Boonta Vista - UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE: Militarised Mechanised War-Apes In The Next Big Conflict

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Music Hello and welcome to Buntavista. This is a bonus episode. I'm Ben and hello and welcome to Buntavista The Corrections, the companion podcast of Buntavista where we go through the corrections we've been sent over the years. Let's begin. Uzbekistan is not in the European Union. Plunges do not suck things out of toilets, but rather apply pressure to clogs,

forcing them to pass further along the drain. Busterford Jones is the name of one of the cats from Cats. Yes, that's true. It's mmm.not mmm. The suit is from Project Grizzly, not Grizzly Man. X-ray machines aren't radioactive until you turn them on. It's a bit pedantic, but okay. Whittaker's chocolate is good, actually.

Okay, fair enough. Meatballs are good, actually. No one said meatballs were bad. We're just talking about the delivery system. Someone said that they did like a really little like, oh, okay. I guess I'll never get a member of Budta Vista to cook me meatballs. Then the comments on the Patreon post from like, that wasn't on the cards. This is sort of like, it's like a medium where we deliver you audio.

And also I'd probably just do like a mince sauce, like a mince ragu or something. I'm not doing fucking meatballs. Oh no, I think we genuinely made Theo sad. I think you made Theo feel sad. Oh God, okay. Trunk or treating is good actually. So there's that. Are we counting good actually as a correction?

That just seems like your opinion, man. Very subjective. I've chosen it based on phrasing. There are ones where people say, oh, you know, I kind of like it. There are others where people just said, you're wrong. You're wrong. It's good. Yeah.

We've never pronounced a Welsh place name correctly ever. This is just sort of a- I wouldn't expect that we were. Come on now. We got a bunch of them't expect that we were. Come on now. We've got a bunch of them really, really- That's not on us. Cardiff. I think we got that one.

Yep. Okay. And am I going to correct those right now by having Ben read out the correct pronunciations, I believe? No, I am not. That's all the ones I've got so far. Lucy, would you like to apologize for any of these? Oh no. I feel like I never for any of these? Oh no.

I feel like I never said any of the things that were wrong. I don't think any of these are you. Maybe the thing about the plunger. Cause I remember, I remember reading that fade back and saying, no, that's actually, that isn't true. Plungers suck the turds out of the toilet. Like, yes, they create a vacuum when you suck upwards the turds. It's a vacuum, just you suck up with the toilet.

Uh, Andrew, would you like to apologize for any of these? Uh, no, cause if the plunger is not sucking the turds out, what am I doing when I pick each turd up with my bare hand and put it in a bucket to take outside? Demonstrably false. How does that work? And like no one's writing in for all, think of how many hours of audio we've recorded over seven or eight years or something. No one's writing in about how often the things we say are correct. Sometimes people do, but they

made it in a way where like they're surprised that we got it correct because we're so stupid about everything else. Yeah that's true. It's like, oh you nailed that one, that's weird. Yeah it's like how you can you can call a place or send them an email to like give them feedback but in reality it's mostly people who are having like an out-of-the-ordinary experience who contact you you know like who having a negative experience who contact you which really means that if the people contacting us are the ones who are having a bad time because of something that we've said, it really means the overwhelming majority of people

are experiencing the podcast. Number one, correctly. Silently. Yep. Correctly, silently, nodding without saying anything and agreeing with us and our opinions. If something that you heard on the podcast upset you because it didn't jibe with your own version of reality, that is actually a you problem. Yes.

Yeah. You've engaged with this material that's been put out into the world in what I think we can all agree is An air of complete honesty and love And you've chosen to pick a fight with that You've chosen they don't know where is bekistan is do you? Yeah, although it turns out and I really want to hammer this home because we've got so many corrections about these bekistan stuff That that wasn't our issue. The issue was that the lady he was with was from Uzbekistan, but he was in Eastern Europe. Those were two separate things. Got a lot of corrections

about Uzbekistan. It was making me fucking crazy. But you know, it's lovely to hear from people. It's really, really nice. It's great. It's always so nice to hear feedback. You know, they're engaged with the show. Yes, that's how we know they're actually listening instead of the many people that tell us they don't hear any of the words or remember any of it because they're not paying attention because they're doing something else. They're going to bed or something. They get like the first seven minutes and then they're conked out and then they get woken up by the outro song and then they get mad at me. I don't know what to do about that. Hey, if you got a problem with us, maybe that's something that we could sort out

with a frank interpersonal dialogue. The sort of thing that we do on Paging Dr. Lucy. relationship trouble. Just to pick up your telephone and dial it on the double. You call 1-800-317-5155. Now you're paging Dr. T. That's coming to us from r slash Christian swingers. Yes. Yes. Completely open church service slash gathering. Come on, bro. I'm really Christian swingers.

I'm going to like need a minute to digest that one. I think to me, it's I, when I saw that combination of words, I was hooting and hollering and then I thought about it a little bit more. And I was like, that's maybe the most quintessentially American, like middle American concept I can think of. Christian swingers. Like that is, I reckon every couple in the Midwest is a Christian swinger. 75% of them, they're Christian swingers.

I just got that beautiful aspect of like, all the stuff in the Bible is true, except the stuff that I don't like. Yes. These people are having some theological arguments I'm seeing in the subreddit about whether or not this is really like a problem. Like whether the Bible, cause it's not cheating on your partner. Right. So it's whether the Bible, but aren't you not supposed to have, I guess not all

Christians don't believe in sex outside marriage. So Yeah I don't I don't love This stuff now. No one points a cancel gun at me, but I don't it's loaded. It's loaded Yeah, I personally table but personally not not a religious dude, but I do see stuff from people in a few different religious communities where they're kind of trying to trick God. I don't know if this falls into the same category, like the Mormons soaping thing. It's like the Mormons jumping on the bed to have sex or whatever.

