Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 25 - Brainsoda Goes to the Movies!

Episode Date: July 22, 2023

On this week's episode we celebrate our 25th episode by discussing some of our favorite movies! Kyle gives detail on some of his most watched Sci-Fi movies and Brad tells about some of his favorite historic movies!

Welcome everyone to the Brain Soda Podcast. I, as always, am your host, Kyle, joined by my co-host and cohort, Brad. How's it going? Today, as a special for episode 25, we are going to be discussing our picks for science and history on the big screen. We decided for our 25th episode we would do something special. So I chose five science fiction films and Brad stuck with five films that would have history involved in some context or form. So it is a loose set of rules for my list just to kind of preferences. I did no Star Trek or Star Wars, no superhero films.

I just kind of tried to avoid the alien invasion stuff. And I wanted to stick with science as a premise for a film. These aren't my top five science fiction films or anything like that, but they are definitely films I suggest you view. I think they're films of note, and I think they have a good scientific premise or basis for what they are as a film. Brad, is there anything you kind of chose for your list specifically? I did find that kind of I've watched multiple times, which to me feels like it's more of my favorite movies, you know, if I see it more than once,

I'd say like them. Because I have a really hard time trying to choose like my favorite of this, favorite of that. I did steer away from like war movies. I guess there is one technically, but it's not what you would think of as a traditional war movie, you know, like a World War II one or something like that. But yeah, no, it's gonna be pretty cool think of as a traditional war movie, you know, like a World War II one or something like that. But yeah, no, it's gonna be pretty cool. I'm excited to hear your five because we have it in total each other, would either of our five are. So yeah, why don't you get into your scalp? Yeah, and to be fair, I've watched my films multiple times as well, but I have such a hard time trying to say what favorite movie you're not. I'm not willing to go out on the limb and say these are my top five sci-fi films, but I think they'd be close. I think they'd be close. So let's start.

Yeah, no, like it's more of a, like five movies that I think are good for you to watch, you know. Yeah, my suggested list. Yeah. Okay, so we're gonna start with stars Clive Owen, Julianne Moore, directed by Alfonso Kiran, Children of Men. Yes. Children of Men I chose because while it is like a dystopian future, while it is like a dystopian future, it is the least reaching to make a film a dystopian future. The simple premise for like the whole background of the film and the crux of the plot is we ain't making no more babies. Yep, everybody's a fertile. And the way that this causes refugees crisis and violent, like, uprisings and, and riotous behavior and things like that. And like, the state of the world in that film,

and things like that, like, it is one of those things where it, it doesn't ever need some big red herring of technology to kind of waggle in your face and go, you know, it's never about reaching beyond limits of that one premise. And for me, that's what makes it work so good. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. Like that could take place at literally any time. You know, you don't need any technology for that. It's just, it's a thing that happened. You know, like, man, I do, I really like that because it's like a, it's an apocalypse type scenario because humanity's going away, right? It's an apocalypse.

So, but it's a weird one. It's a weird takeout. Cause it's just like a slow bird. Now, cinematically, one of the things I think works so good for this film, and I don't know if you and I have ever discussed this or off mic is the long shots. There's a scene where these guys are like about to be ambushed. They come upon this thing in the road and

the camera just sticks in that vehicle while all of this madness is happening all around it and it's just kind of slowly turning to see the participants throughout the film you've already been following as these actions happen in those long shots where you're sticking with your subject matter throughout all of this uproar Just makes it permeate so much and feel realer than a lot of other things would normally no matter how it shot And I never saw that yeah, you're right because yeah like they did his long shots and like that does make a big difference. Like yeah. Yeah. Like just by the way, like the feel of the movie. Like is exactly a roast. Almost like yeah. Yeah. Now as far as was this a success, it had a budget of $76 million.

But at the box office, it only made 70 and a half million really. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't understand, like okay, so we, I just actually watched this movie recently with, with my wife, and she didn't like it, and I was like, okay, yeah, she's like, she didn't like the way, like just the movie in general, she wasn't a big fan of it, yeah, unfortunately. It is, I think, a little dark. It is. unfortunately it is I think a little dark it is and

it's a different movie but it is yeah I don't know I think if you're a fan of sci-fi movies or like those type of movies you know like survival like walking dead almost type movies action through a kind of thing I think that's really good movie you know maybe it just I just didn't sit right with her that that day or, but I highly recommend it. Like, it's actually one of my favorite sci-fi movies, honestly. Yeah. The second film of mine that's released in 2006, because I made it a point where from 1980 to 2019, I technically all covered in this.

