Boonta Vista - EPISODE 72: Just The Two Of Us

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

Monkey and the Big Fella are here to tell you all about The Young White Nationals and the gender craze that is TEARING THE UNIVERSE APART. Also, letters. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Pointy Vista episode 72. I'm Andrew and it's just little old me with little old Ben. I mean, you don't have to talk it down. You don't have to play it like we're not that important. It's just us. We're okay. Oh how about this? You got the big guns here. You got the big guns. I wish you introduced us like daytime radio hosts morning trivers. The big guns. What was it called Monkey in the big fella? Fuck it hell. Oh, this country is amazing.

Oh, for your context, folks. There was a press release that came out from the Prime Minister's office the other day talking about what he would be doing with his day. And just one of the line items was the talk back radio show he would be appearing on, entitled, Monkey and the Big fella. And that's just perfect. It's just priceless. That's where you really want your prime minister hanging out, given his thoughts, given

his feelings. It's super good that there's no way to really parody that those naming conventions where where you're absolutely certain that it's made up. Like because people try to do it on Twitter all the time where the t time. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, th, th, th, th's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th's just just just just just just just just just thi's just just just just just just just just thi's just just just just thi's just thi, thi, it's just, it's just, thi, that, those naming conventions where you're absolutely certain that it's made up. Because people try to do it on Twitter all the time where they're like fuck-o and the bean and like the only way you know that it's not real is because they've used a swear word. But like they're all so god-dam stupid. The one that always sticks in my head is, my head is like a Fitsy and Whipper. Oh, yeah.

And I've never heard the show or anything. It's just the name that sticks in my head. I just assume their massive fuckwits right off the cuff. You have to assume, you know. And it was when that news story was around of like the it was the the people from the British show who caught no the Australian show and they called they called like a hospital in the UK that the Royals were in when was it like the royal baby or something and they were like I am the royal baby or something. And they were like, I am the queen and I must speak to whoever.

And this woman put them through, this nurse put them through. And it turned into a big thing. And then the lady killed herself. And because they're the names that stick in my head. I just, I made a joke about it on Twitter saying like, Fitsy to be drawn and courted. And, um, and like, there was just a reply to this tweet that was from Fitsy of Fitsy and Whipper saying, what the hell?

Ph-Ph-Itsy? What the hell? And I was like, I'm just going to leave that alone, I'm just gonna leave that alone. I don't need to get into it with fitsy. No. Fitsy and Whipper, Jesus Christ. You're right though, they are all. Each as dumb as the last. Mm-hmm. Extravagantly stupid.

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It's Matt Monk and Maddy Stewart. Do it some real investigative research here. Oh, he's bigish. Yeah. This is the visual portion of the podcast. Where we look at pictures and try and describe it to you? If you've got a hand-free, I recommend looking at your device, Googling monkey and the big fella. Yeah, you know what? He's not that big. He's a regular sized guy to my eye. Oh, they used to, monkey, if anything, looks kind of small. They used to have a third person on the show. It was monkey loggy, loggy. Fuck off off off off off off off off off off off. the, uh off off. the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I, uh, I, I, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the third person on the show. It was Monkey Loggy and the big fella.

Loggy. Fuck off. I hate it. I hate it. So good, good place for the Prime Minister to hang out. Give his absolutely inane thoughts and feelings about things. It's all going well for all, umthe Scotty Morrison, dumbest Prime Minister. I don't know how... I don't know... He might be one of the worst. I think... I mean

obviously policy-wise he's still got a lot of time to catch up to a lot of the other PMs but he was kind of a sleeper cell. I thought he was just going to be same old Liberal Party bullshit, but even more boring in terms of his presentation. But he's just somehow been the most aggressively stupid. I think maybe it's because he's coming at a time where they really, really need to court votes because of how terribly they're doing. So they're getting even more desperate and they're doing stupid shit, but it all seems ill-considered,

it gives off a definite impression that they don't really know what they're doing. So it just comes across as very incompetent. Yeah, I was kind of surprised. I didn't think it was going to be this much. Well, I feel like this whole thing is following like this creepily similar trajectory to the whole Malcolm Turnbull thing. Where Tony Abbott was in and everyone was like, well, this is as bad as it can get. This is just as aggressively stupid as the whole thing can get, you know. Then Malcolm Turnbull got in and had a little bit of a high, and everyone was like, ah, he knows what he's doing, and then he made it very clear very quickly that he was just going to do whatever, you know,

the right wing of his party said, you have to do this, or we will throw you out. Completely compromised and everything. And it also just very quickly turned into like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like or we will throw you out. Completely compromised and everything. And it also just very quickly turned into like, oh we had this little honeymoon period and now they're really clearly just making stuff up on the run, throwing shit at the wall, they don't have any like actual ideas. And then I wound up saying, I'm sure I've said on the show, I wound up saying about Scott Morrison, I'm sorry about Malcolm Turnbull, like I almost feel like he's worse or will have a worse legacy than Tony Abbott. Because as much of an absolute psychopath as Tony Abbott is, you still also got the vibe that at least he believed in the awful shit

he was saying like at least he had the the convictions of his terrible terrible principles were like you know you got to feel like maybe he wouldn't have prosecuted so many like insanely unpopular agendas if he were willing to just say, oh actually I would just like to be popular and loved. But no, he barreled on ahead with it and then yeah, Turnbull, it was just this absolute void of conviction. It was just him the whole time going, whatever it takes to keep this afloat. And now...

