Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 3 - Augustus vs Kratos Live at Wrestlemania

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

Join us as we discuss Vince McMahon, continue with Rome, and the upcoming God of War tv series! ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to the Almighty Brain Soda Podcast. I, as always, am your faithful host, Kyle, and I am joined here today with Bradley. How's it going? And Frog. Hey, babe. Is that the laugh of Babe with you? Or is that your laugh to your joke? Oh, that's all me, baby.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah, I love that. I'm gonna have to be kind of here with a shirt off. I'm smooth right now. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, as always, we are so glad that you are here. This being our third episode, we got some interesting stuff to cover today. Brad, you're going to be returning back to ancient Rome, aren't you? Yeah, I just want to continue the story a little bit. We're probably going to make it hopefully to the end of Augustus's reign.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Very, very cool, man. And Frog, what do you got on tap for today? Well, I was going to give a little banter about not a hot topic, but a cute little one. Just a little God of War subject. There's a prime series coming up and it's a little actor discussion, I guess. And I'm going to be talking about Vince McMahon, his recent return to the WWE and its potential sale. But with that, Brad, why don't you start us off today?
Starting point is 00:01:48 All right, yeah. Have you guys heard of Augustus? Do you know who that is? I remember hearing a little bit about him in the time that we would have been studying ancient history in like high school, mostly like exploits, you know, the decadence of Rome type stuff. But beyond that, just the name, probably. OK, just that he was one of the Roman empires.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Talking when I say about him, I don't know the details about his life, but I know he was up there. He was one of those guys. He was. Yeah. I mean, you know, like he gave us he's actually so extremely influential in like our everyday lives that we wouldn't even like realize. Like I mean, August, for instance, is named after him. And October Octavian was his name.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Actually, before he was named Augustus, which means the August one. So he's pretty crazy. So I'm going to I'm going to kind of go into his story. I'm going to backtrack a little bit because his story kind of begins, you know, with Caesar, so we have to kind of go before he died. But after Caesar, he after Egypt, I kind of skipped over this last last episode. But one thing I do want to mention is he was there's this he had to fight
Starting point is 00:03:06 some extra senators and some, you know, people, some holdouts from his war with Pompey over in Africa and like Northern Africa. And one of them was Cato and people of people that are familiar with Rome, one of them Cato was like, you know, kind of a famous senator in history. But when he when he was two packs, best friend, wasn't he? Two pack. Yeah. I mean, maybe that song was for Cato.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Right. Cato. All right. Oh, yes. The guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Same guy. Yeah. Good to know. But he when he lost, you know, when he finally he was defeated, you know, I knew he was screwed. He tried to kill himself and like cut his stomach, you know? And then his sons came in, though. And we're like, oh, no, you know, oh, dad, you don't kill yourself and help them put his innards back in and all that, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:04 stitched him back up and then they left. And he's and he's like, I don't, you know, I don't want to live and just tore his stomach open. Like all his insides ripped his insides out by himself. Pretty gruesome. Ancient history is so metal. I don't like it literally in just the beginning of this now and what we covered last episode.
Starting point is 00:04:28 A guy's had his gullet filled with gold. The whole the field of arms. I was just imagining. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, besides like the the regular ravaging of an empire. A village of people shopping off their arms. Yeah, for sure. It very much is apparent. They were. And like, you know, there's reasons why like they were the top,
Starting point is 00:04:54 you know, because like they just brood a lot. Like it's easy to like there's some saying, you know, where it's like one of the ancients said, Rome says like they conquered a place when they leave like a desert or something like that. Yeah, because they just destroy everything. But anyways. So so after Caesar got out with that, you know, he had to go to he had to go to Spain to finish some stuff or, you know, to finish some
Starting point is 00:05:23 sabbaticals and stuff. And that's when his grand-nephew, so his sister's grandson came or went to go visit him. His name was Octavian. Octavian was just like this kid, you know, like another kid that didn't really have much going on. You know, like just he was he was a patrician, but he wasn't anything,
Starting point is 00:05:43 you know, like he wasn't one of the higher up, like in the the families, you know, of the, you know, of Rome. So what he went there and started, you know, getting getting getting in good with Caesar and throughout, you know, throughout the time of him, like the few more years of Caesar was alive. He kind of seemed like Caesar, obviously, took a liking to the kid because he sent him off to Greece to get like schooled and everything. And then that's where he actually was when Caesar ended up getting killed,
Starting point is 00:06:18 was over in Greece, getting in school. He was over in Greece with his friends. One of his friends was named with a grippa. And I'm going to talk about him just a little bit because he's awesome. Like he's probably my favorite person in Rome ever, like the favorite, my most favorite, like he's just the most bad ass person you can think of. Seriously. What's so wait a minute, really quick?
