Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 26 - The Great Pyramid of Kal El

Episode Date: July 29, 2023

On this week's episode we'll be discussing DC's Our Worlds at War comic series and the Great Pyramid of Giza, the first in our 7 wonders of the ancient world series!

What is so funny about truth justice in the American way? It's the Brain Soda Podcast. I, as always, am your host Kyle, joined by my co-host and co-hort. Brad? How's it going? Today, we're going to be talking about the great pyramid of Giza. But first, Brad, in 2001, there was a Superman story that it didn't change the world and it didn't start the world on fire like perhaps a war could. But today we're going to be talking about our worlds at war. Across over

event from DC Comics. Oh, crossover. So, I mean, Superman, I didn't know you said, you did tell me those are our worlds at war comic. I didn't know Superman. I didn't know anything about Superman other than like the base stuff. Well, that's, so let's get into that a little bit. So, one of the things find find really interesting about this book, and spoilers for this segment, I guess, like, I don't really know that I recommend this book. But, I find it really interesting because this is a Superman event that crosses over with Wonder Woman, Young Justice, part of this story is that there is both a Justice League contingent and a outer space like alliance.

Heavenly featured throughout, yet this is not like a crisis event. Crisises and DC events are like huge continuity affecting things and like, this is a giant book in my hands right now, but it's not a crisis, it's just a Superman event. It's strange to that extent. Yeah. So, is this like a civil war type thing like Marvel did or is this like aliens coming? Or I guess I'll learn about that. No, but no, you're right. Yeah, so to be fair, it is definitely not a

civil war type event where there's a bunch of infighting between your favorite heroes, right? Okay, and I will say that I feel like DC is better about it's not just grabbing your action figures and bashing them together, right? Yeah, you gotta act like they're punching and kicking and stuff, you know? No, what I mean is that, but that is very good. No, what I mean is that like, when characters have conflict in the DC universe, it is very much like Reserved to interpersonal conflicts and if it ever does manifest into like a fight or a physical altercation like a great example Is Guy Gardner getting one punched by Batman and Justice League International like Like, Guy Gardeners just sitting there being a-

Okay. Batman one punched Knox Mom. That is just it. Like, Batman will put you in your place and that's it. And that's all you need to know and that's all that it ever needs to be. Like, Guy Gardener doesn't need to sit there with a her John. Be like, one of these days, Batman, I'm gonna get you back. And then like, you know what I mean?

Like, it doesn't need to be this huge thing. The one big flaw that DC has in that realm is that ever since the Dark Knight returns from Frank Miller, like Batman and Superman have to be in conflict. When realistically, like they're the best of friends, it's stupid. Okay, I was gonna say because like, while you're saying that, I'm like, don't Batman and Superman fight all the time. Like again, I know a little about DC, but yes.

Now they do because everybody saw in one of the greatest Batman stories of all time. They're like, well, you know, I want to have one of the Batman stories. That's fun. Yeah, it's stupid. It's so stupid. And like, shout out, I know he's one of my favorite writers, so I'm not just saying this because he's one of my favorite writers. Shout out to Mark Wade's World Finest right now, so I'm not just saying this because he's one of my favorite writers. Shout out to Mark Wade's World Finest right now because there's a book right now where Superman and Batman are best friends, and it's great. And go Mark Wade for doing that, for real for real. Yeah, it does!

In a sense, you know, like, superheroes, why would superheroes fight? They're good people, you know? They want to save the day. You think they're like, you're good. Right, and like, one thing, so really quick, another thing about this book that like, I don't feel like it tips his hand to tell you until you're like three quarters of the way through is that this is a book that happens after Batman has been kicked out of the Justice League. Okay, I didn't know yet,

kicked out of the Justice League, but. Batman at one point made contingency plans if members of or the entirety of the Justice League, but Batman at one point made contingency plans if members of or the entirety of the Justice League went rogue. Rosalgoold gets ahold of those plans and then uses them on them. And once the Justice League finds out they're like, wait a minute, you had all these secret plans in case one of us turn bad and like, no bro, you need to get out. That's kind of fair. Fair point. Fair point. And if you ever want to see this realized in some sort of a film,

Justice League Doom would be the animated adaptation of that, right? And it is a very interesting story and the book itself I believe is Tower of Babel from Mark Wade. Actually I think yeah, there is almost no Batman in this book until near the end. So it was mostly like, you're saying wonder, well, I don't know the guy, the other guy they're saying, but I, I know wonder, well, men. Young Justice.

