Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 2 - Burgundy’s March on Rome to Catch Them All

Episode Date: February 11, 2023

This week we'll be discussing the release of Pokemon Scarlet/Violet, ancient Rome, Ron Burgundy, and more! 

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second episode of the Brain Soda podcast. I, as always, am your faithful host, Kyle, and I am joined by my co-hosts and cohorts, Brad, and Frog. What's going on? How are we doing today, boys? Pretty good. We're going to jump right into it today, guys. We have a pretty interesting episode laid out for you guys.

We are going to talk about, more specifically, I am going to talk about Pokemon, Scarlet, and Violet. And Brad, you have a very interesting, probably one of the most important subjects within the realm of Western history. What are you talking about today, Brad? We're going to talk a little bit about Ancient Rome. So we're going to jump right in, guys. Closer to my birthday, like the middle of November, man, Scarlet and Violet came out.

And I want to say, starting off, this has been one of those games that I feel like is just so polarizing. And there's credence to both sides of the argument, right? It came out, I would say, and I would agree, at a state that probably wasn't the best for release from the biggest multimedia franchise, you know what I mean, today. The biggest. Yes. The biggest, right?

I was going to say one of the biggest. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Say it right. The biggest. Because if you got the biggest in the room, you're not going to not let it be known, right? But that being said, it wasn't in the state that it should be released from that company at that time. But that being said, like, I feel like if you compare what that is to the experience that

so many people have had, I know it's anecdotal, but I certainly have had with that game, man, it is kind of everything that the hype was. But I hate saying it, there's a good shot that for a lot of people, Scarlet and Violet as a generation or a game or whatever you want to call it, man, comes down to another one of those games like a Cyberpunk 2077, WWE 2K20 comes to mind, you know, just one of those games, man, that it comes out and it's riddled with issues, even if I haven't experienced a lot of them. But how do you guys feel about it?

What do you guys know about it? I know neither of you have played it. Yeah, I haven't played it too much. I've heard of some of the issues, you know, that's been going on, but I just need taxies and come around so I can get a switch and get on, to be honest. I need to figure it out for myself, see what's really going on. I'd say it's worth the pick up and try, for sure, man. You know, I've played the older ones, obviously, when we were growing up and all that, and

I played a couple of the newer gens. I think the newest one I played with, well, I guess not newer gens, but my wife was playing the one on the switch before this, I forgot which one it is. Sword and Shield, that would be Gen 8. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And actually, I'll be honest with you, Brad, I never played a single Pokemon game besides

like Stadium on N64, which is more like a sim, which is closer to the stuff I play now, and Pokemon Snap, again, N64. I love Snap. Yeah. Yeah, me too, bro. I haven't played the sequel. Stadium was a really good game, but I never played any Gen until I borrowed your Game Boy Color and played Yellow when we were like 16, 17, man, and my nephew got me into Sword

and Shield. I had Let's Go and Eevee because I was like, you know what, man, I got to play Gen 1. I never beat it. I guess like, okay, so like from what I've heard on this gen is that there were some glitches of them like falling through the floor, right? And then like a lot, like I guess some people are complaining about like the graphics and stuff, but I looked at the graphics and it is, it's more advanced than what I've seen, but Pokemon has always been basic, I guess in my eyes, you know?

You stay with, you stay with those styles and when you're Pokemon and you went 3D and everybody got mad about it, like I don't blame them for keeping it simple, baby. I really don't. I really, really don't. But when was the, when did they go 3D? Was that was? I want to say, I want to say that's, yeah, that's 3DS, so that's 6th gen or whatever. That's what it's not black and white because I'm pretty sure black and white is still on

the DS itself. It's 7th gen. It's X, Y. It's X and Y, I think. X and Y. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Dude, I think the last one I actually owned and played was gold, gold and silver. And I never had that experience, bro. That's the thing. We were the prime target age, 9 to 12, Pokemon's coming out. I got that new. That was like a. And then there was crystal. Well then that's, so they don't do an advanced versions most of the time now anyway.

Like they just started doing DLC. I'm just making the point. They would come out with a whole third game that didn't have the version differences. Like I'm, I'm a 33 year old man playing a Pokemon trading to get the exclusives from the other games still. Like they didn't have that in those games. Yeah. No, they did not.

Right. They were, they were both additions as one with even more features. Well, it's completely different, man. I remember when, you know, all I could do was trade with my brother and me, you know, like, yes, I had friends, but like a lot of them didn't play Pokemon back then. Whereas now, like if I'm not mistaken, you probably can just trade online. Right. I'm sure you can.

