Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 5 - In the Beginning, There Was Anime Cryptography

Episode Date: March 4, 2023

This week we'll be talking about anime movie offshoots, how the earth and life started, mathematician Clyde Shannon, and more!

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the one, the only Brain Soda podcast. I, as always, am your host, Kyle Moore, and I am joined today, as always, by my cohorts, Frog, and Brad. How's it going? Well, boys, today we have a very interesting set of subjects, I believe. Frog, why don't you tell us about your historical figure for this week? So I'd like to give a little piece about Mr. Claude Shannon, the father of information technology.

Very cool, man. That sounds very informative, you would say. And Brad, what do you have on topic for today? Well, I'm going to be talking about the beginning of it all. Well, I mean, not the beginning of it all, but the beginning of the earth and life as we know it. Well, with that, we're going to begin by talking about Japanese anime films. Now, not to wire it down way too much, because this is actually going to broaden out as a

subject as we go. But I recently was looking up something, and it brought me upon the first film that, I believe, Toei Animation produced for Dragon Ball Z. It's a film called The Dead Zone, and it rivals the first arc of Dragon Ball Z as a whole, right? If you remember, Goku's brother comes from outer space. You get the first appearance of Garlic Jr., who later reappears in the show, but I find it so weird that on our episode one, we were talking about how, like, if you were to change,

frog, I know it was a really big concern of yours. If you were to change certain elements when you're retelling a story, it would just completely baffle us and disgust us as fans. But theoretically, these could be films that, there are several that are like this, that drew in people and made them excited to watch a continuity that they were no longer going to be a part of as soon as they started watching the regular show or reading the book. Oh, yeah. How do you guys feel about that?

Yeah, I kind of realized, because I've seen a few of the Dragon Ball Z films, and I feel like they're almost independent from the series. And, I mean, while that's cool, I like to have it kind of, I mean, it's still in the universe and everything, but at least tie it somewhat into the show. You know what I mean? Well, so one of the things I've always kind of used in that situation is alternate timelines. And, like, that realistically has to be the answer once you have hour-long videos from people discussing how, like, this movie can't fit into continuity, that movie can't, this

movie can't. Obviously, it's its own canon, right? But, like, why don't we do that with more properties here? Like, why is there not a Harry Potter universe in which there hadn't already been a previous Voldemort war? Why isn't there one where, you know, we're selecting stories and retelling them, but maybe you don't have as many characters filling the same roles as they always do. Maybe there's slight variations in those stories and, like, does that really take away from

the stories as a whole? I think what they did with Fantastic Beasts, I think that's a beautiful approach to, you know, recreating and bringing in new characters as well as implementing older characters at different timelines. Exactly. So, like, I mean, Fantastic Beasts was fantastic, you know, like, no, it was a good, it was a good little series, and, but I do feel that, you know, when we're talking anime versus Harry Potter, it's kind of a different realm, you know, because Goku was still part of those,

you know, and, like, a lot of the stories, yes, there was a few, I'm not mistaken, that didn't involve the main characters, but they still revolved around that, and I'm fine with that. It's not rebooting, though, we're not talking about rebooting DBZ, unless they're coming out, well, unless we're talking about the movie, which we really shouldn't talk about, because I don't want to talk about it here. Oh, the live-action Dragon Ball Evolutions, no, yeah, it is like one of the worst films of all time.

But I'm not saying about, I'm not saying anything about this as a reboot, as much as I'm saying, okay, so let me give you a pitch of this. If they were going to, let's take it out of Harry Potter as well, I mean, that is what we were discussing in episode one, go check out that episode, but what I'm talking about in general is if you took any property, and I feel like comic books is probably where you see it the most, and you go, okay, I'm introducing people to this property through this story, here's something that can kind of catch you up to where these characters are distilled into a moment in time that we're going to make a 90-minute film, and, like,

we really don't do that here. What is wrong with expanding a universe? And then you don't necessarily have to watch 60 episodes of a cartoon, you don't necessarily have to read four books. I see what you're saying. But we have a bunch of, we have a society of people that are cool comic book movies, but like, realistically, it's so easy to look at any comic book and go, why is Too Faced like this and this story and that and that?

