Boonta Vista - UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE: The Man Who Gets Sucked Off On Jetskis by John le Carre

Episode Date: April 2, 2020

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Welcome to Bun to this This Socialist Club. That just came right out of the back of my brain. Uh-huh. Huh. Huh. That was really unexpected to me. It's a bonus episode and apparently a throwback as well. I'd feel like the emphasis

was weird on how you said it as well. It was very, very weird. Like you were shocked halfway through saying it. I was, I was, like, as soon as the words were coming out of me, I was frankly surprised. Are you okay? You got not smelling toast. I, I like the rest of us, are lost in time. We have all lost track of time, especially us, quarantined aboard the SS diarrhea. The grossest cruise ship on the ocean. I'm pretty shocked that half the people on here have coronavirus because I came here for the gastro. I did not sign up for the corona. You know? You were like

I'm happy with gastro, Nova virus, what's the other one that you get on cruise ships? Super gastro? Is that? Oh, super gastro? Yeah, so d'a gastro. Yeah. But corona virus? No, thank you. Show me, show me on the form where I ticked all of those boxes for all the things I was happy to catch. Show me the one that said coronavirus. I consented to getting two and a half weeks of diarrhea. I did not consent to have a severe, highly transmissible respiratory illness. So you guys are going on the continental breakfast of cruise ship viruses. Just the, oh you think you're better than us. Well I've really just go on the hot breakfast option where I'm ordering alacart. I'm getting one of

everything. I'm down at the buffet is where I'm... And I'm getting my money's worth. Yeah, yeah. Now because this will be on the free feed as all of our lockdown buffet is where I'm getting my money's worth. Yeah, yeah. Now because this will be on the free feed as all of our lockdown content is, I am Andrew and I am sitting on the one toilet in a shared room which also only has two single beds. And over on the other side of the bathroom, puking violently into the sink is Ben, hello Ben. Hey, um, it's lovely the sink is Ben. Hello Ben. Hey, um, it's lovely to have a 30-second break where I'm not vomiting up a bunch of slightly off-sea food into this tiny, I'd call it almost a sink-ette.

And the hole is smaller than normal, the sinkhole. It's a joke hole just for farts. And because there is only one toilet, with his pants down, sitting on my lap. Like some kind of perverted ventriloquist dummy and shitting between my legs is Theo. Ah, hey, how are you going? Now, through... I'm good. Through the wonders of parallel construction, Ben and I have already

used this bit. I know. It's a throwback. It's another throwback episode. We are of course referring to the Cucabururra Queen, the boat in Queensland in Brisbane where it crashed into something and a gun fell through the floor and landed on someone else in the toilet. And I cannot stress enough that this was very much the boat on which my partner's parents got married. And of course the other detail of this story was that the ferry crashed into a UFO and unidentified floating object never never identified they couldn't actually say in this story this new

story about a fairy crashing into something which I believe smashed a hole in the hole and also dislodged enough stuff for someone to fall through the floor they were standing on and land on somebody else's lap on the toilet and they couldn't actually say what they ran into. Well I guess we'll never find out. Some type of large aquatic Bigfoot. May have some sort of skunk ape. May have some sort of skunk ape. Waterbound skunk ape. Some sort of... It takes a long time for their fur to dry. It might be a creature from the Black Lagoon from the Brisbane River.

Creature from the Brisbane Lagoon. Brown Lagoon. Yeah. You guys have a... Well, I mean you're from Queensland Theo, I imagine you've probably spent time in some towns that prominently have a lagoon. Oh, absolutely. When your town gets a lagoon, that's how you know, it's made it. Does Mackay have a lagoon? Oh boy. So they have a lagoon that was built probably, uh, 2010 I want to say.

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So look forward to Laguna Keys relaunching in 2025. Wait, hang on, let's, can I backtrack a little bit here? This is not the Laguna Keys in Repulse Bay, isn't? I don't know. Sorry, let me just, I'm going to zoom out on the Google Maps here because there is definitely a very large chance that I spent two months in tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho their tho tho the the th th tho tho tho the the the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu. So thu. So tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the tho. the the the and the the the theanan thean thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. So to zoom out on the Google Maps here, because there is definitely a very large chance that I spent two months in that place. Has it got like a whole bunch of pools that look like they could be like half pipes? Oh God, if this is the place that I'm thinking of, sorry, I'm so sorry about this, but this was actually a very formative part of my childhood Laguna Keys because it is where I had my first kiss. Oh!

Well, isn't that sweet? That is so sweet. We were staying there because when we were living on the boat, my dad would occasionally fly back to Sydney for work for months at a time. Yeah, that's the same Laguna Keys. It's where I was a, I believe I was 13. There was another girl who was also living on a boat. It just made sense.

Yeah, we were watching the movie Independence Day and you know the magic, the magic happened. Of course the movie Independence Day does make us all think about what if this were my last day on earth? What if the White House was exploding along with all of the other major landmarks around me like the nearest water slide. What if Dennis Quaid could fly a plane, but barely? What if you found out throughout the course of Independence Day that his assertions that he had been taken captive by aliens were 100% true and then even after every character in the movie discovered this, they still treated him like he was crazy. I just want to point

out that you're both talking about Randy Quaid. Oh sorry you're right we got the wrong Quaid. Apologies to a friend of the show Dennis Quaid. Check out Randy Quaid's Twitter account sometime. Or don't. Or don't. Or do. He has, he has gone to some sort of DJ supply store, bought a light that rapidly changes color. And now he holds that light up to his face, puts his camera on front facing mode on his phone and then he says that

Hillary is going to prison while that light flashes on his face with his great big bushy beard it is terrifying. Good use of those Independence Day royalties. Now for for regular old dipshits like me I don't know a bay from a fjord. I don't know the estuaries from my shoals. So I actually want to look up. I feel angry hearing those words even though I know this is just you doing a transition. Well I wanted to to know what is the actual definition for a lagoon. So according to the magic of the internet a lagoon is a shallow body of water, separated from a larger body of water by barrier, islands, or reefs, commonly divided into coastal lagoons and atoll lagoons.

So in the course of seeing this, I have seen a news story about a goth lagoon. What? What? So, so in England, there is a, there is a blue lagoon in Derbyshire, Derbyshire, Derbyshire. Derbyshire. Derbyshire. And there is, so there's a local, um, blue, a very vivid blue lagoon that people visit to have, you know, take their Instagram photos. You know how people love to go and fuck up a nice, their, their, their, their, there, their, there, there, their, their, there, their, there, there, there, their, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there is a, there is a, there's a, there's a, there's a there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there is there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a their, their, their, their, their, their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a thoo' is a thooooo' is a their is a their, their, their, to have, you know, take their Instagram photos.

You know how people love to go and fuck up a nice, natural wonder by going and taking photos with it? You guys ever see the news story about, like farmers complaining about people coming and destroying their sunflower fields? Oh, yeah, for sure. It's actually some of that happened out near Mum's Place destroying their sunflower fields. Oh yeah for sure. It's actually some of that happened out near Mum's place on the way up to Stanthorpe. There you go. So apparently due to the coronavirus lockdown, the police there in England wanted to discourage

people from coming out to take their Instagram photos with this lagoon and so they dumped a fuckload of black. God that rules. this lagoon and so they dumped a fuckload of black dye into it and dyed it black. God that rules. It does rule. Now nobody can enjoy it. That's right. Well, Goths can enjoy it.

True. Lucy would love that place. She would. She would. Do a Tick-talk, put a little clip of my chemical romance on it. Sorted. Now to a Goth, that might be the coolest thing in the world. But it's not the coolest thing in the world to everybody.

