Boonta Vista - EPISODE 59: The Quartermaster's Calendar

Episode Date: August 6, 2018

Andrew, Ben and Theo are talking European heatwaves and politicians in hot water. Someone's spilling the tea or whatever! Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Brente Vista episode 59. We're coming to you live from an underground fight club. It's right. Ben's over there with his little book, he's right, nods into it, he's taken bets. And I am standing here just behind Theo, who's on a stool. I'm rubbing his shoulders and I'm trying to get him psyched up for what's about to happen. I'm gonna be honest folks he doesn't look confident. How are you feeling about it Theo? Not great. Not sure about my odds really I think it's probably 50-50.

I kind of I am really zoning in picturing like the punch being thrown and me just like very lively ducking under them. Just dancing out of the way. Yeah, I mean I figure if they can't hit me, they can't hurt me. So I'm going to go with that theory. Yeah, no, that's fair. Have you thought very far in advance about what happens if they do hit you? Oh. Ooh.

Oh shit. It's not going to work out for me. My goodness. I am Andrew. Hi. I'm just, I'm telling you guys. Are you? Sorry.

Oh, this is thewit. We need to like to invent a special kind of hello where we'd very declaratively make it clear if this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this is this is then thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to be to be to be to be too. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh. Oh. th. th. th is the to the tortuous. We need to like to invent a special kind of hello where we'd very declaratively make it clear if this is going to the audience or to us. To use, hello. Hey man, what's up? Uh, who? Nothing much. Just live in life. Um, just did the whole bedtime routine with the kids because apparently my wife has left me to join a choir. Huh. Probably not permanently.

Yeah, I think she might have just, she comes back from the choir. It's probably tonight, I would say. Well, it's the first time she's gone, so I don't know. I don't know. I am currently like a dog whose owner has gone to work, you know? Because it's separation anxiety. Oh man. And kennel cough.

Tell you what, George is in Sydney at the moment. And, uh, I lived by myself for about six years, perfectly fine. We've been living together now for maybe six months. Which would make you six years old and six months. Go to hell, but correct, yes. And I don't like it. I'm not a fan. It's very cold in a bed alone by yourself.

I can probably come in, like, come and tuck you in after this episode if you like. Well you don't generate any body heat because your body is too small. That's what the sheets are for. Yeah but you have to get the heat in there. If you've got another person in there the heat comes up twice as fast. Yeah it's true. I don't want to rely on my own body heat. Yeah, you tuck yourselves in, you snuggle up, you generate warmth like penguins. You know, it's just like in the movie The Matrix, when Morpheus says, the human body generates snubbing something, B-to-u's of something something. Yeah, slightly more than two AA batteries, I think he says. Yes.

That's enough to heat a bed for 20 minutes. Well, I only need it to get warm. I will keep it warm. The blankets will keep it warm. I just, I don't think any of you understand what I'm trying to say is that I need somebody in there to get the bed hot. Well I don't understand because I can guarantee it's like fucking 25 degrees where you are anyway. How cold can you be? Okay. So, fuck. It is. Quite warm here. the night's they're getting down to what, the the their. So. So. So. the the the their. th. th. the the th. the the th. the th. the th. the the th. their. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. teeea. tea. tea. teea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te.they're getting down to what, they 7 or 8 degrees maybe? Yeah, we had a couple down to like 3 or 4, which is nice. Wow. You know, but my house, I've surely spoken about this on the podcast, and there is holes everywhere. The house is mostly whole.

Well, you've really moved up in the world from a ramchackle apartment full of geckos with windows you couldn't close. Yeah, you couldn't seal that place either. I've never, in living memory, lived in a place that you could completely seal from the atmosphere outside it. Well, I see why you want to stay up north. I see why you want to stay up north. I see why you want to stay in a place where it won't get cold enough to the to to be.. to to to to the to the the to to the the to to the the thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. to to to thoes. to th. thathea. thathea. thathea. thi. thathea' thathea' cease tho-I tho-I tho-a' cease th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. the. Yeah. thease thease thease to to theat to theat to to theat theat thea theat theat house has something to do with the climate that I'm in. You also believe that if I go down south, I will also find an unsealed house to live in. Yes, I think as far as cause and effect goes. I think it's a pretty strong line here. Yeah, fair enough. I was reading a thing about the heat the heat in Europe at the moment the moment the moment the moment the moment the moment the moment the moment. the moment the moment. the moment. the moment. the moment. the moment. the moment. the moment. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yes. th. Yes. th. Yes. Yes. th. Yes. th. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. I th. th. th moment. It's hot. Apparently it's going to be like 45 degrees in like Spain and Portugal and shit like that. Man that's a hot one. Which is, it's like seven inches from the midday sun. Sounds like it. I guess this is what passes for

comedy for you guys, is that it? I don't remember laughing Ben is it funny to you that people are going to die in a hee wave? Jesus Christ. Jesus. Jesus. He's got you there there. there. there there there there. He's got. He's got. He's got. He's got. there th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the. th. th. th? Jesus Christ. He's got you there. Very insensitive. That is approaching an all-time high for high temperatures in Europe. And apparently just for... Hey, at an all-time high, are we talking about my life? Hmm. Yeah, but I hear people are dying. The room is split on that one.

Jesus. Yeah, apparently it hear people are dying. The room is split on that one. Jesus. Yeah, apparently it's like, it's sort of 25 degrees above what it normally is at this time. Yeah. That seems very high. That's a lot more. So the thing I've been thinking about lately is like what kind of like crude mob justice do you think will start being unleashed when the worm of public opinion actually turns on

climate change, which it is doing like incredibly quickly, right? Like there's only so many 45 degree days you can sit through and go, hmm, maybe something's wrong here, right? So like, what happens then? What happens with like, you know, did you see that video from the onion? The, uh, the weatherman? Oh, the weatherman? Yeah, it's good.

Yeah, yeah. I believe that's what's going to happen. Yeah. We don't. Oh, you mean other people? You mean the people listening? Yeah. If they want to pause, right? Again, I talk to me and I was like, we're recording. I can't just pause it.

Geez. Geez. But yeah, onion weather man, go you know, and this is not a threat. I mean, just for Ben's security, because it is his name legally. That's right, but like I do believe that, you know, let's say, Josh Frindenberg will be dragged out of his house and put in a large boiling vat. I was thinking we could maybe string, well, no, I don't know, let me erase that. I was thinking what could possibly happen was that Greg Hunt could be strung up by his

feet in front of Parliament House and then people would throw rocks at him. Hmm. Interesting. They used to put people in like big, big metalthen set, like big, big metal balls and then set a fire under that. And that could happen. And that could happen. I'm not saying it should. I'm not saying that I endorse it. What's the one that they used to put in the butt hole?

