Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 117 - Ryan Hamilton

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Hey It's also a show Hey Everybody Welcome to another edition of Breaking Bread with Tom Papa I'm Tom Papa Oh, we have a good one for you today
Starting point is 00:01:45 My good pal The hilarious Ryan Hamilton I got to sit down with him When I was back in New York In the beginning of my Three Week run around the country and we met up at the comedy seller, at the podcast studio, and had a great time. I'm really excited for you to hear this.
Starting point is 00:02:06 This is not only is a dear friend and super funny, but he also has an amazing story to tell and about a little thing that happened to him along the comedy way last December, January. I'm not going to ruin it. I'm going to let you figure. it out. I'm going to let you listen. Just know that there is a deep, great story that Ryan will share with you. I just got back. I literally just got off a plane. I was in New York and New Jersey. As I said, I was taking some time trying to sneak off to the beach, and I did my sister's wedding, which was really great. And then I went to another wedding of a good friend of ours. And that was
Starting point is 00:02:54 really fun and we got to spend a lot of good time at the Jersey Shore. I continued my hot dog rage. I think I'm up to 16 for the summer, which is a pretty good number and we're not even there yet. So I'm on a good pace, I would say, strong and mighty pace in the hot dog world. I hope you're doing well. I was just sitting on this plane for six hours, all smooth, all nice, all good. I guess my advice would be to you, don't eat fish on a plane. Don't eat fish on a plane. Even if you're sitting in the fancy seats, as I was.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Even if you are presented with it in a nice little menu booklet, which I was. Even if it says nice writing, sea bass of some sort that is with, well phrased and seems to be enticing, don't go for it. Just remember, you're still on a plane. And I'd say don't eat the fish on the plane. That's my advice. I don't feel that great. It's not, we're not in emergency levels. I just ran in and made sure that I got this nice, this nice podcast started and all sewn up.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I don't know what the future holds. And by the future, I mean the near future. But I would say whether or not this turns into a real event or not, I can say with confidence, don't eat the fish on the plane. The only other bad move you can make is eating tuna fish at the airport. That's also not a great move. Keep the fish out of the airports. I could have gone short, rib. I know. But again, I'm not at a barbecue joint, and I knew enough, like short rib, that's not going to be great. Let me get the fish, says I. It's been a long vacation.
Starting point is 00:04:59 All right, enough of this. I have a great interview for you with the great Ryan Hamilton. He's a dear friend. We had a great time doing a show in San Diego, and we co-headline a show together. We just felt like it would be really fun to both stretch out and do long sets with each other and combine our audiences. And it was a great night and a lot of fun, and we're going to do a lot more of them. If you haven't checked out as Netflix special, you definitely should. You should definitely know who Ryan Hamilton is.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's a no-brainer. It's one of the best working comedians out there, super funny. And this conversation is great, and it means a lot to me because it, like I said, a dear friend, and what he went through is no small thing. So let's get right to it. Enjoy my conversation with the great Ryan Hamilton. Ryan, it's so good to see you. It's good to see you too, Tom.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I mean, I hope I'm getting enough credit for coming all the way to New York to do this with you. I would like to think that you came all the way to New York to do this with me, but I just don't believe that. It is the truth. Is it? Well, I had some other things to do, but I tied it into it. Okay. Well, even that makes me feel good. Right?
Starting point is 00:06:15 I was tied into something that Tom had. to do. Makes me feel good. And I, of course, because I'm on the road, wasn't able to bake you bread. Right. Of course. Which I apologize for it, but I found this beautiful French bakery. I've been eating it nervously. Yeah. So I've gotten you a plain croissant and then a blueberry croissant, which is the one you seem to have attacked because it looks like a crime scene. Yeah. And then a almond chocolate croissant. Wow. Yeah. And I haven't shared any of this. Would you like some?
Starting point is 00:06:50 No, I was wondering when you were going to ask that. I didn't know why there were three on my side, just sitting here. They're all for you. I thought it was some sort of test or something. Like, which one is he going to eat? What does it mean? We're going to really dissect this. We're going to analyze it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Okay, so you went for the blueberry croissant. How was it? I have to say, I've never had a blueberry croissant. I had neither. It's really good. I love blueberries. I just got lucky. I didn't know what was in there. I thought it was maybe chocolate. Yeah, that's what I thought too. And then blueberries squirt it out. I would give you some, but it's not appealing. No, I think you just, you know, as we go through the, I know you're not a huge fan of podcasts.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You, you're a very private fellow. You don't like, you don't like the podcasts that dig deep and start probing your life and your choices and stuff like that. I want to leave right now. So you might get nervous and need all three croissants by the end of it. So we even seen each other since San Diego. Yeah, I guess so. That was fun. That was so fun. Ryan and I went to San Diego to Humphreys.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Which, by the way, I thought we were just doing like this strange place that no one ever heard of. And it turns out to be a pretty historic venue. I didn't realize that either. Yeah. The photos were like all sorts of people. George Carlin, was there a bunch? 15 times, which I was thinking later on, that means 15 years. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:24 They're not counting every time he went up on stage. He went and would do those shows. And it was this outdoor venue. It's called Humphreys, and it's right next to this marina. It looks like everything that you would, if you were to design a space and make it wrong for comedy, you'd be like, all right, let's put it outside. let's have a fountain next to it. Let's have boats with people on kayaks on the other side,
Starting point is 00:08:49 a hotel room at the back wall where people could just open up their hotel room doors and wander out onto the balcony. And yet, perfect. Perfect. It was so fun. Such a special night. It felt special. It did.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It really did. And I think performance-wise, I think it's because the sound system is so great. Yeah, it must be because you can't tell that you're outside when you're on stage. Yeah. And they're kind of like packed in. It was like a thousand people, but it was all like packed in. So you felt them.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It wasn't like those outdoor shows where it just kind of goes and you never, you never connect with them. This one you really did. Yeah. It was really great. The only hitch, I think, and we should do more shows together because I would love that. Our audiences definitely sync up.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. The host who was great, I forget his name. Me too. He was great. He was great. Yeah. I'll look up his name. Will.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Willie Thornton? No. Hal Linden. How? He was so good. I'm going to look him up. Yeah. I don't think there's nothing wrong with using your phone when you have to.
Starting point is 00:10:09 No. He was great. But the only thing, and we didn't, And this was our fault. We'll blame our agent. It was his fault. They made it seem like I was the headliner, which is a tricky thing when we have two headlines for the show.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, yeah. When he was like, and now the man you've come to see after you did your set. Yeah. And you know what I mean? It's like, how do you make it equal billing? One of us has to go first. One of us has to go last. It should be, the opener should be told.