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caught the car. So Tony Abbott got in, but kind of not on his own merits. You know, people were very unhappy with labor. As people say, you know, you don't win elections, governments lose them, or whatever it is. Like incumbents lose them. And people were very angry at labor over the whole Rudd thing and and just pretty disillusioned in general. And, you know, Tony Abbott wasn't actually running on doing anything. The only thing he was running on was we will repeal some stuff and stop spending money. There

weren't actually any like policies, any plans to do anything. And he got in and it became immediately apparent that all he was going to do and all he was ever going to do was just be combative and as soon as he had won the prize and was in charge he was like, who can I fight? And it didn't really work and so the whole thing went down the to toilet. Turnbull then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then th and the th and thin-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-up the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the prize and was in charge, he was like, who can I fight? And it didn't really work. And so the whole thing went down the toilet. Turnbull then got in and you could see exactly like you're saying, very, very proud man who was obviously extremely pleased with himself for the way that he had swept in and said, what you guys need is a smart toff like me to tell you how to fucking suck eggs. And he got in and went, awesome. Well done me, was then cucked every single day for the rest of his time in there. And

like you said, you can see on his face so many photos of him just looking like he's just watched his dog get run over him, run over in front of him, you know. Please do not bring up dogs being run over. We've had complaints. That's true. I'll upset a few people's story there. The dog lived. The dog lived, everybody. And while we're on it, the whale also lived.

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How about we mean in the middle and they subscribe to the show but they don't listen to the Patreon exclusive episode, Moby Dickhead. But yeah, and now Scott Morrison seems to have also, you know, inherited this poison jalous of he's, you know, played the, he's played the smart, long game. There's all the speculation that he kind of like, you know, duped Matthias Korman into giving support to the wrong people. And, you know, he got to stand next to Turnbull the whole time time thime. thime. thime. thime. thi the thi. thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi, and thi, and thi, that- that, that, that, and that, and that, that, that, that, and that, and that, and th. And, and now, and now, and now, and now, and now, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, thi, tha, tha, tha, that, that that that that that, that, thed Matthias Korman into giving support to the wrong people and, you know, he got to stand next to Turnbull the whole time and say, I totally support him right up to the end and then they were like, right, knife's going in, who's it going to be? And he went, oh, definitely me. And Morrison has managed to become the Prime Minister, again, obviously something that he's had aspirations

to, even from the point that he was the immigration minister, and obviously people thought that was the unwinnable portfolio, and he did well with that in the eyes of right-leaning voters. And like people talk about him, it's like with Barnaby Joyce where people talk about Scott Morrison like he, I guess before this point, like he's the best retail politician in the country, you know? And the same about Barnaby Joyce. People talk about that shit with the like, yeah he doesn't really represent the people of his electorate very well. Yeah, you know lots of people hate him. But he's the best retail politician in the country and I'm like, who the fuck believes that? Who listens to Barnaby Joyce and goes, yeah? There's a man who

knows what he's doing, the man who's got it all together? People that are easily tricked by a big hat. I guess so. Do I hear a wild ambulance somewhere, Nature Corner? Yeah, that counts as Nature Corner, surely. Hmm. But, um, I was speaking of Barnaby and the Nationals, uh, oh, oh, yeah. There's been some business going on with the Nationals lately. Where, I guess it was several weeks ago, can you remember the name of the guy who did the report? I can't, unfortunately, but the name of the podcast that he works for, his name is Alex something, it's going to really bother me that I can't remember it.

So the name of the podcast is Background Briefing, which is basically like the ABC's equivalent of a sort of long-forn journalism thing in the style of, like, say, NPR, that sort of stuff. And they did this investigation, and I'm not really sure how they got the tip off for this but they found that Alex man Alex man Alex man that's right two ends two ends Yeah so they found that these right-wing groups like fucking the one that Blair Cottrell started and then now says that he has nothing to do with the true lad society oh I thoughtthought I thought he's also a former member of True Blue Crew. Well I thought that True Blue Crew had then spun off a this Lad Society thing as an attempt to kind of start afresh with the image, you know?

It's well yeah I think at the moment Blair Cottrell is not taking credit for any of it but he's clearly heavily involved in all of it but yeah they found out that these groups were starting gyms and fight clubs and all this shit with the idea that they would be able to recruit people into their ranks and also that they would be able to through the gyms they were planning to start finance their lifestyle so they would be able to recruit people into their ranks and also that they would be able to through the gyms they were planning to start finance their lifestyles so they could dedicate their lives to being fucking Nazis full-time. But yeah, so this reporter found out that they were sending members of their groups into regional New South Wales National Party groups or branches

and then branch stacking to vote their members into positions of power so that they could shift the NATS agenda to the far right and the moment the NATs found out about this, they said, fuck, yanks. They said, no, you're saying the moment the Nats found out about this, they said, fuck, yanks. They said, no, you're saying the quiet part loud. Yeah, more or less. I love the idea that like the party, who were like one of their most vocal and publicly visible ministers, or senators, minister, for years, um, George Christensen,

who, like, goes on fucking Dingo Twitter alt-right podcasts and... Yeah, well that's something I found quite interesting is that the Daily Telegraph hopped on this story after the ABC broke it because they saw the list of members of the New South World Nats that were being investigated for this. So they published a story about that and then at the bottom they broke down all the alt-right groups involved in this so they went you know Lad Society, True Blue Crew and then the Dingoes and somehow failed to mention after writing like two paragraphs on the Dingoes did not mention even once that Nat's MP, George Christensen, had been on their podcast,

the convict report. And like, which he sits, he apologized for, because BuzzFeed chased him down about it. The good people at BuzzFeed Australia were like, hey, how come you were on this racist, anti-Semitic podcast, and then later he went, I've just found out out out out out out out out out out that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thue, thue, thue, thue, thus, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, the the the the the the the their, had had had the the the the the the the the the the the the their, had their, had their, had, had their, had, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and somehow, and thi, and somehow, thi, and some thi, and some thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, like, hey, how come you were on this racist anti-Semitic podcast? And then later he went, I've just found out that the racist anti-Semitic podcast I was on was racist and anti-Semitic. Oh, they go a bit far with that. Because the first time they talked to him, that's what he said.

