Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 121 - Sam Morril

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

The hilarious Sam Morril talks about his new Netflix Special 'Same Time Tomorrow' and ate half his bread by the time he left the table. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, don't you know? Hey, it's also a show. Hey. Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. I'm Tom Papa. We've got an amazing show for you today. We've got the very funny Samarelle coming on. You're going to love this conversation.

He's a great guy, super funny. He's got a new special coming out on Netflix called Same Time Tomorrow's. tomorrow. He's a great guy, and I was so happy to spend some time with him. He also gave me some booze, which you'll see. Very exciting. We'll get to all that in a minute. Today's show is sponsored by tompapa.com. No way. We've got a bunch of shows coming up. I'm doing a run in California from Sin Louis Obispo up to Monterey, up to Chico. And that's coming up in the end of September, shooting my Netflix special on October 1st at the Wilbur Theater in Boston. Still a couple tickets left for the late show for that.

And all over the place, a bunch of shows coming up in New Jersey, a run in Texas, a lot of shows. So go to tompapa.com and look up all that good stuff. Here we are. This is it, kids. The summer is unofficially over. Well, September is definitely in my book the best month of the summer because the crowds are gone and all the nerdy kids are back in school and you get to actually go to the beach without a crowd and the weather's perfect and the ocean, whether you're east or west, is just perfect. I think my friend was in Malibu the other day, 72 degrees in the water. Oh, in a pool that's kind of lame, but in the ocean, that's perfection.

And while there's still all that stuff, the unofficial end of summer Labor Day, it's over, kids. It's over. It's time to start packing up some stuff. There are certain things that are just more enjoyable to eat and grill during the summer that, even though the weather's nice, you can do it, but it's not the same. It's not the same putting a bunch of hot dogs on the grill in late September, October as it is in July. It's just not street corn, hot dogs, hamburgers. Stakes will go all the way through, but even a great steak on the grill.

It doesn't have that summer thing to it. It just doesn't have that special seasonal thing. And that's okay. We did it. We did it well. I had a buttload of hot dogs this year. I don't know what got into me. I did find out a tip.

I did find out that if you go with the all beef hot dogs, say the Hebrew National the Thumans back east. No nitrates in those. No nitrates. So all those little rumors that every hot dog you eat is going to take 15 minutes off your life, which I'd make that trade. I guess it doesn't happen or doesn't count with the beef ones. So if you want to enjoy hot dogs and keep going, but again, let me not distract you. This is time to, this isn't a hot dog time. If you go to the ball, get park. If one of your teams is good enough to make it into the playoffs, you can go hot dog. But the summer version, it's over, kids. It's all over. Time to start thinking about baking some other stuff and getting into the fall. But it's kind of like a little gap. I'm not going to start

talking about making big, heavy lasagnas and really getting into it. We've got a beat. We've got a beat. So let's just celebrate the end of summer. Let's celebrate the end of summer. And like everyone listening, we don't go to school anymore. We're not nerds. We don't have to go do that. So you can sneak it. You can get a little gin and tonic on the side. I'm saying this all, by the way, talking about the end of summer, wow, L.A. is about 112 degrees. So it's a state of mind, kids. It's a state of mind. It's not a, it's not, it's not weather-based or according to the calendar by any means. um okay samarrell he came after me at the comedy seller uh with his crew of mark norman and jo list and uh all of his guys after i left uh those guys rolled in and became like the new steady crew

at the comedy seller and it was a reason that they stuck out because they all and sam and in particular, great lovers of comedy. Just loves, there's nothing better when comedians love comedy. I know it sounds kind of weird. Like, why wouldn't you do it? Well, a lot of people, you know, you know people in your jobs and they do it for one reason, but the love of it maybe isn't the thing. With Sam, comedy is his love. And he dedicates himself to it. He tours like crazy. He's just not going to be stopped. And he put out a special on YouTube. He was one of the first guys, and he's used as an example all the time. We talk about it in this interview. One of those guys who just took it in his own hands, took matters in his own hand and produced his own special

and put it on YouTube, I think it has over 10 million views. It just was a huge success, proving that you put out funny stuff. People will find it, share it, like it. And, and, And he just made it happen just out of a pure love and then nothing's going to stop him. But now he has a special, of course, when attention, the light gets shine on you for a little bit and people start paying attention. Netflix came around. And now he has this special that you can stream, I think starting today on Netflix. Super funny special, super funny guy. We have a great time.

