Boonta Vista - EPISODE 57: Across The Pond with Ed Zitron

Episode Date: July 23, 2018

This week Andrew, Lucy and Theo are joined by PR mastermind Ed Zitron to figure out how Elon Musk's week could've gone better. We're also discussing Facebook's attempt to both-sides Holocaust denial, and taking letters for Ed! Please follow Ed on Twitter: http://twitter.com/edzitron You can find Funranium Labs' Black Blood Of The Earth here: https://shop.funraniumlabs.com/brands/BBotE.html Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Buntavista episode 57. I'm almost 100% sure it's episode 57. I'm Andrew. I'm here with Lucy. Hi. Hi Lucy, how are you? Hi, Lucy. How are you? Hi, good. How are you? How are you? I'm good. I'm not even doing a setup this week. I'm not even doing a thing. I'm not even doing a scenario. Wow. We also got Theo. Hi Theo. Hello. And we're joined by a guest for the first time in a little while. We are joined by the one lonely Ed Zitron. Hello. Thank you for saying my name correctly too. I've been clinching The past few seconds waiting to... I'm almost curious about how one gets it wrong. Zitron, Zetron is a favorite, Zetron, I don't fucking get it. There's an eye. Zetroen. Very rarely. I got Zetron once. That was just fucking, just fucking lazy at that point.

Well, I always, um, I always spell my name out for people, like on the phone, my last name, which is law. And I spell that because people just get it, get it wrong constantly. I don't know if it's an Australian accent thing. I always have to say L.A otherwise people go into like L-O-R-E, people think I'm saying long or loan, anything but... Literally the words you're trying to say. Just a three-letter word. Just a three-letter word.

So Ed, Ed is in PR. Public relations. And somebody's been having a great week of public relations and that is someone we were talking about last week, a friend of the show, Elon Musk. My close personal friend. Strange Libertarian unit, Elon Musk, or whatever whatever political alignment he's giving himself this week on Twitter. I don't know. It was libertarian and socialist.

He's a socialist. But he doesn't believe in socialism or anything that's vaguely socialist. Yeah, it's confused by that one. It's like being Jewish by race but not, not actually. Yeah, exactly. He didn't choose the socialist life. He chose him. He just thinks that free market solutions are the best way to get socialized health care.

Yeah. Yeah. Assigned socialist at birth. Oh, nice. Is that an Australian thing. Oh no. Is that an Australian thing? Oh no, that's a, that's a gender thing. Oh, oh. Problematic, Andrew. Oh, oh.

Good nickname. Yakes. Problematic Andrew. Good start. I'm so excited to have Ed on. Like, we, to hear all about like the quaint like cultural things in America that are going on like I mean you were just saying off pod Ed that you don't really understand what the big hullabaloo

about the mascot for the Cleveland Indians is. Yeah. I mean would I have gone with Bertie the racist first choice? Probably not. But, more of thought about it, you know what? He is indicative of the culture of Ohio. Hmm. Yeah, that's fair. And plus, you know, once something's been the same for a while, you can't really change. You can't change things.

You can't just change the thing. The thing about the 10 commandments. Yeah. set in stone. Yeah, yeah. Little thing with the Ten Commandments. Yeah, that's what I thought. QED. No amendments to the Ten Commandments. So yeah, we were talking about Elon last week in the context of the Thai cave rescue, which took place, there was a bit of a bit of particularly psychotic commentary going on about that in Australia, which we covered at the time. But we also very helpfully recorded right before Elon started getting really mad and calling people Pido's online. Which I guess... It's so fucking funny. It's so funny. I was so funny. I was so, I just, I can't, it's just so fucking stupid.

Well, we already had, we already had the whole thing of like, why, why will this, you know, tech billionaire not stop replying to people on Twitter? That was already an issue. Yeah. Like, he just wouldn't stop just getting down in the muck and trying to defend himself to any random person, which was already ridiculous. It was already like, um, already like Notch the Minecraft guy, where it's like, he got billions of dollars, you're dating Amber Hurd and Grums and everything. Wait, oh, thought for a second you were going to say that Amber Herd was dating Notch. Same, I was very confused a second you were going to say that Amber Heard was dating Notch.

Same, I was very confused. That would have been fucking hilarious. That would have, that would have made my year. Is the Amberhead ditches Johnny Depp, was it? Yes, yes. Dates notch. And moves up a notch. Ugh.

Just as racist. 30 times the size. up a notch. Ahhhh. God, Johnny Depp's. Just as racist, 30 times the size. Johnny Depp's looking, not great. Looking great. He's looking bad. He's looking like a corpse. He's looking a little corpseish. Just a little corpseish, which I respect, but I don't respect him. Well, speaking of like, I don't get the Elon Musk defenders online in the same way

that apparently, I only realized recently that there's like, because of course there is. There's a whole, there's a whole sphere of like Johnny Depp stands. Oh yeah. Why? Yeah, I was like, why? It's like, how, I'm trying to imagine, you know, someone who is like 20 years old being like, I'd die for Johnny Depp. I get that more than Elon Musk. Why would you die for Johnny Depp?

He's not even like, if you want someone that looks like that, just go to your nearest gem shop. Yeah. But well, that's what I want French Stuart, but slightly more attractive. Yeah. Like, French Stuart mated with Marilyn Manson. I don't know, like, at least if you're like, my age, you would have grown up seeing like, Johnny Depp and shit like, cry baby being attractive.

Yeah. But if you're like, if you're're like 20 years old now, you're essentially saying I grew up wanting to fuck Captain Jack. Yeah, but they saw the movie. Did you read the Rolling Stone thing? I did read the Rolling Stone thing. That was what gave me the whole discovery of this hyper defensive fandom of his. Was yeah, the Rolling Stone interview where he he invited them the the interviewer to come and talk to him and like

it seemed it seemed to me not that I would really know but it seemed to me to be like a very obviously a very obviously staged attempt to paint himself as the victim of, you know, betrayal by the- Of being incredibly rich and famous. Yeah, yeah, he was like, oh, I've given, he's given so much to everyone and now he's forced to sit around and do fucking Keith Richards cosplay in his mansion. Well, it sounds like he just got, he did get like defrauded by everyone, like I could believe that. I don't feel sorry for him because I don't know, perhaps I'm a bit funny but I'd notice if

just five million dollars was taken from my account randomly and given someone else. You'd hope so. Oh shit, I didn't check my bank account for one day and someone stole five million dollars Fucking hell not again Not yet and it was my sister as That's the crazy thing. It's like his sister that did it I'll never get that whole thing about celebrity of people like I'm going to keep it real and give jobs to like my family members, so I'm gonna make my my like my shitty sister or brother who's never done anything with their life. I'm also gonna let them be my manager and be in charge of all the tens of millions of dollars. But I will put them in a situation where they could potentially really hurt me.

