Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 120 - Chad & JT

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

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Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. I am Tom Papa. Thank you for joining us at the table once again. We have a great show for you today. Very excited to introduce you or bring you. Chad and J.T. Chad Kroger and J.T. Parr, very funny human beings, good people. They have a new show streaming on Netflix now called Chad and J.T. Go Deep. It is hilarious. They're also their podcast going deep with Chad and JT. Two very funny human beings, and I got a chance to spend a lot of time with them today. We also did my radio show earlier, and there's nothing better when you see people's work before you even know them, and it makes you laugh, And then you think, oh, this would be a cool hang.

I just have an instinct that I would like these people. And then it comes true. These guys are great. They're hilarious. The show was really funny. And we have a great conversation. And there's a lot of pressure on it because, you know, they're cool, cool Southern California bros.

And that's what I've been trying to do ever since I left New Jersey. So I'm going to try and earn it today and see if I'm, if I've achieved it, if I am indeed accepted. We have an amazing, amazing tour going on right now. Go to tompapa.com. We've got lots of shows coming up in California. We've got shows coming up in Hawaii, a whole bunch of stuff, and all culminating on October 1st at the Wilbur Theater,

where I'm recording my next Netflix special that's on October 1st. we've got shows we've got an early show is sold out for the taping the next one they're still a little available i hope by the time this airs that i haven't led you astray but they're going fast so but anyway all going up to that and then the tour keeps rolling from there at the count bacy theater in new jersey and a bunch of other spots a whole texas run finally doing a dallas san antonio and Houston all in one week. It's a lot of great shows and we've been rolling and doing a lot of great shows in the last through the summer getting ready for the special and we're going to continue doing that. So go to tompapa.com. I want to jump right into it because it's a pretty

healthy interview. Just give you an update. I'm up to 18 hot dogs on the hot dog eating contest that I'm going against pretty much no one but myself. We've got two. We've got two two weeks technically of the summer left. We've got only two weeks, which leads us to Labor Day, the unofficial. Of course, I think September still counts, but let's go by the school schedule and the unofficial. So yeah, so I've got, if I'm going to, if I'm going to hit 20, I think I'll definitely hit 20, but man, eating hot dogs is pretty impactful. One cool thing that I'll say really quickly. I made a Pomodoro yesterday, which is a pure

tomato sauce, which I just saw an article in the Times, and of course, New Jersey is popping off with their legendary tomatoes. This is the, you know, mid end of August. There's nothing better than those tomatoes. I was getting

very jealous. And to make a Pomodoro is just olive oil and garlic, and then you cook down the tomatoes and then strain them and the sauce that you have left, you know, salt and pepper, of course, is a pomodoro sauce. Put it in with spaghetti. And, oh, so good. I did not have them because I live out here in California. We're not getting those Jersey tomatoes. They don't head this way. We have all of those perfect-looking beefsteak tomatoes that just don't have any flavor at all.

They look amazing in the supermarket, even in good places, but they just, there's something special about those Jersey ones, which I'm not going to get. So I got heirloom tomatoes, which are the closest kind of raw, organic thing that I could get. And I know that they're going to be filled with flavor. And I did it. And it did. The flavor was nice. It was good. It was elegant. But it wasn't, didn't have that red pop because, you know, they're kind of yellow and a little kind of dark red and dark, almost green. So I only bring this up to say, if you are back east, do it. It's so easy. It's simple. A nice way to, it takes 40 minutes in total to make. It's a lot. It takes 40 minutes in total to make this simple, simple dish and let me know how it goes because I will definitely be envious.

And my nephew Henry, who's the farmer at my sister's farm at nonprofit for Citigreen, he's got barrels of them and he's just giving them out to everyone in the family and it's making me think maybe I live in the wrong place. All right, enough of that. Let's get into it now. You're going to enjoy this conversation. Two very funny human beings, Chad and JT. You guys know Aaron

Really well, yeah, that's our boy Yeah Do you like having him on Like when he's doing your podcast And hang with you guys Do you get the feeling He'd rather be with me? Yeah, I get a little jealous

Does he say it in the middle of your pot? He'll say your name Or like sometimes like we'll try to riff a bit And it'll kind of sink And then he'll just say Papa would have done it better But it's nice He motivates me I remember we came in one, he came to the recording one time and he's like, no bread?

No. No. Yeah. Give him some water. I feed him well. I have to apologize at the start because I just got off the road. I just came home last night and I didn't have time to bake you bread. How many, how many episodes have you done?

How many, Aaron, like 120? How many times have you not had bread? for the guess. Four? Well, you must know that I don't eat carbs. Yeah, that was it. But we do get you donuts. Oh, dude, I do eat carbs.

Oh, no way. Yeah. That's so cool. Dude, nice. Yeah, I got you donuts. And it actually, as I was doing it, it's kind of, is there tape over there? Yes, there is. So nervous. It felt like donuts was more fun anyway.

Oh, these looks so good. Thank you. And let me say, I also believe that we're going to be fast friends because we, full disclosure, we hung out and met for the first time this morning on my Netflix show. And I'm like, oh, we're going to totally be bros. So I'll get you bread. Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah. You will get bread.

And I could also send it with Aaron, or I could come on your podcast. We'll figure it out. I'll be often. But I will definitely get you bread. Yeah. Thank you for the time. Did people eat during the podcast? Yeah, the audience hates it.

But only if it's real. Yeah, I don't know why it makes people's. I don't think it makes everybody angry, but the people who do get angry about it get really angry. I ate sweet potato one time on Mike. We were on Zoom and I didn't even realize. Uh-huh. It was peak pandemic.

So I was like, I was just like, fuck this, just eating sweet potato. Dude, the amount of hate I got for like three months, it was just like the time you ate sweet potato into the mic. I was like, why they, I don't understand. the anger. I loved hearing people chew. I love it. Yeah. It's a gift. Does it give you the tingles? It doesn't give me the tingles. Well, I don't know. I haven't put it to the test. But I do love when people, you know, because I cook and bake a lot, so I don't know, chewing doesn't really bother me. Is that like your version of therapy is like cooking and baking

and stuff like that? Yeah, you know, it kind of didn't start out that way, but I quickly found that I cling to it that way. Like when I do get off the road and can, I was away for like three straight weeks like with my family back east and doing all this stuff and wasn't at the house at all. And when I came back and started doing it, I was like, it was a stressful trip, a lot of family, a lot of stuff. As soon as I started making bread, I was like, ah, I was just so like content. So yeah, it's become my therapy for sure. That sounds nice. Yeah.

What's your therapy? My therapy, surfing. I like to have Perniamson. Yeah. guys are good at that. Does it work? Have you felt a change? Yeah, I'm a much happier person. You are. There's more tan my butthole the better I live. Yeah, now you have to, and I're watching your show, Chad and JT, or is it T, or is it the other way around? It's JT. But Chad goes first. Mm-hmm. Um, go deep. Great show. Thank you. So good.

You liked it? I really do like it. And I'm only two in. And I'm, uh, Looking forward to watching the rest of it. Oh, thank you. Yeah. My wife doesn't like it. But she was distracted. She was doing mom stuff. I think once we get more into the narrative, I think she'd get hooked in because it's very,

it goes deep into the weeds of our relation. Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I think it's she'll like it because you're always trying to do good. You're always really trying to help people and make them enjoy their life. And I think she'll be on board. Yeah.