I don't think that was real. I think that was just like a meme. I think that's happening. I think that was just like a meme. I think that's happening. There's other stuff though. I think people are continuing to talk about soaking. There's lots of like God loopholes, Bible loopholes that people are doing. Yeah, you see the ones with... Axillary intercourse, doing it in the armpit, that sort of stuff.

I don't know if you guys have seen any of the videos of like, um, of, of like Jewish people in New York talking about how they deal with various rules based stuff, like for, for, um, I'm trying to remember when it was from, but it's, it's things like, you know, during Passover or whatever occasion it is, you know, you can't use electrical lights or you can't, you can't like turn this appliance on or that's like orthodox Jews on Sabbath. So it's like, once a week, like it's a very frequent thing. Yeah. And so so you can find all these posts of people going. So

this is what we do in our household. I, I get a stick, and I put a Mickey Mouse hand on the end of the stick and I use the index finger of the Mickey Mouse hand to turn on my coffee machine and then I'm just holding a stick. It's the Mickey Mouse hand that's turned on the coffee machine. So that's okay. I don't think God's caring about loopholes, right? Like I think it's more the spirit of the thing.

Yeah, and I feel like if you're putting in a lot of effort to kind of dance around the spirit of the thing, it sort of makes me go, is this a bit of a wanting to have your cake and eat it too situation? I feel like you can be a swinger or you can be a devout Christian. I don't know about that at all really. I'd love to hear the theological arguments here. You're pro-Christian swingers? I think for the exceptions people make for stuff that's explicitly in the Bible, this is like...

One of the low ones. Yeah, I mean there's so much stuff in there. There's far more egregious things. It's like, oh, you should not ever be rich and you should give your money to the poor people and everyone's like, nah, not me. I hate that one. Boo. Nah, throw that one out.

There are major churches built around like prosperity doctrine stuff, which is the exact opposite of that. This is always the one people use as an example, but there's a bunch of stuff in Leviticus that is just people just flat out ignore, like not being able to eat shellfish, not being able to have clothes of more than one cloth, like type of fabric. Yeah, just pick and choose what you like, ditch the rest. I don't think there's a lot in the Bible that explicitly says, hey, you can't have an open sexual relationship.

Like if it's you, your partner and other people, I don't think there's anything in there explicitly saying, hey. Are you not coveting thy neighbor's wife? Yeah, but that's only in a way that's like, to the detriment of your wife, I guess. What if it's both of you doing it and then you're- What if the neighbor's inviting you over? Yeah.

What if, well, I guess fucking your neighbor's wife isn't coveting her, is it? No, you can't covet someone you can't fuck, I think. Yeah. I don't know, I think this is relatively, I don't think this is contrary to what's in the Bible. I think it's contrary to the common understanding and practice of Christianity, but so is having like gay people in the church and stuff. And that is still something that we do.

I'm going to have to hear each of these people's individual marriage vows. Yes. Here we go. I've read in a few places on the internet that there are some few and small gatherings of Christian swingers that might be at a spicy weekend group meetup with several other couples that take a scheduled time out as a group to have a small, meaningful service there with the people they've been playing with over that weekend. Now, of course, using play in the swinger sense of the term, by which they mean sucking and fucking.

This has stuck with me over the years and sounds like a very open and enjoyable freeing experience of fellowship with other Christians that you've been able to experience an uncommon closeness with anyone here heard of this or experienced anything like it. It's like a special church service of the guy you jacked off last night or whatever. Yeah. Like he fucked your wife, you fucked his wife, you fucked him, he fucked you, you sucked her, she sucked her as well. Well, everyone's sucking, everyone's fucking and then you come in together.

Yeah. I immediately went to the highest source of authority to get an answer on this. Quora. Is there such a thing as Christian Swingers? And the top answer here from Christine Hajalenko-Garant. And you know how people have their like little qualifications underneath? Hers is, I went to hedonism two in Negril, Jamaica three, nine times in three years. Hell yeah. I remember hedonism. Hedonism two. We've got like a whole episode about hedonism two.

Christine says, yes, there are. Matter of fact, every career genre, every age group, every religion you can possibly think of, every country you can possibly think of every type of person you can possibly think of yes there are swingers in everything that you see and know but for obvious reasons certain people tend to keep that side hidden depending on a family job orientation religious orientation etc you get the picture letter you me myself personally I blaze it with the upside down pineapple. LOL. Polish farrier. There are Polish farrier swingers?

There's Polish farrier swingers. Swedish tennis instructors. Muslim dentist? Muslim dentist swingers. Seems... I feel like you've really exaggerated there. I'm not sure if there's that many swingers around us. And if there is, that's scary to me. Every community of every type, everywhere in the world. I think that's a strong statement.

I think that there are a silent majority of swingers. That's my suspicion. I think that the American nuclear family, predominantly Hot wifers, swingers, cucks, they reach a certain age and they're all doing it. I think there's heaps that we don't know about. I think we just only hear from the most vocal who are the most annoying ones. Yeah. Like I think the attractive swingers out there are keeping it to themselves.

They're keeping that shit locked up. Like the hot ones that are doing it sexy style. It's dignified at sexy style. They're not saying play, there's no pineapples. Well they're not posting on Reddit because that's embarrassing to post on Reddit. Because they're having sex with like other attractive couples. Oh man. This is like when we talked about uh the person who was like too too many of my swingers parties just have a few people having sex in one of the bedrooms and everybody else is just acting like it's a regular party mm-hmm it's like yeah cuz you can't you can't come out like Rodney Dangerfield really everybody let's swing and then everybody starts

fucking like it's just yeah making a big deal out of it. Not sexy. Asking, when's the sex gonna start? Yeah. No one likes that. Tapping your watch. Oh, jeez. Tapping your watch and looking around at everyone. Can I fuck your wife now? Please.