Young Justice is a team. It's a team team, like team Titan. Got you. But not Titan. Yeah, right. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. So like, I mean, why wasn't Batman in it? I think number one is the fact that Justice League, separation with Batman, probably caused the line to kind of

step aside and be in its own thing. As far as what's going on in Gotham at this point, it may be setting up. No man's land in Batman's book, Day to Day, I'm not sure. But he literally is not featured until some of the ending. Well, okay, one last thing. So it was like, is there a decent DC universe that I guess, because it sounds like

they're of what you just said that there is. So they like have it like really like intertwined like for years they've had it all absolutely. So a breakdown of how DC would differentiate from Marvel. DC comics is primarily the original publisher and home of Superman Flash, Green Lantern, Apple Man, Wonder Woman, yeah. You're dead on, you're right, like the original seven, yep. Part of why many heavy hitters throughout DC's long list of characters and books is because they bought Fawcett, which is the original publishers of Captain Marvel who we would know today as Shazam. They bought Charleston comics who had Blue Beetle, all the characters that ended up becoming the Watchmen.

Like Watchmen is original Charleston characters adopted by Alan Moore into Watchmen, right? So they kind of bought up all the little guys. It kind of reminds me of like a distributor, like something like a, at a store, you know, like a Coca-Cola will carry but just seven up products into the stock. But it's different in the sense that it would take

a large percentage of the population to stop buying a majority of soda that it does. Okay. Like at one point, Shazam as Captain Marvel was near if not outselling Supermanet. Really? Yes. And they bought them though. Well, I guess it's like...

Yeah! I would too! I would too! That's probably the main crux of why you buy Boston Comics. Marvel, on the other hand was timely became Marvel produced several different genres of books and then once we hit the Marvel age fantastic for number one and everything in that universe spins out of that one book. DC however is more like a patchwork quilt. Okay. Wonder Woman stuff is over here

is more like a patchwork quilt. Okay. Wonder Woman stuff is over here, and it's kind of adjacent to these characters. Superman stuff is over here, and it's kind of adjacent to these ones. And then, you know, they start to kind of weave in together to the point where it makes one whole tapestry, right? That, I believe, is the best example

of why it would be the way that it was. But the story in and of itself is reminiscent of other Superman stories like Rending Battle, what's so funny about truth justice in the American? In the sense that Superman starts facing off against a litany of different members of his rogue's gallery. And after a while more and more of this stuff starts to like not only seem to escalate, but it seems to be interconnected, right? This also takes place during the Lutheran president. Wait, Luther, he's in the extended universe then like Batman superman's all them president. He is always Superman's ex-factor. His main antagonist villain, right? Yeah. But Luther in the DC universe as a whole could be closest akin to Dr. Doom,

the most powerful in a scale of like finance or influence, and significantly on that scale for power and danger, right? At this point, Lex Luthor is the president, and Lex Luthor kind of tips the scale of for you as the reader to a certain extent about who all is in play within this story. But actually, throughout a majority of this, Luther and Superman are on the same side.

As a matter of fact, it gets so heavy with the threat that faces not only the earth, but the universe that dark side jumps on the side of Superman, Luther, and this alliance of other planets. Okay, I know Darkside has, but he sounds like he's bad, so I'm assuming he's really bad. Darkside is literally the inspiration for Thanos. I mean, carbon copy, whatever, I mean, it's super good, but if you wonder where Thanos came from, it really is kind of a darkside

riff to enter in the Marvel universe by Jim Shooter. The granite slate skinned looking dude in a blue tunic who shoots lasers from his eyes that can go anywhere. The reason why I wanted to talk about this book though, more so than it just being a early 2000s Superman event. And to be honest, it's a part of good stuff from Joe Casey, Joe Kelly, Jeff Loeb and Ed McGinnis and a bunch of different people who are writing these books, but like this is such an early 2000s late 90s book too that like it takes itself seriously enough that issues laden throughout have quotes from important wartime American speeches. And this actually contains the death of a palata on point. A death of who? A hapa-ta Wonder Woman's mother.

And I will say this about hapa-ta's, is that it is one of the more graphic looking things that I've ever seen in a superhero book. Really? Do she, her face is like caved in and significantly melted skin? Okay, it's hyper-added. Is that like normal in comics? Or, I mean, like, I mean, it's like violence like that. At this time?

Yeah. Yes, that's the thing, is that I mean like I mean it's like violence like that. At this time? Yes, that's the thing is that I feel like number one DC does hold the honor of the woman in the fridge trope. Because literally they took Kyle Rainer's girlfriend and put her in a fridge. Yeah, but all of comic books to a certain extent, we could even go back to episode 22 and make an argument that Electra's death is one of the things that becomes a common trope throughout Cape Books. Throughout superhero adventures is the death or attack of a woman. Unfortunately so, but that is one of the things that I feel like this book, like,

and look, no, a damsel in distress is someone who's like tied up and must be saved. She is brutally ended here. But I know what you mean though, yeah. Yeah, like that's like a, that is a common trope though. Like I mean, not even just comics, you know? But not so much as much. No, not at all.

