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Episode Date: February 26, 2023

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Hello and welcome to Buntavista. This is a bonus episode. I am Ben and I am here in the alternate universe where JFK used gun-kata techniques to survive his assassination. It's the year 2023 and we all live in hovering glass ziggarats that glides silently and majestically over a pristine wild earth. Having reversed the man-made effects on the earth's climate, life continues below with the richness, health and diversity that did before our intervention. Wealth inequality is destroyed, money is abolished, money is abolished, the goods and services are free to all

to all who need and want them. No one is coerced into unpleasant or boring work. Crimes are not so much punished as tended to. The wrongs made right where possible, and the perpetrator is given what they need to put them back on a more harmonious path. Unfortunately, everyone is racist. With me as the racism, Pope, it's Lucy. Hi, Lucy. Hi. Aren't you having a good time? I love it here. Isn't everything perfect for me and you? It's so ideal for us. Yeah. The white race. That's right. Yeah. You're sort of the the Pope of racism. I am the Pope of racism which is a new system that we found it here. Yeah I think in this future, sorry this alternate present, that the state religion is racism but it's sort of like Catholic racism. Yeah. Which is like the good kind, right?

Because that's what you're looking for. Before you're saying that in character as the racism pope or that's your belief? You'll never know. You'll never know. Yeah, I sort of ran out of steam towards the end of this intro, so I thought if I just finish it with the racism pope, maybe, we could flesh out what thi, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's th.. That's thi, that's thi, that's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's what's thr-a,'ve been reading Thomas Moore in the Utopia, which is very similar to this in that he like talks about this ideal society and you're like, yeah, yeah, that's great. We shouldn't have prisons, like we shouldn't punish people. And then you just like get to the, like, get deeper into it and it's like, oh, he also like hates women and because he's a Catholic, he th th th th th th th th th th th th, he thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi he's a Catholic he thinks that like premarital sex should make you a like a slave.

Well I have no crime because that's horrible but... Until that point and it's like, oh you're like a weird Catholic okay. Yeah. Are all Catholics weird? Let's dedicate this entire episode to that. People love that. Yeah, they... Yeah, famously that one specifically. And we don't need to litigate that. that that that that that to that to to that to that. to to to that. to to to to that. Well to to that. Well to to that. Well to to that. Well to to to to to to to to to that. Well, to that. Well that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that. that that. I that. that. that. that. that. that. that. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that. that. that. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the Yeah, they, yeah, famously that one specifically. And we don't need to litigate that. Hey, what are those glass cigarettes hovering over? That's right, baby. It's nature. It's time of course for Nature Corner. Country Roaul's, take me home to the place. I belong, bultaneer takes a sown, nation corner, rubber crab, sniffed my dear.

Now this story has been sitting in our notes for, it's been the very last story in the notes document I think for about a month. And we've never gotten around to it and I keep going to remove it. But then I think no. No, I quite like this. This comes to us from NPR. Humans can correctly identify several gestures made by apes, a new study shows. It seems kind of backwards. It's like look what humans can do.

It does, it seems somewhat intuitive, which I guess is the point of the study, but yeah, it does seem like... That I would understand a gesture by a lesser being. A 45-year-old man watching a computer screen, why some research is like, good work, Tony. Yeah, well done. You did it. About half of humans can recognize gestures gestures from A, see if it's the only half. That's so good. Imagine that as like one those click bait ads. Only one in two people can tell what this monkey is thinking. Also be cool if that became like the next debate

thing like a fantasia or whatever everyone's like share. One to five how much of an apple can you picture except it's like one to two can you or can you not identify this ape's gesture is this ape angry sad or happy researchers at the University in St Andrews in Scotland showed 5,656 participants videos of chimpanzees and bonobos making 10 of their most frequently used gestures so when the when the chimps and bonobos go to their most frequently used gestures. So when the chimps and bonobos go to do a gesture, it's those ones that come up immediately the top before you start scrolling for a specific one. Yeah, the main gestures.

Yeah, that's a huge study as well. They got so many people. Like I feel like we have seen less significant studies done with like 27 people. Yeah, there's like 30 people with a very poor conclusion, but I'm believing this one, you know. This sounds rigorous. Ten of their most frequently used gestures, including raising their arms, which could signal grooming or hunger, shaking an object which could signal sex, and touching, which could mean could mean climb on my back or give me that food. Okay.

I don't know if this is meant to be a like if these are meant to be complete examples, if like shaking an object only means. As's me horny. Yeah, and nothing else. Or whether touching could only mean, climb on my back or give me that food. It's those two things. Yeah, like tapping another ape on the shoulder. Seems like it could mean a lot of things. Like, I don't know that these researchers really can be sure about what these mean. No, we will never truly know the mind of an ape. We won't. About 2,700 people were shown only videos, while the rest were given additional context information. On average, 57.3% of people who were given

context could correctly identify what the gestures meant, while 52.1% of those who are only shown videos identified the gestures, which was significantly higher than expected, researchers said. Yeah, because you've overestimated how difficult your job is. Yeah. Just being like a random guy, being like, oh you thought identifying ape communication signals was difficult, it's easy for me. It's actually easier for me to do. Never done this before in my life and I aced your test, point Dexter. The only gesture participants largely interpreted incorrectly was the object shake at a failure rate of over 50%. Like fair enough. That's not what my mind goes to when it depends what object

they're shaking. Yeah, you know. You're like shaking a packet of condoms out me. Probably, maybe. All right. what object they're shaking, you know. You're like shaking a packet of condoms every, I'm like, oh yeah, probably, maybe. All right. You're thinking about, I don't know if this is really rigorous because like at this point 50-50 is like, how many gestures could there be and you're just taken a stab? Oh, he's saying it's just like a punt. Maybe. He's beard his teeth and I think he's angry? Oh no, they. th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, thi, maybe thi, thi, maybe thi, maybe thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi's thin, thin, thi's thin, thin, thi, thi, eth and I think he's angry? Oh no, he was happy. Coin toss. Coin toss. Yeah. What these guys need, if the object shake is so ambiguous, is a lamp that you turn on. That's right. Turn on my bonobo lamp in the corner. And they're like, oh no, he's horny. Well, half people know that. The other half are like, oh, I don't know, I think it means that he wants someone to climb on his back.

