Boonta Vista - GUEST PODCAST: Feature Presentation 1 - Mouth Full of BORLFF

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

As a little bonus treat, it's an episode of a different podcast entirely! This is an episode of friend of the show Phoebe Paradise's podcast Don't Worry, It's Not Just You, talking about the Brisbane Only Rotoscoped Lightning Film Festival. The first episode of this series is a chat with Ben from the podcast Boonta Vista, as well as friend of the show the other Ben, Ben Jungles. Mostly it's a chat about the dumb movies we love and the joy of doing something dumb with friends. Check it out and, furthermore, check out Phoebe's podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/dont-worry-its-not-just-you/id1592573549

Hey, it's me, Ben from the podcast, Buntavista. I am recording this in my hotel room in beautiful Emerald, Queensland, where I am having a surprise three-day holiday because I fucked up my car driving in the mud. What you're about to hear is not an episode of Buntavista. I'm doing, I guess, what those in the social media industry would call a cross-post. It's an episode of the podcast. Don't worry, it's not just you from our dear friend Phoebe Paradise, who you might recognize from the episode, Queensland, Red's brain. The reason I'm cross-posting this is shameless self-promotion and also because it's really good.

So this episode was done with Phoebe, a local Brisbane artist named Sam McKenzie, myself, and of course my best friend and business partner, the other Ben Jungles, who you might know from me frequently mentioning him on the podcast as a, just, I don't know, he comes spend a lot of time with him. We did this episode as part of a series that don't worry it's not just you is going to do where they talk to a series of artists who are doing an art show as feature presentation that is connected to the film festival that all of us all of the four of us are doing, called the Brisbane Only Rotoscope Lightning Film Festival or Balf. This is the first episode of it,

and we just sort of go through, talk about all the movies, talk about Rotoscope lightning, talk about the Australian Day Bill as a concept. I was a little bit sourced while we were recording which I think adds an air of madcap and a.m. to it, but it's really good. So yeah, I thought I would chuck this on here as well so that you can listen to it. Balf. Balf. For tickets to Balfe, even as not a promotional exercise, it's also a good episode. I've taken up enough new time. Enjoy this. I hope you're doing well. Bye. And now our feature presentation. All right. Hello and welcome to episode one of our very special feature presentation mini

series. My name is Phoebe Paradise and I'm joined by my friend and co-host Sam McKenzie. Hi Sam. Hi, Phoebe. Hi, Phoebe. I'm good. I'm good. I'm so excited to talk to talk to talk today. I'm to talk to today. I'm so excited. I'm so excited to talk to to. I. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the future. I. I. I. I the future. I the fea. I fea. I fea. Hi Phoebe. I'm good. I'm so excited to talk today about movies, about feature presentation, about the art of cinema and daybills. I'm really excited to jump in. So we had our first exhibition last year and it was such a hoot that we've come back swinging and this time we're teaming up with the inimitable two-bit movie club and Netherworld for their first ever feature film festival. Both. That's right, Brisbane's only, Rotoscope lightning film festival. It's BORF. The film festival so nice. It's fun to say film festival, so nice. It's fun to say it twice.

Yeah, exactly. Both. They say lightning only strikes one. Yeah, sure. They do say that, definitely. So today, Sam and I are joined by the genius minds behind this festival, Ben McLea and Ben Nichols. Hello, Ben. Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for doing this today. It's today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. th. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. th. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. the the th. the th. th. the, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, the the the the the th. Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly. the th. this festival, Ben McLea and Ben Nichols. Hello, Ben. Hello. Hello.

Hello. Thank you so much for doing this today. How are you guys going? Fantastic. Yeah, I'm great. You're great. Yes. I can tell from just looking at you that you are thriving at the moment. I'm rugged up. I'm warm. I'm warmed. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. I'm warm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. famously don't own pants, so. I don't. No, I do have a pair of track pants in the other room, actually,

but I wouldn't wear them around company. That's just, that's, that's, no, that would be disgusted. Only in the beautiful city of Brisbane, Australia, can in winter you have two guys sitting in a room, and the other wearing tiny shorts. It could be dardier. You could see us any month of the year and we'd be dressed pretty much exactly the same. We've got our looks sorted out and they're sort of climate agnostic. I mean, you do have a, you are rocking a flanny.

Yeah, that's true. Famously keeping yourself, your arms warm at least. This is cold weather gear as far as I'm concerned. I could go down to Antarctica at this point and I'll be like all right I'm prepped I'm ready. It's fresh. It's crisp. It's crisp. Frizbitt it drops below 30 degrees everyone's like like well might as well be Antarctic ready at all times like you know. Could you please start off by telling us a little bit about Bulliff 2 the B2 situation? How are we going to differentiate the Ben? Well, I'll be Benjamin, I'll be Benjamin and he can be Ben. Yeah, I mean we are both Benjamin's on paper but you prefer Benjamin I think more than I do. And it's a great way to tell us a part. Yeah, no beliefs. What about Benji? A few visual cues you can use as well. So a 2-bit movie club happened because my dear friend and now business partner, Benjamin,

opened a venue in Fortitude Valley called Netherworld Bar Arcade and Diner and I said to him, in the weeks leading up to its opening, hey, can I put on some movies on a day of the week? And Ben said, sure. And then it turned out some people liked watching some of those. And then we thought, hey, we could probably get goofy with this. And so we started putting on dumber and dumber events. Just pushing your luck, like, every way.

Yeah, well we went from just being like, hey, here's a bunch of like nostalgia movies from you know the 90s and stuff that people want to see and then being like, what if we did a clip show entirely of dumb stuff from wrestling from the 80s and we're like, oh, people want to see that as well. And then we're like, all right, what if we put on a film festival where where we don't have the skills skills the skills the skills the skills the skills the skills the skills to to to to to to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on to put on a to put on a to put on a to put on a to put on a film festival where we don't have the skills, the connections, or the money to put on a proper film festival in the sense of like premiering movies or getting movies that are just coming out. So we're like all right we'll put on a retrospective film festival and then of course you have to pick something to theme that around. There has to be a theme.

Well we chose our great mutual love which is very specifically rotoscope lightning. Yeah and also I think I'm trying to remember whether we had Balf first and then try to come up with something that it could stand for. Really? You came up with the acronym first and then reverse engineer the content after. I think the only reason we did this because during that conversation we just kept saying bolf to each other like fuck that's fun to say you've reverse engineered bolf because as I said it's fun to say I mean it really does barely roll off the tongue so yeah it's like a pre vomit sound someone's got like the hot spits and they're

yeah and we thought it would be very funny to be holding a microphone in your hand and to be in front of 200 people and to 11 times in a two-week period say, welcome to BOLF. And the natural thing to do with the funny bit is to see it through to its furthest conclusions. Yeah, which is the punch line. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, tho, it's, thi, it's thi, tho, it's th-s, it's th-in, it's th, it's th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thus, th. It's th. It's, th. It's, th-tom, th-tom, th-tom, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi-a-augh, that-a, thin, thin, thin, the-a-a-augh, thin, thin, thin, the-a, thi, that's, which is putting on a film festival. That's the punchline. It's like, you know, when you, a joke is, you can, you know, it reaches its logical point and then you go further, further, until it gets less funny and then it will gradually become funny again.

Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping we get to say it. Oh, there's a... I think we've talked about this. This is something that we're hoping to implement in some way throughout the festival. Yeah. There will be an audience participation element. Which I personally hate audience interaction more than life itself.

