Boonta Vista - EPISODE 62: Leadershit Struggles Pt. 1

Episode Date: August 27, 2018

Malcolm Turnbull isn't having a great week. Let Andrew, Ben & Lucy take you through it. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Pointe Vista episode 62.that's moving to Canada now. Oh boy. Yep. Lucy will probably move to America because that's where a boyfriend lives. That seems like a bad option, but okay? Well, you keep talking about how you prefer a country that's a little more right wing. I do keep saying that. And of course we also have Ben. Hi Ben. Hello. How's everybody holding up? It has frankly been a whirlwind of news. It's been a day. It's been a lot.

So I had to work doing news two nights that this was happening on and I was I sort of finished last night being like yeah I'm pretty on top of all of this and then I had a bunch of shit to do today where I couldn't really look at my phone and every time I did I was just like oh fuck yeah this is actually pretty confusing to keep track of unless you're being paid to stare at everything that happens every 30 seconds. There's a lot of moving parts. Well and the pace th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the pace the pace th the pace th the pace th th th the pace th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thus thus thus thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I thi, I thi, I thi thi thi thi thi th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the that that that that to that to that to that that that to to that that that that that that that that that the being paid to stare at everything that happens every 30 seconds. There's a lot going on, there's a lot of moving parts. Well, and the pace of things was accelerating to the point where things were being reported and then debunked by like the same media outlet in like under 30 minutes. Mmm. Oh boy, yeah, that happened a lot. So that was getting a little hard to deal with.

So the deal, folks, is that feeble-minded and pathetic weak, Bata Cuck, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, it looks like it's finally all over for him. Of course, earlier on in the week, we had an aborted attempt at a coup, but the threat was very real that it would be back and it came back and forced to date. So what we thought we might do is basically try and take you through a timeline of all of these ridiculous shenanigans. This might help a bit if you are an international listener, trying to understand what

the fuck has been happening. Because it's not easy to keep up with, it's not easy for us to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, and we, to be, to be, to be, to be, and we, to be, to be, and we, to be, and we's, to understand what the fuck has been happening. Because it's not easy to keep up with. It's not easy for us to keep up with and we're obliged to be interested. It's also very much worth noting that we're recording this on Thursday the 23rd. Yes. We will be releasing this episode on Monday, the whatever that is. The 20 plus days, 23rd plus days. Sure. I'm not even going to take a guess. There is a very real chance Australia has a different Prime Minister right now as you're listening to this.

Maybe two. Maybe there's been two over this weekend. So here's the plan, folks. We have a plan for this, and that is. I should say this is one of the rare times that something is happening is happening thiiiii, thii., thi., thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that is. Now I should say this is one of the rare times that something is happening or has almost finished happening just as we're recording or just about to record. We have a bit of a historical tendency to record an episode of the podcast and then like the very next day some very dramatic shit kicks off and then

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privy to that amongst other things. So with that said, we're going to try and take you through what has happened and where we're up to. Do you think maybe for the sake of international listeners, what we could do right now is say a sentence where we say what the name of the PM is, but we leave it blank, and then you can put it in in post? Yeah, so we can say, as, as as of as of th as of th... th. to to to th. to to th. to th. to to th. to th. to thi. to thi. to thi. thi. to to thi. to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi... We'll th. We'll th. We'll th. We'll th. We'll th. That's th. That's th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's thi. That's thi. That's thi. I to to to to to to to to to toe. We'll toe. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try.time that you are listening to this show, the Prime Minister of Australia is Scott Morrison and we're all feeling bad about it. Now see that's interesting because a lot of people thought that Peter Dutton was going to take the leadership.

But no, but no, um Peter Dutton? Was going to take the leadership? But no, um... Peter Dutton. Didn't. Can we make predictions and see who has psychic abilities? Ooh, okay, okay. But I think, all right, we're going to wheel around to this and give predictions at the end once we have set the scene. Yes, we should probably explain this.

So Ben, would you like to take us back to the peaceful past of like 72 hours ago? All right, so I'm going to start with an article that I wrote on, on the day I believe was Thursday of last week, where people were muttering about Dutton's PM. This is before a spill it happened. So I wrote this from a very sort of like broad, oh, people are talking about it, but nothing's definitely going to happen. There's whispers. Which, there's rumblings.

Immediately, after I published this, I, well the next morning I had to add an extra thing into there, another line being like, nope, I was completely wrong, which was a lot of fun. Well that's what proves that you're like a legit paid political commentator. So you wrote a piece and were immediately proven to be wrong. If anything, my pay should be doubled. Yeah, we can all agree on that. But the part of this was that was accurate and not speculation was that this was all happening because of the National Energy Guarantee, which is a piece of legislation that was going to be put forward or is still being put forward by the the termble government that was going to be put forward or is still being put forward by the Turnbull government

that was about defining our, in theory it's about lowering power prices but was also going to define climate change targets. Now originally this was going to deliver to put into legislation climate change targets that were in line with the Paris Agreement, Paris Accord, I hope that's called. Sure. But that crazy fucking notion of going through with the agreement that we agreed to through legislation was apparently too much for the conservative wing of the party, who took immense umbrage with this and started threatening revolt so much that the Paris targets were removed and

then eventually all legislated targets were removed from it. Well they were threatening to cross the floor and vote against it which is like very unheard of for liberal party members. And it's worth noting as well, I mean, again, for the international listeners, by this point, like conservatives have been, I guess, you know, the most right-wing conservatives from the already conservative party have been opposing any kind of action on climate change so vehemently for so long that it is basically completely fucked up the energy market in Australia

it's fucked up the energy market to a point where like large corporations are just begging the government to just have a policy on what the country'sthe government to just have a policy on what the country's approach is to to emissions and approaches the development of renewable energy and stuff like that because basically none of these companies can get any kind of investment going from anybody because nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen.