I believe that's, um, it's got a little tail. Hmm. Sometimes a fox tail, sometimes a rabbit tail. It's a throwback to the, uh, throw back to the bonus episode. You're talking about those, um, the butt plugs that have the furry things on them? I believe so. The tails and such, yeah. No, wait, that might just be a throwback to our Facebook chat. We did fosonas- that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th forsoenas on the show.

So Ben, what is your fersona? Oh yeah, we didn't get into this. Oh, I didn't actually, sorry, I didn't listen to all that episode because I'm a very busy man. I thought you might have picked one for me and I was excited to find out who I was and now I'm very disappointed. I didn't even really think of me while I was gone. I want to say like maybe snaggle pause or something.

Like, he's pretty chill. I think of myself as a pretty chill customer. Hmm. I would like to think of myself as, um, so I know this isn't real. The science or whatever has just proven the existence of this thing. But I love, I'm obsessed with the idea of it. The, you know, that the loneliest whale in the world? Oh yeah, yeah.

That supposedly they had... Just swims around the globe. Yeah, and they recorded whale song from it, and they believed... Or someone had extrapolated from the fact that it was singing on a completely different frequency to what blue whales usually sing at, that it couldn't communicate with other whales, but it turns out it just sings weird

and the other whales and it can hear other whales. So, it's like the Morrissey of the ocean. So, it's like the morsey of the ocean. Yeah, they thought there was something special happening. But this... Do you think if you said it again, it was going to get more traction? I think me letting out my breath was enough of a response. Yeah, they thought this was the loneliest whale in the ocean because none of the other whales could hear it, but they can hear it and they're just not into it. Yeah, just not into it. It's like the Morrissey of the ocean. Well, is that good? Look, on the bright side, on the bright side for that whale, it's going to wind up getting

cooked in the boiling waters of the ocean as climate change consumes the salt. I just... Breeze them right past that, Ben. Okay. All right. Do we have to stop and break something down? Or can I go on with my segue? I was going to do a segue. I think we've got a lot of show to do. Yeah, I think we'll just, yeah. Keeney and listeners. You're an actual beast. Hmm. I don't want you to toil that injured that way.

Me or Theo. Anyway, let's keep going. That's right, that whale is going to get boiled in the hot waters of the ocean. Speaking of people who are in hot water, a good old friend of the show, Michaeli Cash is in some trouble. She's had that that investigation going for a while. If you were to go back through our archives and find the episode, which I do not know the number of, where we discussed this in detail.

Or the name. I'm not giving you that much in going, got it real easy. Was it cash me outside? Did we call it that? God, I hope we didn't. I hope not. What if it is? Was it is? Was it is? Was it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is. Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Was it? Is it? Is it? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Was. Was. Was. Was. Was. Was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi that. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th I hope we didn't. I hope not. I hope not. Oh, yeah. I hope not. What if it don't think we did? Oh, embarrassing. Yes.

There was the whole saga from, I guess, the end of last year of the AWU raids, which were very obviously tipped off to the media by McKayette's office. To the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thoenck thoenck. I don't thoom thoom. I don't thoomeoue. I thoen. I don't thoesk. I'm that's that's that's that's that's. I'll that's. I've that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. thoenough. thoenough. thoenough. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I've. I've. I've. I'm. I'm. I'm. thea. thea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm tipped off to the media by Michaeli Kasha's office, to the police and the media and all that sort of shit. Look, I don't care if this is defamatory, but I'm going to say it. I believe they were tipped off by Mikhailiakash herself and she just did a silly voice. Yeah, well, she's already got a very silly voice. Oh, look, I don't think. It's a bit much. I didn't even say anything. I'm thah. I'm thah. I'm thah. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm tipped. I'm tip. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I'm tiped. I don't tiped. I don't tiped. I don't tip much. I didn't even say anything about her hair. How can it be? Oh. Oh, all right. All right, I'm getting out of there. I'm getting out of it.

Um, so, so that all of that has been ongoing for ages for a very long time and I believe it was, I want to say it was Alice Workman from Buzzfeed, who broke that story because you're certainly goddame right it was. She breaks every relevant story in Australian politics now. I don't know what the fuck everybody else is doing, but Alice Workman's doing all the workman. And... Really regretting this episode. Yeah. Well I don't have time to record another one. We're stuck with this. Yeah, that's it. There's one take baby, one take. And it's been going on for hundreds of days after the police said, ah, we will quickly establish the facts and then conclude our investigation. And instead it went on for like most of a year.

And they have finally recommended that the Department of Public Prosecutions look into it. Dun, it's a law and order noise. Now, Theo, you are a lawyer specializing in Australian criminal prosecution. Could you tell us what the significance of it being referred to the, uh, the DPP is? I believe we cannot comment on matters pertinent to ongoing case, Ben. I don't think you work for that office, so that it's probably fine for you to comment on it.

I think you should just go for it. I don't, I really don't want to risk speculating on that at this time. Hmm. Well Theo's just slipped me a note and the note says, oh, that it seems like for the police to have referred that, that they think that there has possibly been criminal conduct involved worth laying some charges against. Oh, see to me it seems like when there's an open and shut case and all those involved innocent of all charges, and it's all just a bunch of, just a bit of a witch hunt,

that it takes a hundred or more days and eventually gets referred up the mast head. My understanding of an open and a shot case is you open the case. Yeah. You wait a hundred or however many days, and then you keep it open and then you pass the case to a higher authority. To shut it. Yeah, can someone shut this thing case to a higher authority. Hmm. To shut it. Yeah, can someone shut this thing for me?

I wish I knew how to shut cases. Can't get it shut. I'm great at the opening part. I am top-notch at the opening part. Best in the department. Sidebar, are they, when they say describing what a briefcase is? You open it and you shut it. Is that what the expression refers to? Is that what they're talking about when they refer to a brief?

Yeah, because it's a brief case. And it goes in the case. And it's an open and shut case. Case. So... I think you're referring to the... they open the case and then they close the case. Well I'm assuming, and then they shut it. Yeah, but what I'm, what I think they're referring to is that they, they open the case and they get the brief out, to give it to the judge and they go, slam dunk, bitch, and then they just shut the case and the judge, the judge goes, theyrapapap, thap, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the, and their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th., th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho, I I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, they knows that you've probably got it all locked down if you immediately shut your case. Which was pretty much what happened in this case. Not the same case as the case in a good term. That we're talking about briefly before.

