Boonta Vista - UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE: Situational Awareness

Episode Date: March 17, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Vort to Vista. It's a bonus episode and we are here at the Iowa Caucus. It is chaos. They have completely screwed this up. All the computers are crashing. They can't find any of the paperwork and they've completely messed up the numbering of our bonus episodes. Oh, we don't... that's how it happened. they can't find any of the paperwork and they've completely messed up the numbering of our bonus episodes. Oh, we don't, we can't, th th th thi th. We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the bonus episode. It. It. It's the bonus episode. It. It. It's the bonus episode. It's the bonus episode. It. It's to to to to to to to to to to completely messed up the numbering of our bonus episodes. Oh, we don't... that's how it happened. We can't we can't figure it out. We don't know is this like 134 a bonus or is it like if this was sequentially then all the other ones to be out of whack. We were trying to figure that out today and the Democratic National Party has... well I feel like that by that by the the th the th th. the th. th. th. th. th. th th thi thi thi they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're thi they're they're they're th. that thirty thi thi thi thirty thirty thirty thirty tho. tho. tho. tho. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi thi thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that. that. that. that. I can't that. that. that. that. that that that that. thate that's that's that's that like that by the popular vote it's 134. Yeah, well, as far as within like members within party of Buentevista. That's beside the point. What does the popular vote indicate?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Well, I mean, just who's, I mean, what option's got the most votes behind it? Okay, cool. What does that indicate though? So maybe the most popular option among people that are... Oh, you think the popular vote indicates the most popular option? Oh, okay, buddy. I'm just saying that it works just fine without some layer of abstraction, but I'm hearing some voices... So you've got a different option there, Ben. Yeah, let me, it's very straightforward.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Even though we both believe that 134 is the correct bonus number for this. Wait, wait, we've all got theories. Let's say you've got 100 people, right? Yeah. And 60 people say they like oranges. Now what you do is you, I would immediately flip a coin. I'd flip a coin. Well now what you want to do is you want to put this through some sort of inscrutable algorithm and then you find out that actually 65 out of a
Starting point is 00:02:19 hundred super delegates prefer oranges and then that's how you find out the one that's the most popular. Right, okay I'm not I'm not quite following. Okay so you turn yeah and then once that's and then you've got and in the end delegates so and when do we all get corralled into like small square areas like we're a cross between cattle and cats? Oh, that's happening the entire time. Oh, okay. So where I am standing right now is important to the process.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yes, but you will be asking that. Six to seven times. Okay. You've been standing on the oranges side this whole time. Yeah, that's not gonna work for me. Oh yes to be to be sort of fussed and pushed around in a gymnasium, you know, that's democracy. I listen to the most recent episode of that New York Times podcasted daily where they had some reporters at one of the
Starting point is 00:03:22 caucuses or one of the, I don't know what a fucking individual thing of that is called. A cork. Yep, there it is. One cork, many corkuses. I think it's just a like a cork and then you're talking about corkas. That's the plural. Not sure. One cork, many corkis. That's the plural. Not sure. One cork many caucus. Yep,
Starting point is 00:03:47 that makes sense. And they just had lots of audio of like, you know, someone that was a Yang person realizing he didn't meet the threshold and then going to over to Biden supporters to try and convince them to come back or like whatever. And it's great. Just a whole bunch of people being like, hey, Hunter Biden got this job for doing nothing. And then Biden supporters being like, oh, oh, did you fact check that? Did you, have you fact checked that? Rehitt's veracity?
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Starting point is 00:04:55 Okay. So Barnaby Joyce did a little leadership challenge. He had a little crack at it. He was like, hey, look, hey, my career, hey. Look, the thing about my career is, the only way it can go is up. And that's why you should get on board the Barnaby train now. That seemed to be the essence of the argument he was making was like, yes, I have done many terrible things. I'm clearly a person who is completely devoid, morals, ethics, any sound sense of judgment.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But I've had two years of not being the deputy prime minister to think about that. And now- appetite for the task at hand. Well, he described it as now having the personal infrastructure in place to handle all of this and I think by that he means his second family. Oh boy. Yeah. And as many people have pointed out, it's a cool politics world when you are just pulling back like the people that were originally already deposed for being massively like hit by scandals.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like you're just dredging the bottom of an extremely shallow radioactive lake, seeing if something new would come up. But it says Barnaby again, baby. Yes, flopping around like a dirty carp at the bottom of the river, you know? So yeah, the reason that he put his hand up for that of course was because Deputy Leader of the Nationals Bridget McKenzie has finally resigned in the wake of the sports roats scandal. Spots. Spots. Sproats. Sproats. Sproots. You've been spraughted. They've just been sp roaute. Sproats. Sprots.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Sproats. You've been sproaute. They've just been sproding all over the place. So she's finally resigned, but has very helpfully done it like 18 days after it started being a thing. And now everybody's dug into it way more and indicated like just basically wide-ranging corruption. It went on for so long with journalists started looking into other grants programs and finding that they're all probably fine like the the nationals infrastructure program
Starting point is 00:07:21 where they gave their stuff to because 94% of recipients were in liberal held seats. So that's cool. It's fine they were probably all eligible. So she has resigned and that triggered the reshuffle of the cabinet and people running for the deputy leadership. Matt Canavan, the smartest, sentient stone in Parliament, said, hey, I'm throwing my hat in for Barnaby and I'm going to quit my fucking portfolio. And I went, oh, Barnaby doesn't have the numbers for this at all.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And he went, ugh. Well, can I just say, Matt can't a van. Sorry, you can say that. Well, you can say it. I mean legally you can say that. Okay. Yep. I wish you wouldn't.
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Starting point is 00:09:37 That's almost definitely all. Um, no. Scott Morrison, more like Scoff Morrison. More like, more like Scott Morris off. I heard you laugh just then. I didn't know, they were clearing my throat. Oh look, it's priceless vintage comedy and that's what you came for. Peter Dutton, more like Peter Dutt off. That makes no sense. Okay, well, that's, well and that's what you came for. Peter Dutton? More like Peter Dutt off. That makes no sense. Okay, well that makes no sense at all. I'm not getting involved. So, well technically you're pretty involved.
Starting point is 00:10:17 There is complicit. We're making recorded evidence of your involvement right now. I mean, I feel like I made recorded evidence of my stance on the issue. Yeah, that you're here being involved. Anyway, so that has happened and also somewhat surprisingly, Richard Dinnitali suddenly resigned as the leader of the Greens. Over the summer break, apparently he had been putting some thought into it and deciding, hey, does being a leader of a political party rock or does it suck the big one? And I think he decided that it does in fact.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The big one, it sucks it. You know? Ask not for whom the big one. Absolutely not. They. Yeah, yeah, it sucks for thee. So, um, so Adam Bant has been elected. I think it's pronounced Adam B and T. It is pronounced Adam B and T. You are correct. Bacon and tomato.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It's his favorite sandwich. Every time I... No bread. I'm like a PLT with no lettuce. Thank you very much. A but. So yeah, he's the leader of the Greens now. And this is sending Samlar me to media into a frothy frenzy of anti-communist McCarthy-type action,
Starting point is 00:11:49 except that they're really bad at it, and that's what makes it funny. What did the Daily Mail have to say about this, Ben? Well, you know what the Daily Mail is like. Actually, if both of you could avert your eyes from the document for now. All right. We're going to play a little mini game. Each of my eyes, my right eye is looking off to the right of the screen and my left eyes looking off to the left of the screen. Yeah. Like the guy that gets chainsawed at the start of Scarface. Yeah. Ah. You know how the Daily Mail has that unique tick where they choose one word from a headlight headline headline to light light light light light light light light light. to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiol- like. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, thi. thi. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. Each. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. theeateateate. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. theole. I's. the. I's. I'm. I'm the. E. I'm the. E. I'm tick where they choose one word from a headlight headline to put in all caps. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I'm going to read... It's called Flair, Ben. Sure. I'm going to read this headline to you and I want you both to guess which is the word they've decided to do all caps on this one. This is the headline. The anti-Australian! Exclamation mark.