Starting point is 00:10:40 When you go out there, your set, you say, holy cow, we have two headliners. We flipped a coin and this guy's going first. Really? Like, it needs that kind of a thing. I guess so. Yeah, I think, I don't think, I think the audience just had a great time
Starting point is 00:10:54 and that's the point. Look, I love that they, he leaned into it and made it seem like I was the most special one. But. Well, he, in his defense, it's like, how often do you have this co-headlining thing?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like, it's very rare that you're hosting a show. Mal Hall. We got like half of it twice or something. Yeah, we said Hal Lyndon and Monty Hall. We had a lot of elves and our guesses. Mal Hall, who's very funny. He was great. And, yeah, the audience loved him.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And he opens for like Joe Coy. Yeah. And I don't remember. Angela Johnson. Oh, right. He tours with her. Okay. Real solid act.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And then we got to go to the. this great dinner afterwards. So we had this great that you killed. I went too long. I did too much time. I lost my way. You get to do that when you're last. Yeah, you get to do that when you're the big time headliner. Right. And your mom was there, which was so great. She, so when we have this great dinner, which was so perfect. It was the perfect place in one of those banquet, one of those booths that's like a half moon. We all get to like go in like old school. There was a band playing in the background, and this was off property, and we were there
Starting point is 00:12:14 with my wife and your mother and our agent Doug and his wife, and such great conversation, and great food, it was so perfect. It really felt like, and this is the credit for Doug
Starting point is 00:12:30 was that he orchestrated it and put the whole thing together. He nailed it. Doug is our agent now, our mutual agent. Our mutual agent. Yes. Yeah. Even though he didn't tell mouth to say that we're equal. Well. Not that it was a big deal, but I just think that performance-wise, it was just a thing I thought about the next day. Yeah. It was great. I loved the dinner. I loved having my mom there.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I loved my mom being able to meet you guys. She's very funny. Yeah. My mom's great. Yeah. There was a funny thing that happened. I didn't see it, but, you know, we didn't meet people after the show or anything, but I pointed out my mom in the audience during the show. During the show, yeah. So everybody knew who she was. Because I had jokes mentioning, you know, her and this whole thing I went through recently. And a bunch of people took pictures with my mom after the show.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Oh, really? So they found my mom. That's great. And we're taking pictures. Like, if we don't get to take pictures with Ryan, and my mom's so sweet, I'm sure she's just like, okay, I'll take a picture. She was a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah. What'd you do the next morning? What did we do the next morning? I just took off. My mom stayed in California. I have a bunch of family and friends there. Right. We were also at the show.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So my mom spent some time there. Oh, okay. That's good. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah, because we were literally in the room right next door. I know. But it felt awkward to, like, knock at 10 in the morning and be like, I'm leaving now. The rooms were funny.
Starting point is 00:14:04 The rooms were like, you walked out on the bed. balcony and you're in the venue. I'd never felt. You open the blinds and to these sliding glass doors and the sound guy was there. Setting up and drinking beer. My wife was like, shut that. I'm changing. I'm like, there's the sound guy. The most important part of the show. The San Diego, you got a little slice of the San Diego lifestyle though. Like the, I'm always like, I don't really understand that. that town too well. I never do either. It's got, you know, it's got a skyscrapery, a mini skyscrapery downtown with the big streets and the hard sidewalks. Yeah. But then it's got boats everywhere. Yeah. Then it's got these beaches and little Mission Bay and all these different like vacation spots.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And the air is beautiful. The weather is perfect. It's like you just like God just set the thermostat. at it 72 and left it. And then, but it's like this, you know, it's like a spread out, like, you know, it's hard for me to navigate the city with the beach with the, you know what I mean? It's hard to define it.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Everybody thinks it's just like a beach town, but there's a lot more going on. Yeah. It's also like a college party town. Right. There's like a big bar scene and stuff. Yes, that annoying downtown bar. The downtown part that seems like it would be quaint, and it's like you go down there and you're like, oh, I have to leave immediately. Why does every city have those, right?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like Austin has it. Yeah. Nashville has it. New Orleans, of course, has it. Every place has. I guess so. They're dumb street. They're dumb street filled with throw up.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's true. And I guess when you're that age, it's kind of fun to do. But the thing about San Diego that I came away with was that it, regardless of if you're hustling and working in the hard business part of it or you're kayaking around or you're surfing, everybody does have that kind of chill surfer vibe. Right. Even, you know, even the dialed in hustlers, everybody's still, the sunshine and them just knowing what a great place they live in. everybody's just chill. It is. Yeah. It's a different vibe than L.A. even, right?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, L.A. has kind of got that, but this is like two hours away and feels like a world away mentally. Completely. I think the closest you get in L.A. is like Malibu. Right. Even like Santa Monica is still like you're feeling the traffic in the city and the anger. But in San Diego, like, you could make a left-hand turn in under an hour.
Starting point is 00:17:04 That's a great point. That's a great lifestyle. You can make left-hand turns, or you can make left-hand turns. You're in a nice, comfortable town. Anytime I'm on the road, I was in Vermont, and I'm like, I was making left turns all day. I was like, what a great place to live. Just the freedom to turn left. Yeah, like, knowing that going to CBS and back is not going to, like, take years off my life.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I know. So here's a question for you, though, in the constant analyzing these places. You know, I'm a New Yorker. Yeah. I come from here. I lived here forever. I grew up across the river. And whenever I toy with the idea of coming back, you know, my kids are going to be moving on.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And, you know, we're going to be back to being able to do whatever we want. And while I'll maintain L.A. for sure, because it's our family home and stuff, we always toy with coming back because we love New York so much. When you pop out of it and you did like during the pandemic and stuff, and then I come back. The thing that I notice most is that people are a little angry. In New York? Yeah, like the New York metropolitan area.
Starting point is 00:18:23 People are just a little pissed off. Do you see that? Yeah, I think it's a little worse than it used to. to be maybe, in my opinion. Oh, maybe. You mean after the punch in the nose from the pandemic? Yeah. I think it's changed things just a little bit. Turned the dial up just a bit. Yeah. And probably the pandemic probably turned up whatever issues any place had. Right. Like in LA, like people are driving like it's Mad Max. Right. They're like freak, which was always bad and now it's like worse. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And, yeah, and the country was always violent, and now there's a lot of shootings. And in New York, everyone, this area, people were just a little cranky, and now they're really cranky. Right. Yeah. Just whatever you are, just amplified it a bit. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 The negative stuff we got. But, yeah, I notice it a bit. Like, I don't take the subway at night anymore late at night. Right. And I used to not think about it. Yeah, I know. We live, when we were first knocking around here, it really was a golden age.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Because when I first started coming in, it was closer to what this is. Yeah. Like, you couldn't leave, when I was moving into my apartment, you wouldn't leave your car with all your stuff in it and walk the boxes into the house and into the apartment and back. Right. You would pick up a box, walk it in, and by the time you came back, everything in your car would be stolen. Like, that's the way Manhattan was. Like, that was New York.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. It was rough. Right. And now it's back to that. And you didn't take the subway. And then we went through this golden age where young girls were just jumping on the subway and leaving the village at three in the morning. Not even thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It was just like this very safe kind of thing. All right, let me ask you this. This is a question that, as you're part of the mayor's office, when you walk around, one of the big things that you see is mentally ill people with no clothes on. in doorways, congregating and outside the subways, in the parks. Like, you see a lot of people that are really reeling.