Oh, doing the like half joking voice. When do I get to fuck your wife? Oh, I just really wish I was fucking your wife right now. Oh, I'm just so impatient to fuck your wife. Just hovering next to someone's conversation. I wonder if there's anyone at this party who wants their wife fucked. I guess someone's going to have to be the first person to fuck someone's wife to get this going.

Whose wife do I got to fuck to fuck someone's wife? Be cool. Be cool and put your keys in the bowl. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Be discreet about it. I think on every suburban American street, every Friday night, there's two sex parties happening and one of them is the Redditors

and like the other ones are the ones that found each other by like coy, sexy talk over the fence where they just sort of intimated that they'd be up for something. And instead of having a fucking Canva flyer for your sex party, they were just like, maybe I'll drop by tomorrow night. Maybe you should. And they rock up black satin dress, big slit down the side. Expensive red wine. Yes.

Yes. Nebbiolo. Campanile, Nebbiolo, San Gervais. And then bam, the magic happens. It's not forced. It's not like there's no admin. What about an admin free sex party? Yeah.

Spreadsheet free. Admin in the sense of like a Reddit admin. System admin, any of that. I wonder as well, if, if you are like a really sexy swinger, uh, I wonder if it is a lot easier to just have spontaneous sexual encounters, you know, if you are like a really sexy swinger, I wonder if it is a lot easier to just have spontaneous sexual encounters, you know? If you're like, if you're really sexy and you're out with your really sexy wife and you both like fucking other people, you could probably just be out and say to somebody that

you're having a conversation with, how do you like to come back to a hotel and fuck the two of us? Well, that's the like the main conversation of like, we saw you from across the bar. Yeah, that probably works Well, i'm saying if you if you're both super hot Then your chances of striking out are probably significantly lowered meaning that like you maybe you do have the luxury of spontaneity Because if you're a real uggo, if you're a regular golem, you know If you're a bunyip coming out of the trees, If you and your trollish husband, wandering around the fruit and vegetable section of Woolworth's asking, does your wife need any sex?

I'll show myself out. The hot people probably have that confidence as well that allows them to like do it in a matter of fact way where they're like, Hey, we saw you. We both think you're really hot. Would you like to come have a matter of fact way where they're like, Hey, we saw you, we both think you're really hot. Would you like to come have a couple of drinks and maybe fool around? And they say it in a way where it gives you the space to say no, because they're saying it so confidently that they could like, Oh, you know, we're interested. I wouldn't be offended. Yeah.

Whereas, you know, that these, the admin types, they're going, Oh geez, I'm sorry if this is inappropriate and you probably don't want to anyway. Oh, you'd definitely say no, but do you want to fuck me and my wife? She's got to fuck you as well. I think if you want, oh, no, forget about it. Oh, no, you wouldn't. You've already turned away. And my sexy swingers are so cool and confident about it that you just sort of

think, well, I wouldn't want to miss out. Yes. There's a limited opportunity. I need to say yes more in my life. The power of yes. How many times has this happened? Yeah. The power of saying yes to couples that approach you at a bar.

I've had this on my vision board for months and here it is right in front of me. I'm not going to say no. Yeah. I have a lot of cut out photos of happy couples from magazines on a vision board, but it's not because you want a relationship, it's because you want to fuck someone and his wife. This is another post from r slash Christian Swingers titled, Next Steps. So if a couple is ready to try some non-monogamy play, where would they start? Using wisdom.

We're in a small city, a small, moderate church. We have a few single divorced and married folk who may be open if approached. Good idea? Three question marks. What's the question? Should you, in your small town, small church start- Ask someone if they want to swing? Probably not.

I don't think that's going to go down well. I don't know your congregation. Maybe it's very progressive. I have like a small feeling that when the entire church realizes that you have approached every member of the congregation that's over 18, they're probably going to start talking about you behind your back. They're going to be talking about you all the time. A hush will fall over the church when you walk in.

They're not even going to give you the collection plate. They're going to skip over you because they don't want your money. They don't want that money. We don't know where it's been. Even worse, we do know where it's been. Yes. You're going to want to look outside your small church. I'm not saying that you can't find other Christian swingers.

Just don't start in your own backyard. Go two towns over. Probably find. I'm sure saying that you can't find other Christian swingers. Just don't, don't start in your own backyard. I'm sure there's a website, right? That's probably a Christian swingers dating site. Absolutely. Got to be. You put the CH in there and you get like swingers, you know, maybe that works. Like Wayne's world. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. Okay. Like Wayne's world. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Hey, if a really beautiful couple approached you at a bar proposing that they might want to have sex with you, that would make for a fantastic story, maybe.

We talk about some fantastic stories in Tabloid Phenomenon. phenomenon. This comes to us from Plymouth Live. I know it's one gigantic stable of websites, but I love that it's like Cardiff Live, somewhere live. There's so much happening in Plymouth. Yeah. We've got that live news pumping in around the clock. Child arrested at Dereford Hospital for, quote, impersonating a doctor. How old? Oh, we're going to find out. Oh, you will find out. Yeah. You can picture this as a toddler in adult size scrubs, if you'd like, if that's funny to you.

Two kids stacked on shoulders. Yep. Ooh, that's a good one. They're only arresting the top one because the bottom one didn't make any claims. A child was arrested by police at Derriford Hospital after they received reports of a person impersonating a doctor. Witnesses said the youngster attended the hospital on the morning of Sunday, January 19th, wearing scrubs and bearing a fake ID, although it was not confirmed which part of the estate he was on, nor whether he had access to patients or medical records.

This is not what you're making a fake ID for, bro. He was just dressed as a doctor? Yeah. With, like, the fake ID really kind of escalates this a little. Yeah, fake doctor ID? Because that's not just like, oh, I got a white coat at a costume shop, but I'm going to walk around the hospital. This is like, I can fucking do it, dude.