Different writer, nine times out of 10, different writer, different decade, maybe even a different character, presumably as the same villain. Let me wind this back really quick to my original question. If there was one movie that you could direct and it would be a reinterpretation of the introductory stories from a fictitious character universe, who would it be? What would it be? Oh, man. Gambit.

You would do a gambit movie? Oh, right off the bat. Yeah, that's, for real, that is a very good one. I dig that. Never got made. It's not like you're like, well, we got to kind of make it like the Christopher Reeves movie, which like, I'm totally for, don't let me knock Christopher Reeves franchise or films.

You know what I mean? Like, I love Superman one and two so much, but like. So is it just like comic book people or? No, I mean, that's definitely a good example, but like, no, what it is is, okay, if you could redo the first Harry Potter movie, but you got to do it differently, who would it be? You know what? I just, I think it would be a good one would be Van Helsing, if they could redo that.

I would like to see a Van Helsing. All right. Would you put some sort of a spin on it? What would you change about it? What would you make yours? And not much. I mean, maybe make the guy younger. I remember him being older, but if I'm not mistaken, that was like, what's his face?

Huge. Yeah. Hugh Jackman. Wasn't he young at the show? I don't know. Relative Hollywood young. Like now that. Wolverine.

I mean, the first X-Men. Was that Wolverine time? Yeah. He had probably done X-Men too, at least. I think it would be cool to hear a series of that, like it'd be so easy to do a series of that. Maybe they did do a series. I'm sure they did.

I think they have done a couple of things. It's probably failed. Well, I mean, but even beyond that, just because you've done a dozen different Superman movies doesn't mean you can't go like, if it were me, I've thought about this. If it were me, I would finally do a Superman movie where there's two big villains at play and they're not like Lex Luthor or Zod, honestly. I mean, those are the two that always happen. And I do like a Brainiac Bizarro movie or something like that.

Like, I think that would be cool. I think that would be cool. I think we're missing, I think we're missing a very key set of people here to do a remake on and that would be the Thundercats. A live action. Oh, get a load of that. I like that. Live action followed by coming out right after it updated He-Man, because I do believe they

do have one that's live action. Kevin, Kevin, that's the thing Kevin Smith did, isn't it? Didn't he like help write the animated He-Man on Netflix or whatever? I do believe so. I think it's called specifically Massive to the Universe. Did a space coast to coast to coast come back to? I don't know. But that honestly is a really good example of sitting there and going, yeah, there's

a whole previous history with this character that he's Jay Leno. You know what I mean? That is one of the funniest things they ever did, because I remember sitting there as a little kid being like, who's this weird superhero talk show guy? And then seeing the old Hand of Iberra cartoon and being like, wait, it's a real cartoon? Like what? Yeah, that struck me. It is so weird.

Imagine when you're a Harvey Burtman attorney at law and you're like seven years old and then learning this shit's real and be like, wait, what? Exactly. It was crazy. Another time though. So the universe obviously is a very big subject and I didn't really know where to start. But Frog said he was interested and he wanted to know a little bit more about like the beginning of the world and of life and all that.

I'm by no means an expert, but I can tell you some basic things about it and kind of tell you what science as a whole has came up with as the best explanation of how Earth was formed and how life started. I mean, we do not know for sure how either of those things happen, but we have some pretty good guesses with some solid evidence that points towards it. And we'll talk about that. What in your mind, when you guys think about the start, the beginning of the Earth, what do you see in your minds?

My jokes. The Big Bang. How exactly that plays out in my head, I don't know. I almost think it to be like a collision of atoms, right? Like rapidly expanding after and there it goes from there. Things begin to tumble and then on Earth, literally just kind of like Frog said, a couple amoebas form and mutate together. And then those mutations persist between that class and the next and the next.

And then eventually those things diversify out. Well, we're talking about that's life, right? Sure. But what about Earth? Like, how do you think Earth being the Earth, you know, our series of asteroids clashing into each other? I guess that's kind of like, there's more to it, but what happened? Sure.

Like, I mean, you know, to simplify things, right? The Big Bang happened, right? And then there's all these gases and everything and, you know, there's all this energy that created it and that turned into gases of hydrogen and helium and they started creating galaxies and those galaxies were made up of stars and all that and we get our star. Okay. I'm going to skip through all that stuff because I'm getting to the Earth. So the way, like the solar system, the way that started was kind of in an accretion disk.