Yeah. Perfect. That's what loyalty is. Loyalty is being insanely dumb and giving a lot of money to someone for no reason. So, Patreon. Yeah. Shout out to our patrons. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Yes, we love you. Sorry about the end of your pod guys. Whoops. We had a good. So, um, so We had a good one. So to take a little to take a little recap from Wired, good old Wired magazine, they were just covering his his non-apology apology which comes after a tense week in which the world followed the daring rescue of 12 Thai boys and their football

coach who had become trapped in a cave in Changri after it flooded. By a international team of rescuers. Super villain Gary Gleather. He just lured them into the cave. Just hanging around at low tide. Like his face half submerged. But his weird hair like poking out like a shark spin Yeah, like like but do but doing the whole

Martin Sheen in Apocalypse now Half submerged you were there. I'm psychotic face. Yeah, can I just say this whole situation was predicted by and I want to say Janathio on Twitter. I don't know Who? Jonathanio? Jonathanio? I love that Pokemon. Look, you guys, you guys work it out. You find that. You fucking job to pronounce things.

Who was like, like two weeks ago was like, imagine the, how funny the press conference it would have been if the coach that got trapped down there with the kids was a nons. It wouldn't be that funny. It wouldn't be that funny for the kids, that's for sure. Kids might not. They might not see the irony. I know kids these... That for the kids, great for comedy. Just a great not see the irony. I know kids these... They're for the kids, great for comedy. Just a great one for the fans at back home.

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to be an Asian person. It wasn't super far from that. That's where Borat was from. Borat was never cutting commentary, but who is America is purporting to be so? And it's a trick in the sense that you are not able to discern that someone clearly has a giant prosthesis on their face. Like his face was like four times

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I really would appreciate you not saying anything bad about it. I actually really didn't mind you don't mess with the Zohan. I think I like that movie. Like acute brain damage or something. Yeah. I definitely do. I was like, oh yeah, like definitely like no question about that. But I genuinely watched it. I was like, this is funny, I guess. It's like, this is funny on some level, but I guess like I do really have brain damage. Like almost. And I agree because I too like that movie and but like in with the new character the super Israeli dude they're presenting to like hardcore evangelical Christian Republicans the one version of a Jew that they're supposed to like the most which is thethe war-mongering, super IDF,

ultra-Israeli motherland kind of, you know, well, and we're very pro-guns, and we're, you know, it's the one version of that that these guys are gonna look at and go, ah, yes, this is exactly who we're supposed to say yes to, and agree, given our political ideology and all allthat sort of shit. So I don't know, I guess is the way that he's framing it, the thing that just makes people go, I'm going to ignore this dude's weird rubber head.

That's more of a come toward joke. Jewish Max headroom. That's what to think about. That's more of a come-town joke. Nick Mullins spending an hour doing impressions of Jewish Max Etruc. Little, little wink and an odd to come town there. Oh my goodness. Anyway, wheeling right back around.

It's a good old Elon Musk. Oh yeah, he tried to make a stop when we try him up. That's all right. We'll work our way back around to it. So he decided to sweep in and make a tiny child coffin submarine out of rocket parts. Made a big deal out of sweeping in as the savior, posting videos of pool tests, flying to Thailand himself to deliver it. And they said, what is this? We can't use this. What is this big shiny dildo that doesn't fit into the tunnel system? And also, what's the submarine? It's like when you show up like a day too late to for your for your roommates when you're moving

out of a house. They just dump like a mop at the front door. They're like, ah my job's done here. I like walk away. Yeah, sorry that's been busy see you know like flying to Mars if you haven't noticed. Anyway, here's a metal coffin. When you need to get those child, those corpses out of here, give me a ring. Oh man. In a video interview with CNN after the boys were all safe, Kava Unsworth was asked about Musk's sub. He criticized the idea calling it, quote, just a PR stunt that had absolutely no chance of working. He can stick his submarine where it hurts. Hansworth said.

Where's that? Can someone please tell me where that is? I'm laughing because I don't know. I... His dickhole. Oh, somehow worse than the butt hole? Yeah. Yeah.

That mean I could easily fit a submarine up my ass. I mean, the dick hole might be different. Oh no, you're going to wind up with the whole hot dog exploded in the microwave thing going on there. Oh, hey, thank you. Musk took to his medium of choice to denounce Answarth in response to a Twitter thread. He was challenged his suggestion that the sub wouldn't have worked and said he would make a video to prove it could go through the cave and ended his tweet. Sorry Piedo guy, you really did ask for it. I seemed, I seem to recall that there was something missing in the middle here where his suggestion was basically like why else would someone live in Thailand?

Yeah I think that's where he got petto from. It's like why else would someone live in Thailand? Oh yeah he was in one of his tweets he said lives in tilai brackets suss. Rack it. Rack him. Oh boy. A bit of racism in there too. Love it. I was waiting for him to say Gary Glitter. Yeah. There was no base for this but must later double down on the accusation responding to someone who questioned his reaction by saying, bet you'd sign dollar it's true.

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Yeah, well, well, as he says here, as this well-written article suggests, the one defending me, my words were spoken in anger after Mrs. Hansworth said several untruths and suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub. Now we know what Elon Musk does in the bedroom. He shuts stuff off his ass. He would. I solidly believe that. Yeah, he's probably one of those depraved weirdos who's like, you have to have two different hentai on in the background to reach your chasm. Now me, I can just do it with the one, but. Just one regular kind.

