Boonta Vista - EPISODE 68: Pray The Wave Away

Episode Date: October 8, 2018

Join Andrew, Lucy, Ben & Theo as we chat about Lucy's trip to Hawaii (including rare Charlie Kirk sighting), our work experience Pentecostal Prime Minister's prayer power, plovers, Shaq, Carrot Top and politicians getting paid to go to Burning Man. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Wunter Vista episode number 68, the penultimate episode before we hit the filthy sex number and just pack it in. We just quit. Oh boy. It's the only reason we were doing it? It is just for this one number. I don't want to get needlessly pedantic here. Theo, back me up on this.

I'll probably, we'll see how you go. The penultimate episode before we get to 69. Oh, I see, no, yeah, I'm Andrew, I am going to have to. It's right. That's right. I think we're actually at the ultimate the ultimate Hmm. The penultimate episode of the 69th. But if but if we end on episode 69th episode then this one is the penultimate episode. Yeah but it's not the penultimate episode. It's the penultimate episode also it's before the

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Yep. Well, until next week same time. Same time. Well until next week which I'm very excited about. Is that when it is? What an awful time? What, daylight saving? Which is terrible? What's awful? How is it awful? All this putting on airs about being, you're just lying to yourselves? Who's lying about what? So this is Theo and he's got some feelings about daylight savings. Hey, go for it, Theo. Oh, the famous daylight savings rant. God, it's awful.

And we just over here and we just sort of, we kind of, we're very modest about the whole thing. I think we're just gonna go, nopethe time is the time also you're saying that here in humble Queensland we don't claim dominion over the procession of time or the rotation of the I mean I of course in some regard we do because time is a construct you know blah blah blah it's all very boring but I'd say that we kind of choose one and we stick with it. The day night cycle is probably not a construct. No, that's true. And of course we're also joined by Lucy. Hi Lucy. Hi, I'm a big fan of Daylight Savings. I actually love Daylight Savings as well. I'm against the hour on this one. It's an extra hour. Get out of work and you go to the beach and you surf for four hours.

That's right. Yeah. I love to surf. Love to hit 10 on a wave. Yes, I too, I'd have to hang 10. Some people say to me, you ever hang an 8, maybe even 9? Some people say to me, you ever hang 10, a minimum of 10. While wearing a tie, because you've just come from a very important marketing meeting. Straight out the door, into the surf.

He's the real chairman of the board. Oh, oh. Are we back to Carrot Top? Are we back to Carrot Top? Another episode where Carot Top comes up. I'm hoping to make this every single goddamn episode from now on. He's on a surfboard on the cover of on the poster for chairman of the board isn't he? And he's also wearing a tie if I oh my god maybe oh hang on and board shorts maybe at the same time let's certainly this simultaneously it's in my search history chairman of the board poster. He is wearing a sword and board shorts. There we go.

Well, there we go, folks. We've somehow managed to make our way from just joking about surfing to accidentally conjuring a very precise image of prop comic carrot top. It's daylight savings. Everyone is going to cosplay. That's what everybody in Sydney is going to look like in one week. Terrible. For those of you who have, for some obscene reason, pulled up the poster yourself, Theo is one of the two befuddled elderly gentleman at either side of the poster.

I think the one on the left raising up his hands in anguish, not M M at Walsh on the right there. And the one on the surfboard is friend of the show Michael Beveridge. Oh, he's looking great. Oh, hey, speaking of the surf being up. Lucy, where did you just get back up? Uh, Hawaii, that was good actually. I had to, had to take that one in. Thanks guys.

Mm-hmm. So, um, what, what took you to Hawaii? Oh, we don't need to talk about that. That's, that's boring. Look, I feel like we could talk about it a little. Who was getting kissed by who, that could be anyone? Who was on the girl? Who was on the girl? the girl? the girl? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? That's, thi? That's, that's, that's, thi. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. That's, th. That's, thi? That's, thi? That's, thi? That's thi. That's thi? That's thi? That's thi? That's thi. That's thi. That's thi. That's thi. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. That's th little. Who was getting kissed by who that could be anyone? Who was on top? Who was the girl? Was he the girl? You know? Let's not talk about that. My boyfriend lives there. Yeah. Oh, okay.

And I'm given to understanding that while you were over there, you witnessed a bit of conservative Tom foolery, some japes if you will. Ah, it was fantastic. When I was over there, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, TEPUSA, which, let's TEPA USA, is it Turning Point USA? It is, Toilet Paper USA. Toilet paper USA. Yep, toilet paper USA. We're doing it.

Got them. Got them. Got them. For the first time. Well the irony of course being that you don't need toilet paper when you're wearing a diaper, when you're wearing a big nappy. Famous diaper wearers were doing some kind of campus tour at the University of Hawaii. So I thought I'd go check it out, go have a browse of the big crowd which was one small auditorium which was almost completely full of people with gray hair. So I feel like the millennial recruitment are going well. Yep. So I got to see Charlie Kirk in the flesh. He's very tall actually. I wasn't expecting him to be so tall. Oh he has the sort of the breadth, the facial breadth of a shorter man. He does. He looks like he should be like a Ben Shapiro type. Like very short. But he's very tall. But he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their th. So th. I th. I feel like th. I feel th. I feel like the the the th. I feel th. I feel like the their their their their. I feel like. I feel like their their. So. So. So. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. So. So. So. I their. So. So. I the the their. I the their. I their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their. their. their. their. their. So. their. their. the breadth, the facial breadth of a shorter man. He does, he looks like he should be like a Ben Shapiro type, like very short,