So you know you have your large corporates begging the government to just make a choice and stick to it, to just set some kind of direction. And then in like polling people, I think it's, you know, over 65% of Australians think that we need to take some kind of definitive action to help mitigate climate change, even if that we need to take some kind of definitive action to help mitigate climate change even if that comes at significant cost, such as the raising of taxes and that kind of thing. And it's also a majority of liberal party voters. So I think it's like over 55 or 60 percent of liberal party voters say we want the

party to put forward a credible policy on this issue. So again, it's not a thing where you know there's there seem to be these people who think that there's this massive conservative base that's going to completely abandon the coalition if they ever put forward some sort of emissions target or anything like that. But it's just not the case. The case is that the majority of the country is so fucking sick of this thing that's been going on for the better part of a decade since Julia Gillard introduced their carbon emission

scheme. And people are just fucking sick of it. They just want the country to just move forward at some point. And it's a small minority of super-conservatives within the already right-wing party that are just, they would, well, as we're seeing evidence of now, they would clearly rather tank the party than do that. Anyway. I'd already like to issue a correction. Oh, go. When I said that this was from Thursday, I meant that this was from Monday.

I worked very hard this week. It felt very long ago. So it's important. Well, everything we're talking about feels so long ago already, even if it's from like 12 hours ago. There's been so much news. So it's important noting that this was on Monday, that this happened, because another thing happened on Monday,

which was that Hugh Rimmington from Channel 10, a fantastic name, published an article saying that they had consulted a number of constitutional law professors and come to the conclusion that Peter Dutton might potentially be in breach of subsection V of section 44 of the Australian Constitution. Section 44, everyone will recall, is the one under which everyone that had dual citizenship was given the boot from Parliament.

Section 44V relates to people having financial interests that directly benefit from Commonwealth money. And the... Well, there's a very recent example of somebody being disqualified over this as well. Yes. Bob Day, is that his name? Yep, Bob Day, a little hyper-Christian gnome. From Family First, and his example is particularly good, because I can't remember the specifics of it, but he benefited in that he was party to a trust that was receiving money from the Commonwealth. Well he, he, I think him and his wife, or he owned the wife, he, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, thi, thi, is, is thi, is thi, is thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi, is, is, is thi, is thi, is, is thy th. th. th, is, is, is th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the thi, the the the thi, the the thi, the the the the thi. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, party to a trust that was receiving money from the Commonwealth. Well he, he, I think him and his wife or he owned a like a stake in or the entirety of like a

small shopping center with a post office and they were receiving government money like they they had government contracts through this thing. Oh, they owned like a news agent that had a government contract as a post office or something like that? So they were directly receiving government money via things that he had an influencing vote on. So that's more or less what they're arguing that the situation with Dutton is. So his family has a family trust that is run by his wife. They own two child care centers in Brisbane.

That as of July this year, there was a law change, which Dutton voted in favor of that meant that instead of child care payments going directly to the parents who are taking their kids to child care, it goes to the parents who are taking their kids to child care, it goes to the child care center. It goes directly to child care centers on behalf of the parents. Yes, so it's not clear-cut how this is going to go, particularly because of that reason because it is on behalf of the parents so it's kind of weird. But a number of people have come out and been like, well, fuck, they've got a pretty good case.

Uh, I guess if we're doing this chronologically-severalogically. Several statements over the course of the week, yes. That he has received advice that he is completely fine and, you know know released the advice that he's been given which journalists have immediately looked at and said this is from August last year this you know they've looked at it and said this thing is already out of date and refers to two laws that are no longer active yeah it's gone great so yeah it's not going fantastically for him at this point, but the thing with being Section 44 is, unless it's within the first 60 days of an election, Parliament needs to

refer a matter to the High Court. So it needs to be voted on, and the government has a majority of one currently. So there is no reason why they would vote to send it to the High Court and today they did do that vote and they won by one vote. So it is currently not going to be looked at by the High Court, which is the only thing that would actually mean that he has to be kicked out. So basically the only other way this can be resolved is at election time it can be referred to the high court by anyone. I don't know if it's referred to the high court but at least it has to be

investigated at the time to sort out his eligibility. So even if it doesn't get resolved now, it will be, the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi thi the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi, thi thi that is that, tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th. th is that is that is that is the only the only the only the the only the only the the the the the the the the theee the thee o' the o' the o' the o'e o'e o' the o' the o' the the th be investigated at the time to sort out his eligibility. So even if it doesn't get resolved now, it will get resolved at the next election. And wouldn't that be hilarious? I mean there's so many things that could go wrong for Darden here. Couldn't happen to a worse bloke. Couldn't happen to a bigger piece of shit. He could, yeah he could not win the leadership ballot, it's a very real possibility. He could win the leadership ballot and then immediately be disqualified after taking the party to the next election, or he could win the leadership ballot, take the party to the next election, lose the election, or he could win the leadership ballot, take the party to the next election, lose the election, or he could win the leadership ballot, take the party to the next election and lose his own seat.

Which is also a very real possibility, because apparently he only has a margin of what equates to about 3,000 votes in his own seat. Wow. It's almost like people don't like him. Oh yeah in the preferred leadership positions I'm pretty sure at the moment it's like, tumbill's the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th thles tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' the to to to to to to to to to to the theateateateateateateateateate. And lose to lose to lose tho- tho-s tho-s the. And lose the. the. the the to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their the preferred leadership positions, I'm pretty sure at the moment, it's like, Turnbull's still on top, then shorten, then dutton. Yeah. Why would you do this? Why would you think that you're going to win the election with this guy? Julie Bishop always rates higher than him as a preferred PM, doesn't she? I think so. Sure it actually. Yeah, may have.