There's one from each decade, right? Okay, and two two from the early odds. Okay, but but my second one from the early odds Idiocracy Mike judge creator of even some butthead Luke Wilson the starring role is Flash forward into time role is flash forward into time, into a, an America in which society has become so stupid, yet somehow functioning that like he is now the smartest man on earth. Terry Cruz is the president and they're giving Gatorade to the plants because it's got electrolytes. Yeah, it's got electrolytes and to be honest man like it this is probably

the film I've watched the least. Really? I've seen it. I've seen it a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah. A lot of the five that I have this is probably the one I've seen the least. Is that sci-fi though? Because it started to feel like a documentary suit, like, you know. I consider it science fiction, because he's time displaced, Luke Wilson. Yes. And also the premise is that society has essentially, well, Mr. Science, We're gonna we're gonna ask you has society and idiocracy

Devolved From its advance of technology and et cetera or has has Society advanced enough that it's evolved past common sense. Okay, so something is devolving. You always evolve, but that doesn't necessarily mean like, I mean, you don't ever, I don't know, you don't really get a negative evolutionary trait,

but you can't get like neutral ones almost sometimes. But I guess that's different, kind of a different subject, but I don that's different, like kind of a different subject, but I don't know man, like, in the accuracy, it doesn't make sense to me. As much as I love that movie, and like, it's great to be like, you know, is that like, what's happening to us now?

Like, because like, they have like lots of like electronics and things like that, all sorts of like machinery and like, advanced stuff and things like that. Whatever he's really, really, really stupid. So who's making all that stuff? Even the politicians and stuff are stupid. So from up to down, they're stupid.

It doesn't make sense to me, because there would have to be to me that couldn't happen. All that stuff takes a lot of, even if, it's true. that couldn't happen. All that stuff takes a lot of, even in general, like know how, not just like, I don't know. I guess we're really like, delving into this movie. But people do like say,

they compare it to modern society a lot, you know? That's what I was gonna say, it become a cult classic. It's almost like, okay, because I can see like two different like classes almost, like the dumb class and the smart class. But that would never really happen. Like, I don't know, because there's dumb and smart people everywhere in all the stratas of societies. How did it do box office wise? So, this is the one that really, it didn't surprise me because I always knew this but this film flopped Oh, I'm extremely hard right

Well, I but I don't think any of these sales figures that I'm giving for my five are based off of the cult Satisfied has yeah, and we'll get into that with the next film as well The film while it has gathered like a cult following, really, really did a nose dive when it comes from our budget of $2.4 million. And it grossed at the box office less than a half million dollars, $495,000. Really?

Is the figure that I got, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. It is Yeah, last sucks. I know it's got a cult like cult probably now I was gonna say by now that movie is probably made it up and and how he would when it comes to distribution rights It can always make up the difference right, you know wait wait no charge tax time. So it's excellent Yeah

Blade Runner blade runner. Yeah. Blade Runner. Blade Runner. Yeah. I chose Blade Runner because it is the advent of Cyberpunk. It is probably one of the most important films visually as far as using minis and models, but you know, pre-CGI special effects and things like that. That's how modeled. It's all modeled.

Like that's all modeled. Yeah, like the Tyrell building is a model. It's a scale model. It's like even like the cars and stuff. Yep. Really? That's interesting. I thought that was like early CGI.