They're going to think I'm a fucking doctor for real. Yeah, you've got cancer. You've got cancer. You've got cancer. Double cancer. Triple cancer. Hey, you don't have cancer anymore. This kid saw Catch Me If You Can and said, it's been long enough.

It's been long enough. They're ready for a new one. Police have now confirmed officers attended the hospital and a child was initially arrested but later dealt with by means of quote, words of advice. Should have fucking locked him up. Lock him up. Throw him in the slammer. Smash him with a phone book.

A spokesperson for Devon and Caudwall Police said, Police were called around 10.30am on Sunday 19th January by Derriford Hospital Security following reports from staff of a male impersonating a doctor at the hospital. Officers attended and arrested a 13 year old boy. Who was he fooling? Who was fooled? Did you have to call the cops? You couldn't just be like, hey, Mick, can you get out of here?

Hey, piss off. Go on. Get. Piss off, lad. Scat. Oh, you cheeky bugger. Go on. Get out of here.

Go on, then. That was a right laugh, but piss off, all right? The boy was de-arrested. Can you be de-arrested? I have heard de-arrested only used in the sense of it, you know, like in protests where they try to arrest someone and then like, Oh, we actually weren't allowed to do that.

Well, no, like the protesters get in and like intervene to get them away from the cops. I've seen it used in that sense. As in, the protestors pulled a reverse arrest. Yeah. But the idea of just taking the handcuffs off and ceremonially going, I de-arrest you. You are de-arrested. You have been de-arrested.

I deem you de-arrested. The boy was de-arrested and the matter has since been dealt with by way of words of advice and intervention slash education work from the child centered policing team. No further police action will follow regarding this incident. Why did he do that? Why? How come he did that for?

I would need more information. Why did he get a fake ID to pretend to be a doctor at the hospital? You're too small, first of all. Yes. You should have stacked yourself on another kid. You're never not going to recognize a 13 year old boy for a 13 year old boy. Like he's either tiny or he's gangly as fuck. He could be like the good doctor.

He's good doctoring it. Maybe he's like, um, these, maybe he was taking like special brain pills or something and they made him like hyper smart. Maybe he was saving lives. He was saving lives like the good doctor. Maybe he was good doctoring all those people who was just walking in and being like, oh my God, they fucked up your diagnosis.

It's- Autistically being like, you have cancer, you have cancer. I don't care about it. You've seen clips of that show? It's fucking crazy. I've only seen the one where he smokes weed and becomes not autistic. Oh, like Urkel.

You know, Urkel did his science experiments on himself and then like made himself cool. I know, I did see those. No, I haven't seen a lot of Urkel. Never seen a lot of Family Matters? Haven't seen a lot of Family Matters. It's probably just like maybe a generational gap between Lucy and I. Generational gap, yeah. Maybe we might have just missed out on that stuff.

Just missed out on that stuff. Just missed out on family matters. Poynter used scientific experimentation to turn himself into a not autistic guy. I think Wade would make me more autistic. I mean, we know what it does to you. At least the quantities that Andrew gives people. Ah, that's right. He would turn from Steve Urkel into Stefan O'Quel.

That's a cool guy. No, that's good. Hey, that story had a headline. Let's read some other headlines in Headline News. Seamless. Thank you. Man discovers own grave after identity theft. Uh oh. That's kind of like, part of you, you know, your rational brain would kick in eventually,

but like part of you would probably have a little moment of like, Am I, am I a ghost? Have I been, you're going back through like all the conversations you've had lately. Yup. You're out at dinner with your wife. Seems like she wasn't really responding to me when I was talking. I asked both my kids to pick up their stuff and no one looked away from the TV. Is stuff still on the floor? Am I dead?

Am I dead? I'm fucking dead. Can I die? I went into the subway and the guy didn't look up at me at all when I walked through the door. You give me the sandwich I was asking for? When I was sitting in the corner watching that other Christian guy fuck my wife, I said that he should pull her hair and he didn't.

Hmm. Huh. Driver tells police he fell asleep in car, woke up inside Waffle House. Like still in the car maybe. Yeah, I think. Maybe someone carried him inside. Let's get this guy. Let's prank him really hard.

Let's get some waffles into you. End up inside Waffle House. And one more. Quote, I had 11 perfect years with my pet dog. Then he ripped my nose off Actually saw that today I saw that headline, you know, what I didn't read the story Yeah came across it today and I was like, that's pretty funny Yeah, it's definitely more of a headline news story than it is like a the body of the text is exactly what it sounds like It's quite bad thing. Your dog ripped their nose off.

My dog would never do that. It's so crazy that other people's dogs do that. Winston would kill me if he had the chance. Yeah, he doesn't have the means. He doesn't have the means. He doesn't have anything. He doesn't have the energy. No.

He doesn't have the ability to hold a persistent thought for long enough to pull it off. He can't see me or hear me. He is kind of a ghost it off. He can't see me or hear me. He is kind of a ghost, really. He is dead. Yeah. He was born dead. He was born dead.

Currently haunting you. Hey. Hey always a good start. I think hey is a solid way to start a segue. I hate it when I've been lovingly kissing my dog for eight years in a row only to suddenly be shocked by explosive violence. There's another kind of explosive violence that we love to check in on in the Netherlands in Dutch watch.

It's time for Dutch Watch. Hey everybody, I'm from Holland. Isn't that weird? This comes to us from the NL Times. Nearly 100 explosive attacks in January, most in Rotterdam. We've covered this a little bit, but they don't just do explosions at New Year's. They are just exploding all the fucking time now, apparently. Yeah. So New Year's isn't even like the purge for them anymore. No.

Where they let loose. It's just all the time. See, this is my thing about those, you know, those like rage cage places where people go to like cathartically get their anger out by beating up like a printer or whatever. Yeah. I think you get a taste for it. I think you do. Yeah, I don't think it releases like the feeling that you have.