You're going to love this conversation. and I give him some bread and he, the little spoiler alert, couldn't stop eating it. When the interview was over, he literally, I never saw someone devour the bread by the time they got to the door. But Sam did. He's really funny. I hope you enjoy this conversation. Thank you for joining us. Sam Meryl.

I have a nephew that lives in Oakland. Yeah. And he's pretty much a socialist. and he's out there like, you know, living on the mean streets and fighting landlords and, you know, the whole thing. Yeah. And then you're surrounded by like, and then he comes to see me perform in San Francisco. And it's like going, you know, into the golden real estate, you know, it's either homeless or big empty brownstones that Facebook owns. There's not a bigger divide of any place.

It's crazy. It is a weird thing. It's either like a dude on like a hover beam or like, don't. Dawn of the Dead. It's like the homeless dudes there are like in your fucking face. Man, they just forgot about the largest. Like there's so many forgotten people in that city. I know. It's so dark. And when you have like the people that are fighting like my nephew and it's like it's very noble. But I don't know. Like this this isn't winnable. Like these the wealth that you're trying to fight is so massive. I don't think you stand a chance. It's like you go to some place like Newark or someplace where you can actually make a difference.

Like here, it's like, ooh, unless computers disappear and iPhones become obsolete, that place isn't changing. Yeah, I mean, tech is already won. We're fucked. I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, and no one in any position to fight power has ever worked out well in that city. Harvey Milk, I think, horrible ending. Like, anyone who ever tried to, you know, fight. to help San Francisco.

That city is like, it's funny. Like, we're blinded by the Chapino. You know, like, they got good seafood, but it's like, that's a dark city. I know. I know, yeah. Don't you find when you go to these places, though, like, you go from your hotel to the club and back, and then you'll come away like, everything seems fine. Yeah, I got some clam shatter for lunch.

They seem to be doing all right. Well, we really ignore the problems. And our buddy Ryan Hamlin is that great joke where, like, he'll open to the crowd and be like, you're the first people I talk to today. Yeah, right. It's so relatable. I know. Yeah, I mean, S.F is like, look, it's like a good food city, a good walking city.

It's like those are the cities you want to go to as a comic. Like, I'm pumped to go to S.F. or Chicago or Boston or whatever. And then you see like St. Louis on the calendar and you're like, oh, boy. I don't know what highway I'm going to be staying off of. But I know it's going to be a noisy and sad one. I know. That's the one thing that I, the only demand I have. I'm very low maintenance when it comes to touring and stuff,

but I have to have a hotel where I can walk to a good coffee spot. That's, because that solves a lot. I'm not going to be on an off ramp. Yeah. I'm not going to be isolated in a holiday inn, like in the middle of nowhere where you can't even get food. Like,

at least I can walk someplace and see someone with a shitty barista attitude and it'll make me feel at home. That shitty attitude does bring you back to like a major elite city. And there's something also about those, You're taking a walk. If you see a person crossing an intersection risking their life for a gas station sandwich, that's a comedian on the road. That's a comic every time.

No, I'm with you, man. There's something about that snotty barista where you're like, all right, I'm getting a overpriced coffee. But it's better than like, look, I mean, we've all been in that situation where you're just drinking hotel coffee all day. You don't know where you are. And that's really all it is is coffee. Just give me coffee. Yeah, it's too isolating. If you're not near a coffee spot, you know that you're going to be a little bit ramped up on the loneliness, in the loneliness.

And a walk. We're walkers. You know, it's like I can't really drive anyway, so, you know. You can't? I mean, I have a license, but I like bullshit my way to getting it. What do you do when you come out here? Uber's. Ah, just Uber. I hate doing it.