The people on this podcast, for example, we have wildly divergent tastes. That's true. None of us are the same. Except for me and Theo. Yeah, we're the same, but everyone else. We're the same, but everyone else is very different. Very different. So let's try a little experiment here. On three, let's say what we all think is the coolest thing in the entire world. Okay? This is going to be like one of those jokes where everyone just says something crazy different, right? And that's that's the punch line, maybe? I know what I'm going to say. th. Okay. Okay. Well, th. Well, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, the thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, tho, thi, tho, we're tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're the. the. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.. I know what I'm going to say, Bob. Okay, well you guys are the same, so, who knows? One, two, three. Football, Ireland.

Well, huh. Huh. Huh. Wait, so, okay, I know what I mean by that, but what do you guys mean by that? Well, imagine, if you will, you've got got an island. Okay I'm with you so far. But for the express purpose of football. Right and we're talking like footy like footy, like you'd see on on TV. Yeah like I could see on Channel 9 on you know on the wide world sports. Yeah Saturday nights Sunday nights Sunday nights, Thursday nights, Friday nights Thursday nights. Like, league, right? Like, like, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what I was thinking.

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But the book itself extremely British it's like a Day of the Triffids style British I love the book of Day of the Trifids is a guy trying to get drunk he's just wandering around helping himself to every bar he finds while being like oh and all this triffid stuff is happening as well. Really interfering with my latest martini. Just screaming it's always five o'clock somewhere at a giant plant that is trying to blind you. But it is a but it is an extremely British book. There's a blind people wandering around and this guy saying,

Jolly good, about getting another drink of the bar. So escape from Absalom type situation, except that everybody who is stuck there, they're playing footy. You know? That's what I'm picturing. And that's, obviously it's a bit of a pipe dream because there's no way that would ever come true, right? Or maybe. Wrong! Fuck. This is just like, you know, we all look at the news, right? That's the only thing anyone does at the

moment. And everything is fucking insane. You know, like this morning I look at the news and I'm like insane you know like this morning I look at the news and I'm like oh the guy from Tiger King tested positive for coronavirus okay awesome there's so much going on and you kind of you get to the point where you're like you know Boris Johnson gets greater virus and you're like okay you're so exhausted by the news at this point that you're like nothing can surprise you nothing there's no novelty at this point that you're like nothing can surprise you. Nothing. There's no novelty to anything. You know you're just like a... It's like when you go to detention you have to write it out and you like you've been looking at the word must.

So many times it loses all meaning. So you're just losing all semantic meaning, like semantic overload except it's looking at the words football island and just nodding serenely. I think th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the th, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-n, tho. looking at the words football island and just nodding serenely. I think today just be like this morning seeing people referring to some sort of NRL Island but not knowing what those words meant and I was like what a fun idea and then I read a story from the Guardian that was exactly what the fun idea I had in my head was. Let me read to you both from this article in The Guardian here. It may sound like a desperate pitch for a bad reality TV show, but the NRL season may yet be saved after an audacious plan was outlined to house all 16 teams at a luxury island resort near Brisbane with a view to playing the entire competition in Queensland. How quickly do you think every single player would have a confirmed case of coronavirus?

Oh, it would be incredible. They'd be like the assistant coach for the Newcastle nights brings coronavirus over and everyone is fucked. It would end up like when they have those sort of like anthrax or mad cow disease outbreaks on an island and someone has to, they have to send in a team of exterminators in full body suit, flame throwers, murder everybody. It's like every single player for the league including like reserve players or whatever standing full nude in the middle of the airstrip on Tangleuma just like while everything else is being burned to the ground. Imagine how much hard work it would be to stack up the bodies of an NRL team.

Oh God. Those guys are huge. I was about to like, all of my touch points for league players, I haven't really watched the last couple of years. They're all outdated now. I'm like, oh, I imagine having to pick up Dave Taylor. I don't think he plays anymore. I think he's gone. But I still don't want to pick him up. Oh, that Bobby Swindler. He was a mover and a shake-up. Oh, that Wally Lewis. What a tempo. I couldn't carry him. So I think, I think just coming back to what you were saying about the news, to me, the distinction here, the reason that this is worth putting in the paper besides the obvious football island. I can't see a reason why he wouldn't put this in the paper but go on. Well like you guys were saying I sort of felt like I saw a new story this

morning that was like Wimbledon will not be going ahead and I was like of course it won't. Don't say play on the moon. Yeah don't show that to me you don't need to, you do not the the to to the to to th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, that, the the, that, th. I the the th. I wouldn't, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the the the the the th. I, the the the the the th. I, the the the th. I, the, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. I, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, to. that, that, that, that, that, that, the that, the that, the the the the the the moon. Yeah, don't show that to me. You don't need... You don't need to... you do not need... Imagine how far the ball would go. How far... How big would the court have to be? With that reduced gravity? I'm thinking one moon. I think it would have to be six times as big. Oh, oh, okay. Because the moon is a sixth to about gravity. So I'm definitely finding myself seeing things like... that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. tho. th. tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooome. to to to to tho. So I'm definitely finding myself seeing things like... Wait, that sounds wrong. I'm gonna check that. You keep talking. Okay. Like, we have announced that we will not be holding the Wimbledon tournament.

I'm like, you don't need to announce that. Everything is simultaneously not happening. You don't need to is just insisting that they're going to go ahead and put several amets on and they're gonna do it, you know, well they'll put on paper views and they're gonna do it with closed doors. There is an upcoming papeer view with two fighters. This is the fifth time this fight has been scheduled.

Each time the fight has resulted in one of the fighters having to withdraw due to like a botched weight cut or an injury or something like that. And so you know it commonly held opinion in the MMA community is that a fight between these two people will never happen. It has been cursed by the MMA gods and also the coronavirus happened specifically because they tried to book this fight for a fifth time. But they're insisting that it's going to go ahead and that's the only thing of interest in like the world of that particular sport is the insistence that a thing is going to happen.

You don't have to tell me that something's not going to happen at this point. I'm just the th going to happen for like a year, which is why the football island is so tantalizing. The idea that what if it did happen? What if it did happen though? What if we did take them all to a complex on Morriton Island at the Tangleuma Island Resort, which could fit up to 1,500 guests more than enough for the estimated 500 or so soe so.. to to to to to to so to to to to to th th so th so th. th so thiole thiole thiole the Tangleuma Island Resort which could fit up to 1,500 guests more than enough for the estimated 500 or so players and staff. Well you have a thousand spectators now. I love that... Oh so it is David James the manager of the Tangleuma Island resort who has suggested this to league life on Fox Sports.

It's just like, um, what if you came and stayed at my place? I've got the room for some reason. For some reason, there is nobody booked. There's no way we can explain how or why that would be the case. Oh my god. This whole thing has just been hatched by one guy and I love it so much. From the sound of the article, people are on board with it. I thi thi thi th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, I've th that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've that that that that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that. I've got that. I've that that that. I've by one guy and I love it so much. From the sound of the article, people are on board with it. I think that is the craziest part of it. Yeah, but check out these, all right, so the following two paragraphs, right? This is really beautiful to me because so far, we've had the manager of the resort that has no one staying in it due to the global pandemic,

saying that they have more than enough room for the entire league, basically. The sprawling grounds, including a grassy airstrip, would be adapted to accommodate training sessions under the proposal, while players would be ferried to the mainland on private boats and then on buses to and from locked down stadiums on match days. The ambitious plan, which would be subject to strict safety measures, the the the the the the the the the the the the their the the the the the the their the their their the the their their the their the the their their their their their their their their room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room tooomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomom. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thau from locked down stadiums on match days. The ambitious plan, which would be subject to strict safety measures, in light of the latest government advice on reducing the spread of the coronavirus, has been handed to the NRL, according to James, and the ball is, quote, now in their court. Absolutely, Alphaboof.

