Boonta Vista - EPISODE 63: Beguiling Questions

Episode Date: September 3, 2018

Andrew, Lucy, Ben & Theo are recapping the week including the emergence of Daisy Hogg, a reader's insight into the mind of Andrew Bolt, the au pair saga and what is the go with it, and of course the c...ontinuing legal persecution of Mark Latham. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Buntavista. I am Andrew. I'm here with you on episode 62. We are creeping ever-close. Oh, I'll take that back. So, it's 63. Oh, you've cooked it. It's 63. Oh, you've got everything. I got a knot ahead of myself. I got behind myself. Oh, I took that back. So it's 63. Oh, no. I got, um, not ahead of myself, I got behind myself. Gross. Yeah. I got right up in my own butt. Got the numbers wrong. I'm not the numbers guy of the show. You might have figured that out. Can I just say, re-numbers? And I know I'm not the numbers guy, even though I have for a while believed myself to be. Uh-huh. I kind of, I get, I get... I'm not the numbers guy even though I have for a while believed myself to be. I kind of I get I get
Starting point is 00:01:16 I get synesthesia with numbers and 63 to me is a really good number. It's like a really really fucking good number. It's one of the top numbers in my books. Well, that bodes well for this episode. Oh man, if this episode sucks. Maybe that'll ruin my association with it forever. I hope it doesn't. Yikes, expectation set high. Uh, say yes, I'm Andrew, I'm joined by Ben. Hello, theo. Hello? Hello? And Lucy. Hey, coming up the rear of this horse costume that we're all standing. Yeah, hello. Hello? Hello? Hello? they? And Lucy. And Lucy? And, Lucy. Hey, this? thi. this. this. this. this. this. this? I I I I I I I I I I I I, this? this? this? this? this. this. this? this? I's? I's? I's? I's. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. So, this. So, this. So, this. So, I'm this. So, I'm. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So? So. So? So. So? So. So? So. So. So? So. So. So? So. So? So. So? So? So, this. So? So, this. So, this. So, this. So, this. So, this. So, this. So, this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I, I. Yes. Yes. I. I. this. this. this. rear of this horse costume that we're all standing. You're getting behind me, getting behind me, where I also am. I think we've established. Hey, before we get into covering what's been going on in the wild and wacky world of Australian politics, I thought we might like to take a trip across the pond. Okay. Which pond? Which pond? No, that big pondtrip across the pond. Okay. Which pond are we talking? Which pond?
Starting point is 00:02:05 No, that big pond known as Lake Burley Griffin. The ocean, I don't know which one, I don't know which one we need to cross to get to. I believe the the canon show pronunciation is United Starts of Amarici. You don't know which ocean you have to cross to get the, to America. No, no, no, no, don't the the the the the the the the the th. No, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. No, I thi. That, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. that, to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, that, that, Lake, Lake, that, that, tho, tho, tho, th th th th. Lake. Lake. Lake. Lake. Lake. Lake. Lake. Lake, th th th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Lake, thi. Lake, thi. Lake thi, to thi, to to thi, lake, lake thi, lake thi, lake thi. Lake to to thi. Lake to which ocean you have to cross to get the to America? No, no, I don't care to know. I don't care to know. The ocean is a fearful place and I will not learn about it. Which ocean? That is true actually I'm have you been in? I feel like this is a very easy question. The Pacific Ocean? Yes. Yeah., search no more. You've found your ocean. Great. I won't be learning anything else about it, folks. It's terrifying to me. I will not go any further into the ocean. And when my feet stop being able to touch the bottom. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The ocean? Yes. Yes. That's my main problem with it. There's just. Oh. Itthe 60. This is... Not a fan. It's full of hideous, terrifying creatures. The further down you go the worse they get. I feel like none of you have seen Ocean Girl. You're going to have to keep living with that assumption, I think. So let's imagine that they're traveling all the way across whatever ocean it is. Whatever ocean it is, I'm definitely not touching the ocean. I'm in a plane when I'm crossing the ocean, because I don't like to think about being over the ocean.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's going down, Sally style. Look, I'll tell you, this is off to a terrible start. I'm not going to let this go. Everyone's going to slag off the ocean. Hell yeah. The beautiful, life-giving, wonderful ocean. That sucks. Hey, I've heard it's full of big patches of garbage, which is gross. Well, you put those there. People like you put that there, people who thought, oh, I don't care about the ocean. I'm going to throw my cigarettes straight into the sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea sea to to to to to to to to to the sea st st st sta into to the sea straight into to to to to the sea straight straight straight straight straight straight into to to to see instead of smoking them. Yeah, that's me standing ankle deep on the beach.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Putting a carton of witty blues. Yeah, ankle deep on the beach like with my shoes on, soaking wet, chucking them in there. Like lighting a cigarette, taking one drag, piffing it into the ocean, getting another one out of the pack. There's several cartons next to me, confused families walking past, and I patiently explained that I am dealing with my enemy. That's what the song's Smoke on the Water is about. Shut the fuck up, please go. So we're in a plane. I am keeping the window shade down. I do not like to look out the window
Starting point is 00:04:41 and see how much ocean there is and become even more terrified. And eventually we arrive In America We like see what's going on every now that hey guys you remember when we did that episode However long go about a friend of the show parkland shooting survivor David hog oh boy do I? Hmm yeah hog watch that is correct Who was the the late Laura Ingram? Was that her that was that was doing the? that? that? that? that? that? that? T that? T that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that is correct. Uh, who was the late Laura Ingram? Was that her? That was doing the...