You know, it's kind of like when I'll watch TV with my parents. and I'll be like, you got to watch this, you got to watch Ozarks. And they talk for the first 10 minutes of it. And then they'd be like, I don't know what's going on. It's like, well, you talk the whole time. Yeah. My wife did that to your show last night. Nice.

Yeah. But when you were, and what is it called again? Paranineum. Paranium. And Paranium sunning? Yeah. Where you've got to get sun on your butthole. So you, you guys do it.

full naked. I can imagine that you could just do it. You could just drop shorts, right? You could just put your shorts down past your, your like bottom butt line. Right. And keep a shirt on and stuff, but I mean, if you're going to do it, do it. Might as well do it. Well, there's also, you know, boxers will have that, like, slit, that slot for your, you know, your junk. Just put on boxers backwards and it lines up perfectly. So when you grab your ankles, it spreads. Right. And the sun just goes right in sort of like a, you know, like a locking key. How long do you have to do it? How long?

How long? What's optimum sunnage? I mean, we've worked our way up. I did probably a two-hour session this morning. Wow. Yeah. And how has it changed your life? I'm just so fired up and stoked.

And my tea is just through the roof. I've been lifting more. Really? I know how to read now. Whoa. That was huge. Yeah. Because he came over one day.

And we were, like, writing something, which normally he just dictates, and then I write because he didn't know how to spell or read. Right. And then he was like, let me go over there and take a look. And, like, sometimes we do that just as, like, you know, performative kind of thing. Yeah. Like, it just looks like he's looking at it. And then I just heard him go, the dude went to the pokey shop. He gets two, he just came out of him like fluid.

Yeah. And I was like, dude, dude, dude, dude, you're reading. And he was like, holy shit. Wow. And I was like, what do you attribute that to? And he was like, dude. It's got to be. I've got to be.

I'm a butthole son for two hours this morning. And I was like, we got to get this to the masses. Yeah. It's amazing. To get some sun on their asses. It took me 30 years to get to that point. And who knew that getting sun on your ass would be the... Yeah, no one really knew.

It's kind of a new phenomenon. Yeah. Well, it's good that you're... This is kind of what you do. You bring these kind of like rewards to the people. Yeah. I like when... Did you...

Before you did the show, did you... Would you go to town council meetings and stuff and propose things just on your own? Mm-hmm. Yeah, we've done a bunch, too, that we never released. But we're probably there. like once a week.

Do they, do they, what's their reaction when they see you walk in? You know what's funny is at first they were a little annoyed because I think they felt like we were wasting their time. But then after a while, if you go to those things, they're typically pretty like combative. Right. And we're amongst like the more gentle

of the people who go up there. And sometimes they'll be in trouble. You know, they've done something really wrong. Yeah. And the entire city is like hammering them on it. And then we come up talk about butthole sunning. And while it's probably not on their agenda,

they're happy for a three minute break. Yeah. Do they ever take you seriously and actually, like, have you ever made like a demand? Like, no, this is, we're not kidding.

We're now. You know what they do take seriously? It's not necessarily what we're demanding, but it's our right to demand. Like we've had times where council members have tried to quiet us or shut us down. And then other citizens or even other people on the council, would be like,

they have a right to speak. They get there three minutes. Let them speak. constitutionally protected. I remember one woman did that for us in Delaware when we were protecting people's right to party. And she's like, you have to let them speak. They have a right.

And then after we came off, she said, well, you did have a right. Yeah, because there's a guy, I think, in the first episode who was like, doesn't want to let you guys go. And I got so mad at him because he just embodied that teacher by the book. Yeah, you're not allowed to. I was like, oh, they got to shut that guy down. You did a good job with him. Yeah.

We talked to him in the parking lot afterwards, and we were mildly threatening, and he got the picture. What about the Catalina one when the guys are fighting? Oh, that was in Huntington. Oh, that was Huntington? Yeah. Oh, I thought that was on Catalina. Wasn't that the Schmole? Yeah, we went to Huntington to recruit Schmoles for our Schmull initiative on Catalina.

And, you know, you bring up NFTs around Schmoles and things can get hectic, you know. There's a little competition to be the top expert. Right, right. And, you know, you get dudes at a bar talking to NFTs in Huntington. Just crypto in general. And these are tough times in crypto, too. Yeah, people are on end. You just say Ethereum, and it's like a freaking mosh pit in there.

It's blood in the water with the sharks. Yeah. They all come over swimming. It was also, that's probably a low-key day in Huntington Beach. Yeah. Yeah, for like 2 o'clock on a Tuesday, it typically goes off like that. For those of you don't know, we were selling NFTs in Huntington Beach and two dudes in a bar, got into a fist fight over it.

And they had, they said some of the most, like, colorful original phrases I've ever heard in conversation. Like, the one dude's when he was calling him a bitch, he's like, my balls are bigger than your face. He also said, this isn't CNN. I'll fuck you up. He's the word peasants. Oh, yeah.

Pescent. Were those guys legit, or do you ever use plants or anything? No, those guys, never? Those guys were totally legit. Like, they, Like literally we were just pitching our NFT idea to them and they just started going after it and It's one of those it happens a lot actually with a lot of our stuff. It's like we were like handing out masks in Huntington Beach. That's a separate video from the show, but Yeah, it just sets people off and so but we always sort of stand there as kind of like

You know bouncing you know what's the term like when you're kind of oblivious. Yeah, we're just sort of observe we're like fly on the wall sort of like I guess we started this Right, that's the funniest part of it. Is that you start all this shit and you're just kind of like walk away. Yeah, yeah. Then we just like, well, we have more NFTs to sell. And those guys are just beating each other to asses. We wanted to let them get the energy out. But we were like, guys, don't like actually hurt each other.

Thank you for all the excitement. Yeah, but thanks for that footage. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. How did you guys meet? Doing four-hose beer bong. The Mount Chugmore, you can get on Amazon for $2599. we should do one one time actually i think we i think that go really well i'm going to admit something to you

and i hope it doesn't i mean we'll kind of like we're getting to know each other so we've given the analysis at the end whether we can hang or not um but i'm not going to like hide things from you thank you um uh i think i'm cool in some regards in some regards maybe i won't check up that box off but um i've never uh i've been around them i've uh host of them i've never i've never i've I'd done a beer buying my life. Sorry. Let me just take that in for a second. What do you think

prevented you from trying it? I didn't like the I'm more of a cocktail guy and I was even when I started drinking at 16. I like to kind of like sit there with the glass. So you're sophisticated. I was a little sophisticated with my booze.

Not to say I didn't get like hammered and drink a lot of bad beer. But like in school we would have like Meisterbrow or bush cans. And even with those, I would kind of like swirl it. Do you all admit, I was taken aback when you said you've never done a beer bong before. But the fact that you're being so honest and vulnerable with this, I think actually makes me think you're even cooler. Oh, that's good. And I think we can find a way to bridge like where we're at with our drinking, with yours.

Maybe we do like a beer bong and we do like... We like beer bong in Manhattan or something. That would be cool. Yeah. Is that enough, is that enough liquid? We could throw in like five. Yeah, we'll be shithoused after that. Yeah, yeah.

We'll be rolling. I don't like also when things become a little too, too much of the gang, too much of a trend. Like shotguning beers, right? You know, I think social media kind of blew that. Like every... I like watching. I like watching drunk people doing things and watching girls like shotgun on the wrong end and blast their sisters in the face and stuff like that.