This guy wrote this on a fucking napkin and like handed it somebody. Well, what are you going to do with that? Oh. I'm just imagining like the police style escort. You know like in Batman down the Brisbane Riverside Express all three lanes of it. Yep. Just taking them to Suncorps Stadium. It's enough to bring a tear to your eye. The big truck pulls up alongside them, sliding door opens in the side and it's a 20-year-old coughing without covering their mouth. Oh I really like, so this is a quote from the end here.

There's an opportunity worldwide for getting the great game of rugby league out there in the American markets, an advertising Queensland and Australia and saying, look, where a country thinks differently. Well, that's true. We shipped an entire professional kind of sport into one tropical island. Pretty different. We can infect an entire league of sport faster than anybody on this. But there's no way, even mocking it,

there's no way you could say this without it also sounding fucking cool as hell. Oh, look, uh, we've got a fleet of high-speed ferries and catamarans. Yeah, that's a weird brag that he threw in there. They're very fast. Oh, speedy catamarans will whisk you away to the safety of football island. Actually, one of the things that gets me here is, sorry, I'm trying to find the quote, where they talk about the compulsory testing before people are allowed on the island?

Yeah, so the greatest thing is we can isolate the place, we can lock it down. So we're off the coast of Brisbane, we want to go through a process with the NRL in Queensland government and the New South Wales government where whereby we're testing players players players players come into an island, an isolated, clean, COVID-free environment. Oh, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful dream. I hope this strange man gets his weird dream. Just can you imagine if this is the only professional football code left in the world? Like, if they pull this off, there's no American football, there's no soccer, there's no

AFL, there's no Celtic football, there's no Super League, there's no fucking weird European rugby, there is just rugby league. That is my actual dream. They should let people do the, you guys ever watch like the M1 night fights? No, I believe you have told me to. Yeah, like in the, like, Eastern European countries where dudes put on like full suits of armor and blast each other with swords. No skin to skin contact in that one. True. It's a safe sport there is.

No fluids, you know? That's fine. Get them, get them in there. Let them go. Maybe fencing. They got the masks on, you know, just put a bit of glad wrap over the front. Over the front over the front. Yep just perfectly seal up the entire front of your mask with glad wrap. Yes a whole head

to be safe. How long do you even need to breathe for really? Well you just poke a few holes in for the air. And that's why I should leave us in charge of professional sports. Well as as this guy says I think it's a terrific advertisement for Australian ingenuity that we just ignored everything every other sensible sporting organization on the planet was doing and said no no football island. Two words power football island. God can you match football island? I hope it, honestly, I want this to be real so fucking bad. Oh, the dream. I won't miss a single game.

If they pull this off. There's definitely been talk about, like, I think a lot of, a lot of different organizations entertain the idea initially of doing things to like empty stadiums and that sort of stuff. Like they're saying they want to do here, like a locked down stadium and then you're going to televise this thing with no crowds. They have already done that for one UFC event in Brazil and that was very weird. I watched a little bit of it where they were doing, they had like Bruce Buffer like announcing people and their names and everything and then they'd

come out and go, thank you to like this completely empty arena. It doesn't do it like, considering that it's supposed to have the desired effect of the show will go on and everything is still normal it does not make you feel like that. No, it feels more sad. Have you watched any of the like WWE wrestling promos to no audience? Yeah, like just in the ring just be like, what do you guys think if I do this? And that's nothing.

They cut to the chairs. Which like they're leading into it, which is funny, but it's still like, it's grim. Yeah, at least like they can have a sense of humor about it. Whereas, yeah, these other organizations are like, we're going to keep going with it. And it's like, who the fuck wants to watch? Yeah, imagine watching a game of league with no, no crowd. Just dead silence. It's extremely weird. I can't imagine that kind of making anybody feel any better about anything, you know? Yeah, it'd be like watching a Gold Coast Titans game all the time. Speaking of things that

aren't really making anybody feel any better. Um, got a little update here from Domain about what our beautiful landlords are doing, you know, the most beloved class in Australia. You gotta love them. Yes, you have to love them? You know what's a fun thing you can do right now? Uh, is just, Google the words, why do people hate landlords? And then scroll through the various platforms on which landlords have posted this question.

It is wild. I have no idea. None whatsoever. Very strange. Oh, I saw a thing before, which was like, it was an American site, their site, their site, and saying, um, I do not know of any equivalent in Australia. But it was an American, a site listing properties and saying who owns them and whether or not they're paid off so that if you're renting you can look and see if your landlord is actually like paying off a mortgage in the place that you live.

And so yeah I saw like somebody posting that thing and saying, oh you know my landlord has said that they can't reduce my rent and I've looked and they got this property in an inheritance and they don't pay anything for it. Cool. Very cool. We'll get more into this, I feel. Yeah. So from Domain here it says tenants in Victoria have received what they have described as intrusive

and aggressive e-mails. I believe the e stands for electronic. From property managers when asking for rents decreases due to COVID-19 hardship or even before they broach the subject at all, that's a good sign. Some hardship application forms ask tenants to list their expenditure on groceries, entertainment and utilities. And whether the resident has drawn down on their superannuation and if they have any accrued leave at their place of work, fuck you. We forgot to mention this the other night when we were talking about this. So just one minute of context for our non-Australian

listeners superannuations like 401k kind of thing. It's a bunch of thing that you have to put in mandatorily like 9% is that right 9%? Is that right? 9%? I think so? Yeah. That you can't touc. And because it all goes into stocks. Now everyone's superannuation is worth approximately four that you can't toucest. And because it all goes into stocks, now everyone's superannuation is worth approximately $4. And our government's response is, you can now touch your superannuation to pay for your grocery bills. So it's worth nothing, and if you use it now,

then you have no more thing. So, cool. And it sounds like that's what they want you to do now, then you have no more thing. So cool. And it sounds like that's what they want you to do here too. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, just fuck yourself over so that real estate people, speculators never experience any risk whatsoever, because that's something they're completely unprepared to deal with. So it's good. Super duper good and we all love it. Well yeah like Theo was

saying yeah basically superannuation here is probably kind of bad because we used to just have a pension that everybody could access after a certain age and over time that has been like everything else, eroded by various governments and stripped right back to a point where it's basically poverty level. With the point being, oh, well if you don't want to live on poverty level, you should save up all your own money for your retirement. You should keep paying income tax for your entire life to the government.

And once you are no longer of working age, you should also pay for yourself to live. So that's all very cool. And then also, as Theo said, a lot of that has gone into stocks, so depending on the super fund that you're with and how they're investing that money, not only are they 1,000 percent fucking you on thousands of dollars of fees, but in some cases they're investing your shit in high-risk stocks. And when something like this coronavirus business happens, people are having like a quarter of their retirement funds wiped out. And they go, sooo, ohoo, sooo, your money was gone. Oh, sorry, we needed this to live, sorry.