Not the brief case. God, imagine if we were talking about this and we didn't know anything about law. It would just be like a miss. It'd be embarrassing. It'd be embarrassing. It'd be embarrassing. Oh boy. Phew. Yeah, so anyway, we'll see how that all shakes out, but it doesn't look great for old Macalia. She's pretty effectively just dodged this whole thing the entire time and constantly refused to answer any questions about it, either the journalists were asking or even in like Senate inquiries and that sort of stuff. I was about to make fun of your use of effectively dodged because all she's done is artlessly say I won't talk about it but it's been extremely effective. Yeah that's a real loophole I think for Australian

politicians that are... It turns out you can just not talk about something. No I don't want to talk about that and then it just seems to just go away. Well let's hope it doesn't but to contrast this affair, somebody else who's having quite a bit of trouble at the moment, is Labour MP, Emma Hooser? I'm saying that with a question mark at the end because I would like you guys to correct me if I'm supposed to be saying it different. I think it's just like anything, we just need to choose one and stick with it. Pick one and stick with it.

Yeah. So when all the complaints come in, they only they write one blanket complaint instead of addressing our individual misproncingation. The 17 different wrong pronunciations. Yeah. Whose are then? We're sticking with it. Huza? I had always thought. No, I can't introduce complexity now. Hazar. What's Emma. I have no one. H. Or M-H. Thank you. So, she is being investigated for what can only be described as a myriad.

Menagerie. A cornucopia. Oh, just an absolute wild phantasmagoria. A smorgas. A smorgas. You got any more, Thea? An absolute surplus of complaints. Yeah, look, it's entirely too many complaints. It's entirely too many complaints. It's a list that has started off and then just continued to grow. It defied my editing, putting it in the show notes.

Yes, I see that you've just dumped the entire contents of several articles. No, this is not the entire contents. I copied and pasted the funny lines, which was probably about a third of the article, and it goes over seven pages. So let's get to it. Yeah. So, um'm reading here from again Alice Workman's excellent reporting at BuzzFeed. Federal Labor MP Emma Hazar is being investigated over allegations of allegations of workplace bullying and misconduct within her Western Sydney electorate office after a number of former staffers came forward with complaints against her.

The investigation, which was commissioned by New South Wales Labour and has been running since March, is being led by a barrister John Joseph Whelan and is expected to be completed in coming days. The scope of the Houser investigation has included allegations of bullying, harassment, verbal abuse, intimidation and misuse of staff. Senior state and federal labor figures have been aware of the allegations for over a year but did not launch an investigation until a former staff member put pressure on New South Wales head office and threatened to go public. BuzzFeed News understands,

Labor leader Bill Shorten was made aware of the allegations last year. Shorten's office denies this. Over 200,000 words of evidence have been given by at least 20 witnesses in the investigation so far. So a well-liked person I think. I mean that's 10,000 words of evidence each. Yeah, which is a fifth of a novella. Jesus Christ. That's like two two essays. Why couldn't you just broken that down into several novels, you know? Why did it have to be novellas? Anyway, I don't know how like a novel is. All I know is a novella is generally about 50,000 words. That's the only thing I know about writing. So this next part is the part that to me was really the

beginning of the Stinky Trail. It is no secret in Canberra that Hoosar's office has seen high staff turnover. During her two years in federal parliament she's had more than 20 employees through her electorate office in four full-time equivalent positions. And to that I say, get fucked. So what's that each? There you go? Ah, I believe that's five. It's like less than two months, isn't it? Five what? Sorry? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. So, it's. So, it's. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th, th. thi. So, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thuing. thuing. thuing. thuing. thuing. thuing. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. the the the the the the the the th. the th. the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeee the theeeee theee. thea. theooooooooooooooooing. their., I believe that's five. It's like less than two months, isn't it? Five what, sorry? It's just five. Per person. Five per person. So five people through each of those positions over a period of two years.

So on average, we're looking at people stayed for about five months each. What? You got all right? Uh-oh. Oh, somebody break out the calculator. Anyway. Carl email us. I can hear Kyle getting so mad. I think I'm pretty close with this and I don't like that you, uh, presuming that I'm wrong based on the fact that I got every single number wrong in the last episode where I tried to do some math.

Oh, I broke out a calculator about this particular thing recently, but I'm also sure that I'm wrong, because I'm wrong about anything to do with numbers. Anyway, the point is though, that this to me was like a very strong indication that something is wrong because if you told me, if I fronted up to any workplace and was doing a job interview or started working somewhere and they told me that they have not been able to keep any staff member on for longer than six months my immediate reaction would be oh so this is a fucked up place to work because what kind of workplace cannot keep a person there for longer

than six months? That is a very very bad sign. Yeah like generally my rule of thumb is that I kind of hit my stride at about six months. That's about how long it takes me to feel comfortable in a workplace. Yeah as opposed to say you finally get out three months after deciding that this place was destroying your life. So that's a that this place was destroying your life. So that's a bad sign to me. I don't know if this article includes the rebuttal where Macaulay Cash says all her staff work very hard including doing 17 hour days.

Yeah, no, that was like, well this is why people leave. Well so that was not in a bad way. That was, again, Alice Workman breaking the story of, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, that's, um, that's, that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's th., that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a bad, that's a bad, that's a bad that's a bad that's a bad that's a bad thea. Um, that yeah, that was another thing that's come out is is Again Alice Workman breaking the story of Nakeley Cash's office having a high rate of turnover and her staff apparently having to work like 17 hour days and shit like that and like Ben said her defense was my staff are hard working It's like no shit. No shit. They're working too hard. It's a challenging environment not not everyone's cut out for it. Yeah, that. they. the thick. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi. thi. the. thea. thea. thoo. thea. thea. thoooooooo. thea. thea. thea. thea. the story. the the, they're working too hard. It's a challenging environment. Not everyone's cut out for it. Yeah, guess who's doing the challenging? So former staff have given evidence to the wheel and investigation about what they saw as whose are inappropriate management style and staff expectations, including requiring staff to babysit her children during an outside work hours. They also alleged staff were instructed to walk her dog and clean up its feces.

You can say dog poop, it's fine, come on. Not great, but that's probably as bad as it gets, right? Who's are currently has a staff member living with her who performs household and nannying duties. Hmm. The former staff members claim there is a toxic environment in Hoosier's electoral office. One described working with her as, quote, hell. Another said, people are just afraid to go into work. One former staff member alleges, whosear is firmly abused staff, calling them, cunts and fuckwits.

All right, well, you know, you have to hear the tone of voice there. Cants. Ah, you're a bunch of fuckwits. You're silly cunts. You cunts, you fuckwits, you completely different. This fuckwit over here is a complete cut. This fuckwit over here, he's a complete cut. Completely changes. It's very tone sensitive, those two words. It is. It is, but at the same time, not super appropriate workplace language regardless of the time. I mean I've literally every single time I long on at work every single day the first thing

I say is good day cunts. The one tradition that I have with my working day. Yeah, like, so again the whole like babysitting her kids and walking a dog and all that sort of shit. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, and like I've heard the defense from her office and other people that like, oh, well she's a single mother with three kids and she needs lots of help. And it's like, yeah, maybe use some of your $200,000 a year salary to hire a fucking nanny. Like, call me crazy. that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's that's, that's... that's... that's... that's... Yeah, that's... that's... that's... that's... that's that's that's that's that's that's... that's that's, that's that's,000 a year salary to hire a fucking nanny.