Starting point is 00:05:09 Is she late? Did she die? No way. What about the way I said that gave you the impression that she had died? Did you say the late... Laura Ingram? Did I say that lady? Did I say that late Laura Ingram? Did I miss here that complaint? Did I say that lady? I heard that lady. I heard the late Laura Ingram.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, god damn. She did. Welcome to Wonder Vista. Sorry to announce. It's a podcast that you're listing to. And we're in America, I believe, is that correct? Yes. Why are we here? Well, we're checking in on what's that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that that that's that's that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. tha. thateate. thate. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that Yes. Why are we here? Yes. Well, we're checking in on what's going on with David Hog, who sort of became, you know, as evidenced by the things that we talked about in that episode,
Starting point is 00:05:54 became like an avatar for all the things that is wrong with the soy boy children that demand to not be shot. Now if I remember correctly an avatar as a sort of very tall blue person person blue blue blue blue blue you will, imagine if you will, a 12 foot tall blue David Hogg. Finding his own business. They're not turning them into a tall blue man. They're turning him into other things. Yes, so on Twitter, on Twitter, Michael Edison Hayden brought something to our attention recently, which is that 4chan nerds, he says in this tweet, are photoshopping David Hogg to look female, calling him Daisy and then having sexual fantasies about their Daisy hoag memes.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I feel like this is some new uncharted form of self-owned, he says. Yep. And attached to this is some new uncharted form of self-owned," he says. And attached to this he has several posts of, they've either like feminized and photoshopped David Hogg's face onto various sort of teenage women, or like I'm assuming, you know, done some combo of like the female face app thing. So, you know, one is a screen cap of, let's see, six, seven, eight, nine separate photoshopps combined into a, like a montage from Trump Train fan page saying, Daisy Hogg is looking good. Then we have a micro chip on on it looks like on gab. You can always tell
Starting point is 00:07:28 gab because it just looks exactly the same as Twitter but just kind of shitty. Again with a weird Daisy hog Photoshop and the caption, How many people have masturbated to Daisy today? I bet at least a few hundred I may try to crack the old rig to her as well. I'm assuming you meant crank. Because that's what you do with. It seems normal. This all just sounds very normal. The impression I'm getting. So you go from Twitter with like Daisy Og's looking good to Gab, which is Nazi Twitter like times a thousand, where the guy's talking about cranking his hog. And then we get to Fortunetchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchch the the the the the the the the tha get to 4chan, the sweltering anus of the internet,
Starting point is 00:08:09 with somebody putting out a request. Let's see your favorite Daisy hogmames, pictures, et cetera. Triple X Nudes wanted. Too much. Thanks, I hate it. This. Sorry, there's a link to a video on here and the caption is, Breaking News, Daisy Hog finally comes forward, hear her statement on the Second Amendment, gun rights and slams her brother, David Hog. Right, so they are imagining Daisy Hog as the sibling of David Hog, who has their political views? Is that...
Starting point is 00:08:49 I don't think they've established a canon on this. I think it's kind of gone from... I think that might have been an errant belief of one poster. I think we'll converge towards like an accepted timeline soon after they iterate on this a little bit more and find more things about themselves that they didn't know they like to go to. I wonder if it's um... But they will not learn from this. I think that's the important lesson is that never learn. They will not discover something about themselves out of all of this. No. I can't remember the name of the guy but I don't know if anybody remembers the other Parkland survivor who So there was Emma Gonzalez and there were some of the other girls who were like fronting the rallies and stuff and then there was like the one
Starting point is 00:09:34 the one conservative kid. Yeah, yeah, who and look, you know, I'll Obviously being involved in any way in any of that is very, that is very? I'm? I'm? I don't know, and, and look, and, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, the, and look, the, the, the, I, I, I, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and, and look, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'll, obviously being involved in any way in any of that is very bad, very bad for anybody, no matter your political proclivities or anything like that. But I would definitely say about this kid that you can really tell that he's a right winger because like the leftwing kids all went, hey, I'm gonna like post on Twitter about this or do an interview thae the the the the thi thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that is any that that that is any that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the that the that the the that that that that that that that that that that that that tell that he's a right-winger because, like, the left-wing kids all went, hey, I'm gonna like post on Twitter about this or do an interview on TV. This other kid like immediately said about just getting into the grift factory. It was just immediately, like, he immediately got into the whole kind of Jacob Wall, you know, teen conservative kind of thing. Have an argument with people on Twitter and stuff. It's so easy to make th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, Iteen conservative kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Having arguments with people on Twitter and stuff. It's so easy to make it as a teen conservative, because there's six of them. There's six of them. You don't have to make any sense whatsoever. You just have to wear the fucking hat for some reason that they're all just ones placed on their horrible, slimy head as it exits the canal as they're born. Like that, there's your Maga Hat.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Here's your spot on Fox News for some reason, because there's not many of you. Like the baby from the children of men, I think. They need to be protected. I'm assuming you guys have seen like those clips from the, the thox the the c., the the the the the the c., the ccips the ccips the ccux.., the canal., the canal., the children of men, I think, they need to be protected. I'm assuming you guys have seen like those clips from Fox News when they've had like, you know, a six or seven year old kid on there. Oh, it's so funny. Yeah, and he's wearing like a suit and a bowtie and a maga hat. Oh yeah, that little dip shit. Yeah, and they're like patriotic child, love Trump. This is exactly what happened to Caleb the the age the age the the age the the age the the the age the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. tho the. thi the' the' tho' tho' tho' the. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea' thea' thea' thea patriotic child loves Trump. This is exactly what happened to Caleb Bond. They put him on TV at the age of seven when he wanted to be a real estate agent. Now look at it. And then the TV waves poisoned his brain and he turned into a mutant. Very strange you got to you got a kind of wonder
Starting point is 00:11:40 what sort of psychological mind field is causing this type of thing. But yeah, it's like you said the, I'm sure they won't learn anything but the extent of like absolutely bizarre projection seems. And can I say maybe there is an app out doing there but it looks like they've put a lot of work into these they've done like a good job yeah that didn't strike me as an job somebody that's hot like a hot girl that looked like a dedicated piece of photoshop work from a professional amateur to my mind yeah as as someone who has spent many hours photoshopping funny pictures thanks Ben those those particular ones that we're looking at tho that the tho th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th job th- thub- thub- thub- thub- thub- thub job job job job job job job job job job job job job th-y job th-y job th-y job th-y job th-y that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their that that that oshopping funny pictures, thanks Ben. Those particular ones that we're looking at are like especially difficult because you need to find,
Starting point is 00:12:34 you need to like match the exact angle that two people's faces are on. Well, you can match like skin tone and stuff, you can change color balances and blend stuff together and everything it's the it's that if the the perspective that the photos are taken from are not very very similar if not the same then it just looks wrong it looks like there is a face on a head that is like pointing in a direction other than the direction the head is pointing it doesn't work. So anyway, extremely weird, extremely weird stuff. Look it up if you want to see those faces, but don't go any further into it. Really don't. Really don't. Now I know we've only been here in the States
Starting point is 00:13:17 for five minutes, but folks, we've got to get back on that plane. Oh God. Fucking hate air travel, honestly. Not again. Do you? Don't mind a bit of flying. I liked it when I was a kid. Now I hate it. I like an airplane dinner. She's easier going back, right? Go on west, that's less jet laggy, right?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Sure. Like our listeners are going to be less perturbed by the journey back. It's one way or the other that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a of them for sure. Thank you Lucy. I've never liked either of them. Yeah. So I thought we might pull out a letter that I would like to answer promptly because you know that we like to respond very promptly to our listeners. This letter was sent to us on the 16th of July. On Andrew Bolt and Sincerity. Now, this letter relates to episode 63 now. Geez.