It was a bunch of like gaseous, just a bunch of matter to, you know, floating around from like an exploding star before that. And this happened about 4.5 billion years ago, billion with a B. So this is like, just a billion years is hard to think of, you know, like when you think of a billion. It's hard to think of things 150 years ago almost, like for me, right? Like I could only imagine how far off the timeline I would be if you said, what's happening in exactly where you stand 150 years ago, I'd be so lost to place. What could or would be happening where I stand right now?

Exactly. So to say 400 or 4.5 billion years ago, it's like, it's just unimaginable almost, you know, like the amount of human existence, like we've been around for like, let's say, modern humans, let's say 400,000 years give or take, you know, and like that's like a blink of an eye, you know, like there's nothing compared to 4.5 billion years, but it's been so much, you know, so much has happened in that time, but it's insane to think about like that. My mind just goes crazy thinking about it.

But so 4.5 billion years ago anyways, a bunch of gas and rocks, you know, but all this stuff kind of like what fraud was saying, started collecting together, you know, when there's a mass, they, gravity forms, you know, it starts forming from that. And do we know exactly the like size or weight of mass that will start collecting and gathering and growing in space? Like where exactly does mass begin to get more gravity to start pulling things into it like a gravitational pull? I'm sure there is a, I mean, gravity works on like the smallest of mass, I think.

But I mean, but yes, to have like, there is a exact, you know, there is a finite number, but I don't know that. Exactly. No, I'm not asking for it off hand, but we know it, right? Yes, there, yes, I think there is like an exact mass where it starts like a creating, like asteroids and stuff, like it clears its path, essentially. That's one of the things that make it a planet and our definition of a planet. So anyway, so that's, that actually started happening, right?

Okay. So like things, you know, think of it like as like a big disk, right? But in the center, you got the sun where it's like the most mass and like, but there's other spots that just happen from the way stuff exploded and everything where like, there's more mass where like, let's say Jupiter, right? Jupiter is way bigger than us. All the gas giants, they're like, there was more out there and that, I guess there seems to be more of that.

I'm not an astronomer, so I'm, I'm, I'm going to keep this basic, but there's, it seems to be that there's more gas giants farther away from suns, at least from what I've seen that might be wrong again. It seems like there's more rocky planets closer to the sun and gas giants farther away from suns in general. I think about the closest you get to gas is Venus. No, well, Venus just has a thick atmosphere. That's what I'm saying.

But like a gas giant is a little bit different. Well, no, I'm saying just as gassy as you're going to get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Like, you know, it's filled with like sulfuric acid and stuff like that. It's crazy.

I understand. It's still got a core. Yep. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's definitely got land. I think Russia landed a probe on their, on the surface and it lasted for like 10 seconds or something.

They would. So this stuff started all, you know, combining, right? And eventually like we had like this ball of molten rock, right? So just this giant ball of molten lava essentially that started cooling down. And at some point during that time, it's theorized like the most, I mean, you know, there's evidence that supports it, but something hit the proto earth, right? The, you know, the earth before it was formed and that like because of that, that impact like a big chunk of the earth broke off and that is what the moon is, is like from an

impact. Really? Yeah. Son of a. I just find that to be the most wild thing. So can I ask you a question? Is there theoretical science at that point to say this is what proto earth would have done?

And in that point, how much superpowers do we have if we remain on proto earth? A lot? So if we didn't get hit by the mega asteroid? If we didn't lose the moon, yeah, man, yeah, I don't know, man. We never know. Maybe life would have never started. Maybe that's what gave us all the water. Maybe it was a water ball.

Maybe it was a giant water balloon or something. Wait, what? You never know. A real like, but there is like, you can't say it's not a giant water balloon. No, certainly not, but you never know, but is there something that could have transplanted water from colliding here? Or you're saying because it broke off that part of the moon, there's a possibility that that's why water formed here because of what?

Well, that is part of the theory. I don't know specifically that impact, but kind of, yeah, that's why I kind of brought that up was that we don't really know where water came from, you know, like it is kind of crazy, but we do think that part of it probably came from my comments and stuff, you know, like things like that and like just bombarding her. So after that probably, you know, once like things settle down, but there's a frozen space rock that comes here and I guess I should say a frozen hunk of ice that's hurtling towards earth proto earth crashes into it.

