Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 14 - Tut’s Summer Slam of Mangoes

Episode Date: May 6, 2023

On this week's episode we'll be discussing the sale of WWE to Endeavor, King Tut, and Mangoes!

Welcome, everyone, to the one, the only Brain Soda podcast. As always, I am your host, Kyle, joined by my co-hosts and cohorts, Brad, and Frog. What's going on? Today, we're going to be talking about mangoes, we're going to be talking about King Tut. But first, gentlemen, as of WrestleMania weekend, WWE finally has a buyer. It is Endeavor, the current owner of UFC. Now, when I was researching this guys, I found it really, really interesting. So before we get to in the weeds on this subject, have you guys ever seen the show entourage?

Yes. I haven't, I haven't like watched it, but I know the show. So Ari Gold, the agent, the large crux of a lot of the show is Ari Gold, Jeremy Piven's character. He's actually modeled directly off Endeavor's CEO, Ari Emanuel. Also yeah, absolutely. And also Ari Emanuel is the brother to Ram Emanuel, who was like a member of the White House and is the current ambassador to Japan.

They also have another brother, Zeke, who's part of like the COVID-19 administration group or whatever else. That sounds like they kind of got their fingers and a lot of things. They certainly do. Yeah. So there are some prevalent brothers in our nation, but beyond that, I did find it really interesting that Ram has had such a political position for a long time. But so as a company, Endeavor, as we know it now, really came around 2009 when it formed

with William Morris because they were both talent agencies originally. Really? Yeah. And that's where Ari Gold is the basis from because Ari Emanuel was like one of the big biggest players in the Hollywood scene and like, I'm not sure if Tom Cruise and Jerry McGuire is modeled off him, but these guys represent Endeavor currently, represents the NHL and NFL. They actually own another sports league, I guess you could call it.

They own the PBR, the Pro Bull Riders Association or whatever. Really? Yeah. I was like, really? They own that? That's kind of weird. That's funny. They own so much stuff.

It is a really interesting company to look at, but anyway, with that being said, we're going to ignore the rest of Endeavor, although it is an interesting company and maybe something that I'll look back on later. But Endeavor bought UFC from the Fratida Brothers for $4 billion a number of years ago. That estimated value has now risen to $12 billion and WWE is estimated in value at $9 billion a little more. That's crazy. And hold on, I was just thinking about this episode the other day when you were talking

about Yahoo and Google being bought for $5 billion and you're saying that the UFC was bought for $5 billion? Oh, four. My research came up with $4 billion. I thought it was only $2 million back in 2001, I thought. That's probably when the Fratida Brothers bought it because they bought it from Dana White. It was bigger when, yes, but it just amazes me that Google is almost the same price as

UFC. Well, not around the same time, but still kind of in their invancies. And also, I think you have to take into account what industry you're dealing with at one point versus another. At that point, listen, I am not going to sit here and try to expound my preferences, but I want you guys to remember back to when UFC really broke nationwide and became as big as it did. It had a lead-in, which television lead-ins is a strong base for your numbers as a rating,

overall and in general. Ratings mean significantly less now than they ever have before, but what was the ultimate fighter's lead-in? I'll wait for it. What was it? A lead-in is the show before. Yep. You're talking about?

Yep. Oh. So, the reality show competition that UFC put out to find a new, you know, a new talent to get their name out there in exposure, and it's all lead-in by WWE coming off of its hottest part creatively and buying its competition. That's crazy. Sheen McMahon actually wanted to buy the UFC at one point too. So, it's like a flip-flop, essentially.

Kind of. Yeah. Kind of. So, now, are they going to stay their own entities? Are they ever going to? So, yes. This is one of the interesting things I really found about it. So, as far as the structure overall, Ari Emanuel is going to stay on as the head CEO of this

company, which is going to be valued at $21 plus billion and sold on the New York Stock Exchange. I was going to say, you're saying that, yeah, it's going to IPO soon, right? It's going to be a new company overall, so I don't know if it's going to be Endeavor Combat Sports or whatever they're going to call it, but it will be a joint company with both of these. They're already both on the public market, or on the Stock Exchange, right? I don't know if UFC is, but Endeavor is.