It's all fun. But like when you see everybody doing it, I always tend to like not do it. Yeah, yeah. No, I feel that for sure. I got to say too, though, but your overall vibe, you just come off like you have great taste. Like that shirt I really love. So I can see as a cocktail guy. And I think adding that to our crew is I do think we.

need a little bit more someone who can sort of refine our, you know, jean-se-cois. Right, but not too much. And I was watching one of your clips, one of your, I think it was your podcast, was you were talking about when you like, you kind of get excited to maybe push fashion a little bit further, but then like there's all those pitfalls of like trying too hard or putting too much stuff and that you always kind of like gravitate back to what you always do. Yeah. So, and I was, I totally was feeling that.

Yeah. Especially when I do stand-up. Like, I always want to wear something a little bit that shows them on stage. Right. But he also don't want to be like, I don't want to be like the, um. Like Steve Martin or something like that. Or like Steve Harvey. Right.

Yeah, he puts on those power suits. Right. He really does. It's a lot of fabric. A lot of extra fabric. And they're always like really boxy on the shoulders. They're really big. And he loves it and does it and God bless him.

But I can't all of a sudden like now turn into that guy. Right. You know what I mean? Like when you're... I hear you. Yeah. Like you can't all of a sudden just be, you know, like on the Catalina thing. You guys all of a sudden start wearing bracelets and big glasses.

That was a dark time. Yeah. Because we didn't even realize we were changing. And then, you know, there was no accountability because our buddy Kevin the Schmole who would have talked shit to us about those changes. was gone. And then before you knew it, we were wearing like wraparound glasses and like weird top hats and talking about banging milves. And I was like, hey, something's wrong here, man. Like, I was dressing like Johnny Depp. Yeah. Which I thought was sick until someone showed me a

mirror. And I was sort of starting to get all my senses back together. I looked in the mirror and I just like let out the longest, oh crap you've ever heard. Yeah. You realize. What have I done? Yeah, I was just thinking why you're talking about that too If I just start coming out on stage with like a fedora Right, yeah, like all this is right Yeah, exactly A fedora and the vest What's up, dude?

What's he doing? What happened? I'm actually trying to do that for a show It's just see how good plays. It's like work out of that one too. Yeah, just a bunch of necklaces Yeah, I mean you could Yeah, but it would only work if it was ironic

And then your fans were like kind of, you have to make these, you have to go baby steps. Right. But then again, I did a special once with my pal Rob Zombie and we made it look like the 70s, like show business. And I wore like this velvet jacket from Dave Hill, a comedian Dave Hill. Yeah. And I was, I looked like 70s. I like, and I just got the whole special that way.

Just because we like, well, that's when show business was cool. Right. And they're giving us money. wouldn't we spend it? Let's do it. Yeah. And dancing girls, the whole thing. And it doesn't look like anything I've ever done. It doesn't look like me at all.

But people bring it up all the time because they remember it. Right. Yeah, yeah. Just threw a little bit. So how far can we go? I think it'd be funny to come out with a Netflix special. Here's my Netflix special. Here's a trailer.

It doesn't mean a fedora. And shirtless. Shirtless with a fedora. What? That doesn't sound. bad. There's also something when you look that stupid, you actually feel better when you try to sound smart. It's like the contrast makes it inherently interesting. Yeah, and like never mentioning it. Never bring it up. No, just get straight into some like really granular political stuff while I'm

shirtless with a fedor on. That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because you know, you see some people sometimes talk about passion and they're like, you just have to live life and why should I be ordinary and this is an expression of me. Yeah, that seems good. And then you walk into your girlfriend sees you on your way to your show in like a fur boa. What is happening? Yeah, all it takes is one person to call you out.

And all your momentum's gone. I guess some people can just like power through that. Yeah, yeah. Even something like when I switched to my boots. Right. I remember I came over to your place and you were like, oh, boots. And I remember me and like, I was like, oh, fuck. That happened to me recently.

I went up at the comedy store. I got these new swaying. boots. And I just threw him on and I'm sitting backstage with Sebastian and a couple other people. Sebastian goes on before me. So he introduces me to go on stage. And he goes right to the audience without saying anything to me. This next guy really funny, check out the boots he's wearing. That's tough. What the hell? I remember I, like my first year I moved to L.A. to do stand-up and then I met up with a I came back to I came to hang out with a bunch of my college they all moved to like San Francisco to be in like tech and I came to like hang out with them

and it was like it was sort of like first year I was like I'm going to be a stand-up like I'm going out to be a comedian and then they're like oh okay you know and I'm wearing these big LA boots and I see this guy who I really like thought was cool and looked up he's like nice boots man I just fucking ran it was it a compliment that sounded like a compliment I mean, he's always been really nice to me, but it was kind of like, it was one of those compliments where he's just sort of like, I think he's like a, no, I don't think it was a compliment. No, I don't think it was a compliment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or say something positive, but if there's something neutral, I take that as a, yeah, like, that's even worse than he made fun of for it.

It's like, yeah, right, the funnier one is just boots. Bits. It's like, oh. Yeah, you know, like I fucked up. But I do. They look good, though. Oh, thank you, dude. I like it.

I do feel if you are going to, if you are going to take a swing, only one swing, like just the boots. Like boots and gold chains. It's too much. Yeah, you'll see a friend come back from like a trip or something. Right. Like four like additional articles of clothing that they're wearing. Yeah. And you're like, dude, it's too much.

Right. You're doing too much. You got to chill. Yeah. What are you up to? What's going on with you? Yeah. Yeah.

I almost makes me think they're, the harder you try with your fashion, I kind of start to think you're boring because I'm like, what do you compensate for? Right, right. I kind of want to dress super normal and then be a really weird person because that will surprise them a bit more. Right. But I think a little hint, one little piece that's like, hmm, they might not be all there. Can it just be the manic intensity in my eyes? Yeah, it's doing it. Cool.

Yeah, I think pants are a good way to go. I'm rocking these seersucker. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a good, because I'm wearing my typical tea. Right. And then people see the pants and they're like, wait a minute. Right. Yeah.

And normally the pants are simple in the shirts where you go expression. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is my summer where I'm wearing shirts. Like, this is like the most tame version of. I really like that shirt. It's a little like 50s dad, kind of like, excuse me, I'm trying to do like the uncle who like slips your money on the side.

You know, like, hey, you know, he's 20 bucks. You're all right? Don't do it. Yeah, you're okay, you're okay. You don't want to be here. I'm trying to be that guy this summer. And it's working out pretty well. Because you don't have to, you don't have to do too much. You just got to get shirts that look like this. Looks good. What kind of pants are you wearing? Just straight up pants. It doesn't go with jeans. That character doesn't go with jeans. You have great vans. Look at those vans. They have the checkers around there.

Yeah, the baby checkers. I don't like the big checkers. That's cool. Yeah, I, I, um, it gives me Daniel Craig and Douglas 7 vibes that shirt. Oh, nice. Yeah. He has that, his style in the James Bond movies is like, I think that's sort of the gold standard for dudes right now. Yeah, but a lot of suits. A lot of suits, but then when he's more casual wear, it's like, it emphasizes his arms and stuff. Right. He's just very sort of like, I'm in Italy with this lady and you know, we're phoning and then driving him my ass to Martin, you know, it's like that's. Yeah. That's, yeah, that's something to aim for.

I should have gone for that. I was looking at Rodney Dangerfield casual. Oh, nice. Another sexual icon. Yeah, right. Exactly. He wears a lot of, and you know what's kind of interesting? I just noticed because I watched Jackass Forever the other night. And what's his name?

