Boonta Vista - UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE: Bone of Contention

Episode Date: April 24, 2020

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Hello and welcome to Buntavista. It's a bonus episode and we are here at the gun show. My name's Theo and I'm extremely overstimulated right now. It's all sorts of horrifying noises. These people are terrifying to me and I'm not having a good time. But I'm going to mosey on down to the shooting range and they're standing imperfect tactical, isoceles stance firing round after round. She hits the big red button which makes the thing. I don't know what any of this is called. What's the thing? The target? Target. Target. Come down and she's put a perfect grouping of rounds into a printout of of Pluto from Kingdom Hearts 3. It's Lucy.

Ridiculous. Pluto's not in Kingdom Hearts 3. Which one's the fucking dog? Talking about Goofy? Goofy! Are we talking about Goofy? What's it? Hang on, fuck. What's the difference between Pluto and Goofy? Oh, the to'n't. Oh, shit, there's two of them. I was just going to say welcome to the gun show, but this is going to have to have a serious chat about this before we continue.

So Pluto doesn't talk or does Pluto talk? Pluto does not talk. Pluto is a dog. But Goofy is also a dog, but he's a much more sentient dog, I suppose. In the same universe. In the same universe. So there's like different levels of dog sentience in the... Yes, so there's a class, there's a cast system. Yeah, goofy, goofy is like an anthropomorphic dog. But Pluto is, is just like a dog style dog. He sleeps in the kennel outside.

He is Mickey's pet. Whereas Goofy talks and says things like, gorge. And if you watch like goofy specific cartoons, he often seems to exist in like a universe where all of the people there are goofy style dogs. So everybody has like... I am not liking this. Yeah, it's horrifying. Like obviously there's the whole world of like, you know, goof troop or whatever the fuck. Like a goofy movie, all that kind of thing. But then there's just like the individual cartoons, like, goof troop or whatever the fuck, like a goofy movie, all that kind of thing. But then there's just like the individual cartoons, like the Disney Shorts. There's a...

One where Goofy is smoking a bunch of cigarettes. Yeah, there's, well there's a whole one where he's setting up his home entertainment system. And it's a big debacle, but he goes to like a Best Buy type store and everybody there is a big goofy style dog and then some men deliver His TV and everything and they're all Big goofy style dogs He's watching the football and guess who the players are. They'll look just like goofy. So what does thi? So what does what does? What does he think Pluto is? He probably doesn't think much because he's a fucking idiot. He's pretty stupid. He's... Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm not even putting this on. No, my mind is spinning. Okay, we've got to move on. And speaking of yelling,

welcome to the gun show. In walks Andrew and he is just smooching his rippling muscles, biceps for days, just kissing on those big wet potato sacks. Oh yeah Andrew. I don't really, good, I'm having a great turn, hold on. There we go, I've taken off my anonymous mask now. To reveal, I'm slinging my, slinging my AR 15 across my back instead of around the front which it's totally fine for me to open carry which is cool I'm relaxing for everyone because they know that they're safe if anything happens. Just pointing to things that you see using the barrel of your gun finger on the trigger.

Hey, the Baskin Robbins is open, pointing the air 15. Yeah, it's a... What a nightmare world. It's no good. It's no good at all. It's no good. I assume we've all seen the footage of the, uh, the people demanding that the economy be reopened so they can have a haircut and play golf. I'm sure. And they're out there wearing like psycho masks in full tactical gear. There's two parts to this though, right?

One is that all of those shots are taken with telephoto lenses and it makes it look like there's way more people than there are, which there aren't, right? Like there's very few people out there. But second of all, on the other hand, these people are freaks. They are, I asked Lucy the other day, what's going on? What's happening with these brains you got over there? What is going on, Lucy? The American brain needs to be examined with calipers. That's really all I have to say the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage tha examined with calipers. That's really all I have to say on it.

It's just, I'm sure you've all seen the footage. I saw a sign today that was like Jesus and it said, let my people gulf. They are just truly, I hate being the person that's like, oh, Americans are so stupid, but just truly like the dumbest people you've ever met in your life. Just no concept of what's going on around them. Truly the Pluto to our goofy. Exactly.

I do feel bad from them though. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that when you have no money in America you might as well die. So, for them, the idea of like not being able to go to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, thi, to, to, tho, to, to, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, their, tho, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to, too, tooomo, tooomo, too, too, too, too, too, tooomoomorrow, too, too, too, too of like not being able to go to their job or their small business or whatever is extremely fucked up because they have no social safety net. But at the same time they're also huge morons who should get a brain. That is all fucked up. What's not fucked up is that because I'm at home all day day, I've got a lot of time to cook one one meal all day long which rules. It's so good. I I th good like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the th good good like their th. I th. I th. I their their th. I their their their their their their their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I's th. I's the th. I's the the the th. I's the the the the th. I's the th. Yeah. I's th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I's the the the the th. I's the th. I've got a lot of time to cook one meal all day long, which rules. It's so good. I did like a six or an eight hour bolognaise the other day.

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light on just a little light and speaking of shitty little lights Andrew you've got a story for us I do I do just thinking about how that's really the ship of Theseus of Bolognaise sources oh absolutely isn't it where did the original source end? I think that's really the ship of Theseus of Bologna's sources. Oh, absolutely. Isn't it? Where did the original source end? I think that's what a lot of molays are like as well. Still never had one. It's probably delicious.