You think, oh, this feels great. I'd like to do it all the time. It makes a positive reinforcement, right? So you give the Dutch a purge and they go, I had such a good time at New Year's. I just want to do this all the time. I just want to blow up my fingers all year round. I would like to blind a nine-year-old basically any month of the year. Yeah, they're getting a taste for it.

They're all like Edward Norton in Fight Club, you know, just sitting in the office and he can barely hear anything anyone's saying to him. Because all of his senses have been dialed up to 11 when he's out there amongst it, you know? Yeah. His senses been dialed up to 11. Yeah. When he's out there amongst it, you know, yeah. Be like, imagine being asked to just go back to calmly eating your pofferties.

Watching a slideshow at work, you know, about some dumb computer. Abstract form of accounting, eating your pofferties. All time. You're just thinking, what if I put a really big explosive in that waste paper basket, turn it upside down, put it on the desk here. What if I lit a car on fire? We had a Dutch, Andrew, are you trimming your fucking toenails?

Is that? No. It looks like you are. It sounds a lot like you are. It sounds like you are. It sounds a lot like you are. It sounds like you are. Look. Sunday, got a lot of tasks to complete. It's Sunday, I got a lot of tasks and also I just walked into something before and cracked one. It was precarious and really bothering me. I apologize to all of our listeners.

You walked over to the other side of your office, because he's got a long headphone cable, and you got the nail clippers which were already sitting on your desk in your office? Yep. So I usually use them for my fingernails. While you're working? Yeah, sometimes. If you're sitting there in a meeting on mute with your camera off, because there's

like 200 other people there. Man. I've stopped biting my fingernails. I've got fingernails now and I stopped finding mine and now I got to clip them. It's crazy. Yeah. I got to fucking clip them and you got to do it all the time. Apparently if you're not just constantly gnawing at them like a rat, man, it's crazy. And I'm very bothered by it. Like as soon as they're like a micron too long, I'm very bothered by how or where I am of them. You may be experiencing the same thing.

I don't, well, I think I'm not because I am not in the habit of clipping them frequently. And then sometimes I'll just look down and I'll have low pans hands because I've let them get so long. That's really weird. I'm trying to get into the habit of doing it more often, but yeah, it's strange. It's a disgusting, filthy habit and I'm glad I no longer do it anymore, but biting your nails is very convenient. Pretty efficient.

Men love biting their nails. It takes care of the problem. That's a man's folly. Tell that to both of my daughters, Lucy. They both got the gene from me. We're allowed to have shitty, ugly nails. No one's going to be like, wow, your nails look gross. And if someone does tell you that as a man you can be like yeah, I got a man's hands Oh, I legit got very self-conscious about it after like every time I would post a photo online of something that was holding in my hand

Someone would be like oh Chew your nails a lot do you yeah? Love saying shit like that on the internet well they want to pick a detail out from the photo to specifically talk about it's always like yeah It's right. Hey, you got a fucked up hand. Yeah makes you go. Oh, I got ugly hands. Cool. Thanks Yeah, thank you. I do still want to apologize to our listeners though For the clipping I'm leaving the audio of the clip clip in there so it doesn't make me sound crazy.

There were almost 100 reported incidents of explosions at a home, business or car in January. Hey, there's been an explosion at my car. Home, business or car is so funny. Filling in the form online. You got to click one of those radio buttons. Home, business, car or other. Was this explosion located? filling in the form online you got to click one of those radio buttons was this explosion located? it's like the three places an explosion is going to be really yeah it really really reflects you know all the sides of the society that you live in you know you're either at home you're either at work or you're in your

car all the way between the two you're not going to explode like a place that isn't something. Yeah. You can't explode a place that isn't something. You can't explode a place that isn't something. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Great. That's self-exploded. Otherwise you're just letting one off outside, you know, that's not exploiting something because it's not a place. Nothing's been exploded if there's not something that's being exploded.

That's right. The police just going, well, then I don't know what the report's about. I don't know what to write down. What should I write? What should I write? What got exploded? Oh, there wasn't a thing that was exploded. Then nothing was. Yep. If an explosion happens in the woods and nothing gets blown up, did anything get blown up? No. No, we just said it. That's in the question. No. No, we just said it. That's in the question. The only time this happened more often since ANP started tracking it in 2023 was October of last year.

As has so often been the case, most explosions occurred in Rotterdam. That's Rotterdam. It's always Rotterdam. Always fucking Rotterdam. They do things a little differently over there. If Rotterdams are rockin', don't come knockin' because it is currently being exploded. On average, there were three explosions a day last month. Huh. I mean the numbers check out, but to hear it said that way, that's fucking nuts.

Imagine living like that. That's insane. If there was one explosion in Brisbane in a year, everyone would be like, did you hear about that fucking explosion? Yeah. It's this. It's just par for the course. You hear about that explosion in 2017?

They'd all be saying now. Yeah, we'd still be talking about it. Most explosions took place on January the 12th with 10 in one day, including one by the Red Cross Hospital in Beverwijk. The explosions mostly occurred in big cities like Rotterdam, Amsterdam and The Hague. A house on the Meidoonstraat in Rotterdam, which was also targeted several times last year, was hit with an explosive twice this month. Like learn to light a bag of dog shit on fire or something.

Is this all you guys know? Just little pranks. Can we have some little pranks maybe? Also, how crazy is it to have your house exploded multiple times and you're still, the house is still there. All we know is mayonnaise on French fry and throw explosive.