Pretty sure. Apparently he has more of an issue with not even like people in his own electorate and not even knowing who he is. But that's a whole lot of kettle fish. We've got a lot of kettles that are full of fish. So the morning after this, uh, after I left on the note of, well, maybe something will happen, but probably not. So, Tuesday morning, first thing, Turnbull calls a party room meeting and announces the leadership vacant, forcing a spill, which was a strategic decision because he'd noticed the rumblings of a challenge and essentially was done so that people, Dutton didn't have time to galvanize support for himself.

So he calls it out of nowhere, Dutton hasn't had time to rally the troops and he loses, uh, is a 45 to 38? Yeah, yeah, and I believe that was still being cast as a disaster for turnbull. Because people were saying, you know, if you're calling a leadership challenge deliberately to give this person no time to organize to move against you, and you still almost come up 50-50. It's an extremely bad look for you. It really doesn't vote well. It's not great.

Also, again, for international listeners, we're going to be talking to you a lot in this episode. I just want you to try and imagine the concept of waking up one morning and being like, oh, we don't have a leader anymore. And then 15 minutes later later that is just over and we're kind of the issue has been dealt with. Yes, and we've done this many times. We've had six, is it fucking six prime ministers in eight years? It's I think? It's some fucking insane number.

Like in our, well at least in my voting lifetime, no prime minister has gone to a full term. That's the one that I keep thinking about is the the the thiiii thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that like that like that like that like that like that like that like, that like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the thi, the the the the the the that, the the the that, the that, that, that, that, that that that That's the one that I keep thinking about, is the thing that I was seeing saying that like anyone under 25, and I think it's more like anyone under 28, 29, has never voted for a prime minister, or has never voted for a party that has had its Prime Minister sit for the full term. I saw this on ABC News' Twitter feed. a party that has had its prime minister sit for the full term. I saw this on ABC News' Twitter feed and it said, like nobody of that age has ever voted for a PM that's gone a full term and the like the entire list of replies was just people all pedantically going. You don't vote for the prime minister, you vote for your local representatives. Oh God. Yeah, we fucking know.

It's all fucking, I don't know, someone was doing about this, but like, it's all well and good that yes, technically we don't vote for the leader, but we still try and do campaigns based on the leader, you know, like the way that the parties present themselves to voters is with that leader as the figurehead. There is sort of the promise that that's what you're voting for. I mean that's how it's understood. Well it is this person who is guiding the team of people. Yeah. And yeah, you really can't help throughout all of this stuff. But be overwhelmed by the sensation that there's just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the the the the leader, is the the leader, is the the leader, is the leader, is the leader, is the leader, is the the leader, is the the the leader, is the leader, is the leader, is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thea, thiiiiia, is, is, is, is, thia, is, is, is, is, is, is throughout all of this stuff, but be overwhelmed by the sensation that there's just no one at the wheel.

Like, yeah, you can't, it's impossible to come away with anything but the feeling that the only shit that's going on is the behind the scenes machinations about who gets to be the boss and who gets to be the leader and who's undercutting who and all that sort of shit. Because if the leader of a political party never manages to get through like one term, then how do you ever get the impression that like a political party is actually just attempting to prosecute an agenda for a single term of government? Yeah. Because like people traditionally have had that whole thing about like, you know, Australian governments and American presidents of, like, part of the whole

reason that people are usually supposed to be pretty hard to beat as the incumbent after their first term, is because of this general perception that you kind of need to give people some time to get some stuff done. That you need to give people a bit of time to like make some policies or enact some laws or whatever, and then give them some time to start working because that's how long this kind of shit takes takes takes takes takes takes takes takes takes takes ta ta ta th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their thi. thr-n. thr-n. thr-n'-n'-a'-n'-n'eooomr-n'eoomb-a'e. their their their their their this kind of shit takes. And if people are never getting through more than like two years as a leader and then someone else comes in and says, ah now I've got to make a bunch of knee-jerk policy changes to prove that I'm a different person to them, then yeah you just you just have this idea of a boat with no hand on the till, not heading in any direction for any particular reason or with any particular purpose. And you know, you only got to look at what happened to Julia Gillard when she rolled Kevin

Rudd because her entire explanation was, ah, you know, the country was headed in the wrong direction under his leadership. Things were going the wrong way, you know, we were doing the wrong things policy-wise. And she had that interview with, I want to say say say say say say say say say say say say say say say say say say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say the to say to say the to say to say to say to say the to say to say to to to to to to to to to their their their to their to to their to their to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And, and you. And, and you. And, to to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their their their their the.e.e.e.u. their, the. their, their, their way, you know, we were doing the wrong things policy-wise. And she had that interview with, I want to say, Lee Sales, like 12 months after she, after she rolled him. And Lee Sales was just like, so you said that the whole reason that you did this was because he was like steering everybody wrong in terms of like policy in the direction the country was going. And you've kept all the policies the same and just kept doing the same thing. What's up with that? And it was never a good look.

She never, she never kind of adequately explained, oh, it was because Kevin Rudd was a massively egomoniical,aving, lunatic piece of shit. Which I think people would have been perfectly happy to hear, frankly. Yeah, I know I would have. I would like to issue my second correction of the evening. When I said that the vote went 45 to 38, I meant to say it went 48 to 35, which is still a pretty close margin. Especially with no notice.