No, me either. Yeah. But I was watching a guy on, what's the Netflix one? Chef's Table, who had done a lot of Mexican stuff and he was like oh yeah this mole that we've got going has been here for years now and we just add more stuff to it and then serve some stuff out of it. But speaking of shitty little lights we've got an Antac day coming up folks less we forget trumpet noises etc. That's why everyone's being so crazy online. We're all freaking out. We're like, how are we going to get out? Remember them?

Who are we going to be mad at? Who are we going to remember? Well, you'd think that because for the last couple of years, everyone that we've been mad at for. And we will. We probably will. White people be trippin' is something that I put to you. So news.com. that are you, which of course we all know is a news limited digital masthead. Maybe we could call it. Sure. It's an amalgamation of all of the terrible news limited tabloids. It's a third zone. Big. It's no good. It's the mole made out of shit of news. They just pour it all into news.com. that you swirl it around. Keep it on the boil 24 hours a day. If you've run out a toilet paper, have you considered news.com. that a good one. Have you can the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. ter ter ter. ter. ter. ter. ter. terms. terms terms terms terms. terms terms terms terms term. terms terms terms terms terms terms terms terms. terms. tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod. tod. tied tied tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. tied. today. It's today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today.'ve run out a toilet paper have you considered news.com dot-a-you it's a good one have you considered printing out

pages. Post it on your Facebook page. So yeah like these guys they love they love Anzac Day but they also they hate virtue signaling don't they? They really hate it they really hate it. Which is weird because they've written an article here in which they've, they hate virtue signaling, don't they? They really hate it. Which is weird because they've written an article here in which they've made a very, very useful resource available to you and me. It says, Anzac Day 2020 will be like no other. With public services, marches and other commemorative gatherings made impossible by the da da da coronavirus.

Australians are being encouraged to mark the day from home. A key part of that is the Light Up the Dawn initiative, backed by the RSL and News Corp newspapers, I'm sure that any English listeners, any British listeners would know this. They love to like act responsible for a thing. They love to say, we're doing a thing by like printing a little third of a page every day about it, and then saying, we're backing this initiative, where other people actually go out and do something, but we're involved somehow. So the Light Up the Dawn Initiative, backed by the R.S.L. and News Corp., in which people will gather in their driveways, on their balconies, or in their windows at 6 a.m. to listen to

a streamed dawn service from the Australian War Memorial and hold up a candle or a light. So what rules about this to me is that it's everything it's everything we're not even at the best part yet but what rules about this to me is that like again we've got the people who you know super against the the young generation of snowflake virtue signalers. Yet for some reason you can't just like remember remember fallen soldiers at home by yourself. The point is to be seen doing it.

It doesn't count. But they hate performative stuff. They hate virtue signaling. I hate it, but also make sure that everybody it's like those fucking videos out of the states of people going down at the ends of their driveways at the start of the day doing the Pledge of Allegiance. They are posting cringe. This is the goofiest shit. Oh it's so bad. It's like... It's so bad. Those are extremely bad to me. So um so this is very much the same deal. It's sure, those are extremely bad to me. So this is very much the same deal.

It's sure you could commemorate fallen soldiers from many imperial wars. But it doesn't count unless Doris across the street sees you get out there at 6am. And you know, put your hand over your heart and then Start up like a 24 kilobit stream of the last post from your phone And then you're gonna get extremely wasted and make a fool of yourself like on any other regular Anzac day to Respect the troops now. I know what you're saying you're saying you're saying sure I would hold up a candle But that's hard, and it's dangerous. Frankly, I don't feel qualified. I haven't done the appropriate training.

I've only got two hands. I have been saying this. You know, scared of fire. Very scared of fire. Mmm, all of these things. So, according to News. To make this easier we have created a virtual candle for you to turn your phone into a shining

illumination along with other relevant Anzac day content the traditional ode in the last post. I'm sorry but this entire for like last five minutes I've just imagined a child like getting their iPad. It's it's Dawn. They've walked out Doris's across the road watching. I've walked out into the driveway. They've opened up the iPad. They've gone to hold to open up the tiny candle app and hold it up above their head, but they've accidentally hit the fart app. And they hold the iPad above the head just sputtering farts. And then they're the person who gets canceled.

Mom's try to switch it off. That's right. Dad tries to drown it out by opening his iPad, but it's blasting the porno that he was watching last night before he nutted and then just like immediately put it to sleep and passed out. Oh no, everyone's gonna know what kind of big booty pogs dad has been nutting off to. It's gonna beto be chaos basically. Now they've also been very generous not only by developing this clearly very useful app. I like it

because it reminds me of like remember when smartphones were like first a thing and they were like stupid apps. Yeah? And they were like... That's stupid apps? Yeah, and they were just like, there's apps, like the lightsaber app. Where you... Yeah, you wave your phone around and goes, whoa, this is that to me. It's just like, hey, it's a candle app and it turns your phone and it would be candles. Like, we're not, like candles. We're not, we don't like not have candles or electricity or like like what I don't understand. It makes no sense

also who on your street is going to see your fucking your candle app? You're going to hold it face out to them. They've, helpfully they've included a number of illustrations. Oh okay. In the article. So they've included a number of illustrations. Oh, okay. In the article. So, they've included a whole bunch of pictures of like children and adults somberly holding smartphones with the candle app on them. You're just holding their can't, okay. And they're looking really seriously like you're remembering something. Oh, you have to.

You have to look so somber for like just the morning of Anzac Day before you go to the part. I don't want to be smiling when someone takes that photo. It's so annoying that like black mirror is passe now because. Because it's like, like, are you saying that we're living in a black mirror episode? No, it's just, just a child like cradling their iPad and thinking about like people that died in a war that they, like, is so far away now. It's impossible for them to even imagine the amount of time between them and the last

good war, quote unquote, that we were in. Because we don't remember, the bad ones in the last like 50 years or so. It's always the, you know, the end-sex. What was that even about? No one knows. No one knows. That's the thing. I've listened to about 14 hours of Dan Carlin talk about World War-Ward. I still have no fucking idea what happened.