One normal, normal hentai with a lot of animals and I'm good to go. Sorry, what was the subject? Just a regular man's dose of the hentime. The normal man's normal hentai. Just the normal amount of hentai for me, thanks. I've said, he suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini sub which had been built as an act of kindness and according to specifications from the dive team leader he wrote. Nonetheless his actions against me do not justify my actions against him and for that I apologize

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the tie. Would you like a model 69? Like, milk on feet, please. Yeah. E-feet. Come to Johannesburg, sweetie. Yeah. Seriously, this motherfucker could own an island or 12, and he could... He could be online, but he could just tweet like Chud Bungo fuck all day, like the rest of us. And have a normal one. And have a normal one, well, just like driving a Ferrari into another Ferrari, Chudbongo fuck all day, like the rest of us. That is the dream.

And have a normal one while just like driving a Ferrari into another Ferrari every day. And he'd be fucking fine and he wouldn't be doing this hateful garbage every fucking day. Well, like people, were genuinely, there are probably some really fucking horrible people, just assaulting this guy constantly on that line. Probably some, someone else said this guy constantly on that line. Now probably some, someone else said this,

so don't seem I have any smart ideas, but someone else said it is like, Reddit, Reditors and Gab people are probably already trying to look for or fake stuff about this guy being a pedophile so they can please their Rick and Morty God. Yeah. No, there's no doubt. I mean, I saw in the replies to some of these things, somebody's saying like, oh, well, you know, why would he say that about this guy

unless there was something to it? Maybe we should be looking into that, you know. It's like, yeah, can we should we be looking into it? Yeah, can we should should get Q&O on to it. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, the whole, the whole internet self-appointed task force thing is sex crime task force is very strange to me. The internet sex crime task force, fucking tel. Yeah.

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Brilliantly. No probles. All sort. Is there anything he can do to turn this around other than fucking stopping? Just stopping posting. No, no, I mean absolutely. He's fine. Like you have to realize even with this shitty reply, even with like the literal other than not doing it pretty much the least amount of effort he could have made. He is still going to be fine even then because CNN was like Elon Musk replies and apologizes. That was it, job fucking done.

No like shitty response. Tech Crunch went, apologize somewhat. All he needs to do now and this may be impossible for him is shut the fuck up and he's fine. If he just stopped doing that and went back to tweeting whob-dub-dub-dub and whatever bullshit they say on Rick and Morty, great he'd be fine. All he needs to do is return to saying nothing except whatever's happening with Tesla and people would leave him alone. If he gave out like 30 Model 3s to a bunch of bloggers, they'd fucking lap it up and they'd be singing his praises again. That's all this takes. It takes literally doing what Apple does. Shutting the fuck up, giving people free things and making them want more because you are that big a company. That's in. It's all that takes except he's gonna fuck it up because he can't help th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the an the an te an tean tean tean. toge an toge toge to toge the the the the the the's it. It's all that takes. Except he's gonna fuck it up because he can't help but get this kind of weird...

he has this hard-on for like arguing, but not even arguing, because he never fully goes reply guy. He never fully goes deep down to the, I'm not racist but layer of the internet. But he just, he does old school dog piles. And it's fucking sickening because like, he, it's just, what's going to be sickening is when he eventually retracts back into his lair and he gets away with all this shit. He literally finds all of these people who will write positive things about him again. It's gonna happen. He's gonna, unless he just continues to twee angry shit all the time,

which is very possible, don't get me wrong, they'll probably forget about anything negative ever happening, and they'll even find a way to call this like a redemption story. Can I take a swing at a mild take here and say that for his fans, right, I think the Pido thing has actually helped distract from the dumb-ass submarine thing, right, to CNN and to all the, Oh no, I don't think his fans gave a fuck about the submarine. I thought they was beautiful. They probably were all like, oh yeah, this is beautiful. It's so nice that Elon Musk gives a shit about all these kids.

And these mean hard, it was very clearly the reaction. Yeah. But to me, focusing on the, if we kept focusing on the submarines, right, it kind of, it's attacking his image as this bold genius. And it's like, no, you've just generated a bunch of trash cans and kicked you know Oscar the Grouch out of it sort of disagree like disagree just because honestly sorry to just this is my podcast now so this is the only reason that that isn't true because logical relatively normal people would think exactly what you think except we've already done a version of this on a much larger scale of Elon Musk the victim

which is Elon Musk versus car companies. that's larger scale of Elon Musk the victim, which is Elon Musk versus car companies. That's all that, it's the same thing again. No one's going to say, well, your dopey-y-ass cars that you can't make fast enough can't compete because they cost too much and they're too hard to make. No, people are seeing it and saying, well, you know what, big auto is holding him down. He had to start with the expensive ones first to get the technology right. Exactly. He had to start with the submarines that kill the children first to get the technology tried

to move on. You remember the cat and the hat? Find out where it's not? Yeah, you've got to the cat and the hat and find out? the the the the to find out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out where the the the the the the the the the the the the the their to kill the kids first. Get it right. You've got to find out what part of the submarine is killing the kids and then take that heart out. But in all seriousness, he didn't get a chance in that narrative, he didn't get a chance to help the kids. Because big, yeah, yeah. And I have seen that. Big government kept him down. Because they were too busy actually saving the kids in time just before the water levels rose, which would have just killed them all, to fit one submarine down there. Yeah, they didn't give him a chance to help because big government wanted him to look bad,

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there are, for the most part, Tesla fans believe and have always brought into this narrative. I say this driving a Tesla. I'm not kidding I actually do drive a Tesla. Oh boy. Yeah, I'm a real piece of shit over here. Well, I mean, you'll burn to death soon, so it's fine. Keep the- But I want to die, so fucking great. Put me in the submarine if you want to kill anyone. But in all seriousness, it's a good car, but there are problems with the company.

Now, there are some people who think that. With the submarine, there was no real, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,% of Tesla fans really believe that he was, he was like just putting a fucking tin cam that would have 100% murdered the children in the sea. Most of them just think he didn't get a chance to try it and his greeny camera phone bullshit proved that his genius tincan submarine would have saved the children and been a hilarious adventure like Yellow Submarine. And it would, and that's the thing, that's what most people I believe think. They think that Elon Musk is this genius that is trying to help the world because he's

just that good and that nice when really he's just a fucking dip shit with a lot of very vague ideas. That's what I don't get with all these fucking outlets who cover every fucking tweet he makes. Like he has these insanely vague ideas. I mean, he's gonna help Flint somehow. Everyone covered it. He's gonna get bricks for low income housing, which by the way is not like the problem with low income housing. He's going to get bricks for low-income housing, which by the way is not like the problem with low-income housing. It's not like, they're not like, ah shit, we can't afford the bricks. It's nothing to do with the services. It's the bricks. There's the problem. They got all these people waiting around in social services, that classically overfunded industry. Yeah, they got a big old bucket of grout there. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're. Yeah. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not like, they're not like, they're not like, they're not, they're not, they're not, they'rethere, all the tools, just waiting to go. God fucking damn it.