Dutton needs to get 43 votes to win, I believe. So obviously not a huge margin of error there. So that happened. Turnbull very narrowly won the spill, which obviously did not bowed particularly well. Turnbull offered Dutton the opportunity to keep his job because he is a massive cuck, which is a theme that will run quite strongly throughout all this. Dutton declined, so he resigned from his position as the Minister for Home Affairs and moved to the backbench. The Minister for

Strategic Nazism. Yep, that one. And then not a whole lot happened that afternoon. The ballot is a secret one, so it wasn't immediately obvious. Who had voted which way, although in most cases it was pretty obvious. Then, that afternoon in that evening, we got something that was sort of always going to happen. Uh, people started resigning from their positions on the front bench. we got something that was sort of always going to happen. People started resigning from their positions on the front bench and it was largely a bunch of people that no one had heard of before. Yes they kept announcing them and the general reaction was who? Same I was like who are these people? But that's it well

well actually I want to I want to give a special shout out to Zed Ciselger, who is a big piece of shit. He's a big piece of shit. Fuck off. Fuck that guy. Get out of here. Yeah, and again, it's sort of worth noting that's The convention is that the, the leadership vote is secret. It's a secret ballot.

But the convention is also supposed to be that if you voted against your own leader, that that is you saying that you don't have confidence in them to be the leader, and the honorable thing to do is to step down if you're in a leadership position like a ministry and cabinet. So some of them started doing that? Yes, this is the list that I wrote down as of that evening. There are a few people that were rumored to have done it but it was never confirmed. It's also worth noting that people don't resign. They offer their resignation to the, then it is up to the PM to accept

their resignation. And he was like refusing to accept people's resignations, wasn't it? So Dunn offered and Turnbull accepted, so he officially resigned. Then we had resignations from International Development and the Pacific Minister, Conchetta Ferravanti Wells. Now she's a fucking piece of shit. Well, she? Really?

Her resignation was... She was burning all her bridges. She, like, said, the party had gone to left wing. She hated what they were doing. There's basically no way she was going to stay in the party after this one. The rest of them were like, more not that. We had... Well the other ones were much more like, oh I must do the honorable thing now and resign. Yes. And hers was like... Fuck yours, I'm out of here.

Ah, you allowed the queers to get married. Oh, that's right. Yeah. She highlighted the same six marriage as the turning point for when the party started going down the toilet. Well, I read a few pieces talking about her that were essentially just reiterating like how delusional the hard right wing of that party is. Because, you know, they act as though, you know, like all the various right-wing people who've raised protests about Turnbull have all, you, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the, tho, the party, the, the, the, started, started, the, the, the, the, the, the, started, than, started, thaned, thaned, thaned, thaned, thaned, started, thaned, thaned, started, th an th an th an th an th an th an th an th an th an thaned, than, than, than, than, than, than, that, that, started, the party, started, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, that, that, that all the various right-wing people who've raised protests about Turnbull have all sort of said, oh, you know, we're being shut out of the party and our voices aren't being listened to and we're not being given consideration.

But the only thing that's been happening within that party is Turnbull tanking the party to the right to capitulate to these people on every possible consideration just so that they don't turf him out. Yeah it's like the Corey Bernardi quitting the party because the party wasn't right-wing enough while the conservative the party including Corey were basically holding the entire party to hostage the whole time that they were there. Well in in um what's an name? Feververanti. Fierrante Wells, it's Italian. In her resignation, in her resignation letter, the various things she cited as, you know, concerns about things that had gone too far left wing. It was like the same-sex marriage debate, the National Energy Guarantee, and it was one

other thing. I can't remember what it was. But the National Energy Guarantee was the only one of the things that she mentioned that Turnbull had actually attempted to act on. And even then, before she resigned, he had already stripped out everything that the right wing of the party had found objectionable. Like that was, I think that was what people saw as kind of ceding the last of his authority, was as he turned around and said, oh, okay, well, we'll remove absolutely any and all commitments to reducing our emissions, which made

people go, what the fuck is the point of having a policy then? So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the, the, the, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the right, the the the the the the right, the the the the the the right, the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thea, thea, what the fuck is the point of having a policy then? So yeah, the only examples that he had, he had basically just continued to prosecute the same hard bright line as his predecessor Tony Abbott, and the one thing that he did do, he also totally rolled over on and gave them what they wanted anyway. So it's nothing to do with the Conservatives not being listened to it. It's just that they want something that they can't have, which is for the Prime Minister and all other politicians in the entire country to say, yes, your world view of the past that everyone has moved on from is still valid. Yeah.

Anyway, so yes, the resignations continue to roll in. everyone has moved on from is still valid. Yeah. Anyway. So yes, the resignations continue to roll in. Of course all of this was made all the better by a constant parade of all of these backstabbing shitheels being asked either in question time or in Senate question time, whether or not they still supported the Prime Minister and we're going to vote against him. And one after the other, they all stood up and said, the prime minister thion thiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the. the. their the. that that that that the. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi. thi. their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that th. that that that that that that that that that that the the the the that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the ththe prime minister and we're going to vote against him and one after the other they all stood up and said the prime minister has my support and I will not move against him before about 12 hours later handing in their resignation and call them a dog cut. Just what a parade of snakes.

What a big parade of fucking dips shit. Why the fuck would you bother? That's what I don't understand. Like I'm sure it's just a, you know, a politics thing. But I genuinely don't understand. Surely all of these people had either already voted against him in a spill and we're pretty sure he was toast anyway or were, we're intending to tender their resignation within 12 hours or whatever. If you were being put on the spot, you know, in Parliament or in the Senate, or in a media interview or whatever, what gain is there for any of these people to just openly lie to the Australian public about it, knowing full well that within the span of 24 hours they're going to the Australian public about it, knowing full well, that within the span of

24 hours they're going to turn around and give a public statement to the contrary. It's and it's nuts. None of them are held accountable to it. Like, fucking, if you look at Dutton's last two tweets, they're like, I stand with the PM and then the next one is, I'm I'm doing another leadership spell. Yeah, like all of them. Like, well, we'll get to it, but Scott Morrison as well, Matthias Corman. Oh, actually, I'm just gonna, because this is,

I'm skipping slightly ahead in the timeline because fucking, where is it? So, this is relatively inconsequential. It's just fucking, the the the the thinele of thinele of thiiiiiiolele of thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, th So this is from, I believe at some point, was he a defense minister, Jim Molen? Yes, he was, I think. So, Alice Workman. Jim Mollman. Alice Workman was reporting on him saying that he released a statement on his Facebook where he said across like seven paragraphs that he voted for Peter Dutton but he's now backing the Prime Minister.