Johnny? Johnny. He dresses a little like Rodney. He has like the cardigan. Oh, yeah. He's got the cardigan with the, and he wears cons, but he's got a little Rodney to him, which is kind of interesting. Yeah.

You know? It might be coming back. Yeah, maybe it is coming back. Do you like having Johnny on your corner with the fashion? Or do you feel like there's only room for one? No, he's his own thing. I feel like he's... You think there's the other part of fashion is that sometimes you think, oh, I'm going to

look like that guy. Like when I put on a suit and do stand up in a suit, I'm like, I look like Carrie Grant. And then people are like, oh, you look like you sell insurance. So I could dress like not. And, like, think I'm doing it, but it's not going to be the same guy. He's got such a cool. Everything's, like, perfect.

Yeah, I saw that good-looking actor from Matchpoint on the cover of, like, Esquire one time. And I went out to, like, Express and bought his exact same outfit. When I put it on, it looks so horrendous. I don't think I can wear a light sport coat. That was kind of the deal breaker for me. He was wearing, like, a white jacket. And it just did not play on my frame. When I got one of my first headshots,

I was living in New York and Springsteen was having a moment. Which album? I don't know. Maybe it was born in the USA or whatever it was after that. Is he really? Yeah. He's amazing. And I was like, well, Bruce wears vests.

I'm going to wear a vest for my headshot. But Bruce is Bruce. And Bruce wore like a leather vest that looked like he'd worn it for 50 years. And mine was like felt. All of his clothes look like that too. It looks like he spent a couple days in him. He's great with that. I remember I went to boarding school in Connecticut.

Oh, yeah. And then coming from California, I was like obsessed with the East Coast because my brother was 12 years older than me. So he was in Wall Street and stuff. So I was like, I was sort of like, I was really into like that whole culture as like an eighth grader. And so in eighth grade, I was like, I got to start dressing like these Connecticut guys. So I got like, what cost. you know, like pink lacrosse and like pop the collar and stuff. And I looked so absurd.

I was all pastels. And you know, in California. Everyone's like, what the fuck? I'm going Connecticut dudes. And as soon as I got to Connecticut, I was like, I got to get back to California. I know. I know. We all start to look exactly alike.

It's so weird. It's so tribal, isn't it? Yeah. Like I see it with my daughters. Like all of a sudden they're just like, I think she's just dressing that way. And all of a sudden she has a party and 20 of them. walk in and they all have like the exact same hair, the exact same stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. How old is she? Uh, she's 17. Oh, that's crazy. My other one's 20. Wow. Yeah. So she out of the

house. Yeah. Is that weird when one leaves and with me and my brother, my brother was more shy than me. So when I moved out, my parents said his personality like really blossomed because it's so loud. And then yeah, with me gone and not taking up all their like supervision needs because I was always in trouble. They were like, it's crazy how much like we're seeing his personality and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have that at all? We did have that. We did have that. I had to, uh, I had to tell, take her on the side though and say, when people ask like, how is it having your sister gone? You can't say it's great. At least say I miss her, but I'm having a good time. I'm adapting. You're just like, yeah, this is pretty great.

It's all me. So what's your situation? You're both dating, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I started dating my girlfriend. And we met New Year's Day. This year?

This year. And then she just moved it. It's pretty, it was one of those instances where you sort of like meet each other. And you're like, whoa. Like, this is it. So it's been really fun and special. We're on New Year's Day. A Zad show, is DJ?

Who's in the show? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That DJ. So he had a show at Exchange in downtown L.A. And I don't really go to shows that often. So it was sort of like J.T. hit me up about it. Like that night, I wasn't planning on going out.

I didn't even really want to. I was like, I'm going to spend New Year's Day. Yeah, I'm just going to stay and watch a movie. Went out. And then, yeah, so it was pretty sort of like a cosmic thing. Wow. Interesting. How do you like the scene?

I know, because I'm not a part of it at all, parties that are just straight DJ? It's really fun because they play the hits. So they're not just playing their own songs. They're playing like the top 40s. My only thing is that sometimes they'll get a little too quick with ending a song because they're trying to show off their, I don't know, like whatever they curated.

But for the most part, it's fun. And with Zed, we're kind of friends with him. That's really cool. And yeah, so he gives us like, I'll get to stand behind him and I get to pretend like I'm DJing, which is a nice feeling. Oh, that's cool. I was on a lot of mushrooms that night when Chad met his beloved, and I was behind just like pretending like I was orchestrated in the audience.

It was a good sensation. It is pretty cool. Yeah, it was fun. Can you see the talent? Does he do something that other people couldn't do? Like, if you were to get, like, if you were to stay at home with your laptop and put together an hour and a half of music, I think that you can really see it in the artistry and the way he sort of connects the songs and the flow and stuff.

He really has a really strong sense of how to keep the audience sort of engaged and to make it flow and to, you know, sort of the ups and down. So you're really kind of engaged the entire time, whereas some people, I think, would just do kind of song to song to song. But I think he's so musically gifted and that he just has like a good sense of like, how to really engage the audience. I've been pessimistic about that stuff too. Like, I've been to DJ shows. I'm like, they just hit play on like their iPod or whatever. But then like we had to speak at,

he let us speak at one of his concerts and go up on stage and talk. And like, I didn't realize that he's like being held accountable for how much the club is making in sales at like every given moment. So they were like, we can only give you a minute and a half. Because in that minute and a half with the beat gone and the music not bumping, we're going to lose 15 grand man and so like every second is kind of accounted for in terms of like what it's doing to the audience

and what that's doing to like their habits and like liquor sales and like keeping you on the dance floor so I think it is like a bit more complicated than I probably gave it credit for. I'm not sure if it's like at the level you know when people would be like oh I could paint a Jackson Pollock and then you're like no no no no no there's a lot of detail in there you don't see. I'm not sure if it's on that level but it's more difficult

than I think people give it credit for for sure. Wow that's amazing. I read a thing or heard a thing that I was like, why? It was a certain moment. It's like, I don't know, 10 years ago, all of a sudden, the volume of every place went up. Like bars, you know, I was like, as comedians, you just want to be able to hear each other talk. That's like your best nights are like, I just want to, we want to be able to make each other laugh. And all of a sudden, we're everywhere we're going.

It's like pumped up, pumped up. And they said that the, the, uh, The science behind it, like you're saying, is that the louder it is and the more difficult it is to hear each other, the more insecure you get and the more you drink. Yes. The more breaks you need. And the one place to go is to the bar and you have to drink. That's so true. I totally, because I've always been pretty shy. Yeah. And so especially when it's loud. And I always had a quiet voice. When it's loud, I'm just like, I just crank those white claws. I'm like, just get tossed.

And the volume kind of beats you into submission. Like you're like, please stop and it just keeps hitting you and you're like all right fine whatever you need I'll get drunk yeah yeah all that I had to handle you make the Timberland stop give me some relief please quiet the noise oh god Neo's coming on I'm good who wants shots dude I didn't know that that's really interesting yeah it makes total sense it does well no one can hear me so screw it yeah yeah drinking that's like the great lie of like bars and movies is they're always well lit and the music's relatively low right everyone can talk and see each other And I'm like, I've never been in a bar like that.