Starting point is 00:12:50 How extreme left-winger and anti-coal zealot, Adam Bance, election as Green's leader will change the country as we know it. And why hard-working Aussies should be afraid. What are your guesses? Who want us... To me, it's a dead heat between anti-Australian and extreme. Hmm, Theo, what are you thinking? Can I have it again? The anti-Australian!
Starting point is 00:13:16 Uh-huh. How extreme left-winger and anti-coalzealate, Adam Bann's selection as Greensleader will change the country as we know it? And why hard-working Aussies should be afraid. I'm gonna go with left-winger just as a bit as a bit of a... That's just the dark horse option. Dark horse option. Andrew I'm gonna need a definitive answer from you. Oh well um... I'm going to go with extreme. You're absolutely right it It is indeed how extreme! Eam, he, eem, left-winger and anti-coal zealot, Adam Bans selection of screens, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:13:53 that a fun idea to consider. This guy, this fucking guy, get this, he hates digging up and burning coal. Well, this idea will be explored in the article, which is just as hysterical as that headline. Here we go. The Green's new leader thinks Scott Morrison is a, quote, threat to life, wants the coal industry to be shut down and insists Australia day should be scrapped. Okay. At a band was today elected unopposed to take over from Richard, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. Well, their. Well, their. Well, their. Well, their. Well, their. Well, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to their. th. thii. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. the, the, the. theole, theole, the. theole, the. theole, thiole, thiole, their thiole, th Okay. Adam Bant was today elected unopposed to take over from Richard D. Natale, who resigned to spend more time with his family.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The 47-year-old MP for Inner City Melbourne, who once called for the overthrow of capitalism, will use his new platform to advocate higher taxes, more welfare and the end of Australia's most lucrative industries. Kowala hunting. Mr. Bant, who has attended anti-adani protests, has long called for the end of the coal industry, despite it providing 50,000 jobs and $5 billion in royalties per year. As part of his staunch anti-coal stance,
Starting point is 00:15:04 the new Greens leader has supported menacing protesters who have caused chaos around the country. I have never menaced anybody. But you have protested. Interesting. In October last year, Mr. Bant slammed the police for the way they dealt with protesters at the International Mining and Resources Conference in Melbourne. The protesters... You know the thing that Resources Conference in Melbourne. The protest is true. You know the thing that we had on film with cops just punching people on the back of the
Starting point is 00:15:31 head? Oh and the guy that had the EDA Dick hippie sticker on his body cam and the cop that was flashing the white power okay, the symbol thing. Yeah, you know what I loved about that one? Spray when they weren't resisting. Yeah, I loved about the- When they shoved around that journalist Who was trying to comply with orders? Mm-hmm. Sorry, I watched that person in the back, if I remember correctly as well.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah, ran an old guy over with a horse. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, the horsethat was when the cop was doing the white power sign at some people take a photo of him. And people started circulating the image on Twitter saying, hey, what's up with the cop at the protest doing the white power sign to me. And the police said, it's definitely not the wide power sign. No, I mean that's an internet thing and this guy's like wouldn't be part of that culture, wouldn't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Anyway, time to take a big sip of coffee and not check their social media whatsoever. Yeah, and so they looked at his social media and there was like a whole bunch of fucking Pepe the Frog. Well his yeah his avatar was Pepe the Frog. Just all all absolutely classic like alt-right shit all over his Facebook and they said like NPC memes and shit and they and the cops went oh we have made him delete some posts that we found disappointing. Problem solved. Because, you know, look, if there's one thing, if there's one thing that really strikes fear into the hearts of corrupt and brutal cops out there, it's the idea that when their
Starting point is 00:17:19 behavior is discovered, someone, someone out there one day is finally going to swoop down on them, pointed them and say, look I'm not mad, I've just disappointed, and then leave. So you know, problem solved. Problem solved. It was all good. It was all good. So it is, it is horrifying to hear that Adam B&T was Blum, blum solved. It was all good. So it is horrifying to hear that Adam B&T was against the police in this scenario. The protesters tried stopped delegates from entering the conference building. And that is sick.
Starting point is 00:18:02 That is sick, indeed. Very sick. Police invied and made 12 arrests for the infants of intentionally obstructing emergency services workers. In a 3AW interview Mr. Bant said the police were heavy handed and said no matter what the police do, you cannot arrest your way out of global warming. Yeah, that seems true to me. Yeah, like so many of these articles, they seem to just present a bunch of things all in a big long line without actually trying to bring it around to something that makes him seem wrong or bad. Just stating them as simple things that we should frown at.
Starting point is 00:18:47 This guy dislikes police brutality and wants to try and curb the effects of climate change. He fucking sucks. I will wrap up my argument there. Well, the two things about this to me, are number one that like the Daily Mail and Sky News and all these guys, they just make absolutely no effort to kind of even slightly disguise their angle, which is anybody who objects to police having absolute power to brutalize anyone that they see as obstructing the fucking levers of power or the interests of big business or anybody else, anybody who would seek to obstruct that or ask for any kind of oversight or anything
Starting point is 00:19:34 literally deserves to be killed. Like, that is the sentiment that you see from this type of person on social media and that sort of thing is just like, man, they should execute a lot of them. That's like, that's like that sort of thing is just like, man, they should execute the lot of them. That's like a normal kind of thing for this type of person to say in response to this sort of stuff. And they make no effort at all to hide it here to say like, you know, presenting it as controversial to say that the police were heavy-handed while they were beating the shit out of a bunch of peaceful protesters. Um, no, it's very silly.
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Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've got it now should be mining the moon. I've got it now. I've got it now. Thank you very much for all of your help. This is also funny to me. You can't sarcastically thank us for not telling you what you were thinking in the privacy of your own brain. I absolutely can and I will. Okay. All right. Anyway, this is very funny to me in parallel with like seeing the presidential campaigns
Starting point is 00:20:49 in the states at the moment, where all of the attempts to tar Bernie Sanders are all saying, in the 80s, he said that he thinks that like, banks should be owned by the public. Yeah. During the Vietnam War, he criticized the Vietnam War for the reasons that we now criticize still Vietnam War. Everyone's like, holy shit, that's exactly what you would want any sane person to do. Oh, he voted against the Iraq War. Like, all of these things where, like, it's supposed to be this, this shocking, uh, uh, the thanks, thank thanks, thanks, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thanks, thi thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks the their their their their their their thanks the he voted against the Iraq war like all of all of these things where like it's supposed to be this this shocking revelation of like how extreme this person is and I would have thought the most reasonable people would hear it and go uh huh and also he doesn't think that like
Starting point is 00:21:40 corporations should have a monopoly on all finance and have no oversight of regulation or anything like that. Crazy. That's crazy to me. He's extreme. Controversial. Now, I will say this. They do actually make a pretty good point about something bad that Bant did, but I'll get to that. Here we go. It's not only on it's not only regarding environmental issues that Mr. Bant has caused controversy in February 2018 Mr. Bant suggested liberal Senator Jim Mollin, a former major general, was a war criminal. He told Sky News if there was a proper inquiry in an independent
Starting point is 00:22:20 inquiry into the war in Iraq Australia like there has been in other countries. I think you would find Jim Molan would probably be up for prosecution, rather than his praise for his role in the atrocities in Fallujah. Mr. Bant made the comments after saying, after saying Senator Mollon was a coward for refusing to apologise for retweeting propaganda videos by White Supremacet Britain first. Mr. Bollin threatened to sue before Mr. Bant toe Mr. Bant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant meant, Mr. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. Mollin, to. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. M. I. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. threatened to sue before Mr. Bant made a groveling apology and offered to donate to a veterans charity. He said I sincerely apologize and expressed my regret to send a Mollon and to those who have served in Australia's operational theaters and to their families and friends who are offended by my comments. Hey look I don't want to get sued either.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He should never have apologized. He should never have a big fuck up. Jim Mullen is a war criminal, and I'm sure, as Bant suggested, even a cursory look into Australia's conduct in Iraq, much the same as it did with the conduct of the US in Iraq, will probably find a whole host of atrocious war criminals committed by, knowingly by the government on the Iraqi population that we don't care about because they were brown. But live and learn, I'm sure Mr. Bant will happily call him someone else a war criminal and not apologize this time before it goes to plan.