Franz Verden and Thrill Bomb and absolutely merked Franz Kafka. And then... That's right. Don't write into us to date. Poland invaded. I feel like somehow you're thinking World War II at that time. So nobody knows. That's the thing. You go Slovakia.

Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovakia. No, I know about World War I. Don't write in. But yeah, like it's... It is a, it is black mirror shit. It's, it's gross, it's weird. Don't, don't give your child a tiny, a tiny candle on a screen to cradle and hold near their heart. That's weird. That's, that's, that's...

Down at the end of the driveway at 6 a.m. Why can't you just gather, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the driveway at 6 a.m. like why can't you just why can't you just gather you like this is if you even want to do this shit. Learn to play the trumpet or fuck off. Do what everyone else does and just sit there silently on a on a zoom meeting at 11 a.m. And they can't see where your phone is so you can look down at it. It's fine. No one can see it. anybody else ever worked the office where at 11 a.m. they would like come on over the fire system? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And no one cares. Everybody shush. Shush for the soldiers. So, you know, they've made this available and they say. You can use these light up the dawn, you can use these light up the dawn, you can use these to light up the dawn or for moments of quiet personal reflection

across the weekend. So you can use it more than once. Yeah, that's handy. Maybe later on if you're sitting around a night and you're like still pretty broken up about the wars. Several wars. Or if you're looking for something, kind like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to light. to light. to light. to light. to light. to light. You can't. You can't. You can't to light, you can't to light, you can't to light, you can't to light. You can to to to light. You can to light. You can to light. You can to light. You to. You to light. You to light. You to to. You to to light. You to to to to light. You to to to to to to to light. the the the to light. the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. I. I toe. I toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. if you're looking for something, behind the couch cushions or whatever and you need slightly less light than your iPad normally puts out. Take this down a notch.

They say it's free and really simple to get and use. Here's how. Go to this mastheads app or website, desktop or mobile. If you're reading this online, just click here. I feel like you should be able to tell if I'm reading this from your newspaper or your website. Yeah, what's the other option? Because there's only two places you're making the information available. Are they, are they taking like online stories and printing? What, does it, does it say click here in the news??? the news? the news? th? th? th.? th.? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. If thi. If thi. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. If th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the their, their to to their, to their, their their to their their their to to to to their to to thi. thi. thi. Are they, are they taking like online stories and printing? What, does it, does it say click here in the newspaper? Is that what's happening? Yeah, like you, you click on the text with your finger, but because you're not online, nothing happens. And that's how you know, because you look at it and you say, oh, well, it must be offline.

Fuck me. I wonder this industry is dying. Look for the light up the dawn banner, then click on it. So good. Oh. I'm really imagining that they are explaining this for the target audience of like 70-year-old news subscribers. Yeah, my grandma, bless her heart, it's going to get this up. So many more steps to this. You will land on the light up the dawn landing screen, which has tabs saying virtual

candle, the ode, and the last post. Next step. Click on the relevant tab to experience each part of the content. The virtual candle is exactly that. A calming... Hang on, by experience, do they mean look at content? Well no, no, because that's not, I think, you know, you should know. In these days, you don't look at content, you're having...

You might think that you're reading an article, but you're actually having a user experience. It has a lot to do with how much you enjoy the ads. Then you can get the, you know, the ode, the last post, has a sick audio recording of the bugle slash trumpet salute and images of Australian service personnel across the decades from the Boer War to Afghanistan. All those cool wars we've done. The Boogley. I love the Boogley. Remember the Boor War? Not really. No. I just uh... No. No. No, do we fight that for South Africans? I, I assume so.

Probably, pro-South Africa in that one. Again, don't write in. Don't write in about it. We simply don't care. I'm pretty certain ancient history begins at like 1913. Yeah. Everything before that date is as distant as the Romans. That's about right. And then lastly they say do use it as often as you like. How often am I, is this a tracking app? Why are they encouraging me to use this so often?

Please use it constantly. Use it on every day that is an Anzac Day, but definitely use it on Anzac Day. You just kind of think about the soldiers, the troops. The Anzacs. Is that, like, are there ads in this? Is that the point of this? Is it like, are there must be? Say, lest we forget at the McDonald the McDonald the McDonald their their their their their their their their their their their their their you they they they th. Are th. Are th. Are th. Are th. Are th. Are th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th.the point of this? Do you, is it like, say, lest we forget at the McDonald's counter for 30 cents off a hash brown or something? That'd be so good. Because that's the kind of shit we're doing right now, right? Like, that's where this is leading. Just, I still can't get past the idea with all this that like, yeah, that the only worth that any form of a remembrance has comes, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th only worth that any form of remembrance has comes from having someone else see you do it.

Like that unless somebody else sees you do it, and also unless you perform the specific rituals that we've decided on, that it means nothing, basically. You're gonna take the boxes, you've got gotta go down and look at each of the tabs. Yeah, like it reminds me a lot. People were digging up shit, I guess, like starting old fights again about Bernie in 2016, how he didn't wear a flag pin at the debates. Oh my God. Do you remember this? Imagine caring! Imagine caring!

Holy shit! Like, this is a joke. And like you said, Andrew, like it's entirely performative. The whole thing, it's so that other people can see it, so that everyone can like, you know, stand together and perform this differently, right? Like if you want to sit there silently for a minute and think about shit, you know, that, I remember that's what we did, like, as kids, right? And it's just gone off this cliff. It's just like, become this bizarre.