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torch labeled as a flame thrower for four times the price, then they're not going to wise up ever. It's the, it's the most ridiculous cult of personality by the biggest group of people who would totally despise any other kind of cult of personality if it involved women or people of color or religion or anything else, right? But like on absolute material terms, they cannot criticize Elon Musk. Well, I wonder as well, like, just with what you were saying it about, you know, people looking at both the cars and the rescue attempt and saying, ah, but somebody else stopped him and that's why, you know, that's why it doesn't matter that this thing isn't perfect or didn't work very well or whatever. I think there's also that thread running through the whole thing of, you know, if he says, if he's making electric cars, if he's saying that he's somehow going to fix Flint's water problem but not really doing it, or if he's saying he's going to rescue kids from a cave and then not actually doing it, any criticism of that is met from his fans with, well at least he's trying to do something positive, what are you doing to help those kids? It's like exactly

as much as Elon Musk is not helping them at all. It's exactly how much help. Yeah, that's how much we both helped those kids. That's what all my DM say. I've got all these DM requests from like Elon Musk. And me. Why do you hate Elon Musk? And what do you hate Elon Musk and what do you do to help the Thai kids? What does that mean? Why are you messaging me about this? I don't care. It's like, that's like that fucking argument when people argue with you and say, well if you can't do it, then you shouldn't have an opinion about it. Like if have a bad meal you can't say oh it's bad because of you're not much of a cook it's like fuck off you've these circular bullshit arguments and also what does it even mean to say I noticed that you're criticizing you you said you had a bad experience in this dank alley but how many

dank alleys have you built? Yeah, well actually, it's where I'm most of my victims. It's a great, great PR week, great PR week for Elon Musk. It's so funny how easy it would be as well for him to get positive press and everyone love him. Like so his cars are actually pretty good. That's the crazy thing. They're actually good cars. I actually really like them.

It's just really weird how, yeah, I have this really successful product that most people like. But I will just over promise every day and constantly put myself in the press in a negative manner because I just can't fucking log off. Well I wonder how much of it comes from, you know, has he become or has he always been someone who sees himself as the company? Yes. You know, Tesla is Elon Musk, Elon Musk, Elon Musk is Tesla kind of thing. Because surely that's a pretty fatal move to kind of get into, get yourself into a position

where you think that the company could not or would not continue without you because they absolutely will. Yeah, and that's the crazy thing, it would. Just look at Papa John. His fucking pizza company is named after him with his face on all the boxes and they just fucked him off. Bad move. Yeah. I hate it when somebody forces me to say the N-word on a teleconference with my shareholders. Such a good justification as well. They pressured me

into it. I'd say it. Everybody started chanting say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Everybody started chanting, say it. Say it. Say it. Do it. Do it. Yeah, I would just love to hear him explain that slightly. Yeah, like. Say the end was.

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So, I mean, my understanding of it is that it's sort of going back over the old, the old ground of, you know, how much should we allow on Facebook? And you know, how much should we allow on Twitter and what should we do about the people that are maliciously spreading stuff like Sandy Hook didn't happen. Well yeah because they just had the whole info wars thing didn't they where they said oh we're not going to take info like you know we're gonna start cracking down on fake news we won't take info though because that's valid opinion and analysis. Yeah yeah that's that right. And and well I mean it's probably easier to let him explain it. So you know the interviewer says Sandy. Okay Sandy hook didn't happen in quotes is not a debate. It's false. You can't just take that down and he says well agree it's false. I also agree. You know that if you're a victim of Sandy hook and you tell them you know, hey you're a liar. We'll take that down. Right. But then he goes well I'm. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm. th. th. th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the and you tell them, you know, hey, you're a liar, we'll take that down, right? But then he goes, well, I'm Jewish and there's a set of people who deny the Holocaust happened. I find it deeply offensive, blah, blah, blah, but I don't think we should shut it down because I don't think that they're intentionally getting it wrong. Right? And the interview jumps in here and says, well, well, it's the the the the the they, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the interview, the, the interview, the interview, the interview, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I's th. I'm their, their, their, their, th. I's, the interview jumps in here and says, well, I think they are. And he's, well, it's hard to impugn intent and to understand the intent.

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Is that a large demographic of Facebook now? Like, oh shit, we're giving up the Holocaust dem, the Holocaust Denier demographic. Ah shit. We'll never make it through this quarter without the people who deny the Holocaust. Do we also happen to buy a lot of beans? Like, that's like, fucking Hines is going to drop our contract because we kicked out the Holocaust. It's fucking stupid. I'd just say Holocaust denial is disgusting and anyone who denies it shouldn't be on the social network. Fuck it, just go throw and say you should die in an oven.

Fuckin' ai. That'd be great. You deny the Holocaust, you get burned in an oven. That's that's for irony. That's good PR for the minute. Actually, I'd fucking love that. That'd be great. Well, we have to, like, in Australia, like like in Australia you like Holocaust denial is illegal. Wasn't it illegal on the internet for a while to like post that shit? It doesn't depend on like what country you're from and all that sort of like. In Germany Holocaust denial is is illegal. Yeah it's illegal.

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Isn't Mel Gibson's a... It's just incredibly anti-Semitic. I know. Yeah, he's like super, super, super staunch Catholic. And he also kind of refuses to get into... He both sides Holocaust denial about his dad like Mark Zuckerberg does about Facebook guys. Yeah, literally everyone it seems. But no there was another guy who like distributed Holocaust denial material like just

walked around handing out flyers and shit. Yeah I was gonna say Himlo? Yeah. Yeah I was gonna say Himlo. Yeah. He's back.. In Spack. In Pug form. The emails are coming from Argentina. Hello? Yeah, Facebook's new Project Odessa. Hello? Did we lose entry? You. SOTOMAYOR' END A SIGETHER. A slight technical error there, folks, while we argue about the truthfulness of the Holocaust. Well, you were just saying that, um, when we argue about the truthfulness of the Holocaust. Well, you were just saying that when you test the Zyclon B cans, you can clearly see that the metal is only 20 years old, right? Which doesn't make sense. I think that's what you were saying. Just before your government provided modem cut out.

