Boonta Vista - EPISODE 65: London Calling (Featuring @raaleh)

Episode Date: September 17, 2018

Andrew, Theo and Ben are joined by Riley, host of TRASHFUTURE who calls in from Canadian London to help cover the week in Racist Cartooning and national shaming of 9-year-olds for not being sufficiently nationalist. You can find Riley on Twitter at https://twitter.com/raaleh Subscribe to TRASHFUTURE on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/trashfuture/id1261944206?mt=2 Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Buente Vista. It is episode 65. Uh, 1965, of course, being the year that the Australian Mint opened and they started making decimal coins. We stopped having pounds and shillings and so on. I'm Andrew and I'm here with Ben, who's probably lightly, lightly perplexed by that. We stopped having pounds and shillings and so on. I'm Andrew and I'm here with Ben, who's probably lightly perplexed by that. When you say, of course, 1965 was of course the year. The commonly held knowledge about Australia. And you didn't Google this, that's my understanding.

You didn't go 1965 and Wikipedia to look up what happened to make a year. No, I just, I just thought to myself. 1965, what's the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th that's th th th th th th th th th th th thin thi thi thin, thi thi? th. th. th. th. thi thi thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the? theeeeeea? thea? thi. theauuuu. thiiii. theeauu. thi. I just thought to myself, 1965, what's the thing that we all know happened that year? You had nothing planned when you hit record on the podcast. You said the number 65 and you went, oh bloody hell, that's it. That's when we started getting our own bloody coins. That's it. That's when we stopped using um whatever, farthings and such. Tupins. Hapiney. Yeah, all that kind of thing. Hey, speaking of weird coins, weird coins from the mother country, we are of course joined by a British correspondent from the Trash Future podcast, it's Riley.

Hi. Hey, guys. Man, bet you weren't expecting this actually. I fucking I fucking stay surprising you. That's right. How long if you lived there for now? Oh I've lived here since 2011 when I decided to come to university over here and then I just sort of stayed. Cool. Any particular reason? Anything you really loved about? Oh, inertia, mainly inertia. It wasn't. I was like, well, it's, I've accumulated a lot of stuff here at university.

I could move it all back to Canada, or I could take the much easier option, and I could move it over the road. Yep. I'm not moving a whole rooms worth of stuff to another country. Who has the time? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't th, I don't th, I don't th, I don't, I don't, I th, I don't thin, I th, and I thin, and I thin, and I thin, and I thin, and I thin, and I'm thin, and I'm thin, and I'm thin, and I'm th. It, and I th. It, and I th. It, and I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. whole rooms worth of stuff to another country. Who has the time? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't, if this is offensive, I would like to apologize. Doesn't living in London suck shit? Is it fucking awful? Is it horrible? Oh man, okay, yes. In a word, it's good to know. It is, like, it is this thing where, like, there's a unique emotion that I think the British invented to describe how they feel about Britain, which is like this kind of affectionate disdain where everything sucks and everyone hates it, and we commonly all recognize that like the essence of being in Britain

is to be like massively overpaying for like a really shit pint of warm beer at a festival you kind of know as a scam, but there's like 20 minutes of summer so you do it anyway as much as you possibly can because you know there's something worse coming around. So it's, it's, it's sort of like, it's a country that's asymptotically worse, but that is sort of, it's saving grace is that you know it's better than it's going to be in the future. I can't even tell you how pissed off Theo will be that asymptotes were mentioned at the podcast and he wasn't here for it. I still love it though, you do love it. th. th. th it, th it, th. th it, th. th th. th th th th th th. th th. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's thi's, thi's thi's thi, it's thi, it's tho- thi, it's thi. It's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's th. It's th. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi's thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii's a thia' thi's thi's here for it. I still love it though for summary it's that's the thing you do love it but

you get a point to get to a point where you kind of love you love it and you're very protective of the right to hate it. Sure. So a very love hate relationship. That was definitely my take when I went there. I was like, huh, so this is London. Still London. I sure am in London. Yep. Well, it's like, it's the way I always describe to people is because they're like, oh, everything's so beautiful. It's like, yeah, it's a, it's an entire place full of like beautiful. their, theyre's like, it's an entire place full of like beautiful houses that you thouses, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, I'm that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's th. that's th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. that you'll get shot if you go too close to because there's like there's like they live in people living there or you know some kind of war

criminal nice now I just I just heard a little sound a little knock at the door speaking of war criminals hey I hear well you got I hear the birthday boy let's get this party let's let's let's start this party. How many drinks have you had? How are we? Okay. Just out of curiosity, was your boss buying all of your drugs? Was he forcing them on you? For sure.

He has a tendency to do that. It's not able to escape without heavy drinking. Hmm. Well, you've paid the price now and here you are. Um, Theo. Meet Riley, meet Theo. How are we? Hey Theo. Oh, not bad.

It's morning here in Britain, so I'm only slightly back to this. Just the old. The breakfast champagne's probably. A mimosa. That's kind of a brampane. I believe they call it. What?