Oh, it's all fake. I feel like we've probably talked about this for the past two, three years or however long we've been doing this during Anzac Day, but it's just the exact people that are doing this performative shit are exactly the people that are just getting drunk and vomiting in a pub later on. They don't actually care. Or the people like, you know, the News Court papers who are actively going to bat for us to go to faugh war war war war war war war the the their their.. And. And their their their their their their their. And, their their their their their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's that's that's that's that's that's that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it. It's, it. It's, it, it. It, it, the the the the the the the th is, thi, that, thi, that, that's that's that's just just just just just just just that's all all that's just just just just just that's all all all that's just just just just just that's all all all all that's just just just, that's the go to fucking war. Oh yeah, they love it. Live for it. And they love Nazis. I love the Nazis. Oh dear. Oh dear. Good stuff.

Good to see Australia is the same as it has been. Carrying out a vital role of... I love that we kind of get our training wheels on and we get our horrible little, tiny little bike and we try and like ride alongside America who is just fucking firing 4th of July fireworks into the air, into windows, into the storm drains or whatever and we're just like, we can play too on our, you know, dinky little racism machine. And then we're trying about how Americans are so stupid with their patriotism. And we're trying so hard. We're trying so hard to do it.

And it's just goofy shit. And we can just get looped in, you know. Wouldn't that be great? th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wouldn't that be great? We have a... Hey, let's forgive people for some war crimes. We have a problematic relationship with America. And speaking of problematic relationships, I read an article on a mill magazine this week that just made my brain start to slowly cook in my head. And look, I know, it's what they want. They want you to read the the war. We to. We to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get some more more more more more to get some more to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the war the war the war the war the war the war the war the war the war their war their war their war their war their war their war their war their their to their to their to to their that just made my brain start to slowly cook in my head. And look, I know this is what they want. They want you to read the article. And they want you to go, what the fuck? And every now and then, I'm going to do it.

Now I haven't clicked on this one. I know what the article is, but I did not click on it. Me either. So we're only given them one click, that's good. That's right, there's one click, that's one third per podcast. It's because I don't want my brain to cook, but you're going to cook it anyway. Let me cook it for you, come on. I was just, I was like immediately perplexed by this article because it's one of these, one of these pieces where it's my favorite kind of that somebody writes, which is where they have clearly formulated like the thesis of the thing they want to write, and

then said about trying to assemble enough thoughts to prove the point, as opposed to saying, here let me lay out these various pieces of evidence or whatever it might be and I will build this case and then present you with you know my conclusion. They've just started with the conclusion instead and said all right time to reverse engineer this bad boy so this article is entitled to why won't woke boys pay for sex? Sounds so good. So good. By Sessie Blanchard. Bernie Bros.

Male feminists and good guy liberals all support sex work, but for some reason, they aren't paying girls like me for sex. Good, good noise that was sex. Good noise though, is it? Good Lord. Four months before Violet, a 25-year-old transsexual with dullish cheekbones and a primary colour wardrobe moved to Brooklyn, she toyed with the idea of holding, quote, a farewell tour in her lifelong home of Portland, Oregon. Her approach to putting a bow on her 20-plus years in a city mocked for its liberal leanings was to collide her two disparate worlds.

Her friend's circle of jewel puffing mulleted Bernie Bros with her recent professional for the foray into sucking cock for cash. Now all these things are fine. Yeah. We're all fine so far. Yeah. Okay. Okay, like, okay. I mean you're trying to write like it's a Chuck Palanik book but continue. But other than that. Chuck Polarnik? Other than that, it's all fine so

so far. Just throwing in a really you know like controversial phrase at the end. I'm I'm enjoying the, I'm enjoying the pronunciation. I've always tortured the hell out of it. Never heard it set out loud so I'm just gonna continue. No, I'm, look, I'm, as far as I know, that's correct. Yeah. So, quote, what if I put it out there that I'm available as a sex worker for people I know for highly discounted rates? My God, what a nightmare. Violet, now a good friend of mine, recently tells me over Face time, recalling the logic behind her, quote, maniac idea.

She admits it was both a stab at giving her friends a, quote, last chance to fuck, while also raking in as much money as she could before she hit the big apple. Violet took to Instagram stories to vibe check these guys, quote, if you're someone who supports sex work at an intellectual level, would you ever hire a sex worker yourself? She wrote. She assumed that her peers, millennial Zuma cusps with art degrees and hard-ons for progressive politics would be prime clients. After all, as youngish liberals, they seemed to overwhelmingly support sex workers in the

decriminalization of their profession. And they were right in line with those of others in their demographic categories. Now I'm, it's already falling apart for me. We've started with my one friend that I know asked her social circle if they would like to fuck her for money before she moved out of town. She didn't get enough takers, and this is bad. We've then immediately gone from that to just generally asking, like people, do you support the, like, generally saying, do you support the decriminalization of sex work, and the legalization of sex work?

Um, and like if, if you do, then you should be fucking sex workers? Like, I feel like the two- I've definitely seen this take on Twitter, so I know it's not made up. So according to a January survey by data for progress more than half of American men, 58% and about two-thirds of 20-something of all genders, are down with the New Zealand model which removes criminal penalties for selling and paying for sex. More than three-quarters of very liberal folks also claim to throw their support behind it. Totally fine. That's good. We're all on board with that. Despite stereotypes types of John's being the toaaaa toatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatative thatatatatatatatatatuuu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thatu, thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. thei. thei. thei. thei. to to to thei. the. thi. thi. thi. We're all on board with that.