There's still use in models by the time total recall. Oh yeah. That's still practical. That's better now. But yeah, go ahead. Yeah. So anyway, so I will say this, like, I watch the review from Red Letter Media just to kind of touch base

with Blade Runner in case there was anything that I forgot and the thing that I always forget is that the original theatrical release has a narrative through line with Decker, played by Harrison Ford, doing a voiceover. A journal kind of discussing the events of the film, his life and things like that, and like, it is so poorly performed because Harrison Ford, apparently apparently from reports like didn't even want it and to be fair the film in Every other cut afterwards

Looses it what they do with those subsequent cuts because our director here Ridley Scott took a snippet from his film legend and dropped it in and now Deckard dreams of unicorn and Gaff knows this at the end and it is a implication to the ambiguous ending that perhaps Deckert is a Replicant as well. Maybe this guy's an Android. And for a lot of people that narrative, once you try to explore it out in your mind, that narrative once you try to explore it out in your mind can ruin some of the underpinnings of the film. Really? Yeah, but like I will say this like I always just forget the f***ing unicorn man. Well that's a guy.

It's like I do. Yeah you can. It is literally like three seconds of film in the... There's a unicorn in the movie. And like... And... Yeah it's literally just like decades sitting there sleeping or whatever I'll drunk and then you see like a unicorn. And like, and, yeah, it's literally just like Decker sitting there sleeping or whatever,

I'll drunk and then you see like this year or more. That's funny. I never saw the original one. I need to go back and watch it. Cause yeah, and, uh, yeah, watch it. It is, it is, like all of Harrison Ford's early stuff. I wanna watch it. Yeah.

I will say though, it is, I feel one of the very important films when we talk about what is humanity really. Deckard is a character someone who is made of living in a very morose one by killing replicants, Android's essentially, right? And when you get to the end and Rutger Hauer saves him and then comes up and gives this speech about all the beautiful things he's seen and when he dies they will be gone like tears in the rain, right? The very famous end scene. The level of humanity that that character is displayed rivals any and all that we've seen from Deckard throughout the film and is a very

important narrative to like what humanity is not as a distinction of class biologically but humanity as like a personage of actions and ethics and mercy. You know, yeah, so I found that to be a very important film. You know what I mean? and ethics and mercy, you know. Yeah. So I found that to be a very important film. You know what I mean? A very important message in multiple films.

Sure, yeah, that's what, yeah. It had a, as well, to make you like, get that like, or thought, you know what I mean? Yeah, makes you think, it makes you feel. So Ridley Scott directed this film like we said before, it had a budget of $30 million and this is one of the caveats that I was talking about earlier with idiocracy. It's box office was purported from one I found

in my research to $41.6 million. I believe, but I couldn't find, I believe that's from a rerelease in theaters at one point. Oh, okay, like I came out later. Yeah. Yeah, like maybe even the final cutter, whenever when they got rid of the voice over. Oh, always saying with Blade Runner.

I thought you were talking about 80 accuracy. No, no, 80 accuracy is half million dollars. That was all I was able to find about that. But when I saw 4.1 or yeah, 41.6 million dollars, I was like, that's not right. Blade Runner didn't make it money. Well, me did. Starship Troopers.

Starship Troopers, man. I like that one. I haven't seen this as I was a little kid though. Like, well, not little, but young. Now, here's an important point to make about Starship Troopers. So, anyway, Starship Troopers also based on a book I do believe, but it really has nothing to do with that novel. But people believed it was a pro-fascist film. And the reality of it is that in literally the starkest of ways, this thing is a satire of a society that is fascist,

that is nothing but like imperialism, right? And like, but I don't understand how people didn't get this. Wasn't it just like I just remember being like you shoot an alien bug or something? That I, on its core level, that is really all that you can take away from that film in a lot of ways. But it's totally not though. When we were young watching this film, I got to rewatch it. Okay.

So you're saying there's some fascist elements to it? Dude, at one point Neopatricarest walks into a room and he is in literal SS Garb. He looks like a real Nazi, yeah. And at the end of the film, at the end of the film, Neopatric curse can read minds in this movie, right? At one point, the giant brain hive alien is like captured and he comes up and he reads its mind

and he goes, it's afraid. It's afraid and everybody's like cheering, shooting off their guns and things like that Like that that is the point you point about this film in the very beginning with Johnny Rico like falling asleep in the class or whatever the guy is the The teacher in this films initial Lecture is about how vines solves all conflicts Okay, like it is it is a distinct political statement

with this cheesy actor, 90210, love plot, and like, that's a wow. Paul Virhoven, the guy who made RoboCop, the guy who made Total Recall, is taking that RoboCop hyper violent film. It is, it's real like, that's what I remember about this film. It's just like a lot what I remember about this film. It's just like a lot of like, like if you want us to watch a shoot them up,

sci-fi shoot them up on the alien, like that's the way I don't, I didn't take any like, but again, I watched it when I was younger. Right. So I didn't take any like, you know, political message from it, but I remember, you know, it was just a cool shoot them up alien movie. Yeah. But I'm telling you now, if you, if you take the time and rewatch this and you're not a complete dullard, you will start to notice that.