Oh, sort of. Quote, it remains unknown whether the great ape repertoire itself, it's theats, sensational sentence. It remains unknown whether the great ape repertoire itself is biologically inherited or whether apes, now including humans. That is advertising voice. Apes, now including humans. Share an underlying ability to produce and interpret naturally meaningful signals that are mutually

understandable because of general intelligence and shared body plans and social goals. Oh, shared body plans is in like among a group not okay yeah I'm not a freaky Friday situation or a polyamery situation making my body plan spreadsheet for the resemblance of gestures to the actions that they aim to elicit the study said. Yeah, like when you're shaking an object. Yeah. Maybe we should adopt that one. I mean it is kind of crazy to think that this might be innate that we do have like that seemingly part of our brain still kind of speaks chimpanzee a little bit. Maybe. It's kind of cool. We kind of speaks chimpanzee a little bit.

Maybe. It's kind of cool. We just, you know, get it. Understand their vibe. So the thing they're saying here about how whether the great ape repertoire, again, amazing, whether it's biologically inherited or if it's like just an ability that we have to figure this shit out. What was I think about this the other day?

Oh, I was reading a story about another one of those things where some people thought they found a lost dog and took it in and it turned out to be a coyote, which, fairfully. That's pretty funny. It looked very different. Another one of them happened this week. Most the time it happens when it happens it happens they they they they they they they happens when they they happens when they they they happens when they happens when they they they they happened when they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea but they were talking about how they had to take it to a wildlife rehabilitation center and they put it with an older coyote that had been in the wild so that coyote could teach it how to be a coyote so it would be exception coyote society. The idea that like being a coyote is an oral tradition is very funny. Handing down my coyote traditions through the generations. So we've had what, like a couple hundred thousand years of coyotes teaching the next generation of coyotes how to be coyotes. What if they forgot?

What if we had a whole bunch of... Like, what if we raised all the coyotes? Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's what domestic cats did, although they still have, they've still got cat qualities, huh? They've still got some instinctive behaviors. I just wonder that like, let's say, there's an insured hypothetical that you've taken all the world's remaining coyotes, and then you've taken all of the pups from the litters, and then you've removed them from the elder coyotes, they've all died off.

Will the young, that young generation of new coyotes that have never been taught how to be a coyote have to invent being a coyote from scratch? And make up their whole new system of being a coyote. It could be completely different. Maybe get rid of the generational trauma from their parents, you know, maybe they're improving. Yes, let're healing. Yes, let's break that cycle. Let's break that coyote cycle. Maybe they'd just be wildly different. Maybe they would like, you know. Read books. Maybe they read books.

You never know. Probably, I'm sure the answer is it's just that like 95% of being a coyote is just like... I'm hungry. Yeah, and I'm gonna do it with other coyotes, but if there's a weird coyote, we're all going to attack him. And they figure that out. Isn't that just like being a human? You know? That is so true. Remember, be normal.

Because the rest of the pack will attack you. They will. Yeah. And they might do it on a podcast and they might do it at you by name. Come on. Being a social outcast is one of the most... Nope. It's something you really have to watch out for. Another thing that you have to watch out for is robots. It's time for robot watch. Man, Andrews really good at these.

He's like, he's done it a long time. He has. He has. He has. He has. He has. He's got a good brain for, uh, for like, making things up. Yeah.

And remembering film plots. That is true. Imagine what he could do if he directed all the skills up and remembering film plots. That is true. Imagine what you could do if you directed all skills to the sciences. Imagine. This is a story coming to us from the Daily Montana. Yeah, is that what you would call them? I think that is the demonym of the people of Montana. Montana.

Like to have really awkward demonyms for being from states. They do, huh? I can't think of any others off the top of my head, but they're just, a lot of them are quite difficult to say. Canzans? Is that what they call themselves? Is it? That can't be right. No idea.

From the daily Montana, Bill seeks to ban killer robots in Montana. I'm listening, you know, that seems pretty straightforward good. It's a good headline as well, because you could read it in a way that implies that the killer robots are already in Montana. It's finally... It's time to ban them. I'm sick of this shit. Got around for too long. Too good. The dogs with knife strapped to the heads that have been wandering around the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets around the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets their their thriria thia thia thia' thia' thia' thia' thia' thia' thia' that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that seems that's that seems that's that's that's that's that's that's too long. Had it too good. The dogs with knife strapped to their heads that have been wandering around the streets

terrorizing my family. Enough. Sick of it. Get them out of Butte. Is that a town in Montana? I think so. A bipartisan group of Montana law makers lawmakers wants to be sure no one in the state can use robots affixed with guns, swords, or other weapons to kill people, under a bill that was heard Friday that would establish the quote killer robot attack ban act.

Would you have been able to before? It's just one of those situations where, well, we don't actually have a law or against it? Yeah. What do you want me to do? My hands of trying to address a very specific legal loop poll if like Stabbing someone with a sword is a crime. I'm pretty certain even in Montana But if you tied that sword to the head of one of those Boston dynamics guys and then said hey, can you run over there?