He was like, oh, some of the jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes, it he disavowed everything. Which I mean you know that sort of stuff for me is just just pathetic as far as like trying to plead ignorance to that kind of shit at that point like. It's definitely dial racism like trying to push it as far as you can and then when you caught out just being like oh what that's crazy. But you know he's also like given speeches at Reclaim Australia rallies and shit like that. So, you know, nothing surprising there. So I saw a little follow-up report about this from Michael Cosio at the Sydney Morning Herald saying, Nationals members resign on mass amid investigation into neo-Nazi ties. So again, from the report there was like, um, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's, that's, the, that's, the, the, that's, that's, that's, the, that's, the, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, you, you, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, that's, th. Yeah, that's, that's, the, the, that's, the, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the, the, that, the, the, the, the,, from the report, there was like, the evidence that there had been branch stacking, which for our international listeners, because is that just an Australian term, branch

stacking? Yeah, it might be actually. Which if I'm correct, and I might not be, involves you know getting a whole bunch of people to show up at meetings of your political party and vote in favor of a particular thing, all that sort of stuff. Yeah, it's essentially flooding a branch with people sympathetic to either your candidate or your policies or whatever so that you can force things to go your way when it comes down to vote. Yep, so... and like a bunch of these gnats, because they're all, in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thi, in thi. thi. thi. thi. of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. the. the. to. the. to. the. the. the. thi. th. can force things to go your way when it comes down to vote. Yep, so.

And like a bunch of these gnats, because they're all in rural areas, a lot of the people interviewed for these stories noted that there are a bunch of city folk coming out and they couldn't figure out why. You have a bunch of people from Sydney because they're all upper-class rich shiots, all these fucking racist dudes. And yes, and they had, you know, photos of them all out at dinner together, all doing the winky white power hand signal, and all that sort of shit.

So it says in this report here, a group of about 15 nationals members have resigned amid an investigation into their alleged ties to neo-Nazi and fascist groups the party is investigating up to 35 New South Wales members for links to alt-right white supremacist and other radical groups in what federal leader Michael McCormick described as intolerable situation. The cohort under investigation represents a sizable chunk of the youth wings membership in New South Wales, which is

understood to number about 300. In a letter to state director Ross Cadell suspended young Nation's executive member Clifford Jennings claimed the party had subjected him and others to, quote, trial by media. He also accused the party of leaking private information about members and conspiring with the ABC and other radical forces, including anti-fascist blog the White Roe Society. Nothing worse than conspiring with anti-fascists. Mr. Jen Rose Society. Nothing worse than conspiring with anti-fascists. Mr. Jennings tended his resignation on Wednesday afternoon along with about 15 others. Mr. Jennings a former Liberal Party member.

Oh, what a fucking surprise. This is like that shit I saw a thing online about a guy running for, running on the Republican ticket for office in the States and his own children were saying he is a Nazi who says stuff like Hitler is right and he is a scumbag, and he absolutely shouldn't be running for office. And you know, this person was noting, isn't it so weird how all the, all the neo-Nazis always just happen to be running for the Republicans. what a weird coincidence, the thi thi th th th th th th thin thin thin thtie ththa ththa thin thin thin thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thi thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thin thin thin th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thin the the things things things things things things things things the things thin the thin the thin thin the thin the thin't it so weird how all the neo-Nazis always just happened to be running for the Republicans? What a weird coincidence that that just happens to always be the way that it shakes out? Isn't it so weird that this guy's a formal Liberal Party member?

He was elected to the Young Nationals Executive in May after stacking out a meeting in Lismore with dozens of new recruits from far-right circles. He and other attendees were photographed at Lismore's The Loft Restaurant, making a hand gesture which has been associated with white supremacist groups in the United States. In a 1,300 word letter to party executives, Mr. Jennings suggested that group had used the hand gesture to symbolize Bon Appetit. Holy fuckest. Oh boy, I did not see that. Oh my God. There's nothing I love more than getting 30 people to all do the exact same pose.

30 other young blonde guys with fash haircuts to do the same. And then we all said, ooh, my pizza. My pizza, bye. This is... But it gets really good at the same. And then we all said, ooh, my pizza, my pizza, bye. This is, but it gets really good at this point. This is why I, this is why I made a note of this article. Mr. Jennings told Fairfax that he was not a neo-Nazi or white supremacist and was, quote, 1,000 percent confident that none of the people he signed up to the nationals fitted that description. I had radical opinions two years ago he said. He remained quote a firm believer in immigration reform

and exhorted the politics of US President Donald Trump and Australian businessman Dick Smith. So so far nothing white nationalist sounding so far. Quote, opening Australia to mass third-world immigration is not moderate, it is extremist Mr. Jennings wrote in the letter to the national state executive. The party should be asking why the ABC and other radical forces are seeking to suppress conservative elements in politics. Jesus. And again, nothing, nothing suss so far. He says, it is because young white Australians are rebelling against the hopeless coalition leadership that has dragged down Australia

since the 1970s. They see a grim future for themselves and their children of becoming a minority in their own country. They see that if indiscriminate mass immigration continues and if the oppressive multicultural regime is not overthrown, they will be a persecuted minority. So I really like that he has followed, I'm 1,000 percent sure that neither myself or any of these other people, white supremacists to follow into this like the end times of multiculturalism. A little speech here, very smooth. Very smooth. In a statement, the New South Wales nationals confirmed it had received the resignation

of a number of party members on Wednesday afternoon, it said the Constitution and Ethics Committee's urgent investigation into the far right's alleged infiltration of the party continued. Others caught up in the allegations where Lisa Sanford, another suspended member of the New South Wales Young National's executive and Jeff McCormick who works at a party's federal secretariat. Mr. Cadel previously told News Corp, one of the people under investigation appeared to have been in a quote, Antipodeon Resistance Propaganda video, and expressed quotes that quote, seem to celebrate Adolf Hitler in a very strong way.

Jesus Christ. Nothing suss going on here. I've, I've got an article here from May of this year in the land talking about Clifford Jennings, who at the time I think was maybe, no he wasn't a chair. He was Metro Region Coordinator in the Young, in the New South Wales Young Nats. The headline is, Young Nats appalled as conference motion targets immigrants. So this is something that he submitted. And then there were people that were in the room that were Nats that were saying that the room was packed with racist undertones.