Despite stereotypes of Johns being unattractive, older men, some research shows the clients of sex when they're young, hot, and in their 20s, despite having more opportunities for sex than their more aged counterparts. In two different studies, three quarters of arrested johns and slightly less than half of online clients using sex work review websites first paid for a sex worker when they were between the ages of 18 and 29. In other words, the number suggests that more of Violet's followers should have been down with paid sex. But that's not what happened. That's not what the... No. No. No. No. That's not what the data suggests. That's up that completely infuriated me about this was like,

just grabbing statistics from different studies. Yeah, hey, all of this stuff supports the point that I'm not making. And so, uh, but then why when I... Well, to start off we've got, hey, a lot of young progressive men support the decriminalization of sex work. Like, okay. Second thing is, some research shows that clients of sex when they're young. And then two other studies show that three quarters of people who were arrested paying for sex.

First paid for a sex worker when I was between the ages of 1829. Therefore all my friends should have paid to fuck me? Look, journalism's hard. I know that when I've had to write an article that has to be well researched, it's difficult. And you might be tempted to simply put in statistics that you've read and think that they support your point. But in this case, I don't think that they do. Either do I.

In other words, the numbers suggest a more of violence followers should have been down with paid sex. That's not what happened. The woke guys in her social circle who responded weren't bringing the same kind of hurrah they had for the idea of standing in solidarity with sex workers, and exactly none of them offered to cough up cash. That left her confused. If these young dudes were politically rooting for sex workers and are in the period of their lives when they're most likely to first see one, why weren't they seizing on mass the opportunity for one of Violet's bargain-bin

blowjobs or those of their friendly neighborhood sex worker for that matter? Wow. Wow. thing to think of doing and then do and then contact a magazine to have written about. This is a very strange series of ideas. It is the writer's roommate. They've talked about it for too long, convinced themselves that an injustice has been done. And she said let me pitch this bad boy. But um but the problem for me with all of this, you know, she says that the people who messaged her,

who like DM to her, had pragmatic excuses, like, I don't have the money, I don't want sex that bad, I can get pussy without paying for it. None of which surprises sex therapist and sex work researcher Christine Milrod. They're young, they're millennials or zoomers and they don't need to pay for sex work because they can just go on an app, she says. When I ask them for my own research, they respond because I don't have to. Okay. Now that A seems like number one, the logical conclusion here, but separate to that and really

most importantly is the overarching central point of all of this is the conflation of the two ideas that supporting sex workers in their right to do their work, their right to bodily autonomy, their right to safety in howir work, their right to bodily autonomy, their right to safety in how they conduct that business, their right to the criminalization and legalization of that industry is not a one-to-one thing with, therefore, you should not only want to, but be actively out having sex with sex workers and paying the money, because that's the only way to demonstrate that you support that? Why do you bring these things to make me so angry?

Because I got angry and now I got to inflict it on somebody else. I just, I don't know, I hate having to say this, but any kind of leftism that implies that you are obligated to have sex with another person is not really leftist on any level. It's not good. You support the decriminalization of drug possession. You won't possess these drugs. Oh boy.

Not that that's the same thing at all. I just... Look, not all of our friends are Buntavista patrons. We're not going to pressure them. It's their choice. Oh, you say you support me. And yet, I don't see you in the Discord. Interesting. I don't see you in the Discord.

Mm-hmm. And then it just goes even further off a cliff. It says, but it's more than that. It's more than simply not actually having to pay for sex work. Yeah, like the author goes into a bit about the, I guess, the stereotype of people who pay for sex work being, you know, old, ugly guys who couldn't have sex with anybody anyway or whatever, saying, you know, that's not really true. And as I've said on this show before, I, I think that I was, like, you know, well, number one, when I was a teenager, that was A, decades ago. I, I, I think that I was, like, you know, well, number one, when I was very young, when I was a teenager,

that was a, decades ago. It was legitimately decades ago, and like all 18-year-olds, big fucking idiot with no idea about anything in the world. And I was just always like, why would anyone ever pay for sex? Isn't that crazy? And all sorts of other stupid opinions to go along with it. And it's only as I've gotten older that I've gone, oh it turns out that there's actually a whole host of reasons that people pay for sex working, ranging from you know disabilities, like inability to socially

communicate, just being very lonely, maybe you are in a profession that requires... Being horny. Being mad horny. Maybe you're in a profession that requires you to travel all the time and it's really hard to form any kind of relationship with someone and you still want to fuck. All these things are completely fine. But we're getting a little more mixed up here. As two trans girls who keep leftist male hoodies in their company and turn tricks as a side hustle, Violet and I have both observed that our peers can't get their politics straight.

For one, these guys support decriminalizing sex because they're feminists. But they also seem to not pay for sex for sex for sex their their their their their their their their their their to their to their to to their to also seem to not pay for sex because they're feminists. To that end, one particular response, and to that end, a single anecdote should put this to bed. One particular response to violence Instagram story by a decriminalization supporter stuck out to me. It said something to the effect of, my mother taught me to respect women, to respect women. But isn't respecting women paying them to do their job? What the fuck is going on?

What is happening? If you know a woman who runs a carpet cleaning business and there's no carpet in your house, but you are not paying that woman to run the carpet cleaner all over the house, then I don't think you're a feminist. No, if you support carpet cleaners, then what you need to be doing at all times is times is times is tiiiiiiiiii the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. too. too. too. tof. too. tof. to to to to to to the run the carpet cleaner all over the house, then I don't think you're a feminist. No, if you support carpet cleaners, then what you need to be doing at all times is tearing up all of the carpet in your house and taking it to your friend's place and asking them to clean your carpet for money at all hours of the night, because you never know when they might be making some sort of grand social point in a magazine. Mm-hmm. About you not fucking getting your carpet cleaned.