Hmm. Just make your own connections, folks. I've said this before, but I've given the facts. I was so weirded out when I realized that there's like, that we have our own like false flag conspiracy theories in Australia about Port Arthur. Oh yeah, big time. About the Port Arthur massacre. What's that? So that was in Tasmania. That was the event that spurred Australia to like clamp right down on gun ownership. So there was a guy Martin Bryant in Tasmania who collected some guns and was a great big nutter and he massacred a whole bunch of people. And then the government went... 16? Which to be honest, sounds not like not that many. It was... it's high. It's high. It's a high-it. It's a high. It's. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's a that. It's a that. It was like. It was. It was. It was. It was like. It was. It was. It was a that. It was a that. It was a that. It was like. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thethen the government went 16 which which to be

honest sounds not like not that many given it's high high the time you know inflation and what have it is technically 482 different people yeah but yeah he he did all that very fat and so so that was what prompted like the gun buyback and the illegal firearm amnesty and all that sort of stuff, which is of course the thing that all smug Australians now. Now point to- I'm fucking just constantly tweet America's like, uh, yeah. It's so good. We did one thing right in our entire like horrible nations history.

But it's also it just it's so fucking apples and oranges too. It's like hey we you know we had this thing happen and we said why don't we let some people turn in their small amount of you know not great guns which aren't really a huge part of our culture. How come you haven't done that with your 400 million firearms, America, about this thing that is completely culturally different there as far as, like, no one in Australia, there's like one person in Australia and he's a politician who thinks that people have like a right to own guns.

Yeah, so when they say it's like it was a false flag, to the benefit of whom, like the bulldozer manufacturer who ran over all the guns afterwards? Like, that sounds like a fucking great job though. It would be very cool. Um, we have questions. Oh, yes, we got some questions for the mail bag. Questions for Ed. Let's see you. No it did not happen. Well wife of the show Connor Stokes did ask who will be the next renowned tech brain genius to publicly humiliate themselves? Who is the next emperor with no clothes? That's a good one. I mean, so a while ago, I would, like, a few years ago, I would have bet Mark Benny off, but actually he's become like the antithesis of everything Elon Musk.

He like reflects on shit when he does something wrong, he like apologizes to people, he even like survived Shanley getting mad at him, which is just you should get, you should get a purple heart for that. Like that is a fucking, you should get all of them like Iron Cross and everything, but nevertheless. So for the benefits of our listeners and not for me, I'm extremely smart, but for the listeners who don't know who this is, can you explain who? He's the CEO of Salesforce, very rich guy, rich enough to literally put his name in a hospital or two, but actually a nice bloke. I think it's going to be a major VC. I would not be surprised if we get, within the next few years, we get somewhat, probably not Andreason because he's being quite canny and actually logged off when he realized. Maybe one of the people that spent like tens of millions of dollars on the pathology bullshit.

Oh, Tim Draper. There's gonna be Tim Draper. There you go. Because he's got his Bitcoin tie and he's already wants to split California into like several step that was him. And I mean, he's been extremely online recently, and you never know, he may. But it's probably going to be a venture capitalist. It's probably going to be one of these. It might be maybe if something significant happens with Uber.

Like something really bad happens with Uber. Travis Kalinick. Another unfairly maligned person. I don't know what Preable's problem with Uber is other than the sexism and the free labor they get and the destruction of lives they get. I mean other than that. Other than those things. But yeah I think it will probably be a VC because it's just natural. I mean Tim Draper's already, he's already like Theronos denying. He already, he is not admitting Theronos was a big old scam. Which I think is fucking marvelous.

I think that is so funny. Oh, 100%. Like, the due diligence would be like, oh, it doesn't exist. Like the due diligence would be like, oh, it doesn't exist. Yeah, it's like the most immediate kind of direct, carmic backfire that I can actually think of in the tech industry. Oh yeah. Like, the clearest example of being punished for hubris.

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And we're gonna reflect on that when it happens. I'm actually surprised it wasn't a Bitcoin person, like, but the Winkle Vosses aren't really online, and the Bitcoin people were already fucking deranged, so it's not like a huge difference. Yeah, and all the people that bought it 22,000,000 th and their their their their they they they they they they've their their their their their their they've their, their, all the people that, you know, bought it $22,000 and sold at 7, they've already all killed themselves. Yeah, they're all dead.

I mean, I didn't kill myself, yeah. Yeah, there's time. We can still get you in that sub. Hell yeah. Anyway, friend of the show, Carl, asks, what smart home device has Ed gotten the maddest at? Oh, my. Ed buys and kind of tries out and reviews a lot of smart home devices and they're all bad? I don't know about that. I actually really, uh, sarcasm so I don't know about that.

But... I actually really, sarcasm side, I don't know about that. But, Wemo, probably the light switch ones. They are the most maddening when you're installing them. But, yeah, I would say anything with the light switches is always bad, but I would say Home Pod, the Apple speaker. Oh yeah. Which I should add, it sounds fucking great. I will stand for that shit for no good reason. Like there's no reason for anyone to defend Apple, but I do because I'm a, I'm the one screaming at woman at the top of my voice. That like, they should die because of my beauty.

No, but in all seriousness, it can't understand me, most days. I'm like, hey Siri, play music. I don't know where the moose stick is. Like it's, but it won't even be that sensible. It will usually, I'll ask it to play one Queen's of the Star Age song and it goes back to this really specific one called Infinity. For reasons I can't really understand because it's a really deep car. It's not like a common one. But also there are just times it goes, hmm, I can't understand that. Just gives the fuck up, which is very approachable, like I get it. But also annoying. Yeah. That is fair. We also have a friend of the show, Justin Frey McCulloch asks, hello Ed. Do you prefer coffee or tea and how do you have it?