WWE has been since like 2001 or something like that. Okay, now really quick. Ari Emanuel will be the CEO of, we'll call it Endeavor Combat or whatever once it's ready to be sold. He will stay on as the CEO. Vince McMahon is going to be a chief executive, whereas Dana White will be the president of the UFC, and Nick Khan is going to move up and be the president of the WWE going forward. Who's Nick Khan?

Nick Khan is actually another guy who was like a Hollywood agent, a childhood friend of the Rocks, and a lot of people say that when he came into power in WWE, it was to help facilitate a deal just like this, to help find a buyer. This is stuff I didn't know, Kyle. You're blowing my mind, like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I didn't know there was such an intertwined relationship. I mean, it makes sense, but like, it's crazy that it's just been meant to happen one way or another.

It's like, which one's going to buy which, you know? Well, I mean, let's be honest about it. Shane McMahon, for many of the different things that I think could ever be said about him, I think always has had a mind like his dad's, but like, he had his dad in the way and his dad's the same way. So like, his dad's just go, go, go, go, go, go, even at 77, this is like knocking on the door to run creative and do this and that, and well, dude, and he looks like Mr. House now from fall on New Vegas, dude, every time I see him now with that mustache, he looks

like he looks like someone rejuvenated Clark Gable's corpse. It's horrifying and hilarious at the same time. But back to Shane McMahon, the point I'm making is like, he wanted to buy ECW at one point, he wanted to buy the UFC at one point, and then like ECW folded up, uh, USC. Into WCW. No, they folded because of bankruptcy. Well, I'm just saying, like, I remember when ECW and WCW. They bought the rights to that got a bankruptcy court, though, like there's a big difference

between and then AOL Time Warner happened and they just wanted WCW off their books. Even though it was one of the best rated shows they had on television, they were like, we don't want it as part of their portfolio. And then without a TV deal, Eric Bischoff's buyers backed out and then they, they came in there and scooped it up for pennies on the dollar almost. I mean, there's, there's a lot of people who believe there was some sort of inside track for Vince McMahon to buy that company the way that he did, but we're, we're not talking about that today.

Yeah. Sorry. When are they, like, is this, is it going to affect anything, honestly, like other than just who owns the stuff? Like are they really going to change much? This happened right immediately after WrestleMania weekend and the raw after WrestleMania creatively. We're talking creative right now. There were a lot of fingerprints to say that Vince McMahon had a dealing with that.

There is a lot of rumblings around the rumor mill, which granted, it's wrestling, telephone, tele-friend, tele-wrestler, but the rumor is that guys like Drew McIntyre and Bayley, big headline stars for their divisions are upset with the creative, with the money and they're not looking to like renew. They may not be as happy with their situation as they were, say six months ago when Vince was not in the level of position that he was and Triple H was in the creative position that he has been and supposedly will continue to be as the chief creative officer. Okay.

The thing that sucks about this is now WWE and UFC as offices are going to have a lot of layoffs. You're not going to pay to have double the people in production, double the people here, double the people there. You're just not. Now I will say this for transparency's sake, again, I don't watch UFC. I believe they subcontract for their production and WWE, if you want to say anything about a wrestling company, WWE has the production level.

Oh, for sure. Like WWE is that's all they are really. I mean, not all they are production is the thing. You know, like, I mean, when they do movies, yeah, they do like you can say whatever you want about Vince, Vince bought his dad's company for a million dollars in 1982 and turned into a company that just in this year is going to sell for $9 billion inflation and whatever else I completely agree. But like, dude, nowhere close to yeah, one, one million to nine billion is no inflation

doesn't touch that. Well, let's just take into a fact that like television rights have changed the way that they are to. I mean, I'm not saying just inflation, I'm saying variables within the marketplace that he was in. Sure. Right. But here's a guy who saw a couple states and a couple good wrestlers and you can make

yourself a couple, cool million every couple years and when I could go national, yeah. Once he saw the advent of cable, I can go national and did it. I mean, there's a reason that guy has made the money in the ladies that he is like it's literally like the WWE is a cultural thing like it's it's such a it's so ingrained in our society. Like, you know, like the rock and things like that, you know, like he's like one of the biggest movie stars. Oh, yeah.