Right, you know, but like back in the day for sure. No, I believe comic books has, has moved on from the woman in the fridge very much so. I definitely do. I think like, yeah, save me. Right, and like to be fair, that's really quick. Like I do agree that is a massaging as problem within us as a society, writers and creatives as a whole who may be reaching

at times, but there is a reason why you reach to that limit is because it's in heat, like we were talking about with heat, it's an easy switch to flip. Would you be able to to understand easily how someone would feel if their mother or their lover was tragically brutally mistreated or eviscerated? Yes you would. You know what I mean? Boom! It's an easy way to plot moving excuses, yeah, for sure. Right. So this book, for a large part with the battles that we talked about before, revolves around Luther as president with Waller as part of his like, secretary of defense or something like that. But anyway, a higher up position than even she normally holds within the DC universe, assembling an even

stronger, more formidable Suicide squad asked team to go into space and face off against this entity known as Imperiex. And Imperiex is like this large suit bearing power of an entity. He is like the embodiment of entropy he refers to himself. So it's not even like a bunch of aliens. Is this one giant like being? There's several different suits that are drones. Okay. Right? Yeah. And once that suit has been compromised or breached, it then explodes in like this massive power and things like that. Now with everything that we've discussed in this book so far, the big lead off in the beginning that we were talking about with Luther that ties in towards the end is that secretly manipulating and working his way through all of these things is

Brainiac, the like AI kind of villain of Superman. If you've ever watched the animated series Brainiac is the AI that runs across Krypton knows that the planet is going to be destroyed like runs across Krypton knows that the planet is going to be destroyed like Jorrell superman's father Predix and just is like, I'm not gonna let it go. I know that's real. And then returns and is like a formidable foe. I got Superman. So at this point, Aquaman gets it in this book.

The whole justice league gets it in this book. Steel gets it in this book. Like I feel like if I were in a room full of Common-day DC common book fans of grin I get this books 20 years old right fair enough But my point is is that I feel like if I were like yeah, and we're our worlds at war everybody be like Which which one is that again? But like dude to peek a Kansas gets blown off of that. So people like, do they have like lasting ramifications or like, well, I feel like they do

because the politics is dead for a while. Aquaman is dead or missing for a while. But like, not really because deaths don't last in comic books. The two or three deaths that would always matter in comic books, the two or three deaths that would always matter in comic books, right, not including like Uncle Ben and you know what I mean like a direct inspiration for a character to be that character. Yeah, he's always dead but Bucky Barnes came back. That's the winner soldier. That's Captain America's second. Jason Todd came back from the dead from Batman's past after the Joker killed him with a crowbar.

You know, I'm a Batman's parents ever come back? No, that was one of the things I was getting at as a... Well, okay, wait a minute. Kind of because Thomas Wayne from the Flashpoint Universe is like a character that people really buy into and dig and because he's bad at who's gun. You know, I mean, yeah, of course, there are always going to be, and that's again, one of the big appeals about comic books,

there's always an alternate universe. Yeah, there's an excellent one from Wayne. It's explore to tell those stories, but in mainline continuity Bringing Jason Todd back and bringing Bucky Barnes back Have been things that have happened and honestly those books don't sell terribly You know what I mean like it's not yeah that you'll have this mass initial revolt of like how do you bring back Bucky Barnes but like Bucky's been in like six movies, you know red red hood Jason Todd has red hood in the outlaws

And is a part of the bat family and whatever else as if yeah, because it adds more different stories You know like it does it does you can bring you can bring characters back and like well There's different universes too like I've noticed I don't read a lot of comics but you know you're right especially with like Marvel I think there's probably more or maybe is there I don't know um Marvel Marvel have the the ultimate universe and it has a lot of like if these events were to happen, like Hulk, for example, has a story called Future and Perfect, in which Hulk has became the Maestro and things like that. Although that is never manifested in our common continuity, it is something that like has been alluded to or whatnot throughout different runs from people.

Like I think Mark Wade and Jerry Duggan, we're talking a lot about Mark Wade this episode, kind of alluded to things like the Maestro in their like 2012 indestructible Hulk series. Yeah, I mean, there's things of that nature, absolutely. To go further with that, DC literally has different events every 10 or so years called crises that go like the multiverse is all in one earth prime now.

10 years later they're like, okay guys there is a multiverse. Okay now it's the omniverse. All right now we're dealing with time Straight Life and I feel like for all these different stories they've ever done that kind of allude to if not directly our crises, our worlds at wars trying to be one and it doesn't succeed in it. It's a cool little Superman event if you're willing to read an early 2000s Superman book. You know what I mean? And that's really all that it comes out to. And like, unfortunately, it's not a great symbol. Like you could say the great pyramid of Giza is, right? Yeah, I'd say like, that's actually one of the greatest symbols. Okay, tell me about it. It's one of the seven wonders of the ancient world and I really wanted to do all seven of them.