My goodness. Get your carpet cleaned! It seems that some of these men's theoretical recognition of women's ability to make decisions to their own body ends up being overridden by skepticism of a sex worker's ability to consent. Hang on, so isn't this like... If you're friends, right, and you want to fuck your friends, that's fine. That's A-OK. But aren't they like trying to establish some sort of like power hierarchy of the way that this should go? Like it's very, it's very odd to me. Like, people fuck their friends all the time.

That's A-O-K. But like, to expect someone to perfectly navigate what is already semi-troubled waters of having sex with your friends, which is, you know, mixing a whole bunch of stuff together, and then introducing both money and politics at the same time to it and expecting them to come out with the exact answer that you came out with, it's like I don't know what they want. I don't know what they want. Sounds like something a woke male leftist would say. You know what the other, I guess the other aspect to this for me is like, you know,

talking, like I was just talking about all the reasons that it's perfectly legitimate to go to a sex worker, and you don't have to have a reason at all. How about that? But, like, from the side of like reasons that you might not want to see a sex worker Apart from like you were saying theo being asked by your your friend if you would like to fuck them at a discounted rate My answer is not the bargain they think they're willing. It's gonna be no thank you. I think I'm I'm always asking everybody on the podcast in the discord and not getting any of it's gonna be. And the thinne. It's the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi I think. I'm always asking everybody on the podcast in the discord and not getting any traction whatsoever. It's no good and I'm starting to worry whether they're real leftists or not. But like this is the thing let's get into me and my wife sex talk. Hmm. Again.

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people have that whole thing of like terrible terrible relationships where like one partner is like pestering the other to have sex with them and it turns into a thing of like all right I'll give in and have sex with you so you'll stop bothering me about it all that kind of thing. Anything where it's like if I do this then I'll get something that I want th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the tho thi. thi. thi. thi. tho- tho-I tho-I tho-I tho tho tho thi. th thi. th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. theeeeeeat thi. thi. thi. theeeeat thi. thi. thoooooooooooooo. the all that kind of thing. Anything where it's like, if I do this, then I'll get something that I want, which is you shutting the fuck up, leaving me alone or anything like that. But there's all different ways in which sex can become transactional,

either explicitly or otherwise. And most of those to me are a massive turn off. Generally speaking, the thing that I find attractive is the idea that me and the person having sex with are doing it because we both want to. And that's about it. Oh, it's Andrews' turn-ons and turn-offs talk. It's a sealed section. The virtual candle light. But yeah, like you, you get what I mean? Like, I don't think that it's unreasonable to say, just personally, the whole sex worker dynamic is uncomfortable to me,

and I'm not really interested in it. Yes. It's also insane to think that anything that is about someone wanting to have sex with someone else is political. Yeah, you know what I'd love to do before I have sex is work my way through my own flow chart of my politics to just like, so it is sex work, so it's good, but I will have to pay for it. Oh, but I'm a feminist. And then, and like, I don't know. Yep. That's it. That's it. That's it. My friend and then and like I don't know if it's yep that's it. I don't like I don't like bad article. It's an extremely bad article like I said solely because, not solely because but the primary reason is that the the central contention

of the article is if you support somebody's cause or ifention of the article is, if you support somebody's cause, or if you support the decriminalization of something or anything like that, you effectively have to be willing to engage in that activity in order to prove that you support it sufficiently. You have to have sex with me or you should feel guilty. That's always good. So if you're not willing to pay for sex, specifically me, your friend. Might you call this, say, a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, or the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Or their. Or their. Or, or their their. Or, or if you support their. Or. Or. Or. Or, or if you support their their their their their. Or, or their their. Or, or their. Or, or their. Or, or their. Or, or their. Or, or their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the their. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. always good. That seems to be... So if you're not willing to pay for sex, specifically me, your friend. Might you call this a bone of contention?

Oh my goodness. So all kinds of funny relationships stuff out there, and you know, we like to talk about relationships here on the show, specifically. We sure do. specifically in the segment that we call paging Dr. Lucy. Oh yeah. It was so wet out of my ears tonight. So wet. So wet. So wet. So wet. So um, we were talking on the very last episode about a little relationship fight. And it was about beans. Beans.

Beans. Beans. Someone took my beans, buried them. Go back and listen to that one if you must. But you know, we said as we usually do, if you got a relationship issue, you need us to solve. Let us know. We received a letter in the mail bag. Allow me to read it to use. Hey guys, I was wondering if I was in the right in this fight I had with someone. This is exactly how you should be starting any letter to this podcast. Yeah, absolutely.

You need to frame it as a, and like down because to pretend it isn't as madness. I'll go one further and say, yes you can write as a thing to say, I had a fight with someone who was right or was I in the wrong or whatever. You can do that and be a pussy or you can do what this guy did and say, I was right when I had this fight with someone, wasn't I? Which is what you want. Okay, I was wondering if I was in the right in this fight I had with someone I was seeing, we're not together anymore, not because of this fight though, I don't think. Anyways, it started when we were watching a movie, doesn't say what movie it was, I would

like to know, and I got up to refill my trusty nightstand water cup and I refilled it like I usually do in the bathroom sink across the hall rather than go all the way down to the kitchen tap. She started berating me and telling me it was gross to drink water from a bathroom sink because she said it was dirtier water than kitchen sink water. Okay, you storing points up here Lucy? I got some feelings already but continue. Okay.