Savage and Stone Cold, John Cena. Exactly. Like it's it's just crazy. I think one of the reasons why you see a Vince McMahon above Dana White and in a laid out header of where these companies are going is if you look at Vince, Vince's big push for WrestleMania happened with things like Saturday Night Main Event. And that happened because he had a connection with Dick Embersall of NBC Sports. And I think like they already have the Peacock deal there.

You know what I mean? Like UFC, I think burnt a lot of bridges for them in the pay-per-view market because nobody can spend not nobody, but like it's a hard sell to spend $60 to $70 on the UFC pay-per-view that month. And then the WrestleMania or whatever the next week for another, you know, 40, 50 bucks, 60 bucks, whatever it would have been. Yeah. But I think there's always been this kind of aura about Vince when it comes to the way

people describe his business as, you know, he's in the wrestling business, but he calls it sports entertainment. And then he'll diversify out and obviously they all sold toys and merchandise, but like they became a conglomerate for toys, albums, t-shirts, ice cream bar. You know what I mean? Like they were the multimedia professional wrestling company. And then they started making movies. And then they start, you know what I mean?

So like to see what endeavor is as a company makes a lot of sense in connection to why Vince would have a higher position than Dana White. And I don't necessarily believe the controversies that either of these guys have been involved in Dana White or Vince really is going to matter. Vince also did pay back like $174 million to the company, apparently. That would be probably accumulating for the funds that he. That doesn't matter to me, like, you know, like that. No, it doesn't, but I, but it would be when you're an investor.

Sure. Yeah. Screw investors, but yeah. No, absolutely. But we're talking about the sale of a company. My point is, is that the one thing that I find problematic besides, because I do believe that both companies will stay themselves. You'll probably see some cross promotion, but like you will not see anokeism.

At one point, Antonia Onoki, the guy who found a new Japan pro wrestling was founding an MMA company. Pride was huge in Japan and he started incorporating his wrestlers into both of those companies and mixed martial arts as a sport and almost destroyed it. I think hopefully these guys will learn from that lesson and they'll just have it where a Roman Reigns will come out with a Conor McGregor. That'd be cool. Like they did with Floyd Mayweather.

There's going to be more people going from the USC to the WWE. That's probably what's going to happen more often. That's already been happening though. Yeah. I don't disagree with that. Exactly. But more often, you know, like that's, you know, it's going to be a retirement path, essentially not a retirement, but you know, a transition, a career transition.

Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah. I completely agree with that. If they have connections to talent agencies, they were one themselves and incorporated with one of themselves to become the company they are today. So when you see Ronda Rousey appear in the Expendables and appear in WWE, I mean, that is already things that are happening and will continue to happen in higher number.

I don't disagree with that. Let's talk about the problematic issue. When it comes down to it and you look at this board, you have a guy who just had a litany of sex crimes he had to either settle or ignore and walked away from the company that had been in his family for 70 years to get to this sale for. And then you got a guy, I know he made a whole television show about it, but you had a guy in Dana White who just got caught slapping his wife in public. So it does feel at times like, will this become a big boys club?

Like you could argue WWE was for years because there was more than just Vince passing around women in that company. You know what I mean? And like a lot of times that is garnered from an environment where your boys will be boys. You know what I mean? And like that's- No, it sounds like, I mean, I don't know about the Vince and I really don't, we don't need to go into this thing, but it just sounds like a Harvey Weinstein thing to me.

Kind of. Yeah. No, it is a similar to that. It is. Yeah. But spousal abuse is a huge problem too. Yeah. Well, for sure.

You know what I mean? Like that's not, let's not dismiss the sins that we know of. Not at all. Right. Like that's, that's ridiculous. And the fact that that happened in public, like imagine what happens behind closed doors. And Ari Emanuel said literally nothing about it. This guy has had literally no repercussions.

Yeah, he didn't lose nothing, I don't think. No. No. And I'm going to be honest with it, man. Like, like a lot of other things, political or fan wise or whatever it may be. It's like, you can stand by your principles or you can stand by your people. But you know who did stand by his people? Who's that?