Yeah. But what are you going to do, man? It's like, I noticed I've gotten less chatty. Maybe it's the pandemic. They used to be really chatty. Yeah. They used to be like, you know, you could tell like an aspiring. an actor or something and now it's just dudes who are like I don't want to talk to you.

Well, it's because they all went to postmates during the pandemic. That's what it is. So they're just used to driving with food and now you're there. This is like, this pandemic changed us. This is like, it's dark, dude. It did. I don't, I don't, I don't know if it's ultimately dark, but I do know that it's, there's a longer change than I anticipated.

Like it was kind of like in the. beginning, I was just kind of analyzing it in the moment. Like, are we, you know, okay, so prices are spiking or whatever. But now that we're like two and a half years, it's like, yeah, now you're really starting to see like the mental, cultural effects of it. Oh, yeah. And you go to any downtown of any city. It's like, it's like a video game where you're like, a dude's coming at you with a knife and you're like, do I go right? It doesn't feel like real life. You're like, I'm in my own video game. Yeah, I know. I was just driving here. I had these two guys car. behind me.

And I'm just like, I don't want to get involved. But the one was like slamming on his brakes and the other guy's honking behind him trying to pass. And this guy wouldn't let him pass. And I'm like, if that guy buss free from this guy, I'm next. Like, I'm going to be the next one. But that's happening all the time. If it keeps shifting over.

Yeah. I heard a really fucked up story. A friend of my wife, she's a teacher. And like someone at the school said that their kid, I think it was their kid. Their kid or their husband was driving on the freeway out here. And someone threw a brick from the overpass and it smashed their windshield. Oh, my God.

Didn't come through, thank God. But smash the whole thing. That's like an ad for the new Tesla or something right there. It doesn't go through. And the cop was like, yeah, there was two others. Bricks. At that same time, they just came out. Kids have gotten, used to egg cars.

Now they're throwing bricks. What the hell happened? What about some? toilet paper. This is like a brick is. A brick. You could kill someone. You literally could kill someone.

How, yeah. I think about that all the time, like the loose AC unit just like falling out in New York and dumping away. I remember having one of those and like, I didn't know what to put it in. I like jammed cardboard in there and I'm like, this is, I'm going to kill someone. Just using the window to keep it closed. That's really what you do. I mean, your friends are like, you're like, don't open that window.

I'm on the fifth floor. This could kill someone. I don't know. Why doesn't that happen every day in New York? It's crazy. It's also. like you get I have friends who are like oh my building's annoying about uh installing ACs I'm like so someone doesn't die that's why they're being annoying they're following the rules

I felt like I'm such a dumb fuck I remember putting it in being like this will be all right you're young you don't know any better no no you can you and you definitely didn't buy the air conditioner so you got it alone from someone and you just like one of three you just stuffed it in yeah you're not going to buy cables or like going to hire someone to help you have no money yeah it's Remember how poor you are when you first start comedy in New York? I always had a safety net because my parents are in the city, so I was never like that. I was always like, I always could get a free meal. I was always, you know, but yeah, it's like, it's stupid.

I mean, I remember eating like on the road. Like, my road life is so different than it is now. You know, it's like, now am I going to good restaurants. I used to just like, I'll just chill in the holiday end and eat the apples. You know, like I didn't do shit. Or save, like whatever meal. you got, like, save it even though you don't have a refrigerator. I mean, dude, it's, yeah, I remember, like, do you want to take an extra meal from the

club? And I was like, yes. Now I'm like, ew. You think I want to eat more, you think I want to refrigerate mott sticks? But like, back then it's like, you take every free meal you get. And I was excited for it. And I had a metabolism where I could like, yeah, I could keep eating this show. Oh, you could eat it at midnight and then fall asleep and be fine. Yeah. I remember, you ever work with Gilbert Godfrey? No. I mean, I, yeah, a little bit, but never like opening for him or anything. Yeah. Yeah, I'd met him. bunch. He was legendary for for

taking the food and stuff. He was very cheap. And I heard about this. Caroline's once. And he said something like, I'll have four meals. I'll have four of these. And I thought he was doing a bit for me. And they came with four meals and a thing of tinfoil. What do you get?