Starting point is 00:06:39 So is this guy tiered up? Like he was never a emperor of Rome, correct? Who? Octavian, Agrippa? Yeah. No, Agrippa was just his friend. He was like, actually, he wasn't, I don't think he was a patrician. OK. He was a equite, I think. But like he was just like, he was one of his friends. He was in the school with him.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And, you know, they're like, they're like 18, 19 right now, you know? And he was just, he was an equite, I think. He he had like he was like a merchant's family or, you know, the equites are the they were they were the cavalry. Kind of like, you know, the rich, the richer, you know, upper middle class of Rome or whatever. But so when Caesar died, he got the news and he's like, well, crap, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:29 that's not good, you know, I better go back then. Like some people are like, I don't know if you should go or not, you know, like so well, he he was training at a camp at that time, right? At a military camp, but it was like a school slash military camp. And some of the soldiers there were like, you know, rise up, you know, but, you know, take us there to kill the senators that killed Caesar, you know, because like he was still the leader of the like the people loved Caesar. Like it was the senators that didn't really like him.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You know, the people thought he was great, you know, so. But he's like, ah, no, like he thought it wasn't the right thing to do. So he just went with himself and a couple of friends, you know, to Rome or made his way back. And are you guys familiar with like the geography of, you know, the Mediterranean, I guess. I just like on this, not really. No. So like, I honestly like can't even picture.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I always assume it's like adjacent to Italy, honestly. And I don't know how it is. Tramp adjacent to Italy, like you could like take a boat across like a hop, a skippin' a jump. Like think of it as like since we're in Michigan, think of it as like you're on to Canada. Right. Like you're to like take a boat across it. That's from the plumb over, right?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Something like that. I mean, it's longer than that, I think. Yeah, it's probably a sea or something like that. Yeah, it is a sea. It's like a it's a it's a it's. The Mediterranean. It's part of the Mediterranean. Anyway, so so yeah, he's going over there. He's pretty close by, but he's got to get over, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So as he's traveling back, he comes to come to find out that in Caesar's will, Caesar posthumously adopted Octavian. And not only that, but gave him like two thirds of his money. So just like out of the blue, this 18, 19 year old kid. Is just like just became like the most powerful man in Rome, essentially. Right. So they after he got there, after he landed, right? He he got the news that Caesar named him.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They pretty much like they are to his to his estate, essentially. And he he had to make a decision. You know, his his mom wrote him and his stepdad, his dad was dead. And they're like, just don't take the money. You know, it's going to be too crazy. Everything's too crazy right now. And like, I don't know what we're going to do if, you know, if like people try to kill us, you know, like you got all this money
Starting point is 00:10:11 and you're just a kid, but he's like, you know what, I'm doing it. I'm going to Rome and I'm just going to I'm just going to say script and I'm going there. So he made it later, Rome. And once he got there, he had to deal with a guy named Mark Antony. And that is that was like Caesar's right hand man, essentially. He he had a kind of a falling out with Caesar towards the end, because it seemed everybody kind of thought that he was going to be,