But I hate being in a Marvel movie where audience participation happens outside of that and totally fine. We don't want that. But we do want some sort of chance situation going on ideally. I like that the, so we've been running some ads on 4 triple Z because Neath the world loves supporting the lovely radio station, 4 triple Z. Great radio station. One of the best, where the opening of the ad is a joke about how hard it is to prpip, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ad is a joke about how hard it is to pronounce which is not something we didn't write anything and give them anything that's just what they decided to run with but just so nice it's so good they basically made the ad we would have done anyway yeah it's great I listened to it I was like oh shit did I write that so both is just so evocative that it just pulls out of people what you want yeah the reaction we found the reaction we found the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the perfect sound. Yeah. To bewil the people, but it's also like extremely precise as to what it conveys.

Yeah. Honestly, the perfect kind of branding makes something so obnoxious and obtuse that people just inevitably can't not stop thinking about it. You got to think about balls. And can only happen once. Yeah. Unless lightning strikes twice. Or you remove the word lightning. We'll talk about this in the late day. We're getting ahead of ourselves. There are a lot of funny noises out there. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Next year, a blap. Bluff. So tell me. If you came up with the concept first.

And the name first, we're working backwards, I'm assuming given these steps, the movies were like the very last decision made in the curation process. Yes, it's kind of. Narrowing them down, I think was the hardest part. Because I have, well, we both have very strong opinions about what we like. And we have like 90% overlap in the movies that we love. But also I think it really helps, if you're doing something that's as self-indulgent as a retrospective film festival around a specific theme of just dumb trash movies that you love.

It really helps to have two people so that if what a view is like oh we're definitely doing these ones and having just someone else to be there like literally not a single person would buy a ticket to that movie. Which so there was a little bit of back and forth on that but not a lot it was just really hard. to the ones we weren't going to do. And I think it's mostly good to do with like trying to strike a balance between stuff that everyone really has seen a million times. Yeah. I had a few people sort of come at me on Twitter of being like you've not done any of the back to the future. Yeah, where is back to the future? You can seen back to the future so many times. You don't need to see that at a cinema with a bunch of weirdos. Okay, so the criteria is beginning to show itself a little bit here. So the idea would be to select movies

that have been necessarily seen as much of a cinematic releases say you're back to the futures and you. Yeah, we're big. Yeah, we're big. Yeah, I'm trying to think. What are the most. What. What. What??. What?. What? the most. What? the most. What? the most. What? the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most. the most. the most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most. I. I. I. I the most. I the most. I the most. I. I. I. I the most. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the rying to think, I'm like, what are the most well-known rotoscope movie? Well, I mean, like you could say, pick, the Empire Strikes Back as a rotoscope lightning movie, because there's a shit ton of it in there. They attack the clones has a ton of it there. But like, we want to strike a balance between the trash that we love. Stuff you wouldn't have seen at a thinimaima. Yeah, but I think our biggest thing we were consciously trying to avoid was if, say, and no shade to event cinemas, but if event cinemas was going to do an 80s retrospective, I don't want it to have the exact same lineup as our film first of all. Which could easily happen because that rotoscope lightning was in like every 80s movie.

Just cool as hell. So you know we chose like the big ones that we love, like Big Trouble in Little China, which is a perfect movie, which we, this will be the fourth 2bit movie club, big trouble and little China screening at this point. Really? It'll be the second one we've done at the cinema, but it's the one we have done the most because I love that movie so much. That's the penultimate two-bit movie club movie. Yeah, it's perfect in every way in that it's a perfectly, it's a very competently made movie. It's a very smart movie, it's very funny.

John Carpenter is best. The hero is an idiot. And the conceptually, it's insane. It's the best of like a B-movie vibe made by a consummate professional. A schlocky, like, blockbuster. And it's a movie that is of like, it's perfectly elegant beast in that like, it is an insane idea presented to you

with the minimum amount of steps possible. Like, all of the characters of the movie, see a bunch of weird shit happen in the first five minutes and go, all right, well we're in the movie now. Dream logic, it's fantastic. Yeah, yeah. Movies get too bogged down trying to explain things, say if this was Marvel movies or something, sometimes are a bit ashamed of their source material instead of just committing to it. So it becomes a bit of a joke and they have to kind to kind to kind to kind to kind to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their source material instead of just committing to it. So it becomes a bit of a joke and they have to kind of like go out of their way to like, oh that's a dumb name for something I know, I'm aware. Yeah, there's 45 minutes of trying to prove that the movie is smarter than what the movie is about. You have your main character. Just get in, just do it for 90 minutes. Well, get out of a lizard. Start. their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Yeah. their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It. It's. It's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I........................................................................................................... the the time like having the characters trying to convince other characters that this thing exists.

I fucking hate that shit so much. Absolutely bullshit. It's like no no no we need you to just like accept that this is happening and let the movie happen. Yeah, if they believe it, the audience can believe it. And also is that the one with the Pork Chop Express? Yeah, absolutely it is. It's such a delightful combination of words. Kurt Russell jamming an enormous sandwich into his mouth in the middle of the opening monologue of the movie for no reason whatsoever, other than John Garba to be like, hey, this will be funny. And he's right.

That's right. That once we had the major theme there, we had to get the sub themes in. That's important. Okay. Yes. It's important to categorize everything. There's tendrils here going on. Which is our trying to theme double features that made sense to us as well. Where like we wanted to demonstrate that rotoscope lightning has a long history because the first movie we've got is from the 1950s and the most recent film we've got is from the late 90s. Yeah so we were like oh we need some classic sci-fi in there we both have a deep love for Forbidden Planet so that one was kind of easy because that movie is just visually spectacular a young Leslie Nielsen playing a role entirely straight which is so weird.

Unrecognizable. Does he have white hair in this? No he doesn't! He is he's young and strapping, and strong-looking. He's so good at playing a straight man in comedy that watching him play a role straight is absolutely baffling. You're waiting for the pin to try. Yeah, because you've been conditioned. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to say something silly soon. Never does. It says a lot of wildly sexist things in there. I think sexism is silly. It is silly. I'm willing to put that on record. Thank you for being so brave and vulnerable on this podcast. I really appreciate it.

But then we have to pick another classic science fiction movie to go with it as well. And I am a massive show-er-era Godzilla fan. And luckily every single one of the first 15 or so Godzilla movies has a ton of rotoscope lighting in there so I just pick the one that to me is the goofiest and coolest at the same time. It's one of the most definitive as well I think in terms of what is iconic about like that era of Godzilla movies. Yeah. You got Godzilla, you got King Giedra and Godzilla teams up with one of his cronies. Yeah always a kit and then you got the aliens or the exilions. Yeah.

Beautiful, just iconic. Like character design. It's got everything. It's got weird space stuff. Again, they just commit to it. They don't try and explain it too much. It's just like, here's what's happening. We're going to a moon of moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon moon to a moon moon to a moon to to to to to to the moon to to the moon to to to the moon to the moon to to a moon of Jupiter, which is planet X or whatever. And for some reason King Geta is here just wrecking shit, causing mischief.

Yeah, they're really surprised that he's there. Which I guess King Guter can travel through space, so I guess that makes sense. But like they rock. Wow, I can't wait to see this movie, oh it's so good. But then, yeah, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they. they. they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're. they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. they. th. the. the. the. theat. the. theat. the. the. the. they're really really really really really they're really really they're like, they're like, they're like,, you know. They just roll with it. They just roll with it. They're like, we need to borrow Godzilla off you to fight this one. So, funny as good see ever movie. Godzilla, please. Is can we borrow your Godzilla? We will give you the cure for cancer if you give us Godzilla.