I know. And the ones that you are, you're like, how are they making money? Yeah, everyone looks like a mutant in there. You're like, give me out of here. But I love that. Like, even when I was in school, my buddies and I would always go to places that look like they should have been closed 10 years ago. Like one old guy at the bar, someone eating pickled eggs, like in old juke bucks. Yeah.

I just love those hangs so much more. Yeah, the divey. Yeah, the divey. Yeah. Yeah. I need the action. You need the action? I need the action.

You do? For me, the juices, the action. Yeah, I need to be bouncing off each other. I think my favorite, my favorite in terms of drinking is if it's a day drinking thing with your buddies, sort of like a brunch ordeal. Yeah. Not the biggest fan of brunch, but just day, you know, you're out like the Venice Whaler or something. Right.

And you're just cranking brews at like 1 p.m. That is a good one. That's nice. Yeah. I know. I know it was just a scene from your show, but just seeing you two at the, at like a wooden picnic table with coronas. I was just like salivating. Really?

Totally. There's just something about it. I mean, seeing alcohol and anything on film is always like hearing the glass with the ice. Yeah. But just seeing those two coronas are like, I have to do that. Really? Yeah. That's the best part about making something is like the accidental things that come through.

Right. Yeah. Like there's only one review of the show out right now and it's Richard Roper. And he said the Corona was a subtle commentary on the obvious product placement of Corona and Fast and Furious. Oh, really? And I don't want to take that away from our show, but we were definitely just drinking Corrine.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But there is that thing. Like whenever you, whenever you, not whenever, but a lot of times when you hear of like great moments and great stuff like Steve Martin's book, like all of his memorable stuff were mistakes. It was actually. You're planning all this other stuff.

Yeah. And then these other things happen that just become like iconic. Yeah. It's weird. That happens. I think there's an Orson Wells quote where he says like the director is just, a person who presides over the mistakes or something like that. Yeah.

That's our show for sure. Fuck yeah. Yeah. I always think too, it's like when you try so hard to sort of have like a commentary or a message that you're trying to put forward. Yeah. Oftentimes it can feel too forced, but if you're sort of just doing something that you like that you think is fun that you enjoy, your subconscious creates that kind of commentary

and that message that the audience just picks up themselves. You're subconscious when you're. you're creating it? Yeah, just when you're creating it. I mean, I think you should have some direction in terms of what you're trying to say and stuff. But, you know, I think a lot of times, basically with the mistakes and stuff, it's like, especially with our stuff, people have taken their own, the way they interpret it is they

draw their own sort of like commentary from it. And I think a lot of that has to do with just sort of, if you're enjoying the work and having fun, I think then it creates something that people can sort of, you know, interpret for themselves. Does that make sense? No, totally. I was thinking about that just the other day that there's, when people are spoon fed something and you tell them this is exactly what I'm trying to say. Yeah. It's less powerful than if you give them less and they fill it in and paint it themselves. Yeah. I'm not sure how much you can dictate your subconscious, you know, flowing to them in a way. Yeah.

But it's almost like less is more. Like if you can, you can, you know, you're subconscious, you know, flowing to them in a way. Yeah. Like if you can just not tell them every single line of this or just give them like, you know, you'll tell a joke sometimes. Yeah. And it's, you know, a joke about, you know, and walked into the store and this alligator was, you know, walking down the aisle. Everyone who's hearing that is going to have a different interpretation of they're going to paint it differently. You know what I mean? And if you get real specific and then tell them how they're supposed to feel about it and all the rest of it, it's not going to be as rich. Those are my favorite kind of jokes, too, where you're not quite sure why they work, but they do work.

but they do work. I'll listen back to a set. And it's a joke I've been doing for years, but I'll still listen to it. I'm like, I have no idea why that connects, but there's just enough, like, things there that combine into a sort of salient idea

that everyone's laughing. Yeah, it's weird. I'll ask my wife that sometimes. I'm like, I don't know why that's funny. Yeah. She's like, what? You don't know? I mean, it's because, no,

that's not what I'm thinking when I'm saying it. Yeah, it's better. It's better to be creating from that place, I think. Yeah. But then it's hard to plan for. That's the thing. What we're talking about. is you're talking about mistakes and we can kind of try and pin why those things are

flowing from your subconscious but you can't really be in control of it or else you're going against what we're saying yeah if you have a crew of 40 people showing up and turning on their cameras and stuff and then you're like we're just going to find it through our instincts yeah no it doesn't work that's why those moments like whenever they try and film comedians backstage like they try to like at the comedy seller like to capture the magic of the table where all the comics are hanging out those they never work they just never work yeah

I'm trying to think I used to love watching those shows like when I first started stand up green room with like Paul Prevenza was on TV yeah or like tough crowd I guess was like a good example that felt like a little bit

yeah that got close that got close but you always hear people talk about the comedy seller like table yeah and you've been there so like does it feel different like is it as special

as people say it is oh it was yeah for sure I'm sure it is for a new generation but when I was there like in those yeah it was insane it was just the smartest, funniest people you could find. Yeah.

Just all there. Would your anxiety be high when you were there? In the beginning, until you're made, you know? Right. When it's like any kind of social thing. Like when you first show up, you're just trying to be a part of it and not get destroyed and then they destroy you. And then you come back and then over time, you know, it's like hazing, you know?

Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, yeah. But still, I mean, it's still like back to the fashion thing. If I put on a weird shirt in New York and I know I'm going into the cellar, I'm nervous. I'm nervous putting it on in my hotel or apartment because you're like, oh, if Keith Robinson sees me or Colin Quinn, I'm dead. They're done. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. Do you, when you're hanging around, especially when you're younger, when you're hanging around comedians, did you feel, especially like if you got like that table, for example, do you feel like a.

need to sort of tell jokes and like be purposely funny or what was your approach? No I mean that was for my personal approach it was yeah like you you don't want to be invisible yeah you know but you also don't want to push right but it's also it kind of like sharpens all of that in a way yeah you know what I mean because there's nothing the greatest moments or when somebody really takes a swing and puts a joke out there and it bombs yeah yeah and then everybody's just like oh I love when like someone would interrupt and be like, no, wait a minute. Can we just sit in the silence of what Chad just said? Let's just take that.

Yeah. It's, you know, it's actually a really good just way to kind of know yourself. You know, because some guys would get there. Like Patrice would just sit there and hold court and just be loud and rip everybody apart. Yeah. If I were to walk in and try and do that, it would be. horrible. Yeah.

So you just know yours is more like, you know, a little more laid back and quietly mean. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you kind of know your, your social speed in a way. Like, man, Papa was tearing into everyone last night. He was so loud. He was just screaming.

Call me an asshole. Why is he wearing those boots? So how long have you two been together creatively? Seven years? Yeah. Oh, wow. Six or seven years? Yeah.

Six or seven years. It was fun because we reconnected in L.A. doing stand-up. And it was like, I don't know what like the prevailing comedy style was, but it was more alt, you know. And we were kind of the only two bros there. So it kind of made sense for us to link up. Yeah. And we're like very similar, but we have like... Where was it when it was all?

It was mostly like open mics, but it was all like on the east side, like lyric Hyperion and... Yeah. Hyperion Tavern and Hyperion Tavern. Hyperion Tavern, yeah. Onobino. Yeah, places like that. And it was really fun. I mean, it was, you know, you'd be doing like three mics a night.

And then you needed buddies to like sign you up or to hang out with. Yeah. Yeah, we just became friends. And like the moment we started working together, it was crazy because I had only known failure. Like everything, like everything I tried. Yeah. And I was okay with it. I kept trying.