That wouldn't be a crime currently is the law stands? Like it sounds like something like this has happened before like Why are you addressing it? Or is this just someone's particular anxiety? There's like one guy that's the reason they have this rule and he's doing some crazy shit in his garage. He's like, I'm gonna do it. There's no law against it. It's perfectly legal.

Perfectly legal. House Bill 594, Spo-Sense, the House, to to to to to to the House, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the the the thi, tho, tho, tho, sponsored by a representative Kelly Cordham, a Democrat from Bozeman, aims to bar people and businesses from building, possessing, using or selling any lethal autonomous weapon systems in Montana. It would subject anyone who violates the prohibition to up to 20 years in prison and a $50,000 fine. Okay. Fine seems low to me. That's not a high fine. Like you've accidentally started the Black Mirror episode where the world has been taken over by like killer robot dogs and they're just like, oh, 50 grand place.

Okay. Also, if I'm going to prison, I'm probably not going to pay my fine. Yeah, I'll probably be in prison. I won't have any work. I'll be working for a dollar a day. If you're lucky, putting you out, fighting fires, whatever they do to prisoners there. Very fucked up. Not good. The measure defines a lethal autonomous weapon system is one that,

quote, utilizes technological means to attack targets without further intervention by a human operator. Quote, this is one of those proactive things that we can do to ensure all of our futures and our children's futures, Quotum said. I believe we as Montanans, we as Americans, and we as human beings really need to get ahead of this and prevent a disaster 10, 20 years in the future. That's forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward is forward th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the. the. the, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, th. I th. I th. th. Qu. Qu. Qu. Qu. Qu. Qu. Qu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theateateateateateat, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theateateateate. Quo. Quo a disaster 10, 20 years in the future. That's forward thinking. This is like quite silly because like I think we've established that murder is like not legal by whatever means that you do it.

You can make a bomb or whatever. Like you're not allowed to murder somebody I feel like is like a base. It's a common one. What if the robot just does it by itself? What if someone built that robot? No, I didn't intend. They just let it loose and it's accidentally, I mean, we've already got that.

It's called a Tesla. That's right. He told the, oh wow, I was picturing a woman this whole time. I guess I'm not sexist. I did it. I'm not sexist. Oh wait though, it's because it was a really dumb fucking idea. He told the House Judiciary Committee that recent advances in autonomous drone, artificial intelligence and facial recognition technologies have made L-A-W-S's a reality in which a drone or robot could be outfitted with weapons like guns, blades and explosives and operate under its own computer artificial intelligence systems.

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That's right. It's a powerful position. He drinks 35 cans of diet Kokoda that can't be good for him. Kortem, a systems administrator said those AI systems could be programmed to have the weapons systems target people through facial recognition, the body temperature of humans or by a specific flag that soldiers might wear on their uniforms. Like you know they're already using this in the military, like they're doing this and it's not illegal for them to do it. It also like, just take the patch off man. Yeah, you could just take the patch off.

Ah, robot dogs come to get me. I'm just going to put on the other patch tap Americans being like, I can't do that to you old glory. Or whatever the fuck they call their flag. Flag stays on. Quote, this danger is no longer science fiction, he said. This guy seems like a blast from the past and frankly, I like him. I like it. It's got a fun little vibe. Yeah. While law enforcement in Montana has started using drones for crash reconstructions, search

and rescue operations and crime scene investigations over the past few years, it has not thus far tried to use any drones or robots affixed with weapons. Good. Problems. Yeah, that's good. But police in Oakland, California last year considered using robots affixed with shotguns. Of course they did. Holy fuck, man. Jesus Christ.

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if you guys did the just go in a bed and it's like do you want to do your robot dog up there? Nah I don't want to plug it in. It can't be fucked. And then the patch notes for it are just like quality of life improvements. Just vague. San Francisco Board of Supervisors approved, then pulled authorization for the police department to use robots affixed with bombs to kill people, quote, as a deadly force option when risk of loss of life to members of the public or officers is imminent and outweighs any other force option available. In 2016, the Dallas Police Department strapped C-4 to a robot to kill a man who killed five

police officers in a deadly rampage. Look, it's not a fun or funny situation, but the phrase strapped C4 to a robot. It seems very haphazard. It seems a little chaotic. Don't say strap, say armed, equipped with, you know, like you just tied it on there like with some like electrical tape or something? Like, a couple of zip ties. That's on fun.

Taser manufacturer Axon Enterprises pulled back on a plan last year to fix the weapons to drones after most of its artificial intelligence ethics poured resigned of the proposal. Good call. Probably a good call, yeah. Just be like, gentlemen, I unveil our latest and greatest design. Taser strapped to the electrical tape to a drone. Everyone's just like, oh, I'm out. No, I'm not going to get a job after this if I prove that one. Can't have this on my record. I'm working. Good luck with all this. So Tim McKenrick who lost his long sentence this one sorry this is one this whole paragraph is one extremely long and

wonderful sentence Tim McHenryk who lost in his primary race in house district 75 last year and faces a felony charge for allegedly falsifying his signature on a local school board ballot according to the bolder monitor was the lone person to testify in opposition to the bill on behalf of himself in the Montana Trappers Association. Felony charged for allegedly falsifying his signature on a local school board ballot. Which, okay, it's a vote for a local school board, like, come on, it's not that... It's not a big deal, and you falsified your own signature?

Is he trying to like... We should maybe look into what this is. Maybe, that's very strange. Because, for what possible reason? On the local school board ballot. Was he trying to... Ooh, what a spicy headline? Mm-hmm. He was charged with deceptive election practices. It's not a real election.