Starting point is 00:23:30 There's some other scary stuff that he's done. Mr. Bant also support the Greens' radical social policies, including legalizing cannabis and euthanasia and introducing pill testing at festivals. Yep, so just, again, when they say radical, they mean all of the things supported by the experts that I don't agree with because I'm a big baby and I don't like it and makes me frown. Well, I'm someone that looks at the front page of the Daily Mail Australia website every day, and I'm 75 and if anything changes I shit myself and I actually read these headlines that scare
Starting point is 00:24:10 me on purpose because they're the only thing that keep my heart pumping and if I didn't do that it would just stop and I would lay down and die and no one would come to my funeral. So and just um I don't want to miss it. I think it's worth pointing out just four days ago, Queensland's Productivity Commission report basically says just legalize cannabis and MDMA. Just do it. I didn't see that. They said, was it legalizing or decriminalizing MDMA?
Starting point is 00:24:42 So they say that using and possessing cannabis and MDMA should be legalized in Queensland. Oh, oh. Imagine it? Absolutely. Criminalizing drugs has failed to cut down its use and supply. Despite this, Queensland government spends around $500 million in pros in prisons around 1,840 people per year.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So again, the war on drugs doesn't work. as well as that it's just unproductive. All of these things are true, we know them to be true, like basically everything else on this list. It's just because they have an ideological resistance to it. They will not accept this. But of course, again, presented without fact, without any kind of reference, just as something that we should disagree with. Well, as we saw this week, fucking Jim Mollon, the big war criminal himself, was
Starting point is 00:25:38 on Q&A when they were talking about bushfires and stuff, and lots of people were like, why? Why the fuck are you putting Jim Mollin on? Absolutely, you don't have to hear from them. You don't have to talk to them. They have no importance or anything to add to the discourse. Just stop doing it, to stop talking to them. Who cares? Who gives a shit? There are some people that you can't you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you that you you you you you you you you you you you you you th you th you th you th you th you th. You th. You th. You don't th. You don't th. You don't th. thi. You don't thi. thi. Absolutely. th th th th thi. Absolutely thi. Absolutely thi. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. thi. Absolutely. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. You thi to add to the discourse, just stop doing it, stop talking to them. Who cares? Who gives a shit? There are some people that you can just accept are fucking idiots and you never have to talk
Starting point is 00:26:11 to them in your entire life. Yep. But instead, we have to hear over and over from this dickhead who, you know, puts, as as was referred to earlier, puts stupid conspiracy theory, shit all over his Facebook page and all that kind of thing. And when pressed by the host of Q&A as to like when he pushes back on the idea that, you know, climate change is real and government should be doing something about it, when he pushes back on that idea, the host said, well, what evidence are you falling back on here? And he said, oh, I'm not relying on evidence. And then then then then then then then then then then to me the the the the the th to me the th to me the th to me to me th. And to me to me to me th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. And thi, the. And th. And, th. And, th. And, when th. And, when th. And, when th. And, when th. And, when th. And, when th. And, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, when he's, when th. And, when th. And, said, oh, I'm not relying on evidence.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, to me he's more like Jim Moron. I was going to say dim mole. OK, well, look, agreed to disagree. Hmm. Dumb the mole man. That's pretty good, actually. The Daily Mail is not the only person that is shitting their pants over Adam Bant. Alan Jones, the single worst living human being, took to Facebook to post this.
Starting point is 00:27:18 The Nationals Leadership Challenge may have attracted most political attention yesterday, but it wasn't the only game in town. The Greens also anointed Adam Bant as new party leader to replace outgoing leader Richard Dina Tali. Last year Bant, along with Dina Tali, was calling for new media hate speech legislation. In fact, the Greens took a communications policy to last year's federal election, which included proposed new criminal media hate speech laws designed to crack down on quote people like Andrew Bolt, Alan Jones and Chris Kenny. In other words, classify any speech which challenges green ideology as hate speech and outlaw it.
Starting point is 00:27:55 No, that wouldn't be other words. Those would be just wrong words that you've associated with it. Oh yeah, absolutely. It just happens that those three tend to be people that practice hate speech. That also simultaneously disagree with green ideology. He's definitely true in the sense that they are other words. They're different words. Yes, no, you're right. In other words, may not be.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Sure. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. When it comes to genuine hate speech, Adam Bant demonstrated again yesterday that he remains a master of it. He accused big businesses of killing people and endangering people's safety. Okay, so big business, not a marginalized section of society. It's also a true statement. Okay, so maybe you misspoke, but let's check the next example he gives. Sure. He issued a threat to big business that their days are gone.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Okay, again, I feel like my same criticism applies above, but... All right, okay. Well, let's try the next example. He accused coal, gas and oil companies of of quote, threatening human life. So again, I really feel like this is just a variation on the previous theme where both coal gas and oil companies are not a protected, not a marginalized section of society and also that statement stands on its own as something that is correct. I see, there is no pleasing you. I'll give you another example. I'm just a cranky kind of guy I think. He described the coalition government it's quote criminal for appealing Julia Gillard's carbon tax and accused Scott
Starting point is 00:29:33 Morrison of propagating a plan quote for three times as many deaths from bushfires in future. Is that hate speech? Um, I mean no. Okay. I think we just get that out of the way first before any further criticism proceeds. Okay, you say that it's not, but this following sentence disagrees, uh, by implication. Adam Bant accuses others of hate speech. Yes, that's probably the one true sentence in this. He and former Greens leader, Dina Tali, that's a very weird way that he's done the punctuation here
Starting point is 00:30:11 but that's neither here nor there, inveterate proponents of division and rancor in politics and within the community. Alan Jones. Alan Jones. Alan Jones. I feel like I feel like you I feel like you really have to get like at least one race riot behind you before you can get a feel for what an inveterate proponent of division of rancor in politics and within the community is. Just you think that like if you were maybe considered one of the leading voices that spurred on one of Australia's most prominent days of racial violence and hatred, you'd probably have like a little bit of self-awareness, like a bit.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I guess no. This mob have a PhD in hate speech and personal attacks. I'd like to see from what uni? S.J.W. University. Uh. Oh, oh, sorry. It called, um, SJWU. Huh. Uh-huh. Um, and sorry, no, I checked and I know he's probably not accepting fact checks on this, but Adam Band actually has a PhD in law and politics. I think they both, from Monash.