But like, I would just bomb or make a video and no one would watch it. I tried to get a show. It wouldn't happen. And then like the moment we linked up, like the first thing we tried to do was get a show at the Hollywood Improv. And yeah, the guy just immediately was like, yeah, this sounds great. And it's kind of been... Right.

Yeah. You know, we've had struggles and things not go and, like, you know, we've had to learn. But for the most part, it's been pretty much like green lights. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. It's like this chemistry we weren't even really aware of that people, you know, if we're doing scenes too, even if we're like, we just aren't feeling it that day.

And then people are like, man, the chemistry is just... And we're like, I guess. I've had days where we were like, we were both like actively in bad moods. And people were like, dude, you guys were killing it. The vibes were immaculate. Yeah. I think when our sensibilities came together, it's just sort of like, I don't know. It's just because I was starting to do, you know, these videos and stuff.

And it's just like, it was like there's something there, but it was missing something as well. And then when J.T. came in the picture, it just sort of completed everything. Right. Then we sort of linked up and started doing them together. And then it just started to, you know, gain momentum. Is there anything like in the beginning of a relationship when you're like, you start dating someone, you're like, oh, let's, you just kind of clock her behavior. Like, oh, she does that.

She chooses with her mouth open. That's cute. And then you know, like, in 10 years, if we stay together, that's going to drive me crazy. One thing, like he squids my fist palms. He squids it like that. That's probably the only thing. He's an like altogether lovely person. Oh, thanks, man.

And then like the work relationship changed because like when I first started, I was like more behind the scene. So I was more like concerned about like the writing and the directing and stuff. And then and then Chad really like grew leaps and bounds that way too. And then I started being more on camera. So it's like it's interesting. Like if one of us is tired, the other one has energy that day. If one of us is stressed out about the show like with the show coming out,

it was when you were anxious first and I was chill about it. And then the day I got anxious about it. I called Chad. I was like, bro, I'm so anxious about the showcoming. He's like, bro, I'm relaxed. It's like, it's kind of caused me. Yesterday it switched again. Oh, really?

You called me. We were on the phone. I was like, dude, I'm terrified. And he's like, I feel great. It really does feel like. It's cool, though. It's something moving around above us. Yeah.

I'm not quite aware of. It's cool that you have that, that you do have someone you can actually call and say that, you know, because we're always so isolated. You're always like, you're, like, you're. stand-up special or whatever and you can't really say to it you can say it to people but they won't know with like you're actually in it together yeah it's pretty great yeah there's something comedians like it's there's certain stuff that only comics you really understand like you try to talk to like your girlfriend or something be like yeah I'm nervous about the show or even like a stand-up show

like yeah she'll like was like coming to a show and I was like I'm nervous for this one she's like why and I'm like that's too much to explain looking like a doofus in front of you i don't know like there's like a million reasons yeah a million reasons yeah maybe i eat something weird and i'm just my stomach's weird right now it's affecting my mood i have no idea yeah it's nice too because we hang with other comedians but we really

don't hang as much as like a lot of our friends do like they're like at the store every night or like you know like it's mostly just us and then a couple other comedian buddies who are like in our little universe are you a big hang guy no no i was in new york because it was just so comfortable and it's right there, but I never got, the hangs out here were always more awkward. It's weirder out here?

Yeah, like you sit at the bar in the front of the comedy store. Yeah, you're like totally exposed to like sunset. Yeah, and it's just kind of weird. And also, you know, I have a family and there's a lot of, so it's like I go do my set, see a couple of people I want to see on my way out. Yeah, I think we're trying to get on that train. Yeah. I think I'm going to try and post it.

about some kids and do that whole thing. Yeah, it'll be exhausting. Nice. I got lots of energy. I like hang, but I actually check myself sometimes and I'm like, just hang a little longer than you want to. Right. Yeah. Just a little bit longer because it's great being around comics. And then all of a sudden you just run into someone and I ran into Neil Brennan in the parking lot the other night. And it was like, just talked for like 20 minutes, but it was just so great. Like I had to, that for the rest of the week. Yeah. Because like you said, like only comedians can relate to the stuff we were talking about.

Totally. Yeah. It's pretty valuable. The squitting the fist bump is hilarious because especially out in the world, like when people are doing that trying not to be germy. Yeah. The idea of it, so you would just grab their hand. You know, I didn't even think about that.

That makes it funny. Yeah, we have on set. Hey, we're going to contact, but we're not going to. term. I didn't think about that because we were on set and it was like, you know, when Delta was a big thing. Yeah. And so I was squitting everyone.

And now the, and we were so, you know, just like, no one get COVID, no one get COVID. Yeah. And now I'm like, oh, fuck. I was just squitting everything. Yeah. Just touch it. Yeah. That must have been, yeah, that was a hassle having to deal with all the COVID part of it.

Are you going to, you think you'll shoot again or I guess you'll find out. Yeah. I mean, that was tough shooting during COVID. Like it made everything a little bit, you know, we had to be more careful. We had to prep people more before they were on camera and stuff like that. But we're hoping if we get a season two, which I think we will, but knock on wood. We'll shoot in in Florida where there are no rules and there's no such thing as COVID. Yeah, that'd be really smart.

Yeah. You were saying you like Miami. Yeah, Miami, yeah. I think it'd be cool to shoot there. Yeah, before it goes underwater. Yeah. You're worried about the water thing. I am worried about the water thing.

I don't understand why people aren't freaking out about the water thing. Yeah, well, we might do like a city council speech on it. We think they should just like turn the L.A. River into a real L.A. river. But we don't mean it for water. We mean it more just so people can tube and stuff like that. Right. Lazy river. Just put lazy in front of it.

People will be on board. More people are tubing than AC use goes down and that, you know, helps out the power grid and then it knows what else. You do? I do. I don't feel like you'd be a tube guy. I tube like a total cubor, really. Yeah. I tubed east coast of it.

It's gnarly. There's these giant rocks. I broke a rib once going down like a waterfall, getting hit. Another time I tubed when there was no water and we had to like just walk it and drag our tube. You just had some bad tubing experiences. Yeah, horrible. Yeah. It's totally fair that you would feel that.

Yeah. I don't know if there's any great tubing experiences. I think if we, I think we, the L.A. River would be a good tubing experience, except for the dirty water. Yeah. Yeah. We should, I wish we haven't thought about that part, so.

Where do we get the water, though? From the Bellagio. That would be cool. They're just pumping in. They're not doing anything with it. They don't really care. Yeah, no, I've already seen that water show. Look, let's move it somewhere else where it's needed.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm a little freaked out by the water thing. I'm just watching these reports of these major Colorado River and these Lake Mead and, I mean, they're all going they're all like at the bottom and it's from like excess heat and stuff like that excess heat and no rain I mean when they say it's the worst drought in a thousand years really yeah and it's like well I think we got to get out of here yeah no I think you're smarter than us I don't understand why people aren't like I don't know why there's not like a freeway filled with you all it's just like heading east I mean that's like

like incredible thing about humans is like we can just like ignore the world being on fire like right outside our house. I know. It's a pretty, it's incredible how yeah ignorant we can be to like what's right in front of us. I think it's also we just take in so much information that when I like in my dumb brain when I hear like water problem like oh it's just another fucking thing. And right. Yeah. Yeah. Amongst like nine other things that are like existential threats. Right. Yeah. I don't know how to rank them. Yeah. I know. And then I yeah, then I then I start doing. the time of it. It's like, well, you know, when's it going to happen? Are we talking 60 years? Because then pretty much not my problem. It's like when they say, like, you know, this will cause, if you

eat too many cheese it's, it'll cause cancer after 50 years of eating them. It's like, well, I don't know if I have 50 more years of eating cheese it's. Yeah. Start for a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like, because a lot of my friends are like, I don't know if I want to have. kids because they're going to inherit this earth that is like, damn, it's going to be like apocalyptic. And I'm always like, well, you just make your kid believe that they can fix it.