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20s who are like you know big into anime and... We're in a suit jacket? Yeah like a suit jacket or a fedora or like a leather trench coat or whatever kind of matrix type shit and it's very clearly done with the intention of kind of you know projecting or broadcasting some air of being an adult and it does not work at all it absolutely makes you look like a child doing dress-ups yep it does not work very funny when it's incredibly hot outside and you're so so dedicated to your Chad, whatever it is, kind of look. Loved it. Your Chad cosplay? Yeah, so they did this little thing in the like

campus courtyard where they let people ask some questions because they're open for debate, obviously. And they had a big sign that said white privilege is a myth. Convinced me, what's the thing? Convanced th, convince me th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. their. th. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, theirthat said white privilege is a myth. What's the thing? Convince me otherwise? Change my mind. Why could I not think of the phrase change my mind? Yes, they had that, so they're having people co-g up and explaining that, hmm, maybe I'm a black person, and these are the reasons that white privilege exists, and they were having a little debate with them. Then one guy came up, and because Charlie was saying that feelings shouldn't impact public policy, so this guy came up and started talking about God and how Charlie's feelings that

God exists shouldn't impact public policy, which made them very upset and eventually, they basically had their guys in three-piece suits, their Marga guys, like taking this guy away from the microphone, which was just interesting, you know? Just manhandling away, censoring him? Censoring him? Yeah, basically as soon as he started saying that, Charlie was like, you're done, you're being disrespectful, you're done. It's like, cool.

Great job, guys. Great job with the open debate. I feel like Candace Owen, is it Owen or Owens? I don't know. I think it's Owen. I feel like she has come really strong out of the gate for like I feel like she is really just. Owens. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's really leapfrogged the pack. When it comes to like smuggest. Oh. Like, I'm like s' that's cool. I'm like that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I th. I tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, Owens. Sorry, I'm playing to so Owens. She's really leapfrogged the pack, when it comes to like, smuggest conservative. I know that like, I know that it's a whole, it's a whole thing with that scene to just come off as smug as possible.

But she's a black conservative. That's like a whole other level of smug that you can get into. It's a weird, it's a weird gig. It's a weird... It's very strange. A black woman, conservative. Love it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure like for every... Minority category you occupy that is adversely affected by conservative beliefs, your pay from conservatives goes up by zero. Like they add one to the end. Yeah, absolutely. Like I think like Ben Shapiro gets that because he's Jewish. Yeah, he gets a little

notch up there. But yeah, I mean like your basic Christian white guy, they're a dime a dozen, in the old conservative movement, as you said Ben, is... I was listening to something, I was, I was listening, I, the the conservative, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, the their, their, thi, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their their their their their their, they're a dime a dozen in the old conservative movement, but as I said Ben, is... I was listening to something the other day. Is Charlie Kirk gay? I think Charlie Kurt is gay? I think so what? I don't know.

I just kind of thought of him. Reproducing by mitosis. No, I think I was listening to a chapo traphouse episode where they were reading... I mean they could have just been using gay as an insult. No, they were reading from a piece which I think was his about dating a conservative and I think was his about dating as a conservative and I think it was a Charlie Koch piece where he was talking about dating somebody and having them say, hmm, but conservatives hate us gay people.

Okay, it's definitely not Charlie Kirk. I'm just looking. It's somebody else. I wonder who it was them. I thought so. He's very religious. So I doubt it. I'm confused with. Yeah, log cabin Republicans, it's all very strange. It's all very strange. So that must have been a fun experience for you, Lucy. It was quite enjoyable to watch, mostly just because of how, like, they clearly expected it was going to be this big thing and there was going to be angry leftist. Like they were waiting for a fight type thing and it was just like a hundred people there that were really just there to see Charlie. They weren't even students. God. Well that's because conservatism is censored on campus. That's right, they're being censored by having their views held in an auditorium and then

in the middle of the campus courtyard with a loudspeaker. I was just seeing a thing about Barry Weiss's new book about what are we going to do about the culture of censorship and sensoriousness and you write for the fucking New York Times and also you're writing a whole book about this. I can see how you're being censored once again by the intolerant left. The intolerant left, that's right. Speaking of the old god-botherers, the old happy clapers. I gotta say, I do, that's right. Speaking of the old God-botherers, the old happy-clappers, I got to say, I do love that phrase. What's the happy-clapper? Um, well, picture if you will, um, evangelical people happily clapping along to songs in church.

It's nice. It's a nice image. Yep. Uh, we've got a temporary Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Because let's all face it, no- We're giving him a guy. Yeah, we're trying him out. It's like one of those, the mattresses that we don't sell on this podcast, but every other podcast does. You get a 90-day trial with them.

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Can I also just stop Andrew from continuing on with this thing for one second? My doctor prescribed be an antidepresent because I can't sleep very well and I've just been googling it for like what else it's used for and it's side effects or whatever. Apparently it's a fantastic IBS treatment. Wow! Which is great. Fantastic side effect but I'm just reading through these reviews. I just need to stay the sentence out loud to somebody else. I had IBS so bad. I was living on eight emodium a day just to be able to function. God, damn.

It's brutal. You guys take it at emodium? The diarrhea medicine before? Yeah. Yeah. You know if you takes one? It's not a pro diarrhea. It's like a butt co like a pre-diaire.

It's like a, it's like a butt coagulant, you know. Exactly. Well, if I didn't think it's a poop coagulant. Oh, the butt stays. You know where the poop comes from. You know where the poop comes from. It is generated by the butt. How could you take a emodium? Well, if your body is producing anti-emodium.

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Anyways, I'm glad this person's ate emotium habits been helped by the stork. That's just can't be good for your body, hey? Like, it's what's it doing? It basically giving your butt hole rig a mortis That's my understanding. It's pre-killing your butt hole closed up. It's just completely closed It's fucking Neo's mouth from the matrix. I was thinking of Neo's mouth in the matrix too. Completely smoothed over what use is a butthole if you cannot shit? What use is a butt hole if you cannot... Shit. Oh, Mr. Anderson. Oh, here go weaving. What a national treasure. My goodness.