And then she said she added an update to it saying, okay, so Jim Mollin's office called me to clarify his statement. He will support the Prime Minister until there is another challenge, then he will vote for Dunn again. It's so good, these people are just fucking... They're just cooked. Why bother with any of this? You all get paid so much money, like just write it out till the next election.

Why do they care this much? I saw, I saw like, you know, an off-the-record comment from some minister who was distraught about this saying, oh we're going to lose the next election. And these are all people, you know, referring to ministers and stuff, these are all people who've set up a life for themselves and bought houses and stuff on the expectation that they're going to be earning, you know, over $250,000 a year. It's like, oh, how about fuck each and every one of them? Oh, it's so bad. These people are the fucking words. I was, um, I was having a little bit of argy-bargy with someone online just, just prior to this. Friend of the show, Liam Hogan, had made reference to, uh, ABC journalist.

Is she ABC journalist, Annabel Crab? Yeah. Yeah. Who posted a suite saying all of those ministers who've resigned, you know, all of their staff have lost jobs today. You've really got to feel bad for them. I was like, man, fuck all those people. Get fucked. This whole idea that like in the midst of, in the midst of the government just completely abandoning even the pretense that they have an interest in governing the country, that the people were supposed to feel sorry for, the fucking snakes who go and work for Michaelia Cash. Like, just ridiculous, you know. And yeah,

Liam Hogan had made reference to this saying, hey if you feel a lot of sympathy for the staffers, go and stick your head in a big bucket of water, you fucking idiot. And he had a bit of a salty reply from somebody who had very clearly previously been a staffer in an office, saying, have you ever been a staffer? To which Liam said, yes. It was like, well, it's lots of anxiety. You know, you've got to feel some sympathy for these people.

I was just like, do you, you know, we all take some responsibility. I mean, like, there's a difference between working for a government department, in which case the department will continue to function regardless of who is the minister. People at the highest level of the department will have to interact with the minister who will give them policy direction and it is their job to enact it. If you work in a department and you feel conflicted enough about what is happening, for example, if you would work at Australian Border Force, which is now home affairs, which enact policies which, if they are not internationally illegal, are deeply immoral,

I know people who've worked there and have stopped working there as a result of no longer wanting to contribute to that in any way. That's one thing. If you are a staffer for the political officers of one of these ministers, if you work for Peter Dutton, if you work for Michaela Cash as a staffer who has been directly hired by them, you are giving material support to an agenda that either aims to demonize refugees and foreigners and people who were born somewhere else or whose parents were born somewhere else, or you are actively working to give material support to stripping workplace rights across this country, then fuck you.

Fuck you, and your life can get worse for all I give is shit. Like, how, why are they the people who are deserving of sympathy in this? I don't fucking understand. I don't understand why there are these certain professions like political staffers or, I'm trying to think of some other examples which always come to mind, but like, just these professions where we're all supposed to give this allowance of like complete abdication of moral responsibility, yet when something goes wrong for these people, we're also supposed to say, oh, they're humans and we should

feel bad for them. Like, you know, I understand everybody's got to make a living, but it's a fucking niche career. It's a niche career that people work towards, and you're probably from a pretty fucking privileged background if you can wind up being a high-level staffer for a minister and a Tory government anyway. Yeah. well that's fine I'm going to actively work for you know to help Michaela Cash's office like tip off the media to police raids against union officers but also if that person gets the sack you meant to say oh no he might have had kids fuck that guy man we all make choices at a certain point you've got to have

some responsibility for what you are actively seeking out to do with your life and who you're giving material support to to do it. Fucking ridiculous. So I was steamed about that. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I mean we all like we all make choices, you know, we've all had our own conversations about places. the places we've worked for and all that sort of thing like I... I... you know, I've, you know, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to their own conversations about the places we've worked for and all that sort of thing. Like, I, you know, I've spent whatever chunk of my career working in like graphic design and shit like that. And I've always said with stuff like that, you know, I wouldn't work for, say, a company

that did all the graphics for fucking pokey machines. I just wouldn't do it. That's a choice that I'm willing to make. It'd be so fun though you could do the hot chili guy. Imagine if you go, oh I was playing the hot chili one the other day. More chili, more chili, that's it. More chili he says when the little feature goes off. Yes. Almost definitely racist. Well Elner and I were in an RSL on the weekend because we were at the coast. And I decided to have my once every six month put $20 into a pokey and see what happens. And I won like 50 or 60 bucks or something, which paid for dinner and a bunch of drinks, and then we left. And that's the privilege of not having a gambling problem, I guess. Yes. But you do have to work off the basis of, got to find the the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most to find the most the most the most the most the most the most the most to find the most the most the most to find to find to to to the most to the most the most the most the most thi-coce-cant, because because because to to thi-a thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-c. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the most. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the most, the most the most thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. the-s. the-se-sea-sea-sea-s. thea-s. thea-s. thea-s. the. the. that's the privilege of not having a gambling problem I guess. Yes. But you do have to work off the basis of got to find the most

racist machine. Obviously. And there's a lot of choices. So many choices. But yeah man like you got choices. I I you know was friends with a guy and he contacted me at some point and he was like, I'm having a bit of a quandary. And he used to do like action script, right? The now defunct flash programming language. And he worked for a very big advertising agency. And so he was kind of stuck with the job of maintaining all