That's now like an ocean in that crater, right? Well, if it's all like, you know, lava, it would just like mold back to it. It would form the land because it would cool. You can look it up, look it up on YouTube, like animations of what it would be like, and it's like literally like it's like a third of the size of earth or maybe smaller, but like it's so big where it's not like a, not like the comets or the meteors you see. It's like, it's like taking a chunk off the earth, right? Because it's making the moon.

So it's like, it's literally like- What would be a cryo-clismic event is actually possibly what spawned us off because it breaks off. It was the beginning of the solar system. So like stuff was all crazy. There was nothing living at that time. This is like 4.5 to 4 billion years ago, right? So like, okay, so to kind of keep things moving.

After that, after all this stuff, you know, water eventually somehow came to the earth. So whether it was there before or whether like a bunch of comets or, you know, meteors brought water, a bunch of water came, right? And from that, around 3.7 billion years ago, the first signs of life came. How many billion? I know you're 3.7 billion years ago. So that's 3 billion 700 million years ago. Almost Elon's net worth.

The first signs. So that's not, you know, that doesn't mean that there wasn't life before then, but our first signs was that. Right. Yeah. That's a good point to put that. Yeah. So if you're a single celled organism, you can still see them in certain parts.

Like amoebas? No. Amoebas are way more advanced. They're like, they're later on. But yes. So they're just like bacteria, essentially, think of them, you know, very, very basic things. Not like, so, okay, to get to that, we don't know how life started.

Okay. We just like, we don't know how the earth exactly started. I mean, we have our best, we have our best guess, and it's a pretty good guess, I think, you know, it makes sense. And we've been able to show a lot of that things happen, but we don't know how life started. But from what I've learned, how life would have started or did start. Okay.

So you guys are familiar with DNA, right? Right. DNA is like, it's essentially four different proteins put together. Okay. Right. It's like four different like, or amino acids. Are they? Yeah.

They're, yeah. Okay. So they're molecules. Okay. They're just molecules. And these molecules can occur naturally. Like all of these molecules can. Right.

DNA is two strands. I'm sure you obviously, you guys know the helix, right? But there's also RNA. RNA is one stranded. There's one difference between it. It's one of the amino acids. We don't need to get into that. We'll keep it basic.

But anyways, yeah, it's one stranded, right? So that could turn into DNA though, you know, like if you switch out that strand and bind some certain things together, they'll become two stranded. Now RNA has been shown to be produced naturally. It's, you know, it's like through just like the swampy soup, you know, I guess is what like the, is the hypothesis of how life started was, you know, there's just, there's just this little puddle of water and it just happened to get like some, you know, there's like these different, these different molecules and like maybe, I don't know, a lightning bolt or something

give it a little extra electricity or something like that or lightning bolt hit a puddle away from it and gave it just enough electricity because it was connected or something like that. And that was able to make. Yes. Exactly. A bond between that and that, that created DNA, you know, or something like that. You know, like we don't know exactly.

So like RNA sitting in a pool because it's naturally occurring, it floats through the air, it lands in the water, the ground then absorbs electricity from a lightning bolt and then that ends up jolting the pool, collecting RNA or something like that almost. Essentially. Yeah. That'd be sick. So it sounds like a total superhero. That sounds like the flash, but it's just strands of.

Glorious. Acquiring amino acids gathering in a pool. It is. It's really like, it's crazy to think about like, but I know it and it sounds like wild and like that, like it's improbable, you know, but you gotta think it took what 1.8 billion years to write. Well, but, but I mean, it really doesn't sound that crazy when you're talking about two strands of naturally occurring amino acids gathering in a pool in some sort of way.

They find a way to bind together just like anything else, like clinging to the most sturdy thing nearby. Exactly. Why is that so crazy? Right. No, I think it makes a lot more sense than certain other ideas. Exactly. And because like from that, like so you get your DNA and then like that DNA, it's able

to build a chain and eventually that thing can like do stuff because like that has really different reactions to let it do things. It's insane. Like there's, yeah, it's too much to go into, but like the reactions of DNA allow other things to happen of RNA and DNA, like DNA being transcribed in RNA allows for like life to take place essentially. And it's just amazing that we can't like, we came from that, you know, from that, you know, came like more complex DNA that had like a coating around it, like a fat cell