Like, call me crazy. You're crazy. You're wild. But when you get yourself a quarter million dollar a year salary and shit, and shitloads of entitlements and benefits and com cars and this, that and the other. Guaranteed pension, all that shit I kind of feel like you have the resources to sort of some of the shit out and what what has sort of really stuck out to me about this in comparison with the Michaela Cash thing is the reaction of

like labor voters online which is to essentially say ah this things all are beat up and you shouldn't be investigating this and, you know, all this kind of shit. Oh, it's all a distraction. It's all a distraction from other stuff like Michaela Cash's deal. And it's like, well, they're reporting both of them. So they really know how one's distracting from the other when you're talking about them both. Man, I saw one comment today on, so this is from when Alice broke this story, so this was like her pinned tweet or whatever, and I was looking at it thinking that it was a new one and there was a tweet with like a hundred faves on there that was one of those like dames, onion whatever, whatever, boomer, boomer, th, th, th, this, this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th, so this is this is th, so this is this is th, so this is this is thi, so this is this is this is this is this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is from, so this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is thi, so, so thi, soo, so thi, soo, soo, soo, soo, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. this is from this is from this is from, from, from, from this is from, from, from, from, from, from, from, this is from, this is like, oh, I guess this must be the first story you've ever broken. Maybe you should consider blah blah blah and it's like the fucking McAly a cash thing, you fucking dip shit.

Oh, so like so many of the replies, like when are you going to finally talk about the Michaela Cash thing? It's like she broke the story and also is the person who is single-handedly kept the story alive and also like oh well, like when are you gonna talk about you know Malcolm Turnbull giving half a billion dollars to some four-person think tank with no other public servants present but on the other hand wouldn't it be just so nice if there was only ever one thing happening in the entire world at any one time right you just go what we've only got time for this one thing let's just just let's just have this thing and then we can do maybe th your the the the the the the the the the the the th you th you th you th you th you th. th. the the th. th. th. the th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. thing. Let's just, let's just have this thing and then we can do maybe your thing? We'll have a vote, maybe, as to what the next thing is that we can do, but only one thing at once. But in the case of, like, almost without fail, every one News who has broken all of these stories.

It's like how do you complain that this person about not giving an appropriate amount of attention to other issues when they're the person who was brought it to your fucking attention in the first place? It's absolutely absurd. Like there was another line in one of these, one of these complaints about Emma, Emma Hussar that was like, saying that she, she made a male staffer like do her dishes in the kitchen at work and told him that it was so he could like learn about male privilege. And I saw a like a whole bunch of people online going, yeah, fucking tell him. Yes, Queen.ell that fucking man and shit and like like with so many of these sorts of things I always want to think to myself like okay but just just flip the genders around and ask you're

to thi the genters around and ask yourself if you'd be happy about that story like or take out your party affiliation and ask yourself if you would be happy with your manager at work saying, clean my fucking plates in the kitchen because you're below me. Like it's just shitty abuse of stuff. That's all it is. It's just power-tripping bullshit. And the extent to which people are perfectly happy to look past stuff if someone is on you know on their nominal team is fucking absurd and it's good that that's as bad as the accusations got oh wait oh wait oh wait oh wait hey Labour MPM a who's I bragged about who she was having sex with sexually harassed an employee,

and intentionally exposed herself in front of another politician, according to allegations made by staff to New South Wales Labor investigators. I just want to say, up front, this makes me so deeply uncomfortable. Not necessarily what she did or didn't do, just the whole thing. I just, it's fucking... Would it help if I I if I read the article in a sexy voice that would make it far worse it's just I'd like you know there's this whole back and forth there's obviously a lot of witness testimony about it the person this was directed at it's not it although I know you have some thoughts on this Andrew it's but it's it's it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th is is th th th. th. th. thi. It's thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm it, although I know you have some thoughts on this Andrew, it's, but it, in saying stuff like this about, women's in Parliament is weird, but also if she did do it, then it's fucking horrible, it's the

whole thing I just, I have, I don't know. You're very uncomfortable about women's genitals, got it. Largely,. A sex positive woman comes along. Un-finally. Unbelievable. I just, I don't, I find this impossible to hold an opinion on because everything about it makes me feel very uneasy. Well and this is kind of part of my large, my larger opinion about this this whole thing, which is, like, people all seem to be taking all these sides on it, and the reality of it is, there

is no good angle at which to view this from. You know? There's no positive version of this story. Anyway, let me break it down for you. One staff member alleged that on June 19, 2017 at approximately 7.05 p.m. That? Okay, if you're going to chuck an approximate before a time, 705 is quite precise. Yeah, the opposite of approximation. I mean, that's within surely a five-minute window of how you're going to round that.

It's pretty precise. Hmm, approximately seven, that's fine. It's fine. While in Labour front-pinch at Jason Clare's office, who's I performed the revealing leg-crossing move made famous by Sharon Stone in the film, Basic Instinct. And this is from the report. It is alleged that you and, redacted, attended Mr. Jason Clare's office of parliament. Mr. Clare was sitting on the floor playing with his son, redacted, alleged that he was sitting opposite you and that on three occasions you spread your legs revealing that you were not wearing any underwear. Redacted felt that your conduct was deliberate, provocative, and targeted towards Mr. Clare.

Well, they all learned something that day. Yeah, that's right. I would also like to point out that the quotation as it is written in the BuzzFeed article says deliberate, proactive and targeted towards Mr. Clare. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry, no I, I, I, I think I could be, yeah, no, I'd think. Well, I wonder if, I wonder if the intention of that is, um, well, I was supposed to go along with deliberate proactive in the sense that you, you did it, like, to get him to look at it as opposed to just, you crossed and crossed your legs while not wearing underwear and he saw. Yeah, I don't, it's just a weird, I don't know, that. th th that, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, I that, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I' th. I' th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I Yeah, I don't know, it's just a weird, odd word to use that to my mind. So, so since this event, Chris Allman, fun, renewable energy, hater and climate change denial, and whatever he is, editor, news editor at the ABC has come out and said, I've

spoken directly to Jason Clare, who has flat out denied that this took place. And this kind of leads me to a larger point about this entire thing, which is like, there are all these accusations. There's, you know, misuse of com cars, misuse of parliamentary entitlements. There's like using parliamentary entitlements on fucking, like buying groceries and there's making your staffers clean up your dog shit and babysit your kids and do your dishes and pick up your dry cleaning and all that sort of stuff. There's sexual harassment, there's mistreating people, there's just this huge array of stuff.