So really quick, I know that you've brought up once or twice some of the seven wonders of the ancient world. Yes, I have. Right. Okay. Yeah, but now I'm not mistaken. I think I've mentioned at least the temple of Zeus. Because of the original. So anyway, so because of you discussing the original Olympics, we talked about the temple of Zeus very, very briefly. Exactly.

And then another one that you were talking about very, very briefly was also an episode 22 when you were talking about it being recreated by the guy who made the statue of the Buddha, right? Oh, yep. The classes of Rhodes or whatever. That's what it was, yes. Exactly. So I brought up a couple,

you know, and like, they just fascinating me. These like seven wonders. I have to talk about all seven of these and the time period that we talk. It's an it'd be impossible. So, I'll for a time. On going coverage, baby. Exactly. I will go, you know, I'm not going to do it in like a seven block series. Well, I'll just bring them up every now and then but my favorite one or you know, I don't even say it's my favorite one, but the most well known and the one that's still around Okay, is the pyramid of Giza, right? It's the only one that's still around and it's the oldest and the largest of the seven wonders actually Really? All right. So this thing was built in 2500 BC so 4500 years ago this pyramid was built in 2500 BC. So 4500 years ago this pyramid was built and you get if you

think about that like it's older to the Romans than we are to them. Wow. Okay. Yeah. So this is ancient ancient. Right. Right. Yeah. It was built in the fourth dynasty of Egypt, right, by the Pharaoh Kufu. And that it's known because it's attributed to him by a clay seal bearing his name that was found there. And also by ancient historians, Herodotus and Daudoris. Okay. So it was initially about 481 feet or like 147 meters tall. And it was the tallest man made structure for like over 3,800 years, right? And it's made by like, but 2.3 million blocks, right?

And that's it was it's 5.5 million tons of limestone 8,000 tons of granite and over 500 tons of mortar like it's or 500,000 tons of mortar. Sorry. Yeah. Like that's insane. Yeah. There's so much like Mortar sorry. Yeah, like that's insane. Yeah, there's so much like Earth there, you know, and like we'll get into this maybe in a little bit I really don't want to talk about though the crazy conspiracy theory do I need to spike my hair up? I mean is that is that something we're saying right now? Yeah, but like Well, humans made it. I'll put it that way. They did. I think humans made it. Yeah, I don't, like, I mean, you gotta give credit to people, you know, like they were just as smart as us, but yeah, go ahead.

No, right. So the one question I do have is that of any other pyramids that I would be familiar of or with, there's the ones in Central and South America. Yes. How far along do these predate those? 2700 years. Okay.

Like, yeah, yeah, it's like, you know, these were built in again. Oh, my line. Yeah. And the pyramids in South America, those are like in Central America. I think if not mistaken, those were built in like the, you know, the sea, the A.D.s, whatever you want to call it, you know, in the last 2000 years. Like I think if I'm not mistaken, it was like in the hundreds. That's the Aztecs that incans the Mayans, right?

Yeah, exactly. Myans mostly. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But like, I mean, there's pyramids all over. And do you know why there's pyramids all over? Right. An astrological like marker, like here's the North Star, we're going to try and gulate that North Star to this point or whatever it may be, right? The triangulate might not be the right term, but like, okay, so why are there that many pyramids? Because when you stack things up, that's the shape that it makes. When you stack Earth up. You're sorry, that's funny though. I'm like, is it because, is it like this great, grand thing across time and space?

You're like, when you stack. Yeah, like, think about it. Yeah, like, if you like, yeah, like, look at like, you know, like, when you think of quarries, you know, like we have one, you know, by the way, we live, or just like a sand thing or something, but when you like you know dropping so far. Yeah, yeah, there's that conveyor belt that just drops right at the top You see that a lot. It makes a pyramid, you know, it makes it like essentially a pyramid Yeah, cuz it all lands in a centralized location that sprawls out to a certain diameter and then everything builds off of that Why does diameter up towards a central point at the top? Right.

Yeah. I mean, you can do it on the beach. Do it on the beach with sand, make it like a sand, like just pile sand up. Like it eventually makes like a pyramidal shape. Right. And that's because that's just the way, like, the easiest way for earth, you know,

for things to settle. Exactly. So like, people figure that out. And they're like, well, let's build a construction building that way because then we can make big old buildings because that's the way the easiest way to build buildings. And it's also easy to just build layer. That is very true. Yeah, versus all the reinforcement and structural integrity that has to be accumulated for whatever it's kind of already ingrained into the shape of a pyramid.