That's another. I mean, if you want to talk about different cultural psychoses that sort of just, that completely just rend British gray matter in two, that's another big one is the sort of the desire of to sort of put on a dress or suit they ordered from ASOS and then like go and they go on in like a really chilly autumn morning go and force themselves to have a good time on like a like a rooftop for like an unlimited champagne breakfast that they paid sort of 40 pounds for and then like sort of, there's a lot of sort of cosplay a lot of upper-class cosplay in that sense and it all seems to revolve around getting drunk at about 11 because that's what people

imagine that like everyone on Gosford Park did. It's like madman. It's kind of it's that my horseshoe theory is that getting drunk at about 11 is for both rich people and poor people. People in the middle don't th. It it it it it it it it's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho-a th tho' tho-in th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thoooooooo' their their tho' theory is that getting drunk at about 11 is for both rich people and poor people. People in the middle don't really do it. That's fair. I started drinking today at about 10 and I have no money. But I also assume that every celebrity also did the same thing. You've either got to be rich enough to get away with it or poor enough that it doesn't matter. I have no responsibilities. It doesn't really impact the... If I didn't turn...

there is nowhere that if I didn't turn up there something critical wouldn't happen. I could vanish and the world would be fine then. Oh, thank you, Theo. It's like Atlas shrugged but for posters. Yeah. I shrugged, but for posters. I shrugged. And so did everyone else. More like Satlis shrugged. Am I right?

We'll workshop that one. Got up. We'll work that one around. So look, what's what's been the big event in Australian media this week? That's right, folks. We're talking about. Racist cartooning. I don't think anything happened.

Racist cartooning again. We just have like, there is some part of the Australian psyche that has a visceral need to open up a newspaper and stare at the most racist image that can legally be published every morning while they're eating their breakfast. Well, as long as you can see a fucking Sambo drawing while you're eating your eggs, you know that liberty is still at play. Well, um, when you consider our anti-discrimination laws and how there is like a whole raft of exemptions and they all apply like specifically to like opinion and art and all sorts of stuff and like I feel like cartooning would be sort of right in the middle of the

Venn diagram of all the things that will get you an exemption. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean you're being very generous about what constitutes art but I think technically if you've used a pen or a paintbrush they kind of have to begrudgingly give it to you. So all all Australian op-ed pieces are just conceptual art. It's like reconceiving like phrenology as like terranoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoanoano. Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh a the that's a that's a that's a that's a that's like a that's like a that's like a that's like. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. that's like. Oh. that's like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's like. that's like. that's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. th. th. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. that. that. th. th. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's it's just for entertainment. It's definitely like performance art that's for sure. Particularly particularly like you know conservative op-ed writers these days you do get the very strong sense that like it is all just an elaborate performance and none of them actually even remotely believe the things that they're saying. Oh which is something that Miranda Divide is on record saying about and also in the things that they're saying. Oh, which is something that Miranda Divine is on record saying about Andrew Bolt.

But also in the literal sense... Basically, all of them at some point. Except for Paul Murray. They do also do a... Dog that can only say the word Shosh. Got him. Well, um... I think they believe it all, but let's get into it.

Well, I mean, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the the the the the the the the the the think they believe it all, but let's get into it. Well, I mean, you do have people like, who was the, oh, the fucking Alex Jones when he went to court for his custody hearings and was like, ah, Alex Jones is just a character that I play. I don't really mean any of that stuff. I'm just doing a very extended bit for 14 hours a day. I mean, if it was a a bit that would be some of the most god damn incredible writing in the history of man. It would be very Kaufman-esque to put. It's not but if it was just imagine. Just imagine if it was.

Like the depth of writing there. Forgetting the names of your children because he weighed a big bowl of chili. Now that's a legal defense. That's a legal defense for you. What we're talking about is cartoonist Mark Knight. This is only a month or two removed from having another race-related cartooning stouche, Mark Knight did about Sudanese youths and he has done another cartoon which was a depiction of Serena Williams at the US

Open I want to say. It was one of those. I was one of the tenases for people that aren't me. Yeah tennis is for fucking nerds. was one. Yeah, that one. It was one of the big tennis shows and they were at that. And she did some racket throwing and some yelling at the ref and they said, hey, look at this, look at this wild woman out of control of her hormones and her emotions throwing a tantrum as they like to do when it's not a guy doing it and he drew a cartoon which I think the most charitable way to describe this cartoon would be by tugging at your collar and saying yikes oh so this the the cartoon came out the day before all the news stories sort of happened

about it, right? So like, it came out and Australian press didn't really say anything about it, right? A few people on Twitter saw it and were like, oh, and then it got seen by Americans overnight, and then that's when it became an issue in the Australian media. So I was working the night that it came out. And I saw a bit of backlash about it. And I looked at it and I was like, ah, should I bother covering this? My logic was ultimately that there's no way to do it that doesn't sound sanctimonious. I was thinking about just running the headline with, that's a yikeikes from us and then the picture but then I was like no look no one's gonna see it it's gonna be fine this will just blow over if I draw attention

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Is that, shut the fuck up? Thank you. I don't know which one that is. Oh my. So the Australian media had a very typical Australian media reaction, which is to, upon a whole lot of people of color seeing this cartoon and saying, boy, he sure has drawn her in a way

that is very reminiscent of like old Sambo cartoons and a lot of other very unfortunate characters of black people. And like the first two episodes of Tintin for some reason that we don't talk about. And uh, the Belgians are a very racist race. Oh yeah, that's life. Let's move on. I mean, if you say the Belgians are racist, then you're going to get Brendan O'Neill on your case for being racist against Belgians. Belgians aren't a race, okay? That's first and foremost. What are they?