Starting point is 00:14:19 This relates to the episode that we did about Andrew Boltz, I'm done apologizing for men, column, which we all enjoyed reading very much in the sense of... A tour de force, that is. Just absolutely crushed large parts of our brains. Episode 56, thanks man. Uh, I'm pretty sure we all just took turn screaming into the microphone about how frustratingly dumb this entire article was. So we have a letter here from Fred of the show Simon. Simon says, my dear beautiful Patrien Husbands, oh it sounds like Simon is a wife
Starting point is 00:15:01 of the show. Maybe he still is, hopefully. I don't want to close the scene here. But I mean, is a wife of the show. Maybe he still is, hopefully. I don't want to close the scene here, but I mean I don't like the assumption that if you're a wife of the show, that everyone else is your husband. You know, that's very heteronormitive to me. I believe that everyone in this arrangement is a wife. We are the wives. We're all wives. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Noted. I'm putting it in the podcast ledger. My dear beautiful, my dear beautiful patron husbands, I've been listening to your most recent episode in which you recount beautiful three-headed sex beast, Andrew Bolt's resignation from apologizing for men, which I'm not aware he was doing, but we can all agree he should be thanked for his service. One point I've been ruminating on is the sentiment that Andrew Bolt genuinely means what he writes, which I feel I have a little insight on. For five and a half years I was employed by the Herald's son, taking birth and death notices. At an end of year function I had caused the man himself. Furthermore, I was able to have a brief conversation with him. So far away from that point in my life,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I can't remember the conversation per se, but he was presenting himself quite nicely, was polite and very keen to listen to someone in conversation. But I remember the feeling of dread I took away from the conversation, like I had just had banter over wines, He really thinks he doesn't believe what he's writing. I spent several minutes engaged in chit-chat with this man about his year, as he blithely tried to make out that he was triggering people before triggering was even a thing. But there was this very subtle contempt for everyone he complained about in his column
Starting point is 00:16:36 and the oinking swine that read it. It came across as a man clearly driving himself insane from outrage that thinks it's all an act. He's trapped and miserable in a career of zone-making, unable to stop, and it will surely kill him. At least that's what I took away from us. Ha! The old 9 to 5. At least, that's what I took away from it. Keep up the good work. I truly enjoy the podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Simon can as well. Well let me just say Simon Canwell you know? No I think it's Cantwell? I think that's what you said. Yeah I think he said Cantwell the first time. Trying to compliment Simon as well but whatever. Anyway that's interesting. I thought that was an interesting thing. That's why I chose to wait several months before reading it out. Sorry that I missed that one, Simon. That's what you get for being like one of the only sort of two or three people who has ever actually written to us, as opposed to leaving a comment on Patreon. When you say written to us, that,, is the distinction
Starting point is 00:17:45 you're making that he emailed or that he sent us for the post? The distinction I'm making is that he sent a long form email as opposed to merely leaving a comment. Let's face it, writing... You have a personal email under the Bontevista domain, Theo. No, I've, I've avoided, ever copying one of them. I'm making a mental note to set that up today, do not need another email address. You're gonna get one and I'm going to tell people where to send things to you. My God. Folks if you'd like to send an email to Theo, you can send it to Theo at Buntavista.com. And he will receive it at his personal email address. And he will respond very promptly. I'm going to need those C panel details at some stage, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:18:32 We'll sort this out. A little bit of web humor. You will get no such access. I'm on the C panel diet. I'm on the C panel diet. I don't know how we'm going with this. Finish it. Fucking finish it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh my goodness. Anyway, moving on from Andrew Bolt's self-destruction. Slow gradual self-destruction. I saw a little something from Barnaby Joyce's latest interview on 2GB that I thought Ben would enjoy, which was Barnaby Joyce's latest interview on 2GB that I thought Ben would enjoy, which was Barnaby Joyce downplaying the significance of Australia's national parks, saying that they're full of, quote, wild dogs and rubbish and should be opened up for grazing. Their lines drawn on maps that were arbitrarily drawn to win green votes in
Starting point is 00:19:20 inner suburban areas during election time, end quote. I mean, that's obviously fucking stupidish shit, but I'm pretty sure we do have the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu-d thu-due the thearned thr-upe thr-upiou-upy the the the the the the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the the the the the th. the th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean.ean. thean. theann'n'ean. thean. theann'eann'eann'ean quote. I mean, that's obviously fucking stupidest shit. But I'm pretty sure we do have grazing in a substantial amount of our national parks. Yeah. I mean, maybe it might be in forestry areas instead of national parks, but I mean, it's all managed by the same people. That's fucking stupid, you're fucking turd man. Like, yeah, and of course, the, um, I suppose the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I the irony, I' the fuck up, you're fucking... It's extremely stupid. It's extremely stupid. Like, yeah, and of course, the, um, I suppose the irony as well of Barnaby Joyce for a long
Starting point is 00:19:53 time, former, former deputy prime minister and minister for agriculture and all that sort of shit, before he got too horny to live. I've been there. Tell me about it. Yeah, of course, I've just lately been ruminating on the irony of him supposedly being a representative for, you know, rural constituents, simultaneously saying we need to get out of the Paris accord and make no commitments to changing our
Starting point is 00:20:26 emissions or anything while also begging for assistance for drought-stricken farmers in the middle of the country having one of the worst droughts in a generation while also insisting that you know that like all of our water reserves should be like diverted to send them all to farmers. while also also thii that like, thiii, like, thi, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like thi, like thi, thi, thi, thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm saying, like, like, like, like, like, thi. I'm, like, thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi reserves should be like diverted to send them all to farmers, while also insisting that like all national parks and nature reserves are just bullshit and should be opened up for grazing and like let's start doing industrial stuff there. It'll be awesome. It's just a great big fucking idiot. I was sort of, yeah, I was kind of ruminating on, you know, this government mocking like tiny island countries for the rising water levels that are gonna wipe them out,
Starting point is 00:21:15 getting caught on hot mics doing that, and then saying, oh, well, Australia shouldn't have to change our, like contribution to the world's carbon dioxide emissions? Because, well, you know, we're only one and a half percent of it, and if we change it and everybody else doesn't, then it won't do anything, so let's just not do it. Yeah, it's like a prisoner's dilemma where all of our children die young because we've fucked up the planet. Yeah. P. Yeah, it's the lack of perspective of being able to, like, being able to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toex carbon emissions emissions emissions emissions's the lack of perspective of being able to like, being able to see that like a tiny island nation is getting fucked by climate change, while also complaining about a horrifying
Starting point is 00:21:58 drought that's like destroying all of the farming for all of your constituents, and begging for like assistance and extra funding and diverted water and all this kind of shit and just being completely unable to zoom out like one more level and say oh it's almost like we are also an island nation that if everybody pitched in together we could help but But no, no, too busy pocket as secretary. I wonder if he could get in the room with Dutton and maybe come up with some other things that are just lines arbitrarily drawn on a map. Hey maybe they could um O pair up. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:43 We're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're not doing the O-Pair tricks. Well, we might have to because we have been asked buying a patron. And we can't say no to them. That is true. That's true. We're really bound to their will.