Jefferson County candidate Tim McEnryk allegedly to tell officials that he falsified his signature to test election integrity. Oh, I'd like to see if they checked a signature. By doing fraud. By doing a fraud to test your fraud. A Republican legislative candidate running for a seat in Jefferson County has been charged with the felony after allegedly falsifying a signature on a ballot for Jefferson High School Board of Trustees in order to test the system according to court documents filed late last month. The charges alleged that

McHenryk used an altered version of his signature on his absentee ballot return envelope in an all-male high school board of trustees election. McHenry allegedly did so on the same day that he told voters that a monitor-hosted candidate forum that they wouldn't be able to read his ballot signature, that there are too many people that can forge thrown in ballots, because they're too hard to keep a haa to to to to their to to their to to their to to their their to to their to to their to to they're too hard to keep a hundred percent track of to know that the person who filled it out sent it in. Right so he kind of he sort of nipped that one in the bud because they got him. Yeah they got him. Like they did they figured it out. Signature is a stupid system like nobody's checking it and you can easily forge someone's signature. It doesn't mean anything. Oh my god this is so

good. His comments led an election worker, Jefferson High School business manager, Laurie Carey, to double check his signature. You're idiot. Carrie said he felt she felt the signature on his return envelope didn't match the signatory had previously used and confirmed her suspicion with someone serving this election judge according to court documents. Got his ass. He got him.

The next day, Carrie mailed McEnryk, a ballot signature verification form used in instances of discrepancy among others. He went to the high school, told them that he'd done it on purpose. Great, so he seems like a great guy and he doesn't like or he does like the robots. He does like them. That's so good. He's like they've just been like, I think this guy's gonna falsify his signature, so I'll just check it and then he did like he did fraud like so felony charge. Tum ass. as check it and then he did like he did fraud like so felony charge

the dumb ass McHenry said the bill would outlaw mouse traps because they trigger themselves as well that's an incredible like he thinks he's done that the suits of defense yeah yeah yeah good as well as self-driving as well as self-driving cars he's on to earn that one. Yeah, good. Good. Great. Let's get rid of them.

But Caudim said he had checked with an autonomous vehicle company who said that was not the case and that he didn't believe it would apply to any traps, though he was happy to amend the bill to make that clear. The bill's co-spons co-sposp sponsors co-sposp sponsors co-sposp sponsors co-spons co-spons co-spons co-spons co-spons co-spons co-spons co-spons co-s co-spons co-s thons co-s thonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsons is co-s tho-s thus-s tho-s tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that the bill the bill the bill the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bills the bill's co-s the bills the bills the bill's co-s thus cons cons thus thus thus that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that tho sponsors the bill's co-consors include lawmakers from both parties, though representatives Jed and Caleb Hinkle I love America. I love it. Both Belgrade Republicans. Don't, yeah sure. Uh, who said on the House Judiciary Committee, remove themselves after the hearing, Friday.

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We can ban the use of construction of killer robots and set an example to the nation and the world. I like this. Like I feel like he just wants to do it, like Cordon versus the state of Montana. He wants to be the guy that banned killer robots. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M................................ That................ That. That. So, th. I. I. So. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. So. So. So. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So. He wants to be the guy that banned killer robots. I know for a fact what this guy wants is that in 20 years time, they're having meetings, like NATO meetings that are like, my God, it looks like Russia is making robots that violate the Cordem Accord. Exactly.

Oh, America. It's so regional. Yeah. It's time for regional bullshit. Regional bullshit. Every little town has got their own bullshit. Regional bullshit. Every little town has just got to have it.

It's like he's right here with us. It is, I just didn't notice how long that last note lingers for. This is from K-A-R-E News in Minnesota, Grumpy Old Menfest in Wabasha. Like the movie? Like the movie. Is that a film? Yeah, have you ever seen it? I think so. I watched as a kid, I'm pretty sure, and I remember thinking it was kind of funny. Yeah. Yeah. The Grumpy Old Men Festival is underway in Wabasha this weekend. For 30 years the festival has celebrated the iconic movie and is held during the last weekend of February.

Oh it is the movie. Yeah. I thought it was just going to be about like grumpy old guys. Oh no, but it's funny that you say that because if you go like I did this morning to the Wikipedia page for grumpy old men you get a little... Disambiguation. You th. You th. You th. You th. And th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th- thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, thi, for thi, thirty, thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thi, for thi, for thi page for grumpy old men. You get a little... Disambiguation? You do. And then one of the disambiguations is for people. And it says, grumpy old men, colloquial term referring to sufferers of irritable male syndrome. So you're like, well that can't be right, whatever the fuck that is. I've got IMS.

You click on irritable male syndrome, and there's a picture of a sheep or goat-like creature as the preview, very interesting. Irribal Male Syndrome is an annual behavior pattern that has been described in Sowe Sheep and other mammals with a strictly seasonal breeding pattern and described in a 2002 literary review of animal behavior by Lincoln A. Gerald. Okay. IMS is a striking feature in mammals with seasonal breeding patterns. It manifests at the end of the mating season. So a sheep mate for five

weeks during November and December each year and give birth five months later in the spring. The Rams testosterone levels saw during the late autumn mating season. In the winter testosterone levels fall and they stop mating. As their testosterone levels fall they stop mating. As their testosterone levels fall, the Rams become more nervous and withdrawn, striking out irrationally. Oh my God, it's like man PMS. Yeah. The term covers symptoms thought to be caused by a drop in testosterone toile levels in male

mammals. Similar behaviors have been observed in red deer, reindeer and Indian elephants. Oh my god, I tho this is is is is is is is is this is this is this is this is this is th. I th. I thus, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I, I, I, I, I, I, it is thi, it, it's, it's, th, th, the the th, the the the the the, th, th, th, th, th, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, the th, th, th, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. tha-a. tha-s. tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, theei. thea. thi. thi. thi I thought this was just like a funny shirt thing. Like I am that as well. Irritable male syndrome. The way it's fucking phrased in the disambiguation you're like it's a hundred percent. It's a hard you get for your granddad. It's an eye funny post. Yeah. Can't come into work I'm suffering from IMS you know. There's a quote here from the guy who wrote the literature review that I really like. This brief review challenges the dogma that male mammals are constantly reproductively active following sexual maturity at puberty. Good.