And he wrapped up all of the meals and put him in a bag. He's like, it's here for us. I was like, is it? You know what? Actually, Carol, I eat so much free food at Caroline. And I got drunk for free. I mean, you're making like $20 on a prom show at three in the morning. You better believe I'm eating like two chicken parms.

I used to eat so much free food there. Yeah. It was great. I mean, I had so many good times at that club. Oh, my God, I know. And so many bad times. It felt like so, it felt like, because it felt like real show business. Like you went down the stairs and you had a real dressing room and go through the kitchen like

compared to the other clubs. It was like, ooh, I'm on Broadway. This is exciting. It was incredible. I mean, I loved it. Have you been back recently? No, it's been forever. Me too. Why is that? What happens? I think they just kind of start booking younger guys. It's like, it's good for the scene.

It's like you flush guys like us out and then the newer comics kind of work there. Because the newer comics, a lot of them aren't working the cellar. A lot of them aren't working the other clubs. So they get in at Carolines and they develop. So if you headline in New York, in New York, you go to Gotham. I would do Gotham. Well, Gotham just paid me so much more money. I think that's the biggest thing. It's just like way more money. And also it's like,

Times Square is tough to get my audience to be like, hey, we're going to 49th in Broadway. They're like, what? Chelsea's such a hyper destination. Yeah, 49th in Broadway. I'm like, yeah, we're all going to Bubba Gump shrimp before. We're pre-gaming at Bubba Gumps. And I'm after party at ESPN Zone.

I remember when they had the restaurant, I don't know if you remember, they had a restaurant on top of it. Yeah. that they opened up and it was like kind of like comedic like big cups and it was like this bad restaurant it was mainly Italian food but it was bad Italian food and my grandmother came in from New Jersey they like brought her in you know and she's like she's like this amazing cook and the whole thing I remember her just sitting I came over to see them you know it's my first time like and uh

she's at the table like pissed I never saw my grandmother like pissed she's like $25 for this spaghetti And it's awful. We should go home right now. I can make this meal for you right now. And she was so offended by the meal in the comedy thing. It was like people dressed like Charlie Chaplin and you know, all this. It was terrible. Yeah.

No one's more offended than that than a grandma. Todd Barry used to have that great joke about how they're like $14 for pasta. Why would I do that when, you know, I can get it from my grandma. It goes, except for that extra $14, you get a big heaping side order of not having to talk to your grandma. Such a great bit. It's a good bit. I have dough on my arms. I apologize.

For making this. For making your bread this morning. Dude, this is incredible. I can't believe you do this. I made this for you. Can I take a bite? If you want, you could bite. Really?

Do people not usually eat it on the bed? One person, who someone ate it before? How do I, do I just rip it off? You would just rip it off, I guess. Dude, this is like crispy. This is incredible. Yeah, that just came out. That was this morning in between the radio show.

Dude. Right? What is it like a sourdough? Yeah. It's a called a field blend that's got rye and whole wheat and all-purpose. This is what people listen to pods like shooing. Oh, they love it. That's incredible.

They love the real crunchy part. I got something for you. What did you got? Bodega cat. Me and Norman's whiskey. What do you mean you in Norman's whiskey? We made our own whiskey. Get out.

Two years in the making. What? It's, yeah, you can get it at bodegacat whiskey.com. You can pre-order it. That's amazing. It's such good, you're going to love it. It's really good. Bodega Cat.

It's good whiskey, dude. That is really amazing. Look at you. It took us forever, but we cracked it. Wow. What was the inspiration? All these people have their own, I mean, I look at Clooney. He made all that money on Casamigos, and I was like, it's cool to have your own liquor.