Sorry, you could be doing the the end. Yeah, yeah. The Matrix. What a... No, I don't know how to get back from there. Well, I'm glad you tried. Hey, yo, oh. Speaking of butt holes. So, work experience, Prime Minister, Scott Morrison.

So a video has come out. So he's a big-time, he's a big time religion head this guy. That's what we call it. Big into God. It's a big, big fan of the big man upstairs, basically. Big, sorry, big person, big person upstairs. So a video came out from Melbourne this week, this is from the financial review. A video from a Pentecostal church in Melbourne shows Scott Morrison praying for victims of the Sulawesi earthquake and drought affected farmers in Australia. The video shared across social media this week offers a rare insight into the Prime Minister's personal faith. I don't think it's that rare. What shut the fuck up about it?

Recorded by a worshipper at the Planet Shakers Church in Melbourne. Huh. It's a church slash gym. Oh stop dropping the weights while they're doing the sermon. Planet Shakers, that's a very presumptuous name to me. That's some like Scientology-level shit of like, watch us, watch us change the world. To me, Planet Shakers sounds like a 1950s diner where all the women are on roller skates and the only thing they have is shaker fries. Really does.

Milkshakes as well, obviously. Yeah, sure. The video shows Mr. Morrison calling on God to support Indonesia's president Joko Widodo in the wake of the devastating earthquake which has killed more than 1,300 people. Uh, you know, it goes on to quote him, there's a video, video of him doing his prayers.

Says amid clapping and cheers from the congregation, Mr Morrison then asked to pray for Australian farmers, Lord we pray for our rural communities, our indigenous communities, Lord we pray that you'll bring light, that you'll bring hope that you'll bring encouragement and Lord that you will bring rain. I feel like you are adding more razzameteers to it than he would have done it with. Ah, he's probably not much of a Razomataza. Members of the congregation then prayed for Mr Morrison and his family. It's like a bit of a conflict of interest there, but, um, okay. Get to get your own prayers while you're there, geez. I was throwing prayers around. He it it it thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin that at it thatets thates thates thates thates thates thates thates thatus that that that that that that thates that thatus that that that that. Yeah that. Yeah that. Yeah that. Yeah that. Yeah that. Yeah that. Yeah thatus thatus thatus thatus thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thate thates thates thates thates thates thates thates that, thate that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th while you're there. Geez. I'm just throwing prayers around.

He's double dipping. Planet Shakers has five churches and as many as 15,000 regular parishioners. So he is Australia's first Pentecostal Prime Minister. Mr. Morrison is known to be a devout Christian, but has kept his religion separate from his political career other than all the times that he's fucking talking about it. So I was kind of curious about what what you guys thought of this in the context of how it's kind of framed and presented as a news story. Because like obviously on one hand we live in a secular society. Everyone's got a right to, you know, worship how they want in private and everything.

But also, it's weird to be like, dear God, help out our ally, Indonesian president, Joko Widodo. It's very strange. This is some weird shit. Yeah. I mean, like, I'm of the mind that it's fine. Like, the news stories will report on literally anything any PM does, and it's all performative. Like, I don't, I'm sure his beliefs are sincere maybe, although I secretly believe all politicians are into weird sex-cult magic and actually into whatever they claim to be.

But it's like, even if his beliefs are sincere, something like that is still used as a PR stunt, right? For him to say specifically, like, uh, we want relief for farmers and our indigenous communities and whatever, that's him trying to promote something, right? And he does it knowing that it's going to be under the public gaze. So from that regard, I hate it just because everything, everything, every single politician does all the time is completely hollow and bereft of any sincerity or meaning and the media and the public and all politicians all go along with this act and it's so fucking infuriating and disheartening. Other than that. Like the prayer breakfast

and shit like that, you know? The fucks a prayer breakfast. What is that? Well the shit they do where they have the early morning things and everybody comes along and goes to church together and shit all the politicians before they front up at fucking Parliament for the day. This is news to me. Well and also even the fact that that, um, even the fact that, uh, even the fact that, uh, what, the, you know, at the start of, at the start of every day. They do the, the prayer in Parliament, in the Senate and shit. What f- Is that all about, huh?

Very weird, Smash. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I don't know. It's weird, but I don't care all that much. You know, I like, I'm as, I think it's as fucking weird as they's, the the tha, tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.e.e.e.e.e.e. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th much. You know, I like, I'm as, I think it's as fucking weird as everything they do. It's the same when they like cover a PM going to a footy game or whatever, and it's invariably them supporting the team of their electorate, that they only started supporting once they started campaigning for or whatever. It's just as hollow, it's just as trivial and not worth a news story, but here we are. So this is fucking wild. So they, so every year, yeah, they have a national prayer breakfast in Parliament House. Wow. Usually in the Great Hall.

Oh, it only costs $600 for a table of 10. Cool. But yeah, and then, and so, you know, both the Prime Minister and the opposition leader and all the cabinet and shadow cabinet members go along and everybody pretends they believe in God. And I think like, yeah, like I said, I'm sort of conflicted about the whole thing because, you know, like I said, privately do whatever the fuck you want, but as many people point out about Scott Morrison, like where is the line, like where's the point in which commenting about his religion is fair game in the sense that, you know, he is supposedly

a devout adherent of a religion that teaches, you know, tolerance and love for your fellow man and everything, but also was the architect and implementer of one of Australia's cruelest and most inhumane policies to people seeking help? I think that's the aspect. It's the rub for a lot of people, isn't it? Yeah, that like, well in this, in this case, you know, you can be praying for rain or praying for, you know, assistance or for the Indonesian people to get back on their feet and that sort of stuff. And, you know, I think we we talked about our last episode or episode before, that, you know, he certainly is like just the last and a long line of Christian prime ministers, so it's not new, and people will always, you know,