essentially, you know, like fat around it. And then from that, you know, up to billions of years or not billions of years actually acts essentially, it was 800 million years ago before those multicellular organisms. So we're talking 200 or two billion years almost before two almost three before there was multicellular organisms. We're talking from one cell from bacteria, bacteria rule the world way longer than everything else. How much different things do you think ended up like if we're talking about multiple different

bacterias, millions probably bacterias across the surface of the earth, like how much stuff do you think had to kill off one another to survive like invasive species come and then this mold or whatever it's not bacteria starts to gather and ask to fight it off and things like that. Yeah. Like that's exactly how evolution works, right? Is right. I mean, I couldn't tell you the number, you know, but like, that's the thing, like that's

how things progress because like, you know, you need to defend against this thing. So you make this, but then like, you know, you need to make a new thing to get to this food, you know, like that's how like, there was like once there was multi cellular organisms, it was the race was on, right? So like after that, you had like to get it, like to make things short, like mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell, that was actually is thought of that used to be like a different cell and like a cell ate that cell, but kept it alive and use that as like a battery, essentially an energy source.

Right. Yeah. And then there's chloroplasts, which is, um, yeah, you know, which makes photosynthesis. Okay. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Like things like that. It's crazy that things like that happen and that allowed eukaryotes to happen.

That's what eukaryotic cells are, is things with things inside of it, essentially. It's just funny. I remember all this stuff in science class that you keep doing. Like I remember the mitochondria looking like a mandarin oranges and you'd have to like put all the things together inside the cell. Yep. Exactly. Yeah.

See, like that's the thing. Oh, you guys know about this, but it's not like, it's not something you think about every day. And it's not something I think about every day either. But like when you really come down to think about it, like when you just like talk about it in a general like conversation like this, it really blows your mind, you know, like when you're learning it in the classroom, like this is boring, you know, I know, yeah, the powerhouse of the cell, right?

When you think about it, like that's crazy that that, that's where we came from. Right. Like, and yeah, I don't know. I just love it. And that's why I, you know, went into biology. This is really cool. I love history. I'd like to talk about a little, little character by the name of Mr. Claude Shannon, which in

my eyes happens to be the Michael Jordan of inventors. He was an American mathematician and electrical engineer and a cryptographer, also known as the father of information theory born in 1916. And guess what? He was born right here in Petoskey, Michigan. Really? Oh yeah. That's awesome.

Believe it or not. So it's kind of funny. Well, he died and he didn't die too long ago, actually February 2001, Medford, Massachusetts. Some of his smaller accomplishments, I mean, he went to the National Inventors Hall of Fame. He's got the National Medal of Science. They even have an award named after him, the Claude Shannon Award for consistent, profound contributions to the information of theory, you know what I mean?

So as long as you're progressing in that field, you'll end up with his award. That's really cool. One thing that I think is very underrated about this cat is he never won a Nobel Prize despite 70 years ago laying out the foundation, essentially the infrastructure for the entire communication world and basically starting the movement for information technology, which in my eyes ends Morse code. Without him, you continue to use Morse code till somebody figures it out. You know what I mean?

He kind of jump started that. So like what did he do past like telephones then? Receiving and sending information. So he started these projects during World War I, I do believe. And he was finding out ways to get information from pretty much essentially getting enemy intel. Okay. Gathering it like intercepting it.

Yeah. Okay. Electronically. I mean without a phone, but not with the Morse code. Well, Morse code sent through wire, right? So there's a vibrational frequency coming off that if you can capture and own that frequency. I mean, that makes sense, right? He pretty much invented the future for receiving and sending information.

It's kind of funny. All right. Let me ask you the million dollar question. If you had to do a Claude Shannon film, who do you cast? If I had to do a Claude Shannon film, Jean Claude Van Damme. No, because no, what did he kind of look like? Like something out of the monsters? I don't know what this guy looks like.

So you look like a weird guy or maybe it's just because most of the photos are black and white of them. Yeah. Oh man. I would say Alan Rickman back in the day. Yeah. I can see that. Man, mathematicians though, like I just, I liked math, but you know, I went, I, I said,

I took calculus. I guess I didn't go far. If you got like math can go way farther than calculus, but, uh, man, it's just crazy to think that like, all right, I'm just going to do nothing. I'm just going to mess with numbers. That's going to be my job. You know, I just, I can't do that. I stay away.