Uh, there's a pardon here where people will contact him about it. Oh yeah, so fucking, when Jennings spoke to the Australian, he said the motion I put forward to the conference was about immigrants wanting to be part of the Australian way of life and no way about race or religion, which absolutely no one bought. And then there's this really great two paragraphs here. Mr. Jennings did not comment when contacted by the land, but earlier confirmed media had prior

links to alt-right websites. A Facebook video from unshackled dated January 2017 shows Mr. Jennings declare a stake in alt-right Australia and the Dingo's XYZZ website which links to white nationalist material. However, he said it was a long time ago. Oh, suppose... January 2017. Yes, I suppose this is why he's saying here, two years ago I had extreme views, but now I'm totally normal and just want all the browns out of my country.

My... He's like, he's not a young guy either. Like, two years is a fucking... Yeah, this is genuinely insane. It just must be such a fucking bummer to be a rural voter and know that the nationals are just a lock in all your areas anyway. And to just be out there trying to just talk to them about normal stuff just a lock in all your areas anyway. And to just be out there trying to just talk to them about normal stuff, you know, like

maybe the actual issues that affect you in your electorate. And instead have the shit taken over by this kind of stuff. A former nationals leader Barnaby Joyce also from New New South Wales, told Fairfax media he had never met anyone in the party who exhibited signs of fascism, but any neo-Nazi had no future in the nationals. He also warned against anonymous accusations, arguing that such claims should be made on the record. Isn't interesting that the person whose career was recently derailed by a whole bunch of

inappropriate conduct would say something like that. Quote, there's nothing that annoys me more than somebody than accusing somebody of something they can't actually prove, Mr. Joyce said, just because someone makes an accusation doesn't make it true. Hey, how do you respond to these these reports of your party being overtaken by young fascists. Look, nothing annoys me more than accusing somebody of something they can't prove. Oh, absolute. Fucking train wreck. It makes you wonder at what point people are just going to kind of pull the plug on the

nationals, you know. I wonder how many, yeah, how many places will wind up having the kind of Kathy McGowan moment, you know? Where, was Sophie Mirabella was so liberal though, wasn't she? Yes. I believe so. And also a huge piece of shit. Uh, just as it aside, while it aside, while Clifford Jennings is talking about, oh, a long time ago I had some terrible views, one of the Facebook conversations that the ABC got a hold of, here is one, which is Clifford Jennings having a conversation with somebody else that's blacked out. So it starts with Clifford saying, I view fascism as being in the interest of my blood, but it's probably better just to call me a nationalist. All I care about is the 14 words.

Someone replies, saying I favor classical liberal, theyfellow, however, they're left of views I take on certain issues. Clifford replies, I started out as a classical liberal, but once you look look th, on the modern Western world, the shit no longer has the same shine it once had. The other person's like, ah, fascism has an impeccable track record indeed, mate. I completely agree. Clifford replies, love the sarcasm, but I look at what it said out to accomplish and what it could have accomplished, and I seek to replicate that. He's a fucking Nazi. He's a fucking, he's a fucking, he's a fucking, he's a fucking Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a fucking Nazi, he's a fucking Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's a fucking Nazi, he's a fucking Nazi, he's a Nazi, he's, he's a fucking, he's a fucking, he's a fucking, he's a fucking Nazi, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's a straight up fucking Nazi. Yep. And the other thing of course that strikes me about all of this stuff is that like I think they said that half the people so far that they had investigated they were like well we

haven't found anything so they're fine and like yeah it's this it's it's completely like internal investigations as all the shit always is there was go oh we'll look into it and then we can just th th th th th th just just just just just just just just th th th th just th just th just th just say just th just say just say just say just say just th th th th th th just th th just th th th th th th th th th that that that thi thi thi thi that's that's that all this shit always is. There was go, oh we'll look into it and then we can just say that everything's fine. Which is exactly what happened with Barnaby Joyce. That lady whose name I cannot remember, you know, who was a nationals member like accused Barnaby Joyce of sexually harassing her, and she did it confidentially through the national party's appropriate channels, and they then leaked that information to the media so that she had to be in the media and be questioned

about it and everything, and then they said, oh, well we can't find any evidence of anything. So, it's fine. So, you know, you really got to be super confident about the idea that they're going to like dump a third of their young members out. Seemed to celebrate Hitler in a strong way. It's a great language. This is the thing that's so fucking frustrating is that, because of a combination of a Hitler in a strong way. It's a great language. It's great language. This is a thing that's so fucking frustrating is that it gives a combination of Australian defamation law

and the climate that we live in now where any semblance of talking about this sort of stuff the way that it is in a very common sense putting one and one together kind of fashion. You basically have to mince your words. Like because yeah, there's that fear of appearing partisan or there's that fear of defaming someone. So all they have to do is go right up to the line as far as they can fucking go towards it be 99% of a confirmed Nazi and then they still you know news outlets still have to be like oh potential fascist adjacent

person you know like fucking, what was it, like Blair Cottrell going to like a fucking Bavarian beer cafe or whatever, some German tap-house on Hitler's birthday and like forcing them to fucking sing the German national anthem or whatever, whatever the fuck that shit was and then people like, oh can you call him a Manachi? I don't know, blah, yeah you can. But I mean, I feel like that's a, I feel like that's a problem in general. It's a problem that Australia particularly has had in all discourse around climate change, where they're fixated on this thing of like, well, we have to give equal air time to opposing points of view. So we wind up giving as much air time to people to people to people to people to people to people to people their thi thi thi thi that thi that that's that's that's that's thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi, we have to give equal air time to opposing points of view. So we wind up giving as much airtime to people saying, no, no, everything's fine and it doesn't exist and you don't have to do anything about it.