Like, just put like optimism into them. Totally. And maybe they could figure it out. Totally. Which is like kind of naive, but I also think like, what's your other option?

No, I believe that 100%. We might, you know, quit. Yeah, exactly. Is there a chance that my daughters will have to deal with, you know, a worse drought and famine and stuff?

There's a possibility for sure, but they also might be part of, figuring out how to live more simply and being involved in a way that humans will prevail. We actually really put that into effect when we were planning on having a baby or making a baby and we had just gotten married and 9-11 happened. And it literally felt like, oh, the world is effed. Like this is the beginning of the end. Like there's going to be terrorist attacks every five minutes now.

Like this is, we really felt like an impending, like it's hard to explain like how, who's before or after, right? Like that thing. And, um, uh, and we were thinking about having a baby and was like, do we make a baby and bring it into this world that's, might be slipping into the apocalypse? And our philosophy was, yeah, we, we have to make more good guys. Exactly. That's what I say.

We need more good guys. Of course we're going to make a baby. Put up our side. Yeah. We're not going to even talk about this. Let's go. And neither of your daughters have joined Al Qaeda or anything like that. Not that I know, but I don't think you would know.

Right. You know what I mean? You just think she's moody and just sitting in her room. Right. It makes you not go in there. Yeah, you never know. I feel like she'd bring it up once at dinner just to like rebel a little bit. Just so you know.

I'm an al-Qaeda now. Just. And we'd be like, oh, God. We're getting ready for bed at night. Did you hear that? Al-Qaeda shit she was there. She's just trying to make you mad. She knows how she does this.

It's normal. It's a phase. She'll outgrow it. It's not going to stay radicalized. Why is she going to Home Depot so much? Buying all these products? Yeah, I remember that. I was in like fifth grade, but I remember that because my brother lived in New York

during the time of the wall street. Yeah, so I was like, I was convinced there's going to be a nuke. Like every day, I was just sort of waiting by that. I was terrified. Yeah. So you felt that. How old were? I was in fifth grade.

So what was that? Oh, I was 11 during 9-11. So you did it. Yeah. Dude, yeah. That's probably, that's actually the, my friend was nine. It's a huge spoiler in the show. All congeniture.

Chad was not a part of that. My friend was nine. I was 11. So I remember 9-11. And then 24, do you ever watch 24? The second season, he stops a nuke. And so I just was like, my whole life was like, oh, dude, they're coming. During those two or three years, I was like, they're coming, they're on their way.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is a weird thing with the Ukraine and my daughter was just like absorbing the nuclear threat. And it's such a funny thing that you have to like teach them like, yeah, the whole place. could technically be obliterated in an afternoon. But don't think about it. Right. Yeah.

But let's just keep going. But it's just life and death, I guess. But it is a weird thing as being the parent until, I remember being so arrogant when I was in fifth grade. There was something flared up with Iran. And something was going down and they were talking about nuclear stuff. And I remember telling my parents, if a bomb comes, and we could like see Manhattan,

we could see the skyline from our town, you know. And I was like, if a bomb comes, I'm going on the roof and I'm just going to lay there and be like, I'll just take it. I don't want to be here when it's over. I'm like just walking out of the room with a cigarette. I'm just thinking of like my parents being like, what the hell is he talking about? Yeah, that cool devil-made care.

Yeah, I'm bringing on. I'll just take it right in the face. Yeah, you sound like a cool nine-year-old. I want to hang out with you today. So stupid. So you think he'll have kids? It won't mess up your partying, though. You know, it never slowed my parents down.

It did? My parents party like crazy. Yeah, they were good parents. Like, you know, they were wild, but they were always present and stuff like that. So what was it like when you were a teenager, when you were? They let me throw huge parties. I'd get in trouble sometimes. But, like, we even did like a combo New Year's party that was like a wild one.

Oh, yeah. And it was like 50 of their friends. and like 50 of my friends. And their attitude towards your drinking? They were cool about it. Like they would always, they were like, they were like the cool parents

where like you could come drink at our house just don't like drive home afterwards and stuff. But yeah, they were always probably too mellow. Like I got arrested once for like getting into a fight and like, I don't even think they grounded me afterwards. Oh really?

They were like, don't be an idiot again. I was like, I'll do my best. All right, yeah. That's pretty cool. And every time they got mad at me afterwards, they'd be like, but we know you're a good kid. I don't know why they thought,

I guess just because they're my parents. Yeah. They always had like a undefeated, like, belief in my soul. Yeah, which was very nice. And it worked out. I guess, yeah. They were right. Yeah.

Because I try and take that attitude with them. And, uh, but I'm nervous about like somebody doing something stupid and getting it. You know, God forbid a kid were to crash on their way home from your house. Yeah. It'd be emotionally horrible, economically horrible. Mm-hmm. You know, it's just that part of it. My daughter just hosted a party party the other night.

and all their friends get security to like check people on the list. Oh, that's smart. Really? Yeah, because they'll Snapchat it. Someone will on Snapchat, they can see where everyone's hanging. And then they just descend on wherever that is. Interesting. Yeah.

That happened to me a couple times. Like my address would get posted online and I would have to like, I would just hide all the belongings and like just like party proof the house. And I was like, there's too much momentum. I can't stop. And so I just let everybody come. And then at a certain point I'd like call the cops on my own party and get these guys out of here.

Oh, really? Yeah, because it'd be like 30-year-olds. When we were like 16, I was like, this is insane. Yeah, I know, because the party wrapped up, like, at 1130. And someone else in her group had a party the week before, and I know it went on to, like, one or two in the morning, and there was cops and kids throwing up. And it was like, oh, because those parents let them drink,

so the party was kick ass, so no one went home. Ours is like, yeah, that was nice, and 11.30. Yeah, you need both. I'm going to turn in. Sounds good. Yeah. All right. So let's review our hang status.

I feel like you guys are, you have a good optimistic spirit. I think we line up that way. I think you might party more than I do, but just it's probably an age thing. I mean, probably the same amount of days, but maybe you go harder on those days. Sounds about right. Right. What have you observed? I don't think.

I think we're rock-solid connection, so I think it's just finding the right venue. Right. Like, we saw you at the golf course, but you weren't playing that day, right? No, I was just doing the radio show from there. Right, you were doing like commentary. Yeah. Did you guys roll through? We did, yeah.

You complimented my drive. Yeah. I don't remember. It meant a lot to me. Oh, yeah, I remember. I think, too, I think there's certain strengths that you have that you can bring to our squad. You know, like you're tasting cocktails and sense of style and stuff. I think that could really sort of level us up.

Right. To sort of, I think right now we're sort of scrappy bros. Right. You know, sort of rag tag like the crew in Armageddon, you know. But I think you could be that kind of William figure. McNer. Colonel Sharp. But like a cool version.

Right. Yeah, you wouldn't turn on us at the 11th hour. Right. But you bring a deep wisdom and knowledge. I hope not.