Starting point is 00:10:37 you know, the the man that got Caesar's estate. It wasn't going to be this kid that nobody really knew about, you know. So, yeah, anyways, he was kind of in control of all of Caesar's money because he was like, you know, the second in command. So Octavian went there at first and asked him was like, hey, can I please have my money? Mark Antony was kind of like, oh, you know, we'll get it to you soon. You know, maybe if you got to do this and we owe this to that and this to that.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And, you know, just kind of screw around. So this went on and it almost led to a war until finally because, like, in the end, like it wasn't like it wasn't Mark Antony versus Octavian. Like they like they needed to join forces to kill the people that killed Caesar. You know, like this whole point, like the whole point of Octavian, the kind of coming back was to get his revenge on the killers. So they go over to or back to Greece, back to Greece, where they these guys are hiding Brutus, you know, A2 Brutee and this couple.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I think his name was Libby Anus or something like that. And what a poor name choice. Yeah, there's some weird names. And oh, yeah, I have a this in it, unfortunately. But yeah, I don't know. There's cool though. I do like the naming of Rome, like a Greek more. But yeah, so anyways.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So yeah, they go over and there's this big battle, the Battle of Philippi. And we're like a grippa, you know, this guy that I was telling you guys about earlier. He ended up being like kind of the general for Augustus or Octavian. So at this time, there's not Augustus at this time. The thing is that Octavian, he's kind of, you know, he wasn't more, he wasn't, he was more of a lover, more, well, more of a strategic guy than like a more guy. He wasn't really a fighter. So he, he kind of stayed in the back because he had health problems all through his life
Starting point is 00:12:37 and happening at sick meant pivotal times, unfortunately. So he happened to be sick this time or at the time of the battle. So a grippa took command and, you know, him and Mark Antony, they won against Brutus and Labianus. So after that, you know, it's kind of like, oh, you know, everything's good. You know, we got rid of them and now we can split up the empire to make the second triumvirate, which I'm going to talk about this guy, Lepidus. And he was the third part of the second triumvirate.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Just like the Caesar's first triumvirate. You know, you guys remember that. Yeah. So that's where we learned about gold throat. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 The worst used bond villain ever. Lepidus got control of Africa. And then Mark Antony, he got control of like the eastern part. So that's like Greece and, you know, parts of Turkey and the Levant, you know, like Israel and Jordan and all that area. And most importantly, Egypt, where, you know, who's there? Cleopatra. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Do you know anything like other than just like her name and that she was from Egypt? Pretty sure she helped Austin Powers take over gold member. That was Beyonce. And who played Cleopatra Jones? Oh, was? No. Oh, no. Foxy Cleopatra.
Starting point is 00:14:13 She's a whole lot of women. I love that movie. But OK. Yeah. So Cleopatra, she was Leo Sand last time. She was like the the pharaoh of Egypt at the time. And she actually was Macedonian. She wasn't actually Egyptian.
Starting point is 00:14:33 She came from along the the Ptolemaic dynasty, which started all the way back with Alexander the Great, which we'll get to one of these days. I would really love to talk about Alexander the Great, because he's the the most crazy general ever. Like it's it's insane. But one of his generals ended up after Alexander died, went over to Egypt and, you know, because Alexander took that over and founded a dynasty there. And over like 300 years now she was the end of that dynasty eventually.