Starting point is 00:31:39 They are actually both doctors. I think he's making a little bit of a joke there. Oh, oh, I see. So think he's making a little bit of a joke there. Oh, I see. Right, so they've both studied for a minimum of seven years. Hate speech. Seven years of learning to do hate speech against oil and gas companies. Okay, no, but again, it just says here, law and politics. Okay, well it's hate speech. On policy, nothing in their vocabulary except two words, climate change.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So how do you do... I mean, if you only had those two words, I feel like you would have a hard time doing a hate speech against someone. Yeah, I think so. Hey, you! Climate change. Ah, fuck, he got me. You're a real climate change, pal. No, it doesn't sound like hate speech when I say it like that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Just on the topic of like, taking a communications policy to the election, which included proposed new criminal media hate speech laws. Um, I'm sure I'm not the only person who would... which included proposed new criminal media hate speech laws. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would like to see, you know, more of a forceful effort from any particular government to counteract some of this kind of stuff because I think we're all kind of on the same boat now, I would hope we're all kind of on the same boat now that we've definitely, society as a whole, or like media as well seems to have slipped way too far over to the right in terms of the arguments that we will entertain as though they are a real thing. Things that we used to say,
Starting point is 00:33:21 fuck off to people for talking about. Yeah and I mean I feel like so even like Greg Jericho was talking today about how even the IPA is slipping from being just a bunch of like vainglorious libertarian dipshits to being just actively harmful and ready to go on TV and just lie? Yeah, yeah, and like, in a weird way, did either of you guys see the Starbucks ad that was going around on Twitter? No, I made an active decision not to watch it because I'm not a fucking room. Hey, you guys seen the latest Starbucks ad? You guys seen the latest, you know how I'm a big Starbucks commercial guy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Uh-huh. Um, nothing I like more on a Friday night. I go over to my cabinet and I pull open the big roll top. And I start to just playfully trace my fingers along all the different DVDs of Starbucks ads through the years that I have obtained for myself. Remember when they just put a TV show that was just a sequence of ads altogether? And people would all just sit there and watch... The World's Greatest Commercials.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I watched a sequence of ads in order like the... I genuinely was thinking about the concept to myself recently. It was because they had a dog on it. We all just, I think part of our brain just cracked on the lake. Check out this dog. Um, no, I've been thinking about this because like, uh, now I'm becoming old and my kids, uh, my kids like watch shit on iPads and they have streaming services and stuff. So on the rare occasion that either we have an internet outage for like a couple of days or something which we did recently because the hailstorm, the big psycho hailstorm that came
Starting point is 00:35:15 through Camberra smashed the part on the outside of my house where the phone line connected to my house. Yeah this is after everything burnt down. Yes. Yes. And the phone line connected to my house. And this is after everything burnt down. Yes, yes. And then the hailstorm. And then the hailstorm. And now we're back to fire. So everything's cool again, don't worry.
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Starting point is 00:36:15 And we try to explain to them, oh, what you used to do is watch whatever shit is what you their is their is their is their is their is throat at that particular time slot. And if there was something you really liked, what you did was you memorized the day of the week it was on and what time it was on, and then you had to be present at the TV for it to happen. And I was remembering, remember watching a show that was just a compilation of ads and then they'd take breaks and show you other ads. We were so stupid. Oh, it was a simpler, dumber time, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Oh, God damn. I feel like all of that idiocy has like seamlessly integrated into YouTube, because you could very happily right now go to YouTube and just find compilation of ads from the 90s 90s Australian TV commercials and you'd see the McCain's Marge the Rains are here you'd see it all you'd see it all you'd see it's a old mate from Ozzy home loans oh see a lot do you want to do the voice at Ozzy we'll save you. That's pretty good. Very good.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Anyway, Starbucks ad, right? Starbucks ad, it's trending. It's trending. And the conceit of the ad, much in this current fashion that we really don't like, where you watch an ad, and it's like, you know, a little moving short film about like parents that are getting divorced and the kid is like, man, my life is changing. And then, you know, one of the parents is like, I'm going to take you to the beach where we used to swim as a family and I will hold you in the water and we will be as one.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And it's like, Westpac Bank, we'll give you a home loan for when you divorce your your. People love to post them on Twitter and be like, I didn't even know this was an ad until the very end. And I get like one shot into this and there's an out of focus Renault badge. I'm like, it's an ad for Renno. Yeah. Like, I can't believe you would watch more than like 15 seconds of this. No, I understand where people are saying. thi, I. thi, I. thi, I. thi, I, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu this was this was th. this was th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus thus thus thus thus thus thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th from in that sense. I don't think that people are saying I didn't understand the concept of a commercial until the final frame of this thing. I think a lot of the time what
Starting point is 00:38:31 people are saying was I had no idea what this is going to be for until the very end and I think a lot of the reason that people are expressing that surprise is because of how cynical it reads as like they their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I th. I th. I th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I it reads ads. Like they're doing these really high production value things and it's very clearly intended to be like emotional and personal and everything and in the end it's like get a fucking iced frapay at Starbucks. So the Starbucks one again very similar production values to those other things, very emotional kind of thing. And the conceit of the ad is a young person, a young, very androgynous person,
Starting point is 00:39:15 being called out to and introduced to all these people over and over and over again, there's Jess. And then, at the end, this person orders a coffee at Starbucks and they call out his name James. And James smiles, and it's like, I've finally been recognized as a real human by the Starbucks Corporation. Yeah, and this is one of those times where I'm like, obviously, if you are a trans person and
Starting point is 00:39:45 you watch that and you said, that makes me feel nice, great. I'm obviously I'm not trying to take away anything from anybody who has felt something positive through some form of representation in media or anything like that. But like, it's just so hard to ever watch anything like that and just not feel the fucking waves of cynicism coming off the thing. And we were talking about like we were talking on the last episode about an ad for a fucking working at a digital marketing place and Ben is very very very perplexed by like people who get up in the morning and go, I'm going to go to my digital marketing agency and change the world.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I mean, I feel like as a, you know, as a digital warlord in his previous life. You get up and you sharpen your cyber blade, you know, for your digital warfare. I cannot help the feeling that the people who made this ad were absolutely congratulating themselves and saying, we are doing a massive, like, meaningful, socially progressive thing. This is more meaningful than us paying our taxes. Yes, we should absolutely be congratulated for this thing. We will not be raising wages to $15 an hour for any of the trans people who work for us, but we will write your preferred name on our cup.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And doesn't that mean something to you, you know? Just depressing stuff. And the thought that I came away from that thing with was, you know who I would like to hear making messages like that? It's like the fucking government of the country that you live in. That's who I want to hear saying like... I can, like maybe even if like just in like the Prime Minister's office they were like signs on the toilet so like, hey, it doesn't matter what gender you are, you use the one that, you know, feels appropriate to you, you
Starting point is 00:41:48 know, something like that? Bad news for you. Huh? I said I've got some bad news for you about the Prime Minister's office. And what's this? Oh, well it's a good thing we don't live in a country where the Prime Minister would personally intervene to make sure that there weren't any signs in the vicinity of his office saying just use the bathroom the comfortable using. But yeah, like, the thought that I was left with was, the body that I want to hear championing this kind of stuff and telling the citizens of the country that you live in to treat each other with respect and dignity and like you know like running a campaign to say hey you know what
Starting point is 00:42:34 it's actually like not any skin off your ass to like use somebody's preferred name or pronouns or whatever stop being a dick and just be cool I would fucking love that stuff coming out of the government, but instead, we insist on having such like conservative, socially regressive governments for the last decade or more anyway. I mean, labor were fucking anti-same-sex marriage when they were in, that instead we're left with, you know, that void being filled by corporations saying, hey, this is a good thing to do, also you should probably be buying a big mocha frappuccino right about now. Doesn't this make you really thirsty for social
Starting point is 00:43:22 justice and a mochaficino? I don't think I've ever been thirsty for a mocha cappuccino. Yeah, it's just depressing to me to see like so many examples of where that void in leadership is filled by corporations. It's very depressing to me. And imagine if there was somebody running for government who was like, hey, I would actually like for the government to take a stronger role in saying these are the acceptable standards of speech, you know, in public forums and when making a case for things. Maybe somebody like fucking Alan Jones couldn't cause a race riot with his radio station without being forced to atone for it in some way beyond, I don't know. What they do like suspend him for a week, make him apologize. It's not like he went to jail or some shit. Adam Bant, what a monster.