I said, that's stupid. You brush your teeth with bathroom water and wash your hands with it and it's the same water that comes out of other sinks. Very valid point. But then she said the poop germs and fart particles and whatever else in the bathroom is around in the air and on the surfaces creeps on the pipes and she tried to use some answer from Quora as evidence that bathroom water is less safe than kitchen water. She immediately loses like a critical hit from opening quora on your phone. That's stupid, right? Anyways, I told her it was dumb and if anything, the kitchen sink would probably be dirtier

from the spray of the garbage disposal onto the faucet. Anyway, I feel like I should have won that argument. We're both seniors in college and both biomagers. I study ecology and evolutionary biology, big fan of Nature Corner, but she is a molecular biology major and about to start grad school for pharmacy, so I feel like she should know better, right? Anyway, we're not dating anymore, but we are still friends and this is still a point of conflict and has come back up multiple times. Oh amazing. Thanks for the help y'all with love from the states, Kyle. Oh my goodness.

Let's go Lucy. All right. Now let's let's start with the central contention here. I don't want to talk about the germs because I'm no molecular biologist. But I think... Well, come on, no, no, no, look, hit me with, what's your take? I just think, I think the bathroom water tasks better than the kitchen water. It's because you're surrounded by all that porcelain.

Maybe that's it. I feel like it's good. I will always always always always always always always always always always always always but I've definitely had this argument with a partner before, for sure, about that you shouldn't drink water from the bathroom faucet, and I disagree. It's the same water. Does it make a difference to you if the toilet is in the bathroom or if it's in a separate room? Maybe if it's really close. Because I did hear something about out like when you flush that there is a certain amount of, you know, splashback. It's true. Also important to note that in America, the toilet is always in the bathroom. That's a nation of...

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I think that Kyle has damaged his case with his repeated ad hominums. He has told her that stupid, told her it was dumb. That's true. Left us always resort to ad hom when they know that they're wrong. It's true. It's true. And I will say, you're not gonna get in, if you are in a traditional hetero relationship like Kyle seemed to be at the time, let me just tell you, you're not gonna get anywhere by calling that lady stupid.

That is not going to get her to agree. No, you've got to go in Ben Shapiro style with facts and logic and quorum quotes which is what she tried to do when she broke out Quora but that's just a despicable move that's absolutely terrible and Lucy's a hundred percent right there is a there is a certain something to toilet water not toilet water not toilet water about toilet water about bathroom water about about bathroom water it that the superior drop I would say that tho the the superio drop I would and I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho th tho tho- tho- tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe thoe toilet water. About bathroom water. It does taste better. It's the superior drop, I would say. And I would say that Kyle is 100% in the right, despite having a name that would normally resign him to being a 311 fan. That's right. He's also right about the garbage disposal in the American sink. Disgusting stuff. Yeah, we'd, like, you can just put your garbage straight in the garbage. th. th. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. Do. It. It. Do. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the t. t. t. t. t. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the American sink. Disgusting stuff. Yeah, we, like, you can just put your garbage straight in the garbage guys. I don't know if, do they know this? Well, I actually love the

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can make 85 cents from referrals out of this tweet. But the gadget was like a plastic, a little plastic container type thing that you sit on the corner of your sink, assuming that your sink is a square shape. And the footage was someone just like dumping their bowl of food onto there. So like, you know, dumping like half a bowl of ramen into it. Right. And the liquid comes out of the bottom and all the stuff is kept in the thing. So it's a colander. Yeah, they're like you just scrape all your stuff into this food colander. And then you can the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid the liquid the liquid the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid comes the liquid comes. the liquid comes. the liquid comes. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the liquid. the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the thing. So it's a colander. Yeah, they're like you just scrape all your stuff into this food colander and then you can wash the dishes easily and throw out all the food. I'm like, what if you just threw the fucking food out at the start? What if you just took the food off the plate? How are you going to throw the food out? It's got liquid. the things. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no problem. No no problem. No no problem. No no problem. Not not a not a th. Not not a problem th. Not not a problem th. Not not a problem th th th th th th that. No problem. No problem. No problem. No. No problem. No. No. No. No. No problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem th. Not a th. Not a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. No problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Not. Not. Not not a th th th th th th th th th. Not th th th th th. No problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem problem that that that that that that the that the the that that that the the thoooooooooooooooooooo the the the the the th many too many gadgets to solve Either way point being nothing wrong with drinking and water from your bathroom sink

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just start slugging down that cool bathroom water. What am I going to do? I'm going to go to the kitchen. I'm going to get a cup. Unbelievable. How much shit do they think is flying around in the bathroom, honestly. How much they think is flying around in the pipes?

I mean it's probably on go in the pipes. This is ridiculous she hasn't got a land to sit leg to stand on. And you also I mean the the most fundamental point here is does she think that water is coming from somewhere else? Yeah that that is fundamentally not like I'm sure if you pushed her on it she would say no no it comes from all the same same theme but fundamentally there is some some like delusion that the pipes are dukey pipes and they come from the dukey place. I was tainted with toilet. It's near it's and it's a different pipe the outpipe is a different one. That's where all your turds go.

Kyle, you win. You do. Yeah. And maybe you're right to dump her. Maybe she should take you back. I don't know. Anyway, look, you can, you absolutely have our permission, Kyle to show her this and just say three of the four hosts of very mildly popular Australian podcast Wundervista agree they are not dukey pipes you're wrong it's fine to drink out of it. And just make sure that she doesn't go back into the back catalog to the bonus episode where the the same three out of the four hosts said it was okay to not wash your hands sometimes. Shh.