What, what, wha, wah, uh, sad horn they give him. Calling Wood Tenant Joshua Badge, uh, shout, that's Joshua, a friend of the show, follows me on Twitter. Received one such application, which domain has seen, from his property manager at Melbourne real estate. He felt the landlord and agency would use the information to make a value judgment about whether or not he deserved a rent increase. And he was right to think that. They wanted to know the number of accrued leave hours which strikes me is out of order and which says to me they expect you to use that to pay rent, Mr. Badge said, I'm a casual so I don't have any and even if I did am I meant to live off leave? And

even if they did expect me to rob Peter to pay Paul by rating my retirement fund it seems very unethical in the hands at the expense of renters who have very few rights. He and his partner had both lost income due to the coronavirus pandemic and and were waiting to see if they were eligible for the newly boosted job seagull welfare payment. Mr. Badge felt the questions about how much he spent on entertainment and groceries were also too intrusive. Yeah, it's absolutely fucked up because you know what they're going to say. You're going to say, hey, I have these various services or subscriptions or whatever that I'm signed up to because that is how everything works now. That's it.

If you ever want to listen to music, you have fucking Spotify or whatever. And they reply to you is they're going to say, oh yeah, but you could live without music or watching anything on TV or fucking....... Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, th, th, hey, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I, I, I, I have, I, I, I, I have, I, I, I have, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I I I I I I I, I I I I I I I I I I, I, I I I I, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I have th. I have you is that they're going to say, oh yeah, but you could live without music or watching anything on TV or fucking- But Andrew, what price would you put on that? So you got Spotify, you got Netflix? You might even have Amazon Prime. There's, I don't. Three of them there.

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And so, by my maths, 9 bucks a week, is about 9 bucks a week. Yep. Huh. And what's... Well that's your cover it. Yeah. Theo do you actually... Which I would say is less than rent, right? Substantially. Unless you've got a really good deal. Yeah. Okay. So it'd probably get you, not your foot in the door with rent, but maybe just your little pinky toe. Very very tip of your hog. You'd get the tip of Theo's penis inside the door. Yep. Just the tip. Just the tip. Now if you that's what we think on this side of the fence, but say you were Melbourne real estate business development manager Stephen Fitzsimon

Who is I believe that's the company? Josh Badge is renting through yep What does he reckon is probably a reasonable amount for a millennial to have is their entertainment budget there Theo? Oh, well Andrew, Andrew, why don't you take it away? You have drawn a breath. It's true. Uh, Melbourne real estate business development manager, Stephen the cunt, Fitzimmon, said that this could be the case. Um, he says as an example, if you have an income of $1,000, sure. It's not out of the ordinary. And you're asking for $100. th $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $100.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. to $1. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. I the. I theole. I toe. I to to to to, it's not out of the ordinary. And you're asking for... Pretty high, but go on. And you're asking for $100 a week off rent. And you're paying $600 a week

on entertainment. Why not pay $500 on entertainment and not have $100 off your rent, he said. What does... Okay, Ben, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this. Okay. $600 a week on Entertainment. What are you doing with that? Now, I'm going to say a good $450 of that is new release Blu-rays. Yep. You've got to get your bonus features and you want your max resolution.

Maybe you're even getting 4K Blu-rays and that'll pump you up to 500. And then you've got... I'm only buying from the criterion collection. Are they doing 4K or those criterion's? I haven't checked. They better be. So then you've got, you've spent your five hundo on 4k blue rays. Nine dollars on your streaming services. Yep. That's my streams. $25 on replacement 3D glasses because you keep bloody breaking the 3D glasses on your curved 3D 4k TV. And what does that leave us with? We've still got another $66 there. You're buying four-fifths of a AAA game and then you're done.

I believe you're on record, as previously having said that the coolest thing that someone can do is be sucked off on a jet ski. That is a hundred percent true, yes. I reckon you could get sucked off on a jet ski with change out of $600. I, I reckon... I reckon... Well, oh, if you're not bringing your own jet ski to the table... Uh, I think jet ski rental is less than you think, depending on where you live. Yeah, but it all that is th is th is th is th is th is th is ths ths th is ths ths ths ths thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thrue thrue thrue thrue thrue, true, true, true, true true, yes, yes, yes, true, yes, true, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, true, true, tr tr true, tr tr tr tr tr true, tr tr tr true, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr true, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, thrue, thrue, thrue, thrue, thrue, thrue, thrue, true, thrue, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, table. I think jet ski rental is less than you think, depending on where you live. Yeah, but it all adds up.

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in a loving relationship or similar, you're really only looking at the bare bones cost of a jet ski rental and you could easily get any number of those in. I guess it depends on your own refractory period. Welcome to Budapista. I believe it's a political podcast. I'm not entirely sure. Doing politics. But twice is how many times you get sucked off on a jet ski for $600 a week. Yeah if you've got the outlay cost of the person to suck you off you're, you're probably looking about twice is how many times you've sucked off on a jet ski for $600 a week. Yeah, if you've got the outlay cost of the person to suck you off, you're probably looking about twice for 600 I think. Yeah, but you've got to consider like maintenance on that jet ski. No, this is a jet ski.

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He says, you can't dictate to someone that they can't have Netflix, but what they're trying to gauge from here is if this guy is skint. Actually, I... I don't... I can't see any possible scenario in which they are asking for specifically what you spend on entertainment in a month without the end result of that scenario being them saying to you actually you can no longer have Netflix because it's incredibly transparent that what they're trying to establish in this order is, is there anything that we could consider, that we as real estate agents or landlords or whatever,

could consider, I guess, you know, expendable income or recreational spending or anything like that. Anything that we would say, oh well that right there, that's money that you won't die if you're not spending. So you can cut that right out, right to start with. Then they're asking about your superannuation and the others also transparently because the government has said people will be able to access their superannuation early as part of an emergency. So that's very clearly. The second that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that you that you that you that you that you won that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you you you you you you that you you you you you you you you that you you you you you you you that you you you you you you you that you you you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that is that is that is that's that's that's that's that's th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoooo thoooo thoo thi thi thi thoooooooo thi that's that's that's thi that you won will be able to access their superannuation early as part of an emergency. So that's very clearly the second thing they're going to ask you is, like, I saw a copy of the form and it says, have you attempted to access your superannuation yet

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25, how much fucking money is going to be in there? You're going to be able to pull out like maybe $10,000 or something? Like I've no idea what if somebody was like a casual and and in their early to mid-twenties I cannot even begin to imagine how much money they could actually get out of their super in order to to pay their rent with. Which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much mcu-mucing, how much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much, how much much much much, how much much much much, how much their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi. I thi. I'm thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. So. So, how much money money, how much money, how much money, how much money, thi's thi's thi's their thi mid-20s, I cannot even begin to imagine how much money they could actually get out of their super in order to pay their rent with. Oh man, I've got like barely anything in my super and I'm somewhere between my mid-20s and my mid-30s. Yeah, like, so if you also had leave banked up for the vast majority of employees in permanent full-time roles, if you have more than like six weeks of leave backed up, your workplace is

making you take it. A lot of workplaces do not like it at all when people, because you know people, people deliberately try to bank up tons of leave, they can say, there there go I didn't take any holidays while I was there, pay me several months of leave at once. And they don't like doing that. So it will force you to take leave. So the balance that, well, and also, in the case of some employers, they will make you do it because you're supposed to take breaks from your work. In the case, like I'm sure that they don't like paying things out as big lump sums, but in some cases in a workplace that does actually give the slightest

fuck about your, maybe your well-being, but also your ability to work sustainably across years, we'll say to you, actually you meant to take a break every now and it, take some fucking leave. So if you're talking about most people having like maybe, you know, like $10 or $15,000 of super that they could access, maybe, and having like, I don't know, most people would not have like four weeks of leave sitting there that they haven't taken any of them. So how long is any of this going to sustain you for? And also, like you said, that leave is a break from you, using your labor to produce to they? they, they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the to the the the the the.uu. the. the. the. the. tooooooo. toe. toe. toe. toe. So. toe. So. So. So. So how long is any of this going to sustain you for? And also, like you said, that leave is a break from you using your labor to produce value for somebody else, right? Whereas the landlords, especially the ones that they're talking about in these articles where people may own several properties or ten properties or like there's a billionaire in Brisbane that owns I

believe like hundreds of properties that's been in the news recently they're making money from to completely passively they don't need a holiday from what they're doing because they it's a totally passive income right so like this is another thing that I've seen a lot people are people are very slow to kind of come around to these to these the th th th thi th th th th th th th ththese the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their the the their the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theeeeeeee theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee their their their their their their their the People are very slow to kind of come around to these things, right? Where, you know, we're saying, well, look, but if it wasn't landlords, you know, right now you wouldn't even be in a house. And you're like, well, in the time of a global pandemic, if you stop paying rent, the walls don't disappear around you. The shelter doesn't cease to exist. It's all still there, right?