That to me coupled together with the like exceptionally high turnover rate, in my mind turns into a bit of a no smoke without fire scenario, but also one of the things that is alleged from a bunch of people in this investigation is we raised these concerns. We raised these concerns with the Labor Party and they didn't go anywhere. And that is a concept that does not shock me in the slightest. The idea that a major political party would shield one of its the MPs from, you know, having to take responsibility for the idea that a major political party would shield one of its MPs from, you know, having to take responsibility for this sort of behavior because otherwise they would have

to go to a by-election or they would lose a seat. It's obviously a time when labor is, you know, trying to really, really keep all their shit together leading up to an election that they have a very good chance of winning. And yeah, like, like I said, it's just wild to me the idea that they could somehow coordinate, you know, dozens of people to give hours worth of testimony about this shit and all of them have been coordinated to make it up, you know? That shit is pretty wild to me. The fact that Jason Clare has come out and said, ah, that never happened. That's actually in line with the idea

that people at the ground level, the staffers and campaign volunteers and people who work in her office who have to suffer through an abusive boss's shit, raised this and pushed it up the line where it just got smothered by people at the senior party level who said well we don't want to lose a seat, we don't want to have controversy in an election year, any of that sort of stuff. Jason Clare denying that any of this took place is super in theory to me.

That's it it's like consistent with what would have led us to this situation in the first place, which is a refusal from senior leadership within the party to deal with a toxic environment and an abusive boss. I mean, even if you don't believe it's true, right, which, you know, it's weird, but, okay, you're coming at this from a different angle. Surely you have to agree that the model is broken, right, where there can be no internal consequences, right, unless forced, because otherwise there are external consequences to it. It just, obviously, there's a gigantic pressure to never bring this, th, th, to to to to th, to to to, to, to, th, to, to, th, to, to, to, to, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to know, to, to know, to, to, th, to, thi, to, thi, you know, thi, you know, thithere are external consequences to it. And it just, obviously there's a gigantic pressure to never bring this stuff up, right? Or at least never bring it up in a way that's going to have public consequences.

And also the entire system is geared to basically bring psychopaths into office. Right? Like, the behavior of our representation is, is geared to bring psychopaths into into office. Right? Like the behavior of our representatives statistically is not in line, I think, with behavior out there. I mean, there's bad bosses, but they're way more badly behaved representatives, I believe. I believe I'm not going to look up the stats or anything. What am I, some sort of person? But the... Sure.

But also the amount of time that people like abuse their entitlements. That's right. Like all that sort of shit. And like you said, you know, you're being paid $200,000 plus a year, right? You don't need to abuse your entitlements, but if you weren't a psychopath, you probably wouldn't be in the position that you are, right? Like, you're not going to become a politician because you want to help people or anything like that, right? Like, or at least if you do, it would have been crushed out of you long ago. And we're just

left with these people that, you know, almost universally. You talk to like staffers and you talk to contractors and you talk to people that have to work with our MPs. And you know, they will say, oh no, they're just huge weirdos. They're insane. They're like real estate agents who got ideas above their station. God, that's fucked. Right? And how do you do it? How do you fix it? I don't know. Yeah, and like, well, to answer that question, I think part of what needs to happen is that people need to actually be held accountable for their behavior. Oh, 100 percent. Like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, it, it, it, it, it, it, they they they they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to happen is that people need to actually be held accountable for their

behaviour. Oh, 100% like it has to be, obviously the carrots not working, right? Yeah. So you're saying we should try more carrots. Two to three times as many carrots. Yeah, like a half a dozen carrots. Or hear me out, a different kind of carrot. Bigger carrot.

Perhaps an heirloom carrot. A different colored carrot. Yeah, like, and this is the question that I would level to anybody who is obviously not listening to this podcast. Any like just super broken, rusted on labor supporter who was having a go and Alice Workman on Facebook or Twitter or whatever and saying oh to beat up or it's a distraction what about this other stuff what about that other stuff I spent far too much of my day today in like futile attempts to sort of say to a

handful of those people are you honestly telling me that if this litany of allegations of like misbehavior and abusive resources and staffers were leveled at say, treasurer Scott Morrison, that you would be saying, oh, it's all a beat up, let's wait until all the facts are in. We shouldn't even be investigating this. We've got bigger fish to fry. Would you honestly be saying that???. And that, that, that, that, thi?. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. thi. thi. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thus, thus, toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomuuu. And, thoothis we got bigger fish to fry would you honestly be saying that and the answer is fucking of course not fuck off

and like the the reason that i think that this is a test for the labor party is well not just the reason that it's a test for them but you see all these people saying oh well how come we don't we're not hearing as much about the the Michaela Cash stuff how come we we didn't hear as much about the Barnaby Joy stuff and the very obvious answer to that is because a the liberal party do not give a fuck about graft and all that sort of shit because that's 100% what they're in the game for they're their

their extremely good at closing ranks around their own rather than forcing them to actually take responsibility for being caught for that shit. It's been that way since like after John Howard was Prime Minister. You know he got in and like cleaned some people out who were caught in some obviously dodgy stuff. But look at what it's been like since then. The liberals will absolutely not force somebody to resign unless it is either at a point where someone is having criminal charges laid against them or the public is ready to fucking hang them from a tree. Yeah, it's at the point.

Bromman Bishop and all the helicopter shit. For sure, it has to reach a point where it's politically expedient for them to actually take action. Yeah, it's absolutely not about morals, it's not about standards, it's not about ethics, it's not about doing the right thing. For them, they've realized that they can just, as we said earlier, they can just stop talking about it. Stop answering questions, close ranks about around the individual, and then, you know, if the fever passes and

the person gets away with it, that's fine. I would say that it's actually, like this is a test to labor, to prove to people that they're worthy of governing. To prove to people that if, you know, one of your MPs has this litany of horrible accusations against them, that you actually say, well, clearly, the, and the, and the, and the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, and the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, and the people, and the people, and the people, and the people, and the person, and the person, and the person, and the person, and the person, and the person, and, the person, the people, the people, th, th, their, you know, one of your MPs has this litany of horrible accusations against them, that you actually say, well, clearly, this shit is, you know, if this shit is true, it is completely unacceptable and this person will have to resign, let's see the results of this investigation or let's refer it to an independent third party or whatever the fuck. Point is though, I think the part of the reason that this is stayed in the news is because Labour will actually talk about it. Like, Tanya

Plybyssek and Bill Shorten have both given comments on this. They have both acknowledged that it is taking place. They've both actually commented on, like facets of the investigation and the reporting. And like, like I said, to me, it is just a chance for them to actually contrast themselves with the liberals and say, we will actually do something different. We might actually act on this if it is shown that one of our own is acting in a completely vile manner, which to be honest is something that I would like to see out of one of the major parties. You know, instead of them both just holding the line that well if neither of us ever actually

act on any of this shit and punish anybody, then sweet. We've got a sweet stalemate, like the banks, you know. Sure. I'm a, I think another thing about this that I wonder about and that I think all the weird lefty boomers going off at Alice. Should be wondering about is, so this, her reportage, reportage whatever that word is is based on leaks right people are leaking this information to her it's not the liberal party that's leaking this to her you know like this is either the people that are affected by it are handing this to her or it is someone else within Labour doing this. Yeah, and there's two distinct possibilities there.