But if they are, they're one of the... Oh, wait, no, hang on. But, uh... Let's they straight about the fucking Belgians. So, yeah, we had a very Australian media reaction which was, to hear these complaints from thousands of people of color and to say, what's the appropriate response to this, I know, it's to trot out like 15 different 65-year-old white people to explain why it's not racist. Oh man, it's so good because News Corp

aggregates their columns sort of across all of their mast heads and so if you looked at any of the websites they had their little opinion subsection and there were just eight different versions of the headline that was like, oh suddenly it's racist to draw a racist cartoon. It's not racism you're an idiot for saying so. Yeah I noticed that as well. I saw a column which was it was just a piece explaining why Mark Knight had shut down his twitter account and it wasn't because everyone was calling him a racist dip shit and telling him to shut down his account. It was because he was doing it

to protect his friends and family which is... Oh so he's a superhero? Yeah, yeah basically. Spateman and Batman. But if Spider-Man was also a huge victim at the same time. Of course. That's what I love about these Australian conservative columnists is more than any other countries conservative columnists they resemble a Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek the Greek their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. their. their. their their their th. th. th. He was th. He was he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was the the the was the was the was the was the was the was the was the was the was he was he was he was he was he he he he he he he think that's what I love about these, about Australian conservative columnists, is more than any other country's conservative columnists, they resemble a Greek chorus where sort of at once they will all just sort of harmonize and or maybe like a barbershop quartet and just you know, just sort of say, well actually. Yeah, absolutely. It's like the Fox News effect where they've all got their talking points to go in the, you know, go in in in in the morning, in their, in their, in their, their, their, their, their, in, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their.. So, their. So, their. So, their. I, their. I, their. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. We's, th. Wea. And, their, their, their, their, their,talking points to go in the, you know, go in in the morning, but there's like six of them and they're all named like piss nickety fart fuckle. So, like, news

news channels really quickly. Well, I will... It's the weirdest thing is that all the News Corp editors, like even if they all write for the same paper, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. And, their, like, like, the same paper, like the Australian has 10 columnists that routinely do the exact same piece every day and all of their editors are like, ah, fuck man, I don't know, we've already done nine of these that say exactly the, oh go on, go on, do it a 10 to do it. Go on. Treat yourself. It's definitely, I think it's been one of the most noticeable things in recent years, the most notable examples of like where the, a huge part of the perception of this from outside of media has been people saying, oh those things pretty on the nose. Like granted, there are lots of people who say, I don't see what's racist about

it, but also... Because my eyes were pecked out by birds but but yeah it's like a uniform reaction of white op-ed writers saying no it's totally not racist and here's why you're wrong people of color who were complaining about this and and absolutely refusing to acknowledge the idea but like you were saying Ben I saw a piece talking about his Twitter account in which it described him as Australia's finest cartoonist. Oh, God, man. Which, which they keep referring to them.

Called him a celebrated cartoonist over and over and over again. Who the fuck is celebrating this dip shit? Like, oh wow, you drew a very fat man with a sash that says, Big Bangs on it, you fucking genius. I mean, that's what you guys are going to replace Australia Day with, is just Mark Night Day, where everyone gets together and trades their favorite Mark Knight comics, you know, like, um... Handing out packages of black crayons to all the kids at the parade. Before that we had Bill Leake Day where we all go out on a balcony to celebrate. But that...

I got shot down. Somebody, somebody online quoted my favorite joke of my own about Bill Leak's death the other day, which was, he's falling off heaven's balcony now. Oh, RIP. It was good that his son took over his mantle as, you know, Australia's most racist cartoonist. Johannes Bleak? How many racist cartoonists do you guys have? A stable. It's fucking like, like literally one dropped off and

then immediately one popped up to replace him. It's a recession industry. His son, his son literally took over for it. His son like recreated his father's racist cartoons and put like new spins on them. It was wow. Yeah you never have to worry about us not having a racist cartoonist in our back pocket because it's there. like that's not going to be a problem. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. It, they. It, they. It, their, their their, their, th. It's th. th. th. the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, wow. Yeah, you never have to worry about us not having a racist cartoonist in our back pocket because it's there. Like, I, that's not going to be a problem. I, for one, can't wait for like, you know, a bunch of refugees to be drawn like pirates, sort of, you know, making a family marked like innocent Australian walk a plank. Do we have some cartoons for you? Oh boy. Do we have some cartoons for you. Oh. that. Do that. Do that. Do that. Do that. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, that, that, th. Do, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the that, the the that, the that, that, thi. that, thi. th., does that racist Australian cartoon I just invented because I realized I kind of stumbled earlier when I tried to think of one on the fly. We've already, we've already got that conflict.

Look, I know, yeah, you think this is new ground. No combination. We've been doing this for a very long time. So is Australian cartooning, racist cartooning kind of like multiverse theory? Where just every potential racist cartoon, everything you can think of. Yeah. So what I, what I liked in Mark Knight's reaction to the whole thing was the classic kind of, um, it had it all the great hallmark defenses of, it's not racist because I didn't intend it that way. Which is very good and also he clarified for everybody again after drawing this image which when a lot of people looked at it they

immediately went holy shit oh why why does it look like that? A lot of people's like a gut reaction to it was that and he helpfully explained that when he did the cartoon, he was doing a cartoon about Sabrina Williams throwing a tantrum. He wasn't doing a cartoon about racism or sexism and that's why it's not racist. Everybody's just got it wrong, he said. Did you see that the thing that you said on ABC radio? There's a quote here from a Guardian article that is just delightful. Speaking on ABC, Knight said he had no knowledge of those cartoons or that period and he thought

the said people were making stuff up. These are fucking professional cartoonist. I think I figured out what their psyche is. I figured out the psyche, psyche is I figured out the psyche which is you know only in in in America there are those like sovereign citizen guys who kind of think that like if you just sort of say the right combination of words in the courtroom you can declare yourself not a citizen of the United States and therefore yeah if you tax or

abide by the age of consent or whatever if you you tell a cop that you're not a name, you're a person, they can't charge you for speeding? That's exactly what these people, these people's relationship to racism is. They think that like, they can just be like, ah yes, you think I'm being racist. But actually, actually, if you look at the law, you'll see their fringes on the flag and you'll see that like pursuant to section 24.1b I wasn't intending it so you're not allowed to be mad at me. It's such a funny cell phone that they're like well you think I've been racist but actually I haven't thought about it at all. Yes you think I've done a racist cartoon, but I know nothing about cartoons so who's the idiot now? Exactly. It's like being patronized by someone reading a book upside down.