Starting point is 00:44:16 What a monster. Yeah, comedy bastard. Someone dug up some dirt on him as well as part of all this shocking coverage. So this is a tweet from Cherished Institution Sky News Australia. This is linking to a clip from their broadcast. Political editor Andrew Clonell has revealed he knew Greens leader Adam Bant from their quote uni days saying Mr. Bant was not well liked on university campus for his left leaning views. We got a little clip there that maybe Andrew you can play. I didn't warn you about this so maybe
Starting point is 00:45:02 you can't. No no I've got it all cued up right here, pal. Let me skip to the appropriate time. You're constantly professional. That's so true. First I need to watch an ad apparently for something to do with New Zealand. So that's pretty cool. Sweet. New Zealand. Check it out if you haven't before. New Zealand, it's right over there. What if the people in Australia were nice?
Starting point is 00:45:34 New Zealand, better than the old Zealand. Anyway, here's the clip. Here's the clip. Let's not get into it. Here's the clip. Let's not get into it. Here's the clip. I actually knew Adam Bant from Unidat. He was at Murdoch University. I was at Curtain University in Perth. And he was a student politician. I was a student reporter, a student newspaper. And at that time he was with Socialist Alliance. That shows you how left wing he is, even though he ended up a lawyer. He's never been even moderate at all. And in fact the labor right people on campus used to hate at him. They used to think he was just too left wing. So he's
Starting point is 00:46:15 your classic watermelon I guess, which is a green who's really sort of a socialist, as opposed to the Bob Brown green green. So two things here. To start with, I knew him from uni days. We went to separate universities. I didn't go to university with him. Yep. But I heard from Labour right wingers, the least cool people on the planet. Two left wing for the Labour right.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Wow, you must have been slightly left of centre. Yeah, I love that he thinks that him being in the socialist alliance in uni and then going into the Greens is like some sort of gotcha. Yeah, this guy says he cares about the environment but he also cares about left-wing economic policy. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. We got him. Also like on top of all this, being like he was involved in student politics and people
Starting point is 00:47:23 found that annoying applies to every single person that has been involved in student politics. Yeah, the other thing I liked about that story was like, I was a student journalist on a student newspaper and he was a student politician in a student political party. It just makes me think of like the entire current crop of politicians and journalists and everything but like in baby muppets mode. Yeah, absolutely. Like, like they're all tiny mice that also stand on their legs and they've got little
Starting point is 00:48:02 baby clothes like made out of like denim scraps. Oh, you're talking sort of like a Stuart Little situation. Sort of a Stuart Little situation. Yeah. Yeah I'm thinking of you know things like things like like baby muppets where they've basically just said well there is an existing property and we're going to somehow make a set in the past version of it when they were all babies and also still all friends and all doing the same thing that they do as adults. I feel like you might be overthinking the movie Baby Muppets. Well number one it wasn't a movie. Well I don't know fucking.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Baby Muppets enough. Surely there's a middle ground between these two points. There is a middle ground. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It was of course a television show that first aired in 1984. Ooh, the baby Moppets universe? Baby George Orwell, certainly does. Does that imply the mumms at the same age as George Orwell? I'm weeding baby 1984. No, I think the rules of baby Muppets isn't that you're like everyone is translated
Starting point is 00:49:30 a fixed amount back in the past. I think everyone is transmuted to a baby. Yeah, everyone is there and everyone's a baby. Yeah, so even if... So like a kind of curse. Yeah, yeah, very much. I think so. I think so. So every single baby Muppet is going to hell? Oh, they've pulled a classic peanuts here. The show portrays childhood versions of the Muppets living together in a nursery under the care of a human woman, identified only as Nanny. Yeah, she's absolutely their captor. It's a misery situation. Inside this peanut situation. So explain, just, okay, sorry, Ben.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Can you explain to me all of the elements of which this is a misery situation? There's a woman who is the captor. Okay. She has abducted all of the baby muppets. Yep. And how is she keeping them there? I assume they've been hobbled. Well, see, the thing is that their legs are already felt and soft. So you try and get them in between the wooden blocks and they just flop down. And you hit them with the hammer and nothing happens. Can I just, I want to backtrack just a tiny little bit. So Theo, it is your belief that being
Starting point is 00:50:55 cursed means you go to hell automatically? Well I figure it, it's a sort of like captive soul situation without a soul you will not enter the kingdom. We have so many layers of it's a something situation deep at this stage now. It's a baby muffin situation that is also a peanut situation that is also a misery situation. Which exists in the same universe as 1984. That's also a captive soul situation. But I'm on board with Theo here. I think that he is talking about like the type of the same universe as 1984. That's also a captive soul situation. But I'm on board with Theo here. I think that he is talking about like the type of curse that takes effect immediately and must be broken. Kind of like a
Starting point is 00:51:34 kin thinner situation. Oh where it's a thinner situation. Yeah where you hit a gypsy's son with your car. And she comes and says some words that you can't make out but then no matter how much you eat your body becomes thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner but thinner and thinner but in this scenario they've become you reverse age younger instead of thing like kind of like a Benjamin Barton situation oh it's a Benjamin Button situation I think I think that's what we're talking about and the reason the reason the reason that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi the the thi thi. I the thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I thi. I'm I think that's what we're talking to and the reason let me clarify. That's a situation on the ground. What the fuck was this conversation at the start because I have completely forgot.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Let me clarify why it's a peanut situation. It's a peanut situation because it's a child childhood versions of the Muppets living together in a nursery under the care of a human woman who appears in almost every episode, but her face is never visible. Just like the grown-ups in peanuts. Oh, so it's a neighbor from home improvement situation. Well, no, that's only the bottom half of his face that's never visible. You get all of the expression of Wilson's eyes, and that's, you know, you're right. That's where all the performance the performance the performance know how in like the first like three quarters of ET
Starting point is 00:52:50 you don't see any adults faces except for the mom's face yeah it's a cool touch it's like peanuts it is it's kind of a peanut situation kind of a peanut situation kind of a peanut situation it's kind of a penis situation it's kind of a peanut situation. It's kind of a penis situation. I wonder, how did we get to a baby Muppets? Oh no, it was the student politics, student politics, student journalism. It's a baby mother's situation, you know? And now you understand what I mean by that, so we can probably move on. Speaking of baby muffets, let's check in with our friends at the IPA, who are a bunch of 16-year-olds wearing their dad's ill-fitting suits, and much like babies, they have pissed themselves.