I want to watch it just for that. I want to watch fascist Neopatric Harris. The propaganda reels that they throw up across this film, I feel like are exactly the point where the film is like not actually breaching the fourth wall but coming really close to it and leaning into your ear and just going this is you know yeah and that's the way it's supposed to be it's not showing its hand but it's flipping the card around fast enough you can't read the face. You know what I mean? Like, definitely. So, $100 to $110 million was the projected

budget, and $121 million was its box office pull. And like you had said though, the merchandising for this film was kind of sick because for everything that we're talking about with it This did indeed have children's toys and things like that associated with it. Yeah, it's crazy Well, I mean like I made a money back Yeah, I did it was a success and it had subsequent sequels that were straight to DVD too if anybody don't watch them that were straight to DVD too if anybody don't watch them. So now the final one on my list and I've watched this maybe once before but literally we watched it to do this list because I knew how important it was. Christopher Nolan. Okay, with a budget of $165 million and the film made

$773.8 million and I'm gonna say this right now because we've already covered that film on another episode This is the modern day 2001 2014's interstellar Nice Christopher Nolan hits so many different things in this film It's dystopian future for earth is not something that is crazy off the wall reaching its blight

Most of the air that we breathe consists of nitrogen, predominantly, right? Yep. Blight eats nitrogen. Crops across the country are failing. A former pilot and engineer ends up becoming the head pilot for this seeking of a new planet for humanity and there's so many different events and things that like it really could be a full 30 minutes in and of itself and maybe it will be one day but I believe this is the modern day 2001 this is the film that hits on so many

different touchstones for science. You'll see science watching it. You will see to watch it more than once. It's like it's one of those movies where yeah Which my last movie is unfortunately gonna be about or like that too, but it's just one. It's a really good movie It is yeah, yeah, it is such a good film and I'm I'm so glad I was able to share this list of films with you guys Please check them out. Let us know what you think about them. But with that, Brad, why don't you tell us about some historical films? You know, I picked a few that really, honestly, there's only like two, I would say, or three, three that are like really historical ones.

Like accuracy? The first one is not, I mean, it's accurate in the sense that it's a historical thing that happened, but it's not really like that historically accurate, and that is 300. 300, man, that's one of my favorite movies. I've watched that so many times. Based on the Frank Miller Lin-Varley, yes it is. But yeah, no, I was directed by Zach Snyder and it stars Gerard Butler as like the main character Leonidas and Lena Haiti, who was a Cersei in Game

of Thrones. She's the Leonidas's queen, so I mean, she doesn't play like a big role, but I mean, actually kind of like a decent, she's a big... I forgot her being in that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty like it actually it made it pretty good in the box office. It had a 65 million dollar budget and came out with a 456 million. So like it definitely you know was hit. The accuracy though like the okay so the plot okay it recalents the story of the Battle of Thermopoly, which was back in ancient Greece around 480 BC, the Persians attacked, and the Greeks, they kind of, they weren't of a country at the time.

There are a bunch of like city states, right? There were a bunch of like smaller municipalities. Yeah, exactly. It's thinking like each city is a country essentially or each country, right? Or state even whatever. But so the city states like you were saying. There's a lot of states. You know, so like they were like the main city and then like there was you know like they controlled the area around them. So like almost like state modern states, right? But one of them was the Spartans. And I'm sure everybody you know that has heard of the Spartans or most people have sure everybody has heard of the Spartans or most people have, but they were like known as like kind of like

a militaristic state. They were, I mean, modern, even as a society, right? Yeah, they were, they were, but like, I mean, not like as extreme as what people like kind of make them out to be. But yeah, but anyways, so they went and defended that area. And in the movie, there was 300 of them.