It's great. Well, I think you'll find that I can't understand anything in here. So who's the idiot now? Oh yeah, well I'm a dumb ass-owned. Well, it's funny. I was talking to my brother-in-law today about, about the Nike campaign with Colin Kappenik, you know? And, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, the, the, the, the, theing to my brother-in-law today about like the Nike campaign with Colin Kappanik in it, you know? And like, um, and the 16 people burning their 15-year-old pair of like Nike's all over. Yeah, probably supported by us and the president of Iran.

So a good cross-section there. Well I liked, um, I liked a onetweep that I saw that was just somebody saying I want to see like one person burn a new pair of Jordans. It's not happening. Everybody's burning like this 20 year old pair of trainers that they've had for a million years. Nobody's out there burning a new $200 shit. But yeah apparently within 24 hours you know Nike had already recouped whatever phenomenal amount of exposure and like their sales have increased some astronomical amount. Oh yeah, it was a very, you know, cynical boy that paid off. Very savvy.

It all worked out. But, um, yeah, we were sort of talking about all of the cappinic stuff. And of course, as I'm, as I'm always saying, I love the constant accusations of like the outrage left. The outrage left that love getting whipped up into a mob about everything and then seeing all this footage of people literally burning their own property to get back at a corporation for running an ad campaign. About man who kneels during song. Well, like, it was a special song. It's the crying song.

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It's extremely weird. And of course, again, the best possible reaction that News Corp, owner of the stable of papers that this ran in, could have had, was to A, run a 500-word editorial exclaiming that it's not in fact racist, and explaining in great length why Mark Knight is an awesome guy and not racist, and the cartoon's not racist, and if you think it's racist, you're probably a racist. And then they ran a front page, a full page page of the Herald Sun, covered in all of these

other characters that had been done over the last however many years of different political figures. And how would you characterize the interpretation of that cover, Ben? They were saying, here's all these things that are, Ben, like, they were saying, here's all these things that are banned now because leftists don't like characters? So they were trying to demonstrate that they, that cartoons fucking suck is what I took away from it, is that all their artists are shit and unsubtle and just bad at illustrating things, but they're like, oh look, we exaggerated Trump

to have big hair. Oh look, we made Bill Shorten have large teeth. We for some reason drew Daniel Andrews's bare ass, and then labeled it with a caption that says, Rejected, Silly Glasses, high crack. Well, yeah, that says rejected silly glasses high crack. Well, yeah that huge crack. That makes a lot of sense. Well yeah they had a big reject people.

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It's not illegal. You will just be criticized for it. Yeah, people will be like, frankly, it's awful. What you have done is awful. Oh, so it's illegal to shit in the car. So you're banning me from shit in the car, are you car with someone who's shit in the car. And it's like, well, okay, I guess you're racist against people that shit in the car. That's literally the most marginalized class in society. Well, yeah.

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Williams do? She had a tantrum. Now what does a baby do? Can anyone? Well I've got kids let me hold on. Well sometimes they they also get upset when they don't get their way. Now I want you to imagine Serena Williams is a baby. Ah, so I take it all back. This is fucking genius. So he's satirizing the concept of babies, I think. That's what's sad. And you can see, of course. One thing is like another thing? Yes. Hmm. Damn. Okay. See, I used to think that like Jonathan Swift was just about eating babies, but then

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All of this explains why Mark Knight drew drew Serena Williams in a big baby bonnet. And she was throwing a rattle instead of a tennis racket. Remember how that happened? Oh no, wait, he just drew her in the outfit that she was wearing, but with an unrecognizable Sambo type face. Yep. Oh, and there was a dummy. Yeah, fucking satire. Look it up. Sometimes artists, you're the thing, right? Like, in a hundred years, they're going Swift now, like, in 100 years, they're going to study just like, like, Mark Knight's cartoons.

And they're like, ah, so this is how they stood up to the PC establishment. Oh, and this, that's one of the justifications that they keep totting out is that they're standing up to the powerful. Like, I don't know, man. Like, it's just, it's fucking tennis and she was mad about a call? Fucking, who cares? I mean, obviously, I don't want to minimize, no, yes I do. I do want to minimize the enjoyment of people that watch tennis. It sucks us. But also, like, this is, don't act like you're trying to fucking

pursue some noble ideal of journalism by tackling this subject. Tennis, tenistic purity. Oh, what a beautiful phrase. It's not a word, I'm sure. It should be. But no, they're just like, they're like, oh, let's reduce the emotions of a grown black woman to those of a child and will draw in the most racist way possible. That took me 10 minutes. I probably got paid an absurd amount of money for it. I'm now going to spend the rest of the day sniffing the various chemicals I use to get paint off my pants. Yeah.

Well, the other thing like, it's that, you don't remember, they only want to see black people drawn in caricature. Because Thomas the tank engine just came out with a number of, like a racially diverse series of tank engines. And then immediately NRA TV was like, this is, this is PC gone mad to just display people of, yeah. And then they did, so then NRA TV because these are these are people who would just have a lot of productive things to do remade a new version of Thomas the Tank Engine but where they all wore KKK hoods because they were mad that's satire yeah that's see that also it's a satire of portraying black people normally, which is white genocide.