Starting point is 00:20:38 What is, what is changed? Like, where did they, what did they shut down? Did they shut down facilities? Did they stop helping people? Like, why are they out there helpless all over the place? I don't know. I don't really know what happened.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I was gone for most of this, but I think there was a period where, you know, there weren't a lot of people around and a lot of those people depended on people being around and so they became more desperate and more dire position than they've ever been before and that pushed them to do other things but I don't know why it feels that way but it does
Starting point is 00:21:16 it does. It does. It almost looks like and I really am searching for the answer while I'm here which is why I wanted you to come in from the mayor's office but it really is like it looks like there was a big facility that took care of mentally ill people and that it closed its doors and sent everyone out on the street. Like it has that feeling. Like there has to be something in the system that was there before that is no longer.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But I would say, but I feel like this is happening all over the country. I don't think it's unique to New York. Everywhere I go, it seems like it's up, like San Francisco seems. a little bit. Yes, that's true. Worse than it used to be. Tent cities. Yeah, it seems like even L.A. seems a little, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Maybe the city's budgets got messed up and they just had to stop certain services? I don't know. Nicole, do you know? I have no idea. All right. I saw a guy get pushed onto the subway tracks, I think. You did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 What do you mean you think? Because you turned away and ran? Well, there was a guy that was like, he looked like he was from out of town or something. something. He was with his wife and he was in this other guy who, you know, was on something. He wasn't being super threatening or anything, but it was just like a guy. Just keep your distance. Yeah. And he kind of got between the subway tracks and this guy, and this guy just didn't give him any distance. The guy didn't, the guy from out of town didn't jack off.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. And he just, it was kind of watching this other corner of my eye while I'm waiting for the train. And I'm just thinking, just move. Just move. And I can see this kind of escalating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like neither of them were going to give up ground. Uh-huh. And I think he just kind of nudged him. And also, I think maybe the guy wanted to be nut. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Right. Exactly what happened. But I'm pretty sure he got pushed. And then... Which guy got pushed? The guy who was kind of crazy. Uh-huh. But I think...
Starting point is 00:23:17 Oh, he got pushed by the guy? Yeah. And he fell into the subway tracks. And he was just down there. And then I could see the guy. And then it was a scene. like 30 people around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And the guy was nervous, I saw. Uh-huh. And then... The guy who pushed him was nervous. Yeah. Yeah. But he stayed, and then everybody's like getting him out. And there's some MTA people up the tracks.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And people are like, get him out, help them out. And they came like 20 feet away and they just turned and walked away. No. I don't know if it was it, like they have a policy or what. So I was like, well, if there's MTA people in the tracks, there's not a train coming, maybe. Yeah. And I'd come from the other side of the tracks. So there was like 10 people between me and...
Starting point is 00:23:57 But they pulled him out, and he had a gash in his head, and his blood coming down his face. And everybody left, like, gone. Right. As soon as he was on the platform, everybody. The guy, I have no idea where it was like, whoa. And while he was in the track, there was, like, phones came out, like four phones.
Starting point is 00:24:17 These kids were, like, video. Right. And this guy had four bongo drums strapped. It was such a New York moment. He had four bongo drums strapped around his body. And he's getting angry. Why are you videoing? Why don't you help?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Why don't you put your phones away and help? And one of the kids just turned out of them and just goes, why don't you help? He goes, I got these bongo drums. I was like, what is happening? This is crazy. I got my bongos, man. I can't put the bongos down.
Starting point is 00:24:49 One of the first rule you have with bongos, don't put them down on the subway. And then everybody left. It was just me and him. Just me and him, and I'm like, You win the crazy guy? Yeah. And I go, and he's kind of sitting up and walking towards me.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I go, I'm going to call 911. He goes, don't, don't call him. I don't want him here. I go, you have a massive cut on your head. I don't know if you know. We need to get it taken care of. He's like, don't call him. I want some money.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And so I'm like on the phone walking away from him. I want some money? Yeah. Oh, God. And I go, if you stay here, I will give you some money if you just wait until the cops show up. Oh, smart. And then the cops were fast And they were like this guy
Starting point is 00:25:30 I had to tase this guy three days ago Really? Yeah I think he got pushed And he's like do you know And I was like He didn't get pushed And I was like really Okay
Starting point is 00:25:41 Anyway it was kind of crazy And then That meant if you know Yeah If you say that Then I'm gonna have to write it up Oh I don't know what it meant I think he just thought
Starting point is 00:25:51 I've dealt with this guy before And And I I don't, you know, and he's like... Well, maybe, I mean, because you didn't see him push him. Yeah, yeah. And a guy from out of town, that's a pretty aggressive move. Yeah, I guess I shouldn't, like, assume, but I...
Starting point is 00:26:07 He might have jumped it. I don't know. I should amend the story, but... You should get a taser. I think that's the moral of the story. Or just take Uber. That's... Anyway, yeah. But that's happening a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah. Yeah. Jeez, Louise. Anyway, I just... went off on a thing. But after that, I stopped taking the subway at night. But you know, what you said earlier, that's like the key that people don't understand when you, like, you knew, you knew as a New Yorker, give that guy space.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. Don't stay there. Don't stand your ground. Walk away. Right. Take your wife and go. You know, that kind of thing is like, all those things are important. My wife's friend was walking up the street in Manhattan a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And they're walking and they see a mentally ill guy coming the other way. And the one white woman said with her kid and is like, maybe we should cross the street. And the New Yorker was like, no, no, no, you know, it's fine. You know, we do this all the time. And decide to just pass him as, you know, he's coming the opposite direction. And the guy walks up and just punch him. the woman in the face. Oh my. Yeah. So like the, and I get, I totally get what that New Yorker was saying. Right. We're fine. Yeah. That was the modus operandi. It was right. We're fine. Right. This, we see this stuff. We know how to manage it. Right. The rules aren't the same. Right. They've changed slightly. Right. Right. And you've got to treat it differently. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah. It's upsetting for sure. Yeah. But I think now that you're elected, I think that we're putting our faith in you and hoping that you're going to restore everything. Well, we're looking forward to having you back in the city, Tom. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. It's like, you know, I don't know. It's not like real estate's gone down. You know, I poke around. It's still like to still participate in this madness. It's crazy. It's so much crazier than any other place you could do.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I know. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. I don't know. I mean, I got into my place and it's just sat there and I wasn't even there for like two years, basically. And then I was home after this accident for a while.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It's like I'm just feeling like I'm getting back into my New York life. Yeah, you do. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Your set was so funny. I mean, I knew that you had stuff from. the accident.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Oh. But I didn't realize how, like, I even saw more of it when we worked together. Oh, right. Yeah. And that you can kind of, like, come back to it back and forth is so funny. Oh, thanks. Ryan was hit by a box. Yeah, I guess we should just say.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's like a thing I have to talk about. I feel like every conversation, it's like kind of hanging over it. Well, I wouldn't bring it up if you didn't talk about so funny in your act. Oh, thanks. People are going to see all the details. I don't want to go into the details of it. Right. But just as a headline, Ryan has.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Hamilton was walking across the street and got hit by a bus. Yeah. And it interrupted part of your year last year. Oh, man. Yeah. Where are we? It's July? Six months.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. So six months ago. Mm-hmm. A little over six months. Which, by the way, for being hit by a bus, that you're back and doing shows and all that stuff, like, that's pretty remarkable. It seems like a crazy. Yeah, I can't even.