So at the very least, why don't you just put a fucking hold on everything? Why don't you just stop it for a while while we work this shit out? Like, the house isn't going anywhere because the landlord's not getting paid. Yeah, but wouldn't it make more sense if they milked every last bit of money out of people's retirement funds and all of their leave from work and left them like with absolutely no safety level so they could get a few more weeks of rent before the government eventually steps in and helps people out. So coming back to Mr. Fitzsimmon here from Melbourne Real Estate, he says you can't dictate to someone that they can't have Netflix,

but what they're trying to gauge from here is if this guy's skin. And like I said, I cannot see any scenario in which this isn't entirely the point of the exercise. Yeah, you're lucky eating, huh? There is other money you could be spending to pay this rent. Mr. Fitzsimmon said he didn't think a tenant needed to provide all this information, but was collecting it preemptively because landlords wanted to know in some cases, including information about leave and superannuation.

Quote, I don't think people should be taking leave to pay their rent. In our business, no one's taking leave to cover lost hours. It's a joke. But if an owner asks it, dot, dot, he said. So he doesn't think people should be doing it, and he thinks it's a joke and no one at his workplace is doing it, but if an owner asks it, long pause, the implication being, if the landlord says they want something, then we're just doing it. He continued on personally, I think asking for super details is ridiculous. they want something, then we're just doing it. He continued on personally, I think asking for super details is ridiculous. Super's for your retirement, he said, presumably before going on to email out another 6,000

of these forms. Yeah, cool. So what do your beliefs mean? Nothing? Yeah. He's going in to work. Sick. He's already a property manager. Fuck that guy.

Prior and tenant Adam said they had been preemptively threatened with legal action in an email from their real estate agency, McKinnis Property Management, which said despite the moratorium on evictions they would kick out tenants after the ban was lifted if they didn't pay rent. Cants. Quait. So so so so so so so so so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so are safe from eviction for six months, and we sympathize with any tenant that finds themselves in difficulty during these periods, the email lied, we may be required to seek orders from the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal so as to maintain

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they're trying to get around that. Very much. Very clearly saying, yeah, we can't evict you right now. But if you don't go along with that, it will be remembered and you will be punished accordingly as soon as we regain the ability to do that. Yeah, and we'll also make it so that you can't get a rental in the future. Yeah, we'll- The very base like a level of human rights. He says I fear for some other households who might have had some sense of relief and security with this delay in events and having that taken away from them. Adam was also sent a hardship application form which asks whether or not they intend to take money from their superannuation. McKinnis Property Management did not respond to a phone call requesting comments.

Yeah, it's interesting to see the people who are clearly like, we've got to get out ahead of this thing with being pieces of shit. I got an email from my real estate, the 19th of March, which I think was about six months ago, and this was their like coronavirus advice and they're like don't let us come around to visit you if you have a fever, a sore throat, cough fatigue, with you breathing, let us know if you're in quarantine, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you are planning to be present at the time of routine inspection, blah, blah, blah, blah, we ask you to keep 1.5 meters between yourself and our representative or

tradesperson, very cool. And then at the bottom there's little section says, rent payments, we understand that these are difficult times, but your obligation to pay rent under your tenancy remains unchanged. Cool. Thanks. It doesn't sound like you understand at all. They're just sending you a big old post post to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the to the to the the the the to the to the the the the the to the the to the to to to to to to the little to toe toe. toetermant toe. toe. toe. top. top. their their their their their. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.a.a.a. their. their. represent doesn't sound like you understand at all. They're just sending you a big old poster with the little kitten hanging off the branch saying, hang in there and then stapled to it as an envelope saying, please fill with money. Underneath hang in there, they're written, or else, in Sharpie. I think you need to, um, you need to just send them a thing that says, I am extremely sick

and will be for the foreseeable future. I actually have super coronavirus. I keep breathing on my notes. I can't figure out how else to pay. So fuck those guys. Making things harder for people than it needs to be, you know? So speaking of people doing it tough and things being kind of shit all over, we did ask people to call in to the old Houtline and...

What was that? Hurtle line? Hurtle line. Yeah. Let us know how it's going, you know. The hoodline. Hurtle line. Hurtle line. Uh-huh. Yeah. Let us know how it's going, you know. So some various friends of the show have called in with some thoughts and feelings about this.

Should we listen to some voicemails, fellas? Yeah, why not? Yeah, why not. Yeah, here we go. Hey guys. It's Alana. Um, yeah, it comes in a wave, you know, like, you have like, this times, you like, oh, it's not too bad, it's fine, I can distract myself, and then there are the ponds where it's just feels so awful, like, really bad, about, I feel really bad about the world, you know? And it gives us what helps, but I'm in my shit off, tiny, the, things, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, the the the things, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the wi, it comes, it comes, it, it, it comes, it comes, it comes, it about the world, you know. And it gives us a help that I'm in my shit-off, tiny studio apartment by myself,

and I started, you know, it's such a good like diet and exercise and drinking regime going on. And then, you know, I've just ate a whole bunch of shit and I've just drank a lot and it made you feel so bad and it's still like constant like a low-level depression and yesterday I was like you know what get back to that exercise and good food and it made me feel a bit better but man I don't know how to do it this shit. I do not know and I feel awful about the world and it made me feel a bit better, but man, I don't know how to do it to this shit. I do not know and I feel awful about the world and it sucks. Bye. Yeah.