King Tut. Oh, okay. Why don't you tell us about him? All right. I mean, I don't know. He kind of died kind of early, so I don't know like how much he, but I will say that he didn't try to rebuild some temples and stuff. So yeah, what is early for his lifetime?

It's like 30, right? Yeah. He died around when he was like 18 or 19, like we're not exactly sure. Yeah. But the life expectancy would be like 30 max. Yeah, because like, I'll get into it later, but like he had some like problems and he might have died from malaria actually, but okay. So he was a Pharaoh that ruled in the 18th dynasty of ancient Egypt.

So like, this was way back, like this was that he ruled from 1332 BC to 1323. So about 10 years, but he was only like nine or 10 when he was, when he became ruler. So really like, I don't even know how much he ruled, like honestly, because you know how monarchies go, like if there's a kid ruling. Right. Yeah. He's seven years old, can barely fit into a row, but they're like, the king says, yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. Yes. Because and we'll get into this again later, but his, the next ruler after them, him was his chief advisor. So yeah. But anyways, likely the guy who ran the show in the first place. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

And may have killed him, but probably not. So he's most well known because of his discovery of his tomb, right? Like you guys know about his tomb that was discovered that was just like filled with treasure and everything. Right. He like really wasn't that important of a Pharaoh. You know, like he really was just like a kid, you know, like he'd been healing rule for 10 years, didn't really do anything other than change something that his dad did, which

his dad, Akhenaten, he ruled from like 1353 BC to 1336 BC. So he ruled for a little bit, you know, about like 20, 20 years or so. And one thing he did, which is kind of crazy. And I think the first recorded thing was he tried to create a monotheistic religion. And he wanted to rule the, the sun god, the Aten, and, and he tried to like convert all of Egypt into ruling, you know, into believing in a monotheistic religion. And obviously you can't just be like, Hey, everybody, you only worship one god now. Yeah.

Hey, you guys know how you lived your lives for like eons. Yeah. Guess what? It's a new day. Yeah. Yeah. So like, you know, people didn't like that too much. So like, it took exception.

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, when, when King Tuck took over, he did try to convert back to like, you know, the traditional religions and everything like that. Would that be like Osiris and Isis and stuff like that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

All that. Like, and even Aten was like, he was, he was part of the, the Egyptian gods, but it's just that Akhenaten was saying only, you know, he's the only god out of all of them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And actually King Tut Tutankhamun actually was Tutankhamun before his dad died and he changed it to get, you know, cause that was like worshiper of the Aten, King Aten or something

like that. Like he changed that to try to get away from that and everything, you know. I do have a question about that though. Like, is religion the only place where people's names change like that? The only like, a lot of times when like people become emperor and stuff, they change their name. Okay. Yeah.

Because I was going to say like, the only guy I can think of is David Koresh is not born as David Koresh. He named himself David Koresh as the leader of the branch Davidians. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Well, like the, the pope, his name and stuff too, but that's, you know, and also kings,

kings all the time, kings all the time change their name, like throughout history. Yeah. Like in modern days it still happens. Probably not. Maybe. Yeah. Well, emperors and stuff like that. Yep.

And his dad also tried to move the capital from thieves to Akhet, to this new place called Akhetaten, but, you know, he moved it back there and everything. Like, so he did try to like reverse it as much as he could. And the ruler after King Tut also did. After, after King Akhet, Akhenaten's death, his son-in-law, Smekhahar, brewed a little bit, but like King Tut took over after that. Like it wasn't too much after that, like a year or two after that King Tut did. Probably because he was too young, like at all, you know, to rule.

But yeah. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah. But after King Tut died, though, this guy, his, his chief advisor, it was the Fonz. The Fonz? I can pronounce that one for sure. The Fonz? No, but his name is A.

Oh. I was like, wait, his name is pronounced the Fonz? No, but that would be funny. Just pounding a jukebox. But I just, yeah. He was old, though. Like when King Tut died, like he was like 70 something or something like that. So he only ruled for like three years.