Bad. Sexy. Vulgar. A home on the Freimark in Almere was hit with an explosive last night. This resulted in damage being done to the front door. Yep. The number of incidents with explosions has risen sharply in the last few years. The police estimate that over half of these are not connected to organized crime,

but rather are the result of a dispute. What? Oh, is this just how you solve like neighborhood disputes? Like this is a Dutch vendetta? Or you're just like, I'm declaring Dutch vendetta against you. I'm going to explode your front door? You guys need better coping mechanisms, like better... Okay, have you tried talking it out? Dutch people go to therapy, am I right? Yes. Yes. You guys need better coping mechanisms, like better... Okay, have you tried talking it out? Dutch people go to therapy, am I right?

Yes. Get them... No, okay, they do just say vendetta in Dutch. There you go. Oh no! Blood rock! Is that like a blood feud? Blood revenge!

That's good. Oh, that's nice. Okay. That's f***ing talking. I'd watch a movie feud? Blood revenge. That's good. Oh, that's nice. Okay. That's very fucking talking. I'd watch a movie called Blood Revenge. Yeah. Hell yeah.

A guy lighting a firecracker on the cover? Yeah. Heavy fireworks. Police reported that in most cases, heavy professional fireworks are often used with flash powder as a charge. Psycho. This explosive mixture is found in cobras, among other things. Kind of firework? It's kind of firework, yeah, but there's no capital letter there, so it looks like it is just the snake. Occurring in nature. Flash powder and heavy fireworks.

Flash powder and heavy fireworks. The Minister of Justice and Security, David Van Wiel has said that it is quote, a big problem, which is occurring throughout the country. He also pointed out that this is a trend that is also prevalent in other European countries. Both hands out, palms up. They're doing it in Germany too. They're in Germany too. Austria, Germany, all of them. Everyone's exploding stuff. You're hearing it more and more.

No, it's just you. You know they're acting like we're the only country with fireworks, where people let them off, you know? Frankly think it's unfair. A commission led by Rotterdam mayor Carola Schutten is investigating the growth in the number of explosions and will develop plans to combat this. There's always just some high rubs being like we've got to stop doing this. Dutch people, we've got to stop doing this and they're like No. There's no way to prevent this says only country where this regularly happens. Yeah.

What are the plans for combating this? I think the fucking cat's out of the bag. Like, you can't, once this has started, there's no stopping it. You're not going to be able to take this away from people. It's deep in there. It's Benelux psychology. You can't, you can't stop these people. It's in their fucking DNA now.

And does the combating involve like waiting to hear a loud bang and then saying, let's get over there. Monitoring local loud bang Facebook groups. And then like scolding people when you get there. Hey, don't do that again, please. Yeah, start more Facebook groups around the Netherlands. And then it's like, did you see a strange man outside? Someone should call the police.

Loud bang on Bernhoofstrat? Anyone else hear this? We all did and it's constant. Quote, somehow there's a kind of acceptance in it, said Van Wiel. Well, let's hang an explosive on someone's front door. That will scare them. We have to get rid of that. It's just a matter of time before more people die or are injured in these kinds of attacks.

I mean, the logic there is pretty sound. Hanging an explosive on someone's front door will scare them. So like they're not wrong. That spooked me a little bit. It would totally scare me. I get scared by hearing like three car doors close outside my house at a time. I'm not expecting Oh, yeah, if I hear a noise outside, I'm at the window I'm turning the lights off inside so no one can see me outside. I'm going through the blinds good upset

Yeah No, if you if you live in a very very quiet suburban location Like I do and like I'm assuming Lucy does given that she lives in Tasmania. It's all like that. I live in the loudest possible place. There are no noises that can scare me now. There's a bunch of like 19 year old drift rats that like live near where I am where they're really stupid like souped up Japanese performance cars that love doing laps very late at night. And I don't even hear it anymore.

When I hear someone making loud noises with their car, oh, it makes me mad. It makes me angry. Yeah. I got to, this is so, it's not very like me and I don't know whether I, I feel mixed feelings about it, but I got, I called someone a dickhead the other day. Oh yeah. Cause it was late at night and some fucking shitty teen on a shitty, one of those rental app scooters was going at like 25 Ks an hour along the foot path in a part that was not like particularly well illuminated while I had the dog.

And I assumed they would have slowed down when he got close to us, but he didn't. He kept going at full speed. And then he almost took out Louis because I don't think he saw him. So I had to kind of pull him out of the way at the last second. And then the guy kept going and just sort of did a, Oh, sorry. Oh, he's way past. And I was like, Oh, you're dickhead. It felt amazing.

You know what, that is dickhead behavior. But I didn't, I didn't approach him with an honest and open heart. I didn't, I didn't think about it in terms of he was a young guy out on, I guess that would have been a Friday night, you know, probably had a couple of drinks, got on a scooter, was probably feeling the wind in his hair. He's thinking I'm the king of the footpath. I'm the king of the footpath. Maybe I, maybe that's right.

I hope he learns his lesson, but I was also a little part of it was like, oh no, he's going to come back and bash me now because I called him a dickhead. But my dog will kill him. So we'll be fine. Would Louis kill someone? No, I think he would try and lick his face probably even if he was kicking me to death. ANP's numbers only include incidents in which explosions went off. Considering that these have the biggest impact on the surrounding area, yeah. Yeah.

Okay. You're not tracking the lack of explosions? Not tracking hypothetical explosions? Absence of explosion count would probably not be as impactful. The ANP has also noted the street, place, date and type of location that the explosions went off in. Car, business, home. Yes. The three kinds it can be.

These are only the explosions reported by the media or police. The actual number could be even higher. And you're not checking the Facebook groups. Probably. Check the Facebook groups. Also, now that they're happening all the time, people probably just don't even bother reporting them anymore. Well, you wouldn't.

Like, what's that bang? Probably someone's door getting exploded. I don't have any beef with anyone, so it's not mine. Just accepted it as the fabric of their society. Well, no beef with anyone that you know. Sometimes you only find out once your door has exploded. It's true. Someone's getting blood revenge on me.