You know, well, we wind up giving as much fucking airtime as people like lunatic Malcolm Roberts as we do to people who actually have something to say about it. And I feel that... Balance! Gotta have that balance! I think that's extended to like the current climate of, you know, it's impossible to deny the rising nationalism and fascism and far-ride politics around the world. Like look at Brazil. Brazil's got themselves a sweet, sweet fascist leader now, arresting the last president and going around and like,

they've got the military going into schools and tearing down pro-democracy posters and, like, you know, and like disrupting classes that are teaching people about what fascism is and shit like that. And then you've got like America where they're currently sending 15,000 troops to the border to, I assume, shoot at refugees. So it's like 3,500 unarmed refugees. And yeah, and when they've been saying, oh yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, like, a torace them like, America. three and a half thousand unarmed refugees. And yeah, and they've been saying, oh yeah, we're gonna like arrest them all.

And I saw a clip of them asking Donald Trump about this, and he was saying, oh, yeah, we're gonna stop releasing them, as in he was saying, we're not, yeah, no longer will we be arresting, like refugees or, or asylum seekers in our country, and then letting them go or releasing them them, their, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, thi, thi, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, thing, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, refugees or asylum seekers in our country and then letting them go or releasing them back to the original country or whatever. It's like, no, we're going to stop releasing them and we'll build whatever kind of structures we have to keep them all in. We'll build tent cities, we'll do whatever. It's like, yeah, that sounds kind of familiar. We'll build massive camps to keep the thousands of, thousands of imprisoned refugees in.

And like, there's just a lot of stuff going on, like all the crazy anti-Semitism in, all all through the Republican Party and it's like where's where's the line? Where can you just start saying it? Where can they just start saying it on the news and apparently the answer is never. Yeah what like yeah what does it take to say oh this is plainly like what would it take to call Steve King from fucking Iowa or wherever it is what What would it take to just call him an outright white nationalist or fascist or whatever you know? Yeah. What did he what did he describe himself as in front of a in front of a group with

neo-Nazi ties recently as David Duke without the baggage? Jesus Christ. Yeah and he's like and he's been fucked for years and years you know? as David Duke without the baggage. Jesus Christ. And he's been fucked for years and years, you know. But the question remains, what does it take? What does it take? Where's the line at which you can just start saying on the news, hey, openly racist, super right-wing, Steve King, you know? Yeah. But, nope, we'll have a bit of balance.

Have a bit of balance instead. I love, love balance in my media. Hey, here's a story for you, from out in Perth.com, that uh... weird ex-soldier uh... minister Andrew hasty liberal MP Andrew hasty says the proposals to remove a gender record from birth certificates is quote tearing at the fabric of the universe which is pretty good as far as like hyperbole goes, you know? I just like love the idea of like someone just having this, this moment of realization where

they're like, you know what, I'm non-binary, and then a fucking black hole opens and swallows the earth and then we're done. It's a rip in the space-time continuum, rips us all to shreds. And all because we broke down the gender binary. Well I really like, as it goes on to explain, obviously it goes out without saying that this dude's a big time called Botherer. The Western Australian MP was speaking on Sky News, shockingly enough, about a proposal to put forward in Tasmania, but a similar recommendation has

also been made by the W.A. Law Reform Commission. Quote, these are just some basic rules of biology that are unchangeable, hasty told Sky News. This law is just an attempt through legislative means to upend basic truths. If you embrace this approach to life, this world view, you end up in intellectual free fall. I mean, the thing with this shit is, and like, you know, obviously a million people have made this argument before, but it's just so worth repeating that, all right, let's, if you say that sex is strictly biological, which I don't think it is and wouldn't even really

matter if it was, right? Like even if there was a one-to-one, you could be like nup, your DNA says you're a boy, your girl, whatever, and then, even then, the brain is complex enough that I'd just be like, no, that doesn't fucking make sense, but also you can't draw this like these hard lines around gender, you know, there isn't a the one the one the one th one th. th., no, that doesn't fucking make sense. But also, you can't draw this, like, these hard lines around gender. You know, there isn't a one-to-one between having X, Y, crime zones and being a specific gender. Intersex people exist. You know, like, there are all these things

that mean you can't have a hard and fast rule for defining gender in biological terms. There is no way you can do it where a catch-all covers all cases. It is not this neat black and white thing that they insisted is. That's just kind of the world that they want to believe exists for some fucking weird reason. Like it just makes so much more sense to dispense with all of this than it does to try and pretend like it's some other way? Well, yeah, just the fighting against it is what's interesting to me. Like, when I go on to read a bit further, what really strikes me about this is he sounds like he's very close to like realizing something. Um, Hastie said it was essential that gender was recorded on everyone's birth certificate so people could know for sure

what gender they were when they were born. Quote, no one ever considers the rights of the child in this. He says, What? The child has a right to know what gender they are when they were born. Biologically that is. Of course people go through dysphoria and the like. I don't deny that, but certainly for our world to operate you have to come down and

accept some basic truths. Gravity, gender, you could rattle off all these laws. I think it's all a bit crazy. You know... What a wonderful two examples to provide. Those immutable laws of the universe, gravity and gender. Like, now look, I'm pretty sure I've said this on the show before, but I'm no scientist. I'm no man of science. I hope you've said that on the show before. We should periodically, I think maybe once per episode we should just all be like, hey, we don't know, shit. But my loose, loose, goosey under, the same. I two-uice, th. Now, I. Now, I. th. Now, I. th. Now, th. Now, th. th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, the two, the the the the the the the the the two, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now, now, now, now, now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. the th. the the the the th. the the the th. th. th. should just all be like, hey, we don't know shit. But my loose understanding of science is that like people just keep trying to learn more the whole time, you know,

they don't get to a point with the thing and they go, uh, dust their hands together and say get to a point with the thing and they go, ah, and dust their hands together and say, Scients is done and we have learned everything there is to know. Well, let's take the afternoon. The apple fell from the tree, we can close the book on gravity. No one needs to know anything else about gravity. You know, my, yeah, my understanding of it is that at any given time, anything that we understand is just the, what we think is the closest thing to the truth, and something might come along and supplant that at some point.