Starting point is 00:29:52 This last year has just been, year and a half has been really wild. I mean, it has been for everybody, but it just feels really crazy. No, but I mean, it's been crazy for everybody in this macro sense, but then you had big events within that. Right. You know, people in your family passing and then having them say that I was the headliner and then being hit by the bus. Like, these things are big. They're all very traumatic. There is a thing, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:30:26 This is like the screwed up part of life. Like you can manage and you can do stuff and you can overcome things. And then every once in a while, the tsunami hits you. Yes. And those things are bigger than we are. Yes. And you just have to kind of ride it out. It's like being a kid knocked around in the surf.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yes. And you're just blah, blah, blah, blah. You're in a dishwasher. And you're like, oh, wait, I'm still maintaining. I'm still getting up. But I don't know where the sky is and where the ground is and what's happening right now. Right. It's some of those moments, which we all have to go through.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Those are the big ones. It's a good analogy. Yeah. I mean, I say in the act, I say, you know, everybody said you're so lucky, you're so lucky. And I really had to wrestle with that. I just didn't feel lucky. Yeah. I wasn't sitting in front of that bus going, I'm on a hot streak.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's what I say, you know. Killing it, right? That wasn't on my vision board. I don't know who gets hit by a bus and it's like, you know, I'm a lucky devil. but look at me as you're flying through the air look at me I'm king of the world but that's really something I had to wrestle with because it was like well you saw me that at that time I saw you a couple weeks after yeah and I went to I went to find you in Santa Monica yeah because I was talking to you all the way up to it mm-hmm because you were stuck in a hotel in yeah in L.A. because of a positive
Starting point is 00:31:51 COVID test right and I lived there and I kept trying to trying to get you to come over for Christmas. And I was just like, let's hang out. And you're like, I'm not allowed to. And I'm like, COVID-Schmovid. And then all of a sudden, went silent. And I was like, what happened? Where are you?
Starting point is 00:32:05 And then I found out. And then I came down. What was crazy is that you were out of the hospital quick. I was there five days. Just five days. Yeah, well, they wanted me out fast. It was like Omicron was going on. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And the hospital was full. Did you call it Omicron? What is it? Omnicron? I think it's omicron. Omicron. Omicron. Omicron.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Omicron. I don't think it's Omicron. Um, it's spelled... Omicron sounds like a, like something fun, right? A little bit. It kind of sounds like a transformer or something. Yeah. Look out for Amicron.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Isn't it spelled OM-N? O-M-I. O-M-N-I, right? No. Just O-M-I? Omicron. Oh, my-Kron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Oh, I've been saying... And that was the first one. Now there's, that was the first one. Now we're on the seven. one. Yeah. Now it's like R2D2, Omicron.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Right. Yeah. I've been saying it wrong for like a year. So they wanted to get you out of there. They needed the space. They needed you not to get sick. That's what it felt like.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. But they also don't want you to stay in the hospital longer than you need to. It's not good for the patient, you know. No. You get infections and weird shit happens. Yeah. But I didn't feel ready to go when I left. I was kind of like advocating like I need another.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like my bowels, it's kind of like too much detail, but my bowels had shut down from the drugs that I'd taken for a day and just like they wouldn't start back again. Oh, man. And I could. And I was like, I can't, I'm, I can't leave right now. I'm going to be back here tomorrow. Maybe that is part of the thing that we're feeling in New York is that they don't want people in the hospitals and they all got sent out. Oh, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 When they were overloaded. And like we, whatever department like, knows these kind of people, we can't deal with that right now. It's got to be part of it. Yeah, sure. Every kind of service is strained to the max. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Public service. But I will say the people that are out on the streets of Manhattan, very healthy bowels.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Working at full force. Careful will you, where you step. I know, it's a hard thing to talk about. But it was really like one of the most miserable things I've ever experienced. And it was terrible. It's got to be. Yeah. Skipping days just ruins your whole outlook on life.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think it was seven days. Oh my God. Yeah. And I was in the hospital for five. So it was like, were you like, let's just get some buffalo wings or some tabooly? Let's go to the old standbyes? I couldn't eat anything.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Nothing. I was like, I would eat the tiniest, tiniest, tinyest bit of food. And I would just be so nauseous. I felt like there was a board through the middle. of my body. It was just like... You were just filling up.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. It was crazy. And I'm sorry to be graphic about it, but when it did, when the gates opened, was it like instant relief or was it slow coming? Well. Like was there ever a moment where it was like... No. It was like slow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It was like, please, please, please. And then a goat marble. Yeah. And it just, yeah. It's a weird thing. But it's a weird thing when that's going on and they're like, And you have to go. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And you have to leave right now. Yeah. Because your arm looks fine. The surgery we did looks fine. So you got to go. That was crazy, too. Yeah. Was that you broke your arm.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah. And no, this is modern medicine. No cast. Yeah. You just had like a little band-aid on it. And you were like walking with me through Santa Monica. Five days after being hit by a bus. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Well, they put a titanium plate in there. And I guess after they do that, they're like, there's no cast or anything. It's just like the plate is drilled into your bone. It's going to hold. It's going to be fine. God. Yeah, it's just like. What a wonder.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I had a, you know, a wound. Yeah. But that's all I had to protect really. Yeah. It's strange. And we just went for a walk. We went for walks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And just walked along the promenade there at San Monica overlooking the ocean. Yeah. And it was like there were, you had to. It was like, this is a perfect day. Oh, except my friend. been hit by a bus. Yeah, it was so strange. I mean, I couldn't travel because I had a punctured lung,
Starting point is 00:36:29 so, and I couldn't travel anyway. I could hardly move, but I could walk, and that was about it. I couldn't lay down. And so my mom and I got a hotel in Santa Monica. Yeah. And just hung out and there for like five, six weeks, something like that. Did you get angry? Because I know, I remember when Stephen King,
Starting point is 00:36:47 he used to walk through Maine on the roads, like he would take his daily walks and stuff, and he got hit, somebody hit him. Oh, really? The car, yeah. And he was so angry because his life was together. He felt physically like I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And the interruption of it really, excuse me, turned into rage for a point. I'm sure it was like waves of it. Did you ever have that? Yeah, I got angry. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know where to direct my anger, but I was just like, this is not ending. I was just getting back into my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And then my, like, I had to start my life over again. And it was so, it was difficult. And I was, I was scared because I, I didn't know how things were going to heal. There was a lot of questions about all these ribs if they were going to heal in a way that caused me just prolonged pain. If I'd be, my life is traveling. I didn't know if I'd be able to travel. My lung was healing, but it was like, I was gasping for air all the time. And I was like, am I just going to have to gasp on stage?