I don't know if you get it, you have to make a couple of logical leaps. Interesting. Yeah. Can we talk about some of the celebrity responses to the Mark Knight cartoon? Of course. Uh, really I just want to read out my favorite, which is from actor and thespian Ron Perlman. I'm not aware of this one. I saw you briefly mentioned it.

I'm hit me. All right, well I'm going to... As a fan of the first 60 seconds of fallouts 1 through 4, I'm excited to see what voice actor Ron Perlman has to say. Are you going to do the voice? Well, I can't do it a Ron Perlman voice. And I'm pretty sure every single time you've asked me to do any voice on the show, I've said no, but you keep asking.

And I will keep asking and I wish you the best of this and then I will keep asking. All right, this is the tweet. Don't know much about the Herald Sun. Do know this mark-knight, mothfucker, as in FUCCA, shouldn't be employed anywhere on this planet. Thank you, Rod Perlman, aka Hellboy. That's right. Thank you. Fucking rules. And of course Boy Wanda Caleb Bond decided to weigh in. Oh, alright. He's a bad one, right? I'm going to read both parts of this one. He's a huge idiot. That's for sure. He's a tiny idiot. Well, it's a small idiot, yeah. He's, is he 19? This is a teleplay called The Greatest Own of All Time.

Apparently, peanuts like Kathy Griffin have called this excellent cartoon from night cartoons are racist. This is about Serena throwing a fit. Nothing to do with race. Some people will stop at nothing to get offended. End tweet. Open a history book, motherfucker and then go fuck yourself. End tweet. Open a history book, Motherfucker, and then go fuck yourself. End tweet.

Surely that vulgarism is a bit misogynist, Kathy. So I really like, in Caleb's response there, the extremely pathetic attempt to turn it around into a, wow, well, you have been, well, like you were saying, well, I think rudeness is the bad thing. Well, it's it, all of these, it's not. No, it's not, it's that, oh, it's that, oh, you think I'm displaying poor etiquette. Because again, it's like, and again, like, Donald Trump is the R. the example of this, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the.. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. example of this, but like you remember how there is that Woodward article where they showed, like it was revealed that if you like take a piece of paper away from him, he forgets that it exists because he doesn't have object permanence. All of these people to a greater or lesser

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18-year-old male from Australia saying, ah, I completely dispute the idea that this grotesque depiction of a black woman is offensive. He's then told by a woman, open history book, moth fucker. And his response is to call her a woman open history book, Motherfucker, and they go, fuck yourself. And his response is to call her a misogynist for using the phrase, motherfucker, I suppose. Which is- It's because they think it's a game.

They think it's a game of catch the bad word. Yeah, it's never about the actual thing that's happened. Yeah, I mean it's the same thing in Britain where it is just, you know, a group of, a combination of the dumbest and smuggest people ever to walk the earth, just sort of trying to, just proudly refusing to take in new information. Now, Caleb chose to really take the high road here by writing an entire article about how hurt his feelings were. He wrote an entire piece about how we can't allow the mob, the wild leftist mob to dictate what racist cartoons we can and can't do.

And again, as you're always saying, Theo, we're acting as though like this has been banned or something, as though like every copy of this newspaper was seized and the image was scrubbed from the internet or anything as opposed to just people saying, hey, this sucks. Yeah, and also I hope the people at home are taking notes, just along every little point that the Conservatives are making in response to this cartoon. Because I think it kind th it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th th th th th th th th th thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, like thi, like tho, like tho, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi th, like th, like th, like th, like th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi is thi is thi is thiii is thi is thi is thi is thi, thi, thi, th Conservatives are making in response to this cartoon because I think it kind of all comes back with the second piece of news that we that happened this week but yeah like like mob justice just just write that down in your notebook because apparently right now

when it when it comes to being criticized about drawing a racist cartoon, it's bad but I don't want to ruin the surprise but maybe in other cases to Caleb Bond it's actually good. Yeah well it all kind of depends on your perspective. Of course the piece of news you're referring to Theo is a... Yeah, well it all kind of depends, all depends on your perspective. Of course, the piece of news you're referring to, Theo, is a nine-year-old girl? I believe so. Nine-year-old girl, I want to say?

Who... Ah, she is nine, yes. Yes, who didn't stand up during the National Anthem, the Australian National Anthem. She was, um, for some reason, I guess they were singing it at school. At school? Yeah, I had a school assembly. Yep. And she said, I'm not going to stand up for this out of respect for indigenous people. And they freaked out. And it made its way into the news. And now we have like, um, like state and federal politicians calling for her to be expelled from her school and to be forced to stand for the national

anthem. The friend of the show, Jared Blage, um, state, what is he now, state opposition leader? Is he the opposition leader? I don't actually know. In Queensland? I feel like you should know? It's Queensland. Oh well.

And, yeah, a huge dickhead who we have talked about a length on this show before. He got on Twitter and said, oh, what a brat. She should be expelled from the school if she keeps doing this. causing a lot of people to sayto say, hey, why are you weighing in on what a nine-year-old is doing at school? A lot of them were fantasy. I was reading about this. A lot of them were like, if I was there, I'd give her a swift kick up the back side. It's like... I believe those were Pauline Hansen. Yeah, I believe is... It's so cool. It's such a cool thing to say, Polly Nansen. If only I could employ corporal punishment on this nine-year-old girl. It's, this is exactly, this is just, Australia so often takes what sort of Britain in the US do with racism and just kind of find the way to push it further, not racism, sorry, with extreme, like, just desire for vengeance.