Damn if it ain't true. Yeah, I mean, I think that's something that people really, really have to hold on to and exert their rights on where they can if you can in your job and you're working from home or you're doing, doing whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their their their their their their their their their th, and I th, and I th, and I their, and I their, and I their, and I their their their their their their their their the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, and the world, their their their their their their their the exert their rights on where they can, if you can in your job and you're working from home or you're doing whatever, that mental health is health and you owe it to yourself to make sure that you take what you need for yourself. And I think people will really find it tough. I think the isolation will be tough. I think the uncertainty will be really difficult. And so I think more than ever, it's important for people to support each other, to be open

and honest. And, but also, you know, if you're in a job that's essential or what happens, or what happens, or what you honest, but also, you know, if you're in a job that's essential or what have you to take the time that you need to exercise and be healthy and look after yourself, because I think it's very easy to kind of try and take it all on and and feel like, well, if I'm doing stuff for myself, if I'm watching Netflix or doing whatever I need to do to kind of stay sane that I should feel guilty about it or something like that and I don't think that people, I think people need to do what they need to do to get by. So I think I think, Alana, thank for for sending the message and I think yeah just

just try and support each other and yeah are you I'm not sure if it's the we've we've actually had a lot of support and kind of help from for one another on the discord as well which I've been really really happy to see as you guys are probably quite aware but I think you need to find those communities and find how you can support each other through this. So yeah. No joke. No, no joke here at all. It's very tough and I think that I said this on the last episode when we talked about

this, just acknowledging that it's okay to feel like shit. Not letting yourself feel guilty about that, I think is very important. And, you know, not everyone's going to have the same coping mechanisms. Not being able to exercise is not necessarily going to be the worst thing in the world for some people or whatever, but if that's your normal coping routine, and you find yourself either not able to to do it to to to the to to to the to the to to to the to be the to be to be their to be their their to be their to be their their their their their their their to be their their thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi thi, thi thi, thi thi, thi......... thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi, thi, thi, if that's your normal coping routine, and you find yourself either not able to do it or just not wanting to do it because life is sapping your fucking juir de Vrieve or whatever at the moment, it can be tough to manage that. I, George and I, like, just from fucking looking at our recycling, we're like drinking so much more than we normally do. I'm not doing the exercise I normally do. The previous, the parts, the parts of, the parts of, the parts of, the parts of, the parts of, the parts, the parts, the parts, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th the exercise I normally do, you know, the previous, the parts of my job

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But... What's going to give you brain diarrhea? And what will? You know? Reading the news. Should we chuck another one on here? Yeah, why not? Speaking of essential jobs. Here we go. Good evening folks. how am I? I am still at work in dangering my health and everyone's around me for the mobile cause of selling books.

It's like the internet, but you kill the tree to make it for the sublime privilege of continuing to disseminate the works of Jordan v. Peterson in the face of a world-altering catastrophe. I am currently remunerated less than the planned way subsidy. This kicks ass to me. It's good actually. Check out my mouthpiece. Take care of there. Yeah, I gotta say, I'm sure I've mentioned on the show that I am extremely lucky to work in the kind of job where a couple of weeks ago I could just make the call and say, you know what, I'm just working from home from now on.

And it seemed like, you know, some people around the business that already basically made the decision for themselves, like, you know, half a week before work made the call to say, you know, we're going to start closing down our offices and everyone will work from home and that sort stuff. I'm very lucky that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi thi thi that to say to say to to to that to that. to to that. to to to that. to that. that. that that that that that to say, you know, we're going to start closing down our offices and everyone will work from home and that sort of stuff. I'm very lucky that I have a job I can do from home. And I just keep thinking to myself about all the friends we have out there who, you know, I don't know what's worse. I don't know if it's worse, like to work at a bar or a cafe or any of those places that have suddenly out to shut and your income's been you know cut off suddenly or if it's worse to work at like J.B. Highfile Bunnings or something like that and have to go in every single day and make contact with hundreds of people who won't stop going into the fucking store.

Like, and yeah, like I call her there was just saying, if you're just in a bookstore being like, what the fuck are you coming in here for? Just stop. Just stop. And you know, we're also starting to get all those reports through of like, um, different workplaces, where, uh, different workplaces where different workplaces like I read a report of a McDonald's where they had an employee with a positive coronavirus test and they just didn't tell anybody else who was working there so yeah and

another one that I saw on Twitter recently which was a lady who's son was working in like a call center, I think, type environment. And they had somebody there who had tested positive for coronavirus, and they didn't tell anybody, and they let them all keep working there. And meanwhile, the managers had been working from home for weeks. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and this lady had been working from home for weeks. Jesus Christ. Yeah and this lady was just like my son was sacrificed to this business you know.

They obviously said, oh the managers are important and they can work from home but the rest of them we just won't tell them about it. So I can understand all of this making you feel pretty crazy at the moment, you know? So yeah, like I said, I just don't know, I don't know what's better or worse or whatever is it to suddenly be out of work, but at least have the knowledge of like, at least I can stay home and stay out of it and look after myself, at least with some of the announcements around like New Start and that jobkeeper allowance even though obviously it's bad to split. It seems fucking insane but

yeah. Yep. Even though, well I mean I think the obvious issues with it are number one that they're routing that money through businesses instead of taking it to employees. And number two, it's a more convenient way for a conservative government of dividing the unemployed workers into deserving and non-deserving of help. Because that way, anybody who's on New Start, who was already on New Start, you can say you can say oh well you were just a jobless plent before that point but if you lost your job

directly as a result of coronavirus then you deserve help. You deserve to be looked after. We're looking after some lifters that are currently leaning instead of leaners. Yes. So you know I mean maybe your bookstore will close and that would be good. That would be good. Yeah. I don't think that the store should be open personally. I hope you stay safe, anonymous caller. It is definitely what I would think of as non-essential.

I was going to say when you were talking about like, you know, you guys were talking about mental health and getting exercise and stuff like that, I think for wife of the show, my wife, Elna, and I, we've both been just doing heaps of like gardening and landscaping and stuff around our house and fixing things and all that sort of stuff. So we've just been, I guess, channeling a lot of that energy into those sorts of things. And obviously like, you know, digging up a garden bed or getting up and cleaning out the gutters or whatever, all those things are good exercise. But I understand that for a lot of people, if you're renting a place, you either can't do those things or you don't have a yard to do anything in, or there's no point in spending your money on improving you know somebody else's property or anything like that but if you do

have the ability to do those things then it's definitely good but that's that's how that stuff sort of been I guess manifesting for me at the moment you know elders definitely been baking baking a lot of bread and all that sort of thing. We've been doing the anxiety baking or whatever. We did have the first instance last night of one of my kids, my older daughter, who's six, just being like really anxious about it all. Just being upset and like not feeling good about everything, you know? Because it's hard. It's hard to figure out, you know, it's not like you can say,

well, we're just going to not talk to them about it because they can't see any friends, they can't see their grandparents, you know, we're already sort of trying to manage the kind of expectations of like, hey, that birthday party you've been excited about for the preceding 11 months. This is the thing with kids this age, they're just like talking about their fucking what birthday party they're going to have next for 51 weeks of the year. And they, you know, they get all their ideas and they want to plan what they want to do and all that sort of thing.

And I think, yeah, my older daughter decided to come to the realization of that sort of stuff is not going on if this all sort of thiiiiiaa, thiiiiiiolome, thiol, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thi. thin, thi. thiii. thii. thii. thi. And it's also difficult because they don't really have a concept of time, the same that we do. I mean, I barely have a concept. Yeah, mine is going right out the window at the moment. I have no idea. Oh, it's... I'm regressing. Yeah, and that's all hard enough, especially if you're like trying to do the right right right right right right right right right right right right right right the right the right th right th right th right th right th right th right to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to do the right thing and like not leave your house, you know? So yeah, you know, I think we've been doing everything that we can, you know, to reassure our kids that they're going to be fine, we're going to be fine, and it's because we're really

trying to do the right thing, which is to stay home and not go out if we don't need to and to do all of the social distancing and all that sort of stuff. But I also understand that that is a privilege that a lot of people don't have. It's a luxury that a lot of people don't have. So I think I've shared some feelings with our next caller. Nate calling in from Salt Lake City. Hi, this message is for Buntavista. Long-time listener first-time caller. This is Nate from Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA and I am

calling in to the podcast. First off I'd like to say good-day Mike and let you know that I'm in honor of your podcast, I am cracking in ice cold fosters, fosters, and I just wanted to respond to your question about how I'm doing. And honestly, I see a lot of people say that they're really struggling. A lot of my phones are on the verge of absolute madness and I'm doing fine and I'm actually thriving. I really like being at home and I really like not working. So I just hang out with my dog and make some food and take naps. And it's the perfect life for me.