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or two ago I said, hey everybody give us a whole bunch of letters and like people. People read a whole bunch of them in and then I just did not read any of them. I'm very sorry everybody. Hello all, apologies if you've covered this on a previous episode, but I was wondering if Buntavista have released an official statement regarding the hip-hop group Hilltop Hoods, specifically whether they are good or not. I had their 2003 album, The Calling, which I recall having a track that was rude to George W. Bush. I like the album quite a lot, but have given the amount of time that's passed, I thought

I should get a second opinion from Will. Sent from my iPhone. Thank you for sending this from your iPhone. So do we have to explain what the Hilltop Hoods are first? I think we do for international listeners for sure. So for international listeners, Hilltop Hoods are the default hip-hop band that we have. We all got together approximately 15 years ago and said, Hilltop Hood's, good enough.

I don't even know how to describe Australian hip-hop because it's not like white hip-hop, it's not like Maclemor or whatever. No, it's a whole genre. It's got a very, there's a very specific kind of genre to it. Lucy's 100% right. It's, it's quite quite quite. It's, it's, it's quite. It's quite. It's quite. It's quite. It's quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily heavily. It's quite a very, there's a very specific kind of genre to it. Lucy's 100% right. It's quite heavily produced at times, but in a way that comes off as quite clunky a lot of the time. Usually leads into, or doesn't lead into, but crashes into a chorus that has a female singer. And then back into the verses. I don't know. I will

describe it as. Australian hip-hop generally speaking, very broadly speaking, is it's all stuck in a particular era of hip-hop production which I would probably say is like 1990s type type sample breakbeats and and you know chopped up samples and stuff we kind of never move past that point. And it is probably worth while pointing out that we are referring to the hip-hop that's played on Triple J because this is specifically a question about hilltop woods. So the the secondary part of this of course is that because I'm going to make some wild statements here and people, somebody will not be happy about it.

But because hip hop in the states has been overwhelmingly and primarily a black form of entertainment and has been very culturally rooted in that. It means that the same things cannot be the topics of songs for Australian hip hop. So it means that a lot of Australian hip hop is focused on either the four pillars of hip hop, beboying, breaking, graffiti, turn tableism, the rapping, etc. And of course, partying. And if you love to party, if you love to drink a lot of pre-mix Jim Beeman Cokes, the hilltop hoods are the act for you. So good or not? No. No. That's a strong no from me. I would say objectively not good, but I certainly enjoy some Hilltop Hood's songs.

I would be caused great physical pain by being forced to sit and listen to an album of Hiltop Hood's, let alone a song. Oh, I would love it. This is probably a nostalgia thing though. I feel like objectively not good. Yeah, in the same way that, I think there's there's objectively there's there's objectively there's thi thi thi thi thi th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi objectively thi thi objectively thi thi objectively thi objectively thi objectively thi objectively thi objectively thi objectively tho thi objectively not objectively thi tho- tho- that that that that that's objectively not objectively not objectively not objectively not objectively not that's not that's not that's not that's not good that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a thi thi tho thoo thooooooo-soo' tho-a good good thooo-a good tho-a thooooo' thoothing, though. I feel like objectively probably not good. Yeah, in the same way that like, I think there's a lot of stuff like that where if you had, and maybe this is what prompted Will to write this in the first place, is that if you had an affection for something when you were younger, it is a lot easier, you know, to have fun memories of it, all that sort of thing. For example, I recently listened to a real big fish album. And it was amazing, and you loved every second of it.

I was just like, great stuff, thank you. And then I went about my day, I wasn't like, what the fuck am I doing? What is this? It sounds terrible. Why is there a trumpet? Instead, I just enjoyed myself. What is this? It sounds terrible. Why is there a trumpet? You know? Instead, I just enjoyed myself and I moved on. I'm pro-Hill Top Hood, so I'm gonna put it on record. And also, I think I'll say, they actually seem like cool guys. Unless they've got some horrible dark history like sticky fingers, in which case

in which case we're right not to like them. Try listening to AB Original. A.B. Original. Oh, I love A.B. Original. Much better than Hilltop Woods. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Listen to that instead. And that's it. That's it for us.

Thank you for joining us. We, I think, basically going to spend the evening sitting around and perusing photos of Goofy and Pluto side by side. I'm trying to put on some health up hoods after this. Cosby sweater for sure. God damn it. I mean, they got Goofy. He's standing there right next to Pluto. Pluto's acting like a dog. But Goofy, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's thi thi thi thogging in thin thin' thi thi thin' thu thu tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to sping th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's going going going going going going going going th. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to thin. to thin. to thin. thin. thin. to thin. thin. thin. thi thi thin. thi he's standing there right next to Pluto Pluto's acting like a dog but goofy is tugging at his collar because he's wearing a shirt and a blazer Oh shit what is what is it what is goofy which one's the one that can stand up goofy goofy? What does goofy think of collars or leashes he likes it he loves it he will never take it up He loves it. He will never take it up. Does Goofy wear a leash?

He sure does. It's by choice though. Just not out, not out and about. My goodness. So don't forget to download your virtual candle app. Because otherwise you're going to be forced to get an actual candle. We don't want that. Down with candles, I guess. This week's crime pass, you can seize any shipments of candles coming into the country.

Melt them all down, turn them into something else more useful than a candle because we have virtual candle now. And we no longer need physical candle. That's right. Yeah. Thanks to stopping by everybody and we will see you next week. Bye-bye. Bye. you