Coffee all day? So I actually drink this stuff that my mate Phil makes. It's this stuff called Black Blood to the Earth. I did see this on your Twitter. Yeah, it's insanely powerful coffee. It's like one shot is two Edtytas. Ed. H Ed. H Ed. H Ed. H Ed. H Ed. H Ed. H Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed. Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed. Ed. Ed. Hello, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, th. th. thed, thed, thed, thi. thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th earth. I did see this on your Twitter. Yeah, it's insanely powerful coffee. It's like one shot is two ventilates. I just drink that from the bottle because I'm severely ADHD, like absolutely doctor, doctor approved. I am super ADHD. So does it help? Yes, because a lot of ADHD in particular mine is actually medicated with stimulants anyway.

Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, a little bit of learning. I know you bloats don't necessarily like your book reading, but occasionally you learn a thing. Sorry about that. Well, they're all in English, which is no help to ask Australians. So I really struggle with it. But no, it's, I like my coffee very strong and very black. Do not say... Like you men, am I right? Hey! No, I like them slovenly. Hmm.

Let's see, friend of the show, new, brand new friend of the show, Narissa Shannon asks, is super meal? Uh-huh. It's a a very Seinfeld era question. What? I don't watch Sunfeld. Is soup a meal? Oh. I'm going to say no.

No, absolutely not. I don't think it's part of a meal. It's an appetizer at best. You could have it as a meal, I guess. It sucks that we didn't have Ben on this one, because I'm on soup as a meal side. He's on soup as a meal side. Oh wow, I'm glad you guys are over from here. We both are extremely wayfish.

That's fucking Aristotle versus Plato. Brain lords, masters of genius. Yeah, we're gonna get right back into our soup versus stew to base all over again. Yeah, let's have a whole episode on that shit. Yeah, that's what is it. What is a chowder? Hey, uh... A miserable pile of secrets. That's right.

Um, why for the show, Tell Waterhouse, who you may know from Australia's Friday Lizard on Twitter. My favorite. It does make the Friday Lizard. He asks you to please rank your pets from best to greatest. No. Run us through your pets. So I've got your pets on it. Yeah. I got Shaw who's the kind of husky looking one. I don't mean fat. I mean, looks like a husky looking one. I don't mean fat, I mean looks like a husky. I don't know why that was so funny. But she's in Laskin Cleek Eye, she is the kind of white fluffy one.

There is Root who's the teacup Pomeranium we have. Such a hilarious. Whatever. I love my life. My life's so fucking stupid. It's wonderful. I mean, I really, I have a really, like a absolutely fucking stupid life. I love it. I don't know. But yeah, so Root's a teacup Pomeranian.

And it's based off of root from person of interest. Not the word for fucking. Just want to make that clear. So my other dog's fucking. the thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th is, th is, th, I's, I's, I's, I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's thuke, I's thus, I's thus, I'm thus, I'm thoom. I'm thus, I'm thoom. I have thoom. I have thiol- I have thiol- I have thiol- I have thiolus, I thu, I, I, I thu, I, I thu, I thu, I I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu. I thu. I thu. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I tho. I have tho. I have tho. I have tho. I have thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I have a tha. Just want to make that clear. So my other dog fucking, no sorry, um, other dogs called Kea, she is a Chooini, which would be a weeny dog plus a Chihuahua. It's my wife's pet from before she met me. She's wonderful. She is the most sedentary animal other than me. And what about the dog? But I made the joke during... I just made that... Ah.

Ha! Moving on, there is Hosanna, which is our garbage cat. Garbage cat? She was literally found in a garbage dump by another garbage dump, my father-in-law. And... He's a real shit but sorry is the one podcast I know he wouldn't listen to and he literally found her like in the dumps dying and I was like there's a cute cat bring it home and she is she hates everyone except me

she's like she's like the Twitter of cats. And damn, that was funny in my head. Then there is Tengis Pingus and flopsy-mopsy. They are, they are both, they are both ragdoll cats, they are fucking wonderful cats. They are, they're beautiful cats. They're ridiculous to look at, I have to say. And that's, it's yet one of that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th. th. th. th. the of the of the of the of the, thoooooo-a, thooo-o' that tho-o' that that that that that that that that that that that that that cats. They're ridiculous to look at, I have to say. And that's, it's yet one of many parts of my ridiculous life, but yeah. They make me so angry to look at, like, that these cats exist.

He's fucking, these fucking cats. The absolute arrogance of these fucking creatures. I'm gonna fucking bastard pieces of shit. I'm gonna fucking go when I'm done with this podcast. I'm gonna go and have it out of them You pieces of shit just fucking how dare you yelling slurs at my cats And people in Australia are furious at you right now guys Australians can't stand these cats It's like those outbrain articles

It's big the cats everyone's fucking furious, steamed. Find out why Australian is thrown. Sensed. But yeah, those are all my animals. It's a lot of animals. Yeah, it is. Big house. I'm one animal.

One animal. One animal, I'm like, get out of here. And you're on a podcast with him. Hey! How rack them. No pets for Lucy? I can't have pets. I live alone. I live a very sad life. I'm at work all the time. A dog would be miserable. Get a cat. I hate cats. I hate cats. Weird creatures. Hide creatures. But enough about you. Hey! I'm sorry that was, that was a creatures. Hideous creatures. But enough about you. Hey! I'm sorry, that was, that was, oh that was a mean one. I'm sorry, I mean I just got called a fat sedentary. I'm just lashing out at this point. You could turn into one of those, um, one of those like snake or spider girls, you know.

Look, I'm past that. I've grown out of that. Just have a snake on you all the times. Now on the rat girl. Like rats. I've always found those people who like, yeah, rats, they're just so smart. They like, you can keep them in your jacket and they just pull out a fucking rat. Oh, I don't get like, you're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they their they th. You th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. thi. thi. they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. the. the. the. the. to thean. thean. thean. they're just, where do they shit? Like, are your pockets just full of shit? Yeah, I love, I love

people who go to the, go to the mat for their vermin pets. They're actually not dirty. They're not dirty. They're not dirty. They're not not shit. They shit once a month. Are we defending rats. Are we defending rats? I don't want to be a the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I th. I'm. I the th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the the the the the the the the sweet and brace of death. Oh dear. Wouldn't we all? Yeah. Love to die. Any other questions? Do we need to... Do we have anything else? What have we got?