I haven't played. You could trade online for a long time. You've, you've been able to trade online for a long time. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So like that's how I like, but you know, I do think like it's cool that they're doing it, man.

Like, but I just, I can't get into like so many Pokemon. I'm, I'm with the hunt, you know, the original. I think it's a thousand and 51. Yeah. It's over a thousand now. Yeah. Yeah. A thousand and eight.

It's up there. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm sure there's plenty of people that know every single one of them, but the only reason I'm so into is because I'm a very avid Pokemon goal player. I mean, that's how I stay in the loop with any of it. That's true frog. I think that's a lot of came out hasn't it since 2016.

Yeah. Yeah. It is. That's a great game. It really is. But I love it. I don't know. I don't go out too much, you know, but yeah.

Like if you're, I don't even consider it a game. I consider it one of my apps. Like if I get a new phone, that's one of the apps I download automatically. Instantly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I had an app like that for a while.

I played. Yeah. It was just like every single day. But so I, cycling back though, it's, it's more than just people have reported dropping through the floor. And that's part of the reason why I kind of went into what I went into about how these glitches are different. My experience is the one I'm going off of more than anything else because online, if

you're looking for it, for me, or even just hearing people talk about the game, it's so many different things. We're talking about limbs stretching, like out to a rubbery, like it looks bad even like it doesn't. Yeah. It just gets ridiculously like elongated, um, problems with the mobility of things like I'm running around. So now there's a currents on the map of where there would be a grouping of Pokemon or one

particular wild Pokemon. You roll up on it, boom pops up out of nowhere. It seems like that's a problem because like there is an element of the game where I jump off that thing. I hop down into my crouch and then I come up, I select him with the, the L two. And then with our two, I whip the ball to start the fight. I get around there. If I'm coming up on something over leveled because I'm rolling around a lot, which this

is an open world game that you can wander into anything at any given point. What is it like I need that field of distance. I need to be able to see what's coming up before I get there. You either slow that Pokemon down or you, you know, you end up kind of changing the way I, I'm picking them up and being able to spot them from further out and things like that. The other thing I would say then is like crash detection and like the, the way that certain artifacts or whatever it's called are used to lay out like the ground floor that you

know what I mean? Like some of the, the outside view of the landscape and things like that don't have the prettiest of looks. I understand that since I've kind of regularly played Pokemon, the graphics have been a problem. Like I remember the first time I heard a big criticism of a Pokemon game I was playing. It was that the trees looked like they were from the PS two. I, I get that complaint. It's always been like that.

It's always been like that. You know, like it's always been like we cartoonish, exactly. It's always been cartoonish and stuff and like, but like, cause what I was seeing was like from the pictures I was seeing was like a landscape where it was just like rolling hills. It was, but there was nothing. It was just like lines for grass, you know, and yeah, I think the thing is, the thing is, is nobody ever cared about what a tree looks like in the background.

All you cared about was getting them all. That was the motto. Catch them all. Right. You don't care about the grass. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

No. I'm just playing the hours of it that I've played and running around just the introductory elements of the game. Even when I just had my big experience being with Sword and Shield, you have the wild area. So you see an onyx at the beginning of that game and going into the wild area, just out in the open, present like that. And then all the things around it are going to be like that as well. That makes that game really exciting.

Being the complete overworld feature makes this game revolutionary to a lot of people. And I say it works. And when you sit there and do it, it feels way different than anything I know that you've seen and maybe check out some videos some more and see if you'd be interested in because it's still a game I would suggest to people. And I think that when they bring home in, though, you're going to get another update to fix it. So holding out on the game is not going to be a problem, but I wouldn't want to miss

out on it either, man. Oh, absolutely. And with that, guys, do you have any last minute thoughts before we jump in and we hear about each room? I do want to ask a question. Go ahead. Because it's been eating at me. I did a little bit of research and I kind of make sense of why it is what it is.

But why do you guys think? Why do you guys think that Digimon didn't take off the way Pokemon did? Oh, man. Oh, that is an interesting question. So I was a fan of it and I'll say this right. I was too. OK, OK, I bought the trading card game and nobody else I knew did. Granted, I grew up in the small little rural community in Michigan.

We all did. But I think that's part of it, man. Is me getting into it was off the back end of getting into Pokemon. Again, because I lived in the rural community that I did, like I wasn't able to access the WB to watch the cartoon show like I would have normally had that experience had I lived in almost any other market. We'll call it right. But the cards were popping the whole time, the movies.