of these kind of legacy flash ads and stuff they would still use like flash banner ads for things and one of the contracts that came through was for the fucking banner ads for the border force campaign that they were running that said you will never settle in Australia with the stormy background in the boat and stuff you know? I forget someone actually made that they were running that said, you will never settle in Australia with the stormy background and the boat and stuff, you know? I forget someone actually made that, you know, someone not from the government made that shit. Well, they made, they made posters, they made trailers that they ran in cinemas in other countries. They did too. To say, don't fucking come here. No Browns in this country, I would say with these ads. He said me thinking, he was just like, yeah, so I got this thing through and I'm, I'm

meant to like, make a bunch of these banner ads based off this thing. And I don't want to do it. And I said, don't do it. So just like let them, you know, if you can, let him know I'm extremely against this thing. I don't want to work on it, find someone else to do it. And he said, all right, I'm gonna give that a go. And he talked to his bosses and said, I don't want to work on this thing. And they said, okay, we'll came back to me and he was like, yeah, so it turns out they gave it to another team and the other team said, fuck this, we don't want to work on it. And then they tried to get another team to work on it.

That team said, fuck this, we don't want to work on this. And it went back up through the contract and said, turns out the company doesn't want the money that bad. And I was like, cool. Hey, it's almost like you can try to exercise some choice about this sort of thing. You don't just get this magical fucking pass to say, oh, well, that's just the industry I'm in. You've got to do what you told. Yeah, I think there's levels of this. Absolutely. There are some jobs you can accept because everyone's got to have money,

but when you're like actively working to do fucking shitty racist things, probably not ideal. If you're, if you're like, you know, running around fucking, like actively facilitating Peter Dutton doing his job going from interview to interview demonizing Sudanese refugees on the fucking Ray Hadley show or whatever if you're making it easier for him to do that job directly then fuck you you're making some very specific choices and as I said I I would be so fucking shocked if there was anyone in any of those sorts of jobs

who was like, I've worked so hard ever since I was a little kid, I worked five jobs to put myself through school so that I could get to this thing and it's been a lifelong dream and now I'm doing it, you want to take that away from me? You can be almost fucking guaranteed that anyone in a fucking Tory office working for someone like Peter Dunnell, Macaulay cash is out of some Sydney boys private school bullshit. Got the job due to connections and all that sort of shit. Maybe it's not true for everyone, but honestly. Like I said, fuck those people man, fuck them.

They're the absolute last person that should get anybody's sympathy about what the outcome of this kind of shit is. Yep. Strong agree. Yes. Sorry, Ben, for diverting us all a bit. That is fine. I think that puts us at Wednesday evening.

Oh my goodness. Oh my God. So, hang on let me just look at where I am. So by Wednesday evening, Peter Dunton is like confirming that he intends to challenge again once he's gathered the numbers, right? Not yet. Oh, all right, so we've had all those resignations. At this point, none of them have been accepted. Dutton's has been accepted.

Uh, in theory, Conchetta Ferreventi-Welz's hasn't been officially accepted, but it's almost definite that she's not coming back just because of the way the circumstance, thethe circumstance that she did it under. So we've had a bunch of resignations. Um, Scomo and, uh, Matias Corman have come out in support of the PM in the morning. There not much happens that day except because things have died down a little bit, more scrutiny is put on, um, uh on the potential, his Section 44 breach. Turnbull addresses it by saying that Peter Dutton has assured him that his legal advice says that he's sound. The attorney general has come out and said that he believes that the

matter should be referred to the solicitor general for advice. The attorney general has come out and started to do like the back and forth thing with his hand out flat going, yeah. I mean, that's more or less what he's done. So the Solicitor General only provides advice on the issue that is not the same as referring it to the High Court, who actually have the power to do something about it, so it's still all a bit tenuous. But then at about five o'clock is when things start happening. So there are two tweets that come out within about 10 minutes of each other that are the sign that something is happening. The first one is from

Alan Jones which should be taken as a grain of salt, with a grain of salt because he will just say anything that the Conservative wing of the Liberal Party wants him to. So he at 613 says, get ready, party room meeting tonight. Goodbye Malcolm, who doesn't have the numbers. A bunch of journalists will like, no liberal MPs I have spoken to know anything about this. And the Whips office doesn't know anything about it. Six minutes later, Alice Workman, dear friend of the show, tweets, Tony Abbott was just spotted in workout gear running through Parliament in the direction of his office,

with two suited staffers running alongside, looking a bit panicked, tweeted without comment. So what it turns out was happening was that a petition was being circulated around Liberal MPs to try and force a party room meeting. So this requires 43 signatures. And it also requires Turnbull to see it and to say yes. He has to agree to it. He still has to call the meeting. So all night, lots of people are getting fired up being like, oh, it's all happening. Blah, blah, blah. It's all happening. But by like 7.30, the reports are that it's still in the single digits. One of a liberal MP involved said they'd seen it

and it was at about nine signatures before they left the building. Oh my God. Chris Allman, piece of shit, got the wording of the petition. It opened with dear Prime Minister, we the undecided request that you call a a meeting of the joint house It opened with, Dear Prime Minister, we, the undersigned, request that you call a meeting of the Joint House Parliamentary Liberal Party as soon as practicable, practicable, practicable, and whatever, for the purpose of determining the leadership of the party, and then nothing. So a bunch of Liberal MPs keep leaving, reporters are asking them, oh, did you sign a petition, is it happening tonight? And a bunch of liberal MPs keep leaving. Reporters are asking them, oh, did you sign a petition? Is it happening tonight? And a bunch of them are just like, what petition? What are you talking about?