It's an... Oh, here we go. Lover, lover of the show, Travis Jordan, asks, what is the best DC movie or TV show, and why is it eye zombie? See, eye zombies a, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a eye zombies are that's a deep car. It's also a very good television show. It's very, very good. I really, eye zombie is a great example of a show that did well by having a very good cast and just fully accepting how stupid it was. They knew how stupid it was and they didn't pretend like oh yeah we have to, I also didn't, I thought it was vertigo, not DC. But. It is, it is vertigo, but it's. But, but it's. But, but it's the. But, the. But, the. But, the. But, the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the. the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the t. It's a t. It's a tele. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. It's a t. C. C. C. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. I also didn't, I thought it was Vertigo, not DC, but... It is, it is Vertigo, but it's a DC imprint, I guess.

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have some crazy show defining moment that needs to happen versus you can have a cool thing happen then just wrap it up You don't need to make it like a whole fucking thing So now the shows and then they had the worst villain ever on it the thinker like his Literally, he's on the flash the flash no zombie is just fucking dumb constantly, but it's so good at it Yeah, and it acknowledges how stupid it is. I will always take, you know, sort of deliberately, or just self-awareness. I will always take self-aware dumbness. But it's not self-aware, dumb. You're like, oh God, we get it. So, it's not like winking at the camera. Yeah.

It's very high production value, stupid. Like it knows exactly, like it's a town full of zombies like it's not pretending like it's sophisticated prestige television like that fucking piece of shit Westworld and sorry letting that let in the tiger out a bit there but look no don't don't don't worry you're not going to find any strong defenders of prestige TV here I think. Those people rule, those people are even funnier than Elon Musk people. But yes, so um. But I will absolutely take, you know, not, yeah, not self-aware, dumbness so much as just, just,

just embracing what it is. Embracing what it is, I will absolutely take that over the self-seriousness of like a fucking Zach Snyder DC movie. Oh, they're so fun. Did you see Suicide Squad? I did. I did. The funniest thing about that is still when they play sympathy for the devil when they go to see the suicide squad? Because you see, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoughly thoughly thoughly thoughly thoughly thoughly thoughly though. I'll absolutely. I'll absolutely. I'll absolutely. I though. I though. I though. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll thea. I'll thea. I'll theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat thea. I for the devil when they go to see the suicide squad because you see they're the heroes of the story and then every time they flip between them they have a different song and then when they become an army they play seven nation army.

It was just, it was so fucking I was pissing myself laughing especially the Joker, who, and I stick by my completely made up theory that no one gave Jared Leto a script. They just let him... He just turned up. He just turned up and they didn't tell him what was going to happen so common was just there going, wait, what the fuck is this shit? He's like, ah, you're why he looks really confused because he does not know he thought he was doing like a serious movie. Also he lies down in this pile of knives that's perfectly shaped like him lying down like what if he slipped?

Well I like to imagine before scenes like that you know just 20 to 30 minutes of him carefully placing the knives down. Just in a silent room. The Joker's in turn. Yeah. Oh God, I have to put down the fucking knives. Why? Oh, he wants to lie down on it laughing later. Oh, fuck.

See, suicide squad is genuinely one of the only things where like. Suicide squad is genuinely one of the only things where I would be really curious to see what the sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort the sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort the sort sort sort sort the sort sort sort sort sort the sort the sort sort the only things were like I would be really curious to see what the sort of original cut of that was like because it's also very clearly a movie that has been like mangled. Butch it hacked to pieces. I mean absolutely mangled by like a studio Tom foolery and everything and I'll give um it was it David Ayer that directed it because I'll give him I'll give him his um what else did he do? He did Bright um, or cop points. He did Bright, the Orcop movie. Oh, is it the same guy? I never saw that.

Oh, it's so good. Bright's so much better than Suicide Squad. They say, they say fairy lives matter in that, right? They do. Yes, they do. Well, uh, no, Will Smith says they don't matter. Oh, thiii. which is very strange that they have a black guy playing a life doesn't matter. Playing a cop, saying that in the films universe a minority's life doesn't matter.

But that's the Max Landis script for you though. Yeah, yeah. But David Ayer also did like Training Day and I think... Oh, I did Fury. Yeah, I loved Fury was good. Of course they're all relatively self-serious movies but um but yeah like you're saying it that that whole that whole beginning of Suicide Squad is like very clearly that they that they had tried you know wanted to do like a bunch of different origin story bits or whatever and instead they've got to direct it so they had to leave it like that. Yeah and they've got they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're th th th th thy tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho they're they're they they they they they they kid got to direct it, so they had to leave it like that.

Yeah, they've got it. What if instead we cut all of this down to about 40 seconds of montage and song cues? I think there's a different song cue every 10 seconds. What's amazing about that though is how easy it would be if you got someone like, I've said this so many times there's so many movies so many movies so many movies so many movies so m so many movies. so m so many movies. I the th so many movies. I th so many movies. I th so many movies. I th. I've th. I've to to to thi. I've to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. If. If th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the the the. the the the the the the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to this so many times there's so many movies on Twitter, but Mark Neveldin. The crank bloke, the guy who the gamer, two brilliant movies. He'd have done like a 93-minute suicide squad movie with the same cast and it would have been great. Yeah. It would have been fantastic because all you need to do is have a fucking dumb movie with, you've got Will Smith, he was fine. It's just none of nothing's fun anymore Everything has to be fucking serious and fucking a franchise and

But then you get audience the galaxy which is still fucking franchise, but good. I don't know Well, I think I think the whole DC issue is that they said hey, we'll let Zach Snyder do the first couple, and then that has set the visual tone for the film's universe. Cepia. Yep, sepia and gritty reimagining. Everybody attempting to do fucking Nolan's Dark Night 10 years after the fact. It's not good. In Australia, they love to do like, they love to make us go, you know, don't do drugs because this this this this this this this this this this this this th. because this th.. It's not good. In Australia they love to do like they love to

make us go you know don't do drugs because this is like where your drugs are cooked and they always show like this really grimy photo of like toilet with all this like chemistry set coming out and stuff and it's like really like under-saturated and the contrast is all blown out. That's a Zach Snyder movie is that toilet. what I love I the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were their they were their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. their. their. they're th. th. they're the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. theeeeeeee. the. the. the. the, is that toilet. What I love about the Chris Nolan Batman though, last one, was they were trying to do this big, serious, meaningful movie, and then they had a giant blocomer, go, bleh! What is it? What is it? And it was just so fucking funny. I was crying with laughter in the cinema and everyone was like, shh, shh, it was important. Man's talk is like,

blah, I'm gonna go all these people. It's just, it's so funny. I was just crying with laughter. Oh boy. Oh, I was worried that my, might have died again for a second now. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God! It would be fine at this point.