Well, three actually, there's two distinct possibilities. One is, as we said earlier, that the people that this is affecting have repeatedly gone to their leadership who have refused to act on it. Number two is that there is, you know, a factional enemy within the Labour Party, within New South Wales Labour's right, who is, you know, trying to depose her, trying to make her look bad or whatever, by confecting all of this stuff and feeding into the media. As I said earlier, I think the idea that you could get dozens of people to cooperate with an investigation and give internally consistent testimony in order, like in order to just to discredit somebody is that some conspiracy theory shit to me.

And the third option, which is what I think is the most likely and realistic one, is that she's a shitty boss who mistreats people and abuses her privileges and position, and that somebody who is a factional enemy of her within the Labour Party has seen this cooking for as long as it hasn't said, I'm going to leak all of this stuff to the press so that she looks fucking terrible and gets drummed out. Yeah, I don't know how anyone who has had a shitty boss could look at the kind of stuff that's being said in these cases and just go, oh no,

I recognize that entirely. Like, this is well within reason of many, many bosses out there, so... Oh, it all just sounds like that shitty boss that you've had that thought that they were mates with everybody and was dragging on them and all that sort of shit. And look, I should make the point. I am not making any kind of proclamation on this. I'm not saying, I absolutely think she's guilty and did all this shit, any of that sort of stuff. I am merely saying that I think that it really serves to highlight the hypocrisy of supporters of the Labour Party to insist that this is a thing that's not worth investigating and that it's all smoke and no fire and so that, you know, it's all a distraction from something else

because like I said, if the if this quantity of allegations were coming out about somebody in the Labor Party somebody in the Greens these people would be fucking lapping it up they would be loving it and like if it is the third option that we were discussing of you know so this this is kind thi is allthe third option that we were discussing of, you know, so this is all behavior that has grounding in truth and has been exposed by a factional enemy or whatever, there's actually, there's a way, that you can avoid having this happen to you. And it's by not treating people like shit. It's by not actually doing the stuff in the first place to have it exposed by some political enemy of yours.

I don't know about either of you guys, but I feel like if somebody commissioned an investigation to see whether or not I had bullied the living fuck out of a bunch of people I had worked with, I would feel pretty confident about how it was going to go. Mmm. Sure. Yeah, I'd be okayish. Probably not Theo, but... Theo, I can imagine just really. Ugh. Really bringing the hammer down. Yeah. Sexually harassing the shit out of everybody in the office.

I really come out like big dick swinging at work which you know I think it puts a lot of people off but um I mean get stuff you don't care you don't care that's I'm I'm friends with your boss and I know for a fact that he bullies the shit out of you. All right but in a fun way nobody be worried about Theo. Only I can worry about Theo. I love some fun bullying. I'm sure I've told the story before on this show, but like, there was just one time that I found out way after the fact that I had just been bullying somebody. You know? I went, yeah, you think it's all fun, and then you find out that someone's just fucking hated this running joke the whole time.

And I was very sad about it. But I think the point is that you go, oh that's really sad, right? Like it's happened to me a bunch of times through my life, and I've got, oh, that's actually not, you know. I thought we were having a laugh about this, and we were not. And if your reaction is like, oh, no, we're just having a laugh and not, oh, I need to change the way I act, then you could well be a fucking work place politician.

Hey. Yeah, the other thing, yeah. And yes, obviously, Emma Husser's reaction to all this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's the th. the the the the the the the th. that's that's that's right right. that's right. that's right. that's that's that's that's that's. that's. yeah, the other thing. Yeah. And yes, obviously, Emma Hussar's reaction to all of this has been, I run a super ship-shaped ultra-professional workplace, and I'm horrified by the suggestion that I would bully or mistreat anybody. I'm super above board, everything is ultra-sweet. Um, yeah, like... I'm super above board, everything is ultra-sweet. Um, yeah, like, like I said, I like, like so many things, I think it would go a really long way, uh, if somebody were to say, I'm really taken aback by this stuff, you know, if I have hurt people, I'm really taken a back by this stuff, you know, if I have hurt people, I'm really sorry about it. If I have... Accidently made someone pick up th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi-up th-up th-up th-up th-up th-up th-up thi-up thi-up thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I, like-I-I'-I'-I'-I'-like-like-like-like-like, like-like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. thi. thi. thi. the people in my office. If I've accidentally made someone pick up tuards for me. Yeah, look, if I've totally unintentionally made you pick up a whole bunch of pieces of dog shit with your hands or shown you my pussy a bunch of times.

Oh boy. Totally accidental. Totally accidental. Hey, should we rattle off a few more accusations while we hit? Ah, we may as well. Let's get the full list. Yeah, yeah, let's get to him. A number of employees told Wheelan that Huzer asked them to zip up her dress,

making them feel uncomfortable. Others said, Huzer purchased multiple topless firefighter calendars and place them on employees desks. They've got to say whether it's male or female if they're gonna. I assume it's just shirtless firefighter dudes. You would assume so. Yeah. Um, all that said, I'm, I'm the worst person to talk to this shit about too because like, my, my, like, default mode for work is just, just keep it normal. Like I'm not buying, keep it breezy. I'm not buying anybody fucking firefighter calendars and shit.

We don't all work at fun, new media companies like you, Ben, where everybody's probably calling each other cunts on the group chat and showing everybody their dicks in the morning. Well to me, really, this is really more like my first time full-time job where I was in a warehouse and I remember the, one of the engineers brought in his girlfriend and the quartermaster had a, like a bikini. Can I just note how great it is and how old-timey it sounds that you worked in a place with a quartermaster? What the fuck is a quartermaster? Well the thing about quartermasters is you need four of them. There's a stormen, right? Like the guy that operates the forklift and stuff. Okay, I believe traditionally on sailing vessels the court of master there was the person that was in...