Starting point is 00:15:07 But so she, you know, was actually a Greek. But kind of was kind of cool because she like tried to like learn about the Egyptian culture and stuff, which a lot of the previous rulers did not do. So that's kind of great. Gentrification almost, right? I guess like just like the royalty and, you know, it was the rulers and the rule. Yeah, I was going to say, not really culturally like invading that country, but like it's really the monarch and the leadership or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:39 OK. Exactly. And actually, have you guys heard of the Rosetta Stone? Really, really, it's what we learned how to how to learn how to read hieroglyphs in, you know, the Egyptian hieroglyphs. It was from the Ptolemaic rulers was someone that wrote in Greek script. And yeah, it was like a notice like that was written in Greek and hieroglyphic. So they were able to translate it.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So that's how we could be. Thanks to the Ptolemaic dynasty, we're able to read hieroglyphs. So Mark Antony, he went over to Egypt and he kind of, you know, but I don't know. Some say he fell in love. Well, let's just say he hooked up with Cleopatra. You know, it might have been political. It might have been real love, you know, but he hooked up with Cleopatra.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Had had some twins kind of got, you know, you know, easternized. Like he stopped, you know, started practicing, like worshiping Isis and all that, which was a Greek God, not the terrorist organization or not a Greek God. Sorry, Egyptian. Good clarification. Yes. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, better clarify that. But then also, yeah, he just kind of like started going crazy. But, you know, and he was actually, he was married to an Octavian sister and this whole time. So like he's doing all this crap while he's married to Octavian sisters over in Rome still. Yeah. So over time, you know, like Octavian was gaining more and more power. He's sitting there in Rome, you know, where, wow, Mark Antony's way over in Egypt, being all crazy, doing a bunch of crazy stuff, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:13 and like not worshiping the gods and stuff like that, claiming like, he's going to like get gift, like make his kids heir to like the rule these lands, you know, you can't do that. Like he wasn't, he didn't have no right to say like his kids being able to rule this like land when he dies and stuff like that. Like they're still trying to like make, make believe that the Republic was real, you know, like they weren't saying it outright. Like, oh, we're controlling everything.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You know, they're like, oh yeah, you know, the Senate's in control right now. You know, the Senate, you guys are, you guys are the guys in charge, right? Right. So like that was not good. That looks bad, obviously. He did not look good doing that. After a while, Octavian is like, all right, we got to do something about this and started like saying like, you know, Cleopatra corrupted and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And then he like, eventually, you know, started a war. Like they kind of both did, you know, it wasn't just Octavian, but they started a war and there was this eventually it all ended up leading to this battle of Actium, which is over in Greece. And it was this huge sea battle. And like, man, like, I'd love to one day go into a detail with you guys, but it was just crazy. Like, and again, Agrippa played the key role. This time Octavian was around, but like he knew like Agrippa's the general. He was the guy that, you know, he was the, he was the man that did the fighting.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And then so like they just like, yep, they, they got this huge battle and they ended up winning or, you know, Octavian did and Mark Antony and Cleopatra ran back off to Egypt. And there they kind of like, like, if you know the story about, well, yeah, people that know the story about them, like they ended up like he killed himself or she pretended to kill himself, herself, then he killed himself because she did thought that she killed herself. And then, you know, she tried to play Octavian when he got there. Like, you know, try to try to, you know, get in his, you know, good graces didn't work. So then she like, apparently had herself bit by a snake and died for the poison.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, that was the end of her. So yeah, after a while, you know, he, he became Augustus. And I want to tell you some, some more because there's so much. The voice for God of War Ragnarok, Christopher Judge has a problem with the actor that they're seeking in Dave Batista. Was Batista the wrestler guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's who they want to use and what that's who they want to use as his guy.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I guess the original voice actor is throwing a fit about it. You just, did you say they were doing a movie or just another, another game? Oh, a series, a series. Yeah, an Amazon Prime series based on God of War Ragnarok. And like, yeah, I would be mad. Obviously, if I was the original voice actor and they wanted to do that, that would make me mad. Why? I mean, they'd be like, if, you know, you, I don't know, did a bunch of like movies yourself