Challenge that. Don't normalize it. Yeah, don't normalize that. Males of many and perhaps the majority of long-lived species expressed in testicular activity and behavior during their normal life cycle. In the most extreme examples, as illustrated by the SOI RAM, males continually cycle between the sexually active slash fertile state and the sexually inactive slash fertile state. Yeah, me too, I have bipolar. Often on an annual or long-term basis. In individuals, testicular activity may vary with changes in social status, nutrition, health, age, and other factors.

This also applies to man. Yeah. That's cismen, I guess. But yeah, something to think about. That is something to think about. Yeah, anyway, grumpy old manfest. Events kicked off Friday and continue Saturday with a big fishing tournament, a grumpy plunge. Food vendors and live music.

The 1993 movie Grumpy Old Men starring Walter Mathau and Jack Lemon centers around the salty friendship between John Gustafsson and Max Goldman in the Mississippi Rivertown. What? What? Where is this? Where's Wabasha? Is it in Mississippi? Wabash is in Minnesota? Yeah.

Is grumpy old men set in Mississippi? Are they just having a festival? No, they're in Minnesota. Wait, is this just a typo with the article? It must be, because this is from K-A-R-E-N-Nuse news in Minnesota?.. they they they they they they... They they. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. What they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, what? What, what? What, what? What, they, they, they, where? Where, where? Where, where? Where, where? Where, where? Where, where? Where, where? Are, where? Are. they, where? Are. they, where? Are. they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they? They. They? They're? They're? They're? They're? They're? They're they're they're? They're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're? they're? they're? they, they're in Minnesota. Wait, is this just a typo with the article? It must be, because this is from Kare News in Minnesota. They've written their own state incorrectly. That seems like a massive fuck up on their part. Very confusing. I have here the schedule of events for... It's on this weekend, but if you're already there, you can use this as an audio guide for what you need to be doing right now.

Thank God, I didn't get a little paper schedule. On Friday at 6.30 we have the Grumpy Best Dress Contest. Sounds great. We're at 7, we've got the lighted ATV slash UTV parade. Sponsored by the Tony Montgomery Realty and Auction Company. Thank you, Tony. And it's starting at Slipperies. I'm talking with their motto I'm pretty sure. I'm talking to Hell.

Come on down to Slippery's. Slipries will bushe. Come down to Slipperies, get wet. That's their motto, I'm pretty sure. They got a benefit dinner with Mark Stephen Johnson, that's amazing. Then they've got the grumpy old man festival kickoff party with live music, the Silver Star Saloon, genuinely sounds like a great time. But Saturday, Saturday's is the main day.

This is when the shit really happens. Saturday's crazy. A lot of it starts in the Slippery's Parking Lot. I'm seeing that now. You got the grumpy old man fishing tournament, sponsored by Holst Farms, that's at the Parkside Marina. You got the grumpy old man ice bar sponsored by Slippery's. That's in the Slippery's Parking Lot. I wanna go to the grumpy old man ice bar at the Slippery Parking Lot. It's sponsored by Slippery. So bad. Get some of those Slippery Specials.

They have the Chili Feed at Anderson House Hotel. Okay. That's at 11. So you fill up on Chile, then you go back to the ice bar at the Slippery's parking lot. Perfect. Yep. 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. we got bingo at lunch at the NCSF Street Felix Jim or St. Felix. Perhaps. Not familiar with my saints. Here's the big one at the United Church of Christ, the 16th annual hot dish luncheon.

I love it. Yeah. Just hot dishes? Hot dish luncheon. What do you need to know? They've got statue painting for all ages. They got the Regetti spaghetti dinner. What does that mean? Regetti spaghetti dinner. What does that mean? Regetti spaghetti dinner. Regetti spaghetti dinner.

Regetti spaghetti dinner. You just get some spaghetti? Yeah, but it's Regetti. Not to be confused with the Regretti spaghetti dinner. Regetti is one of the pirates of the Caribbean. He's the one played by that guy from the office, the English office. Okay. Yeah, the tall one. We got wagon rides and smores with the Riverboat Day Queens. Riverboat Day Queens, not day queens. Not like drag queens that only come out by day. Okay. Yeah, day walkers. The cribbage tournament. Perfect. Yeah don't miss that. The grumpy plunge hosted by Great River Homes. Yeah. Thanks, Great River Homes. Live music by the

Chubs. Again in the Slippery's parking lot. Now this is probably pronounced Jungers but sponsored by Junger's flooring I'm going to say because that's more fun. So sponsored by Junges the Chubs are playing in the slippery parking lot. The chubs are playing in the slippery parking lot sponsored by Junjus flooring. Language is so beautiful. Live music by Ricky D. Fireside Chat with Mark Stephen Johnson. People are crazy about Mark Stephen Johnson.

Love it. And then, sadly, all good things must end. From 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. The shutdown party is happening with some DJ music. I'm going to say, this sounds like a lot going to say this sounds like a lot of fun. Holy fuck it sounds like a great time. You just imagine two days of going to the Slippery's parking lot, slipping up, slipping down, going out.

Go ahead and spaghetti, cribbage. Hot luncheon. A chili feed. It's a lot of feeds. You could get like a lot of feeds in this day. And you're going to need it. Because they free pour at Slipperies. They do. They are not watching what they're doing in the slightest. You say leave me the bottle at Slippery's and instead of saying this isn't a cowboy movie I'm not leaving you the bottle they say. Yes sir. Yeah you got, pal. Get slippery with it.