Starting point is 00:53:34 The Institute of Public Affairs is a horrible think tank, if you're not familiar with it, and you're lucky enough to have never encountered them. They suck big time, they're paid big bucks to have the worst opinions in the world and they have decided to weigh in on the Bridget McKenzie sports wrought scandal. See this is what happens when you don't give libertarians their own like oil rigs slash island to just do libertarian ship like just we as a society have failed the libertarians by making them live in the same society as us. We should give them one micronation where they're allowed to shoot them
Starting point is 00:54:17 themselves on their illegal motorbikes. Yep or we could put them underwater in a sort of wet dome situation. The one thing I will say about like, um... the problem... Yep, or we could put them underwater in a sort of wet dome situation. Hmm. The one thing I will say about like, um, the problem, the particular problem with the IPA and everything in Australia, more than anything else, is that if at least they had like a Ben Shapiro situation where dark money paid enough for you to like set up your own media organization and you had your own media organization and you had your own website and you spent fucking eight hours a day making live
Starting point is 00:54:50 streams for for like internet pedants to jack off to or whatever while also suffering a Benjamin Button situation that's true he's got a dual situation situation situation happen over there. He's got a hot sister situation. Oh, I like, a dual situation situation, so it's sort of like a Mrs. Doubtfire situation. But at least, at least with Ben Shapiro's whole situation, he has this entire media apparatus, but it's also very self-contained. But at least, at least, at the tellifeya's whole situation. He, he has this entire media apparatus,
Starting point is 00:55:28 but it's also very self-contained and I don't have to see it. It's for people who are like, I would love to listen to four hours of Ben Shapiro doing his Stuart Little situation on a podcast every day. And I don't have to hear it, you know? Whereas the IPA seems to have this like, they're in so deep at all levels of Australian politics and media and everything, that somehow for them it is this given that they should be able to like front a representative
Starting point is 00:56:01 and be involved in every debate about everything. They keep like a counter of like days since we've been allowed on the drum. Which is getting more embarrassing as they had a day to it every time. Wow, 900 days since we've been on the drum. Pretty embarrassing for you guys. Yeah. Well, I feel like they've very, they've incorrectly identified this as a Tony Abbott situation. Because when, like, I think the thing they're trying to emulate is when people were saying that about when Tony Abbott was the prime minister and he wouldn't go on like Q&A, he wouldn't
Starting point is 00:56:37 go on any of the TV shows that are seen in Australia as being like popular impartial forums for asking politicians questions, you know? And it was like years since he had been on and he completely refused to go on like almost anything on the ABC. You want on the 730 report and stuff like that, didn't they? But they've incorrectly kind of tried to flip that around and say, ah, it's been this many hundred days since you've invited us on the show. As opposed to, we have been extending an invitation
Starting point is 00:57:13 for like 900 days now, and the Prime Minister refuses to come on and answer any questions. They're like, it's been 350 days since anyone's given a fuck what we thought about anything. Which is, like you said, Ben, a very embarrassing thing to thi. you you you you you you you you thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th thin, th th th th th th th thi, since thi, thin, thin, thin, th thin, th th thin, thin, th th thin, thin, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th thin, th thin, thin, th th thin, thin, it's been, it's been 350 days since anyone's given a fuck what we thought about anything, which is like you said, Ben, a very embarrassing thing to keep posting repeatedly onto the internet. Hmm. Yeah, it's weird. I think the Australian like media ecosystem is small enough that they, it's not like they can happily play to a couple million people on weird internet radio. Because they exist, they sort of have to be a part of everything th of th of th of th of th of th of thi the of the of the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, the- the, the, thi, the- the- the- the- the- the- thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thean, thean, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, can happily play to a couple million people on weird internet radio
Starting point is 00:57:45 Because they exist. They sort of have to be a part of everything. It's very strange Hmm also if you've seen any of the videos that they do Holy fuck Miserable stuff and the just the worst looking bunch of gronks. Oh look and we're not like about, you know? Judging people based on their physical appearance. You know traits people can't change about themselves. They their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they're they're they're they're their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their toe. toy. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. thooooooe. they're appearance, you know, traits, people can't change about themselves. They're completely off the table. We'd never make fun of Pete Buttigidge Butterfield for looking like a rat man because he can't help looking like a rat. We never make fun of the...
Starting point is 00:58:24 We'd never make fun of the people from the IPA looking like they just climbed wetly out of a vat directly into a pair of round glasses that were trendy five years ago. I can't believe I just use the word trendy. That's fucking disgusting. Every single one of them looks like a toddler that has fallen into the waste that gives people mutant powers from fallout. Yes, but no powers. But no powers.
Starting point is 00:58:54 No powers. If anything, their powers are slightly lessened. Their ability to think, their ability to lift medium weight objects. They're self-belief though, through the roof. Oh my god. So maybe FEV is really good for feeling good about yourself. Yeah, they do all basically. FV is the secret.
Starting point is 00:59:15 They all, they all essentially seem to be like clones. Like, they all seem to be sort of, slightly botched clones of the same libertarian that they're trying to pump out and each time they change the sequence a little and it comes out wrong again they go nope not quite there put him in his suit that's two sizes too big and send him to stand with the other ones. Every single time they're more translucent than the last one somehow. Yeah, running out of skin juice. It's exactly like an X-Men 2 situation. It's exactly like an X-Men 2 situation.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So they agreed that the Sports Rorts affair was a scandal, but a different scandal to what the rest of us thought. So this is from Public Affairs, Director of Research, Sorry, Institute of Public Affairs, Director of Research, Daniel Wilde. All of these titles are made up. They don't actually do anything. They just appear in poorly made videos and podcasts just saying, fucking whatever, which we would never do. The headline of the article is, as thus, Unelected bureaucrats engaged in political hit job at Labour's request.