It was a whole phenomenon. And then to be successful as Digimon was is a credit to it because I think anything after that to a certain extent felt second fill. It felt like you were riding the wave. Yeah, it was only it really was the only like show that could kind of compete with Pokemon in that kind of realm, you know, and have it and have its similarities be as close as it was. Right. What might have changed?

Like if you if you go back and watch it, it's a little more, I guess, like anime. I guess I don't know what I don't really know. Shown in or whatever the fighting spirit kind of element of it. Yeah, it's more anime versus like cartoony. You know, like Pokemon like kind of transcends like the traditional anime. Characters have depths and arcs in that show. Pokemon like the game to the game, I think is really even though they don't make like their bread and butter on the game, that is what ties Pokemon to everything else.

There was a good Digimon. It was a game, but it wasn't Pokemon, you know. But really quick, I say the two the two things that are really important to note is that as far as an anime, that show, I feel is way better. All those characters, those five or six characters had depth and arcs. Sure. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying it was. No, no, I'm giving it credit.

I'm giving it credit. I'm saying Pokemon, the anime really, in my opinion, did not number one. You you could have put Pokemon on Nickelodeon and got away with it, whereas Digimon would have been a little less easier. They kind of try that now with Netflix. Netflix has the rights to it and nobody else does. But another thing is, too, is like you just said, the game. I feel like the game may be one of the biggest things because even just having

those cartridges and seeing another kid floating around with it with a gameboy, you're probably going to look up at the back of his no matter what. Right? Like at least you're going to try to cop and see what cartridge is rocking. You know what I mean? Like so I feel like that is really a thing that helps more than anything else on top of being an iconic part of the very late 90s, very early 2000s like Pokemon was. Yeah, it was a crazy thing is that like Rome, they wanted to catch of the countries

they want to catch them all that way. Yeah, that's how it works, too. I love it. Yeah, that's how it went. Wasn't it Alexander the Great rolling around with like a morning star ask like ball and chain and he would just he was he was Macedonian. Well, Greek it Macedonian, but we'll see. This is why we need to learn about stuff like this. Bradley wants to tell us all about it.

Yeah, so it all started historic legend has it started April 21st since 753 B.C. They have a date for it. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, but my mind's not going to go there. There's these two brothers named Romulus and Remus and the story of them like being orphans and being like raised by is there a date in the biblical story?

Is there a what? Did they give that story in the Bible a date or no? I don't know the exact date there. No, but it's not it's not a biblical story. It's like this. Oh, it's not. OK, no, it's I just remember it being mentioned in Double Dragon, the terrible movie based on the video game. OK, but yeah, there was this Romulus and Remus

and their brothers, they were raised by a wolf. And then they founded the city of Rome and Romulus. They were they both had their hills and then they started. There is their seven hills in Rome and they both had one or two different hills. And they ended up fighting in Romulus one. So that's Rom Romulus Rome. That's where you get the name Rome from, right? It's not Reem.

Yeah, it's not. Yeah, exactly. Right. So after that, you know, there was some there was the rape of the the Sabine women's is what they call it. And that that was an event where the there was just a bunch of guys. It was essentially a town founded with just a bunch of men. And so they all went over to this area and took these these Sabine women.

So, yeah, they steal these women and then they go they they pretty much make them their wives. And that's how the city of Rome was founded. Really quick, aggressive, but a little bit. So yeah, they have a king, you know, like most ancient places back in the day. And after a while, the people get fed up with them and they overthrow the king. And from there, the founders of Rome became the Senate. You know, the original founders of Rome became

the Senate, they became the the patricians, they call them. Is it like all the generals who fought against that king? Like everybody who just killed the king's like, essentially, you know, founders that, you know, because like this is years later, you know, it's all the founders of the city became rich, obviously, over time and became a patrician. So all the other people, the non rich people, I guess, you know, were the plebeians and it kind of stayed that way for a while, where there's a Senate kind of just controlled everything until eventually the plebeians were like,

hey, we want some representation too. So after some some fighting and everything, the Senate let them have the Tribune of the Plebs, which that was kind of like it was a set of people that was elected by the plebeians that kind of veto anything the Senate did, you know, so they kind of had like control over most things, you know, but that like it still ended up being kind of corrupted, though. Like it wasn't like it.