It's so good. It works. Because it's just like, you buy Giro. And lots of like a weird funky jazz soundtrack which is the whole mark all those as well like it's so good. So you got sci-fi is like a subcategory. Were there any others? That's on the first weekend. Yeah also with Mullets. What do we call that one? the mullets and martial arts? Yeah good that. Yeah I think I came up with that one. Yeah, good one. Oh, thank you.

So Big Trouble in Little China, obviously is the, obviously a shoe in, because the beautiful Maladon, Kurt Russell there, extremely strange themes. And then the beautiful, absolutely bonkers filmed the last dragon, which is like a weird combination of a late black exploitation movie and a martial arts movie where this is the case of a few of the movies in the light up there is about 30 seconds of no I'm gonna say less there's about 15 seconds

of rotoscope lightning to get it and it happens to the very final scene of the movie but I was like no that's enough that meets our criteria this is a common theme for for films, like obviously, rotoscope lightning can't be like the greatest. We did try to find 10 movies that were non-stop rotoscope lightning, but it turns out they don't exist. It's not much out there. They can't afford that. So yeah, the last dragon, it's only in the final scene.

And it looks great. It's done very well but it's very short live. like some tiny crackles on the cube early in the movie and then the final scene some really really great rotoscope light both Adams family movies only have it in the finale yeah the June only has it when the worms are doing worm sign so where the worms is a tenuous link it's so tenuous but also we've been planning on screening June since the very very start of the novel coronavirus COVID pandemic June is the other opening weekend start of the novel coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic. June is the other opening weekend thing. This is our big launch party. That's the launch night.

Is June, the David Leach. Top hats and tail please. So yes. Well, I said cocktail dress in the event description. So top hat might be a little. What about, what are the suit, still suits? Or your best worm outfit will also get a prize. Yes.

This is not something that we realized, but when we had first decided to do June as a movie, which was at the very start of 2020. I'm pretty sure it was pre-the movie June coming out. It was. We were delightfully surprised by the coincidence. But we were trying to think of like the things things things add to an event to do June Fest, a celebration of 1984's June, and like well we sorted out having someone to do a musical tribute to the score, we were

going to get a talk done by someone who had written a book about that movie and your Ben's insistence that we have worm dance which is not specific idea of having worm dance as part of the event. This is really embarrassing that you bring in so right now because I thought we were still doing this I thought that was unspoken. We have not lined up our worm dances unfortunately. I'm not coming in Top Hatten Tales. I'm coming as worm dance. All right if you can do the worm dance that will be fine. It goes forward left a little bit of a slide I unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately a the the the the the the the the worm the worm th the worm th. I th. I to to to to to to to to. I to. I to. I to. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm to. I'm not. I'm. I'm not. I'm not coming. I'm to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. you can do the worm dance, that will be fine. It goes forward, left, a little bit of a slide around the, oh yeah. I really hope that you managed to accidentally hoodwink and trick some people who think, they're like, oh great, the Denny Villeneuve

June is screening, and I missed the initial run. Little on-corpore screening, like six months later. Yeah, and then they show up and there's just worm dance and tox what doesn't tell you. Please at the start of the screening you do big speech and then we say and a few minutes silence while I sit there in silence doing the worm dance. Just the sound of shuffling feet in a completely silent room. Like maybe flopping on the floor. If you're listening to this and you think you could contribute worm dance to the opening night. There is room for three more people in the worm dance suit. Yeah.

I would love to know so much what you're picturing but I also am just so happy to leave a tea. So potential worm dances, hop on socials, DM. Yeah, please do. Don't worry, it's not just you. This is the raw shark test of the... As many people in this room, as there is space in the worm dam suit. Sorry, I'm busy that day. I take June pretty seriously. I don't know about you, lot.

I take June so fuckingthat one, so that's when I'm really... Are you serious? It's actually pretty, pretty sick. Yeah, everything I've seen about it looks like a nightmarish fever dream. And I've been waiting for the opportunity to see it on a big screen and would you believe it where I'm dancing. The opportunity has presented it. I think if you've seen the new June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June June the new the new the new the I think if you've seen the new June and you liked it, it's actually a really beautiful counter point to watch. It's a good complimentary

movie to do. It's a weirdly, it's restrained in the sense that like it's not a good David Lynch movie I think is a way to describe it. But if you gave David Lynch the opportunity to make Star Wars and and then you had someone on staff who's job it was to to to to to to the the the the the the to the the the the the the to the the the to the the the the the the to the the the to the the to the to the the the the the the the the to to their kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th. th. tho. the the the the the the. But if you gave David Lynch the opportunity to make Star Wars, and then you had someone on staff whose job it was to slap David Lynch's hand if he made Star Wars too weird. That was on the cards for a bit there. Yeah, well, yeah, it was. Which is, imagine. Return of the Jedi directed by David Lynch. Sounds like something you dreamed. Which is kind of what you get with June though.

Like it's, he had a very strong influence on its production design, which is outstanding. Like you cannot fault it. It's a really unique universe that they present that kind of matches the tone of the books really well. And like... And they added sting to it. And then they added stig. The most important part. The like the Denev Villeneu thing looks like it draws some cues from the David Lynch one but they all, like Deni Villano had never seen it and refused to watch it. It looms large, right? I think they just they both drew on the same cues from the text and then like, yeah, I don't know. They created something very strange and unique and like the pacing of it is actively bad and it feels weird and disconcerting, but it's a...

Just ignore that part. Come along to the premiere of screening. Yeah, definitely still worth. I think the editing and pacing is actually great, right? How good we think a movie is is completely irrelevant to the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the reasoning the the the the the thi thi thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-i-i-i-i-y thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's good, right? It's confident. How good we think a movie is is completely irrelevant to the reasoning for showing these movies? Yeah, I mean, we've chosen them all based on watchability, which, you know, is a sort of an absolute value. Like, a very, very bad movie is very, very watchable in the same way, the very, very good movies. You don't want a middling movie. We have no middling movies. the, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, the, thi, thi, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, their, th. th. theat. th th th theat. the th th theateat, their, theirthat really stands out about the lineup for the festival is that all of the movies are movies that you like your layman may not have actually watched before so you're more likely to go see like I know I'm really excited to see Howard the

dark I've never seen it before like I'm a experience. Yeah I'm really excited to see Hellraiser on the big screen. All right well so the first first first first first first first first first first first first the first the first the first the first the first. the first. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to see Hellraiser on the big screen. All right, well, so the first weekend, finishing off June, we are also joined by the wonderful steady as she goes. Yeah, our pal, towel. We love you, pal. Um, who will be performing a tribute to the score before the film, which would be absolutely am I remembering right that the score is American rock band Toto. Yes, that's right with one or two songs from Brian May as well. Oh really? He has predominantly Toto.

He must have been very cheap back in that time. Also, he's just like a fucking massive science, like sci-fi nut. Like I think he would have just been like yes before that if you mentioned. You know what I think of space opera, Brian May. And then the second week, we're kicking off the weekend with a double feature of the Barry Sonnenfeld Adams Family Movies. Excellent.

Which I personally feel some of the coolest movies made around that time. I mean, I think you can just look at like how many Wednesday Adams dresses Dangerfield has sold in the last 10 years as like evidence of how successful they were about worming into people's brains. And if Pinterest has anything to say about it to the number of screenshots from these films like I feel like I've seen this movie like in its entirety in gift form. They struck a tone in those two movies that is unbelievable like if they made that made the Adams Family movies now they just wouldn't be the same thing in terms of like it would be a little bit more obvious in terms of like the gothigness of it or

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the antithesis to married with children. Yeah. I love my wife I sleep in a big bed with my wife. Yeah. It's weird because it wasn't such a like a cultural moment of obviously the nuclear family is the standard but the standard is also just misery. And then to have this like couple where they have a goofy stick which is we think bad things are good but we're so fucking into each other and into our children. So publicly horny all the time. Adam's family were brave enough to say,

happy wife, happy life. Yeah. The only ones to do it. The only miserable person in the whole family being Gomez, who seems to have some semblance of like clinical depression in the movie, opposed to any sort of environmental thing I mean. Which they think is good, I think according to their rules. Everything at the DSM 5 sounds sounds sounds... But he's a recommendation to them.