You don't think. You don't think. Don't do it, dude. What are you doing with a gun in space? Give them one more second, man. Yeah, I think you've got a captain the ship and tell us what the hang is.

And then we're adaptable. We'll play by whatever parameters you want us to be inside of. There is a clock ticking if you're really thinking about having kids. Because that's, I don't know, you really understand what it's going to do to. Oh, I have no idea. But I try not to think about things like that too much.

No, you can't. You just got to go for it. Yeah, people try to be like logical about stuff. I'm like, good luck with that, dude. Yeah, I know exactly. I don't know if it's the right time. I don't know if we make enough money. Just shut up.

Just do it. Just go. Just throw caution. You want to do it. It's got to work out. Yeah, if you were to book about any president, they don't think about shit. Yeah. Yeah.

They're just like, I just fucking went and did it. Yeah, just go and do it. Do you ever have that thinking? Because you guys are kind of on our day philosophers. Whenever you see people, especially now on social media, you'll see clips of like Jim Carrey talking or Sylvester Stallone or whatever. And they're like, you just got to think it and you make it happen. You know, Jim Carrey's, I saw it.

You're manifesting? Yeah, the manifesting. Yeah. It's this crazy sense of, do you think that we all have that and do you use it? I'm way into that stuff. Yeah. I do think it's, you know, I think if you have a positive sort of self-image of like yourself and what you can achieve in the future, I think that does sort of help you to reach that place to sort of, because I think, I think a lot of it too is sort of understanding or feeling like you can reach your full potential and sort of build yourself up to a person who can achieve those things. And also, I have crystals and all that. I have like a, I have like a, vision board and stuff.

Nice. What's on the board this year? Do you do it yearly? Yeah, I do a yearly. I have a golden retriever on there. I have Newport Beach. I have, I had donuts on there, which is crazy. Yeah.

Look at that. Donuts from dads. I'm a bit more skeptical about all that stuff, but then his vision board when I first saw it, he ended up knocking out like 12 of the 15 things on there. Really? Like in a pretty tight stretch of time. Really? All right.

So for me, I'm like, if you are a more skeptical person, that's fine. But you should still be in line with optimist people who believe in like manifest. Especially if they're your partner. Yeah. You can always look and be like, no, that's not real. But yeah, keep doing it, please. Yeah. Yeah, I always, I believe in it too.

I definitely believe in positive thinking and moving to our, your goals are just being a better person. I always have the doubt creeps in a little bit on the specificity of it. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because there's been like I'd had like a TV show or something. Yeah. And then like we shoot the pilot and whatever.

And it's like I'm putting all I got into it. I'm thinking, I'm manifesting this wholeheartedly. Yeah. And then it craps out at the end. Right. And it's like, did I do something wrong? How did I? That's brutal.

Right. I think, yeah, I think too. I think it's, I think it's sort of like you got to like, from what I understand with all that stuff, it's like you got to like have the idea. of what you want, maybe not too specific, so you're like, really focusing on it. Yeah. But sort of like create that idea and sort of like put it in your mind, but also forget it, if that makes sense.

So you're not, I think when you're so sort of like, you know, just white knuckling it, where you're like, I got to get. Yeah, that's one thing. You know, I got to keep thinking positively about that. I think that's counterproductive. Right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like whether it's professional or relationship or anything, if you're like gripping it too tight. Yeah. Yeah. You're not really enjoying any of it. Yeah. You're kind of just scared. Yeah, right, exactly.

And you don't even think that you think you're doing something positive, but you're probably destroying it. Yeah, you're kind of cannibalizing you in it. Yeah. What's your use of weed philosophy on weed? You said drop mushrooms before. I spoke weed. I go like, and I probably smoked,

I didn't last week because I, if I do it too many days in a row, I get into a bad mood. Yeah, makes you moody, right? Yeah, and then I did it like three days in a row last week, but that was after like a week of not doing it. So I don't know, I do tend to like do things in like sprints. And because like, well is not well enough for me. I got to do like a little too much.

But I'm pretty self-aware and I'm like, okay, I'm feeling a little like shaky and I'm not like excited to do. I can kind of tell if I've done it too much if I'm not excited to do things. Right. Like I'll have a podcast or a stand-up setting them like, I fucking hate those things. I'm like, you've probably been drinking and smoking too much weed. You're cranky.

Yeah, exactly. It might just be cranky, bro. But I do think, I do think, like, weed and shrooms, like, can't help me with creativity. But I don't ever want to be dependent on them because then it's, like, it's just not sustainable. How about you? I don't really smoke that much. It gives me anxiety. Yeah.

So I like to watch people do it. You know, I like to see J.T. rip a fat bong load. Right. You know, and just hit a dab or something. I'll be like, is that sativa? You know, I'll try to name strains and stuff. Right. Oh, dude, that's purple cloud, huh?

You know? And it's, so that's how I, that's my philosophy. Right. Just to watch people and cheer them on. Yeah. What about you? I used to do it a lot and then I wasn't as funny on it. I found that I was, I wasn't as funny.

I wasn't as sharp. Even when I wasn't doing it, it was just things were a little fuzzier. I just lost a beat. And, uh, and was lazy. Like, like, you know, wake up in the morning you're like, I don't feel like doing this. Yeah, just crabby. Yeah.

And I was like, this isn't, it's not as joyful as it was when I was first doing it with my friends and stuff. So if I'm not getting that joy that early, that out of it, then why? And it's bothering my work. Why should I do it? But now that everything's legal and opened up, I definitely, I buy it from time to time. And I always want to. It's kind of like my philosophy with video games.

It's like I see people playing video games and they look like they're having so much fun. I'm like, I want to do that. I'm like, I don't know this time. Just doesn't want to me. It's like video games, comic books. Like they all look like great. People are really enjoying wine or not.

Same with weed. It's like, it may have passed. Makes sense. But I would burn one for sure when we hang. Oh, down. Yeah, super down for that. You guys are great. Congratulations on the show.

Oh, thanks, man. I don't know. I'll leave it to you. how you're going to take the donuts home because it's only one box we can probably get you a bag or bring to my family yeah his brothers are in town yeah oh really well one is the other one is flight got canceled he's really bummed it's such a bummer where was he he's in new york and his flight got canceled he's in new york yeah they got weather there no you know airlines are just that random well yeah and lately i don't know if you know it yeah i think they're understaffed from covid

a hundred percent and so they like we're just delaying it you know they're like the plane was late and the plane was there and they just kept holding them and then the the crew timed out yeah that's what's happened yeah and you're like it's crazy i know and then you land someplace finally you get there and then there's no crew to unload the bags yeah i'm always sort of like they yeah yeah yeah i'm more about my kids inhabiting that world than the water one the slightly inconvenient world yeah i'm like yeah it's like travel sucks right now dude yeah yeah you might not get to exist yeah yeah i was son's going to deliver in two days. What the F. Sorry, kids. No way. Two days. Well, it was really great hanging with you guys. This has been our whole day. I know. We got to do the

Netflix show this morning. We got to do this. And I think we've done enough. It's time to get out of here. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate having us. We got it, Aaron. All right, everybody. That's the big show. I told you you were going to enjoy it. So funny. We'll have them on again. We'll definitely do more things. Maybe I'll head over to their podcast. I don't know. I got to bake them bread. I have to make good on that promise. The donuts are good, but, you know, it's not as heartfelt as a loaf of bread. So more to come. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll see you next time.