It's still like it ended up being an oligarchy, essentially, you know, there's the rich ruled everything kind of like, you know, what's going on today? Right. Right. So like over time, you know, I ended up being like this. This went on for like, you know, five, six hundred years until like the the 100s, BC, the second century, BC, were these two brothers, the Graghine brothers, they kind of like wanted to reform

and let the plebeians have more more land and everything and give out a bunch of, you know, land that was one and wars and stuff like that. So the Senate obviously didn't like that. So yeah, oh, you're going to dole about our. Yeah, yeah. So they murdered up like one and then the other as you do. So I'm just, I'm like kind of, I'm kind of going, I'm going fast through this because I wanted to get to, you know,

the guy that everybody knows is Julius Caesar, right? Obviously. Is that right now, though? Is this the rise of Caesar now? No, that's this is about like almost a hundred years before him. OK, so to paint the picture, Rome has been founded. It is become a Senate after the king has been pushed out, right? And now these Graghine brothers have been killed for doling out parts of the country.

They really had to break the dole out, right? Well, it was counter territory, though, right? Yeah. But so yes and no. They wanted to, you know, they wanted to like distribute it to like or more equally distributed to the plebeians. Yeah, like it was like right kind of like the poor citizenship. You mean giving back to the poor citizenship?

They got murdered for that? That's wild. It was great. Like that's like American, Haitians. Like the Haitians kind of like, you know, in America's past and almost like there was slaves, huge plantations. The rich people own them and stuff like that. But a huge plane.

But this is the dawn of Western civilization. Correct. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes. There was slavery, you know, but it was still learning slavery. It was more like slavery, like from being conquered. Slavery life. It was yeah. Like that's the one thing like Rome. Like, yes, it is amazing.

But you got to remember there were slaves there. Like they were heavy on the slaves. So then yeah. So eventually, you know, there was this guy that became kind of like big. I kind of didn't like explain the whole entire political structure of Rome. But like there was a there was a person called the council that served for one year and could serve once every 10 years. So essentially, you know, like like a president, but not like, you know,

they after after the year, they wanted to serve like an effective president. Yeah, OK, a little bit. You have one year you have more power within this republic or whatever, than anywhere. Yeah, per se, and you know, right. But OK. Yeah. So like for this, like this guys,

Marius wanted to serve more than anybody else. And like, you know, he got to serve in the end, like seven times. But there was like there was a reason why. Like you get appointed for certain reasons. He fought in a few wars and everything. And then eventually like there was a guy, I'm like kind of I'm skipping over a lot of a lot of things here. But I mean, I just I want to give you guys an overview of Rome.

So we get, you know, so after, you know, Marius ends up getting in a war, civil war with this guy named Sola. And Sola happens to be the first guy to march a Roman army onto the city of Rome and take it over and he gets appointed dictator for life. And that's like dictator was a little bit different than like what it is now. Like what we think of as dictator nowadays. But they were still like, you know, the guy in charge. And so yeah, he ended up like he was dying.

He thought he set the Senate right because the Senate was all corrupt, right? But ended up not being set right. And enter this guy named Julius Caesar, where he wants to be, you know, the big guy around. And he becomes he only works his way up through the ladder and becomes counsel. Was he born like within the lap, not lap of luxury, but like was he of a high house or whatever it would be called in its day? So his clan, the the Julia,

they were like they were an original aristocratic clan. You know, they were they're around. But like they used to be big. But at that time he was like not like they like recently had recently they were not. He had to work, right? Yeah. Yeah, he was like there's there's stories like there's a story of him where, you know, when he was younger, he was going over to Greece and he got

kidnapped by some some pirates and they they tried to ransom him. He told the pirates is like, you're only a ransom for that. You need to ransom me for more than that. So they're like, all right, and they did. And he's like, all right. Well, I'm just to let you guys know when I when I come back, I'm going to kill you all, but what you set me free, I'm going to come back and kill you all. And so they got the ransom money and they set him free.

And then he went back there and he killed them all. But man, eight telegraph that. Yes. But he did kill him quickly because they were nice to him. So, you know, he didn't like torture or anything. After he gets to be counsel, he's appointed to something called Pro Council, which is kind of like a general or a governor, not a governor, but they do. He is. Yeah. I think he becomes governor of a few areas like north of Italy,

Dahl, which is like kind of modern day France and some places in like the Balkans, too. But he kind of doesn't do anything in that area while he's governing it. But yeah, he goes up and he's like, oh, man, the German, the German tribes are trying to take over Gal and take over our area. So I better go and take over the entirety of France then over 10 years. So, you know, he not simply, though, right? No, not simply.