Later that evening, let me just see if I can find the wording, but I think Rob Harris was tweeating about how he heard that the Liberal Party Whips office got complaints from four different female MPs saying that they felt like they had been intimidated into giving their support for Dutton, which is a tiny bit terrifying. Yeah, I think a few more of those things came out as well. There have been individual reports coming out from different people saying just like some real standover tactic shit and I was like, please get out. Yeah, it's a bit rough. And then, so nothing else happens last night, Wednesday night, and then we wake up in the

morning and a whole bunch of even more senior liberal figures handed their resignation. Oh, actually one more thing does happen on Wednesday night. James McGra, who tended his resignation on Tuesday night, tenders it again, and this time turn will accept. So him and Dutton become the first two people whose resignations have actually been accepted. Well, I believe McGraw kept insisting that his resignation be accepted. Yes.

Hey, just for your, just your context context everybody, James McGraw there's a big piece of shit because he is someone who had to resign from a Boris Johnson campaign in the late 2000s for being too racist. It's so amazing I saw that posted by a friend of the show Pat Caruana and I thought that was him doing one of his little bits thinking that it was just somebody else with the same name. Click through? It's exactly the same guy. Sure is. And I believe Pat might even be a wife of the show.

Oh, goodness gracious. I didn't even know that he listened. I just sort of said that in the sense of, we like him as a person. We love him very much. Uh, yeah. And then, so then so then so then so then so then so then so then so then so that, so that, so that, so that, so that, so that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. that that and then so that leads us to this morning when let me see who are the extremely senior people that ended up residing. Bloody. God damn it. I can't believe it was. Yeah tod it. Yeah today you mean. Yeah today. Matthias Corman, Michaelia Cash and Mitch Firefield. Yeah there we go. Oh and Big Mitch Firefield as well. Yeah, Fyfeel sucks. How does a lover of the show? Oh my goodness. Thank you for clarifying. Sorry I'm just checking it out.

All right so we had a bunch more resignations. Turnbull has come out and said that he will only call the party room meeting that will surely spell his demise if he sees a piece of paper with all 43 signatures on it. And we have not seen that yet, that has not happened. Also, no politicians. Well, apparently, the, the, the, the... the... the... the... the the... the... the... the... the... the... the the... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the. Uh, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the-huh, the-huh, the-huh, the-huh, the-in... the-uh, the the the the the the the not seen that yet that has not happened. There's just no politicians. Well apparently the the word towards the end of today was that Dutton's camp had a petition with so several different people described it as things such as the number has a three in front of it, high 30s but we definitely have the numbers and you know we can definitely get to get the things and you know we can definitely get to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the wa the wel. well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well, well. Well, well, well, well, well, well, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. We can can't they. We can't they. I they. I they. I they. I they. Well, they. Well, they. Well, they. Well, they. Well, they. as the number has a three in front of it. High 30s, but we definitely have the numbers and you know we can definitely get to 43

or whatever. But I think the deal is, I could be wrong, but I think the deal is that basically they've got 30-something signatures, like the similar to the number of people who voted for him in the first bill. There are other people who do not have confidence in Turnbull but they don't want to put their name on the thing either because it's supposed to be a secret ballot and they don't want to fucking sign a thing or or that they do want to f-sign their thing or or that they do want there to be a leadership ballot or challenge or whatever, but they don't want the implication that they're supporting Dutton in his efforts.

Which is why he can't quite get over the line to that. So I think towards the end of the day that the speculation was either that they are extremely close to getting over the line or they may well do so? Isn't it happening tomorrow? Isn't there something something something something something something something something something something the the the the the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication?.. I the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? I the implication? the implication? I the implication? I the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the implication? th? th? thi? tho? tho? tho? tho? thooo? thooooooo? their their the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication the implication? the implication? the implication? the implication? th end of the day that the speculation was either that they are extremely close to getting over the line or they may not happen tomorrow. Isn't there something about tomorrow? It's the deadline that he's given it. Yeah, but it hasn't, they don't have the numbers yet. Um, at about 8 o'clock this evening, uh, Zed, Cicelja said that there is a roundabout the required names on the petition. Now, can I just interject here and say that Scott Morrison, former former Border Patrol minister and all that sort of shit and current treasurer, has put his hand up and said he will contest the leadership, of course 24 hours after saying that he absolutely would not be contesting the leadership. But I think some of the speculation is that Turnbull is doing this whole thing of saying, show me the signatures, get section 44 clearance on Dutton, I'm not going to do anything until

Friday afternoon. He's doing all of this in a bid to buy time for Scott Morrison to try and muster up the votes for himself. So I don't know if the theory is that if Turnbull is going to lose the leadership he at least wants to lose it to both an ally and a moderate as opposed to giving the party over to the right-wing nut jobs. Yeah. Julie Bishop has also put her hand up and said I will be contesting the leadership. It was rumored that Tony Abbott had put his th up th th will be contesting the leadership. It was rumored that Tony Abbott had put his hand up as well, but that got shot down almost

immediately. So that was the one within half an hour, the same outlook was saying, oh, actually, no. I thought we were talking about Tony again. That was when, that was the half hour. Is that the half hour we were talking about Tony. Well, that that that that that was that was that was that was that was th he he Well, here's the thing to remember about Tony, is that he is an absolute lying cut. Maybe he's going to pull something swifty. So who knows?

Like, he's also made a statement or answered a question from the media saying that he's not going to be given a ministry in any Peter Dutton-led government, which of course is absolute horshit. He's plotting something. He's a snake. So given that everybody in this scenario is telling bald-faced lies to Parliament and also to the press before immediately proving it to be a big lie like 12 to 24 hours later, I don't think you can really take anything that anyone's saying in face value at this point. So it's also teenage. I can't believe this is like the reality of Australian politics.