express themselves through their belief systems or what have you. But to do that, and then, you know, not put the action in to actually make it happen thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do that and then you know not put the action in to actually make it happen like you don't have to pray anymore you you're the guy that makes it happen you know if you want to you know make sure that there's a ongoing kind of environment that's that's stable and you know copacetic for farming and all that sort of stuff. Maybe don't get up in Parliament and wave a piece of coal around going, this is your friend, right? Like, there are material things that you can put into action to, to stop the weather from

continually getting more and more fucked up. So to kind of not have the actions in place to do this and then just put the most kind of like performative kind of effort in to say that you're caring about it is the bullshit part. And you really get into the thoughts and prayers sort of tone that kind of dominates, you know, American politics and that sort of tone that kind of dominates you know American politics and that sort of thing where it's like you know 400 children are mulled down with a mini gun and its thoughts and prayers not banning mini guns in schools. Yeah you know you beat me to it as far as the this is the perfect

encapsulation of the thoughts and prayers deal which is while being in a position to actually influence some of this stuff you don't do any of that. You're literally the guy that can fucking change this stuff. Not a tsunami hitting but you can you know stop cutting the fucking foreign aid budget for one second like that's a thing you can do. Yeah but he's also he said some nice stuff in church. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. But also, I mean, I don't know if it's sort of worth,

like, I don't know whether the different denomination is worth commenting on as well, because, I mean, like, you know, Tony Abbott's a devout Catholic, but he's also someone where it seemed like his, his faith was entirely just a fucking instrument of defending particular actions but then ignoring it at the times that it didn't really suit whatever he was trying to do. You know, so very much the same sort of thing. I guess like, I would say, to my understanding of that kind of real evangelical Pentecostal hill song kind of thing, much more of the sort of new wave mega-church kind of deal,

that my understanding of all of that stuff is much less kind of like, you have to follow all the very specific rules of the church and all the old rituals like Catholicism in order to get to heaven or whatever and it's much more like, well, you make sure that you give us plenty of money and grease the wheels with God and if things don't go well for you it's probably because you didn't pray hard enough enough or chip in money. So just sort that out and you're all good. Which at its essence is I think like much more of a, like as a sort of denomination of religion, it's much more kind of looking out for number one at its core.

It's much more kind of, what can God do for you, you know? Which is like to me is kind of an alarming thing to have a very, very devout person in that particular vein running the show. Can I just do a little brief interruption here? Sure. I don't believe that was being picked up by my microphone and I suspect it might be Feevers. We have a nature corner.

I heard plovers. Holyos. Oh my god, these fucking plovers. We have a nature corner. I thought I heard plovers. Holy shit. So, um... I know that horrible sound anywhere. Do you do nature corner because I've just realized I need a bottle opener. I'll be right. Okay. So keen listeners may remember the episode we did with Danny Bowls.

I hope I'm saying that right. Oh, you're not, but go on. God damn. That's fucking plover. Anyway, so I live with a school behind me, and it's currently school holidays, and so plovers have nested in the field, and if you're an American listener, you may not know, your plovers are these little finch things that are very cute. Ours are horrible murder birds with festering spikes under their, under their cloaks.

And they set up right in the middle of the field behind, behind the school and I cannot wait. This is the one time I'm just waiting for school holidays to end. So all the kids can just get nailed in the head with these plovers, but they just slowly lose more and more territory. You know, it's a war of attrition. There's more like... So good. I remember when I was a kid we used to play like plover chicken, like in groups of us, we'd like one of us would have to go as close to the plover trees the tree trees, tree trees, the tree trees, tree, tree, tree, tree, the tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, the tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, to, to, to, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.. tops, togu.I. toge, toge, togs, too, too, too, too, too, to, they. they. they. they. the plover trees as we could and then they'd start swooping you have to run away from them. I got swooped by one when I was maybe 10 years old and end up like on a beach

crying face down in the sand because I didn't think I could go anywhere. And now any time I hear the noise I'm just like fuck. Well I have my kids kid, my sister's kids here, like last last weekend we played, went play baseball. You mean your beloved nephews and nieces? Is that what you mean? My beloved nephews and nieces, I believe that is a technical term. Sisters kids? I don't, God. It did sound kind of dispassionate. I wasn't going to say something about it, it was a bit clinical. My distant relatives. Look, my cousin seniors.

Niblings? There is a term for this. Is there the collective term for nieces and nephews? Oh, I would love to know what that is. I'd like, it's one of those words that people have made up to fill the purpose, not like an old school one. Yeah, it means niece or nephew, nibbling. And we went out on the field to play some baseball and I gave it a good whack and they kind of ran like halfway down the field and then just stopped and I'm like no no it's

fine just just go and then they got swooped but they've got to learn at some point right like like number one they don't actually hit you. If you don't run, you just walk confidently like a seven-year-old, I assume, you mean it's seven-year-old. You've never done seven in your entire life. Well, this story reminds me of one of my favorite traumatic memories, which is, uh, we went over to somebody's house. I don't know who the fucks house this was because I sure is shit and never went back. It was like a friend of the family or a friend of my parents or something.

And we went over to these people's house. I had not been there before, but their kids were out of the front the front their front, and they were playing with their dog, they were playing golden retriever. And they were throwing the ball for it, out into the front yard and onto the road, the dog was running out and grabbing it and coming back. And so my parents started talking to their parents and then they were like, okay, you guys happy to play out here and then they went inside. And one of these kids gave the ball to me and said, you throw it. And I threw the ball and the dog ran for it out into the street and he was immediately struck by a car in front of all of us. Holy fuck! She was fucking nailed by this car. And you've, I tell you, you think that you've felt awkward

at a stranger's house, you know, you've like, you've spilled a drink or broken a glass or something and been like, oh, I don't even know anybody here. Well wait until you've had their beloved golden retriever moaned down in front of their children on the very first throw of the ball too. It wasn't like we'd been doing it for a while. Oh my God. Jesus, that's a lot. So the parents came out, parents came out to all the crying and scooped up this dog with its bleeding head.