You know, there was there was accounts where a town rebelled against him and all the people that rebelled against him, he cut off their hands. There was, you know, like he just brutally like just massacred like hundreds of thousands of people. Like he wrote about it. There's this he actually like it's surviving. There's an account like he wrote, apparently, that of like his his journey there. And like all the things he did, he just slaughtered people like crazy.

And that's like kind of how unfortunately they took over France was by just killing people until they surrendered one. But yeah, there was there was like one of my culminated in this big battle where he is besieging this town and then there's another army, you know, more Gal people, Gal people coming and he put two walls up and like made a double siege and just like and was able to defeat them through that. It was insane. That's crazy. That is one of the craziest generals like we can go into like I'm trying to keep

it short, but we can go in so much detail of how just amazing Caesar was as a general. I mean, he even went up to Great Britain, but didn't do much up there. He kind of just landed there. Oh, man, OK, it's not like the Romans were afraid that it was like, you know, a evil land or something. You're going to fall off the world or something. They're afraid to go in the water up there, but they did. Are they here's an interesting question.

What language were they speaking? Like what how was their form of communication? How did they how did they talk with other countries? And how did they make demands and like because let's say I'm going to go over and take this country over. But how do you do that without them knowing what the hell you're saying? You know what I mean? Yeah, no, like, well, they were speaking Latin.

But like traders, man, like there's people that speak like, you know, us being an American, we speak English and like that's it. You know, most people just always speak English. But if you go up to Europe, like most people are like filing well, trialing well, you know, like quad, whatever. Like so like it's they just they're around, you know, they weren't isolated. There was so much trading going on and all that. Like even though there wasn't like people like even though they're enemies,

there were still traders like going back and forth. So like and they weren't even enemies like necessarily. Like, yes, there was like Persia kind of was like always like that. Or, you know, the Parthians and stuff, I guess. No, who's the Parthians? The Parthians are like, well, it's like the Middle Eastern, you know, empire at that time. He won, you know, conquer all that stuff.

What's great bread and all that stuff came back and but was coming back. And he was coming back. He wanted to run for counsel. It's been almost 10 years. He needed that 10 years, you know, oh, yeah, you know, some change. And he was coming back and they wanted them. First of all, they were arguing about like, whether it was like from the time he left or from like that.

They gave him an extension because it was supposed to only be five years. Sorry. But they gave him an extension. And they're like, well, maybe or not, but are to be pro, you know, pro counsel. So he was, you know, in war and all that. Right. At this point, yes. Like there's things like some people want to arrest him. Some people don't like, you know, and he wants to go and be counsel. The problem is that to be counsel, you have to be inside of Rome and to be inside

of Rome, you have to lay down your army. Well, so really quick. Yeah. Right. You can't lay down your army. And I asked because it sounds like these were all more military positions, but they had an element in the government. Is that right or wrong? No. OK. I mean, yes and no.

Like it wasn't yes. They were often generals. They didn't have to be like, OK, there's these these guys that he was working with that got him, you know, into power, essentially. And that is the triumvirate. Yes. Crassus was this rich guy that like had fun in him a lot and ended up going over to the Parthians and trying to go to war with them and then getting molten gold poured down his throat, apparently, kind of like a game of thrones.

Yeah. For what? Yeah. Because he was rich and like he got. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. So you're rich. Well, here's some gold. Like, you know, yeah, here's some gold that you love so much. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. Well, as quick fact about Crassus,

he was like the first like he had the first firefighter brigade. And I think in recorded history. I was going to say history. Yeah. But he would like go up to the places. It was private, obviously. You go up and be like, you want to pay? Oh, he would. Yeah.

You want to pay? We're not going to do nothing until you start paying, you know? And that's all right. Yeah. And then or like there's some of them thought that he might have started fires, you know, so Crassus Caesar and then Pompey. So Pompey was this general that like, you know, went out and did a bunch of crazy stuff over at Greece and stuff. And like, you know, like a big senator and everything.

And he was like he married Caesar's daughter. And like they were actually in love, which was unusual at the time for a marriage like for them to be in love. But she died in childbirth and that kind of like screwed things up. And like they kind of had a falling out after that. And they like so he started like being his enemy. So Caesar was like, all right, whatever, I'm going to march on Rome. And Pompey was like, well, all right, well, I'm going to, you know,

I'm going to defend Rome, but ended up not there. You know, kind of chickening out and running off to Greece. And so Caesar ended up coming into Rome with his soldiers and everything. And kind of like Sulla, you know, they made him dictator and all that. The senators who stayed kind of gave him all the power and everything. And he raided the treasury and yeah, you know, the dictator, the dictator for I don't think he was appointed at that time, dictator for life, but essentially, yeah.