Starting point is 00:20:29 or something and then like they're making a series. It kind of goes back to the Harry Potter thing. You know, it really does. It goes to the reboot thing. Christopher Judge is playing an older character. Or well, no, I guess, no, he's played, no, he's played the whole thing. Most of the whole decade of this, the series has been out, hasn't he? Who played Kratos in the original three?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Same guy. Let's go ahead and pull that up, Jamie. We don't have a Jamie yet. We can't afford a Jamie. Jamie. Uh, yeah, it looks like he's been pretty much the voice for, he's 58 years old. Okay. My take is this, I feel like there's, there's two big points to make here.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Number one is just because you've always played a role doesn't mean that you're entitled to always play that role unless you're always the one writing it or whatever. And even at that, like, although maybe you have a stake in it, I don't feel like it's even productive to the character to have it always played by one person. Like it, as an example, let's say you came out with a book series and it's as successful as Harry Potter, does the cast that does the audible or whatever the comparison is, does that cast need to replace that cast? I think it should be, if they, it should be offered to the original person because it is like,
Starting point is 00:21:57 I don't know, a character, a character to me, at least in my eyes, is tied to someone playing it. And I don't know, like it should be offered to them if they don't want it. Then that obviously, I'm not opposed to other people playing it. And I know it's probably different for you because you're like really into comics and stuff. So you're very used to it. I feel like a person that, you know, if an actor, whether it's a voice actor or whatever, if they are tied to a character, I'm like, that's, that's them in my mind. Like, you know, like Daniel Radcliffe, it's like, that is Harry Potter to me,
Starting point is 00:22:30 you know, which is why like the reboot would be hard for me to see that, you know, or like. But the thing is, is Christopher Judge doesn't play God of War in the games? Like we don't know what Christopher Judge looks like. We've only ever heard his voice. I know, but is the series going to be animated or live action? That's a good question. Because if it's animated, then yeah, it should be him. But if it's live action, then I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm going to give you, wait a minute. I'm going to give you why with my second reason. Narratively, it is not fair for me as the director or the writer or whoever creatively is going to have a stock in what anybody, not even just anybody, what everybody says in that television show to be constricted to, I have to use this actor. Now, I get your point real quick. I get that. I get live action.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Okay, there you go. Does this guy look like Batista or Butter? Right. Thank you. Michael Metz off the window. Batista, it's got to be Batista. Well, wait a minute. Even if this guy is Jacked, that's a perfect God of War.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But yeah, I would agree with that for sure. But even if this guy is Jacked, I feel like my argument is, okay, granted, and maybe this guy in their eyes doesn't have what it takes to cover what they feel like they want to cover in that show. I doubt that's what it is as much as, hey, this guy is Kratos. In our eyes, you can look at his role as Drax. You can look at his time in the wrestling ring. You can look at multiple different things and go, yeah, I think this is the guy we want to take.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That's not a discredit to this guy as a voice actor in a video game or as an actor overall in general, but I think it also makes you look really bad. Do I want you to come do a film for me if you're going to sit there and then feel like you have a say over my films, even if you're just a bit roll, or even the main character? A main character actor is obviously going to have a say in the film. But there's a lot of directors, too, who make it go like Quentin Tarantino. If you ad-lib, he's just going to cut it. He might even chastise and scream at you.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Which is kind of funny because that, to me, is kind of what it always seemed like what Vince McMahon would do. He always was the man in charge. You know what? If you were somebody trying to ask the ideas for you creatively, you might have had no chance in hell if anyone gets that reference to Vince McMahon's theme song. Recently, he's actually returned to the company. Which is crazy because I don't follow WNB each much.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Well, now the ads, the Google ads have infiltrated me because we talk about it all the time. Yeah, man, isn't he like a sexual assaulter? Like, didn't he get me, too? That's pretty bad. So Vince McMahon has had a litany of scandals came out that ousted him as using corporate funds and personal funds to require NDAs from people he had sexual activities with at the very least. And I know that the only way he was able to come back is because when they became a publicly
Starting point is 00:25:55 traded company in early 2000s, mid to late 90s, early 2000s, when it is. I don't know exactly where. They had graded stock, I believe is the term. So essentially, if I'm Vince McMahon or a member of Vince McMahon's family, I'm allowed to get that stock. Nobody else is. So is Triple H like really his son-in-law? He really is in real life.
Starting point is 00:26:23 In real life. IRL. All right. Because that was like the son-in-law. But yeah. But here's the Triple H. Hang on, hang on. Real quick, I got to throw this in.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Here's some options that I was looking at other than Dave Batista. Dominic Purcell, Jason Momoa or Triple H. I could, you know, the thing is, okay, one last thing on that point, I would say that like the guy, you know, he does not really look so much. Maybe I have to see him with a pointy beard and the face paint, but I'm sure. Does he need to necessarily have the pointy beard? I mean, the thing is, is you have to understand like they might look at this as like, okay, we're going to do God of War.