Because like the entire US is just sort of turning itself inside out, sort of hating on like a 17-year-old David Hogg for being like, hey, please stop shooting us, to the point where they were photoshopping him as a lady, being like, yeah, I love Daisy Hog. Yeah. him as a lady being like yeah I love Daisy Hog yeah I'm friend of the show Daisy Hog. And so it is the same thing it's like they pick someone who's just insufficiently nationalist and then they just publicly fantasized about like well that that nine-year-old girl so fucking lucky I'm Pauline Hansen and I live in another part of the country right kicked a shit out of the

we didn't put a huge naked ass being kicked by boot on our flag for no reason. I saw a photo. It's astonishing. I saw a photo that I sent someone a while ago when we were talking about the the NFL stuff the the flag protest and the anthem protests and you know you just constantly get people saying like oh it's not about racism, I just think that, you know, they should just shut up and do as they're told and all this kind of shit. I saw this photo of somebody's pickup truck in the states that had a big sign across the back saying like, you know, you will stand for our anthem or whatever. And in the bed of the pickup truck, they had put like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the the the the the the the their their their their their their.. their their their their. their. their. their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I their. I their. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. th. I th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they of the of the pickup truck They had put like a branch of a tree

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around with their kids being like you know like I love my kid but when another kid refused to stand for the national anthem, I thought that was too much. So little Jason here is going up for adoption. Little Jadon is not like, it's spelled with like three Y's. Well, it's, um, it's weird because there was a thing like maybe a week or two ago where a conservative senator, Tim Wilson, who is much more of like the light libertarian kind of thing and he posted a picture of himself on Twitter on like National Flag Day standing there where like in this photo with with the Australian flag

being raised and he's standing there with his hand over his heart gazing adoringly at this flag that he's desperate to fuck. It's really weird. And like there's a crowd of people in the background behind him. It looks like it's somewhere like Federation Square in Melbourne or something like that. And all the people in the background are just looking at him like, what the fuck is this guy doing? And like, it's really weird because a lot of people's response to that was like, what the fuck is this? Like, why are you trying to import this weird, like, American flag fetish stuff, which is just, it's not a thing here.

Like, we don't have, like, yes, there are people who like fly an Australian flag in their front yard and there are people who put like Australian flag stickers on their trucks and like love it or leave it stickers and shit like that people get southern cross tattoos and all that sort of thing but generally speaking people don't like shit themselves about the flag touching the ground and you know all the sort of really super amped up Americanized stuff and it just struck a lot a a a a a the th a th a th a th a th a th a th a th a th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th thr-n-like th. th. th. People th. People th. People th. People th. People th. People th. People th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. people th. th. th th. th. th th th they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the the thro theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee an thru. the sort of really all the really super-amped up Americanized stuff and it just struck a lot of people as very weird where they were like why are you trying to import this kind of very explicit nationalism here and the same thing goes for the stuff about the girl sitting down during the anthem it's just one person's personal protest and

suddenly you've got politicians weighing in and saying she's disrespecting veterans and everything they fought for, which as people rightly pointed out, if you're talking about any like Australian veterans of wars, they might not have been fighting for that flag because it only became the Australian flag in like 1984, that only became the anthem in 1984. Hey, you're disrespecting all of our golf wool veterans. Yeah. And like, it's like, everyone at, everyone at like, Galippa Lee was just like saying, guys, we're doing, we're not just doing this for us, we're doing this for that,

and then it just play point to a flagpole that just says TBD. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's then it just play point to a flagpole that just says TBD. Yeah, exactly. Hey, if there's ever a song of the future that sucks heaps, this is what we're dying for. Anyone up until World War II was like saluting the Union Jack and singing God Save the Queen. Like nobody who fought in any of those fucking wars was fighting for the Australian flag or fighting for that national anthem or anything. And like, you know, you see, you see like, veterans responding to these people and saying, no, you, like, people who actually get into the armed forces or whatever because they

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I'm sure their parents were told him to do it. Yeah, yeah, all that kind of shit where I was like, no don't get me wrong, I saw the parents and went, all right. Oh, look, the parents absolutely put her up to this. Like, I mean, not to say that they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.a, th.a.a. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their,, I mean, not to say that they like forced her to do it, but these are things she would have gotten from conversations to their parents or whatever. That's how you fucking learn shit. But like, the ultimate point of this,

I don't care if her parents literally gave her a script to read. Who gives a fuck what a nine-year-old is doing in a school assembly at some fucking school? Who gives a shit what any child is doing? Unless they're yours, Andrew, I keep an eye on what they're doing. I'll go you one step further and say, why the fuck is any kid singing the National Anthem at primary school? It's weird. Is this a thing where you guys just started doing it recently as well? Like you know, the national anthem is recent. I think, No, I'm sort of singing the national anthem at the times.

I think we kind of had to sing it at school assemblies occasionally. Oh, fucking definitely not at the school I went to in Queensland. I always, no, not even fucking once. school. And any kids singing the national anthem at the age of six doesn't know what the fucking words mean and you just so- adult does it sounds. You know you're just making sound like you're just making the notes vocalizing. It's like it's not an original point but you know people love to point it you know the the parades of North Korea and everyone like marching and like tears draw you know going down their face when the anthem plays, but we expect the same thing of like children and adults and whatever, like all totally

uncritically, right? Like. Oh great, now we're going to get ringed by tankies. Thanks, man. Except, except I will say though, like, you know, like we're saying, here, we all have vague memories of singing the national anthem sometimes at like a school assembly or something. In America, they get them to do the fucking pledge of allegiance. Imagine on a- Yeah, that's fucking the creepiest shit in the whole god damn on a, on a daily basis, you are required to place your hand over your heart and stare at the whole goddamn mode. On a daily basis, you are required to place your hand over your heart and stare at the flag while you pledge allegiance to your mother country.