Right. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like this pyramid, it really, it was an engineering fee. It is a maculant designed, right? You know, yeah, exactly. Like this, I'm kind of like downplaying it, but that's like when people like say, oh, all these pyramids, you know,

like they're connected. Why is all these pyramids around the world? It's because, you know, you pile stuff up and it makes a pyramid, that's why. Right, if you pile sand on the feet, you would literally be a pyramid, right? Yes, exactly, yes. So, so what they had to do, you know,

speaking about how grand this was, right? They had to like cut back the bedrock a little bit because you know, it's in the desert, right? They're sand and all that. Right. But only like a strip around the perimeter was leveled. And the bedrock reaches a height of like 20 feet or six meters above the pyramid base

at the location of the entrance right now. Like, so like, that's not even talking about like the sand and stuff. This is the bedrock. So they really dug into it pretty deep. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, but you gotta think about it, man. Like you're building this, like that thing weighs, we're talking, let's see, crazy. I mean, but you gotta think about it, man. Like you're building this like that thing weighs We're talking let's see 5.5 million or 5.5 million tons of limestone, right? And I'm like 500,000 tons

Mortar and 8,000 whatever grand as you're talking six million tons of Earth, right? Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of weight. Yeah, it's like a modern skyscraper or more probably. I'm almost surprised that like I mean, it's not surprising because it doesn't have with anything of that sort because like I obviously the earth's mantle or whatever it had to be is just that strong But you would think like that much weight in one centralized location would like perhaps a fact like The ground adjacent to it, but it never seems to it's crazy. Yeah, it is weird. Well, that's the whole thing like bedrock, man. Like once you get down

to that bedrock, you know, as long as it's safe out and baby, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's the freaking earth, man. Like there was holes dug around it, though, which probably I'm sure it's okay. It's have much crazy stuff like that, but it's like, it's probably just wouldn't post to help with the alignment, you know, more than likely. And all this stuff's like a lot of it. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, it's like, I don't know. There's, again, with this, there's like tons of conspiracy theories and like, I don't know, I didn't even look up conspiracy theories. I've just heard about them. Don't, don't everybody at home do not like, dime down the rabbit hole with that.

Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, look up some stuff for fun. Well, you know, like some TV shows are fun to watch like make fun of. If you know like, like about the subject, like I see some things, but most, for the most part, but that's what I'm saying.

This is things that, you know, I've looked at reputable sources and looked up. So, I guess. Right. So, it was originally covered in a smooth limestone, though, and had granite stones for structure. Over time, it's been worn away or people have taken things from it. So there was these large granite blocks, though, that were used on the roof of the King's chamber.

We'll get into what the different rooms and stuff, but these things weigh like anywhere from like 25 to 80 tons, right? So these things are huge, man. You got to think like, yeah. And like they're actually used to like support it though. Like they kept it, you know, from collapsing. The Greeks thought that the workforce was slaves, right? And that's like the kind of what a lot of people right now. workforce was slaves, right? And that's like a lot of people right now. I was gonna say, I would say modern conception probably says it's slave. But anybody who really knows anything

about modern Egyptology would know that, no, it was actually conscript workers, right? So like these people, it was a religious thing. They would have people from all over Egypt would come during the off-season when they weren't farming and stuff. And would build that and like they would get paid in bread and beer, you know, like that was like there was like plenty of archaeological evidence like tons of people buried right by the pyramid actually that worked on there.

Is that part of the reason why people might believe it slaves is because conscripts are like devotees who are like not not the cast a social cast like slaves were in the kind of Egypt but life. First of all it was like it was Egyptians it wasn't like you know people they like went off and captured and brought back as slaves because usually that like that almost always is what's right anyways Anyways, it was more of a tax, think of it as paying your taxes. That was like, thousands of Christopher. Or like a pilgrimage, right?

Yeah, they believed that their Pharaoh, their king was holy. They got it. So it was a religious thing to build these pyramids at that time like they got right. Yeah. So like they thought that was a religious thing to build the these pyramids at that time, you know, right, right? And how they did that like, well, I mean, it's still like not exactly known how like for sure, you know, like they got they built the pyramid, right? But they would hammer grooves into the stone faces, right? And then they would insert these these wooden wedges kind of like, you know like door stops, you think of it. And then they would soak these wedges in water. And from that, the expansion of the wood would cause the stones to crack.