Starting point is 00:37:47 There was all these questions that were just, I don't know what my life's going to be like when this is. done. Yeah. And that made me angry and scared. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. My mom dealt with a lot of that. Right. But, you know, she's so calming and she's been through so much and she helped me a lot to, like, just focus on right now and the present and like, yeah. She's a great person having your corner. Yeah. But what I learned is that you can't really be, you know, grateful for a tragedy. Like people go, you're so lucky. It could have been so much. And yes, it's like, Everybody said, you know, it's remarkable. There's no head trauma, all this stuff, which I understand is great.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But the thing to focus your gratitude on and try to dismiss your anger from is like that you have all these tools and all these resources and the people around you to take care of it. Like I had health insurance. I had enough money that even though I had to go do these extra appointments, I just thought I'll just pay for it if my insurance doesn't cover it because they were like battling me on some of this out of network stuff. So it was like, I had everything. I had really good doctors. Yeah. It was like I started to really try to focus on those things. Because, you know, it could have, what could have been so much worse is I didn't have those tools.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And that would have been, you know. You see why people get wiped out? Yeah. You see why people get completely wiped out from an illness? Totally. I mean, I thought about that so much. It's like, yes, I'm glad I have health insurance. But even with health insurance, this is not cheap, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:20 No. I was able to just put myself up in a nice hotel for like a month and a half. Yeah. You know? Right, exactly. And that's a huge expense. And it's like all those things, I was just able to do what I needed to do to be comfortable while I was doing this. And I had people to help me.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Gratitude is a powerful thing. Oh, man. I was listening to someone who was talking about that, like the thing that, gratitude is the thing that dispels resentment. When you're resentful of other people and what they have and what they're, doing and you're resentful for what you haven't achieved. The only way to dispel that is with gratitude, actually taking a deep breath and appreciating the stuff that you do have. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And then you kind of levels it all out and it really diffuses those bitter feelings. Right. Gratitude is powerful. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to see, though, when you get hit by a bus. Yeah. But I guess the, you're lucky is not that you're hit by a bus.
Starting point is 00:40:15 You're really saying is you're lucky you're alive. Right. Right. Yeah. It's not like, oh, what a blessing you got a hit by the bus. But they're actually saying, this is the other thing. It's always people, it's always them. It's not really about you.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's about them. So when someone says, oh, you're so lucky. What they're saying is, I'm lucky that my friend didn't die. Right. I know, I know. That's really what they're saying. Right. Which is, if you're listening, it's like, it's a kind thing to say.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's just hard to hear. Yeah. Because you're like, man, I just, I feel like. like the unluckiest person right now. Right, exactly. Yeah. It's just so hard to hear. Okay, so let me ask you this, because Ryan Hamilton is, everyone will say, is one of the nicest people in comedy. Everybody loves the lovable, joyous, good-natured, Ryan Hamilton. So when Ryan Hamilton gets angry and he's having his moments of being angry, how does that come out? Does Ryan Hamilton just kind of frown for a
Starting point is 00:41:18 second? Or does he throw his lunch against the wall? Ah, that's a good question. I mean, no, I don't like, I, what do I do? Do you laugh out or you just get quiet? I kind of get quiet, I think. And I don't know, I do it alone, you know? Yeah, yeah. I'll, I'll kind of get yell alone or something. That's good. Yeah, yeah. That's good. My therapist is always, anger is good. You know, it's an emotion. You've got to get out and it's okay. So I try to remember that and I try to express my anger when it's there. Right. But not in a, you know, harmful way. But yeah, but yeah, it's mostly comes out alone, I think, because I'm scared of, you know. Yeah. But I, yeah, my mom heard me a lot, I think. I don't get, because just in the middle of the night, I would just, I couldn't sleep. Oh my God. And I would just
Starting point is 00:42:17 get i would turn and toss and i'd be in pain and i would take drugs and it wouldn't work and then i would just be like i you know i'm sure i made all sorts of crazy noise my mom's in the next room yeah she would wake up and be like is everything okay i'm like i'm sorry i'm fine everything's fine it was a couple i guess like a month after you you you broke pretty much all your ribs yeah 10 of them 10 of them and we've got 12 12 of them yeah and then i was in where was i oh i was in oh i was in Fargo, North Dakota, winter. I remember this. And I slipped on the ice.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I slipped and went down hard and fast. And I broke a rib. I could just feel like one. It was no more than one. It was one rib. And I'm telling you, it messed up my life for a good two months. And I called you and I'm like, look, I'm suffering too. I totally know what you're going through.
Starting point is 00:43:21 But in the reality, I was being funny, but of course, but the reality was like, how, because I was having trouble sleeping because I couldn't turn on that side. Yeah. And you had all of them. You had no sides left. Yeah. Well, it was all on one side, but five of them were broken in two places. But it was like, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I know ribs are like some of the most painful things people say to break, but I had so much going on that it was just like, I couldn't really tell where the pain was for a long time. How did you sleep, though? How did you sleep? I didn't sleep well for a long time. Yeah. But I just had to, we tried all sorts of different contraptions. I'd get on the phone with, on the floor with, on the phone, on the floor with pillows behind me. We'd like, we'd get like this perfect situation where I would just prop myself and I would stay there for a couple hours and I couldn't, I'd have to move.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Jeez. Yeah, it was terrible. God. The hospital bed really works, but you can't get the. at home. Like you're right where they can like detail every part of your sitting situation. Like a scarecrow? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Oh my God. Getting home, it was hard to sleep. Yeah, it was hard. But that eventually got better and better. And it was weird because the pain would just kind of slowly get more specific over time. And I would start to be like, oh, this is a trouble spot because this is not going away. Right. And it was so weird because I was like, eventually I'm like, okay, there's like three things left.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Right, yeah. And I kind of would get worried. I'd be like, that one's going to stick around. Yeah. And there's this one spot in the top of my back up here that still hurts occasionally. But that's, and my arm is stiff sometimes. But, you know, it's like I don't think about the pain as very often. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And traveling's okay? Yeah, it's a little weirder. Is it weird? Like the air pressure? anything like that? Sometimes on the plane, I'm like, I can't tell if this is just because I've been hauled my luggage around or I'm on the plane or what, but yeah, the top of my back will start to hurt again. Well, if it's any consolation, I feel that right now.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, exactly. I just flew in and I'm just like, I need a massage. Yeah, I think it's just a lot of it normal. I think you should be allowed to get massaged. Do you get massages? Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I think you should be, you should get those a lot. Yeah, I think we should. Actually, when I was doing physical therapy, that was the thing that helped me the most was this then they would say, like, you should just keep doing this. The massage therapy is the thing that help. You can do everything else yourself, but you can't do that. No, and you really need, it's not like, it's not, I would always feel like, kind of like, I don't know, kind of like a, I always picture my father, like, when I'm
Starting point is 00:46:02 looking at like a spa menu, I just picture my father, like, a big tough guy from a different generation being like, are you kidding me? I know, it feels. But you know what? We need it. Yeah. That's why, maybe that's why he was. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Angry because he didn't get too many massages. Well, it's like in this spa setting with all this stuff surrounded. But really, it's just like a healthy medical thing that you need. God forbid we take care of ourselves. God forbid somebody actually works out a physical defect in your shoulders that will make your next month okay when you're traveling around. I'm glad you could breathe on the plane. I was next to somebody that had one of those French bulldogs. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And it was actually, it was an actor. You know the guy from, oh, you know the guy from, did you watch Top Gun? Did you see Maverick? The new one, yeah. The new one? You know, the roosters, the kid with the mustache who was in the drumming movie. Miles Teller? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Oh, wow. That guy. Oh, wow. Yeah, he was in the, we're in a little plane. Yeah, he's great. Yeah. And he was on the plane, and his little French bulldog was having trouble breathing. They were bringing out a little oxygen thing and get up.