It's wonderful. They're wholesome movies. And they look up for their family and they love their family. Yeah. I think I'm going to go to every single one of these movies now that I'm going through it. So after the Adam's family, what else have we got? We have, weird, faked up, family their family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, me, because I have, yeah, I couldn't do this. It's not that many movies. How the Duck and Super Mario Bros. Yeah, in that order? I think so. No, it is.

It is in that order. You're testing him now. Yeah. How the duck being a moviearnassi little freaks, but in a different way. I think Howard the Duck is, again, eminently watchable, this is what I want to couch before everything else I say about it, deeply unpleasant film. Just the... Conceptually, you know, he is a duck from outer space, an anthropomorphic duck from outer space

who has come to Earth, uh, through some sort of time space hijinks. But he is he he he he he he he is is is is is is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, who has come to earth through some sort of time space hijinks, but he is unbelievably horny for human women, one human woman in particular, and they really just make that like the undercurrent of the entire movie. This is also a Marvel movie. Yeah, one of the first live-action, well, mainstream Hollywood. Directed by a little known director by the name of George Lucas. Yeah, Jorge Lucas, I believe. So you've got David Lynch and George Lucas. This is a very esteemed film fest.

Absolutely. But yeah, early bat shit, bizarre movie to adapt into a movie, like property to adapt into a movie. All of the characters. A horny, a thine, a thine, a thine, a thia, a thia, a thia, a thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thate, thi, thatea, thatian, thatian, thian, tham, tham, thamamamamamamatian, thamamam adaptation, tham, thatatian, thian, thian, thian, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, th adaptations, tha, thatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatate, thate, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thateaaaaaaaaaaaaaaua, thatea, thatea, thate like property to adapt into a movie A horny talking cartoon duck and one that like it wasn't like this was how the duck was one where kids were like Holy fuck I love Howard the duck he's my hero he was like a was a weird nasty little satirical sort of joke character likethat no one had that much love for. It was such an odd choice. But then it also pairs quite well Super Mario Brothers, because that is, I think the first live action adaptation of a video game as a feature film.

The first, the very first video game movie was the animated Super Mario movie, the Japanese one. But, yeah, the live action one, I'm pretty sure was the animated Super Mario movie the Japanese one. Yeah, but yeah the live-action one I'm pretty sure was the first. So paving the way for such other video game adaptation greats as... I was gonna say battleship but that's a blood rain. Blood rain. Yeah blood rain. Yeah blood rain. Yeah it'll just pretend I said blood rain. That's the only... Trying to follow the decision-making process of what's great about Mario Brothers and how can we translate that to the big screen? Oh my God, it's an impossible venture. The only thing that you keep from the game is plumbers.

No other elements whatsoever. It's been a while since I've seen it but is there a lot of like turtle killing? They do not jumpy boots. Sam, they get th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th th, th th, th, th, th, th, th, th th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the that, the that, their, that, that, that, their, that, their that, that, th lot of turtles. No, but they give them those jumpy boots. Sam, you get everything you know about Super Mario. Also this is kind of a grim and gritty take on Marlowe. Yeah this isn't this isn't your dad's Supermario. Yeah this isn't your grand toyde runner. This ain't no game. Not just grim and gritty in aesthetic and tone but also thoroughthoroughly miserable for everyone involved in the making of the movie. Who plays Bowser again and some... It's Dennis Hopper. Right off the back of blue velvet, right? Who said that he just did it because his kids liked the game. His kids liked their kids liked it. And his kids needed new shoes. Yeah, he was also is why, um, Roe, Joel Julia, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th.... th. th. Yeah, to, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. It, th.'s like, oh my kids liked it and that ended up being the first, the last movie he did before he passed away. Yeah he was very

ill during Street Photo. He's very sick and he looked it. Apparently Bob Hoskins and John Legueazamo hated working on it so much that they were just drunk all the time. Oh that's great. So they there's a point that reason to come to see this movie. They had the the the the the the the the movie. They the movie. They the movie. They's. They're reason. They're reason. They're reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason the the the the to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come. to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come. to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to come. So to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the. the the the. the. th come and see this movie they had a minor I believe a drink driving accident on the set of like obviously it went out on the road but one of them was drunk and driving one of the cars and ended up injuring one of the other ones but yeah they are they did not enjoy being there. Well I mean I shouldn't have called drug driving I should say it was a someone threw a blue shell their car That's a facelious. Yeah. Mario cart for drunk driving. Yeah. Someone's finger got broken in that incident is my recollection.

But this is based on me from when I presented this movie at Netherworld like four years ago. So I might not have retained all of that information correctly. It's one of those ones where the directors pretty much haven't directed another movie before or after. Yep. Husband and wife, a trio. Yep. I was about to say a husband and wife trio that is the movie sense. Hey, that can happen. Two husbands one wife?

Absolutely. They released a super cut that sort of leaked on the line recently. Oh no, so you don't like the longer version of it. Yeah, it's another half an hour of a director. Brian Brunson's action, yeah. And John Leguezamo dies in a car accident. The pre-studio the moment. It's all the shots of people jumping out of the way of giant bullets with faces or something. And then to finish this off, we have our horny horror night. That's right. Yeah.

The horniest of horror. Mm-hmm. A horny hooper movie. Yeah, just an extremely beautiful nude woman walking around nude for I think the entire movie. Real Spacey's energy. She's a vampire from space. Yes, yeah because there were vampires lying dormant in a spaceship that was behind Haley's comet. Incredible which I. Which I don't know what it is, but for me, abandoned spaceship is just catnip for my brain. Oh yeah. This is a concept, I'm like, fuck yes.

And whatever's in there, I'm happy. You give that to Cannon Films and Toby Hooper, and film it in England, I assume. There's a lot of English actors in this movie. Yeah, you got a Patrick Stewart. And it's got, arguably, maybe outside of Big Trouble in Little China, the coolest rotoscope, lightning about the movie? It looks so, mixed with some good, practical sort of puppets effects as well. Descated Vampire Corpses. It looks so good. It's such a, this movie, it's's got like a pretty high production value, like they put a

fair amount of money into it. And it's just, yeah, it's weird, it looks great, it's based on a novel that, my recollection is the novel is just straight up called The Space Fair Buyers. Yeah, I looked it up the other day. Why fuck around? Written by an absolute fucking crackpot called Colin Wilson, who he did two different things throughout his career as a writer. He wrote a bunch of books that were sort of adjacent to the Cthulhu Mythos type stuff, so writing like H.P. Lovecraft style weird fiction. But then he wrote

a bunch of like, quote, unquote, non-fiction about the paranormal. He wrote a biography of Rasputan that was predicated in the idea that magic is real. He wrote, he he, he he, he he, he he, he th, he th, he w wrote, he w wrote, he w wrote, he w-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-a, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wi, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he wrote, he thi, he thi, he th-a, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi-a, thi-a, thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-c-a-a-c-a-a-c-c-c-c-c-c-a-a-c-c-tttttttttttttttri-a, the paranormal. He wrote a biography of Rasputin that was predicated in the idea that magic is real. He wrote several books about reincarnation and things along those lines. He was this guy that like you read any of his fiction like the space vampires and the other stuff he's written and you're like, oh this man thinks all of this is real, a hundred percent. Ended up making just a delightful, very weird looking, very cool movie that I think makes a lot of sense to screen with Hellraiser due to the long tas. And also no one would have seen this at the movies and no I think a lot of people wouldn't have even seen it. So this would be a good introduction to that movie for a lot of people.