Starting point is 01:00:27 The real scandal in the grants administered by National Senator Bridget McKenzie is that unelected bureaucrats at the Australian National Audit Office engaged in a political hit job against a conservative politician at the request of Shadow Attorney General Mark Dreyfus. The unelected bureaucrats thing to me is right up there with, um, it's right up there with like inner city elites, cosmopolitan, like, in, just in terms of the thing that is doing a very bad job of signaling what they're trying to actually say. Well it's definitely spoochers andthem- These judges and their laws. You can't just say public servants at an independent oversight body,
Starting point is 01:01:11 that's not terrifying. Unelected shadowy puppet masters pulling the strings of making sure politicians aren't ripping everybody off. Ooh. ripping everybody off. Ooh! Yeah, it goes on. The A&AO undertook its award of funding under the Community Sport Infrastructure Program audit at the request of Mr. Dreyfus, the shadow attorney general request an audit into the circumstances surrounding then liberal candidate for Mayo's funding. Man, this is riddled with typospos, funding of a local bowls club in the lead up to the 2018 by-election.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It is curious that no one in the media has questioned why in a liberal parliamentary democracy like Australia, a member of the opposition can direct unelected bureaucrats to investigate a minister of the crown. Now, I would say it's not curious in that I am not curious to answer that question at all. Dutton refer Bruce Pasco to the AFP? Yes, on account of being criminally not aboriginal and enough for his tastes, I think. My, all right, so my issue straight off the bat here is that in the space of two paragraphs, he's introduced the concept of what's happening and then reframed it as something different
Starting point is 01:02:33 in the second paragraph to make it sound like something different is happening. In the first he says, the shadow attorney general requested an audit. And in the second paragraph that immediately changes to, no one has questioned why a member of the opposition can direct unelected bureaucrats to investigate a minister of the crown. I put it to you, that much like it says in the following paragraph here, going beyond its original remit of investigating the provision of a $127,000 check thousand dollar check to the Yanker Lila Bowles Club,
Starting point is 01:03:08 they engaged in a far-reaching audit of all grants administered under the program. Now, I put it to you that everybody in the fucking country looked at the Georgina Downer thing where she was not an elected official in that in that electorate or anything yet she somehow turned up at the balls club as we said at the time with a great big fucking check with her name on it the name of her political party on it and the fact that she was a candidate and handed it over effectively saying here is a nice big bunch of money from me. Everybody in the country looked at that she was a candidate and handed it over effectively saying, here is a nice big bunch of money from me. Everybody in the country looked at that and said, huh, that seems incredibly improper and very crooked.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Also, I'm not, I don't really understand what this, I don't even know who wrote this, who's this dip shit? Daniel Wild. What he thinks the process should be, if you have a government that, um, that she was a government, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that she was that she was a that that that she was that she was that she was that that that that that that that that that that that that, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, the, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that, thatthis dip shit? Daniel Wild, what he thinks the process should be if you have a government that's been voted in that breaks the law. If the government... I think they can't, because ministers, like public servants advise, ministers decide. So they're the decider. So you get voted in and you become God king. Four years. And for you, it's like, you don't So they're the decider. So you get voted and you become God king, four years. And for you, it's like your own personal, it's sort of like the purge situation, but just for you. Well, that's certainly-
Starting point is 01:04:36 You get to do whatever the fuck you want. That is certainly the case that seems to be getting made with all of the Donald Trump impeachment trial stuff as as you have a bunch of members of the Democrats saying I'm sure that any moment now a majority of these Republicans will find their good conscience and their ethical center and vote to impeach him instead they were all applauding as fucking Alan Dershowitz got up and said hey if the president wants to do it it can't be a crime. Oh no that and said, hey, if the president wants to do it, it can't be a crime.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Oh no, that's right. His, the actual argument Alan Dershwitz made was if, if Donald Trump, in his capacity as president, engaged in an act which was designed to, like, strengthen the likelihood of himself being re-elected which he believes is in the public interest which he believes is a good thing and in the public interest then it cannot be a crime because the president was doing that he was doing something that he believed to be in the public interest look.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Look all I'm saying is Alan Dershwitz didn't see any wrongdoing and he had a pretty good view from Epstein's plane. Yep. Epstein? Oh, look, people who yell at me, oh boy. It is, it is. It is Epstein. It is.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Okay, I've just, just my brain. Yeah, and like you're saying, Ben, I mean, like this very clearly struck me as a case of an extremely, extremely idiotic and egregious example of like open graft was committed by an incredible failed daughter of a right-wing politician. This was referred to this body to say, hey, you want to just have a little sticky-beak at this? They obviously had a cursory glance at it and said, huh, I wonder if we should have a little poke-in'-a-poke-in'-in-to-a-e'-o'-o'-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th-e, th, th, th, th, th, th, th little sticky beak at this? They obviously had a cursory glance at it and said, huh, I wonder if we should have a little poke into how this person like, I don't know, how did she know that they were getting money before the member for Mayor Rebecca Shaki from the Labour Party knew? For example.
Starting point is 01:06:42 If we can investigate this though, you could very quickly find yourself in a 1984 situation. Oh no. You get an investigated left, right and center. And then it's like, you know, you've got to get someone to investigate the investigators and then you're in a watchman situation. Sorry? I can't think of another situation. I'm so sorry. I'd tried really hard. Mm-hmm. If you get trapped in a dome, you're in a biodome situation. Let's hope that doesn't happen. Anyway, the article continues. Yes. Miss McKenzie's apparent failure was that several projects which received grants to not meet the criteria established by Sport Australia, which is an unelected statutory agency. No, her apparent failure was that she deliberately put money into electorates that they wanted to win, but hey, let's just closs over that.
Starting point is 01:07:35 But this is an egregious misunderstanding of how democracy works. Bureaucrats advise ministers decide. If public servants want to decide how taxpayer funds are allocated, they should run for Parliament. Now the IPA famously loves it when politicians just spend taxpayer money with no oversight. That's like their favorite thing, right? Yeah, they love it. They love to see that happen. The mainstream Australians would much prefer an elected member of parliament to decide how their money is spent, not faceless, unelected members of the Canberra Swamp. I love seeing Australians try and import shit from American politics,
Starting point is 01:08:15 where you're like, what are you fucking talking about? Yeah, especially also considering the timing around this as well. And what the swamp term is is linked to but that's neither here nor there. No. Well I mean also they're conflicting this now with the Canberra bubble they were trying to make that a whole thing that's all that Scott Morrison bangs on about and now they're talking about the camera is it a swamp or a bubble? Is the swamp in the bubble? Are the bubbles coming out of the swamp? It's a very humid bubble. Hmm. Oh it's sort of like a the end of the fountain situation. I haven't seen it. Oh, it's a wonderful movie. Watch that. Darren Aronofsky. It's
Starting point is 01:08:52 beautiful. In reporting on the issue on Tuesday, the ABC thought they had found two fatal smoking guns. The first was the apparent revelation that the minister's office was running a parallel process to support Australia for where the grant should be allocated as evidenced by a spreadsheet leaked to and reported by the ABC. Far from a smoking gun, this spreadsheet appears to exonerate Ms. McKenzie of any wrongdoing. The spreadsheet, which this is me interjecting here, was colour coding to show which electorates the money was going to, shows that the majority of the 223 projects marked as successful in the first round of grants, went to labor held seats.
Starting point is 01:09:38 As McKenzie said, this is, quote, reverse pork barreling. Again, not real. And also, again, it was the final round of funding that was the issue because that was the one that was immediately prior to the election. Some 94 projects were in labor held seats with 87 in Leverall 35 National and 7 seats held by Independence. They put the money into seats they wanted to win. But again, we already discussed that in that episode. The second would bebe smoking gun is the $500,000 grant provided by the Pac-Num Football Club, sorry provided to the Pac-Manum Football Club, which received a rating of 50 out of 100 by Sports Australia but received the
Starting point is 01:10:15 highest possible grant. The Pac-in-Footham Football Club is in the marginal liberal seat of Latrobe. According to Sport Australia, that 500,000 would have been better provided to the Gippsland Lakes Roller Derby in the safe national seat of Gipsland, which received a rating of 98 out of 100. Only an unelected and out of touch public servant could think it is a better idea to fund the roller derby than the footie in Victoria. Okay. So they're just, all right.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Blasting right past the ratings. Besides, the ratings out of 100 are mere inventions of the bureaucracy to sign to give the process fake scientific credentials. What? Rating things, apparently, just as a general concept is bad. This is like when you get hired in the public service, you have to do a job application and answer a series of selection criteria. And then they have a panel of people or like grade your responses against those specific
Starting point is 01:11:17 selection criteria so that they can make up like a whole explanatory thing about this is why we hired this person instead of this person, so that they can be transparent and have evidence if somebody says, oh, I think you actually you know, gave this job to this person who's your mate instead of to the person who's most deserving of it. You can challenge that and you can appeal it. And oddly enough, what they use is some form of evidence for their decision-making to justify why a job went somewhere, much like they've seemed to have done here in terms of like maybe where money
Starting point is 01:11:52 you should go in these situations. But apparently that is made up science, it's mysticism, it's mumbo-jumbo. Mm-hmm. More to the point, the funding to the Pac-Num Footy Club was to build change rooms for female footballers and netballers. They love that line, man. The Woke ABC would usually celebrate. Instead, the ABC would rather play political football for the Labor party, even if it means female footy players lose out on much needed facilities. Hang on.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Identity politics is bad until now. And also, suddenly the ABC is now currently involved in this? Oh, because they reported on it. Right, the thing that where all of the scams. Didn't the, um, I feel like I'm having a memory as well of like one of the one of the groups that got a grant and used it to build like female change rooms did it because they had already received other grants and like had done all the stuff they wanted to do? I think that was it. I think Ithink I heard that on, Buntivista.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. Different foot club though, but yes. Oh, God, this is so fucking dumb. To be sure, the potential misuse of taxpayer funds is a big policy issue and must be investigated. In October last year, this government gifted $1 billion of taxpayer funds to the Clean Energy Finance Corporation to underwrite more intermittent, expensive and unreliable renewable energy. No one lost their job. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Okay. All right. the corruption there, so that's fine. In 2018, this government gave $44 million to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, which at the time had an annual revenue of around $10 million. No one one lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost they they they they they they tho one one one one one one one one one tho. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, th, tho, tho, th. Yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho-a, thooo-a' thoan, thoooan, thoooan, thooo-a. thoo. th revenue of around $10 million. No one lost their job. Yeah, they should have. Everyone fucking complained about it. Every single person said, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:13:50 What the fuck? Why did we do this? And then nothing happened. Yeah, if only there was some sort of independent body to investigate this sort of shit. That would have been fucking great. Remember when, remember when they just like gave 30 million dollars to Fox tell? To make some local content? Yep. Still haven't seen that.