And they, you know, there was just those 300 that stayed behind to face like thousands and thousands of Persians and all that. And it's like, it's this awesome movie. And like the way they did like the graphics of it, it's like almost like, I don't know, it's just different like the style. It's very stylistic, you know?

Like they're like a century to the muscles and everything, it made it like dark with lots of reds and blood and gourd, stuff like that. It's really, it's really cool. Like I just, I like the way they did that. And like it was kind of mimicked, I think, with other movies going forward from there. Well, number one, it inspired a whole parody film,

which I think at some point we're going to get into because by the time parody films, as it was known in pop culture, meets the Spartans, it's at the end of the downward spiral. But, yeah, that's true. But beyond that, it was a cultural touchstone for a period of time, absolutely. Yeah, and like, this is, I don't think I mentioned, it was released March and I 2007. So like yeah, it was kind of towards the end of those. It's like, you know, yeah, the scary movie

and all that was early 2000s. But yeah, so like it was a great movie, highly recommend it. But the second movie, I mean, at least our age group, you know, us millennials, I'm sure like pretty much every millennial has seen this movie, but that is Titanic. Released in 1997, Starros, Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio, as Jack, and Kate Winslet as Rose, right?

They all says Billy Zane and Kathy Vates, you know, there's a couple other big ones. It was directed, written, and produced, all, like by James Cameron. And like, so like James Cameron. Essentially, I don't know if this is true, but like, he pretty much like made the movies so he can like, go see the Titanic.

I like, you know. That is what I heard, is that like for him, you know, and didn't get a whole lot of a bunch of other wealthy people and go down to man-made sub. Yeah. Ran by a Logitech controller. He, like, a professional had professionals. Take him down and view.

I mean, I wonder why you're saying something like that, Kyle. It must be like something that has happened recently, but, yes. Yeah. I mean, you know, hey, look know hey look if I have 270,000 dollars or whatever it was, I don't think I would go into a Logitech controller ran sub. Yes, yes. Exactly. Like if you look at James Cameron sub versus that thing but yeah like no I mean it was funny because like I wanted to do Titanic,

right, when you said history things because Titanic is like one of my favorite movies, but just because, like, it's just crazy, like, he put so much into that movie, you could really tell, like, that one is it historically accurate in the sense of like, the way it looks and all that. So this movie, this one made a, you know, it was, it was a big movie, but it did have a, and a $200 million budget, but it also made $2.26 billion. Right. It's actually, I think it's one of the highest grossing films ever. It is.

It's not, yeah, it's like one in the top five. It won 11 Oscars. Like, it's like, like I said, most people have seen this movie. If you have not seen Titanic, watch it. You're still very, very much Titanic, yeah. It's seriously, like, it's watch it. Like watch it. You're yourself very very lost Titanic, yeah. It's seriously, like it's a masterpiece. It really is. And like, yeah.

Like he used actual footage. Him going down in that sub, he used like he used footage from like the footage you see. In the opening credits, right? Yeah, yeah. In the opening credits and at the end, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah. And it's about, you know, it's about a poor guy named Jack.

And he gets, he wins a ticket on there and then falls in love with Rose and it's a love story, you know, just that dang. I don't want to spoil it. I'm not even gonna say about the about the wood at the end, the door, the door. I'm just saying the door is big enough. That's all I will say. It's true. It's true. But okay, let's go on to the third movie. And this one, this one's not very historically accurate a little bit, but not really, but it's gangsta New York. Yes. And this one was released December 20th, 2002. It was directed by Martin Scorsese and written by J. Cox, Steve Zeylon, and Kenneth Lonergan. But it has Daniel Day Lewis in it as Bill the Butcher, and Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio again. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, he's a two of my movies, but he's Amsterdam, Valon, and also has Cameradie as in it,

as Jenny Ernie and his like, Love and Dresser. That's right. Yep. Yep. And it's based on a book for a 1927 book called The Gays of New York by Herbert Aspery. And I think I'm going to have to look that up because that seems interesting. You know, yeah. So I will say this, I feel like this is one of those dividing line films because like

the political machine of New York in its time, the touchstones to what American culture was like roughly around the Civil War era, and the fact that there were multiple different gangs like the Bowery Boys and etc. It's like, that is accurate. The detailed story that's laid out in gangs in New York is nothing that we know to have happened directly. That's true.