Starting point is 00:22:59 If you subscribe to the show, we've got to the show we gotta do it. You are our daddies. Don't fucking... Have you seen some of the filthy cretins that subscribe to this show? I have I regret saying that very insulting. Also horny. I thought that filthy cretine was your type based on your track records. Oh oh! That's a very fair critique. My goodness. I wonder if he still listens. Hey Connor, how you doing? Hi Connor. So, let me see, can I find it? Can I find it? thear. I reckon I can't find the letter that we got about it? No, I can't find find a specific one, but somebody was like, please, please explain what the fuck is going on with this O-Pair business.
Starting point is 00:23:48 To me talk to us about the O-Pairs, re, the go. What is the go with them? So, well, we've had a couple of updated stories today. So allow me to lay it out for you and see if we can we can we can we can we can we can we we we we the the th th an th an thin the thin. Say a couple of weeks ago a story came out that Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton, great big official loser. The former Home Affairs Minister who has had his super ministry dismantled and is now just, he's back to just border protection I believe now. I think he's the minister for sucking shit? Oh no, no, no, no, sorry. He's now the minister for eating big turds.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I think he might be the minister for being the least popular alternative prime minister in the country. I think he actually might be the minister for being trapped in a small box with his own farts. I feel like Peter Dutton would poll lower than like Rodney Rood at this point. Well people love Rodney Rood. They do love Rodney. He's rude. He's rude. But he is funny. So yeah a story came out that Peter Dutton had like personally intervened as the Home Affairs Minister into the visas of two au pairs who were in the country. Like there weren't that many details about it. It was just very strange that the minister of like one of the biggest departments in the country would personally intervene. like, in less than 24 hours, it was just the thi to the minister, in the thir thi. to. the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their home. their home. their home. their home. I's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their home.ea.ea.ea.ea. their home. their home.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea. the minister of like one of the biggest departments in the country would personally intervene like in less than 24 hours after his office
Starting point is 00:25:32 receiving a call from from these people to say, well you should be granted a visa immediately to get into the country and get led out of detention. What this sort of thing generally relates to is if somebody comes into the country and say like if they've applied, you know, if they've come over here and said, I'm traveling on a holiday visa and then they get here and the border people say, hey what are you going to do all you here and they go work, then they go, you can't come in. It's kind of like how in some places if you have like a holiday visa for like six months or whatever, they'll like try to, they'll get you to actually prove that you have enough money to sustain yourself while you're there.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I know a guy, I used to live with a guy who like was, had been saving up for ages and he was gonna go to England and like work over there and the the their, the th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho, tho, the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th, their th, th, th, th the, the, their tho, their tho, their their their their their their their tho tho tho tho tho tho their tho their their their their their their their the up for ages and he was going to go to England and like work over there and you know maybe travel around Europe a bit and he had a big farewell party at our at our house and and he flew away and everything and then like 30 hours later he just showed up at the house again because he had up at the house again because he had flown all the way to England and he got there and they pulled them aside into a room and they said hey how long you're going to be here for and he said six months or nine months or whatever and they said cool how much money's in your bank account and he went oh like 12 hundred dollars and they said, cool, cool. How much money's in your bank account? And he went, oh, $1,200?
Starting point is 00:27:09 And they said, yeah, you can't live off that for that long here. So clearly you intend to work. Do us a favor and get back on a plane. And I just put him on a plane and send him home. That's rude. Yep. So that will happen unless you happen to have Peter Dunn's phone number and can phone them up and say, please help, please. So people have been wondering what's been going on about all this and I'm wondering if as a direct result of all the leadership
Starting point is 00:27:37 spill if more and more details are starting to come out about this, if perhaps any of this is some kind of retribution for the many dog acts which have been committed by one Peter Dutton. He is a fucking dog. That's for sure. Bloody dog. So I have a piece here from ABC News. Classic ABC News. Which kind of lays out a bit of what's been coming out about one of the individuals involved here. Let me lay some of this out for you. Peter Dutton overruled advice from a senior Australian Border Force official when he allowed a French nanny to escape deportation after being lobbied by AFL boss, Gillen McLaughlin.