And I hope a lot of people come to sort of like a little bonus to maybe revisit Hellraiser or to see Heraiser for the first time. Hellraiser is just such a fucking good movie. The first two Hellraiser movies, which as far as I know are two of the only three Hellraiser movies that were made. Absolutely. I mean the first Hellraiser, you know, much like the first Rambo, the most franchise idea that ever came out, somehow inexplicably, both ended up with many, many sequels. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thia. thia thia the. that. their thease. the first the first the first the first the first the first the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. Well, their. Well, their. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. I. th. I. th. th. the. I. th. I. th. I.els. They didn't probably need them. Hellraiser has like got to have the sharpest drop off in terms of quality straight away. Maybe I haven't seen my inferno was great. Hellraiser fantastic. Every time I see it, it just gets bumped up again. Like I love it more and more. It's a beautiful, gauzy sort of romance movie set in a spooky house. I love that it's a weird small horror tale.

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both yeah between the other lightning movies yeah get a taste for it also if we actively feel the people to try and find ones that we miss we're just getting farther farther f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. th. the t to try and find ones that we missed, we're just getting fodder for next year so it really. Yeah, it's so possible. I was going to say you can leave it open-ended, but I didn't want to like throw you guys under the Boulth bus. Yeah, if you have complaints about any movies that didn't make it into this year's email, contact at Buntavista.. theysta. Yeah. Andrew. And Andrew. And Andrew. And Andrew. And Andrew. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah...............................................................................................................................................................ista.com, please. Specifically, Andrew, yes. Gripes, complaints, suggestions for next year. Like you might have suggestions for more rotoscope lightning movies.

Maybe you just have some general grievances with other things. Maybe your neighbor's bins or something. Throw them all in the email. Andrew at Bonavist. Yeah, send them through. Well, we extremely hope that people come and join us for these afternoons. There is nothing better in the universe than having exactly two beers and spending an afternoon in darkness watching a movie. And we get to do that twice in a row on most of these days.

Yeah. That is incredible. And one of my favorite things about this is over the past couple of years these unprecedented times, I think cinemas have had to adapt, sort of delving back and playing older movies is something that more cinemas should do. You know, there's dozens of movies out there in the world, maybe hundreds. We've never counted. There's dozens of them.

Dozens of movies. And so many of them are just ripe for being seen on a big screen. And this is a perfect in cap cap a perfect encapsulation of this and it's like go see some fun movies with your friends have two beers as you said fucking beautiful. And everyone is terrible watching movies at home. Everybody. Well you need the horrible disciplinary jail of a cinema. You're forced to watch it in a space when you cannot look up who that bit part was on IMDB and go down the rabbit hole of looking

up 37 Wikipedia pages. You can't take out your phone. Man, while you're watching a movie. Every five minutes just like tapping your boyfriend's arm being like who is that guy, who is that guy? Look it up. Luckily that's exactly what boyfriends are for. Yeah. It's being able to look at someone and be like, yeah, that's JK. So there is. The use of boyfriends is for using torrenting websites and for looking up actors' names on letterbox to that's it. I'm not a gender essentialist by any means, but I think boyfriends are there to identify

Wallace Sean when he appears. And then fun Wallace Sean. Was it someone on Twitter recently that said Wallace Sean was like the best sex they've ever had in their life? Oh yeah, they heard a story that a lady said that hands down the best sexual experience of her life was Wallace. Was with Wallace? Like no competition? Like ten times better than anyone else. She was like emphatic about, she's like no competition. Like, just this the pinnacle of like sexual desires. He's like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like a like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. He's like. the like. the. the. the. they's like. they're like. they're like. the. they're like. they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're like their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the their the the the their their their their their the like just this the pinnacle of like sexual desires he's like a massive like very well read like leftist like essentially a communist who's been like very active in like union movements and

stuff for his entire life I love Walla short he was like oh it's that guy that talks weird and now I'm just like there's my hero the king of fucking a different kind of union movement yeah yeah yeah weird and now I'm just like, there's my hero, the king of fucking Wallace, Sean. A different kind of union movement. Yeah, you may not like it, but this is what big physical battle looks like. This has been Wallace, Sean, our. Yeah, we love you Wallace. So we've got the lineup for the, for the festival down. I think it's probably worthwhile

30 odd minutes into this episode to actually explain what rotoscoping, rotoscope lightning actually is. Sure. And I looked up beforehand just like a little cursory because I was like I'm worried that I'm not using the right terminology for it. I'm like rotoscope lightning sounds right but is it? It is. I do I'm not using the right terminology for it. I'm like, rotoscope lightning sounds right, but is it? It is. I do have a degree in technically animation. Oh. Yeah, it is on the surface probably misleading to a very small amount of people who know what the term rotoscoping is.

Which is usually, say, tracing frames of film of people moving much like you see in old Disney movies. Yeah in the Ralph Baxi movies and like yeah Technic pioneered I believe by our dear friends. The Fleischer. The Fleischer brothers. Yes and it kind of... It's so cool. So Rotoscope Lightning is effectively an animation style where you've got live action film and then you're animating over the top of it. But the way they do it's really cool. So basically they draw onto a clear cell a black line effectively and then they film it in

negative so the black line becomes blindingly white. And that's how it becomes the lightning strike. And then afterwards they add the like, you know, the tel-tale-tale-the-the-the-the-the- the- the the the the the the the the tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie- the-tie- the- the-in, the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the-in, the the-in, the-in, the-in, the-in, over-in, over over over over over over the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the-in an an th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-tie-light. tha-light. tel-n. tel-light. tel-n. tel-n. th-n. th-n. th-n. the-tie blindingly white. And that's how it becomes the lightning strike. And then afterwards they add the like, you know, the tel-tail purple hue and glow and all that kind of stuff. But the thing that I really like about the rotoscope lightning is that it looks better than real. Yep. You know what I mean? Like lightning is cool in still photography, you know. But it's not something that looks good when films. It's got the same energy of very specific, like,

stop motion animation of doing the thing to your brain where you watch it on a film and you're like, shit, that rules, the fucking rules. Yeah, it's better than life. And so, you know, one thing that was really cool to me about when you guys announce, boff, fuck me. If you just pronounce it properly, we'd really appreciate you taking this festival seriously. It's sometimes gets harder every time I say. There's two ass, there's bough.

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If you are between the age of, say, 30 and 40, a lot of, this effect was sort of peaking in your formative years of watching movies, but you know you didn't have the language to describe it because you never heard the words rotoscope lightning before in your life. You probably heard the word lightning before. And maybe even the word rotoscope, but not, you know, nex to each other. And you would never sort of thought of it as a specific phenomenon either. So I think you, you just, you know, there there there was there was there was there was there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, there was a there was a there was a there was a there was a there was a th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thee. the. the. thi. the. the. thi. the. thi. thi. the. th was a lot of movies in the 80s and early 90s that just that was the effect of du jour where they're like, ooh, we gotta let you know something

mystical is happening so they check that in there. And then you don't really file that away, and then when you think about it, you're like, oh, fuck yeah. Yeah, there is a little bit of that in that in that in that in that in remember seeing you know and then for me when we first started doing 2 bit movie club my like overarching theme of the movies that I wanted to show in Netherworld was essentially ones that had rotoscope lightning in them it wasn't explicit but I was like all right you live action street fighter your live action mortal combat your teenteenage mutant Ninja Turtles, all those sorts of movies from the early 90s, late 80s, that was defined a very specific look and feel where they were like kind of dark,

but they had these special effects in them where, yeah, I think we're tapping into a part of people's brains where they were like, that's what I liked seeing as a child. And I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's like, that's like, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's, that's that's that's, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's thee. thei. theii. theiiiii. theii. that's that's that's theei. that's that about that for a while. It's like a visual shorthand for a certain kind of movie like a certain kind of genre. It's, we've tried to convey that in the copy that we've written for everything but I think it's kind of hard but for me it was just like you saw that and you're like well the movie's trying to tell you weird shit is happening but that weird shit is cool. Unearthliness of some kind. Yeah, it is cool. And that's basically sums it all up right. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool.