I think the dog was fine. I think it just kind of got clipped and had a cut in the head or whatever. It wasn't like smushed in front of all the kids or anything. And we went home. Because obviously they had some stuff to deal with. I hope you're listening to this on your Monday morning commute, you've dragged yourself out of bed, you've put your shoes on. You've done it. You're in the move for some fun. There's a fucking... I'm sorry about this show. Not for the first time. But anyway so that's, that's what comes to mind when I think of the thinks... th th. th th th th. th. I thi. I thi. I the the thi. I the the thi. I thi. I the the thi. I the the thi. I thi to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to thi to the. Not for the first time. But anyway, so that's what comes to mind when I think of Theo sacrificing his nibblings to the blovers.

You know? Cool. Yeah, so we've got a weird, weird Jesus freak for a Prime Minister now, but it probably won't be like that for very long. So you know, don't really have to worry about it. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. I put too much thought into it. Uh, this is a big sidebar. And honestly, it's probably terrible practice to bring up a joke from another podcast on your podcast, but I was losing it when make reference to someone on a TV show saying fist bump to the big man and the other one just immediately goes, Shaq?

Shack. Who's in the apartment above mine? You can hear his footsteps whenever he does anything. You would absolutely be able to hear that. I remember in the 90s when all anybody wanted to talk about was Shaq's shoe size. And what size is that? Oh, like 20 million. Just gigantic. They were like those, you know, they'd have like cardboard cutouts of real life-sized Shaq and a thing of the actual size of his shoe that you could look at.

Wild stuff. Wild stuff. Anyway, it's got a... Wait, where was that? In like the Smithsonian or? No, just all over the place in shopping centers. Grocerstores, schools, libraries. Hospitals, churches.

Churches, definitely churches. You'd go in and they'd say, look at this miracle of a man. We know the creator is real. Because this mother fuckers feet are huge. Look at what God has built for you, this marvel of a man and the star of the film. Blue Chips, also featuring Nick Nolte, Shaquille O'Neal.

What a man. Beautiful gigantic man. I still need to get around to watching the movie he was in the superhero movie, Steel. Oh, fuck. That comes up as a pre-movie trailer on so many of my tapes all the time. Constantly. There are like a couple of movies that are massively overrepresented in the tapes that I have for some reason and it's basically that and this bizarre Australian drama film called I Live With Me Dad.

What the fuck? I am not making that up. Can we go around, can we just do a little round here of, um, everybody doing a delivery of that title? I will live with me dad. I think quite close. Oh, well, what is this movie? I'll live with me dad. I live with me dad. I live with my dad.

Oh, you clearly said my dad. Fuck. You just don't have that street urchin quality about you. That's true. Oh my god. Oh wow. This is, all right, so this is the synopsis of the movie on the Wikipedia page. It was slightly out of the tone of your regular Wikipedia article.

I live with me dad as a 1985 TV movie produced by Crawford's Australia. The film is about six-year-old Crispy who lives with his destitute father Sid. Based on a true story, it follows the street adventures of a father and son, and he's unconventional upbringing, a heartwarming film that explores the extraordinary bond between a father and his son amidst the pressures and emotions of those who would want to separate them. It's just Curly Sue. It's just exactly what that title told me it would be about.

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What was the, I don't even know if they do it anymore. I feel like, you know how there's like Bafter Awards, and there's ARIA awards and stuff, was there an Australian movie award? The Barry's I think. ReallyRIA Awards and stuff. Was there an Australian movie award? The Barry's, I think. Really? No. No. The Bazars.

There's definitely some kind of award, right? The Barry is the comedy award's named after the trans-fob. Oh, great. Oh, great. Is it the AFI awards? Australian film instudeen. Film industry? Yeah, no, that sounds good. I thought that was the American Film Institute. Oh, maybe I've just made that up. I don't know. I could be very wrong. Hmm. We are off-track here folks. That's true. What's the show of that? Oh, hang on. The Australian Academy of Ciner and Television Arts Awards. What was the actors? Oh, actors? Oh, I get it. Oh, I get it. And the awards are the awards are the awards are the awards are the awards are the awards are the awards are the awards are the. I get it. And the awards are presented annually by the AFI. Ben.

Wow, there is also an American film institute, so there are two AFIs. Well, we're allowed to have a thing. There's three. I don't. Not counting the band. Presented by AFI. Just presented by AFI. Every award. Davy Havacs out there. Yeah, anytime you say that, Theo, I'm immediately imagining you with the Davy Havoc hair from that era. I did not know the name of the singer from AFI. I clearly did. Very clearly. It was not even a beat before you came in with that.

Oh my goodness. Speaking of music, speaking of music festivals. Yeah, you like that Ben? Yeah. I saw a story in the news the other day that was not about music or music festivals. It was about a guy from an Australian council, like a local council who had, was getting into trouble for inappropriate discretionary spending, usage of taxpayer funding. And he'd been using it for stuff like just buying himself a barbecue and like slacks of beer and stuff and I was like...is that a crime? Yeah. Well, I remember my thought, my main thought being when I, when I looked at the list of things he

had bought, my main thought was just, well come on, you can't do that. Like it's pretty obvious, you can't just go down to barbecues galore and hook yourself up with a foreburner and just say, oh, put it on my expenses car. Let me ask your question. Did he do exactly that? Probably. And it seems like you can. Well, until now when he has been found out for it.

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Well, I mean, look, obviously in Australian politics particularly This is a very very recurrent theme around Spending great sums of taxpayer money on like What do they normally call it fact-finding? Innovation and missions and that kind of thing where it's yeah, it's always like? Yeah somebody from the office of fucking education or something just like, goes on a 10-city tour of Europe. It goes in states and all these resorts and it's like, for ideas. Yeah, I had a 15-minute meeting with someone at a university in each of those towns, you know.