Starting point is 01:14:11 We have no mandate. Yep, and everybody said what the fuck? Why did that happen? And then they just ignored everybody and went about their day? For a decade, both coalition and labor governments gave more than $88 million to the scandal-played Clinton foundation. Yeah, let's get the Clinton's involved. Yeah, we're talking.
Starting point is 01:14:32 All right. Yet, Miss McKenzie could lose her role as Deputy Leader of the Nationals for faithfully discharging her duties as a minister, an elected member of parliament. The thing that I do genuinely love about this is like how incredibly like unvarnished the partisan nature of it is. Like, it's like sweet, sweet beautiful innocent angel Bridget McKenzie was only doing the same thing that she does every day. Saving lives, kissing babies stopping orphanages from burning down, when the evil, very Jewish-looking public servants came.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Like, it's just fucking wild how completely guileless it is. You know? It's wonderful. It would be interesting to, I think, observe the process of someone like this dipshit Daniel Wild, being made to write a news article by the guidelines that a place such as the ABC have, have to, have to, have to, have to, have, have to, have, to, have, how, have to, have to, have, have to, have, have to, have, have, have, have, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to have to have to have to have to have to have to, have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to, have to write a news article by the guidelines that a place such as the ABC have to obey. Right, just place him in that situation and say, okay, you have to have another go at this, but you have to actually write it by some sort of objective guidelines, and we will also have an editor to oversee the process and you know
Starting point is 01:16:07 bring you back in line and just watch the process of like him just shrink it collapsing inwards with the task of of not being a massive dip shit. I'm sorry dude we're going to need you to drop a couple of facts in there. Yeah like yeah just the idea that anybody who has been following this story, from the, you know, from the complete ignoring of the recommendations of the bipartisan body, that was actually supposed to administer this stuff,
Starting point is 01:16:41 all the way up to the, we made a big Excel spreadsheet of all of these things and color-coded like on the basis of ones we wanted to win and ones we didn't care about and gave all the money to those ones. The idea that anybody could have seen this news and gone, there's a minister who is faithfully discharging her duties. I love to faithfully discharge. Oh, Miss McKenzie has been engulfed by the scandal. Just not the ones spun in the media.
Starting point is 01:17:18 A member of the opposition directed the ANAO to investigate a political impotent. The ANAO then went beyond the remit of this original request and the taxpayer funded ABC conspired with a leaker to obtain a report on confidential information with the potential effect of ending the political career of an elected member of parliament. Okay, well, what happened to her? She resigned as Deputy Leader of the Nationals and as the Minister for Agriculture and she is now still a senator. Yep, she's even still the Senate leader. Yep. So she didn't even have to step down for her other jobs, you know, so pretty cool. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Pretty cool, pretty tight. And this was of course as somebody who sent in an email pointed out, this was the thing that we spoke about on the show and predicted was going to happen, which was that they would eventually make her step down, but only from her role as, you know, deputy leader. Like, the fact that she's, the fact that she's stepped down from the front bench, she stepped down from cabinet and so has like stepped down from her portfolio, it's not even the same portfolio she got caught doing all the corruption in. No. Like that was when she was the sports minister and now she's stepping down from her role as
Starting point is 01:18:39 agriculture minister. It's like, so you're saying you did something wrong, but you're being taken out of a role that's not even related to that, you to to to to that, you to that, you to that, you that, you to to that, you that, you that, you to to that, you to that, you, you, you, you, you, you,'re saying you did something wrong, but you'd be being taken out of a role that's not even related to that, you know? But again, as we've said, now we get the whole thing of getting to see a hundred million dollar program get just incredibly corruptly mismanaged, and she gets to, Ato say she's resigning when she's not actually resigning, she's not leaving Parliament or anything like that, she gets to keep her job and she gets to say that she never did anything wrong, that the sports grants program was administered properly and that the reason she's actually resigning is because she forgot to declare something on her
Starting point is 01:19:26 donations. Yeah, the thing that made her loser job was not declaring a $300 membership for a gun club that she gave $36,000, which is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the other inexplicable ones that got the maximum amount which is $500,000. Well and yeah like so like I said she gets to insist that she never did anything wrong or anything and resigns for doing something that they normally never punish anybody for. Yeah just so that the government doesn't have to actually admit any sort of um, malfeance in any of this. It's all so that they can say, oh, we looked into it and here's, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:17 ah, Alcapone didn't do his taxes. It's a real Al Capone situation. And, yeah, like, it's fucking absurd. It's a real Al Capone situation. And yeah, like, it's fucking absurd because we have incident after incident after incident of various MPs getting done for claiming things that they shouldn't have claimed on their travel expenses and on their parliamentary allowances and all that sort of thing. And every time they get caught, they go, whoopsy, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I'm sorry. So sorry. And they say, I'll give the money back, so are we? I didn't mean to take it all. And then they're just allowed to go right on with what they're doing. So the fact that they've made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made the their they they they they they they they their their their thi they they've made her resign for a thing that they normally don't even think is enough of an issue to make anybody resign about is kind of the icing on the cake to me.
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's all cool. And now it's a wrapping up the show kind of situation, you know? Mm-hmm. A little bit along there, but you know you love it. You know you love it. Otherwise, why would you have, why would you have, you know, subscribed? Why would you have laid down the money for the actual show? Well, they've suffered some sort of curse. Ah. And they will not be. Yeah. The Buntavista curse. You hate to see it. But you love to hear it. That's it, folks. Thanks for stopping by. Ben, you're going to be parting the thoughts for us.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Any positive affirmations perhaps? Oh, it's a great question. I feel like I've given out every single piece of just sort of generally nice advice. I can actually, no. You know what, I'm going to, I'm going'm gonna err towards the side of consumerism this time. If there's like one thing where you've been thinking for ages, oh it'd be nice to have a good one of one of those and you find yourself with a little bit extra money, a little bit more money than you normally have at all this week. Do it. Pull the trigger on that. Just go get it. Go get yourself that extra good kitchen knife. Go get yourself that nice set of towels.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Just, it'll be with you for a while. If you buy a good version of it, hope it'll last longer than just buying the cheap shitty version you have to replace all the time. Just treat yourself. Thank you Ben, I'm going to get that pieceer. All the way from Germany. Real comfortable grip. All the today. All the the'l that's it and we'll see you next week. Bye bye. That's it and we'll see you next week. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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