It's a total affront to God and to everybody who works for a living and, you know, contributes to society. And I am perfectly fine with it. And, you know, maybe some of you out there will understand how the fields, you know, do not have a conscience. But, I mean, if it, if anyone resents my perfect lifestyle, just know that pretty soon I'm not going to be able to pay my bills. And that's bad. But, you know, right now it's not bringing me down because I honestly have the brain of a monkey

and I can't envision anything in the future. So it is what it is. Thanks for all you do. God bless. Throw another shrimp on the bobby mate. And hi Ben, shout out to Ben. In particular, Ben, you should, uh, you should, uh, to the, uh, the, Ben you should come back to the US pal okay God bless right I love that man just what put that on record bless his soul I have spent less than 24 hours

with him in real life I think I we went for a couple of hikes and then we camped somewhere and then I had to depart the next morning and it was such a blissful, wonderful time. He's a physically handsome and spiritually beautiful man. God bless you, Nate. There you go. I, there's a part of me that, like, I have a lot more free time at the moment than I ever do, and the part of me that's not losing my mind is like, this is kind of great. Like, I'm reading a lot of books.

I'm, it's about it really. I'm reading a lot of books, and that feels kind of nice. Like, I'm kind a lot of books. I'm... It's about it really. I'm reading a lot of books. And that feels kind of nice, but then it's very conflicted because the reason I have spare time is because I'm not doing the other work I would normally be doing, which is something else that brings me immense joy. It's weird. It's a weird feeling to just be like, ah, you know what, it's nice to be able

to sit down sometimes. They'll be like, wait, no, I'm sitting down because I literally cannot do anything else. Yeah, I think, like, I share a lot of the feelings from that message of feeling like, you know, I'm, I'm going okay, you know, everything's fine. And like, part of that is in sort of that is in, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiii, thi, thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm okay, I'm going okay, you know, everything's fine. And like, part of that is in sort of fundamental things that some people might not have control over, you know, like, um, I mean, you kind of do it in a way, but you kind of don't. We're like, I, I get along really well with my wife. She's, she's the only person I want to hang out with anyway, you know? Like, I, I, like, like, like, like, I, like, I, I, like, like, I, like, I, I, like, I, I, like, I, like, like, I, like, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I don, I, I, I don, I don, I don, I don, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I don't, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, I don't, We're like, I get along really well with my wife. She's the only person I want to hang out with anyway, you know? Like I don't, generally, I have to like pretend,

oh, it's stopping me from all the going out I was doing, you know. I wasn't doing shit anyway. My life is very centered around my home, my little family and everything. I live a very suburban life. 90-something percent of the time, I'm going to say more than 95 percent of the time. The only reason I'm leaving the house is to commute to work and go and work in the office. And so now I don't have to do that. I get up and I have a shower and I eat some breakfast and drink some coffee and I just walk into another room and sit down and start doing my job. And it means that I get back like an hour and a half, two hours a day that I would normally be sitting in a car and like listening to a podcast or

walking from a car park to work and paying money to leave my car there and pay money to fucking put petrol in the car and all that sort of stuff. And to me that's really nice to not have to do any of that, you know. I'm sort of secretly hoping that if I can keep my job through all of this and me and all the people I've worked with, all the people I work with have shown, hey we can actually, we're all very productive from home and everything, maybe I'll just be able to do this on a most of my time basis, you know. But at the same time, it's also impossible to not be permanently extremely conscious of, like just the crushing psychic weight of how much change this is rendering in the

world right now. Well, not according to Nate. Here's what we call in the medical industry, a blessed brain. Yes, the dream. He's had a case of monkey transplant and he's doing fine. I gotta get that monkey brain. He's fucked up. It's very expensive keeping a normal brain that, well I assume my brain does the normal

thawn. Yeah, definitely. You're the default healthy brain that everyone should aspire to for sure. Yep. But yeah, I just think that like, I really identify with that idea of on on some level, I'm really enjoying aspects of this, this thing that has suddenly been forced, like, all these all these employers have suddenly been forced to say, oh actually it turns out everyone can work from home full time. We hadn't checked, you know. We never really looked into it, we were going to.

It's on the list. You know how that whole time you were asking about it and we were saying no. You pay $10 a day and bus for as you spend an hour on the bus one way and spend an hour on the bus the other way. It turns out you could have just not done that. Well and of course so much of it depending on your workplace, so much of it is about, so much of it is about policing your time and being able to say, I think it's that it's all world, it's that all world, especially like obviously we're talking about offices. We're not to to to to to to the to to the to to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the tho their thea their their their th their th their th th thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. te, te, te. te. te. te te te te te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t it's that all world, old world, especially, like obviously we're talking about

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diversion, and at worst I was making the world worse place. And now everything I do is frivolous. I'm either teaching people in a bar how to paint Warhammer figures. I am putting on trash movies for people also in a bar, or I'm doing a podcast, which is the most pretend thing in the world. And like, at least none of these things have the pretension of being useful or meaningful. Like, I tell people what I do for a living, and they're like, that sounds fun., and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, yeah, and I, yeah, and I, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, yeah, and I'm like, th, th, and I'm like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tell people what I do for a living and they're like, yeah, it is. I just do fun stuff. It's not... Tell me if I did this entire bit on the podcast recently, or if I was just telling a friend

about it, about, about like, talking to this person I work with about, you know, there's some very vague managerial thing and I said, look, you know, it's a really, it's a really trifling complaint because on the whole I really like working here and I said, I know this seems like a really, really low bar, but I feel like, you know, we're not doing any harm in the world. And they laughed. And I was like, no, I'm serious. I was like, you know, I worked for like an energy company for years. When I got hired by them, they were sort of touting that they were you know Australia's biggest renewable energy retailer and across the course of the time that I worked there Tony Abbott got elected and they dismantled the carbon pricing

thing and the entire narrative in the country became around how much is your energy bill and nothing else matters and like like all of the promotional stuff in our company around renewable energy just slowly disappeared. That everything was just about how you can save money and how much things cost and all that sort of stuff. And so you know I was I was working for a place that was doing like exploration all that sort of stuff. And I've done like government contracts that were in parts of like human services. So you know which is the same place that has Centilink and all those other departments that fuck up people's lives on a daily basis. And like I wasn't working on I wasn't working on like

Robodead or anything like that but I still had that thing of like yeah on some level I'm working to enable the enable the output of the place that does that to people every day you know just those sorts of things where even if it's even if it's indirect you still have that feeling of like oh oh, or like, you know, working in like marketing and advertising and shit like that, where it's like, my job is to try and make people buy things they don't really want. My job is to make banner ads, you know, all those kinds of things. And the job that I have now, I'm like, you know what, we make products, people who want them, come them, come them, come them, come them, come them, come them, come them, them, them, them, them, them, them, th th th th tham tham tham tham, tham, tham, tham, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thin, thin, that, thin, that, thin, thi. And, thin, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, tha. And the job that I have now I'm like, you know what, we make products, people who want them, come and buy them, they actually use them for stuff. Nobody's getting tricked

into anything, nobody's using anything that they don't want to use. And my job is just to make those things better for people to use. And that's it. I'm like, that's good to me. I feel like I'm no, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th I'm like, that's good to me. I feel like I'm not active. Like I have no, you know, we've talked about like, remember when we listen to that fucking workplace culture thing from that King Kong ad agency. The digital, I live and breathe digital marketing. And we read the, we read the copy from the ad and everything. And we were all just like pulling out our own teeth, thinking about being that kind of person who's like,

I live to get up in the morning and be a digital marketing warlord and like huffing your own fucking farts that badly, believe in your own hype like that. Genuinely my one thing now where the workplace is just like I don't harbor any illusions that like the thing I'm doing th-like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thing thing the thing thi the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, the the the thi, the the the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin Genuinely, my one thing now with a workplace is just like, I don't harbor any illusions that like, the thing I'm doing is actively making the world a better place. I just want a, I'm not actively harming anyone kind of scenario going. Oh. Hey, should we listen to one or two more voice males and then get out of here? Yeah, why not?