And it certainly seems as though that is a thing that has happened with gender, over the last however long, you know. And what kills me about it, as he says here, if you embrace this world view, you, you, you, you, you, you, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin' is thin' is just thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin,. And what kills me about it, whereas he says here, if you embrace this world view, you end up in intellectual free fall. And it sounds like he's dangerously close to describing what happens to his worldview, if he accepts some of this stuff. If you accept that perhaps some of these things aren't, you know, the completely immutable laws that

were handed down to you in your Bible or that were told to you by your fucking pastor at Hillsong or whatever. Like, yeah, I found myself thinking when I was reading this, so I was just like, yeah, it's almost like, um, things are just what we say they are, and sometimes that changes over time. I wonder if it would blow his mind to learn that like, that like the money, you know how much money is worth? That's, it's just what, worth what we say it's worth.

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Scottho'st. Scottham City. This fucking guy did a, uh, very boomer-style to-tweet-tweet with bracket one of two, you know, that sort of shit where he's like, ah, they're try to take gender off of driver's licenses. Gender is not listed on your driver's license. It's not listed on your driver's license in Queensland. It's not listed on your driver's license in New South Wales. I don't believe it's on there for Victoria. If you're anywhere near your wallet you could perhaps check. I'm not, unfortunately. If it's listed on there.

But it's just, yeah, I'm pretty sure for the majority of states, it's, if not all of them, it's not on there because it's fucking irrelevant. And it seems like this is a common pattern for this type of thing. Like, particularly, you know, safe schools was a good example of this. Where as soon as this comes up in the news, people immediately start talking about all of this stuff that they are trying to do to you and they're trying to change society and shit. People always come out and go, it's been like that for 30 years. Like about whatever this thing is that you're talking about.

It's like, we started doing that like decades ago. There was a huge thing about the Queensland government supposedly taking gender off driver's licenses last year, and everyone's like, it has been that way for a very long time. What the fuck are thia thia thiiiiiii-a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's like, that. It's like, that. It's like, that that that that that. It's like like, that that. It's like, that. It's like, that. It's like, that. It's like, has been that way for a very long time. What the fuck are you talking about? It is fucking insane. But it's such a reactionary position that for some reason makes people so mad. And I just, I can't understand that position from anything other than a,

it's just a weird fear of change, right? I just don't understand it. Well, but people fucking hate it. Well, there's also, yeah, I mean, I, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, it's th. It's th. It's just, it's just, it's, it's just, it's thi, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it. Well, but people fucking hate it. Well, there's also, yeah, I mean, obviously partly, it's just change. And some of the time, the change is purely just about, like, well, that's just information we don't require anymore. You know? Like, if they look at your license, they need to know shit like if this is your name and if this is your address and if we can like find out that you are the person that you say you are, kind of thing.

Yeah, if you're roughly this height, which I mean, I just told them what my height was for ages and I was wildly wrong, it turned out. It took like three times of getting it renewed before the woman, the there's no way of that toll, go stand next to the thing. I was off by like 10 centimeters. Well, as it says here, so Tasmanian Parliament is about to consider a bill that would remove discriminations people who are transgender and one of the what's a terriblely written sentence,

against people who are transgender, how about that? One of the many changes put forward is no longer recording gender on birth certificates. The Tasmanian Parliament will also consider a proposal that will allow people who are transgender to change their gender on their identity documents without having to undergo hormonal treatment or gender reassignment surgery. Good. Fuck yeah. LGBTI writes, activist Rodney Crum says gender information is no longer necessary and notes that other information has been removed from birth certificates including racial information and parents occupation. It's like of course, fine. No one no one needs that shit like what would you even need to have that on your birth certificate for? Western Australia is currently considering making similar moves. A review by the W.A. Law Reform Commission found that there was no need for gender to be recorded on birth certificates because the statistical information used by the government was recorded by hospitals.

There you go. Hmm. Not even needed for the thing they were using it for. Yeah. But now instead we've just got to thing they were using it for. Yeah. But now instead we've just gotta, just gotta take a super reactionary position. It fucking sucks. I'd just like to do a quick shout out to our trans friends of the show, who are 10,000 times braver than the troops just for existing. It's very true.

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Let's stop here. Well, there's never going to be that many of anything because we've never counted that high before. We've only ever counted up to 10 million. I reckon they'd only ever counted up to 5 million. You're like, you know what, just in case, let's double it, stop there. Double it, that's way, way more. That's way over 5 million. The maximum use case. It was the same as when they were doing the year before the bloody Y2K bug. They were like, there is absolutely no way we will ever need to count numbers more than 30 years in the future. Let's stick to two digits. This won't cause us any problems. That's the kind of pessimism I like. The world will be gone by probably 1987. Why even consider that we might have to tick back over to zero or one?

Oh my God, what was my wife saying that she heard? Some old neighbors saying the other day about something that were like, well, even if it is, even if climate change is happening, we won't be here for it. I was like, no! No, no, you're old motherfuckers. That's what you're terrified that they believe. And it turns out out they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tho! tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho- tho, tho, tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- th. th. th. th. th. tho- tho- tho- tho- tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told told told told told told told told to told told told told told to to told told to to to thooooo. thoo. fear. That's what you're terrified that they believe. And it turns out they do. And they also enjoy playing with their granddaughter when she comes around. So, yeah, that's got to be hard to hold on your head at both times.

Yeah, no, you just don't do the two or once. Well folks, you'd be glad to know that I feel like this is... Nothing you've started that way has ever been true, but... Well, go on. Some people will be glad to know that I think people were worried that with Lucy moving to Hawaii that we would just have no Lucy for that time. People were very, very concerned. Folks, you don't have to be concerned. She was gonna be on this recording right at the three minute.

She just forgot to pack the cord that plugs her microphone into her computer. So she's Amazon overniting a cord to herself because you can do that in America. Giving a sweet, hard-earned cash to Jeff Bozo's. so that he can build to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the human to be concerned the human to be concerned their to be concerned their to be concerned their their their their to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned to be concerned the to be concerned the the the the the the the the Giving her sweet hard-earned cash to Jeff Bozo's. So that he can build another human matrix battery. And... Howe's various homes are powered. So she will be back with this very shortly. We promise.