Starting point is 00:28:26 An email trail leaked by a whistleblower to Labour Senator Kimberly Kitching shows Mr. Dutton approved the release of 27-year-old Alexandra Duel, despite being told there was detail, quote, which does not support the minister intervening. Miss Duel arrived at Adelaide Airport on Emirates Airline Flight 440 and was arrested by ABF officials after saying she intended to work which was in breach of her visitor visa. Officials canceled her... yeah you don't fucking say. Officials canceled her visa on the spotting she was a non-genuine visitor. She told officials she intended working voluntarily for Adelaide pastoralists Callum and Sky
Starting point is 00:29:05 McLaughlin at their Barrosa Valley Farm. Emails reveal that she told officials she would quote receive free accommodation for three months in return for helping with this family's children cooking and riding their horses. She stated that her main goal in coming to Australia is to do volunteer work. This is a quote from the report. The client claimed she had been she had made an appointment with the South Australian volunteer officer to seek volunteer work, a bureaucrat wrote. Client was given an opportunity to comment on why her visa should not be
Starting point is 00:29:33 canceled. In response she stated that she was doing volunteer work only for this family and was not being paid so her visa should not be canceled. Callum McLaughlin. Callum McLaughlin. They spell their surname their v surname their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toe. Soe. Soe. Soeoleoleoleol. So. So. So. toeol. toeol. toe. to sea. to sea. to sea. to sea. to say. to sse. to ssosososososososososososososososososososososoe. to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the is the second cousin of AFL boss, Gillen McLaughlin. They spell their surnames differently. So the second cousins. And one has MAC and one has MC. The pastoralist father Hugh McLachlan has donated $150,000 to the Liberal Party over the past 20 years. That's a weird coincidence.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's probably, probably a coincidence. Hmm. Well, I mean, see, it's not that weird because, see, you said it's a coincidence and the hint there is that that means that it's a coincidence. Exactly. So it's a coincidence. Right. Yeah. Representations were made by the AFL boss on behalf of his cousin to Mr. Dunn's chief of staff Craig McLaughlin. No relation. To release Miss Duel who was being held at Adelaide Immigration Transit accommodation pending her deportation.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Gilliam McLaughlin's office forwarded the minister's chief of staff an email from Callum and Sky McLaughlin. So this is the head of the AFL, one of the biggest sporting organizations in the country. What would it be the biggest do you think? Nah. Well what's... My god feeling is that? Surely the league has... Oh I don't know. I thought AFL was more popular. I mean, AFL, as far as I understand it, only one shitty state follows it and then everybody else loves league. So it'd make more sense that it's going everywhere.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You're forgetting South Australia, which is some counts sometimes. Is there a New Zealand AFL team? No. I think league might be bigger then. Judging by the attendance of the NRLnets the the NRLnance the the NRLnance of the the the might be bigger then. Judging by the... Yeah, judging by the attendance of the NRL games that I went to on the weekend. That's in Canber though, right? What did you go to a Bleddy Raiders game, did you? They did go to a Raiders, they took my kids to their first 40 game. Nobody wants to go there. It's bloody to go there. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the their tho. It's the. It's the. It's their their their the. It's their thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's the. It's bloody the the the-n. the the the the the the the the the the the the thea. thea. thea. the-n Russell Crow's treasured South Sydney Rabbitos.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I bloody hope the raid is one then. And you know what we learned? We learned what a rabbit-o is. What's a rabbit-o? A rabbit-o is a term from like very early 1900's settler colonial times in Australia of a person who would catch and skin rabbits and go around and sell them yelling out rabbit-O! That's awful. I feel like someone tricked you. Someone looked it up because we were curious. Okay. Fucking rabbit eyes, come get your rabbit eyes. Yuck. Anyway, head of the AFL has sent an email to the minister's office saying quote there has clearly been a misunderstanding that she was intending to work for us when she is here to spend time with our family as we consider her to be family.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Oh my fucking girl wrote. We live in the Barossa Valley on a farm and have four kids who will be devastated not to see her. Yeah not to see their fucking nanny. Our family is very fond of Checks Hand. Uh, whatever the name is. A girl of outstanding character and integrity, she has also made many friends in Adelaide and we'll spend time for them. What can we do to have this injustice resolved and have her tourist visa reinstated before she flies out tonight? Get fucked, that's what you can do. th. th. thi th. th you th. th. th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi- thi- thi thi thi- thiq thiqqq- thiq- thi. Uh their their their their their their their their their their the. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the theateateateateateateck theateck theateck theck theats thexxxxxxxxxe the the the the thi th have this injustice resolved and have her tourist visa reinstated before she flies out tonight.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Get fucked. That's what you can do. Mr. Dunn used his ministerial discretion to grant her a visitor visa on November 1st. But this was not before the minister had received form advice from senior ABF executives to the contrary. Assistant Commissioner of Strategic Border Command Clive Murray advised that Mr. Well had been previously counseled in May 2015 about breaching her visa conditions and there may be some financial liability to the department if the removal does not proceed as the airline has been formally served.
Starting point is 00:33:35 So she's already been here in the past and worked for this family on a tourist visa and already been counseled by it by the immigration department. Nevertheless Mr. Dutton intervened and granted Mr. Well a three-month visa but with conditions. He asked that if he intervenes to grant the visa that the client be very strongly counseled that they cannot work, even do volunteer working kind and that their visa would be liable for cancellation should they do so, a department bureaucrat, a bureaucra, a bureaucra, a bureaucra, a document, a document, to to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, toeei, toei, toei, toei, tooooooooooi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, and thi liable for cancellation should they do so. The department bureaucrat wrote. Documents released under Freedom of Information and marked sensitive personal. So Mr. Dutton wrote in relation to the case that, quote, it would be in the public interest to grant the woman a three-month tourist visa.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Mr. Dutton said that his intervention was a, quote, discretionary and humanitarian act for for someone with ongoing needs and that the decision was quote in the interests of Australia as a humane and generous society. That alone is justification for his skin to be ripped off his skull. It's fucking mortifying is... Can you imagine? just fucking like oh the goal and he says on 2gb when being asked about it I looked at it and thought that's a bit rough there's no criminal history she's agreed she wouldn't work while I was here
Starting point is 00:35:02 it's fucking she hasn't committed any criminal. I thought it was an application of common sense. Oh boy. Just dog shit and like... I mean it seems common sense to me that we should pull people out of the suicide camps that we built for them and bring them to Australia, but hey, here we are. Yes, could that be perhaps considered some kind of humanitarian thing we could do? Who knows? So more shit has come out. So bearing in mind? So bearing in mind, like, Could that be perhaps considered some kind of humanitarian thing we could do? Who knows? So more shit has come out. So bearing in mind, like we said, that is a very, very powerful donor to the Liberal Party, reaching out on behalf of a rich family whose rich father is also a big-time donor to the Liberal Party? So again, hey, what a weird thing that he would pick up the phone instantly and automatically grant those people their wishes against the