Ah, now that's thinking slippery. Yeah, those are the sorts of wholesome activities you wouldn't see on Tick Tock, because mostly it's stuff that sucks. It's time for Tick Tock Watch. This is a story from the Huffing to Post. Tick Tock parents apologize for video showing how to sneak toddler on Disney rides. I saw this. Yeah this one I made like a... I was like I was like I was like this is... Making an exception for this one. But fucking hell, come on. It's so funny.

It's so many elements of so much shit I hate. The Florida family went viral for a Tick-Tock video that showed how to make their toddler son meet the height requirements for certain thrill rides, emphasis mine, at the Disney theme parks is now apologizing for the quote shoe hack. There's all those things where it's like, did you not think before you posted this on the internet? At all. Like doing your horrible things alone is one thing, but you should know that you're going to be yelled at for certain things. There's so much about this.

Now let's get into the specifics here. The family has also removed all videos referencing the hack, save for a single apology video where they claim, quote, with influence comes responsibility. Yeah, you like Spider-Man moat. Fuck, it's so weird. They're like the one people know what they like being called influences. Everybody else uses it as a pejorative term, but they'll happily embrace that. Yeah, they love it. It all started when Ty and Haley Kelly, hey, save some Y's for the rest of us.

You get him. Post a video where they glued flip-flop bottoms to their son's shoes so he'd meet the 38-inch height requirements for some rides. So they pachinoed their boy. They did. They put some lifts on him. They just put some li put some lips the lips just put some little lips on him. Although Ty Kelly described the shoe gluing as quote the ultimate theme park hack. Stop calling stuff hacks.

Yeah, it's not a hack and it's not, it's not the ultimate. If there are hacks out there, that would definitely not be the best one. No way. The ultimate theme park hack is to chuck a midweek sickie and go on like a Tuesday. Yeah. Because there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. the. the. theat. theat. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea' thea' thea. thea. thea. I the. the. I the hack is to chuck a midweek sickie and go on like a Tuesday. Yeah. Because there's no one else there. That's right. I mean, at least for like the shit Australian ones. People are probably always.

It's always busy at Disney World, probably. Probably. Although Ty Kelly described the shoe gluing as the ultimate theme park hack, others weren't impressed by the couple's ingenuity, feeling as one YouTube commenter, th.......... th. th. the th. the the th. the th. the the th. their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.. The ultimate, thea, thea, thea'.a' ultimate, theauu.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u. The ultimate, their, their feeling as one YouTube commenter noted, as if they seem to care more about a YouTube video than quote your child's safety. Yeah, I think they did. That's probably pretty common on parenting Tick-Tuck. At first, Ty Kelly responded to the criticism by claiming the hack was faked in a now deleted video. Smart.

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Is there anything you won't lie about? Tie Kelly? Can't try to say anything you say now because you've told so many lies in the past. Uh, but... But... Tide Kelly also claimed his son was actually tall enough for rides, but didn't acknowledge that someone viewing the first video without that context might take his advice seriously. Maybe. You say if anyone watched the video and interpreted it the way you intended for it to be interpreted,

they might be confused. Yeah. You're right. That changed on Friday when the couple posted an apology video. In the apology, they said they now realized that, quote, what started off as us trying to make an entertaining video for our audience that we thought you'd enjoy quickly and turned into us realizing that we put out on our platforms crash life to us realizing that what we put out on our platforms is more consequences than we initially thought. Ty Kelly admitted that while his own son was unharmed from

the video he and Haley Kelly now realized their actions could influence another parent to try the potentially dangerous shoe stunt on their own kids. Haley Kelly said that she hopes their followers give them the chance to quote, prove that we love our children and they take their responsibility as influences seriously. I feel like just saying that we need to prove that we love our children implies like like they a hundred percent took this kid on those rights. Yeah they did. They definitely did. They think the rules are just there to like to be rude like to be difficult? They're to stop little Brandon from having a good time. Yeah it's all there for. Some about this is just like so sort of saying that they didn't intend for anyone to actually use the hack and the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They the their, their, they, their, they, they, their, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're, they're, they're, they're just just just took, took, took, took, took, took, they're took, they're, they're they're they're they're their, they're for. Some about this is just, like so sort of saying that they didn't intend for anyone to actually use the hack and

that they, their son wouldn't do it and blah blah, all this stuff and saying the, oh the video is just to entertain. What's the fucking entertainment video? What's the entertainment? What's the entertainment? What's the the theme, the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the like, you know those designed to be viral like, incredible hacks videos where it's like someone, you know, it's always weird tricks with a pasta spoon or whatever. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I just realized this is how you use the pasta spoon, but it isn't. It's not. It's not. Yeah. It's just something about that where like, the internet sucks. We all know the internet

sucks. But so much of the shit on there is people just making stuff that is not useful or interesting or entertaining. It's just filler garbage for people to sort of look at for 90 seconds of being like, wait, what, that doesn does make sense and then scroll onto the next thing. It depresses me, so much. There's heaps of that now on Tick Tock that's just like, oh, watch to the end to see what happens. And then nothing happens. Yeah.

And you've just, like, you've just generated two cents or whatever. Yeah. really cool. Having everything everyone does all the time be sort of to cater to the whims of algorithms, probably not good. Yeah. They're about to launch a thing for Spotify where they're adding like a TikTok style front page you can do to like swipe vertically through songs and like it'll present you because you know it like makes mixes and shit for you. Yeah. You use those, but it will be one where it's like, it's got a bit of looping video with it and stuff and whatever to give it to you in the format of just like flicking through Tick Tocks.