Yeah. And this seems to fall very squarely into that basket. Two tourism and events Queensland executives have spent more th thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thouse thoen thoen thoe thoenole thoen thoe tho-a tho-a tho-a-a-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a tho-a-a tho-a thoes thoes thoes thoes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-a-a-a-a-s, tho'-s, to'-s.ea-s. to'-so'-so'-so'-so'-so'-so'-so'-s'-s, tho'-s, tho' squarely into that basket. Two tourism and events Queensland executives have spent more than $20,000 of taxpayer money attending a wild festival in the US state of Nevada. Known as Burning Man. I'm not going to respect them enough to say properly. That's where Las Vegas, the city of Sin lives. Ah, I see. I get it. It's also where Area 51 is. Well, is it? It is? It? It? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? th. It is? thi. It is thi. It is thi. It is thi. It is thi. It is thi. It is thi. It is thi. It. I get it. And it's also where Area 51 is. Well, is it? It is?

It is? No, it is. Oh, did you see Area 51? I went there. Did you look at it from a great distance and then get scared and leave? I mean I saw some signs. It's not a crime to be scared of guns, okay? And men with them. I thought you're going to say it's not a crime to be scared of aliens and I was like, fair enough.

No, the aliens I welcome. I believe aliens to be friendly in nature, although I don't like that they've allied with the government. Hmm, agree. The nine-day festival is held in the Black Rock Desert designed for a community, quote, dedicated to radical self-reliance. And quote, where everyday constraints are thrown out the window. Everyday constraints like bathing. Underpants. They're talking about underpants. Condoms.

Constrain, yeah. Newly released government figures show senior public servants attended last year on behalf of the Queensland government. What the fuck? Head of group executive events at Tourism and Events Queensland, John Drummond Montgomery and head of events operations, Rebecca Mantle spent a combined $20,060 dollars. Document shows a pair met, like that's a fucking party. I'm going to get you off some first class flights over there. Jesus Christ. Rent your RV.

For ideas. Just looking for ideas. Get some sick ideas. Documents show the pair, quote, met with key international event partners and went to quote, gain insights into current trends, ideas, themes and logistics of a large-scale festival. Well, there's no possible way you could investigate any of that, other than by going to Burning Man. You can't email the founders, you have to go and watch like the CEO of Berbler, the app that tells you when to Burble,

stumble around on fucking acid for seven days while sexually harassing a bunch of hippies from the Midwest. Yeah. Now, he couldn't have possibly just gone under his own steam, because Mr. Drummond Montgomery, what a fucking name. That is, he's the bad guy from like an 80s college movie. I'm Dean Drummond Montgomery. He couldn't possibly have gone just by himself because he only earns a salary of $317,000 a year. Jesus Christ. Who is this guy? He is the head of group executive events at tourism and events, Queensland.

I'm gonna hit him. What? I'm gonna hit him in his face. He's not even like the fucking CEO of Queensland. The CEO of Queensland. And he makes $317,000 here. He took at least three trips in the past financial year, including an $11, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, $1,000,000,000,000, $1,000,000, $1,000, $ $ $1,000,000, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 trips in the past financial year, including an $11,000 events mission to the US with tourism minister Kate Jones and a $45,000 trip to Thailand. Oh boy. Wow. What do you spend $45,000 in Thailand?

Yeah, what the fuck would you spend that, that's like a shit ton of cocktails. It's so many cocktails. It's a lot of, that's all, just cocktails. Just so many moped rentals, you know. 45,000 trips to Thailand with two other public servants for the annual Sport Accord Conference. Ah, but you can't miss Sport Accord. Which we come together over the accord of sport conference. Ah, but you can't miss sport accord. Which we come together over the accord of sport. Deputy opposition leader Tim Mander slammed the cost of the burning man trip. Quote, most Queenslanders would find this obscene to spend almost $30,000 to attend

a festival run by a private company with no tangible benefits for the state. Well, I mean, I got a hearty chuckle out of this, so one tangible benefit. Which is? The hearty chuckle. That was the benefit that I got out of it. Oh, oh. I thought that was... Sorry, it was very tangible to me. Okay. A tech, that is T-EQ, the tourism and events, Queensland, which apparently has enough fucking money to pay this dude $317,000. Jesus Christ. A tech spokeswoman said the executives were researching for a similar festival they hoped would

be launched in Outback Queensland. Fuck off. And what the fuck would the government have to do with it? That'd be so funny. Why would the go? How many people go to Burning Man? Like a million. Like, just, like, I think this is what's doing my head in about this, is the idea

that there are like, well, A, that there aren't huge music festivals in Australia that they could already go to and look at how those get put on. Just constantly failing as well by the way. Yeah, yeah, but what if falling over, like dominoes? Yep, just regular sized festivals that can't make enough money. Oh, we'd better go and look at the one with 600,000 people at it. Yeah, yeah, but what if instead if it was it was it was it was it was it was i i their their their their there there there there there there there there there there was i there there was i there was, there was, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there there are, there are there's there's, there are, there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there, there there, there there, there, there there there, there there, there there, there there, there there there, there, there there th. th. th. th. there's, th. there's, th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. there are, there's, there's, there's, there's,000 people out of the fucking desert. What if instead of music it was like a bunch of people raw-dogging in a desert? And someone added me earlier this evening to be like, actually there are quite a few burner events already in the outback. And we know there's fucking bush doofs? Yeah bush doves. Like, this is not news.