Well, it wasn't fucking sailing, Ben. Anyway, the bikini, what was the bikini thing? So this guy brought in his girlfriend and there's a bikini calendar up and this guy's girlfriend complained about it and asked him to ask the guy to take it down, which he did, the storm and said no, and then kept it on the wall all year, and then when that year was over, he ripped all of the date pages off of it and stapled a new calendar to it, and did that. When I got there... When I got there... Do you mean you put new dates on the same pictures?

Yes. It was not pictures. There was only one of them, right? Well, it's the most spiteful shit I've ever heard. When I got there, it had been up for something like five years. It was still up there when I left five years later. Customizing your bikini calendar to own the lives. Anyway, so to me, that is the kind of workpla.

It doesn't seem like a new media place. It seems like a more of a blue collar sort of thing. But. Yeah, my, see, my problem is that like I started my working life like in the public service and they immediately like give you all the, um, what's the word, not the onboarding kind of stuff, the, they immediately give you all of the courses and everything on like, hey, don't show people you dick if they don't ask, if somebody comes to you with a big sack with a dollar sign painted on the side, don't take bribes. All that kind of sort of obvious

stuff. And like, for me personally, I have just always found it so much easier in my working life to default to positions of, like, I would rather remove a whole bunch of kinds of jokes and small talk and shit like that from my workplace vocabulary than explain what I really meant by a thing to someone who has either been offended or like whatever it is. I just find it easier to talk to people at work like they're my grandparents than... You know what I mean? People are capable of modulating their behavior. People are capable of filtering particular things, all that sort of stuff.

I've just always found it easier to say like I would rather not be dragged into an office and told, oh you made this joke and it made this person comfortable or whatever. I would just rather not have to deal with it. Just skip the whole process for sure. Yeah, it's really fucking easy to not do any of that stuff. Yeah. And granted, like I said, I think that that is very much a byproduct of the kinds of workplaces I started off working in. You know, the vast majority of places I've worked in have been corporate or government. So most of them have an interest in kind of getting you to, you know, keep it clean, no work in blue, all that kind of stuff. And it's just not that fucking hard.

It's not that hard to not call people who work under you cunts and fuckwits, you know? Maybe I'm wrong. But what if they're really cunts and really fuckwits? Then you have to like manage them. Now look, I've called in here today, I've called you in here today because I've noticed you've been acting like a real cunt. You've been acting like a cunt and really, you've really been resembling a fuckwit.

So I want to know how we can work through that today. That's a really good distinction to make. You've been acting like a cut but resembling a fuckwit. You have the actions of a cut and the appearance of a fuckwit. Yeah, I want to know a bad combination. I want to know how we can resolve this going forward. How can we make you appear less of a fuckwit and get you to stop acting the cut? You know? I don't know like I said like it like it this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus that thus thus thus thus. thus. I thus. I th. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that is that. that that. that that. that. that that that. that that that that that that that that that that th, this whole thing, this whole thing just stinks to high heaven and whether or not the situation is, yes she did all this shit and staff complained about it and they've had to push shit uphill until they either got no traction and then had to go to the fucking media to get a result, which is again a very realistic thing,

when you're talking about large corporations and governments and shit like that, whistleblowing is a real thing, because it gets fucking results. Or, whether the reality is that this shit has, you know, grounding in reality and it has been leveraged by a political opponent, that doesn't give me any additional sympathy for the perpetrator. Like the fact that it is being leveraged by someone for political game does not make me go, oh cool, well that nullifies all the fucking awful shit you did to workers underneath

you. Like it doesn't magically make that ship good. Hey, uh... Yep, I agree. This one's funny to me. Oh boy. The staff member alleged that in August last year the Labour MP quote, rubbed her body up against him, end quote, the staff member said that Hussein had her right breast

against his left shoulder and arm for 10 to 15 seconds. On another occasion in September, he said that Huza had her right breast against his left shoulder and arm for 10 to 15 seconds. On another occasion in September he alleged that Huzaa had rested her right breast on his arm. Homeboy got some arm titty. Oh, I mean...I don't know about that. I'm formally stating again for the record that I'm not going to form an opinion on this until the investigation is concluded.

Oh, you're like the guy I was fighting with online today. I mean, obviously, my opinion is that the investigation should be undertaken because it sounds suspicious as hell and there are a lot of people that have backed up this. I don't think that you can have like 20 people that all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all have all all have all all have all have all have all have all have all have all have all have all have all have all have all people that all have an agenda based on nothing. But also this is just so fucking murky and weird. Yeah, it's all very bad. But, um, oh, there was also, there's also the whole thing about, like, um, here weelan's letter, letter outlined serious claims from staff that, whose are allegedly misused funding and entitlements.

One staff member alleged that there was quote money intended for other uses diverted into her personal bank account. BuzzFeed News understands several thousands of dollars were furaised by New South Wells Labour for election campaign and put into her personal bank account. That ain't great. It sounds bad when you just say it out loud like that. You put all those words in that order? It doesn't sound great.

Yeah, and like, like I said, I just, I, again, I'm not making any kind of pronouncement of guilt. I'm certainly saying, I'm certainly agreeing with you that having dozens of people all saying the same thing about you to an investigator isn't a good look. It probably doesn't bode well. Again I would be absolutely fucking shock. Imagine if we could get like 20 people to go on record talking about how Theo had like grabbed their butts and pressed his dick up against her asshole, you know? Please don't do that. Well Theo would have had to have met 20 people. I reckon Theo has met a dozen of people. Anyway, but uh, but yeah, like, you know, whichever way it goes, the thing that really struck me about this entire ordeal

has been this overwhelming suggestion from labor supporters that this is somehow not even worth investigating or reporting on. Particularly when you consider that the original context in which it was raised was, this has been escalated repeatedly through the party all the way up to the New South Wales Labour executive and received no reaction. So again, that makes me sort of go, well, fine, fair enough to fucking take it somewhere and try to get something to happen. But, um, but yeah, the whole thing to me is just the hypocrisy of insisting that it shouldn't get investigated while also saying,

Why aren't you investigating all this other stuff? It's almost like our political parties shouldn't be in charge of investigating themselves. Well, I know it's a crazy idea. Are you a federal ICAC boomer now? Oh, I'm 100% I've got my ICAC hat, got my little ICAC stubby cooler. I'm ready to get the, get the top down in my Holden Capri convertible. Just get that ICAC merch out there. At the Wazoo. For any international listeners, the ICAC is the independent crime and corruption.

I'm sure thought that's not the localized thing that you were going to explain there. What? Oh, what? A Holden Capri? Was that what you thought I was going to explain? I will not explain the Holden Capri. Please google that if you're interested.. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, for th, for th, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for tho, for tho, for tho, for tho, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for to to to to to th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, for th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi. For thi. For thi. For thi. For thi. For thi. For thi. For thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. For thi. For thi. For thi. you thought I was going to explain? I will not explain to Holden Capri. Please Google that if you're interested. But yes, there are state bodies, state anti-corruption bodies that investigate graft and that kind of stuff. There is nothing like that that exists at the federal level and it is the the pet project of boomers to type in response to any of these things on Twitter.

