. I guess you need something. I hope they're not like mainly full of like knuckle, you know?

Oh, yeah, that'd be a shame. That'd be no good at all. Yeah. You don't have to debone them, but you got to cook them so long to break down, you know, It's just cartilage.

They're just chock full of cartilage. This is mostly cartilage. Rib cage that's all cartilage, you know. So they're Finnish, the Moomans, and the Finns love them. They're crazy about the movements. Other people worldwide, they also love the movements. Very popular. It's kind of European Hello Kitty.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair to say. European San Rio universe. Yeah. I don't really I don't know much about the Moomans I don't know much about their lives but I am aware of them because they have a pretty big

sort of cultural cultural footprint Don't know much about Moomans An exceptionally rare Mooman mug has sold for 46,000 and 23 euros setting what is believed to be a new world record for the highest price ever paid for a single Mooman mug

Now can I can I give a little bit of unsolicited advice to this person who bought this mug. I think they'd love that. Yeah. Be really careful that you don't have a really like stupefying realisation while you're holding your special mug. 100% yes.

Because you're going to have time during the slow motion cup, during the slow motion shot of the mug falling to the floor, you're going to have time to look at it. and go, Oh, that was 46,023 euros. My rare Moomin' Mug. Now, Andrew,

let's calibrate this. So I've, we're both having a cup of coffee at the moment because it's the morning. And we, I think between the two of us right now, we're sort of comprising both ends of the spectrum of mug prices,

of everyday mug use. I've got what I believe to be a like, it's from an up shop, But, you know, it's sort of 70s ceramic kind of mug that I would have paid, I think, at most, a dollar 54. You're at the higher end of the mug spectrum with your beloved Le Cruce. I have an orange Le Cruze Stoneware mug, which I paid nothing for. Oh, that's pretty good. Because a listener of the Boney Island Whitefish sent it to me as a gift.

That's fucking insane. How much do they cost normally? Just to give us a... 30 Australian dollars from Le Cruzé. See, that's a lot of money. That's an expensive money. Oh, no, yes. I am...

I am looking at the Australian website, lecruise.com.com. com. But when you go to select the size, you get 0.35 litres of the size. Don't do that. Don't get European on me in there. That's far too European.

Just say 350 mil. We know. Or do that other weird European thing of giving the volume in centa liters? Oh, hit me with a... Sender liters. If you want me to feel really European, hit me with the center liters. I don't know why that's so charming.

It's such a funny thing to do. And like, it kind of makes sense. It's a reasonable unit to use, but like, we don't, we use the centiliter, the cubic centimeter, mostly just for engine displacement and for fluid that goes into your body via, via an IV drip, I guess. Actually, no, that you wouldn't, we wouldn't do that in Australia at all, would we? give me 10 CCs or whatever has got to be. That's surely like fucked up American medicalism or something, right? Yeah, yeah.

We're doing milliliters and milligrams and micrograms. Yeah, that kind of stuff, right? No, never really thought about that. The diving with shells mug was sold by Finnish Moomin collectible specialist Mubimukit Rahaksi. Sorry about the pronunciation on that to our two Finnish listeners. According to the company, five bidders offered more than 40,000 Euro. in a closed auction held in late 2025 with the transaction completed in April this year.

You're telling me that there was a spectrum of bids from starting at 40,001 euros and topping out at 40,023. Not much in it, really? Yeah, really came down to the wire on that one. Oh, sorry, this is 40,000 to, it's 46,023. So that's a fair bit of time for people's eBay snipers to get to work on that one.

Honda, Honda, Honda, Honda. And when we all used to be sitting around sniping each other on eBay? I bought my first car on eBay. Really? Tell that to a kid now,

you'd sound fucking insane. What are you mean? The buyer is a longtime movement collector from a Nordic country who was asked to remain anonymous. Now, two reasons you might want this. You don't want to paint a target on your back in that country. Pay the target on your back. That's what I'm thinking.

It's either shame. that you spent 46,023 euros on a single mug or you don't want to get fucking robbed by the other by like the other movement enthusiasts that missed out on getting it.

What's the gun ownership like over there? I think it's actually relatively high. I think they might be one of those countries with a very strong gun hunting culture. Yeah, okay. Just like the Canadians, you know? Yeah. They, you know, they have them.

they're just not using them for bad stuff I think they have like the second highest gun ownership per capita in Europe from looking at the first image that's come up in my search results okay yeah okay and that's as much real information as we need yeah that's right

interesting maybe they're not okay but the point is they're relatively high on the context of Europe the fins are strapped and they're unreasoned for Moomans. The buyer was a long-time movement collector and an existing customer

of Moomimur Kidra Huxi according to the company's CEO Rasmus Rantanin. The Mugg's extraordinary value comes largely from its scarcity. I don't want to get into the like

the semiotics or whatever of value. I would say its extraordinary price came from its scarcity. Yes. what is the intrinsic value of a mug? To me, it's its ability to hold a liquid and to get it to hold its temperature for a reasonable amount of time.