Starting point is 00:47:14 getting them to breathe. Wow. Those dogs aren't great on land. No. And you throw them up in the air and take all the air pressure away. What are you doing? Do I really have to go to Tahoe? So you don't want to be that guy.
Starting point is 00:47:33 No, no. Fortunately, I don't think, I think there, my lung capacity is slightly inhibited, but I'm not like a athlete. So it's like I don't notice it that much. It hasn't screwed up your triathlons. I swim laps sometimes and I'm like, I think, I don't know if it's just me getting back or if my lungs, but I don't know. I could see you there with your coffee deciding in the apartment. Should I go swim today? I was hit by a bus.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I can't really. My lungs don't live. I did the Peloton yesterday. Yeah. Actually, yesterday I'll do a little humble brag. I hit a three-year streak, a 156-week streak, which means I've used the Peloton at least once a week for 156 weeks. Wow, good job.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Which is pretty much right as the pandemic started. Right. A little before. And then when the pandemic hit, I was just like, oh, exercise is going to stop me from going crazy. Yeah. So I just kept going. And then the streak became very enticing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 So then it kept me in it. And yesterday I hit three years. Wow. And I know, I should be in better shape. But the, Matt Wilpers is the coach that I like on it. And he was like, I just did a mini triathlon or a half triathlon. I don't know what they call it. I was too angry because he was like, a mile and a half swim and a 56 mile bike ride.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Oh, my God. And a 12 mile run. Oh, my God. That's like the mini version. Wow. The half marathon, a half triathlon. Oh, my God. I'm there like doing 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah. Excited. I'm hitting my three-year thing on the bike. Isn't it amazing? The body's amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 If you really focused with discipline, it's like amazing. Even later in life I'm learning. I mean, it's like I'm middle age, but it's like going through all that physical therapy, your body reacts. And it, it's, like, you get, people said after I came back a lot, you look better, which really threw me. Like, I'm like, what happened that I can. got hit by a bus, which was an improvement. But I was so diligent with my physical therapy. I think it improved, like, I think my posture is a little better than I used to be. I built some muscles. And they teach you about this stuff, like in physical therapy. I was like, everybody should just go to
Starting point is 00:49:55 physical therapy without an accident, because they look at your body. I had really good physical therapist. And they go, here's your problem areas. You have this, but it's all related. So we need to work on everything to fix you, you know? Really? Yeah. And I'm doing. these weird little exercises in my neck now where I, you don't even know that you're exercising. Yeah, but it's like, I'm lay on the floor and I just, it's this tiniest of motion. Right. And after you do it a few days, you're like, oh, these are muscles that have never been worked. These tiny little muscles in your neck that just hold your head in the right place.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And I'm like, I never knew that I needed to exercise those. I thought they were just doing. Yeah, yeah. Just do their things. Yeah. So it's like, if you start really listening to your body and like binding the things that you need to do specifically. Yeah. It's amazing. Your body responds. It's amazing. It's amazing, too, how we have these ideas of like, all right, I'm going to start getting in shape. So I'm going to need a gym
Starting point is 00:50:51 that has all the machines and have all the stuff and I'm going to get a membership and get all this stuff. Yeah. And really, when you haven't been doing it? Yeah. Lay on the floor. Yeah. And do 10 push-ups. And then roll on your back and do 10 sit-ups. Yes. And then do a plank. Yes. And that's it for the day. Yeah. Because you haven't been doing anything. Yeah. So even the slightest, little thing is a lot. Yes. It really is a lot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. I just started doing 25 push-ups every day. That's great. Just to, just to like start the day off. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, now I'm stronger. Yeah. You feel like you can do stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah. Here's one thing I can't do, though. I'll ask you if you can do it. Yeah. Can you do a pull-up? I haven't tried to do a pull-up in a long time. I don't know if I... I think I'm cleared to do it now, but for a long time, I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:51:39 They were like, you can do everything. everything except don't hang on stuff. Oh. But I think I could now. Now I could do it whatever I want, but I haven't tried. I can hang, but I can't then pull myself up. I used to be able to do it, but that's my goal. That's my goal.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I haven't tried in a long time. I don't know if I can do a pull-up. I used to go do the counterweight pull-ups. Have you ever done that machine where it's like you, it helps you, it assists you, you know? That would be good. Yeah. Yeah. I really, I'm like, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Because I'm not weak. I can do all these other things. It seems like you should be able to do a pull-up. They're very hard. Very hard. I haven't tried in a long time. I got this new bar put in my garage. That's why it's happening.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Good. And I'm like, that's my, that's a good goal. That is a good goal. One pull-up by the end of the summer. And then I'll be ready to go. That's a great goal. I was doing push-ups just every day for like six weeks. before my accident. I don't know why. I just started doing a bunch of push-ups twice a day.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And I think it really helped me recover. It just was like just doing that. Maybe like, okay, you can get through this. Because just even having that little bit of muscle build. The muscle bill? Was it a mental thing too? Was it like I'm, maybe. I'm getting stronger. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. But physically it was just like it really helped me be strong enough to get through all. that, I think. Right. I was lucky that it happened. I'm saying it to myself.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I was lucky that it happened when it did because I was in relatively decent shape when it happened. Yeah. God. If you get hit by a bus when you're a bag of bones. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 You don't come back. Yeah. Right. So for our listeners, if you are going to get hit by a bus, make sure you work out first. Time it. Time it. Yeah. Get in good shape and then just wander into traffic.