Right. And so then he goes off to Greece and goes in as a battle with like Pompey and the other the other senators that were with him and all that and ends up beating Pompey. And Pompey runs off to Egypt to hopefully like Egypt was not theirs. Technically, they were like kind of like a client kingdom. You know, like there are their friends with them. But so they get there.

Yeah. So he gets there and he's like going to try to like hide out there. But no, they ended up like killing him and chopped off his head. Like everybody gets on the shore. Caesar follows, follows Pompey there. You know, like trying to like chase him down and gets there. And he's all mad because they kill them. You know, like that was that you shouldn't you.

Egyptians shouldn't kill a Roman, you know, a great Roman senator like that. Or pro council, whatever. Yeah, they had a problem with that. They did. So he was really sad. You know, apparently they cried. I'm like, oh, you killed Pompey and my friend, Pompey. So this is when like, you know, he means he means Cleopatra and all that.

And like, you know, they have, they have a. Yeah, like we'll talk about the next episode. But he's like he he ends up, you know, having a affair with her and having a kid and all that. We'll go over that a little bit more next episode. But in all that stuff, he like, he ends up touring Egypt for like, you know, a year or something like that and finally comes back and has mops up some stuff in Spain and finally gets back to Rome and chills out and makes some good reforms. Honestly, he does make some good reforms.

But, you know, the Senate just there's some senators that still like him. And one day they kind of coaxed him in the Crassus, which was one of his best friends and Brutus, which was his like his mistresses son, you know, possibly his son. But maybe like these two people like to Brute, you know, like, yeah, they coax him into this in a pompous theater. Actually, it wasn't the Senate House because that burned down from riots. And they stabbed him.

They stabbed him like 60 times or something like that. Just like just brutally murdered him, you know, just and you can still go to that spot today, you can literally go to the spot like the JFK spot. Yeah, essentially. And that's crazy. So like, you know, that's Caesar and I like, I'll tell you guys what I'll continue on more like, I kind of want to just wrap it up because like, I mean, I just want to get again, I wanted to give you guys a good idea of what Rome is like.

And, you know, we're going to go. I'm just going to tell you about the Julio-Caudian dynasty and there. It was really cool to tell you guys about that today. It was actually great hearing about it because I got to tell you, man, I find it so interesting. I get like sucked into it. I don't know about you, Frog, but I definitely. Oh, yeah, I love it.

I mean, right. You know, about the way the older people think, just to me, is just mesmerizing. Because because we think a certain way today and we you don't really capitalize on how it started. Any of these thought processes that we have today, any of the wording, any anything. Just crazy. Like it's just the things they went through, like just. Yeah, what they without technology either.

Yeah. Yeah. And like what what they built, what is has become of what, you know, Rome. Is this considered the Bronze Age? The Iron Age. The Bronze Age is like Alexander the Great. Well, we'll talk about that in future episodes. I don't think Ron Burgundy gets enough credit as a character. Because he's a podcast now.

Did you know that? No, listen. What? Yeah. Ron Burgundy as like you can see, watch a lot of movies be like, OK, that's Brad, that's Brad Pitt, that's George Clooney, that's Chris Farley, whatever. Ron Burgundy is Ron Burgundy. That's not Will Ferrell. You know what I mean? It's a whole. It is. Oh, my.

Are you trying to say like he channels something like like the way that Jim Currie was trying to say he telepathically was reached by Andy Kaufman to do Man on the Moon? Very similar, very similar. Exactly like that. I love like he's channeled through will Will Ferrell is just a host. Just all of a sudden there's water and dolphins come out of it like he says happens in the beginning of that movie.

It's like, I thought I have to telepathically connect with Andy and then 15 dolphins surface and I'm like, Jesus Christ, man. All right. Yeah, that happened. Yeah. But yeah, that's all I was going to go into is just appreciating how well they did Ron Burgundy that he's he's so separated from Will Ferrell that he's his own entity. He really is like, yeah, he like he I think of Ron Burgundy as a completely different person than. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. Then like, yeah, the traditional Will Ferrell. Yeah. But all right, guys, it was great talking to you. You know, I can't wait to do, you know, another one episode, talk more about Rome with you all. Kyle, why don't you take us out? Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to thank you as always for joining us here on the Brain Soda podcast for Brad, for Frog. I'm Kyle and we hope you have a great day.

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