Jesus Christ. Uh, Burning Man is not news. Jesus Christ. Uh, Burning Man is a benchmark event for large-scale festivals held in remote locations, she said. Two tech representatives went to examine aspects of the event delivery to inform an outback event concept we are currently developing. That included event logistics, safety and communications. Like, to me, the idea that the Queensland government is going to put on a fucking, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, fu, a fucking, a fucking, a fucking, fu, a fucking, fu, fu, a fucking, fu, a fucking, a fucking, fu, a fucking, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, fu, bu fucking, bu fucking, bu fucking, bu fucking, bu-fu, bu fucking, bu-fu, bu-fu, bu and communications. Like to me the idea that the Queensland government is going to put on a fucking gigantic drug mecca in the outback. It's fucking moronic anyway. Oh my god. One that they won't do pill testing

at either. That's right. Why would they? Why would they? Yeah, that was a whole bummer, wasn't it? That festival in Penrith? Was it in Penrith? I'm not sure. Defcon 1? I think it was called? I'm saying everything was a question mark at the ink so I'm not 100? It is. Yeah, Defcon. Dot. Dot one. I believe the name is styled as I'm not. Oh, Defcon. Defcon. They're eventually going to work their way up to one. Unless New South Wells Premier Gladys Berrigley and gets her way, and she will ban that particular festival. Because that's probably the only one anyone was ever going to take drugs out. But yeah.

Yeah, probably they had. What was it was like several deaths, it was two or three deaths and like 14 overdoses or something at this festival. And then they, to solve the problem, they got together a panel of non-experts. There's like one person from the government, one person who is a policeman and one person who was maybe a festival organizer, I think. And then before the investigation into increasing drug safety at festivals even took place, the government said, even if they find that pill testing is accurate, like is the way to go and recommend it,

the government will not endorse it or do it. Cool. Thanks for being a government. Love that leadership. I love that strong decision-making. Yeah, I think they've started trialing pill testing in the ABCC, the ACT. So they did it at a recent Australian... God damn it. ACT. Music Festival. Mm-hmm. And guess how many people died at that one? Was it zero?

It was zero. Zero overdoses. Apparently it's the thing that the police and paramedics call for and say, hey, it just makes our job a shitload easier because we know what the fuck is happening when something starts going wrong. or whatever. they're, they. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, they, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um. Um. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, um, um, um, um, um, um, hey, it just makes our job a shit load easier because we know what the fuck is happening when something starts going wrong or whatever. Or people just don't fucking OD in the first place. I saw quite a few journalists talking about this, where they were saying like, the main thing that all of these comments reflect is that we have people in positions of senior leadership in the government who just very genuinely to try and to that that tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to that that to to that to to told told told to to tho tho tho tho that that that that that that thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to to told to to to told to to told told to to told to told to to told told to to told that that that that the of these comments reflect is that we have people in positions of senior leadership

in the government who just very genuinely do not know what pill testing is. Like they very genuinely don't seem to understand the concept. Or they do, but they would rather see more in order and dead kids. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably about it. I mean, well, the whole, it's, I don't know, the entire thing is extremely weird in the same way that any kind of prohibition or war on drugs type shit is.

It is stuff that we have seen over time again and again and again, just does not work. People are going to engage in that kind of behavior. So the only thing you can really do is just try to help the people mitigate risk. And it's just the absolutely absurd, steadfast refusal to do that that really does my head in. This idea that like if you were to make pill to, I like it's it's one of those like you know close but no cigar things where they go, but oh well if we make pill testing available we're basically saying to people it's all right to do these drugs and it's not even a crime. It's like well almost almost there. Come on get on board. buke. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th th th th th th th th th th the thi. thi. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the. the. the. the. theateateateateateateateateal. teal. teal. teal. teal. thea. thea. thea. thea. the., almost. Yeah, almost there. Go on. Get on board. But, you know, we're

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States rights, we're gonna do that shit. I'd legislate for it here. Don't know if our legal system is set up that way. Sure, probably is. Sure. Sure. Sure. Well, I mean, you know, we had things like the ACT legislating for same-sex marriage, and then it was only after that point that the federal government came in and passed the law. Am I remembering that correctly?

No idea. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. Wasn't there a thing where, I don't know, it was relatively complicated, there was a thing where it looked like the ACT was going to have a way to do it and then, I don't know, I can't quite recall. I don't know if I've, no, I'm probably not remembering this correctly at all, but I thought it was that they legalized in the ACT, AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC the the the the th and the th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tho, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, but I thought it was that they legalized in the ACT and that was when Howard's government passed the changes to the marriage. Oh no you're absolutely right, it was wasn't it? So you know that classic shit where conservatives love to talk about

individual rights and states rights and all that sort of stuff until it conflicts with something that they're into, in which case they are very happy for the federal government to come in and crack down and tell people that they can't do that. So that's cool. Love it. Thank you. Conservatives. Sweet big dickhead conservatives. Folks, shall we take a couple of letters from the mail bag before we get out of here?

Yes. Hmm. Because we've got a whole bunch of them and we're probably going to go and answer the rest on the old Patreon. Let's see here. Let's see here. Hmm. Friend of the show, Matthew Turner asks, please discuss if it really do be like that. Sometimes. Sometimes it do. Sometimes it do. Sometimes it don't. I don't know about that. Agree to disagree. Hmm. For end of the show, Average Gamer, who I believe is also known as Nick on the Discord. That's right,

there's a one to visit a Discord. Says, with Andrews Busy and Pussy tweets making him the worst hosts. Which of the other three hosts is the third best? Jokes on you buddy. Theo has already declared in his Twitter bio that he is the third funniest host. But not necessarily the third third best. Yeah there are a lot of qualities that make a host. Yeah. Handsomeness, regalingness, charm, devilishness. Yes. It's my one quality that I bring to this show. This feels like one of those puzzles you get where you're given like two bits of information about something and you