It's fucking psychotic. Every single American children needs to go through like a, like a child soldier demobilization program, because they are all completely brainwashed. Fuck yeah, man. Did you ever see that clip that was like, you know, a little viral thing that was going around? And like, you know when you see those viral clips that are like, meant to be good, but you watch them and you go, no, no, no.

Like those, those things where they go like, oh, this teacher her car. And so, yeah, so they got together enough money to buy her a shit box, you know, the 2,000 fucking Nissan Pulsar so that she could get to work. So they got together enough money to buy, so you got together enough money to buy her the minibike from the Dane Cook movie Employee of the Month. Yes. Holy Fully, fuck that is that's, that I fucking remember enough about that movie to know what you're talking about. I'm really worried that I've seen that movie more than once. I've seen that movie maybe five. I could not just think what Dancook looks like. It's like a, it's like a really sort of weathered, unattractive version of like

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even if they're older than me, I'm gonna actually think about the things that I do and say. And in this particular instance, I think that it's, you know, what I was she was saying, I think that it's, you know, unfair and disrespectful to the indigenous people of this country to stand up and sing that anthem. Yeah which is true like the specific thing she cited was that line in there that's saying that the country's young and free when it's like a hundred thousand years old and occupied. Yeah. Yeah. Like and again obviously it's infinitely more terrifying to people the idea of a nine-year-old actually thinking about the things that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their thi. their their thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's their thiiiiiii's their about the things that they say and do and why they do them than one just rattling off a fucking robotic cult pledge which is extremely weird. It's the fact is that these the fact that their kids also is I think hugely

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and then sort of progressive meddling of some or other kind has brought it out of order. And so they think that the nation is this natural community. And so of course children's thing in the anthem because well they're children of the nation and they're the nation's future. And so if there's this child who's dissenting then this is an unnatural child and that's why they've reacted with such like incredible fury. Also, and so the the the the the the th also, also, and so the th also, and so the th also, and so th so tho, tho, tho, and tho, tho, and tho, and so, tho, and so, tho, and so, tho, tho, thi, thi, and so, thi, and so, tho, and so, and so, and so tho, and so tho, and so tho, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and so thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thee theeean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thi thean, thi thi thi thi thi th child, and that's why they've reacted with such like incredible fury. Also, on a second note, you guys said that lyric, is your national anthem just that song,

We Are Young? That's right, that is the song. Pretty much, yeah, by fun, you know, today, we are young. Yeah, that's it. It's certainly sung at half tempo, but yeah, yeah, that's a song. Yeah, no, it's these people just think that this isn't just something they disagree with. They think it's a corruption of nature. Well, yeah, that's a terrifying thought.

We better, uh... That's fascism, baby. We better wrap it up shortly. But you guys have a mail bag? Do we do get a mail bag It's a physical mail bag, too It's like great cost and physical effort to entry Fill it up and then empty it every week, but he does it by goodness I had to drag it with me to the other city that I'm in right now So let's see so this one's kind of you the th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th th, th, th, th, th, th th th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th th. It th. It th th th th is th is th is th is th. th is th. th is th is th is th is th. th is a th is a th is a that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to kind of for you and me Theo. Oh, there was actually also another message from somebody which was, which said, Happy birthday to the sleepiest boy.

Thank you. My eyes are very tired right now. Well, it is in the PM and... 9.54, I've had like six minutes before bedtime. Yes. Saying it's in the PM as racist against4, I got like six minutes before bedtime. Yes. Saying it's in the PM is racist against people who are in different time zones. That was from friend of the show Cassie. Happy birthday to the most tired boy, she said. So, friend of the show, Justin says,

My girlfriend follows both Andrew and Theo on Twitter, but doesn't listen to the podcast and is convinced that you're both the same the the the the the the the the the the the the the the same the same to be the the same to be the same to be to be the same the same the same the same the same to be the same to be the same toe between between between between between between between between the same the same toea toea toea toea toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toea toe listen to the podcast and is convinced that you're both the same person. How can she differentiate between you two? Well one of you is funny than the other. Hmm. Well, one of us is the third funniest member of the podcast. the today Ben just did the podcast version of the Joker breaking the pool key over his knee and being like we're having tryouts. That's true. Yeah it's true. Well if it helps tell her that one of us is taller than the other.

That should probably sort it out for it. I feel like I'm nicer but you're hotter. Hmm. Yeah I'm hot enough to be mean, you know? Yeah, I think the lady's like that. Theo, you're too cowardly to be mean and that is what makes you a nice person. Yeah, that's how Andrew got me to come on in this show actually. He sent me a DM saying I had nice nails but then asked if they were real. Yeah, yeah. Negged you into it. Negged you're right into it.

What that mouth did? I fucking negged. And finally, friend of the show, Daniel asks, what song should we replace our objectively terrible national anthem with? Damn. I already sang it. Tonight we are young. Yeah. I tweeted about the anthem and then it, a lot of retweets or whatever. I'm not brag. It's leading into something else. It's like a brag. But I had in a sort of in a reply thread going on or of people listing Australian songs that should be the national anthem. And I didn't really agree with any of them except someone suggested under the Milky Way tonight.

Is that what's called? By the churches? The church? And that song is a certified banger. I don't know what it's about, but I also don't know what our anthem is about. But I do know that that song slaps, I believe people say that. And I would completely support that song that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I do know that that song slaps, I believe people say that. And I would completely support that song being the anthem.

Fair enough. I don't have to go with flame trees. Is that a song title or a band? What is happening right now? Ben, back me up. I need some help here. Uh, is that a, is that a band or is that a song? Hmm.

This is a... Sorry, I had to sit back from the mic there for a second. Um, all right. He's getting steamed. Yeah. Sorry to wash out. By cold chisel. Oh, thank you. Okay. Good. Oh.