And like the crack would make a huge crack. It wants the stone cracks, you know, the whole thing cracks. They all sheared on the, or you know, you could like hammer it in and stuff too. Like I've seen that. Right, it's starting to go, right. They can, you know you could like hammer it they would hammer it in and stuff to like I've seen that right It's starting to go right like they can you know you can cut off he cleave huge portions of stone by Who's like that, you know like that's how they were doing and then like how they moved it There's a million different theories, but it more most likely was like some type of like

Have rolling, you know like with with like tree trunks and like just tons and tons of people pull of them damn Flacks, you know, with like tree trunks and like just tons and tons of people pull the damn flax, you know. It sounds so crazy, but like if you push your car you're pushing a two-ton desk mobile that's just in neutral because there's wheels on it. Like, you know, right. Exactly. Yeah, like, I mean, that's exactly pretty much you put wheels under it, you know, and it's, you know, and they roll them on over or they like bow to them up

You know, they put them on boats and then like transport them up the Nile and stuff like that. So like Yeah, like I mean because the quarry says we're out you know like kind of far away now like super far away Right further than would be expected to be able to be done at the time without spiker hair up aliens. Yeah to be able to be done at the time without spiker hair up aliens. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, so like, and then like to get it like to file it, I didn't really look that up because there's a lot of different theories, but the one that sounds most feasible to me is a ramp. A common thing is that the top was cat with gold, right? Like, I don't know if you've probably heard of that. You know, actually, actually I think like the great pyramid is on our paper money right? But it probably wasn't gold it was probably like limestone you know, but like

Popular myth has that it was gold, but it was called a pure median so but nowadays though the pyramids actually like 26 feet or eight meters shorter and about a thousand tons of the materials missing from the top the cap got Removed, you know from for whatever so maybe it was like really like exquisite limestone or something I mean, you know, this thing's 4500 years old right and this is a very old structure Right and speaking of the structure Let's talk about the chambers right let's talk about inside right There's two entrances into the pyramid the ridge There's the original one and then

like a forced passage that was met at a junction to the original one right. I don't know if they kind of get into the original one or they just dug and then ended up finding it but yeah. So there's four known chambers and that's the Queen's chamber, the King's chamber, this unfinished chamber in the bedrock and then relieving chambers right. So the sub-tra unfinished chamber in the bedrock, and then a relieving chambers, right? Oh, right. So, the sub-training chamber in the bedrock, right, it was dug beneath the pyramid, obviously. It measures about 27 and a half by 46 and a half by 13 feet high, right?

So it's not that big. If you really think about it, that's a pretty small, like 27 feet by 46 feet is like a decent sized room, right? But you know, giant room. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's not. Yeah. Yeah.

Like I first I heard those dimensions and I'm like, that's pretty big. And then I'm like, this thing is cute. Yeah. This is the biggest structure on earth fertile in here. Yeah. No. This is the biggest structure on earth fertile in the year. Yeah, no, like it's I guess I didn't say the base of it is 755 feet or 230 meters square. So like it's you know, it's pretty big, you know Right, but yeah, so the sub-training chamber was like it's unfinished, right?

But it is still as like trenches dug on one side It was known about the classical era But it was forgot about during the Middle Ages because because like, you know, after the Romans and all that fell a lot of the... Right, a lot of... Yeah. The Grand Gallery, there's like, there's three ways to go, like when you first come in, right? And that's a vertical shaft that leads down, like past a small natural limestone cave, and that descends into the sub-training chambers, right? And then there's like a horizontal corridor that leads to the Queen's chambers, and then there's like a path up that leads to the gallery itself and into the

King's chamber. The gallery is like the hallway, they call it the gallery. Okay, all right, I was like gallery. Sorry, the grand gallery is like, because there's like, you know, like pictures and stuff, like it's like a big old stale. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, like pictures and stuff, like it's like a big old stare. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it leads up to like the King Chamber. Right. There was this big void that's found above it in 2017 using this thing called Mewon radiography. So like, what they do is they like look, they like look for like these particles bombarding the pyramid.

And they can like tell the difference in like these like particles come from the space, you know? And yeah, and they can tell by like, there's a cavity, so it moves differently, right? Okay. Yeah, they're able to like tell from that that there's a cavity above. They haven't like looked into it, but it's at least like 30 meters or 98 feet, right?

And it's cross section is similar to the grand gallery. So it's like pretty much, it might just be a relieving chamber though. Okay. So like, yeah, and it's been to confirm with different technology, like nuclear engine films, simulator, hotoscopes and gas detectors. And I'm not going into that, but I just wanted the name some crazy random detector devices. Right. But the Queen's chamber, you know, like it's off to the side. And like it might even been like where the sarcophagus originally was. Like, you don't know, like, because that's, you know, it's old.

But like the King's Chamber is like, it's very grand. There's like writing all over, or you know, Hyrule of the Holy Spirit. And there's these like relieving chambers above it that they found. And I think they might have found that with like radar or a lightar or something like that. But they also like drill up above it and like saw they saw something with the camera, you know. So they like have done that. But they're they're think that they're just relieving chambers.

So it doesn't cave in. But right. Right. So like some crazy thing that could be aliens. I've been talking. No, it's actually where they beam. That must be it. That's where they're hiding.