I don't know if so you guys know this, but the forbidden planet that you're screening is actually the first use of rotoscope lightning ever. Yeah, a guy called, oh sorry. Joshua Neda. He invented rotoscope lightning. So he was the visual effects supervisor for Disney in the 50s. So he did Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, like all of these classics. A few small films there. Lots of yeah. Oh yeah. Just a little underdog company called Disney.

And MGM approached him and they're like we're making this fabulous sci-fi movie but we need to like bring something a little special, a little little sprinkling of seasoning over the top of it and they lent him out to MGM and he like invented the like negative filming effect of how to do the rotoscope lighting. And for the planet's very greedy as well in that it's not just the rotoscope lighting in that movie that really is groundbreaking special effects. There's plenty of stuff that happens in that movie that really stepped up. Even the, even that was previously used,

the digital mats that they use as backgrounds in that. Oh my god, the map paintings that movie. It's insane insane insane insane insane insane insane the the th insane insane th insane th insane of I'd, is it? The, like the, the demon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had to like edit out a bunch of the original footage of it that they'd like animated because it was too scary for screen audiences. 1956. They're like, there's lightning, I don't know, it's too freaky. Someone's got to get in there and help these guys. I think it's such a wonderful thing as well, like comparative to so many of the other science fiction movies that would have been coming out of the time of them being genuinely be movies. Not in like a denigrating way. Like, they were genuinely B movies. They would be pictures. They would be the second one. They would be. They would be pictures. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They would. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be. They would be.. They would be. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. fiction movie was like what if there was a big ant? Yeah. What if there was a big? There are like four of those and they were all amazing all of the big ant movies turned out amazing for some reason. I would love I would love to be you know existed in the 50s to see what the actual in-person reaction to the time was whether yeah. Well forbidden planet got nominated for a the the forbidden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their was. their was was. their was was. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the there was. there was. there was. there was. there was. there was. there was. there was. the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the there was. there it is based off Shakespeare's The Tempest, you know.

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festival. And the type of poster that we're doing for this is the Australian Daybill, Ben. Could you tell us a little bit about it? Sure. So the world has countless different kinds of formats for the kind of posters that are around the world and really strangely Australia ended up with a very particular format which is kind of the perfect format in my humble opinion. The reasoning for it is paper space. Basically there was a couple of different sizes for movie posters in Australia. One was more of like a stock standard poster size. They called that a one sheet. The other kind was the Australian Daybill.

And this existed in a bunch of different sizes over the years but the predominant size for it which was from about World War II through to about the late 80s early 90s was 13 inch by 30. So nice skinny portrait I suppose the closest thing that would be to that is like a theater day bill. But most theater day bills look like there for the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their. their. Ie. Ie. Ie. I was their. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm the the the the te.e. te. the the te. the te. the the the the the the the therea.e like they're for the end of the opera or cats or something. These got the benefit of movie imagery to sort of draw upon. In Australia really strangely for at least probably the first 30 years of that particular size because it was a unique format size they couldn't really just take the digital asset, sorry, digital assets, they didn't have digital assets in the 40s.

They had the exact sort of same artwork that they did for a lot of the overseas releases. They ended up having local artists end up creating unique content for them. And then when we got to sort of like the 70s and 80s, that practice kept up until about the 80s when they did start using the overseas assets for them but they got to format them in a slightly different way. And personally I just think that having sort of like a skinny portrait is a really really cool visual thing. It's a challenging shape for an artist to not only like create a composition in but also fit all of the information of the movie like all that kind of stuff and you see the comparisons between the stock standard film posters of you know in America and that and then compare it to the Australian Daybill version and sometimes you'll have the exact same artwork in both posters

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And so they could also add a big thing at the bottom of it saying, not suitable for children. Yeah, which was a primary thing to put on posters at the time. It's such an odd visual format in that like, obviously we have two eyes generally eyes generally to theans. wider sort of aspect, which is why generally photos a landscape. And like, our eyes are meant to look at something that is a little bit wider than it is tall, and then otherwise we scan for new visual information.

Having something that's tall and narrow is completely counterintuitive to how we look at things. So, like, you obviously need to have a very strong focal point to bring the eye into it. But then the way that we take in that information is scanning it up and down. So you can sort of stack elements into it in a way that you wouldn't. It becomes instead of like taking in the whole of an image, you're taking in elements of an image in sequence. It's like a collage almost like... There's a hierarchy there, which is pretty ideal for a movie poster where you need to convey certain information. Like several elements at once, well not even at once, like several elements instead of just

being like like, all right, this is my thing, you want to be like, all right, first, oh, there's my hero image, which is the main guy, what else? Oh, there's a speed boat at the bottom? Ooh, there's some bikini ladies at the top. Allk. All. Oh, they. Oh, they. Oh, they. Oh, their. Oh, their, their, their, their, their, th. Oh, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, well, well, well, their, well, well, well, well, tho, their, well, well, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well. Well, th. Well, there. Well, theree, thee. Well, thee. Well, their, their. Well, their, their. Well, their their.e. Well, their their their their their their their their. Well, that. There's the title of the movie directly under that. And the idea that you'd have these artists creating these posters, a lot of the time without ever having actually seen the film, which is awesome. We'll have any information on it. Part of the charm is how people interpret these things. Or maybe the other day? It was like a video game artwork

that was very different to the. It was Mega Man. Mega Man. Like the American release of Mega Man is a pretty famous like painting. It's beautiful in how like ridiculous it is compared to like all the Japanese artwork for Mega Man. And it's just this like attempt to like photo realistic kind of like, the the the the the the art. the art. the art. the art. the art. the the art. I, the the art. I, the art, the art, th. I, the th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, they's, thi, they's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they, they, they. I'm, they. Like, they. Like, they.. It's, they. It's, they. Like, they. Like, they. Like, they. Like, like, like, like attempt at like photorealistic kind of like man. The only information the artist got was Mega Man. They're like all right is this realistic man with the most like bizarre leg

anatomy I've ever seen. It looks like he's meant to be riding a horse but in like a tropical I don't know there's like palm trees if I remember right but just that thing of like we have the, the, these fragments of like we have the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the only only only only only only only only the the the the only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only only the only the only the only the only the only the only only only only the only only the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the only only only only only only only only only only only only the the only only only only only only only only only only only only only the only only only only only only only the only only only only the, the, the,, I don't know, there's like palm trees if I remember right, but just that thing of like we have these fragments of what this is supposed to be. It's so open to interpretation. You have your source material which is like eight pixels of face. It's like a blue block. Yeah. Like a black and white photo that the production company sent you of like the sketches from the the production company. You have like like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like have have have have have like the like the like the like the like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the fragments the fragments the fragments the fragments these have have have have have have have have have have have these have these have these have these have these have these have these have these have these have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.'re not getting like the big like kit brief from the production company. You're not given the visual Bible and all this stuff. But yeah, go back to the day bills