We promise. We promise. But look, we got some questions. We got some questions in the old mailback. Questions are the old mailback? If you would like that? Uh, let me see. Wow, what a beautiful song? Oh, friend of the show, well this is an appropriate question, a friend of the show, average

gamer asks, now that Lucy is too busy hanging ten in Hawaii, who will you substitute for her to condone your terrible takes? She will never be able to leave the podcast. If we became another podcast with three men on it, I think we would all just lie down on the floor in shame and then never touch a microphone again. Yeah. And that's not to say that she's a token woman. It's just to say that the world does not need any more of those. There are some great ones. Let's just not add to that list. Doesn't need to be added to. No, not at all. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Not at it that. Not at it all. No. Not at all. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Not that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th. Not, not th th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. ones. Let's just not add to that list. Doesn't need to be added to. No, not at all. Let's see. Let's see. Oh, oh, a friend of the show. Eric Stacy asks, what is the best

Australian movie of all time. Ooh. Oh. Oh. You know what? I'm going to go. I know this is a bit of a cheat answer. But it is an even tie between the film Razorback and the film Fury Road. Wow. Hmm.

Yeah, well, Razorback's pretty, pretty great, isn't it? Is Fury Road even an Australian production? Production? I'm not sure I was shot in Australia, wasn't it? You're... Show up Australia, Australian director, you know? Australian American. Yeah, all right, that's good enough for me. Hmm. Just perusing some, uh, chopper, chopper's good. Is it the best? I didn't say it was best, just said it was good. I tell you what I watched, uh, rewatched recently and it was very, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was very, and it was very, and it was very, and it was very, and it was very, and it was very, and it was very, and it was very, it was very, and it was very, it was very, it was very, it was very, is thing it was very, it was very, and it was very, is thing, is thing, is thing, is thi, is thi, is didn't say it was the best, just said it was good.

I tell you what I watched, re-washed recently and it was very, very good. Oh, actually it was mostly filmed in Namibia. Oh. Uh, with some parts in New South Wales. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. I don't know. What I think is the best? Two hands. It's very good. Did calm? It's very good. I don't know. I'm not super into like the Oscar bait type stuff. Like Shine. Remember Shine.

Old Geoffrey Rush. I think most of our most celebrated movies are very depressing dramas, generally. Yeah. The Barbadook was a good one. It's not our best. We're just listing Australian films at this point. I mean, I stick by Razorback is fucking amazing. Fury Road is an unbelievably good movie that is maybe one of the most re-watchable movies ever made to my mind. Just it takes

no time to get into it and every scene is just a delight. Oh the proposition's good. I'm gonna say strictly ballroom. The best Australian movie of all time. I cannot tell if you're taking the best. Very good. When was the last time you watched it? Uh, not for a long time. Because I threw it on recently. I was like, you know what?

I should give that a go. And it's really good. It's very, very good. And it's super over the top the whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole the whole whole the whole whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the the whole. I th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I t, I too. I too. I too. I too too too too too too th. I th. I the. I the. I go. And it's really good. It's very, very good and it's super over the top the whole way through. I almost feel like it was like, um, because, you know, like, Bazleroman's whole thing is just being extremely over the top with everything and extravagance and layering everything on. I almost feel like I will draw a parallel between Bazlererman and Peter Jackson and say that I think they are both people who are victims of getting what they wanted.

They're both people who are victims of getting the resources that they always dreamed of. Because I put it to you that Peter Jackson's movies become less interesting the more money he has to work with. I think that's absolutely true. I think that he did obviously, you know, like cheesy movies and stuff, but like brain dead or dead alive depending on where you're at. And like meet the feebles and stuff

were obviously very inventive resourceful things and heavenly creatures was amazing. Oh sorry to interrupt you but I did not know this. Oh wait no that's why never mind so I just got very confused that a 1995 movie called Fortress is apparently an Australian movie but that's not to be confused with the movie Fortress from... what's the one with Christopher Lambert? Yeah no that's that's Fortress. What year is that? It's got to be the same sort of time, 90s, 90s, I think it's 92. Anyway I'm sorry I continue. I was just, I was just, I had a very strange... I was just, I was just, I was just, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that, that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, th,'s got to be the same sort of time, 90s, 90s, something. I think it's 92. Anyway, I'm sorry, continue.

I was just, I had a very strange moment of being like nothing about that movie. No, I have watched the Australian fortress. What? No! Oh my God! So the 1992 one with Christopher Lambert was filmed in Queensland, Was it? Yeah, it was shot at Warner Brothers Movie Studios in Queensland, Australia. How's that? Oh, what a turnout. It's also set last year. Directed by Stuart Gordon.

I believe we have brought this up, this movie up, at least casually, in maybe three or four episodes. Fortress. Well, I did, I did have to tell somebody just the other day when they were talking about, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, they were they were they, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, they were they were, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were thi they were they were they were they were they were thi, they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, at least casually, in maybe three or four episodes. Not Fortress? Well, I did have to tell somebody just the other day when they were talking about, they were saying, ah, people should be fitted with explosives that go off in your stomach, like in that movie Fortress, and I had to chime in and say, uh, those are called intestinators. A perfect man. Which is what they were called in the movie. But yeah, Stuart Gordon directed that. He also directed a reanimator and from beyond all the best like H.P. Lovecraft type movies. Um, and I found out recently that him and, uh, Brian Us Usner or whatever his name is the dude

who like wrote all those other movies with him they wrote honey I shrunk the kids yeah I just saw that that is bizarre which is very weird to me anyway there's no good Australian movies so yeah moving on I would recommend any international listeners and I guess any Australian ones that haven't seen it. Just watch Razorback and international listeners in particular, keep in mind that the two over-the-top Bogan villain characters are perfectly real portraits of very, very real people in Australia that I have met thousands of. They may seem like absurd cartoons of what Australian people are like, but they are maybe one

of the most accurate filmic portrayals of the Platonic ideal of an Australian that you will ever see. Truly disgusting. Yes, absolutely horrible. Wretched creatures, and that's us. Anyway, the real answer is the 1970 version of Ned Kelly, starring Mick Jagger as Ned Kelly. Oh, I think the real answer is the 1906 version of Ned Kelly, which is the world's first ever feature film.