Starting point is 00:53:42 and don't look both ways. I can't, every once in a while I'll just have a moment where it's like, oh, that really happened. Yeah. I can't even think about it. It just makes me ill. Yeah. Do you, are you doing anything to change your luck? Are you carrying crystals around?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Or are you eating a lot of garlic? Are you? No, I don't really think like that. I don't know. I just, what am I doing? It's just chaos. I'm just trying to get back to where I was, really. I just want my life.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Well, you seem like, you seem like you are. Yeah, I think it's, yeah. I mean, it's probably not 100%. Yeah. You know, and also, you know, you feel vulnerable after those things. Yeah. Do you ever just burst out crying on the streets of New York? Yeah, but I did that before.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's part of living in New York. That makes me feel like that. I come back. Could you live... You know how during the pandemic, a lot of comedians blew up and just moved to Nashville, up into the woods of New Hampshire or whatever? Is there any place in the country other than New York
Starting point is 00:54:57 that you could see yourself living? Well, I'm from Idaho, you know? I have some property in Idaho that I always kind of dream about building on and just, like, going back to. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. and there's a lot I love about it.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah. I think it would be pretty hard for me to do my job from a place like that. I need like a major airport. I'm a guy who likes to work on stage a lot. Yeah. I just can't do like my headlining sets and get the work done that I need to do for me. I know. Some people can, I think.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Can they? I don't know. They seem to. Yeah. But I don't know. Everybody's process is different. but I see some people that I never see in the clubs and then I see them doing a theater an hour
Starting point is 00:55:44 and it's like, where did you do that? Right. How did you work on that? Because I'm not like that. Yeah. I work it out in the club and then do the hour. I mean, I'm adding to the hour. So I think it would change the dynamic of what I do quite a bit if I wasn't in New York or L.A.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah. I feel the same way. Yeah. And, you know, there's also that filter of being, in New York and L.A. Yeah. You can go out there and just keep doing your weekends
Starting point is 00:56:13 and create these longer sets. Yeah. But then you walk into the seller or the comedy store and all of a sudden there's a different judgment on your set. Yeah. There's a, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Yes. Is this good enough, that was good enough to go fool the people in Davenport. But are the sophisticated audiences that really love and no comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You can smell bullshit. Yeah. Are they going to let all your stuff? Yeah. If it was working out there, are they going to approve of all that? Yeah. And you get a sense of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And that's why it's valuable because it ups the game. Yeah. And you're following people. Like, I'll watch the person before me and go, whoa. I got to step it up. Yeah. Mike Yard just took the roof off with stuff I've never heard before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. And it's hard to manufacture that in yourself. Like, you can't really, like, just go on the road and be like, I'm going to push myself to do this. No, it's really valuable. For me. Let me ask you this, too. Don't you think it's time? I'm so sick of hearing people say, I'm working on my new hour. I'm going to record my hour. Everybody from, you know, from Kevin Hart down to a guy in New York comedy. Comedy Club is just everybody I'm just getting to a point where I'm like why are we all saying and doing the same exact thing? Like what? Right? There has to be either another term or another
Starting point is 00:57:56 That we're all working on our hour. Yes. Yeah. I'm sick of it. Yeah. And I feel like we're lemmings. Yeah. I don't think about it. I mean, I do when I have to, when you're put to it, you're like, okay, I got to get a product out there. Do I have an hour? Like, that's how I think about it. Like, do I have... I would rather you say, even, I'm going to record my special. Yes. Yes. I'm working on my special. Or I'm working on my... Yes. Because I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It's like, it feels like we're just, it feels a little too like a, like, like, like, we're manufacturing this thing. Like we're like an assembly line, boom, boom, hour, boom, boom, boom. Right, exactly. Yeah. And it's like, shouldn't we artistically be a little different from each other? Right. I mean, I know we're saying different things.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah. But this kind of robotic mantra of, I'm working on my hour, I'm working on my hour. Are you working on your hour? I just did my hour. I'm working on my hour. I'm putting my hour together. I'm going to shoot my hour. What?
Starting point is 00:59:08 What? What is this general motors? Yes. What's going on? Yes. Because you have to... I think about it as jokes. That's how I've always done it.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And then I put all these jokes together. And I'm like, how do I make this flow into a way that the laughs work? Yeah. I mean the dynamic of the laughs where there's resting and there's a peak and it doesn't feel awkward. That's how I always put it together. Right. Right. So I'm just thinking about, like, oh, I have a new idea I want to work on.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And then how do it? I stick it in somewhere. Yeah. Do it on the road. Maybe you should call it your cavalcade of comedy. I'm working on my cavalcade of comedy. I'm working on my... I'm working on a feature film starring me, playing myself, telling jokes.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm working on my next film. Yeah, well, that's kind of what we used to say, right? Like this idea of I'm working on my hours, like maybe in the last 10 years we started... Louis did it. Yeah, it was because... Louis was doing an hour every year. Yeah, and he was, and which was a blessing for comics, honestly.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It was, right. We went from a group of people as comedians, as headliners, doing 45 minutes for 10 years straight, the same exact act, to being a more artistic and putting out more, and he affected everybody
Starting point is 01:00:31 down the chain. He did. He blew it up. Yeah. But then every, so, okay, so he, he did what I'm saying we should be doing, which is going in a new direction or just calling it something different. Right, right. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah. It's like saying, you know, Kendrick Lamar put out a new album, so we're all going to copy Kendrick Lamar. Like, we're all going to, you know what I mean? It's a little too. Yeah. I mean, we all are, we're all different, but this thing of like, yeah. What were you saying that we used to say it was different? we used to say
Starting point is 01:01:09 Well, I think that's, we didn't used to say, are you working on your app? Right, right. We would just say, what are you working on? Are you got a new bit? Or are you shooting a special?
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. Are you shooting a special maybe? But even that was pretty more of, I don't know if like, it's like everybody plans on shooting a special now. I don't know that 10, 15 years ago, it was like, oh, I heard you got a special. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah. Now it's like, when are you shooting your special? And how are you doing it? Yeah, it's just assumed that you will be. You will be. Because you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Because it's, it was similar to like making an album. Yeah. I started out. Right. It was like, I remember walking around and I'm always wrong on all this stuff, by the way. Let me be very clear.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And all my bravado, I'm always very wrong about it. But what I used to walk around and say, everybody who started burning their own CDs, everybody was able to record an MP3. And it was like, and I remember thinking, no, wait, you had to earn an album. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You had to be so good that Warner Brothers would say you're ready. Right. And I'm like, just because the technology is there, doesn't mean you're worthy of an album. Right. Well, I was wrong about that. I mean, everybody's starting. And now it's the same thing with the specials. It's not Netflix or HBO doesn't have to come to you and say, we want your special.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Right. That's great if they do. Right. But if they don't, you just get your cameras and shoot it and put it on YouTube yourself. Yeah. So it is a thing. Yeah. And creatively, that's great.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah. That you don't have a game. gatekeeper. Right. That's all fine. Right. But how do you break away from the pack of that? Yeah, I don't know. It's like, uh, you're asking a guy who's not, I'm the wrong guy to ask on this. What do you mean? I never feel like I'm the first guy to do the new thing, you know? I'm always like dragging my feet. Like, I just want to perform line. And I'm always like, I have to do this. I, like, Oh, now I have to. I don't have a TikTok account now.