and it's like we're talking about with digital assets but sometimes before that they'll just get maybe the US or the European poster and have to just get out the old Stanley knife and cut up and rearrange the taller format format. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoauctionauction. Weaug. Weaugnuc. Weaugn. Weaugn. Weaug. We're the the the the the the the the the the the the the production production production. the the the the the the production production production production production the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoau.c.c.c.c.eau.c.eau.eau.eau. teau. teau. teau. teau. teau. the teau cut up and rearrange to fit the taller format. And sometimes you see ones that are a bit less care put into them. There's a lot of negative space at the top and bottom. Again, just painting tiny little feet at the bottom. I wish more of them did paint tiny little feet. Yeah, yeah. I wish more of them did paint tiny little for the year-old. And Ben, you are an avid collector of daybills as well. You've got quite a sizable collection of, not just daybills, but all things, kind of beautiful

movies, pop culture, etc. Do you have a favorite kind of hallmark of the daybills that stand out to you? You mentioned the not suitable for children kind of comment at the bottom there, that's pretty cool. I think with the Australian Day Bills, it's the ones that you look at where you're like, that is weird and unusual. I think we saw a taxi driver one the other day that you just look at it and you're like who approved that? Who? How did that exist? It was so minimalist in its design. It looked like a child, a copyl. that's that, just black on white. Incredible design.

It's fantastic. But I think my favorite kind of it. It's sort of like there's a particular period from like the 50s to the 70s where they're doing them as lithographs where they have a particular look to it. For me, that's the ultimate crack. But I think larger than that, the thing that I find I attractive about them is that dables are not something you find in the wild. There are a very strange thing to come across.

They would have only been sent to cinema chains and drive-in theaters and whatnot. As promo material, the majority of them would have been thrown out. The only reason they exist in the universe is because someone that worked at the theater held on to them because someone that took over a theater, put them into a box somewhere and kept putting them around the place or because they gave them to family members or whatever, otherwise they wouldn't exist. So there wasn't much of a reason to it. Australia doesn't have a huge flea market culture. You know, we obviously do garage sales, almost immediately a collector market from the get-go. It's only have gone from a couple of sources onwards. And really strangely with Australian daybills it's it's state a really cheap market

and especially in comparison to a lot of movie poster markets overseas. If you look through like a US 1 sheets they go for a lot of money especially stuff from 50s and 60s even pretty innocuous stuff goes for a decent amount of money. But for a long of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of th th th th the th th th th the th th th th th of of th of to to of to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the 50s and 60s. Even pretty innocuous stuff goes for a decent amount of money. But for a long time now in Australia, you can go through certain movie websites who are still very diligently collecting them and buying collections from people who used to own cinema chains in the 60s and 70s, or eBay would be the primary place, and the main cost of like an Australian 'able is probably between $20 and $60.

That's the majority of them. Anything above that is actually genuinely a rarity. Improvious to inflation just like. So it becomes a very collectible format and a lot of it's just absolutely rife with stuff that even if the actual content was rubbish even if the movie was absolute trash in the same vein as like really really really awesome looking VHS horror covers it's got that exact same appeal of just like I just want that on my wall because it looks old

and awesome. And also just by virtue of the media type like you'd have specific cinemas that were making their own daybills like Sam was saying with the cutouts and collaging and stuff. So, you know, one movie might have several different types of day bills, not just one universal type. So you've got this kind of really cool uniqueness to it. And I think maybe it's possible that it hasn't, like the market hasn't driven up the prices for it, because I think a lot of people don't actually know what they are. And I haven't recognized them as like part of kind of Australian cinematic history. It's like a very niche knowledge.

It's a real deep nerd shit. Which is why it's fun that like now this is obviously our second time doing something around the Australian day bill. It's like talking to people about it. You get the blank stairs. You sound crazy. Well, yeah. Well, the moment you start a conversation off with like, well, paper formats come in and you're like, oh, fuck. It was folded twice and then sent off to the cinema and sound this.

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different things that you really loved about it, and I think putting it in the hands of an illustrator, they're going to take the stuff that you know maybe like a different interpretation of it. So, you, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thi, thr-a, thr-a, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thin, thin, thin, thin, thrown, thrown, thrown, their, the, thean, throan, thean, their, throan, thean, thean, thean, the, thetake the stuff that, you know, maybe like a different interpretation of it. So they're not going to go, oh, fuck yeah, Harrison Ford, I'm going to draw Harrison Ford, and all of the actors in this movie and going to put them all on one poster because the actors are the thing that's coolest about this movie. They're going to go, those visual elements and then splash it on the page and that's what makes those things so unique Which yeah, it's for me it like we have a really good selection of artists. They're all going to do Take some movies that I obviously really love because we chose them for this film first one like Sam for you know like I believe you're doing invasion of astro must right. You know like I believe. I believe you're like I believe. I believe. I you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you're I believe you're you're you're you're doing. I believe you're doing you're doing. I believe you're doing. I believe you're doing. I believe you're doing. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe. I'm you're doing the invasion. I believe. I'm you you you the the invasion. I the invasion. I you you the invasion. I you the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the invasion. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm th. I believe. I believe. th. th. th thi the thi have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lineup and I've been a huge fan of your aunt for like fucking ages.

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I will watch Harrison Ford movie. Yeah. And in the hindsight of a show like feature presentation where you get artists to do their take on it. They're not constrained to that. It's more like, what appeals to you from this movie? What speaks to your like, I don't know, style? So you can just riff on it and take what you like and it's not solely for the purpose of advertising the movie.

It's just like, I want to do my love letter to whatever it is I like about this movie. Yeah. In a cool format like. Without like the kind of like branding parameters that you usually put through when you're doing like commissioned artwork or whatever. So with like the previous feature presentation, there were heaps of them where people are like, I just love this poster. I don't know what this movie is. But I will buy, I will spend my hard-earned money on buying this poster because it looks cool. And then I'll watch watchthem. Part of the whole appeal of movie posters in general, it's like you want to catch someone's

eye and make them interested so that hopefully they will spend money to go and watch this movie or... Yeah, we will also cynically be using these posters as advertising material, but you know, they're not being made for that purpose. Secondary in nature. It's just a happy put on your wall. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we just want people to make shit that looks cool. And like yeah, there's not that aspect of trying to trick people into seeing a movie. It's someone who has watched a movie and been like, well, this is what I love

about it. So this is the thing I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put the the to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to to to to to to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put the thing I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I'm going I do think anyone going to Balf is not being tricked so much I think it's... Although if you are being tricked we will still take your money. Also yeah. The original lightning grifters. I was very fortunate about 15 years ago to work with a work closer with a guy who actually ran a drive-in cinema in the late 70s. And as a result of that his house was absolutely just filled with all the promo material because he never threw it all out. So when I'm sort of asking him sort of drilling him about, I'm like, what have you got? I want to see it? I want to see it. I ended up just bringing in boxes. He ended up just bringing in some boxes.

He ended up just bringing in some of the shit the way dables are, they're folded in like two folds. So if you're going to keep them, you're going to keep them in a relatively small piece of real estate and they're all going to be flat and you won't be able to see any of them even if you've got hundreds of them there. So I can understand if there hasn't been sort of like a huge push in the collector market, they've gone from something that you could maybe collect for 20 bucks or 30 bucks a piece to they are going for 60 to 100 dollars a piece, which is really strange. But that's happened with a lot of collectors markets over over COVID. It doesn't seem to have done that to Australian day bills. It's still a relatively untapped collector market. But I get it in terms of they're not as readily visual to put into a house somewhere. They're not like trading cards that you keep into a folder and just flick through. They're not VHS that you put in the spine out of the wall.