Then his son, Haremheb, took over and he actually ruled for a while, like 28 years. And he restored a lot of the order and everything and the religious and political stuff, you know, so he was a lot more known. Like King Tut, you know, again, was just like, he didn't do much. It was probably like King A that is more known, you know, or at least did more stuff. He pretty much ruled over while King Tut was just kind of like, you know, a puppet. At least in my eyes. I don't know.

I don't have any proof of that, but. Well, I mean, but you do have a certain understanding of like the life cycle back then and like by the age that he was in power, how much logistics for running a nation even in that time? Because this is Bronze Age as well. Yeah, this is definitely Bronze Age. Yeah, this is like. So is this?

So like even societies of that time, like how much logistics does he really know or understand at the time he's of age to be in power? Was he before or after pyramids? During, but like after, I would say after like the one. Closer to after them, closer to before. Yes. Well, I'm closer to after than like 2,500 B.C. What was when was when the fourth dynasty.

So it was like a thousand years after, you know, like, so that's like think of like the Middle Ages to now. That's how far that's insane. Like Egypt blows my mind, but like the tide, they were around, you know, like they were around for like 3,000 years or more, you know, which, you know, yeah. So I mean, like this is 1332 B.C. So this is like, yeah. So when did Steve Martin take over Steve Martin?

That was like 1900s, wasn't it? The actor in 1970s when he did the King Tut, the SNL, there's a song. You guys probably don't even know this. It's like some like kids song and that goes King Tut Tut. He is so divide and it's been stuck in my head ever since I started researching this guy. So the biggest thing about King Tut is obviously his tomb. You know, his tomb was untouched, essentially.

But the crazy thing about his tomb is that it really wasn't that great. It wasn't grand at all. It was kind of just thrown together because he died so young. They didn't have like time to actually build anything for him or anything, you know. And like we don't really know how he died, but he had like a clubfoot. And like, you know, we could tell from, you know, looking at his mummy and everything like that. And like he had other deformities and stuff.

So like he was probably like his spine was curved and everything. So like he might have been a product of incest that happened a lot back then. But also he might have just been bored, you know, with disabilities. Did they have to hide things like incest back then? No. Oh, no, they like, yeah, I think they do think it's like one of Akhenaten's like sisters or something like that. I don't know. Like, yeah, I didn't I didn't exactly find.

But besides that, like, even though it was a small tomb, you know, like, because he was like not a big like he died early and he wasn't that important of a king, you know, so that tomb was still filled with huge amounts of treasures because it was untouched, you know, like all the other tombs that they found before then have been robbed, obviously, you know, like they're like the pyramids and stuff like there's there's nothing but pictures in the pyramids. You know, there's no like treasures they found in the pyramids, obviously, because like it's this huge thing like look at me.

So but this was like buried and I read somewhere that like it's possibly because like another tomb got built over it by the Ramses, I think the fourth or the fifth or something. I don't know if that's true. I wasn't like a good source that I was looking it up. So don't quote me on that. I mean, it's just that like, I mean, he was a, you know, kind of a forgotten king. It was a tomb buried like in the Valley of the Kings in Luxor, Egypt.

If you guys know anything about Egypt, there's like this valley where like a bunch of pharaohs were buried, you know? So in 1922, though, this guy, Howard Carter, he had been actually like looking for King Tut's tomb for a while, like since like the 1890s. But it wasn't until 1922 when he found him. I mean, he was looking for other stuff. He's just been in Egypt since then. But in 1922 is when King Tut's tomb was found.

This was funded by this guy named George Herbert or Lord Carnarvon back in 1917. There's this, you know, I'm sure you guys heard of this myth of where King Tut's cursed, you know, he died. This Lord Carnarvon guy died from a mosquito bite, malaria, like right after they opened his tomb. So people say that, oh, it's been cursed, you know, but no, I, yeah. But yeah, he found it in 1922, right? They're looking and looking in this Valley of Kings.