That is that. Is that a non-starter for some people perhaps, but like with science fiction, if I just listed out five hard science fiction films, I don't feel like that's a great list of films as much as it is. Here's the hardest science fiction I can find. Well, that was the most successful. You know, or what exactly? That's the name, they got the name right with science fiction, right? And we do with like in book series, but historical fiction is what these kind of movies are, is what I like to think of that.

Yes, because like it's like a movie, it's very like there is a lot of true things about this timepiece, but it's not a true story You know right, yeah, there was a lot of gangs and stuff and yes, this takes place in like, you know And it's set in 1863 like the beginning of the Civil War or they're on the Civil War and all that I don't think I think the Civil War began a couple years before that But But it's about like this This long-running feud between these two gangs,

between this Catholic and Protestant gangs. And I'll start it, well, that didn't start, but in 1846, the main character Leo's dad fought Bill the butcher and was killed. He was called Priests' Valid and he was the leader of the Irish Catholic gang, the dead rabbits. And for 20 years, you know, 20 years go by and here comes, you know, Old Amsterdam Valid coming back, but he, he like hides his identity and gets in good with Bill the Butcher and all this, you know, I don't want to spoil the movie. And also to really quick, another touchstone that this thing kind of hits on his image. Very true.

And like acceptance into a culture that you're kind of a Jason too. Well, the Irish, you know, at that time were very, very like, yeah, there was, yeah. Subjugated and rejected. Peptidized. I don't even know where. Yeah, people were racist towards Irish. Yeah, there were very many prejudice. Yeah.

So it had a budget of $97 million and it made $193. So it made its money back, but like you were saying, like that's not a huge actually, really. Like if you think about it, it's not that big of a release. But I mean, it's still, well, yeah. And it's Martin Scorsese movie. And it's got Daniel DeLuis and it's stuff like, it's a good man, it's a good man. Yeah. But do you want? So this one, this next one, it's kind Daniel D. Lewis and his stuff like it's a good man it's a really yeah but do you want so this one this next one it's kind of a cheating one

I kind of cheated but you know I had to put it in and it is a movie it's a movie on Disney plus so it is a movie now and that is okay so it would be a concert okay you're right you don're right. You don't have to, you don't have to at least risk it, that's a good musical, whatever. But it came out in 2015. And when is the original play, mate? 2015. Okay.

Yeah, that's when the original cast and all that. And the original cast was like, Lin-Man, Miranda was one that made it and he plays Hamilton. And Philippa, so was Eliza Hamilton. And Leslie Odom Jr. was Aaron Burr. Yeah, so it had a $12.5 million budget and it's made well over $500 million now. I'm sure.

It's crazy. I don't like musicals. I don't get into any musicals at all for whatever reason. Maybe it's just because the history aspect of it or whatever, but I love this freaking musical man. I've literally listened to the album a thousand times probably, and I don't like... Hamilton did just really quick. Hamilton to me is one of those things where number one, it's like like a well-beloved artist. Four-learned manual Miranda is weird out. Like it's one of those things that starts as this Sullivan idea that's probably only really sellable to a small

select group of people. And then once that word of mouth and the level of quality is seen, it just boom, it turns into an explosion, a power cag of people interested in that particular, in this case, stage play. And like Hamilton became a phenomenon throughout the culture for a bit of time. And like, it deservedly so. Like, I've even seen it, and I enjoyed it, yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. We went and saw it together, yeah. Yeah, no, like, it's amazing. It really is. He thought the way he thought of the idea, I watched like a documentary on it, and Liv my mom, Miranda, was at a bookstore one day

and saw this book about Hamilton by Robert Chernow. I've read the book, it's a beautiful book. It's a big one, it's a daunting one, but I definitely recommend it. And he's reading through the story and he's like, how has no one done like a story, you know, a movie or something about him, you know, because it is a crazy,

like Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton. The, okay, to get into the story, I'm gonna put it in the story. To get into the story is about Alexander Hamilton. The person that's on our 10 dollar bill, you know, like the guy you see all the time. Founder of the treasury. Founder of the treasury, a bunch of other stuff.