Because that's how you... Because that's how our brains are being trained to work, yeah. That's how you make people like, focken, like the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin's thi. thin, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's theeeeeeeat's theeeeat's like theeat's like theat's like theat's like thr-a. It's like thi. It's thi people like fucking addicted to looking at a phone is it's like The Poke's machine style way. I don't know Phone's bad and I'm old and grumpy about it You know whatever happened to planes Good old-fashioned planes. That's right. It's time of course for plainly speaking Ah, this is your captain speaking. Please return your seats for their upright positions as we are coming in hot on another edition of Plainly Speaking. This is sort of familiar territory for us this one. It's just another annual update.

This is from the Associated Press. Roughly 18 guns per day intercepted at US airport security in 2022. A new record! That's so many guns. That's so many fucking guns. That's just a crazy amount of guns. That's how many they got too. They intercepted those ones. Yeah. That's the implication, isn't it? It sure is. You know they're just not catching like 95% of them. Yeah. And also like, these 95% of them. Yeah. Easily. And also like these are the interceptions of guns that are like undeclared or improperly stowed or whatever. But like imagine the numbers on how many people are just flying with guns in America and it's fine.

Like that you're allowed to. Yeah. Probably. I mean not in your carry-on, but like you know you just have a locked box in your luggage, yeah I assume that's allowed. And then you can do a sort of a Air Force One type situation where you're like oh I'm just gonna I have to go to the bathroom but you climb down into the luggage hold. You get your gun. Yeah. And then you take that bad boy to Cuba. I don't remember the luggage hold. You get your gun. Yeah. And then you take that bad boy to Cuba. I don't remember the plot of Air Force One, but... I don't remember. The president is fighting off a bunch of bad guys that are on board his plane or whatever? Yeah. And the president's Harrison Ford. Sick. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. The woman flying out of Philadelphia's airport last year

remember to pack. Prescription medicine medicine and a cell phone in her handbag. But what was more important was what she forgot to unpack, a loaded 0.380 caliber handgun in a black holster. Just forgot. Just like, oh shit, I didn't know that was in my bag, sorry. That shit's like heavy as well. Yeah. You didn't feel that in your handbag? You didn't feel it. Come on. The weapon was one of the 6,542 guns that the Transportation Security Administration intercepted

last year at airport checkpoints across the country. The number, roughly 18 per day, was an all-time high for guns intercepted at U.S. airports and is sparking concern at a time when more Americans are armed. Quote, what we see in our checkpoints really reflects what we're seeing in society. We live in a society. We live in a society. At an airport, and that airport is a microcosm of society. He's right to say it.

And in society, there are more people carrying firearms now of days, TSA administrator David Picosky said. That's so funny. It's a funny thing to say. The checkpoints are, you know, as above so below, as in society, as at the screening area. Yeah, what is the screening area but not a small society? That's so true. A snapshot of society. When you're standing in line and you're not taking your shoes off fast enough at the Dallas, Fort Worth airport and a TSA lady is screening at you to hurry it up, which they always do constantly for some reason, that's society. That's society.

That's funny because I would say that everything in the airport is, like it's not society in there. You're stepping out of society as soon as you get to the TSA the T T T T the T the T the T T the T T the T T the T T the airport is, like it's not society in there. You're stepping out of society as soon as you get to the TSA line. People don't act normal. Something happens to people's brains at the airport and they can't be normal anymore. The shops are weird. They are weird. They're all strange. Yeah, I don't know what it is about.

Airports are just their own sort of thing. Well, you have to forget the rules of where you were before. Oh, $7 for a bottle of water. And I would normally never buy a bottle of water anywhere in my life. That's right. Yeah, I'll grab one of those. Yeah, I'll buy a $30 top 100 book. You know, it's actually kind of nice that like, even though you just put your phone into airplane mode and then you just do whatever. You probably get, if you're in America, you're probably getting cheap in-flight Wi-Fi too.

Hmm. And on some Australian airlines. The bookstores the airport, I assume is still thriving. Yeah. People are still like- When else you're gonna read? Yeah, this is the only time. You got that, uh, the subtle art of not giving a fuck or whatever. It's all shit like that. You can read the subtle art of not giving a fuck at any airport. Unfuck your brain space. And if someone saw you reading that, they wouldn aren't like, what's up with that guy? He's like, oh, he couldn't find a seat? Yeah, you can sit on the ground here.

You can sleep on the floor at the airport and no one's going to be like, hey buddy, you can't sleep there, they're gonna be like, they're gonna be like, they're so. Well, that's our airport gear. Everyone those airports are a bit weird. So weird in there. With the exception of pandemic disrupted 2020, the number of weapons intercepted at airport checkpoints has climbed every year since 2010.

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Oh, yep, I guess that's there was at least one incident at each of those airports. Yeah. Cool. But it tends to happen more at bigger airports in areas with laws more friendly to carrying a gun, Paskosky said. The top 10 list for gun interceptions in 2022 includes Dallas, Austin and Houston in Texas. Yep. Three airports in Florida, yeah. Nashville, Tennessee, yeah, Atlanta, Phoenix and Denver. Denver's a light surprise to me there I think. I don't know why. Those pot-smoking mountain climbers. Yeah, get him. Yeah. Piskosky isn't sure the quote I forgot excuse is always true or whether it's a natural reaction to getting caught. Regardless, he said, it's a problem that must stop. At least he's on to it. He's not buying that. Yeah. sir, you didn't. You didn't forget shit. When TSA staffers

see what they believe to be a weapon on the x-ray machine, they usually stop the belt so the bag stays inside the machine and the passenger can't get to it. Then they call in local police. That makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah. Can you pull that out and show us what it is? Yes I can. Yes I here? I can show me what you've got. Repercussions vary depending on local and state laws. The person may be arrested and have the gun confiscated, but sometimes they're allowed to give the gun to a companion not flying with them, and continue on that way. Mom, can you take my gun back on? Can you come and pick up my gun? The TSA saw it. I'm just going to say, I don't think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin' thin' thin' thin' the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. the. toge. toge. toge. toge, toge, toge, toge, toge. toge. toge, toge. toge. the. th it. I'm just going to say, I don't think you should have your gun in the airport either. No. I don't want your gun outside the gates. Like, yeah, are you just like standing in line and just being like, here you go, just walk back through. Just handing it over the fence to like your friend. Throwing it. I don't want to go through security again, but woo you eat that over there. The woman. the woman. the woman. the w w w. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to to to to to to to get to to the the to to to get to to go to to go to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. I the. I te. I te. teate. teateate. teateate. teate. teate. teate. te. that over there.