Starting point is 01:03:10 This is the thing that I'm dragging my feet on now. Okay. I guess, you know, three years ago, I said I'll never get a TikTok account. It's like the same thing over and over again. I'll never be on Instagram. And it's like, okay, now I'm going to get a TikTok. So I'm like the last guy always, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I know we had that discussion actually when in San Diego was like, we should make it like that were physical trainers for each other. Yes. for social media. You're not going to work out unless through physical trainers waiting for you at the gym at 1 o'clock. If it's on your own, you're going to skip. Yeah. But if you say, all right, have you posted on social media today?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yeah. And I'm like, oh, shit, I got a poster. Ryan's going to be mad at me. Right. But the problem is, you wouldn't be mad at me. I wouldn't even ask you because I don't want to get asked. I don't want to do it either. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:03 It's, yeah, so I don't know. It's, it's, it's in, I'm the wrong guy. Yeah. Well, I just feel like I don't want to say I'm working on my hour ever again. That's fine. I think you don't have to. I'm working on a new film. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 If you just said that, I'm getting ready to shoot my, my, my next film. Yeah. What? What are you doing? Yeah, I'm doing a film. What is it? Oh, it's called, you know, water bottles or death. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:31 What? And you wrote it? Yeah, I wrote the whole thing. Yeah. And you're in it? Yeah. I'm starring in it. And who out? Who's it for? It's for Netflix. Really? Oh, okay. And then, is it? Yeah. No, it's just me telling jokes. It's me on stage at this theater and I'm going to be filming it. Oh, you're talking about an hour? No, I don't know. Maybe it's, no, I think it's longer than that, but it's just my film. That sounds kind of cool. I remember when Jackie Mason went to Broadway. I remember I was way before I did comedy, but I remember hearing that he was taking his stand-up show and he put it on Broadway and it made it more special.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Right. It just made it. Yeah. And it was the same thing. Right. But it just had a cool logo and went up and did it. And it was like, I remember thinking that like, oh, he just decided that what he was doing was. worth more than the guy that was going down to the tropicana and headlining for the weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:43 You know what I mean? He made that decision himself. Yeah. I guess that's true. Yeah. It's... If you were to... If you were to shoot your next film, your next stand-up film, which I'm sure is what
Starting point is 01:05:58 prior called it. Probably. But it was actually like shonen movie theaters and stuff. So it felt more like a film. Right. It was like, we didn't know the difference yet. It was like, this is just a thing doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And if you can call a movie on streaming on Netflix a movie. Yeah. I can call my special a movie. Yeah. If you were to name your next movie right now where your set is, what would be the working title? The name of it? Oh, I have a name. I, you know, my first special was called Happy Face.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Uh-huh. And I had this idea, I don't know if this is a good idea, tell me, to name the next one, Happy Place. Happy Place. It's like a companion piece. Nice. And because I think we're all kind of thinking about place more and where we are. And our lives have become more, um, a little.
Starting point is 01:07:02 little bit smaller and more the place we are is more important. Right. And I just like that idea. I love that idea. And I have some jokes that kind of go along with it. I've actually, it's so weird, because this is the first time I've ever like, oh, I have this title I really like, but I don't know how to make. So I'm like writing towards the title in a way. But I also like the, I like the, I like the idea of it. I do too. So I've been working on that. And to keep it subtle, to not land too heavy on it. Yeah. Like, because you could name the set that I saw a couple weeks ago that easily.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of more thought-provoking to have the audience fill in the blanks there. Yes, that could happen to. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to say happy place once somewhere, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Just as a kind of an off thing. Oh, you mean in the set? In the set. I like those moments where. there's like, oh, there's the title. Oh, yeah. You ever see that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I always go back and forth with it. I'm like, do I want to call it out or not call it out? Yeah. I was talking to Patton Oswald and he's opposed to it. Oh, really? Yeah, he was like he doesn't like when you go along and then it's like, gerbil house and you're like, oh, that's why it's called gerbil house. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:25 He likes it to be, to not be related at all. Yeah. It depends on how heavy-handed it is. Right. Yeah. Like sometimes it's subtle enough where I enjoy it. Yeah. Sometimes. I don't think there's anything wrong with either direction, really. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I always like that. Yeah. Just when you'd spot it. It's like a little Easter egg or something. Right, right, right. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That would be really good. Happy face and happy place. I'm glad you like it. Yeah. I haven't really asked anyone about it, but I just had that idea. And I was like, I like the idea of building a body of work, you know, kind of like it's related to the last thing. It's like there's some continuity to it. Yes, exactly. Yeah, because now, dare I say, you're creating a body of work.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Right. Body of work. So that's my idea for, I don't know. I like it. So now you have the blueberry croissant. Yeah. Will you have lunch? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Do you want to get lunch? I can't. I have to do my Serious XM show right. Oh, okay. And then I got to go do that other. I'm thinking I might go to the cellar and work because I never go sit in the olive tree. Every once in a while, people go there with their laptop and just work. When I lived here, I did that almost every day.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Yeah, I might go do that and grab some food. That's a great idea. Yeah. Well, if you're there at around 3.30, if you're still around, I'll roll in. Yeah, I don't know. That'll be a ways away. I don't know what time it is. I'm in a time warp right now.
Starting point is 01:09:57 It's 115. We really have to stop. Do we? Okay. Unfortunately. Yeah. This was great. This was really fun. Yeah. So you shouldn't be afraid of podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Well, you shouldn't do other people. You should just keep doing mine. Oh, well, I like talking to you. That's the thing about it. It's like, who am I talking with? And even now, the whole time I'm doing this podcast, I'm like, I'm worried about the subway story. I'm like, did I say, what did I say? That's just who I am.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I have anxiety. You're going to offend either the tourist or the guy who's been tased seven times. Yeah. Yeah. I doubt, I mean, look, this is a popular podcast, but I doubt they're listening. No, I know they're not listening, but it's just, I don't know. You're in a safe space, and you're a good person. You have to consider the source.
Starting point is 01:10:45 So anything that you said on here is, I think was totally appropriate. Okay. Except for that you didn't share any of the croissants. But that's, you know, people have different ways of sharing food. And some people's way of sharing food is not sharing it. That's my way. Yeah. But I offered it to you.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I mean, you bought them for me. They're for you. And I have a bag here so you can take the other ones out. Wow, they're so good. Thank you so much. You're welcome. And when you come to L.A., I'll bake for you. I would love that.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I don't think I've ever had any of your bread. You haven't. When you came to my house for dinner that time. Oh, maybe we did. In L.A., no, it was before bread. That's right. We had some good food, I remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I forget what I made. It was years ago. It was good. But that's when I was just cooking. Now we throw the bread into it. Forget it. And Bascotti. Do you know my new nickname is Tommy Biscotti?
Starting point is 01:11:39 No. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, it's starting to catch. Is that going to be the name of your new hour? You're the worst. All right, Ryan. Good seeing you.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Good to see you, too. Thank you, Nicole. You're welcome. There you have it, everybody. Ryan Hamilton. I told you it was a good story. Who has a story like that? A lot of people say they were hit by a bus.
Starting point is 01:11:59 but you don't you don't hear it very often. The great Ryan Hamilton, I hope you enjoyed it. Go to tompapa.com. I'm doing a series of clubs. This weekend I will be at Brea Improv, and then I'm going to Wise Guys in Salt Lake City and Tempe Improv
Starting point is 01:12:16 and the House of Blues in Honolulu, Hawaii, doing a bunch of sets because I will be recording my stand-up special at the Wilber Theater, my next Netflix special. I'm doing it at the Wilbur Theater on October 1st. And if you want to come see it and be a part of it, at the release of this, there will be a pre-sale. The code is Papa.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You can get in on that. We're going to be doing two shows at the Wilbur Theater on October 1st, all the taping for the next Netflix special. Very exciting. I hope to see you there. Go to tompapa.com for all the rest. And that's it, kids. We'll see you next week.

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