And then finally, one of Carter's employees or whatever finds this, the stairs leading down to this sealed tomb, and they start looking at it. And they do see that there's like a little hole in the, in the corner. But I mean, it's essentially, you know, unbroken into and they, they open it up and they see like this, you know, this long hallway and they go down this hallway and they see like another, another door and they open that error. I'm sorry, that's where the hole was. And like they break a hole in this little hole and, you know, through this

and look through this in this room and they just see it packed, just full of treasures, you know, 3,000 year old treasures, just packed full of like this, like different furniture and chests and weapons and chariots, you know, just packed, you know, like packed full in this room. It's just amazing to think about. And that's not even the craziest part, right? And so they get in there and then they, they walk in and they find this door and in this door, there is a, there's a rope around like the two doors.

You know, it's like vault doors, whatever, right? And I don't like, this is like kind of a famous picture, but it's like, it's the picture to King Tut's tomb that's still sealed because no one has broken into it. There's been two other, there was two break ins before it was further, you know, in the future, it was found that it's been broken into twice. But no one got to his, you know, the inner shrine into his, into the burial chamber, you know? Yeah. Still to this day?

No, no, I mean, before Howard Carter, like no one had gotten in there. Yeah. Like I don't even know if anybody had been into, like, you know, the, the annex and the anti chamber, you know, like we're like, yeah, where all that stuff was, but like it had been broken into somehow or a little bit, you know, for like twice before then. But yeah, so they get to the store and like that, like, man, I could just imagine just seeing that there's pictures of like this whole process. So like you could kind of, you know, you can see what it was like.

And so they open it up and inside they find this giant sarcophagus that had like, you know, three or four layers down of different, you know, more intricate sarcophagi until you find this solid gold sarcophagus with this golden face mask of King Tut. And like they've never been found. That's never been found before in Egypt. And I don't think sense, like the whole sarcophagus, you know, like a, you know, a royal like throne like that.

Wow. I know you guys have seen the, even if you don't think you've seen the his face mask, the golden mask, you've seen it. You know, if you think of Egypt and you see a golden face mask, that's that's King Tut. Like I think half of the books that have ever been given out as part of a history class that cover like world history probably have had it in it, if not directly on the cover. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's Egypt, you know, like people, like he became like that is

what real, I mean, Egypt's always been interesting to people, but like that brought so much knowledge to Egypt and so much more, you know, awareness to it, you know, I guess. And like, it's just crazy, like what they were able to find there. Yep. So Brad, where, where exactly is this gold at now? So yeah, a lot of it is in Egypt, but there is like a traveling, you know, like it goes around, I think it's owned by Britain, you know, obviously that Howard Carter, you know, he took most of the stuff, like most of it is owned by

there's this museum and it's like the Louvre of Great Britain. Yeah. Yeah. And it came to America a couple of years ago. If I'm not mistaken, because there's so there was so much stuff, you know, in there, like more than just that, like there was the treasury contained like all the treasures, you know, and like there was a what's called a laboratory that had like perfumes and oils and stuff like that where there was used for his embalming. So like there was there was a lot of stuff, but a lot of it was like just thrown in there.

One of the things I thought was funny, though, is you mentioned Carter who found Tut's tomb. I wonder if his naming or his name is part of the influence for Hawkman from DC Comics, because that's Carter Hall. Is it? Yeah. So I just when you said Carter, I was like, wait a minute, you're telling me the Egyptian guy from old DC Comics is Tut's tomb was found by a Carter. Yeah. Very well, probably. Yeah, I just thought it was interesting. That's all. Yeah. And the treasury, you know, held like a ton more treasures, you know, it's like it's just filled with artifacts and relics,

right? Like pieces of art, you know, you think there's yeah, you think there's those secrets in the tomb that nobody's discovered yet? I don't think in that tomb necessarily, maybe like the Great Pyramid, like there's like some relieving chambers and stuff, but there definitely is still some tombs out in the in the Valley of Kings, like, because they've done like, you know, imaging of the of the land and like they found like openings. Lidars. Yeah, Lidars. That's actually what I want to talk about in the future.

Throw that on the list. I have no idea what it is. Yeah, I'd love to hear about that. Because they, yeah, that's getting pretty big. It's like it's like radar, but you like it's for like ground penetration. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's what they're using in the Amazon. I wonder, I wonder if that has something to do with the the guy who did autotune, because that's where it came from was him looking to help them

find where they could drill for oil. So that would be sonar going into the ground to figure out where you find an oil reserve. Yeah, yeah. It could be something like that. Very cool. Yeah, maybe they could find some new fruit that would taste like a mango. Yeah. God damn it.