They're not vinyl that you can use as, you know, like a beautiful representation of your loves in the universe. For a lot of it, unless you can a fork out to pay for unique size frames.they are generally going to sit in a pile folded up where they sort of need to be folded and fold out. I personally love pulling them out. Well that's the fun, the digging through like what's in here. Maybe I'll find exactly what that movie is that I want. A while ago coming across a stall somewhere of day bills. Yeah. You have to dig. You have to dig. The first time, just digging through is like,

I'm gonna look for like a video drone one. Yeah. Digging through and then finding it and be like, oh shit, like I'm a manifest. It's a, like, no, just the fact that there was so many there's like, if I have this in mind, it's probably in here, it just that first day digging through and like a few of us and just being so excited to find this just like kind of like you were saying just piles and piles like not organ anyone that's ever

selling them you're like yeah what sort of stuff have you gone there like I don't know man and the guy's he was he was exactly like that and after that first day of like maybe four or five of us sort of like freaking out and digging through he was like the the the the the the the the the th, th, like th, like th, like th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the th. the the th. Like, like, like, like, like, like like freaking out and digging through he was like, oh, go back the next day. Every price is jacked up. Yeah, he's basically like this guy had a stolen supernova like five of us like you know in our 20s like black leather jackets and shit going below. And then we'll come back later and buy some tomorrow. And he's like, oh shit, the kids are here to buy it.

Like rent's obviously going up. So we're going to jack up the prices. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't, I think the video drone one was maybe a bit out of my budget at the time. But I did walk away with very nice Australian day bill poster for the arena with Pam Greer. Oh yeah. Beautiful, beautifully made. There's a very particular period that looks the coolest though. Yeah, it's the lithotones. It's extremely the 60s lithographs.

If I was queen of the universe, we'd be doing lithotrines on to newspaper. But ironically, what was the cheapest? The cheapest thing to do and working within these budgetary restraints is now expensive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. the cheapest. Yeah. Yeah. I's, the cheapest. I's, the cheapest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's. It's the. It's. It's the. It's the. I. It's. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the do and working within these budgetary restraints is now expensive to do. Yeah, just completely, yeah, if you want to spend like $250 on a brand new day-bills, we were initially looking into like printing them on the sort of like newsprint and stuff like that, something a bit more faithful to the, what day bills are printed on, which is like cheap, disposable paper. Turns out nowadays that's annoying and difficult and expensive to do to find someone who wants to do it in the way you want.

There's this great on flow effect of that in Australian Daybills as well and that all the advertising for the movies from the 70s makes the movies look like they're from the 60s and 50s. Yeah. That's just very Australia in general. Well, I think we've pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty prettyay that I wanted to chat about the like details of the festival and rotoscope lightning. Did you guys have anything you wanted to add or plug before we? If you live in Brisbane, we cannot urge you enough to keep up to date with a Netherworld events page and maybe scratch bar events page as well just to keep in the know of what 2bit movie club events are coming up. Yeah, we got a Facebook group you can join.

It's 2 bit movie club. And that we just post everything that we're doing in there because as we were saying before, there's basically it's very hard to actually reach people on any sort of social media at the moment. If you want to see what's going on with this festival check out WWW dot boff dot com how do you spell that Ben? That is B-O-R-L-F dot com boff and how is it pronounced just just one more time also we actually had some early chats about this where we had to arrive at a consensus around it yeah yeah Bolf. Bolf. The lovely Luke Shield has done some enamel pins that you can get as being part of a few

of the screenings. You can get a season pass for cheaper than it would be for individual passes. You can get double feature passes for cheaper than it would be to get the individual movies by themselves. Yeah. And like if you're already out of the house, you may as well see two fucking movies. You might as well. Like what are you going to do? Go home? What's the difference between 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. then you're going to go home

between 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. then you're not doing anything special between 6 and 8 p.m. and then you're not doing anything special. Yeah, it's a license. You can have your beer in the movie. That's true. You can drink at the cinema. It is licensed. When is the launch? When's the screening of June with steady as she goes? It is on Friday the 29th of July. 29th of July. That's Friday, the 29th of July, both kicks off. And then every following weekend. It's that Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the the the the th. thuuseseseseseseseseseseseuseuice the the the the the thuice. thuice. the the thu it's three it's that Friday Saturday Sunday

we're gonna give you exactly four days rest amazing then we hit you again again for all three days how you know this like it's a monster truck show I can we can we get some monster trucks to they. Can we get some monster trucks yeah yeah I'll see what I can do actually we hit up can get gravedigger on the blow I I'm sorry one wants a June dance. The Brisbane Monster Truck Show is on... I was a big advocate for worm dance. Aren't you feel speedway?

Yeah. This weekend. Really? As we'reto the lightning one version of it. Is that bolst? Slop. Slop. We could make it harder to say Ben. We could. How about we get rid of every vowel out of it. These are perfect ideas. Sloughf. Slime film festival located in Brisbane. Slurp. flurb. So it's just like, Slubf. Slubf. Slubf. Nothing but consonants just the long way through. Just a bee in there as well. On the bright side, none of these domains are going to be

bought. No, this is so good. I can't have got Balf. Like a Welsh local council or something. Or just like someone's mashed a keyboard. Yeah. his domains. Like, what a domain. Yeah. Oh, guys, thank you so much for coming and chatting about the festival. I'm so excited. And Sam and I, we're going to be spending the next few weeks chatting with each of the artists that we've commissioned to create their own original daybills. To talk to each of these artists about the specific movie they're doing a poster

for and a bit of their like insight, bit of the process. Yeah, and just about, you know, bloody movies, mate. What do artists like about movies? It's far often less about the movie and far often more about the VHS cover they saw when they were eight and gave the nightmares for the rest of their life. Like yeah, it's so much of what gets you hooked into movies is just. Peaking through the people of the film through its artwork. Or just what you imagine from seeing that cover or that poster.

And just hoping like what is that? What is that and hoping? And hoping that maybe the artwork will reflect what the actual movie is and it's a 50-50 You can't wait to see all the artworks. Yeah, me too. Yeah, we're seeing a few rolling and they're looking What would be the best worm dance song to go out on if I could put a little worm song on this? It's obviously, it's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to th. to th. to to th. I to to to th. I th. I th. I to th. I to th. I thi. I to to the. I the. I'm to to to to the. I to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I the. I th top of this. Obviously it's a weapon of choice by a fat boy slim. I believe it is Dr. Worm. I very embarrassing did not know that weapon of choice was about June until you pointed it out to me very recently. Yeah, I can't even imagine. My favorite video clip ever made so many times.

What would those words mean? I don't think it was about June. I didn't think the video the video the video the video the video the video the video the video the video the many times. What would those words mean? I don't know. I didn't think it was about June. I didn't think the video clip with Christopher Walkin dancing around a hotel lobby was about June. Walk without rhythm and you want to track the worm. Yeah, it makes sense when you say oh my god I'm with you Ben Jimin. Thank you for a guy for getting like that. I'm gonna say the menu music for worms Armageddon. Hey. Freepy music for all those games is really just really intense. Yeah it's really it's just haunting. I feel like that composer never played the game. This is like a daybill situation.

He's like writing the music for a completely different game. Oh it says Armageddon. That's sad. Yeah. all right we need some music to still be a song I'm just gonna edit this by just slowly turning down the audience. I'm not a real doctor, but I am a real worm. I am an actual worm. I live like a worm. I like to play the drums. I think I'm getting good, but I can handle criticism. I'll show you what I know, and you can tell me how you thin.