That's where the aliens are hiding. Yep. That's exactly. Yep. Yeah. But yeah, so like I mean, it's really like you know, it's a really cool place to go and I think I'm pretty sure you can go into it Maybe it's commonly believed that the architect was a kufu's visier Hemi Unu and like it's a funerary complex. That was not like obviously you've see I mean most people have seen the great pyramid of Giza and one way or another And like they see that there's more than one Purement you know, there's there's two other big pyramids the interiors of all three are open But climbing them is illegal and offenders can go to prison for three years. Okay. That's what I thought

Yeah, I thought you could go in there really and I mean obviously people climb it all the time like it happens a lot But yeah, like that's the thing. Like, man, I know, like it's probably been climbed, you know, for thousands of years, obviously, but like, I don't know, I just also thousands of years old. Yeah. Every time so many climbs on it, that's one little piece of rock that falls off of it, you know, like, I mean, I'm sure that one little, you know, whatever a crack in a stone or this and that. And like, you know, over the years, like, it will eventually go away, obviously.

Maybe not, I mean, it's gonna be long, but I mean, yeah. And like, even beyond that, man, like, that I could understand certain permits of it and things like that. But like, for it to be one of the seven ancient wonders of the world and Knowing that some who wants to be Logan Paul Can sit there and go like I'm gonna climb the great pyramid of Giza today, you know, and it's like All right, man like I think you're not one of the people who should be able to do that because you're just an entitled

stupid exactly the people who should be able to do that because you're just an entitled stupid. Exactly. You know what I mean? Make sure to sit in the room. Yeah, all right. Thank you. Yeah, that is a good point. So yeah, there was the smaller pyramids. There's actually three.

I'm sorry. There's not two. There was three for his wives and then his multiple wives. Right. And then there was even an even smaller satellite pyramid that, and for his cats and. Yeah, well, yeah. And then there was even an even smaller satellite pyramid that and For his cats and sh**. Yeah, well, yeah, like, I mean, yeah, I think this wasn't even the peak of like Egyptians or Egypt's like, you know, power, I guess, in the area.

But like it was, I don't, I've tried to listen to like different things about the history of Egypt, but there's so much like it's like right it's so ancient You know like there's literally thousands of years of history to talk about. It's insane. Yeah but But there's also five Buried solar barges, right and they're thought to have been like belong to the Pharaoh obviously fair Hufu What was found but in 1954 by Kamal and Malak and a pit carved in the Giza bedrock, right? It was built out of cedar planks and it was supposed to carry Kufu to the Sun God rock across the heavens.

So, it was buried intentionally, because all this is like, you know, if you know a lot about Egypt, this is like the reason why they buried them is so like there's evidence on the boat that it was used used to like as a ritual vessel And was possibly used as to carry kufu's and ball body from emphasagiza And he may have been used as his pilgrimage ship to the holy places So like this might have been like you know like a really important boat, right? It's now in display and especially built museum in Giza too, so like, I mean, yeah, you don't hear about that much. I would like to see. Yeah, I would, I mean, that is one of the things,

like some of the museums that I visited, like the Holocaust Museum, Field Museum in Chicago. And, you know, those were great experiences, I remember to this day, but like to hear that, and honestly, it's probably specialized because of the materials and the time in which it was like to see that structure in the time

It still has available on this earth is is probably one of those things that would stick in my my mind even further Yeah, for sure like it's like man, especially like cuz you like there's really good museums and other areas of the world Obviously like they have museums of their history like you know, yeah You can see a lot of traveling ones thanks to like Britain taking over half the world and all that because they stand there all the way. Yeah, but like really though, man, like if you want to see some really like ancient things,

like you have to go to the place, you know, like in most places. And like obviously you would want to, if you're that interested, like go like exploring and contribute to their local culture and to You know their economy and all that by by visiting there and you know visiting sites I don't know like about Egypt. I know ever since Arab Springs and stuff or maybe even before that I've heard mixed things about like traveling to Egypt. I would love to but you know

I don't know you know it I've heard there's like scammers and stuff There's scammers everywhere in tourist areas, but I'm sure it's going to geese up to the great pyramid. It's probably pretty okay, you know, that's like one of the biggest well known sites in the world. So, yeah. Well, that's what I was going to say is you got to think, man, like if tourism is something that is readily available within that area, it usually is only

able to thrive and survive to a certain extent because there is a safe, predetermined path that many people can follow to see those sites and experience those things. Exactly. Like there's an airport airport nearby and all that. Yeah. Definitely get a travel guide before you go there, find a reputable one and all that. And see if you could speak with people who've been there

before too and get a feel for it. Yeah, for sure, man. Exactly. And you probably speak to local people. Anyways, to wrap things up a little bit, just a little bit about Kufu. He was the second Pharaoh of the fourth dynasty, right? And he succeeded his father, Snephero.