That's why, again, why went into biology and not like, let's say physics. If Emmett Brown could handle a comb over, I might slide him in there with darker hair. I could see Tommy Lee Jones paying him on his deathbed for sure from this picture right here. Yeah. He does look a little monsters like I can see what you're saying, right? But I think that's the black and white. He's in an episode of darker shadows.

It's them. It's them dark eyes. The dark eyes looking like he's up at 3am. Go to his Wikipedia and just look at his awards. The dude is insane. We don't have enough time to even really get in the clutch. That's so cool. He was born in Michigan too.

Oh yeah. Potoskey, Michigan. So check this out. He actually, he actually has six statues of himself, one being right here in Michigan at U of M. Interesting. Oh yeah. I would love to go see that.

And actually one of his heroes is somebody I'd like to talk about in the future, Mr. Thomas Edison. I think you guys know who that is. I would love to talk about Thomas Edison and you know, I have a very love hate relationship with him because yes, but we can talk about that in a future episode. Actually I'd love if you do a little research on him. He was a hero of Claude Shannon's and Claude Shannon was a very remarkable man. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I'm not, Thomas Edison did a lot of good things, but he also, you know, yeah. Who do you like better, Thomas Edison or Benjamin Franklin hands down? Yeah, I was going to say Benjamin Franklin. But he was, he was a ladies man. He did some crazy stuff, but overall. Is it true that he could have been a murderer? Ah.

Do you take any weight? I don't know. We might have to talk about that also in a future episode. Okay. Okay. Because I just stumbled upon his former England home was found to have like trapped bodies. Oh yeah. No.

I think he was more of a, he was more of a, like, he was a weirdo, played with bodies. Well, back then you, like that was the only way you could study an enemy was like digging up dead bodies and stuff like that. No. I mean, totally. I just, I didn't think about that. I was just like, wait, he's a murderer. I don't think he murdered people.

Look at the generation and that we're in right now. Like that happens all the time. Like, Hey, remember Kramer? He's a racist. Remember this guy? He did this. Like, you know what I mean? Like to grow up, not grow up to exist post Bill Cosby has to be this strange, strange anomaly

at a time where like, it's all the sudden reveal that so many of your heroes are absolutely despicable. Oh yeah. For sure. You had to throw Cosmo in there, didn't you? No. Like Pokemon was like our childhood, right? And it still is.

I just feel like, exactly. So like right now, frog, you have a couple of booster packs. You guys childhood ended? Should I crack them open? Yeah. Let's crack them open and see what you got. But you already had some foils, right? So they came like, hopefully a blue eyes blue dragon.

Hopefully you don't have any Nazi insignias on these cards. Was it a booster pack? It was a, it had like two in them. You had some foils before. It had like three foils and it had like two. Holy shit. I got a tornado. Nice.

Oh my goodness. I only know the original like 150. It's a legendary. Unfortunately guys, I'm sorry. Yeah. It's a legendary from X and Y, right? Yeah. The weather trio or whatever.

Nice. I got a Porygon in there too. Nice. Look at that Porygon. Porygon. He's got three or two more involved forms. I didn't know of. Porygon?

Oh yeah. There's Porygon. There's Porygon Z and there's Porygon two. Okay. Obviously Z is the third one or whatever, but yeah. I want to say Z came in in fourth gen, right? That's Diamond and Pearl. Okay.

I got a smirgle. A smirgle? Smirgle? I've heard that one. You should know him. That's a gen two poaching. Yep. Yep.

I've heard a smirgle. I got a mill metal. I don't know that one though. Oh nice. Mill metal is another legendary. Man, I see a really good picture of like all of them. But we're here for gents and then we guys say that look up pictures. Tritoninator.

Playing games. I want to do that. Someday. Someday I will. I never did. I never did. I really can't talk to you there. Yep.

Damn. I got a lot of cool things actually. Well, I mean playing Pokemon Go, I mean that's really how I know all. That's true. That is very true. I mean Grubbin, Rotom, Smirgle, Karbana, Clamperl. A scooch. All right guys.

Kyle, you want to take us out? Kyle, you wanna take us out? I do. It was nice talking to you today. It was great being with you guys as always. Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to thank you for joining us here for the Brain Soda Podcast, for Brad, for Frog, I am Kyle Moore,

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