You're wild, man. Speaking of which, Frog. So, yeah, yeah, I'd like to run through this list of fun facts I found on mangoes, which happened to be my favorite fruit, to be honest, of ones that I've tried, you know, because I'm sure there's some out there that I have yet to try. I mean, what I seen on tic-tac the other day, it was a it was like a strut, it was like a cheesecake fruit type of deal.

And it was like really creamy on the inside. Oh, it looked delicious. I don't know what it was called. A cheesecake like textured fruit. That it's a yeah, something like that. It was really airy and fluffy on the inside. Yeah, I just know it was creamy on that one. That's what I meant when I said fluffy.

I get yeah, you're right. You're I mean, you're right, though, because it would be more like a paste or whatever. Yeah. Mm hmm. That is with that. Let's travel to Southeast Asia found by Hindu writings. There was references of the fruit around 4000 B.C. So, I mean, we've been harvesting this fruit for while not we actually them over there.

They've been harvesting this fruit for. Years, it's a sacred fruit of the monks. So Buddhist monks actually believed that Buddha used to meditate under mango trees and they hold a certain power, you know what I mean? There's a deep respect there from the monk world. And so it originated in India then. That's crazy. Yeah, what's yeah, what's most of India now is where that's kind of where they started.

It's kind of where it was first found. So, yeah, the first recorded mention of mangoes dates back to 5000 years ago in ancient Hindu literature and scriptures. The ancient Indians considered the fruit to be a symbol of love. OK. The cult, yeah, the cultivation of mangoes in India can be traced back to around 4000 B.C. And it is believed that the Buddhist monks brought mangoes to Malaysia and Eastern. Hold on a second.

The cultivation of mangoes at 4000 B.C. That's that's really early for for agriculture. Or I guess not really. 10,000 B.C. was agriculture. You know what you're doing is pulling it off a tree. Well, I mean, cultivation means like they're like, you know, they're cultivating it. That's pretty crazy, though. That's a very early crop.

You said the cultivation means cultivating it. Obviously, what? Yeah. Well, I mean, it means more like by cultivation, that means like, you know, they're taking that this one's the best. This is the good fruit. I'm going to plant this. You know, I'm going to play even at night and saying this is the good fruit. They could just be like, I'm going to be here to have it grow here.

You know, you're cultivating it. You're not just like, hey, look at this. This bush over here, this tree over here. They're going to eat some random fruit off of, you know, yeah. What are the pits of the not pits, but what are seeds for mangoes? Like, you know, they're in there. I've ate like diced mango in like fruit salad stuff. It's really pain in the ass too.

Kyle, you never caught up with me. No, I just said. Oh, man, I'm looking at mango seeds right now. Yes. So do you know? Go get yourself one from the store. Oh, yeah, you could totally. I feel like you could pit that on the ground, spitting it out and it just see.

No, it's not. Yeah, I would have. No, the seeds are inside the pit. Right. It's a big seed. Is that? Oh, yeah. OK, I see it now. No, I see it in this little diagram thing. Yeah, you got to take it.

Yes, but a mango, a fresh mango that's like perfectly ripe is way better than any, like, you know, mango and a mango salad or a fruit salad or whatever. Kyle, you definitely next time you go to the store, pick yourself up a mango. It's like almost like over in that world, if you gift someone a mango, it's a form of it's a symbol of love. So it's not like an aphrodisiac. It's more of like a loving family type thing. OK, yes.

Well, you said the symbol of love, you know, or so I do have a question, though, is is one of the things that may be adjacent to why there's a love symbol because the red and the green coloring on it, like how it kind of is two blended colors, or is it just the fact that it's a sweet fruit? I'm not 100 percent sure. So I mean, is it is it even like a love thing? Like, did I misinterpret the I know what you're saying?

Romantic or familial love. Is that what you're asking? Like, or is it just kind of like related to Buddha? Like, is it related to romance and romanticism? It says here that in some countries, mangoes are known as the love fruit, as they are brought to increase virility in men. The vitamin. OK, so it is. Yes. Yes. OK. All right.