Ron White. Ron White, you know. He's got, what's his, is. Tequila. Yeah. He sent me a bottle in Vegas. dose something or I don't know

everyone's got their own liquor Aaron what's what's Ron White's tequila all right he'll look at him you know but we

we saw these people doing this and then we were kind of like why don't we Norman and I were like why don't we have our own whiskey because we drink whiskey

all the time and we said on our podcast and we got so many emails from distilleries like we'll do it we'll do it for real with this guy Christopher Hart

in Houston because he seemed legit and he's done a great job. I mean, he's... I like the label. I love it, dude. Where'd you come up with the name? Babagga cat? It was originally fat cat because we like the double meaning. Like, you know, you're a fat cat, like a, you know, guy about town kind of, but old-timey kind of. And also, uh, who doesn't like a fat cat? It's a funny image. But then someone, there's some wine had fat cat and we're like, oh, we can't, like, you can't, I guess beer

were okay, but wine is in the liquor biz. So they were like, you have to give us a percentage and we're like, eat shit, fat cat. Fuck you. So we did bodega cat because we were like, we were just thinking of stuff that you're happy to see. You're in a bodega, a cat pops out. You're instantly like, oh, hell yeah. It's the best, yeah.

And I love the picture. He's kind of like hanging on the counter. Yeah, and you have to be careful with that because they have weird laws where it's like, it can't be too cartoon here. Kids are going to like it. Oh, you can't go like, yeah, the camel Joe. Yeah. Right.

Joe Camel. Yeah, you got to be. You can't be too adorable. also like, I wish I was like made me just want to have the cutest little cat ever. This is amazing. Now you don't put anything on the label that says it's you. No. It's because it's not about us, you know?

It's like, I love it, but it's like, I don't want to, I'm not doing this to showcase us. I'm doing this because I think it's like a really good whiskey and it's just fun to have. That's amazing. So when people started approaching you, did you like taste different whiskeys? Yeah, we tried a bunch. I mean, we got pretty fucked up on that episode. You know what's funny? This is a bit of a side note.

just because I think about it often. When I left, like you were the class kind of after me. I mean, probably a while after. Or like maybe two classes. Who would be in between that? Probably like a Joe DeRosa or something. Yeah, okay. But he's by himself.

And I would always, and I've said shades of this to you, but I would always see you post on Instagram and stuff. And when I came in and you guys were all so funny. And I was like, oh, there was a little jealousy of like, they were like in that prime new seller spot of just, and you guys were drinking a lot. Yeah. I remember seeing like your posts and stuff.

You guys were always like shit-faced and doing spots. And it was always like really kind of exciting and inspiring at the same time. It's just great to see. Good comics getting drunk in the same place that I was, you know, 10 years before. It lives on. Yeah. And then I got a sense that it kind of all calmed down. But now that, um,

I've just been in your orbit over the last year. I'm realizing that really didn't come down at all. Well, you know, it has calmed down. Like, we still drink. We don't go as hard as we used to. You can't. You can't be on the road every week and going that hard and trying to come up with new shit. So I want to enjoy alcohol.

I never want to have to quit. Right, right. That's a good point. You know, it's the same way like, you know, you don't eat fried food every meal because you want to be able to eat fried food and enjoy it. Yeah. But yeah, I love getting a little buzz on. Yeah, no, it's great. But I also...

The act is the big thing when you're on the road. For sure. You're like, it all becomes about the act. It's easier when you're building. And then what you're doing the night before is literally going to affect the next show the next day. 100%. When I'm writing a new act, I feel like I can drink a little bit because I'm trying to figure out the jokes anyway and I'll just listen. But when I'm honing, I don't really drink.

Oh, that's interesting. I think you really got to be precise there. But when you're figuring it out, you can have a little fun and... Just because you're a little looser, you're letting yourself off. See how far I can take this. Right, right. But, yeah, I mean, you can't, you just can't drink. And that's the problem with our podcast with me and Norman.

It's like, we backlog, we day drink for it. And it's like, I don't like day drinking. I've never been a day drinker. I'm a night because it's like, we work at night. Yeah. We have to for the pod sometimes. We have to backlog episodes. Well, when I did it, and what's the name of it again?