I'm not gonna go into what he did because like, you need to just find. That's a history episode. Exactly, I really, we should honestly do what I'm having in some day. You should, you should. Yes, I should. Yes.

What? It goes through his life. And but the way it's told, it's told in like a rap way. And they use all the original castles with minorities. And I think like going throughout like all the productions we've seen are minorities like they do that specifically for a reason like they kind of like it's a really cool concept and man like it just tells the story really well like honestly they they mess up a couple spots but not much like it's really yeah

I figured actually that would be one of the most accurate ones on your list and one of the things I loved about it was so in the heights was a well-beloved Miranda production and and I still have not okay now hold that I knew that I would just because it's it's what brought him to notoriety but so it was well-beloved by the Obama's But so it was well-beloved by the Obama's They brought him to the White House and at a public thing like this is one of the day me who's a Hamilton is Yeah, publicly in front of all these cameras and everything else He's like I've been working on this stuff about He doesn't actually talk like that either. Yeah, but like I've been working on this at that time at that time Like you say he's big. He's not big. He's big. I'm Broadway

I got that's big but that is big for a number of the culture like if you were the people like you know the fancy society Yeah, I don't know about until this you know like he wasn't doing moana and stuff like no, no This is yeah, like but this is I would say this is the thing that, okay, if you live in a major metropolitan area that can see off Broadway plays, it's way bigger than people like you and I who don't. Yes, true, true, because we're out the bootstreet. That's true.

Be, you'd, like, again, because we're not involved in that sphere, like there's the tonies, there's this, there's that, like there is not involved in that sphere, like there's the tonies. There's this there's that like There is a lot of that stuff that has a prominent place in our culture and Yes for him to be because you're right. He won tonies and stuff like that for in the height And for him to be invited into the White House because they are big fans of it is another thing that I feel like opened eyes to Lin Manuoma Randa. And then...

And then he wants to do something about like the Pony Balance. Right, yeah. So yeah. But the thing that I love the most about it is that he's like kind of surprising everybody, especially to your farmers. And they're like... Yeah. You can tell they're like really trepidates.

Just something like what is about to happen right now? We don't want to deal with some stupid people getting mad about this guy singing. And instead, like, he just starts playing this song and you see Michelle, like snap their fingers to it or whatever else. But like, yeah. You should check the YouTube video. That's one of the first public appearances of anything from Hamilton.

I just found that to be awesome. That is true. Yeah. And it's just like I've been working on this stuff about Alexander Hamilton. Yeah, but you can find like you can watch or listen to the album. I'm like any streaming service or even YouTube, you know, you can find it like it is but starting to do it from start to finish out. Obviously, you know, if can find it like it is what but starting to do it from start to fitness, obviously, you know, if you're going to listen to the album, right? But man, just listen to it. Even if it's that your thing, the first couple, couple songs, I know like a lot of people don't like rap. And it's not even like heavy rap, you know, it's, it's a musical, right?

But just give it a couple and listen to it and listen to the story and man the story's crazy and like the book too Again the book's crazy. I've read his and Washington from that guy and he's a good author too So yeah, okay, yeah, but to go on to my last one and this is one like Like I'm saying with yours. This is one you have to watch multiple times to really understand because it's it's complicated This is one you have to watch multiple times to really understand because it's it's complicated But and it's it's kind of it's recent history and it's pretty accurate a sudden I mean ish and that is the big short Yeah, all right nice Yes, so this came out in 2015 and

It details the 2008 financial collapse caused by the housing bubble. Well, it also predates it by a little bit with one of the people Christian Bales character, right? The guy who's like predicting it well beforehand. Yes. Yeah. Like, it's like, I mean, it does. Yeah, for sure. His story is a whole thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because like, I mean, well, it's like Steve Carell is like, he puts a bunch of money in. Like, I watched this like three or four times, I still don't understand it completely. It's one of those movies where it's like, he bets against the housing market. For years. For years. A bunch of people do, and like,

people find out that he bets against it, and then they're like, whoa, well, like, you know, and then a bunch of people make money on it. But like, it's a really good way to, like, it explains what's f*** up with this country. It really does. Oh, the ending. Yeah.