Sure. Why the fuck not? Here we go. Oh, boys, I am an essential worker because I work at school and everyone in my chat is passive-aggressive, and it sucks to read. But on the other hand, I'm the only person, literally the only person. and everyone in my chat is passive aggressive and it sucks to read. But on the other hand, I'm the only person, literally the only person in the office, so I can listen to whatever I want and that's pretty cool I guess.

Nobody can want to do. That is pretty good. What are you going to do? Silver lining? It's silver lining. I used to work in a design studio, many, many years ago. You remember when people used to listen to shit like Pandora? Yeah. And there was like a speaker in the office and like people would either play shit off like radio Pandora or whatever or people would pick stuff to like Radio Pandora or whatever or people would pick stuff to put on and like I just I remember those workplaces of not being in control of what I was listening to. Oh yeah it's terrifying.

Oh there are few things few things that make me want to fucking shoot myself more than being forced to listen to. If I get in the car and turn on the car and my wife was left the radio on, I'm like immediately freaking out. Quick, turn it off. No, I must be in complete control of the songs or else they drive me nuts. But if you do have access to the work sound system and it's the kind of one that lets you cue shit up, just put on Neil Sisseraeager's mouth moods and just somehow put that on repeat and also lock the device

so that it can't be touched. Oh my goodness. Let's take one last one here. Good day, Buntor. This is Fall Feathers from the Discord. Currently in Southern California, everything is going to pitch up. Went to the supermarket for the 50th anniversary, still in the salt paper, still the hand, sanny. The baggers aren't taking the bag any more, I don't take them recycled bags. We can't touch anything that I bring th th th th th th th then that I then that I that I then that I then then then the th baggers aren't taking the bag anymore, they can't tou-recycle bags, so they can't touch anything that I bring in. I have to put my credit card in the counter, and

then they have to take it off the counter and then hand it back to me by putting it on the counter. So I'm not going to get intimate with anyone reach you. Yeah, it's basically hell. My husband just had me say that and you don't seem too impressed. I don't go but he laughing he says okay bye. Oh yes he does, he does, bye. Thank you for taking the time to just out yourself as horny listener. Yeah, delightfully horny listener. Horny on bonus which has become main. That's it. That's it. Also, never say the words Hansani again to me. Oh, I actually, I like that.

I like that a lot. I liked Hans Sennie too. I liked the reassuring nature of having an Australian call-in from America. It's nice. I think an American accent might have been too abrasive. That was good and reassuring to my ears. Yes, yes, especially it was it it just relaxed me. I would have been anxious but it relaxed me to hear that instead of things being disastrous that they had in fact gone tits up. He should we should we cap it off with a little coder, a little feel-good

coder? I do love a coder. Yeah you guys want a little coder, a little feel-good coder. I do love a coder. Yeah, you guys want a little coder? Um, so throw your mind back to... You've been dying. You've a diner. No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to do it. There is one on the list here, a guardian article called the man whose wife sleeps with the gardener. I'm not going to do you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, yeah, yeah, you guys, you, you guys, you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you you, you you, you, you, you you, you you, you you, you, you you, you, you, you, you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you you, you you, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys you guys th you guys you guys th th you guys called The Man Who's Wife Sleeps with the Gardener. I'm not going to do that unless he think I should.

Which is not the name of a John LeCara novel by the way. Oh my... So I initially actually had by John LeCar written on the notes. And Andrew's like, what the fuck is this story? And then he took it out. You guys really are the same. We really are. Everyone's different except for theater. I'm going to blast through two things now, okay?

So one, Koder on the story from Joshua earlier with the landlord. Joshua emailed back to the landlord. And said, ah, to this end, Henry and I think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is th th th think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is think is only is only is only is only is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the landlord and said, to this end, Hemry and I think is only fair that we understand our landlord's income and living expenses to reassess what is fair for everyone. Our landlord is welcome to refuse, but it will make it difficult to establish if they are in genuine distress. As per the article you provided, we would like to know whether the landlord is taking advantage of the mortgage payment reprieve. Does the landlord have accrued leave, savings, etc. with which they could cover mortgage repayments. And the real estate company emailed back saying, we've been trying to call you, we'll be in touch. It rules so much. Can I just ask, if you're listening to this right now and you're not saying driving a car or in public or whatever, can you just stand up and salute? That is all that I ask of you.

Just salute towards friend of the show, Joshua Badge. Well earned. Joshua badge well-earned. Absolutely. And so we will leave it there for the rest this week. Thank you for supporting the show. Thank you for listening to this on the free feed if you do not support show as a patron but you can't always do that if you want and yeah just just try and do your best to look after each other, everybody. If you are able to support other people in an online community like Twitter or Discord, try and stay away from Facebook, if you can, come on. Nobody's doing anything sensible on Facebook.

But if you can support anybody through any kind of online communities, obviously a lot of people are really jumping on all of the video chat apps Hangouts and Skype and Facebook Messenger for some reason Malware app zoom stop using that. Just use one of the other things you've already given all of your personal information to Google just keep using that one But but yeah, obviously a lot of people have been using those to sort of check in with some people, have some drinks after work, you know, on a Saturday night, whatever. Just get as much human contact as you can, especially if you are the type of person who needs that for your brain to continue to survive. I am not but I'm going

through the motions as Oh, God bless you. I'm going through the motions as though I am a normal person who needs to interact with others. You know? When I was talking to Eln, about like, hey, maybe I'll just get to work at home all the time now, and she was like, wouldn't you miss the socialization though? And I was like, no. No, I wouldn't. Wouldn't you miss your fucking friends from school? That's all officers are. They take you in there and you've got to be friends with the people there

because you fucking live within the same area code or whatever. You're in the same, right? Same fucking postcode. So you all got to be parents. Then you go home at 3 p.m. For the next two years, you leave it at 3 p.m. That's all workplaces are. If I want to be friends with someone from work, I'm friends with them outside of work.

Other than that, I'll just stay home, thanks. So look after each other. Be good. Maybe send each other some links of a nice to be like, you know? Yeah, it's a nice one. Put playlist together for people. Not like, don't just generally sort of be like, hey, here's a song I like. Pick specific people and be like, based on our mutual interests and what I know that you already like, here's some stuff I think you will enjoy.

I've been thinking about you. Love your lots. Send them the you will enjoy. I've been thinking about you. Love your lots. Be well. Send them the post. It's easy to do now. You don't have to dub the tape anymore. You don't even... I've got a place for you. It's by dog dick bong lord. It's 700 hours long. You'll love it. Oh, you have been thinking of Ben. Okay. Fantastic. All right. Thanks everybody. And we'll talk to you next to. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. the the the the to you. the the the the the the the the the th th the tho tho the tho the tho. tho. tho. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the. And the. And the. And the. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape. And tape. tape. And tho. And tho. And tho. And the right, thanks everybody and we'll talk to you next week. Look after yourselves. you know the today