The guy on the scooter found out where I lived. If your door exploded and you had no idea why, that would probably be a bad sign. We cover bad signs in Omen's Importance. You shall see hail fall from a clear sky and burn as fire upon the ground. You shall see darkness cover Egypt when the sun climbs high to noon. And you shall know that God is God and bow down to his will. This was sent into us on Twitter by the Twitter user, GivePalestine a nuke. Uh, this is from KOAA in Colorado. Oh, like give the nuke to Palestine. Yeah.

Not as in like use it on Palestine, I think. Yeah, I'm assuming. A Costilla County Sheriff warns residents to be aware of surroundings following possible animal attack. Okay. So far so good. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation, CBI, in collaboration with the Costilla County Sheriff's Office is investigating a possible animal attack

in the Sangre de Cristo ranches. The Blood of Christ ranches. Okay. Cool. Yeah. The Sheriff's Office says that the alleged attack could be responsible for the death of one person, but they are awaiting for results from the El Paso County Coroner's Office for the official cause of death. As of now, they are unaware what type of animal could be responsible for the attack.

Chupacabra. Oh, you got a Bigfoot Chupacabra? Well, I was leaning. Chupacabra. You got a Bigfoot Chupacabra? Well, I was leaning towards Chupacabra. Something. Yeah. I don't know if you get Chupacabras in Colorado. I don't know about the territory of the Chupacabra. You don't think they can migrate? They probably do, right?

Probably climate change is probably moving the Chupacabra. Either that or Mexican Bigfoot. Colorado. climate change is probably moving the chupacabra. Either that or Mexican Bigfoot. What would he sound like? Number one, sombrero, but he's fashioned it himself out of reeds and such. You know, it's charming, frankly. You look at it and you think, it's not quite right, but a lot of love went into that. You know, some wildflowers braided through it. It's kind quite right, but a lot of love went into that. You know, some wild flowers braided through it. It's kind of beautiful. Sometimes it's the imperfections that makes things beautiful.

That's how you know it was made. That is so true. By Mexican Bigfoot's own hands. Long mustache, longer than normal Bigfoot's mustache. Yes. You know, obviously he is entirely covered in hair, but just the mustache parts are much longer themselves. Yep.

Uh, and hair across his chest, like matted diagonally in bandoliers in a bandolier resembling kind of form. And to be honest, that part's just a coincidence. Do you think it might be a sort of like a specific type of person from which you draw the imagery of the Mexican? As of now, oh sorry, I already said that. So they don't know what type of animal could be responsible for it. The Costilla County deputies and CBI officials, quote, hiked to the immediate area, but were able to find any animal identification. The Sheriff's Office warns residents in the area to remain aware of their surroundings.

For what? I don't like how vague this is. Like what happened to the person? What the fuck happened that made you go, definitely an animal attack. No fucking idea what sort of animal it could be. There was no sign of an animal. No one likes to get the official warning from the police to keep your head on a swivel. Yeah, for something. But who knows what? You know what I'm thinking? Vampiros.

It's vampires. Mexican vampires. Mexican vampire. Hello. All of the sexiness of the vampire with a little Mexican flair. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. And he's a hot blooded Latino. This animal is out there somewhere, maybe if it is an animal, whatever it is, is out there somewhere in nature. We talk about nature in Nature Corner. This is a press release from Johns Hopkins University.

Don't know something? Apes can tell. Fuck. What? Yeah, it's shattered my confidence around apes. No kids, we're skipping that enclosure. These guys don't know how to say I'm on Teato. Skipping that enclosure kids, just keep on walking.

This guy doesn't know where his Berkistan is. Oh my god, we're walking up and all the apes are just like tapping each other on the shoulder. And whispering at each other. And nodding towards us. They don't know. To get treats, apes eagerly pointed them out to humans who didn't know where they were. A seemingly simple experiment that demonstrated

for the first time that apes will communicate unknown information in the name of teamwork. Is that teamwork or is that wanting a treat? The study also provides the clearest evidence to date that apes can intuit another's ignorance and ability thought to be uniquely human. Okay. That's kind of, apes have theory of mind.

I feel like there's a lot of conflicting evidence on apes having theory of mind. Like I've read about a lot of stuff that kind of- Oh, are you familiar with the literature? Yeah, I am familiar with the literature. Sort of goes against this idea that like in this case, maybe they don't have theory of mind. Maybe they just, they want to the treat and they want you to get them the treat and there's no- The treat's over there by the way. Like, so there's thought. Oh, you think maybe they're blindsiding it? That they don't actually understand it, but they are able to replicate the steps as if they did?

Yeah. I think the humans are kind of drawing, the humans are drawing a line here between, yeah, the chimps going, I want the treat and I'm just pointing at the treats. Well, we're projecting kind of a human cause and effect chain on them that maybe they don't have. It's a pretty well designed experiment though. I'll let you guys be the judge, but Lucy, why are you familiar with the literature on this? What do you mean you've been reading studies about this?

I've just been reading about ape studies. What are you talking about? Is that a crime? You never just read about ape studies? In what context? Is this a like- Never want to know more about the inner workings of the noble ape? You're scrolling your phone at 2 AM because you're not sleeping?

You're scrolling your phone at 2am because you're not sleeping. I just came across some article about how a lot of ape studies are flawed and we think that apes are smarter than they are. I don't know. Look, everyone's got interests. I'm not being accusatory. I'm delighted. This is amazing. We're more of a sort of a diarrhea podcast than we are like a science podcast, you know?

Well, it's time to switch it up late in the game. That's true. I'm going to have to look up science in the dictionary. The work by researchers with Johns Hopkins universities. That's annoying. You got three S's on the ends there. Johns Hopkins universities. It doesn't roll out off the tongue nicely.