The ending of this, when. Nelka, Rich. The Alchemist Rich. Well, no, but at the end where he, it is really the somber know of this, like, otherwise a little bit more lighthearted take on of literally a financial crisis that happened within our times that took people we know out of house and home. Destroying the

financial stability of several hardworking people in an American society at that point and still to this day one of the richest on the planet. 15 years ago. Yeah, less than 20 years ago. And at the end, Steven Carell said, I don't know why I call them Steven Carell, but Steve Carell says they just gave him all the money back. All the top people are still in power. It's just gonna happen again or something. To that. There's like one person, who was the guy I always created his name.

There's like one person they got in trouble. It was like bear financial or whatever. Yeah, right, right, yeah or whatever. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, but this movie though, it started Steve Carell, like we said, is Mark Baum Christian Bale, like you were saying, is Michael Burry and Ryan Gosling too. And he's also like the narrator. He's, oh yeah, he's done it. Yeah. And Brad Pitt is Ben Rickard. So there's like tons of, you know, it's a big movie. Yeah like who directed this one? Yeah, I was directed by Adam McKay and I've never heard of him but Adam McKay is well-known for his work alongside Wolfarrow in like

Anchorman I believe is Adam McKay. Yeah, really? Yeah stepbrothers. I guess that makes sense It kind of is like I can tell the style. Yeah, the style is like that Yep, yep, and like there there was a book though and I read this book like the book If you you know if you're a reader the book definitely it hashes it out much better and like but this movie does it well too Yeah, but like it's just it's it's you know It's it's financial stuff like and like they they go out and they think break they break the fourth wall a lot You know, they'll bring it like and like they they go on they think break they break the fourth wall a lot You know, they'll bring it like other like celebrities and stuff to like talk about like explain stuff You know like concepts and all that is still like it's hard to like

Understand all this stuff unless you like in it, but you know the books from Michael Lewis though I mean, it's it's the same name the big short. Yeah, but it's not that big of a book honestly So like it is it's it's readable. It's not you know, it's not that big of a book, honestly. So it's readable. It's not super super deep. The average person could read it, right? Yeah. So this had a $50 million budget, though. That's not that big.

Not at all. Especially for that time, is not much. But it only got $133 million on the box office. It made it's funny back again, but not like it wasn't a huge success. But yeah. Yeah, but man, it's So like, I mean, it made it's funny back again, but not like it wasn't a huge success, but yeah, yeah, but like, man, it's just like, please like, okay. I recommend everyone watch all these movies. If I say you need to watch any of these movies, it's this one because this one, like seriously, will like, it's, you know, it really opens your eyes to like why or just one of the many reasons why like we're having these problems in America right now Like and it's not like I'm not this is not right or left or anything. This is essentially this is a class thing. This is

The lower class versus you know the super rich class and like they you know, the super rich class. And like, they, you know, they, they, they just ran with all this money and they get off scot free. That's exactly what the ladies tell you. And the funny thing is that people that made these movies are honestly, like, probably some of those people that do kind of the same things. But that's another story. So I believe instead of there being this huge dividing line between which side does which more or whatever, the issue is that governance and business are well-to-inbed together for way too long for anybody to have blame as a political entity, right? And we as a society should confront that together, right, and left. That's the point that I wanted to make, right?

Yeah, I agree. But those are our movies. Check them out guys. Yeah, no, absolutely. And one of the things that I kind of alluded to earlier too is I feel like a majority of these 10 films that we've listed are based on books. They really are. And like, you know, like, I mean, readings, like do audio books if you can't read, but like, books are different than movies. And I mean, they really do bring out a more, they flesh out ideas more and everything. But in like, not always to the best extent sometimes too. I feel like there's a reason people latch on to cinemas because

you can sit there in a book from visuals you can't yes yes but you know I just want like you know we're ending here and I would like to say a couple more things like I'm glad that we're still doing this you know it's episode 25 we've been doing this for six months now you know and it's pretty cool thank you for everybody that's been listening and everything. I'm glad that you guys support us and are enjoying our content. We're gonna keep on going and we're gonna keep putting on awesome content for you guys.

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