So it is an aphrodisiac. God. The vitamin content can certainly help regulate sex hormones and boost sex drive. Interesting. OK. So that's so you know, I mean, yeah. Yep. OK. There you go. We're good on that. So let's bring up real quick how they made our way to us, because I mean, obviously, we over there, we weren't dealing with them yet.

Right. Mangoes made their way, especially because of climate, too. I don't think our climate was ready for those yet until we could actually bring them over here and figure out a way to. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, so they still probably grow in the south, right? Like Florida and stuff. Oh, yeah, exactly. So mangoes made their way to the United States around 1860 when they were introduced by a Florida man named Captain Hayden.

The Hayden mango is named after him in a popular variety in the US. Today, mangoes are grown in different parts of the world, including Asia, Africa, South America, Central America, the Caribbean and the United States, which are used in a variety of different ways. I mean, I've used them for all kinds of things. Yeah, man, I use it like I mean, I really only eat them fresh. Like, you know, I'll eat them like a fruit salad or whatever. But I don't usually wouldn't.

Didn't you used to make sauces with mangoes? You made a whole salsa for like a year of mango with it. Yeah, other than that. Yes, that's true. You can do a nice chutney. Yeah, mango have an arrow. That's true. I would do. Yeah, I would do a nice mango chutney. That would be essentially a fruit sauce. Yeah, that's good stuff.

I've made a lemon chutney or lemon marmalade. I don't think I've made a chutney before. I thought you did back in the day. Chutney is kind of where you cook it down. Yeah, you just you like cut it into or not cut it, but you cook it until it's down to like a paste sauce. It's like a chunky. Yeah, kind of like an apple butter, but like chunky with mangoes and spices.

Yeah, yeah, man, mangoes are so good. All right, so so real quick before we wrap up tonight, guys, I wanted to ask a question real quick. Brad, actually two million dollar questions. Yes, if you were to cast a film, who would you cast as King Tut and who would you cast as Howard Carter? Davison, you cast. OK, Pete Davison for a frog with King Tut. OK.

Pete Davison is King Tut. You frog or or the guy who played Freddie Mercury. What's his name? Oh my god. Yeah, Remy Remy. Yes, he actually did do King Tut. He didn't Mr. Robot, the guy that did Mr. Robot at the museum. He is. You're right. Well, then, yes, him for sure.

And then a Howard Carter. I would do Brendon Frazier just because you have to bring him back, even though he doesn't look much like him. I don't care. I want Brendon Frazier back in Egypt because he's the mummy guy. I could kind of see that, actually. I mean, he kind of, yeah, he could pull it off. I think he could pull it off either him or Tom.

Yeah, young Tom Selleck would be. Yes, Tom Selleck would be. I could see. Yeah. But still David Harbour. But no, I don't think he would be the best for it. Daniel Day Lewis back in the day, I think, could have done it. Me, he can play anybody, though. But Daniel Day Lewis.

Yeah, but he looks like this dude specifically. Yeah, because he just reminds me of the butcher from freaking from Gangs of New York. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He does a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what he looks like really. So I don't know if this picture is supposed to be Aaron Paul,

but a young one. I could now see her and Paul as young him. I don't think. Yeah, I could see that, I guess. Like it's really just got to throw the mustache on him, you know, really. And like, you could do a lot. You know what? And with that, like that would kind of be cool. Aaron, Aaron Paul is young, Howard Carter. And then like later in his life, it's Brian Cranston.

Yeah, it would work. I could see Brian Cranston here a little bit. There you go. That's me. I'm taking Brian Cranston and Slash Aaron Paul, what he's like in high school or something. Yeah, Young Tom Selleck. Yeah, Young Tom Selleck hands down. I just got Brian Frasier because he needs to be back in Egypt doing mommy stuff.

I think Brian and Frasier can do it. Dude, the whale, the whale. I feel like you're going to see Brian and Frasier more and more again. Oh, it was a beautiful movie. Yeah, yeah, he's coming back yet. So how would you like to take us out? And with that, everyone, we'd like to thank you for joining us here at the Brain Soda Podcast.

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