Starting point is 00:35:55 explicit device of his own department. So we've had some more shit come out about the second one. Home Affairs Minister Peter Dunn acted on a request from a former Queensland police service colleague to overturn a border control decision on a foreign au pair releasing the woman from detention and allowing her to enter the country. There's another case where he used his discretion as a minister to help an opar who arrived on a tourist visa amid growing questions over a separate case linked to the family of AFL boss Gilmoughlin. Fairfax Media can reveal a separate woman was released from detention in Brisbane in June 2015
Starting point is 00:36:30 after a request from the family of Russell and Nicole Keehke who intended to employ her as an opair. Mr. Keeke was known to Mr. Dutton from their time together in the Queensland Police service where the minister worked during the 1990s. The connection between the two men sheds new light on his intervention in tourist visa matter, overturning a decision by border control officials to detain and deport the woman. Fairfax media understands Mr. Kigg had not spoken to Mr. Dutton for two decades, but contacted the minister's office to request his assistance.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Oh my god. Good grief. It's all extremely fucking dumb. As is the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case the case to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to work. to. to work. to to to to me. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. to. t. to. t. to. t. t. to. to. t. to. to. t. t. Good grief. It's all extremely fucking dumb. As is the case of the Opeir who arrived in Adelaide in 2015 to work for the McLaughlin family, the woman who arrived in Brisbane in June 2015 was interviewed on her arrival and detained because her intention to work breached her tourist visa. Mr. Dunn used his power under the migration act to intervene in both cases, freeing both young women on the grounds that it was a th th th th th th th th th tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to to th, th, to th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the the thean thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, theoooooooooo it was a humanitarian act to allow them to enter the country. Oh, fucking help. It's gross.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It really fucking is. Like, and... And... That is a good reminder that Peter Dutton, as the minister, has the power to literally waive anything and give anyone consideration to come into the country. That's his choice personally. Yep. You can just bring in people that are literally dying. They won't be bringing in people that need to give birth and insignificant, uh, in a risk of losing both their baby and their own life. They won't bring children off of, out of the
Starting point is 00:38:07 camps. Not even the ones that are on suicide watch. Not even the ones that are on suicide watch. We've had a 12 year old last week set herself on fire. None of these are humanitarian cases. Oh, but if he had his own way he'd put them on the next chartered flight. Oh, yes. Um, uh... Uh, uh... Would it be too strong to say that this week's crime pass is that you can murder Peter Dutton? I'm just asking questions. A little strong.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It might be a little strong. I'm not saying that that's what the crime pass is. Yep. Hey, and on the same kind of thing, um... Speaking of criminals. Chelsea Manning is being denied a visa to come to Australia because she's failing the character test. Yeah. Because she, you know, blew the whistle on the fucking terrible US war crimes. Uh, Lauren Southern, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Lauren Southern, you can let her in. No failing of character tests there. Miley Ionopoulos, all good. All good. Yep, guys do. So if, so she's being denied because there's a provision under the character test section 5-1 or whatever it is the Immigration Act that, if you
Starting point is 00:39:25 are considered to have a substantial criminal record which is considered to be if you are sentenced of something with a minimum jail sentence of 10 years you can be denied on the grounds of that and if Obama had pardoned her sentence instead of commuting it she she would have been fine, but no. And it's also worth noting that David Petraeus, who also leaked military secrets to his horny girlfriend or whatever, he just came here for a speaking tour, very recently at a liberal party fundraising event. He was fine. He was fine. He just came here for a speaking tour, very recently, at a liberal party fundraising event. He was fine. Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's all the same. A fun thing that's been stuck in my head all day is that one of the things that Chelsea Manning leaked was that she leaked, so she leaked footage of two US air strikes that killed civilians. One of which is estimated to have killed about between 100 and 140 Afghani civilians, and it is estimated that up to 90 of those were children. Yeah, but she shouldn't tell other people's secrets. That's one of the worst things you can do, sure. Yeah, can't do that.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yep. So it's all going well, basically. Anyway. Should move on to the good news? We should move on to the good news, right? Wait, now. Before we go, can I make one Opeir pun? One. I will allow it. Thank you. Um, O pair is Latin for gold pair.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Theo? You want to back me up on this one? I think that checks out. I don't know what the singular of it would be, but... I mean, it would be Oram pear, but the chemical symbol for gold is A-U. Yeah, yeah. Is that scan? Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yep. And then, what's the joke? Oh you can you can tell it's good by how much we're all laughing. And moving on to the next segment of the podcast I thought Theo was my friend and I have been proven to be wrong. Speaking of having no friends. Speaking of unsavory characters, speaking of failing the character test, massive, munted head, dickhead, Mark Latham, who we've spoken about before. There was news a while ago when... There was news a little while ago when...
Starting point is 00:42:01 So, Osmond Farooqui, who was currently an ABC reporter and used to be the editor for Junkie magazine. So I think it was the political editor. Yes. Right. He has, he tweeeat, he tweee. He tweeted something when, I'm trying to remember what even the thing was that was happening,
Starting point is 00:42:26 when he tweeted something to Yasvin Abdelmajid saying, it's happening, Yaz, the white people are getting fucked. And so Mark Latham took this to be virulent anti-white racism, and he went on to a show, it might have been his outside show, it was on outsiders, it was on outsiders. Went on to his Facebook. So not really a show, he went on to his vlog. Yes, a vlog, he went on his vlog. Went on to his live stream from his mother's basement.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He's Neo Pets video blog. And proclaimed that it was people like Osmond Farooke and Yasmin who were like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like Farooqui and Yasmin, who were like giving material support to ISIS and terrorists in Australia who want to kill people, that he was basically helping terrorists kill people, amongst other things, amongst all of his stuff about the fomenting anti-white racism and everything. So Oz did what seemed pretty reasonable at that point and said, you know what? I'm going to fucking sue this guy for defamation. We were all like, hell yeah. We were all like, we're not big fans of the defamation law in this country until today.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's a good day. It's, I don't know if Americans are aware of it's pretty easy to sue someone for defaming you in Australia if you have the wealth to retain legal counsel. Yes. And it's it fucking sucks because it's largely used by rich individuals, yeah largely used by Chris Kettie, by rich individuals or people in large media organizations or by large media organizations and powerful companies to just silence detractors and like, so Chris Kenny is the, the Ur example of this in that he successfully sued or at least got a settlement from the ABC because the chaser had a single freeze-frame photoshopped image of him fucking a dog.