Starting point is 00:27:06 We're going to do it justice. He's going to have a sloped angled chin from the way that we shoot him, but we're going to shoot him like a real life warrior. And he's not necessarily going to look just like the video game all the time. I don't feel like that's an unfair artistic license to give. I'd be mad. Don't, you need, I hate when they do the artistic vices. Don't DBZ.
Starting point is 00:27:28 What does that mean? I'll see it. Like, I'd be mad. Oh, like adding things on it now. And now pick a little orange. Like they took away. Like, yeah, but I'm not saying I'm not saying you make Kratos look like David Batista with some charcoal paint on.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I'm saying like, maybe you don't. But Triple H is way too old right now. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I would agree with that. He's like 60 years old right now. Fair being on a set, which is being on a set and swinging some things around is way different than like to wrestle or whatever. But look, Arnold Arnold's like 70 and still doing movies.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Doing movies. But is he like doing live action fight scenes constantly and consistently? Does he? He don't need to. Neither would triple. He's shooting a gun. He's driving around. He's doing this.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He's doing that. That's way different than having a live action stunt double ridden fight every fifth episode and I don't think God of War is going to be like that. He's going to rip through temples constantly and consistently. There's probably a lot of CGI. More than likely, but even still, that's I mean, that's a trap injury. That's this or that. That can happen.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Is it likely to happen? Yeah, you're right. Probably not. But even still, like you don't necessarily want to take the risk on a guy like Triple H who had a cardiac event within the last year and a half, two years. See that we don't know. Minimum that length of time. It's probably been soon.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So I mean, speaking back to Vince, and you were telling me earlier, they were considering selling the company to a Saudi Arabian or like. So upon him coming back, there was a lot of controversy. There was a lot of discussion as to how he can even do it. And it is because of that stock. Now, many people have recognized and I would say it's more than fair to say that Vince McMahon came back to this company to sell it. Many people have believed that he was going to sell it within the last number of years.
Starting point is 00:29:35 The Saudis are in a Saudi investment firm is on the shortlist. But I feel the most interesting thing is even if it is just a complete and utter rumor, that Shad, I believe is how you pronounce his name and Tony Khan, the Tony Khans, the owner of AEW, the only company that's competed against Vince McMahon, like on any level and not really a comparative level at all. But still, the only competition they have on a big national platform right now that's really doing anything competitively against their other brands is AEW. And I don't know, and this is why we've discussed it at all, is what you as Tony
Starting point is 00:30:22 Khan do if you buy WWE? It just seems so. How would you dedicate? What WWE did. That's what, that's literally what WWE does. But that's different. It's way different. I would say it's way different when you have a super history of buying your competition.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So the two and three companies dying is way different than the company that is like literally the conglomerate of professional wrestling, pro wrestling Walmart. And I'm not saying that as a slider and insult, but it's the truth. The biggest, yeah, the biggest one, a publicly traded company for God's sakes goes under. And this guy who started a wrestling company because of a joint venture that Ring of Honor and New Japan Pro Wrestling did that was sponsored by like five really big wrestlers on anything but WWE made a professional wrestling company that's on TBS and TNT today. Like that's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And no matter what you think of AEW, that's admirable. I mean, the sale is one thing, right? What's crazy to me is that they let this guy, like they should have pushed them. They had no choice. They already did. They had an investigation. Yeah, it's just crazy. Yeah, well, but it's not crazy because what Vince McMahon did was he bought his dad's company,
Starting point is 00:31:45 which was professional wrestling was broken to something called Territories, which is like small segments of the country, usually encapsulating multiple states, but it could encapsulate like a couple counties. Realistically, it's based off television, talent, and geography at that time. Vince McMahon saw the advent of National Cable after buying that company and owning most of the Northeast and being a company that was away from the NWA, which was like the governing body of wrestling, but essentially it was a group of promoters that all worked together, traded around talent, etc.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Now, he then goes and buys out, if not the company wholesale, all the main attractions of the talent rosters or at times, time slots and television. Didn't that happen historically with sports, Frog? Yeah, I mean, they can. Yeah, but not in like an undercutting way like this was at the time. Like you have to think professional sports and sports leagues had existed. Corporate things say, I see what you're saying. I do what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Right. Like to come up and buy someone's TV from a television station while they're still on the air producing wrestling as a professional wrestling company, and then the next day they're not on television. They're the biggest. I mean, they are. They're the biggest because they did that to become the national platform wrestling company. And but that that really is encompassed of years like from 1983 forward to like 1986,