Well, feature length, obviously, you know, but you get the idea. Anyway, it turns out there's movies, there's movies you can watch with Australians them, I suppose. Um, couple. Let's see. Else we got here. Um, Friend of the show, Amy. Sorry. Um, friend of the show, Amy, lover of the show, Amy, sorry.

Um, asks, do Australians talk about wanking like Americans talk about guns? Yeah, I think so. What, as in just too much? I feel like most conversations I have... With friends, wanking will come up at least once. If it's not wanking, it's shitting. Yeah, it's wanking or shitting. Australians love talking about both of those things.

Any family dinner for me, any like time that we're all together for like a Christmas dinner or something like that, at some point the conversation will turn to shitting and everybody is delighted except for my father. Oh man, my dad is a very taciturn man, wouldn't talk about anything like that. He was so confronted when we moved to Queensland just because people up here are very open about just about everything. And that is not the way my father is. Yeah, same for my dad. He doesn't need to talk about his poops than anybody thany any th an anybody thip th an any thip thip tho to tho to tho to to tho to tho to to to tho to to tho to to to to to to to to to to to too too too too to me too to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be to be. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. theat theat theat toeat theat toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. for my dad. He doesn't need to talk about his

poops than anybody, so he doesn't. You know? Me however, I'll let you know. Let you know what's going on down there. You've definitely demonstrated that in the first. Folks, I've been on the protein shakes. That does all kinds of things to you. Are you getting cut again? Are you getting cut again? Just, just lifting some weights. And you're getting back into it, mate. Why not? Gotta stay healthy. Gotta stay ripped.

I've never been ripped. You have absolutely been ripped. Don't fucking act like you've not been ripped. I've just been very thin. I think there's a difference. No, I'm not gonna blow smoke up your ass. But you have been jacked. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've th, I've th, I've th. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi, I've thi, I've thi' thi' thi' thi' thi, thi, thi' thin' th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and you're getting th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th. And you're getting th. And th. And th. And, and th. And, and th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi' thi' thi' thi' thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to blow smoke up your ass, but you have been jacked before. I've seen the fucking photos. When you were like hardcore going to the gym, like even a year ago, you were fucking

toned as hell. Yeah, those big ass biceps, don't come at me like you were never jacked. Folks, you heard it here first. I mean, they've seen it first. I mean they've seen it first. Anyone that's followed you on Twitter for more than a year has seen that body. Folks, you're here with the big guns talking about the big guns. Monkey and the big fella. Signing off. It's been lovely. It's been lovely, Ben. Hey, you know what? Let's never get the other two back on. This is quite nice actually. A podcast for three guys? We don't need any more than a podcast with two guys. That's fine. Totally fine.

Folks, thanks hanging around. If you would like to get extra bonus episodes, but not one called Moby Dickhead in which a terrible dark secret is revealed. The moment after we finished recording that episode I was like, I don't know if I really should have to told that story. And I still don't know about it, but here we are. Yeah, well, you know, so you can, you can get a peek into a dark corner of Ben's adolescence for only $5 a month. Or you could just sign up for one month and listen to that and get out of there. You know, whatever, we don't judge as long as you don't judge us for the things we say.

You could just find someone that's already a subscriber and then kick the shit out of them the exchange for that's not really how it works. You can kick the shit out of them in exchange, not in exchange for, that's not really how it works. You can kick the shit out of them and force them to give you the RSS link for the subscriber podcast feed. So whichever's easier for you, subscription or violence, go down that path. It seems like it'd be easier to just sign up. Well, you would say that, wouldn't you? But I'm open-minded. I'm not money-driven. We need a crime pass before we say goodbye. You can deck a white nationalist.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I reckon that's right. You can... Oh, no, you know what? I'm giving you a crime pass to call anyone a Nazi or a white nationalist or a white supremacist. I don't know if that counts as a crime, because defamation law is someone suing you, it's not a government convicting

you of a crime, right? I'm not really sure, but I'm not a legal expert, but if anyone, if anyone launches a defamation case against you, just show them the crime pass and say, oh, actually, you can suck my big dick, you fucking wig wearing motherfucker. I don't know if judges wear wigs. I've never been in a courtroom. You're Nazi defending fuck, you can say. Yeah, and then they'll be like, oh shit, I really want to get this guy for contempt of court, but that's one of the subclause in the crime pass.

Shit. So yeah, that'll help. So, especially if you work in the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, the, tha, tha, tha, tha, to to thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. too, too. too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too ta, thu. thu. ta, that'll help. So especially if you work in the media, if you're a Fairfax, or even a yuck, news corp journalist, or an independent journalist, call whomever you like a Nazi, because as we all know, we just call anyone we don't like a Nazi. That's true. That's what I was leftists to do. You can also, if the mood takes you, go out and branch stack a national party meeting with leftists. Yeah, for the good things. Yeah. All right folks, we're gonna leave you there. Thank you for your time. Kisses to you. We'll see you next week. Have a good one. Just have like a really

fucking a rip a week this week even if your work's getting you down try to do some stuff that fucking kicks us instead of going home and being fucking miserable on Monday night if you work a 9 to 5 job have your mates around make up a big dinner and drink a shit ton of wine. Do that that sounds like a nice time. You heard the man. Unless you don't like wine, you can have something else. Yeah, if you don't drink wine, something similar, you get the idea.

Do something convivial. Yeah. Enjoy. Bonapate. teet. Yeah. Fuck me dead. Bye. you know the