We would just say something mean about you and then close the podcast off. Yeah, that's fair. All right, well let's do that now then. Would you like to say something mean before we wrap this up? No. Me? Anyone else? I don't know. And you're the guest, you can see. Yeah, you first. Yeah, we'll do like a round robin kind of thing. I don't know. Where do you, where are you from? Where were you born? Oh, I was born in the city that everybody in Australia likes to talk shit about. Adelaide. Never heard of it. It's probably shit. There we go.

Job done. Yeah, but like I have Yeah, no. That's correct. There we go. Job done. Job done. Yeah, but like I have no, no. I did watch neighbors. That's about all I know. Well, like, I was born in Adelaide and like, because my, my dad was in the air force. Like, two weeks later, we left the country, we were like posted to the states. Right. And so, you know, years and years later, I remember saying to my parents like, oh, you know, I've never actually been back to Adelaide and seen what's like, maybe I should go there and check it out. And they were both like, eh. I wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, they legit just both said, oh, you could could just not. Yeah, just giving a miss.

Not to remember something and actually comment on it, but my favorite people are the people getting mad at Sasha Barron Cohen. After we just like insulted Sasha Baron Cohen on this podcast, but he'd be like, blah, yeah, he's like, I the Fisher, I can't believe someone where, like, someone who was like a television star for like 20 years and then had a Hollywood career. And people are like, there's a large group of conservative dudes who are like trying to make fun of her for having no career and having to leach off of Sasha Baron Cohen. Leave Violet Fisher alone. And she's also a huge success. Yeah, I would argue liketrue-calling with movies. Like a national treasure.

Like, she's loved even in England. I would argue that Isla Fisher has had a far more consistent film career than Sasha Barron Cutting. And is better at acting and stuff. Yeah. She's funny in everything that she's in. She's in movies constantly. And, um, like But look it up like all these conservative men who are like, die, yeah, she's a dumb ass, yeah she's with Sasha

Baron Cohen, which is a fair thing, like you married Sasha Baron Cohen, like, wonder if she knows, but nevertheless, um, it's like their argument is like that she's so useless that she has to marry someone like that, it's like, maybe they should say that about him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him that about him that about him that about him that that that that that that that th. thi, thi, thi, like, like, thi, like, thi, thi, like, thi, th. th. She's, th. She's, th. She's, th. She's, she's, she's, th. She's, th. She's, th. th. th. She's, th. th. She's, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, thee, that, that, that, theeeeeee, theee, thee. the. the. the, the, the,'s so useless that she has to marry someone like that it's like ugh maybe they should say that about him radical feminism right but yeah like like you saying I had a point it didn't come out well though it's just not just fell apart like a podcast it tends to make more sense to like criticize a woman for being a gold digger or you know leveraging someone else's career or whatever, if they're not a very successful actor in their own right?

Which is like the whole... The opposite of Vila Fisher. It's like the whole, you know, and... I don't even know why I'm talking about it because I don't care at all. People saying the same thing about fucking Megan Markle marrying into the royal family. It's like she was rich. Who gives a fuck? Two rich dipshits. Yeah, congratulations. They get to be rich together now.

The only lack of similarity with them was she didn't dress up like a Nazi. She didn't dress up like a Nazi. Yeah. But the only way of separating them, other than them looking completely different and speaking a different way and being for different countries, basically identical. Well, so, is there, you doing anything that needs plugging it? Oh, Ed's, it's my ass, oh. And we come back to the little kidding submarine again. We all... Oh, no, I'm not going to...

Yellow submarine. It's probably a horrible, it's probably a horrible racist joke in there, honestly. But let's avoid it. You just followed me. Did I? This what? Go on? No, I'm not going to do it.

You do the racism. You're from Australia. Your thing. I'm not going to culturally appropriate. We learned it from you. We learned it from racism genius. Yes. Yeah, I only just say follow me on Twitter. Edz it's Etz.

I'm only able to say Z on on here, because they say it properly in Australia. It's one thing we go double-for us. Mostly tweets about Zyborn Clock, so check that out. My favorite game. And I, honest to God, got told by a writer today. It's really interesting. You're like a successful PR guy, but you're also incredibly chaotic and uncontrollable online. Like, oh thanks, what a random fucking comment to make out of nowhere without me talking to you.

And they got very angry and blocked me. Well, congratulations on your successful career despite being a mammoth shit poster. It's like what... Overcoming your, uh, your odds. My, my, my, my, my, my lead poisoning, yeah. Overcoming my lead poisoning. All right, thanks for me on though, everyone. You're very welcome.

We've been meaning to do it for a while, haven't we? All right, it's an absolute pleasure. Wonderful. Well, as always folks, you can find bonus episodes over on Patreon.com forward slash Bondevista. And that's about it. Well, we don't know. Did you want to lead this one out? Oh, sorry. With what?

Well, fine, I'll do it. More like Ed. told you. Oh my God. What the- Damn it! Sorry, Ed, it has actually been lovely, but it has been rules of rules. She has been waiting for an hour to say. Let me just say, let's see, just one second, 9-1-1. There we are. The police are on their way to Australia.

You will speak to my lawyer in the morning. Ours is triple zero because 911 is far too complicated for our tiny Australian. Tiny racist brains. Do you all accidentally, like, when you're trying to skip things on an automated line, accidentally call an ambulance or something? It's just shit. Oh damn it. Don't need you, just try to get through the fucking phone company.

All right, I'll leave it, sorry. I know you're trying to end this podcast. It'll never end. Thanks very much Ed. Thank you. We'll see you next week. Bye. Thank you.