Starting point is 00:33:26 maybe, and like he bought out multiple different companies, if not just in talent, but in television. And was he was was he sexually assaulting women this whole like the whole time through that? I mean, there's very good probability that he paid off cops with a Halliburton full of money to get Superfly Jimmy Snuka off the murder route. And like it's crazy. Like because like WWE is like just riddled with like or not. It was wrestling in general. All of professional wrestling is like they're right.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah. Look, dude, we watched that show Dark Side of the 90s with about the World Wrestling Federation. And that was crazy. Really? Watch Dark Side of the Ring because there's three seasons of that. Yeah, that's what that's what I mean. And that is that is just a litany of stories. And there's so many stories they have to tell.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Like I remember hearing that Brian Pillman was going to be a two parter to start the latest season. There's probably a fourth coming out at this point. There's three seasons out. And I was not disappointed. But I honestly sat there and said, wow, yeah. I mean, Brian Pillman is a crazy guy and such an enigmatic figure to me. Like Pillman is one of the most important professional wrestlers because he literally inspired the late 90s bloom before it really even happened.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, never mind that. What wrestlers are going to be affected by this move? I don't think there's a professional wrestler that's not going to be affected by it. Because once WWE's changes come into effect, there's contracts that are coming up that are going to be so important to that that like you don't really know until it happens. Yeah, depending on who buys this company, professional wrestling will be changed no matter what I think. So are we still going to get a majority of our fights here in or matches here in the US?
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's a US based company. Yeah, absolutely. I think the one thing that you'll see change with that and you're already starting to see it somewhat with Triple H, I think Triple H will stay on as creative. I do think that'll happen no matter what. But it's almost like a day in a white selling out. But everybody else stays intact. Everybody that was there stays there.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Frog, did you have something else at the end? Do you want to like to share with us? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I picked up, I don't even collect Pokemon cards like that, but I picked up a couple booster packs. I got a sword and shield here. And that's a real radiance. I figured I'd just open these up, see what's inside of them with you guys.
Starting point is 00:36:11 There's a lot of newer Pokemon that I just, I mean, I play a lot of Pokemon Go and you know, I keep up to date somewhat, but. Honestly, Go does a decent job of putting newer stuff in. Like a lot of Jenny Pokemon are in Go. I got a shiny Percerker. Like the card, wait a minute, you mean the Pokemon in it? Is it shiny or you mean it's a foil card? Oh, foil, foil.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Okay, you guys are nice. And then a foil clappapus. Huh, I'd like a shiny or a foil blast or something. That'd be cool. Well, mule, mule is my favorite Pokemon ever. Watch this guy pulls a mule right now. That'd be so sick. No.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Oh, we got a foil petalillo. Petalillo? Is that like a evolution of like, it's oddish? Oh, I got a togapi. A togapi? Okay, I know that one. Yeah, that's dope. I like togapi.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yeah, that's cool, man. Then a bunch of other weird stuff, Krogana, Meowth. So it's all Pokemon? They don't have like any other like health cards or something like that? It's all just like different Pokemon? Well, I don't remember the card game. I mean, they come with an energy. Oh, yeah, energy.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Okay. No, thanks. That's cool. This one's got a... Like, yeah. Sounds like he got some good cards then. Yeah, I'll probably just give them to my kid though. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Well, all right. Well, it was a good episode, guys. It was good talking to you. Kyle, you want to take us out? And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we want to thank you so much for coming here and listening into our third episode. Tell your friends, let us know how you feel about it.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And we hope to see you again soon. Very soon here on the Brain Soda Podcast. Brain Soda.

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