Right. Right. Right. I'm super disappointed right now. Let's just move on. Riley, what should the Australian anthem be? Let's kill this. Anyone who listens to me knows that I only basically listen to techno. And so... Yes. I mean, I don't know, I don't, th th th th th th th th th this. Anyone who listens to me knows that I only basically listen to techno and so...

Yes. I mean, I don't know, like a 36-hour Bergheim session? You could really stand up to that. Rob Duggan's Club to Death. Or uh... Oh, but what about the... do you mean the remix of it from Matrix Reloaded? Of course, that's what he means. This is a bit of a diversion. What? It's entirely a diversion, but I would like you all to look at the link that I've just posted in the thread. I might have been absent-minded looking for incense holders online.

And if I could draw your attention to the image. Ah damn, this is going to get banned too by the PC police. Andrew, can I get you to describe what is going on in the top right-hand corner of that image? Well, Ben's been looking at incest burners apparently. They are of a decidedly eastern bent. Certainly. Okay, so there's several different ones. One's kind of got a dragon thing going on.

This one's got a water flow. There's several budders with comically large heads where it's normally thelly that's big. But the one that Ben has asked me to look at here is an enormously tittied lady who is cradling, what looks like say a big lotus or lily pad in her lap, and her gigantic breasts squirting water into the... Oh, it kind of looks like a dry ice sort of thing going on. I can't tell if it's like liquid or smoke that's coming out of her tits. It's a backflow incense burner so the smoke sort of thing going on I can't tell if it's like liquid or smoke that's coming out of it's a it's a backflow incense burner so that the smoke sort of burns through it so that's that's the incense smoke pouring out at an

alarming rate from a nipples into this sort of dish and you're saying this is four to seventy nine Australian with free shipping no less I am not I am not going to put this in my house tho this the the the to their their their their their to their their their their their their th. their th. th. their th. th. th. It's their th. th. th. It's th. I th. I the. It's their their the. I the. It's their their their their their their their their their is their is. their is their is. their is. their is. their is. their is. their is. their is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's their their their th. It's th. It's the. It's the. It's the. It's the. the. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the same the same the same their not going to put this in my house. Although I might. If you wanted to like, if you wanted to count suicide by like being in a closed garage, you could just turn that on the volume of smoke coming out of it. It's dense. But those jugs are huge. I really cannot stress this now. Absolute McGumbo's. We probably shouldn't use it as the lead image for the episode. But we're going to. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their, their, their, I have their, I have their, I have their, I have their. If their. If their. If their. If their. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I the. I've the. I've theat, the. If theat, theat, their theat, the. If their the. If their the. If their their the. stress this enough. Absolute McGombos. We probably shouldn't use it as the lead image for the episode. But we're going to, sorry everyone, probably should. Oh wait no no, okay so it's that image but you take one of the banned things from the Harold Sun cover. Yes, perfect.

All right, I'll make a note. I mean that really does look like the kind of thing that a guy who still is doing pickup artistry in 2018 would have all over his house because it sends the imp the, the, the, the signal that he's sexual. Yeah, he gestured to it meaningfully. Like, I have a lot of respect for the female body. Oh, these old things. I love uh. And jugs. Let me just, I love, I love, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I I love art and jugs. Let me just, I love, I love Eastern cultures and let me just light this incense is called, it is called liquid sensuality. Oh Ben, I'm doing the Stephen Seagal voice because that's who I imagine that to be. Very much. Yeah, that's accurate. Yeah, exactly. What were those terrible flavors of incense that you had been? I only remember the one was denim. Oh I've got so many. I've got denim. I've got sex on the beach. I've got money attraction. I've got cannabis. Sorry, sorry, sorry,, sorry, pause. You have an incense called money attraction. Yes, I've got one called Blood Dragon.

No, we're not done with money attraction yet. I need to know all about that one. Okay, every single thing that I have just listed off smells like garbage and I've lit one of them and then put the box away and we'll never pull them out ever again. Denim. Denim. Denim doesn't smell like anything. Excellent.

And so, not that anyone asked, but the Australian National Anthem should be summertime by Thirsty Merck. And... You guys made up all your bands, I swear to God. None of these are real. Not a single one has a single song release. I'll just say that if Lucy was here, she would back me on that one. Riley, would you like to plug your show before we go? Yeah, I wouldn't mind.

Wait, I thought we were just having a call between friends. Oh. So... I've been illegally recording this the whole time. Sure, you have infringed upon my rights to the sovereign citizen. My podcast, which I hosted a couple of other goobbers, and which a couple of the Buntavista folks have been on, including the Absinthe Lucy, is called Trash Future. It is a leftist podcast about why modernity kind of ended up sucking, and we also talk about British politics, again despite my accent I live in Britain for some reason we're on iTunes and Spotify and any other place you download podcasts if you want to go check it out. Thanks. And I think we should get you

back on to talk about some British issues British issues. Brissues. Man I will talk about some British issues. British! Brissues! Oh man, I will talk about brishus until the cows come home. Beautiful. Or in our case, we don't really have a lot of cows. It would be, uh, more of like an artisanal chicken into your 25,000 pound shed, which David Cameron actually owns and then posted about. He goes in there to write a diary.

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Well, we'll leave it there. Oh, thanks a lot for having me on. Oh, you're very welcome. Your crime pass is that you may draw cartoons that depict white people in a racist light. Yeah, you can raciously draw white people. If you can figure out how, if you can figure out how to go for it. Just absolutely go to town. Until next week folks, thanks for being with us right. And we'll see you next time everybody. Yeah, thanks again. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Later. you to be