Starting point is 00:44:33 On screen for about three seconds. Yeah, in theory you would think that any reasonable case would be like, well no one actually thought this was a real photo of him fucking a dog. No one thinks that this is, you know, whatever, but it worked and it's fine and that sort of stuff happens constantly in this country. So it's fucking sucks. It's also why it's so funny because he had to prove to a courtroom that it was a reasonable person would see that and believe that he was a dog fucks. Well, I do believe that he fucks do that he's that he fucks that he fucks do f f sucks that he fucks that he fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks that he fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks fucks fucker. I do believe that he fucks dogs. I do, so you know, maybe he was right in this case. He might have had something there, but it fucking sucks, but to see it make Mark Latham's just complete fucking insanity become totally clear to everyone in the clearest most concise way. Oh, it is like fucking just rubbing my body in warm oils. It feels
Starting point is 00:45:28 sensuous. It feels great. It feels great. So basically what has happened is that the the proceedings have proceeded and Mark Latham's lawyers who it should be, are the lawyers that defended Daisy Cousin's boyfriend in the QUT racism case. Is it racism, racism and sons? Is that the firm? Yes, yes. Racism, racism and Blackface. So, so they've submitted their defense and a
Starting point is 00:46:06 76 page defense. A 76 page long defense and tables of Innocence and schedules of tweets and stuff and the the judge has released his what's the I don't know his response what's the He's made a judgment. It's not a judgment yet is it because he's just he's thrown out. He's released. He's released a judgment on. He's released a judgment. He's released. He's released, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the the, he's the the the the the the the the the their their their, he's their their, he's their their th. He's th. A th. A th. A thi- A thi- A thi- A thi- A thi- A their, a their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A their. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. thease thease thease thease thease six six six six thease six six six six thease six six six- thease six six six six six six- He's thease six know his response, what's the... He's made a judgment. The teeth. It's really... It's not a judgment yet, is it? Because he's just, he's thrown out... No, he's released a judgment on the... It is a judgment? It's a judgment in this specific case, which is that Mark Witham...
Starting point is 00:46:34 It's a judgment saying... It's a judgment saying that this defense is so utterly ridiculous and like to the point of being vexatious that he is going to throw the entire thing out and ask him to submit an entire new defense and he has a month to do so. So, I'm... Just as a sidebar. Yeah. Lucy, do you have a law degree or did I make that up?
Starting point is 00:47:01 I have almost a law masters that I will never finish. Holy smokes. Okay, all right I just wanted to make sure. This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. So yeah again I did see something that made me laugh today which was it might have been in the in the Buntavista discord. So it might have been a wife of the show Kalsky or is he a lover? Anyway, Carl, he's a wife. Talking about it, wife of show, Carl. Take a kiss. Lucy. Do it. Do it. Let's do it. We're gonna wait until you do it. We're gonna wait until you do it. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't like that. So, so yeah, some of the guys in the discord we're talking about it and saying like so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the guys in the Discord were talking about it and saying like, so, so Mark Latham's tweeted about how ridiculous this judgment is and that his lawyers are going to appeal it and my first thought was, can you appeal a judge throwing out your preposterous defense
Starting point is 00:48:01 in the defamation case? And somebody else is saying like, yeah, but, but the funny thing is, even if, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the defamation case. And somebody else is saying like, yeah, but the funny thing is, even if, number one, he might try and go ahead with that and they'll be like, no, we already threw this out. But even if he were to win that, he would then have to proceed to trial with his own ludicrous defense. He would still not help at all. He's he. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He is also. He's also. He's also being to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be also being made already to pay for the defense's time. So the hilarious thing is that he's just like going to continue to dig himself a more expensive hole.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yep. It's just so good. I've never been able to read a judge just being so exasperated. Like you can read how it's feeling when he writes it. Yeah, I kind of, I started going through this looking for highlights to tweet them basically being like, because every time I've done this full work, it's always super fucking dry and it's so hard to find something where you're like, that's where he got owned. This whole document is Laytham being owned by this guy who finds it clearly so funny what Latham has done.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yep. Here's one quote. So this is Justice Wigney says, Mr. Latham's defense is on just about any view an extraordinary document. In order to address Mr. Farooqui's strikeout application, it is necessary to attempt to come to grips with it. That is no mean feat. My God.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Wait, have you got the part after that as well, where he starts talking about the Huguenots? Oh, that's incredible. Do you want the whole thing? It's incredible. We've got 10 minutes left for you to just hit us with as much of this ridiculous shit as possible. All right, I'll start with this reasons for judgment, because it's incredible. It's so good. It just sums up the whole defense without needing to read it.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It sums up the whole, um, like, faux intellectual right. Oh, yes. It really really th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's is is thi. thus, thi. thi. thus, th. th. th. th. th. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus. thus. thus. thus. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's th. the. the. the. the. thoooooo. th. the. th. th. th. has more dead to rights than ever in one paragraph. This is exactly what Jordan Peterson would do if he was in a lawsuit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay. What does the martyrdom of Christians in the Roman Empire between the reign of the Emperor Neuroclaeus Caustus Augustus Augustus, and Emperor Flavius Valerius Constantinus Augustus have to do with a defamation action commenced in Australia in 2017. How could the persecution of ethno-religious
Starting point is 00:50:36 Huguenots in the French kingdom during the French wars of religion of the 16th century be said to rationally affect the assessment of the probability of a fact in issue in a modern-day defamation action in which the defamatory imputations are said to be that the applicant knowingly assists terrorist fanatics who want to kill innocent people in Australia and condones the murder of innocent people by Islamic terrorists or encourages and facilitates terrorism? Could the fact of the segregation and ill-treatment of ethnic Negro people under the doctrine of apartheid in South Africa reasonably be said to be relevant to the defenses of
Starting point is 00:51:14 justification, contextual truth, qualified privilege, honest opinion, and fair comment pleaded by the respondent in that defamation action. These and other equally beguiiling questions are raised by the interent in that defamation action. These and other equally beguiling questions are raised by the interlocutory applications filed by the parties in this matter. I love... These and other equally beguiling questions is just... Is that also the one... It's like a little chocolate treat being placed right in my...