The woman in Philadelphia saw her gun confiscated and was slated to be fined. Unloaded guns can also be placed in checked bags assuming they follow proper procedures, of course. Okay. These federal fines are the TSA's tool to punish those who bring a gun to a checkpoint. Last year, TSA raised the maximum fine to $14,950 as a deterrent. Passengers also lose their pre-check status.

Yep. Yeah. For five years. It used to be three years, but about a year ago the agency increased the time and change the rules. Passengers may also miss their flight as well as lose their gun. Oh, that's too bad things. That's two worst things that can th th th th th th th th that can th th th th th th th th th that can th th th th th th thi thi th bad things. That's two worst things that can happen to you. You don't get to go to Carbo and you've lost the Glock. Shit sucks, man. It's not worth it. Best, worst, Fourth of July weekend ever. The federal officials can prove the person intended to bring the gun past the checkpoint

into what's called the airport's sterile area. It's a federal offense. How are you going to prove it? Yeah. If I just say I forgot. I forgot. Look at me. Don't I look dumb as shit? Oh, he's got the defense. He knows his laws. He knows about it. He made sure to wear no shirt but overalls with only one strap done up. He was chewing on a piece of hay. Yeah. And when I pulled the gut out, he went, oh no. Oh, I forgot. I forgot. I'll never do anything right. Fuck this guy's good. I guess I'm just an idiot. I'm so ofish. Shit! This man is a legal genius. For the TSA officers searching for prohibited items, it can be jarring. In Atlanta, Janisa Howard was monitoring the x-ray machine when she realized she was looking at a gun in a passenger's laptop bag.

She immediately flagged it as a high-threat item and police were notified. Howard said it felt like her heart dropped and she was worried the passenger might try to get the gun. It turns out the passenger was a very apologetic businessman who said he simply forgot. I forgot that I put my gun in my laptop bag. Ah shit I put my business gun in with my business laptop because I had to go do some business, but I was meant to leave the business gun at home. It looks like I left my laptop at home. Oh th, uh. th, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and the, and the, and the, the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and the, and the, and the, and th to leave the business gun at home. It looks like I left my laptop at home. Uh-oh. Wait, if I've got this... Howard says she understands travel can be stressful, but people have to take care when they're getting ready for a flight.

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Do you know where your gun is? Officials put in new signage to catch the attention of gun. A hologram over a revolving bluethe image of a revolving blue gun with a red circle over the gun with a line through it. They put like a neon, don't bring your gun sign. This is like the graphics that they would have at like a Star Wars airport. Neon, no guns. Where the fuck did we get hologram? What the wholeogram? It's a hologram? Over the checkpoint. It's a blue rotating gun. It's literally, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, it's the th, th, th, th, the th circle, th circle, the the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, the the the th circle, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th c th c th circle, th circle, th circle, th circle, the, the, thir thir thir thir the, the, thrc thrue cir the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the a hologram. It's a hologram! Over the

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as a major heinous crime. I bet you wouldn't. Yeah. Because you think guns. . You're are are You're crazy about him. You've gun crazy. Uh, quote, these are not bad people that are in dire need of punishment, he said. These are people who made a mistake. Yeah.

This is so stupid. I thought Americans were like terribly scared of terrorism. Like you're taking your shoes off. I think they love guns more than they're scared of terrorism. They will happily take the shoes off. They'll put their nasty little socks on the nasty screening area floor with a big old smile on their faces. Getting your body scan where they're looking inside your body at your organs. They're using sonar to get the exact shape of your junk. That's right. You putting your arms up like in theified. Oh I hate it. Don't put me in the

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body. But also, don't make me do like a funny pose. Look at that dumb guy with his arms up and he looks vaguely nervous because he knows his junk is being scared. Everyone's laughing at me. Everybody's laughing at you. I hate it. I try not to look at the person in front of me so that I'm like, solidarity. Yeah. Looking away.

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Someone's just got a gun on your plane. Yeah, there is, look to your left, look to your right, and then look at all of the other seats, one of those people has a gun. And you can try to pick who it is. That would be kind of a fun game for you. That is a fun little game. And thin' tho, th, what is a th, what is a fun, what is a fun, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's, thi's, thi. thi. thi's, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi, the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Is. It is, thi. Is. Is. It is thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's is a thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. It as we decided with last week's, well this week's crime pass, when you've found the person you think has the gun, stand up, point up, I mean yell the word gun, as loud as you can. Just yell that guy has a gun.

Yeah, oh my God, that guy has the gun. And then while people try to figure out why you added the definite article, the gun. The gun. Yeah, and that's just a fun little thing you do. That's this one's crime pass. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've got to entertain yourself, right?

Because you're not really reading. You're done reading, unfuck your brain or whatever. Yeah. Heck and get your shit sorted. Yeah. Yeah. This is th. This is th. sorted or whatever. Well this has technically been an episode of the podcast Buntavista. This is the end of Freemian Freebore. This is the final taste of what

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