have to figure out all of the, yeah I'm not describing this great. Yeah, who's older than you all that shit? Yeah, so if Andrew is the worst and Theo is the third best, who is the third worst? Oh my, was, I was, um, visiting my parents a while ago. And I was like doing a bunch of Sudoku's and my mom was like, oh, you like, oh, you like logic puzzles, do you? Here you go, and gave me this book, and it was just fucking full of these things that were all like, yeah, so if Sally likes tomatoes, and this guy does like there, but the other people't like that and I just immediately slammed the book and threw it across the room I was like no you still have it because not be engaging in that can you send it to me I'll send you I'll take some pictures of it sounds nice gonna go

see him this weekend yeah I think you have two minutes of spare time coming up the next two months so that'll be really good wonderful just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just a the the the the their. I their. I I the their. I their. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm just th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm time to watch the compiling shaders screen in No Man Sky before quitting immediately and then going to bed. The title refers to how you cannot play it. Oh dear. Hmm. Now I did ask a weird question about Theo's trouser size when I posted this request for questions. Okay, all right, I'm game. Why don't... Hold on, hold on. A friend of the show, Justin, says, the people don't care about Theo's trouser size. Well, there you care. Instead, we care about everyone's trouser size. What is the average trouser size of the Buntavista cast? Damn. This is not going to work because you got the man

trouser sizes. What do you think different? But I mean don't even know how women's wo work. You can get inch ones for women from Uniclo. So I guess it will work. I mean you can't convert though like a size 12 is you know like an amount of inches, right? No, it completely depends on the brand, it's fucked up. And which, um, I don't even know which system is which. What? What do you mean? Like, well, there's different measurement systems, right? Yes. Not between, not between male and female, but like, even within...

Aren't the man ones just in inches? Men are primarily inches. Unless, I don't know, for some reason the pants at Target are in centimetres. Couldn't tell you why. That's strange. I'll start off for many, many moons. I've been a 32, but in recent months I've blown out to a 34, folks. Oh, you've got a little tidy waist.

It's funny you should say that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, 34 folks. You've got a little tidy waist. It's funny you should say that. I went from a 30 to a 32 recently. Which I would have thought I would have been slightly broader than you were. You're a taught man, you got a taught body. Yes, but I also have not done any form of exercise for this entire year. And my all of my beer and candies going on my tummy. He do love your beer and candies. He does he loves the beer and the candies. God I do. And Theo you're gonna tell us you've gone for a 26 to a 28. I will bring up up the Vanguard and I am a 26 or a sling 28. I fucking nailed it. I knew it. I knew you were a 26. Okay. So what is that what is that averages out of?

I'm uh... Do you want to get involved in this Lucy or? Mine are definitely different? Because the ladies ones are measured at the upper waist, not at the pants waist. So mine are 28 and 2 thirds average. Ah, thank you, Theo. Someone with a calculator can work that out. Theo, our resident a mathematician has worked it out. It's exactly that. Well done Theo.

And of course we will get, I get a beloved friend of the show Carl to check Theo's work. If you can do a linear regression on that Carl, really appreciate that. Yeah. Folks, that's going to do us for this week. We did receive anywhere up to I guess over 30 more questions when we asked for questions. So we're going to go and take those over on the bonus episodes if you are a listener, but you have not gone on to the bonus episodes. They are on Patreon. You can go over to Patreon. to the toom. For the sum of only five American dollars a month, I can't tell you exactly what the exchange rate is right now or on the day that you are listening to this

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We're going to step into the next room where we do the bonus episodes. And answer all these questions. Quick crime pass. You are allowed to use company funds to go to Burning Man. Yeah. Whether you'd want to, that's on you. But... Is that transferable to a different music that's all? Nope. Absolutely. And you can't just like go to Nevada and then do something else. You've got to like fucking put on your steampunk goggles where

you're fucking leather harness and nothing else and then go around trading like wilted corn in exchange for bottled water. And look, let me just put it out there, don't be the guy who gets way too high and runs into the burning man at the end of the festival, self-immolating and turning himself into tiny ashes. It's getting a bit overplayed. 70 people died at the last one. Sorry, how many?

70 people took Iowaska and then ran straight into the burning man. Anything serious? No. I was like 70 seems too high. I thought it was like two or three people had ever run into the burning in total. Yeah, more than once. Some than once somebody has come tearing out of the bed. Has that happened? Yeah, more than once. Holy fuck. More than once

somebody has come tearing out of the crowd and run into the gigantic... Didn't it happen like last year? Yeah, the gigantic Wicca Man effigy and instantly been vaporized, as you could imagine. Really big fans of the film Silent Hill, I think. Theo, have you ever seen the film Wicker man? No, I haven't. I've seen the bees. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tiea tiea the crowd. Oh tiea. Oh tieaer. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, the. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. think. Theo have you ever seen the film Wickerman? No I haven't I've seen the bees. Both of the no not the Nick Cage one Jesus Christ. With the bees we won't have to take this on the boat as well. You want to watch the both movies are good. Both movies are good. Stop fighting. The original with Edward Woodwood, which is a great name, and Christopher Lee. Beautiful sexy pagan Christopher Lee. Pagan cult leader Christopher Lee. You want to see a bunch of hot 60s British ladies getting just too horny for their own

good. And fucking a wall sort of while singing a weird folk song. That's right. And a song that was covered by Snake a head. I would a good. I would have a great. And the their the the name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name name. the name name name name. the name name name. the name. the name name. the name name name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. And. And. And the name. And the name. And the name. the name the name the name. And the name the name the name the name. And the name. And the name. And the name. And the name. And the name name. And the name name name. And the name. And the name name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the. the the horny for their own good. And fucking a wall sort of while singing a weird folk song. That's right. And then a cage that was covered by snakeheads I would add. Full of these. Dynamite movie folks, check it out. Wicca Man, 1970 somethings probably, Wicca Man. And Theo needs to watch it too, because then you'll really get why you would just want to be immolated inside a giant wicker effigy. Like the multiple people who have done it, are Burning Man.

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