Starting point is 00:51:45 It's that section of text that has the interabang in it as well, right? Yes, there's an interobang in there. It's not like a separate exclamation mark and question mark. It is the single character, which I have never seen deployed. Me either. He's clearly having fun with the fun with this. He's got to do this, so he th so th so th so th so th so th so th so the to to to their to to to to their their to their to their their to to their their their their their their. thoom. thoom. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, their. It's, their. It's t. It's t. It's te. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's tea. It's te. It's te. It can tell that he's having fun with this. He's got to do this so he may as well. Oh you got to take the fun in your job where you can find it for sure. Well it makes me think of, um, it makes me think of like, uh, you know, the whole sort of Jordan Peterson fandom of people going, oh, you have to listen to like 60 hours of his lectures and read, you know, thr his interminable books and everything to weigh in on this. You got to have the knowledge. It makes me think of someone trying to employ that type of that type of logic in a real life setting. Here's the history of liberalism or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Well to talk about how I accuse this person of giving material support to ISIS, we really have to go back to Constantinople and just going, no, shut the fuck up. It's nothing to do with anything. It's like the equivalent of someone appearing in court to contest a traffic fine and being like, when the Magna Carta was struck. What else you got losing? Oh, that's the funniest bit from the judgment. The best is that you can read online, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to to to to the, to the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's the funniest bit from the judgment. The best is that you can read online all of Mark Latham's Lawyer's Defense. Are we going to get into that on the bonus episode maybe? Can I just read this one? Yeah, give us a few hits.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Which says that, Farooqui, by his various utterances and conduct set forth in part G of this pleading portrayed Latham as one, a person whose literary tastes and interests do not rise above the level of providing manual sexual stimulation to horses. Imagine having that own on you enshrines, like putting it forward. Can I, so there's a part here where this is the list of things that Latham claimed are the defamatory imputations that Oz made about him. He thinks that he, he contends that he is a white supremacist, a person who talks in a, quote, idiotic way. A person whose literary style is inexcusable. A person who publishes the same column over and over, a quote, lunatic.
Starting point is 00:54:11 A person so bereft of common sense and so out of touch with reality as to maintain his own dirt unit on himself. An angry white man with bad opinions. A person famous for making totally ludicrous statements, and a fit subject for scorn, derision, ridicule, and mockery. Which is all so accurate. So true. Oh yeah, the best part is if it gets thrown out as it's totally going to, it'll just be proving all that stuff correct.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, that's not defamation, that's not defamation, bra. That's you, bra. It's proven in a court of law. Latham's not the one suing for defamation, so it's not relevant? Yeah, it's all the same thing saying. Yeah. That's all the same thing. that's not a defense. Oh, that even, that didn't even really strike me at all thrown. That is incredible.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Unless he's like the other the other the other the other tha this entire day. That is incredible. Unless he's like I'm going to sue you. Which will be surprising. The other layer to it, of course, is that um, yeah, his entire defense is basically he said a whole bunch of mean stuff about me. And that's why it's okay to say that he's an anti-white racist. That he is part of ISIS. Because he said that I'm a fuck wit. Because he said mean stuff about me and that and that, and that, that, that, that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves that proves to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the other the other to the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the the the other their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the said that I'm a fuckwit. Because he said mean stuff about me and that and that proves you know, that proves it. Can you imagine presenting a fucking book of someone's tweets to a judge? Oh, it's just so many of Osmond's tweets in here. And they're not even bad. There's stuff that's like white people do be loving Coachella. Honestly, yeah, he submitted stuff where it's like a white people love owning Labrador's. Yeah, I think they do.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, that's reasonable. And there's a whole bunch of sections where the judge is like, oh, some people may find this distasteful, but it's fired like the Labrador owners, but I think they'll be okay. Didn't you say this may be offensive to Labrador owners lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab lab off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off the the the to the to to their to the offensive to Labrador owners, but I think they'll be okay. Didn't he say this may be offensive to Labrador owners or even Labradors themselves? The judge doesn't give a shit. The most pointed bit I thought was when he said, um, was when he said, yes, some of these tweets may be offensive to white-skinned or even thin-skinned people. Which in judge-ju judge-ju judge-ju judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-j judge-jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjuuuu. The judge-in, the-in, the-w, the-in, the-wee-wee-wee. th-wee. th-wee. th-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-m. th-m-wee, th-wee, tho-wee, th. th. th. th. th-wee, th-wee, th-wee, th-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-ss. th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-n. th-s-s, th-s-s-s. thoooooooooooooooooooooo-n-n-n-n-n-n-nob-n-n-nob-n-nob-n-nob-nob-n-n-n even thin-skinned people. Which in Judge Speak, that's like a massive smackdown. It's a huge bitch.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Like, and what I was going to say was like, you know, we're talking about Mark Latham, somebody who at this point makes what is left of his career out of insisting that everybody is like, you know, deliberately taking a fence at everything and words are just words and all the sort, you know, everyone's supposed to harden up in his entire defense for this thing. It's like, this guy was mean to me over and over. Let's close on another piece of the judgment here, which I quite enjoyed. And then we may come back and revisit it for the bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:57:07 The judge says, no doubt Mr. Latham would pick some other examples from the 164 tweets to demonstrate his point, though he did not rely on any specific tweet in his submissions in defense of the pleading. Nevertheless, considered individually or cumulatively, the tweets as particularized in Schedule 2 are simply not reasonably capable of proving that Mr. Farooqui vilifies or demonizes white people or is a quote in scare quotes anti-white racist, whatever that may mean. Extremely good. We've, it's like the whole country has just come together to laugh at and dunk on Mark Latham today.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And we've all thoroughly enjoyed it. I mean, it's been beautiful. This feels great, but I hate to bring the mood down by reminding us all that he is the ultimate winner in that all of us pay him $80,000 a year to just fucking decay and fart on Twitter. Yeah, well at least someone's gonna get some of that back. Oh man, I hope just fucking... I hope I was has a party with it. Much respect.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I hope so too. Love to that man. And so, we're gonna wrap it up there, we've got to get out of here and go do a little stream over on the old Twitch channel you can find all the details online probably I don't know maybe you can figure it out maybe you can't if you would like a bonus episode oh jeez look I've already got to rattle off all the links get into it if you would like the bonus episodes folks folks folks you can subscribe at Patreon to visit a thoista only five bucks a month that's pretty nice you can if you want
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Starting point is 00:59:19 That'll do it for us folks, and we'll probably cover a bit more of the Mark Latham stuff on the bonus episode because holy shit is that thing just gold. I'm sure you remember what the crime pass may or may not be. Wink. Just asking questions. Just a high tendon folks. We'll see you next week. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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