And the amount of money that I value that for, I value that around, let's say, $5. Sometimes less, sometimes more. That's my ballpark value I place on the service that that object can provide to me. I don't think I would value that $46,000 euros in more or less any context. I just wish not everything had to be a commodity of some kind. Yes, especially not the Moomans. Not the beautiful sweet Moomans.

They've already taken my Pokemon's and now my Moomans. So apparently this is a test mug and there's like 10 of them. There's 10 of these in the world and that's why this is apparently worth 46,000 euros. both of us collect records you know yeah oh man we i just had a thing happened to be where i have two records in my collection that are expensive and the only reason i have them is because i really wanted them on vital so i could like listen to them home and playing them in dj sets and stuff like and they were just they've been out of print for you know 10 20 years or whatever and i was like fuck it. I was just going to treat myself.

Both times that I did it, they were in weeks that I had just had to work a couple of extra days at the bar to cover for people. And I was like, I'm tired. I have some extra money. I'm going to spend it on something stupid. You don't have to be too specific here, but I would love to hear your idea of expensive in this context. One of them was like 180 bucks. The other was like 200. which crazy amount of money to spend on a single record.

Both of those records have now since been reissued. Like they were out of print for, so one of them was like one of boards of Canada's first EP's high scores. Just got announced this week that it's been reissued. The reissue looks beautiful and it's so cheap now. The other one was the first or, the first Bowery Electric album got reissued. And the reissue also comes with like the deep.

the D side of it is their first EP that was like basically unreleased had never previously been on vital so this was better than the first pressing that I got and a quarter if not a fifth of the price and my gut reaction both times it happened was like oh stupid

re-released now all these other people get to get it that I was like oh my God that is the dumbest fucking thought I have ever had like great there are so many albums that I'm not willing to spend a couple hundred dollars to get but we'd love to just have I've been waiting like hum had an album get reissued recently that I desperately wanted and it was exactly when I was looking to buy it and then I had a look what the prices were before the reissue came out and they were just completely untenable obviously it's great don't create this scarcity if there's demand for it just make them everyone could have them but I still did have a little pang of like My thing was rare and now it's not as rare. Yeah. In one of the, like, vinyl groups that I'm in on Facebook, that's so embarrassing. A bunch of people, the moment the reissue was announced of high scores, all started posting photos of their, like, first press.

It wants to be like, whoa, I already had it. So, you know. And I saw a reflection of myself in that. It was the dolphins all over again. I had another dolphins moment. Some other prick is seeing a dolphin. right now. Yeah.

I've seen them, though. I've seen them. I've seen them. I've seen them heaps. Don't, you can't have, the dolphins are for everyone.

You want more people to see the dolphins, okay? This is why I like autistically managing my discogs collection. Like, so I'm pulling out

the record and finding the runout stamp and plugging it in and figuring out like which actual release of this thing do I have. Not because it's like, I want to know if it's like rarer or whatever, I think I'd get a genuine enjoyment

because I buy a lot more like vintage stuff than you do, I think generally speaking, right? And I do just enjoy either looking at a thing and going, oh, this is like an Australian pressing of this album from the 70s or whatever. And it's like not particularly common in comparison to how many copies of it were sold around the rest of the world. Or sometimes you might be plugging something in and go, oh, this was like a Japanese pressing of this thing, you know,

a thing that was like issued in Japan or France or something. And I am just tickled by the idea of like, this thing was created, you know, 50 years ago, this object and it's traveled through time and to different parts of the world and it's just ended up in my house. With moi? Avec more?

With me enjoying it, you know, and there's, and that has nothing to do with anyone else. It has nothing to do with like anyone else's conception of how scarce is this thing, how valuable is it, or whatever. It is nice on some level to plug all of your stuff into discogs and it says, hey, this thing has sold for a lowest price of X, a highest price of X and a median price of X. And then it adds all those things together and says your entire collection is worth something in this. range. And that's nice to have a picture of. I never want to see that number ever. I never want to even know how many digits that number is. I don't want to see the number.

I don't want to have a feeling for the number. Hey, I think this was definitely an episode of the podcast, Boutta Vista. And I think I'm absolutely certain because I'm running late for work currently. Nice. Thank you so much for joining us. Just me and Andrew. Doesn't happen off. It's just lost.

Sorry. Just two boys chatting about Digger for our. 10 minutes. I'm gonna go and see Digger. I'm gonna go and see Digger. I got Digger fever. The only cure is going to see the movie Digger. Now in theaters.

I think. I hope. Just like the poster says, get dog. Get Doug. We'll speak to you with a bonus episode. Hopefully patreon.com slash put a vista. Bye. Bye-bye.