And there's only one complete portrait of him. I'm surprised to read it. It's like, yeah. Like this 45-year-old years ago, but yeah, this little three-inch statue of him. Oh, wow. And it's, yeah. Yeah, his length of reign is uncertain though.

And like the Royal Canada of Turin in the 19th Dynasty sets it at 23 years, right? And there's like it's like a royal thing like that was mainly okay, but Herodotus though, which is an ancient Greek Historian which we're gonna do an episode on him one day for sure. I love Herodotus. He's the first historian So he's not just a Greek historian. He is the first to say it. Yeah He's not just a Greek historian. He is the first to say it. Yeah, but he puts it at 50 years. And like, I mean, but you know, who knows again? Manetho says it was 63 years, another historian, but it's probably an exaggeration. But recent inscriptions, points to his reign being about like 26 or 27 years long, which is pretty decent for a kid, you know, or a Pharaoh, whatever.

And says it's in the 13th cattle count of his reign. And that happens every two years, right? about like 26 or 27 years long, which is pretty decent for a kid, or a Pharaoh, whatever. And it says it's in the 13th cattle count of his reign. And that happens every two years, right? So like every two years, see we do a cattle count, like it senses something cattle. And there was an inscription that said, you know, if the 13th cattle count of his reign,

and they haven't seen anything after that, so they're like, well, that would be 26 years. Yeah, right. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Herodotus claims that he's a trionical king, but man, he probably like, that so they're like well that would be 20 years yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah herodotus claims that he's a trionical king but man he probably like I mean he was he was the first historian but like don't we rock you set a lot of crazy stuff you know that probably like what royalty at that point wasn't

air quote tyrannical and I'm not saying that they weren't like dog in that day and age if you were to stand against the throne you would have your head locked off period. Yes exactly. Anywhere on the planet sorry guy that's the way that happens. Yeah exactly. If you claim there was like 10,000 labors there were forced to build the pyramid and there probably was 10,000 labors but like again we talked earlier it was more likely like conscripts. Yeah yeah he called the pyramid a cat kufu Which means they're horizon of kufu. So like I like that and like they knows yeah Like I said though there wasn't much known about kufu's rain like there's several buildings and

inscriptions with his name on it, but like you know They're just like buildings and stuff like that. They don't really tell about like what he did right but he like his predecessors Though he said on expeditions like to find turquoise and copper mines. And he also sent out like embassies to attempt to trade with people in modern day Lebanon and Bill Bloss for the Seager Wood. You know, like I was saying, they're both, and like that's the thing, man.

Like yes, they had a lot of civil, like they were like peak civilization, right? At that time. But like there was so much trade and stuff going on. And I think we've talked about this before. Several times. Exactly. I don't like just, it fascinates me.

I'm sorry. No, no, like, listen, by all means, and I'm one of the people who look at it and like, maybe I don't have this deep rooted gong ho attitude about it, but it is always so interesting to realize that like, we were just talking about with the internet, the communication lines, the trade routes, the fact that and all forms of life throughout the entirety of us knowing it on this planet, we've been able to interact, coexist, and transfer our thoughts, our art, our skills, our products, or

labors. You know what I'm saying? Like, that is a beautiful thing that truly shows equality. It does, man. And like, that was beautiful. Wow, Chef's Kiss, baby. Yeah. I just want to, like,

sorry. I want my go out with one thing. Just imagine yourself in like a Bronze Age colony or not even a colony like an ember, right? In Egypt, imagine yourself like doing that. Like, you know, you have a sense of community. Like, you know, your whole community comes together at this time of year and moves these giant

blocks. I know it's kind of funny, but you know, you're moving these giant blocks, you're building this giant thing. Like actually, like, the about your construction workers, you know, the men, obviously, the white men, you know, are doing this. I think of your modern day construction workers building skyscrapers. It's the same concept, right? And then they go back and do their farming and the summer, the spring and summer. And like, just put yourself in that, like in that time period though, man. Like there's so much, like it was very advanced, but like so basic and like, I don't know.

I think about that sometimes. Like it was so connected to like the trade networks. Like I could just imagine being like a sale. Oh my God. Like fourth, the 4,000 years ago, right? Like sailing, sailing around the Mediterranean and seed all these crazy cities that are like completely different.

Every city you go to is like completely different. Like you know, like the cultures are different. The language is like that now, but like. Yeah, this place has cobblestone and this place has dirt roads and this place has red and this place don't yeah it's just crazy that's the great pyramid of giza great I will I can't be telling you about the other six ancient wonders I don't know which one we'll do next but for sure I think that is a good place to start with ongoing coverage for us

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