No, it's cacophonous. Johns Hopkins University's Social and Cognitive Orange Group, published today in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, PNAS. Johns Hopkins Assistant Professor of Psychological and Brain Sciences, Chris Crepegne and co-author Luke Townrow, a Johns Hopkins PhD student, worked at three male bonobos, Neoda, 25, Kanzi, 43, and Tico, 13. All living at Ape Initiative. It was like a TikTok house for apes. A research and education nonprofit. I'm more interested to watch a sitcom

with the three of these. Neoda, Kanzi, and Tico? Yeah, 13 year old, 25 year old, 43 year old. Oh, I bet the dynamic in there is crazy. Cause you know, Tico, he's young. He's crazy. Kanzi. Yeah, Tico's crazy.

Old and comogically. And Nyota is sort of like the audience insert. Like he's the relatable one. Yeah. He's kind of like the Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Nyota's kind of like the Jerry Seinfeld of Ape Initiative. Yeah.

I'm picturing this as like maybe, Nyota is kind of like the Jerry Seinfeld of Ape Initiative. Yeah. I'm picturing this as like maybe a King of Queens kind of situation where Nyota is the one in the middle, the, uh, Kevin. James? Kevin James. The Kevin James. Tico is maybe his son, his ne'er do well son, and he has to live with his father, Kanzi, and he's got to kind of put up with it all. He's getting it from all sides, you know? He's trying to

teach his son, but his old-fashioned bonobo father, always coming in, delivering the wrong lessons. He's got a hot bonobo wife. You wouldn't believe it. She's really hot. Weirdly, like... A lot of the time, you're like, what does she see in him? Well, he's got a big heart I don't guess ultimately has a very big heart and that's what matters

during the experiment one of the bonobos would sit with town row facing each other across the table the bonobo would watch as a second person placed a treat a grape or a cheerio under one of three cups sometimes town row could see where the treat was going, sometimes he couldn't. The bonomo could have the treat if Townrow could find it. Whether or not Townrow saw where the treat was hidden, he'd say, where's the grape?

And then wait 10 seconds. That's what I say to my cat. Where's the grape? Where's your bowl? Where's your bowl, little fella? I say. If he'd seen the treat being hidden during the 10 seconds Where's your bowl? Where's your bowl, little fella? I say. If he'd seen the treat being hidden during the 10 seconds, the ape would usually sit

still and wait for the treat. Yeah, I know what we both know where the fucking treat is, dude. But when Tanro hadn't seen where the treat was hidden, the ape would quickly point to the right cup, sometimes quite demonstratively. It's there, motherfucker. Look, look right there. You dumb cunt. You dumb bitch. It's there motherfucker! Look! Look right there! You dumb cunt! You dumb bitch! It's in that one! It's in that one! That's where the treat is, shithead! Their fingers would point right through the mesh. It was clear that they were trying to

communicate, Crepenye said. One, Kanzi, who was very food motivated, would point repeatedly in certain phases of the experiment. He'd tapped several times to get our attention and was quite insistent about it. I know another 43 year old who's very food motivated. Are you 43? Yeah. I swear your 40th was last year. Time keeps on slipping into the future. It does, doesn't it?

And I do like my snacks. And I point quite insistently when I want one. Eleanor just look at you like yeah I know I saw where it went. The work is the first replicate in a controlled setting similar findings from the wild that suggests chimpanzees will vocalize to warn group mates ignorant to potential threats such as a snake. Quote we predicted that if apes are really tracking ignorance when their partners lack knowledge, they will be pointing more often and more quickly.

And that's exactly what they did, Crepenio said. How could the bonobo possibly know that he doesn't? Are we saying that they have like a woman's intuition? Ape's intuition. I think that they can just track the eye line and be like, oh, he didn't see the tree go into the cup, so he doesn't know. So they, that's a level of- They're smarter than us. Not only are they as smart as us, we're positing that apes are smarter than us.

You're saying you wouldn't be able to interpret whether or not someone knew something was somewhere from seeing them look at it? I'd just like to take a moment to apologize. No, I'm on a spectrum there. I don't really watch people's eyes generally. I just try to look away from them as much as possible. I'd like to apologize to Kanzy and also our listeners. I am in fact 42. I will be 43 this year though.

Yeah, okay. You can't round up. You're not a fucking 11-year-old. It's the information I've stored. You're kind of a loose track. Yeah. I'm six. Well, I will be in three weeks. I'm 42 going on 43. Yeah. The results also suggest apes can simultaneously hold two conflicting worldviews in their mind. They know exactly where the food is and at the same time they know that their partner's view of the same situation is missing that information. That's fucking crazy.

Isn't that cool? I'm not, I'm not buying it. I'm sorry to be an ape skeptic. You reckon this is a pilot trick of some kind? Yeah, it's a pilot trick. I'm not buying the bonobos and all that. Yeah. Oh, you think you're so smart bonobos. Yeah.

As if, as if. I'm not sure. Ape-lastic. Yeah, as if, as if. I'm not sure. Ape-lastic. Fuck. Next, the team will work to more deeply explore the apes' motivations and how they think about other individuals' minds. I would love to know that.

Grape is the motivation. Yeah. They are that in one word, really. What we've been shown here is that apes will communicate with a partner to change their behaviors at Town Road. But a key open question for further research is whether apes are also pointing to change their partner's mental state or their beliefs. That seems very abstract.

That seems quite abstract for the bonobo who wants a grape, but you know. Changing their partner's beliefs. Keep funding the sciences. That's good. Yeah. Well, you know, this is definitely being funded by like the Department of Defense and they're going to weaponize it. Oh yeah.

They're just looking to weaponize it. 100%. Are you going to be fucking militarized, mechanized war apes in the next big conflict? It's either that. Drone warfare? If they had have got here earlier, we could have had ape missionaries going door to door, changing people's beliefs.

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