It's a joke. This is the reality of our 50 to 60 year old leaders. So Julie Bishop has also thrown her fascinator in the ring. Oh, nice. Thank you. And once again, I became furious this afternoon, seeing like all of these allegedly sort of progressive type labor supporting middle-aged women going, oh, Julie Bishop's going to go for it.

And I hope she gets it. You go, girl. You show them who's boss. And I was like, fuck Julie Bishop's going to go for it and I hope she gets it. You go girl, you show them who's boss and I was like, fuck Julie Bishop man. What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah, exactly. It was just that stupid shit where it's just like, why the fuck would you wish anything good for her? She would put you in a fucking sack and throw you into the ocean if she thought to win her like 10 votes from conservatives or whatever. And that is how our electoral system works.

Yes. It's got to be able to haul a good sack. Like, again, for context, Julie Bishop is somebody who before entering her political career was an industrial relations lawyer. Yep, she's rich as shit. Yep, and she used to represent the James Hardy Corporation. Oh, is that the asbestos one? Yes, they are best known in Australia for poisoning thousands of workers with asbestos

and letting them die slow deaths while refusing to pay them compensation. And part of the strategy, when, I'll tell you what, I'm going to put a great big, um, allegedly in front of just in case I'm wrong about any of it or whatever, or we're getting done for Defa or whatever. But yes, as far as I know, the story goes, that she was representing James Hardy at the time and part of the legal strategy was to draw it out for long enough that the complainants died of their asbestos poisoning before they could get compensation. That'll do it. So that's the caliber of person you're willing into the leadership here. And again, this is someone who has been deputy leader uncontested under the last three leaders

of the party. Clearly, you know, biting her time for the perfect moment to try and jump in. And I would say exactly the same shit about her as I would about like staffers for Dutton's office or whatever. How the fuck you're gonna act like she deserves any kind of respect or anything like that when her job for the last however long has been to prop these people up and help them and act these fucking awful agendas. But she's a woman Andrew. Well that's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same. And I I I I the same the same the same. the same the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I's the. I's the. I's that the. I's that that that the. I's that that that that that that thendas. But she's a woman, Andrew. Well that's it. It's her turn.

I'm with her. She's the most qualified candidate in the history of the Liberal Party. Honestly, it's just some absolutely fucking cooked shit. So who knows who will be the Prime Minister? Who wants to guess? I'm with Tony. Tony? Well, you're always with Tony, I, they, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm them, I'm them, I'm them, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, Who wants to guess? I'm with Tony. Well, you're always with Tony, aren't you? I mean, if they're all going to be pieces of shit, I'd rather have someone who is just openly a fucking piece of shit

than like some Snide, Malcolm Turnbull, mothucker. I think... My gut feeling about it, and I could be totally wrong, my gut feeling about it is that like the hard right part of the party isn't big enough. No, I don't think so. to support Peter Dutton all the way through. And that's borne out by the fact that the only thing he wants to do is exactly what Tony Abbott was already doing.

And that did not go well. You know, they fucking turfed him out of the party in under two years. And it could be argued that even Tony Abbott has more charisma than Peter Dutton. So I kind of feel like... Well, I kind of feel like Peter Dutton has unwittingly been the Trojan horse for the leadership challenge. I feel like he's kind been kinded in in in in in in in in in in in in in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the party the party the party to the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the party the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Trojan horse for the leadership challenge. I feel like he's kind of been goaded into gunning for this. Like I feel like the best case scenario for Peter Dutton is that he gets to be the leader for a couple of months until an election and

then they get death slotted. Slotted. That's very much my hope. I mean obviously I'm trying not to entertain the idea that he could get in and get a massive groundswell of right-wing support and us have our own Donald Trump moment of going well there's no way this buffoon could be the Prime Minister and then having everybody vote him in. That's frankly too grim for me to entertain. Yeah I don't want to think about that. So I want to say Morrison or Morrison. M M M M M. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to say. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to say Morrison. to be. to be a to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I to. I. I to. I to. I'm. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. that. So I want to say Morrison or Bishop. Apparently, Julie Bishop is fucking loathed within the party. Oh.

So I'm, I guess I'm going to say Morrison. I'm going to take Morrison. You got Tony. Ben's got to choose someone different because that's how this works. What? No. Yeah. Oh, well, I mean... That's why I got in place. Left with the rejects. Well, obviously not my first choice, but I guess that leaves me with Dutton. Yeah.

Oh, God. But we'll see how that goes. One more thing I wanted to note from today's events is that they, the motion was put forward as to whether to recommend Peter Dutton to the high court for his section 44V potential violation. And as predicted, it went 69-68 with the, uh, in terms of voting it down. And Turnbull voted in favor of not referring it to the high court. So this guy that just fucking tried to turf him. He genuinely had the power in that moment to be like,

ha ha, I got you, you little fuck. But he once again, cucked himself extremely. He's the ultimate cuck. Did you also see the report that people who were coming to him to resign? So all up in the end 10 ministers resigned their portfolios and there were reports that he was asking each of them to like promise him that they would not vote against him in a leadership spill in the future. Oh my goodness. It's the most pathetic shit. It's like well sure you're resigning because you have no confidence in me but I can expect your support in the future right?

Give me a little pinky promise. It's most pathetic shit. Oh God. Oh boy. What a week. So that pretty much leaves us where we are now. It's um... Well where we are four days ago. Yes, well as far as your concerned, dear sweet listener, four days ago. Only if you listen on time. I don't want to do the maths here, to figure out if that not getting lost. It only took an hour to go through all that. Oh my God. So we will return, we're going to return several days after this that you're listening to. You might be listening to it on a Monday, and on the Wednesday, we'll have a follow-up bonus episode

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