Federal ICAC now! Exclamation, exclamation. Federal IAC when? That's the meme. When do we federal IAC? Wait. Folks, we got a crime pass? Oh, it is definitely not going to be related to the sexual harassment or bullying in the workplace or raucous one.

You can show your pussy to someone like Sharon Stone in face against the instinct. Just one person, one person as long as nobody else sees, then trust them. No, you can... No one will believe them. Here's the thing,thing alright so people should be spared it mostly except you can show it to Wayne Knight if you find Wayne Knight on the street. Just go ahead and give him a glimpse. Can just to close out. Hold on. We're an equal opportunity podcast so if you do not have a vagina if you have a penis instead,

just flash the butt hole. Oh, yeah, that sorts it out. Okay, all right. But just, just from experience, you got to get the leg real high. The leg real high, you got to scoop some up if you want to show the butt hole. Jesus Christ. Anyway Ben, you were saying, I just want to read you three paragraphs from my story and I am not going to tell you what the headline is. I'm going to give you no context for this. I'm just going to read you these three paragraphs and then smash cut the end of the podcast. Okay.

Michaela Peterson eats beef three times a day. She fries it or roasts it, add some salt and washes it down with sparkling water. And that's it. No fruits or vegetables. Just meat. It's the carnivore diet, the latest food trend to sweep the internet, and the 26-year-old swears that it cured her depression and rheumatoid arthritis. Yes, she admits, it sounds absolutely insane. There is no research to back it up, and she isn't qualified to give medical diagnoses. But now she's offering Skype consultations about the diet for about $90 an hour, following in her famous dad's financial footsteps.

Her father is Jordan Peterson. What? Yep. And there we go. She's on the sea meat diet. She's on the sea meat diet. All I can ever think with this sort of shit is like what does the bathroom smell like? It's gotta be like. It can't be a good time.

It's gotta be rancid. Gotta be rancid. Nothing but beef and sparkling water three times a day. God damn lady. I hope you're not in a sharehouse and I hope you're not in the sharehouse. Her father is Jordan Peterson is the ultimate punchline to basically any story. But this is just fucking wild. Well yeah like her father is Jordan Peterson is the ultimate punch line to any story that is like there is no science to back this up. You see today he was supposed to go shit about the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit the to be to be the shit to be to be to be the shit to be to be to be the to be the shit the the th. th. th. th. thin' thin' thin' th. I thi. I thi's thi's thi. I thi the and I the and I the the and I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I hope. thi. I hope. I hope. I hope like, there is no science to back this up.

Oh, you see today he was supposed to go into shit about climate denial? Sure it was. Which he was getting dunked on by even his followers for, which is pretty cool. Excellent. Yeah, I like the people sort of insist that, you know, oh, well, he always falls back on the science, except for when he doesn't th.... the the the the the th.. the th. th. the th is the th is thus is the thus is the the thus is thus is the the thus. thus. thus. thus. thus is the thus is thi doesn't. Anyway folks, look you never established a crime pass Ben. I just flash your butthole at Wayne Knight. Oh so that was not the official crime pass I thought I was just being overruled with

the worst thing possible. You sounded like you had another idea. I mean you suggested it I think I don't recollect that being true. I remember you saying have the respect to shave the butt hole first. Oh, that's not. No, the crime pass for this week, which I think will only be explained theoretically if you listen to the bonus episode or if you are online, is you are allowed to break into Caleb Bod's house and steal his replica radio, these replica old-typey radio that he got for a steal, literally fucking steal

it, take it from his fucking god-dam, granny flat behind his parents' house. You're allowed to abduct Caleb Bond and force him into the, like the French foreign legion. No, nope. No, no, no. You're allowed to abduct Caleb the tho. And force, and force, and force, like, and force, like, and force, and force, like, and force, like, and force, and force, like, and force, and force, and force, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Bond and force him into the, like, the French foreign legion? Okay. Yeah, all right. I only got one guy though.

We're being reasonable. We're not kidnapping large groups of people and making them start new lives in the French foreign legion. We're not Boko Haram or anything. We're just, just one man. Wunder Vista. We are not, we are the the the the th. We are th. We are th. We are th. We are th. We are th. We are not th. We are not th. We are not the the or anything. We're just one man. Just one man. Puntavista, we are not Boko Haram. Oh, as always folks, you can get an extra bonus episode every god damn week from Patreon.com

forward slash Pontevista. Five American dollars per month. American dollars. They will not allow us to charge you an Australian clams. Yeah, there's been a lot of talk around, about my anthem rant. People are calling it the most incisive indictment of our times. Oh, we'll maybe chuck some links to those reviews in the podcast description. Yeah, I think so. They'll be in there. Right down the bottom. Don't look for him, they'll be right down the bottom. Yeah, but you'll be missing out if you're not over on the Patreon. You'll be missing

out on hearing about Theo, tell you just how fucking mad he is about the extraneous bits that have been inserted into the national anthem thin to the other 30 years. See I have a completely the whole thing. Theo's a big-time nationalist now. I have a massively different anthem rant and it's how much I fucking hated the book Anthem by Einrand. I'm not read it. It's the name of a book by Einran. Have you read it? Oh yeah I used to be a massive Unran fan. Oh that's right. You were a baby libertarian. You never remember? As we all were at one point, being a white man. Well, I assume Theo had entirely correct politics since he was born because he's a thousand times smarter than I am, but you and I were dumb as shit and definitely were wrong in the past and not now. Yeah, that's just a ride, man.

It is just a ride. Imagine if we were all just nice to each other. You know? I can't... My face is screwing up in a very ugly way. You know what? I'm going to drop this reference for the second time. I look like one of the members of the Lollipop Guild for the Wizard of Oz. God damn it, and it sucks how much last time it didn't work. I am thinking about the fucking Lollipop Guild 24-7. I hate those fucking screwed-up faces, ground-kicking, croaky voices, 50-year-old men disguised as children, bullshit fuckers, you know I don't even care if they've unionized.

Fuck the lollipopg. This take is ageist. It's probably able to somehow. Oh, so he gets to read about the anthem, but the moment I write about some people that are on screen for 30 seconds at a film that was made a thousand years ago, I'm unhinged. That's right. Your words. So yeah, that's where you can catch us for extra bonus episodes. And if you wanted to, you could buy some merchandise.

Bontavisisis.com slash merchandise. But if not, if you're just going to ignore that completely, then we'll see you next week. Thanks for joining us. Bye folks. Hey, later. Molly Popgkin can suck my dick.