We might be drunk. We might be drunk. and we drank. But I wasn't the first one you did that day. I think it was like the third you did that day. And you guys kept it together. But I could tell you guys have been drinking. We pay.

So we know what to pay. We know our limits. You're professionals. You're professionals. But you don't want to. That's the thing is like you want the quality of stay good. It's funny. Some people get mad.

They're like, you weren't even that drunk in this episode. And I'm like, sorry. Sorry we weren't slurrying on the pod. So, you know, you want to, you want to, you want to, you know, you know, you want to put on a good show, but also like, also it's called we might be drunk. We don't have to be drunk. That's right. And not all your guests are going to be drinkers.

No, we have sober people. We just, you know, we've had a bunch of sober people on, you know, and we like that. And we like that they're sober listeners. Like, we don't want to exclude anybody, you know, if you had a problem and you had to quit good. Right. Yeah. I mean, like, that's, it's almost better. I'm almost jealous of those people.

I almost wish I had a problem sometimes just so I can get my life together. If I was the type of guy who just said the N-word at like an office party, I'd be like, yeah, I'd be sober by now, you know? Right, exactly. I know. Every once in a while, like when I've been going too hard, I'll contemplate telling people I'm on antibiotics. I love to, but I can't, you know, the medicine. They're like, all right, right. We'll let you off the hook for this one. Right. Dude, I'm on all kinds of, other drugs. I'm like, all right, as long as you party do. It's like, yeah, we're adults. Why do we have to, I do still feel the peer pressure sometimes of like, you know, and I do, I do want to pace myself on row because the comedy does come first that's the thing is like you don't want to fuck up your

your act you want the shows especially now that people are coming out i want them to be like i want to come back you hear those stories about yeah people may be selling out their first time out and then they don't people don't come back i want it to be a great show for them want to be a great and i know they like they hired babysitters and shit i don't want them to you don't want to spend your whole day dusting off a hangover and going to the show it's like that's like it's like it kills a day it kills it and also it's making about your act you're asking you're asking about your act And also we love what we do. So it's like you do those shows in night.

You don't want to dread those. Right, exactly. We've had those where you're just like, fuck. You get off and you're like, fuck. That was terrible. Yeah. Well, this is very exciting. You're going to like it a lot.

It's really good. This is very cool. Oh, man. And you'll drink an old fashion or Manhattan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's good for that. It's good straight.

Sip it straight or on the rocks or, hey, take it however you want it. you've earned it. That's our Don Draper voice. You're having a tough day at the office. Your wife's nagging, your kids are screaming. Have a bodega cat. You earned it. You've earned it.

You did earn it. Maybe you didn't though. Maybe you just started at 9 a.m. That's cool too. If you didn't earn it, you could still get this. Congratulations on the new special. This is very exciting. Thanks.

Because you have been on this podcast many times as... I think only one time. No, but many times with other guests, when we talk about a great comic who took matters into his own hands, put his own special up on YouTube, and got a big following off of it. You were like, people have been posting stuff for a long time, but you were the first time to, like, dial in, like, I'm going to put up a professional special. There were others before me. Yeah, but you, but you, you, maybe because you were better than them. But it stuck and it really was became like people bring you up all the time. I mean, that's that's flattering.

Yeah, it's, it's, you know, I think it's that thing where you just are like, I don't want to do these jokes anymore. I'd like them to exist somewhere. Maybe I'll get, you know, maybe I'll get hit by a bus tomorrow or something. So like I'll just, yeah, I want them to live somewhere. And yeah, and you do your little tap dance for the people who either say yes or no. And they said no. And I remember the time being so upset.

but then, you know, in retrospect, it's the best thing that could have happened. Yeah. You know, there weren't a lot of YouTube specials at the time. So that one did really well. It came out like right as COVID came out. So we both debuted the same month. Same publicists, right? COVID got more press.

But, you know. Yeah, you never know it's going to stick. But that was really cool. But it really helped you kind of establish. and now to have one coming out on Netflix, it's nice to have a bohemia behind you. Yeah, it's not, I mean, the irony is I probably do better on YouTube at this point. I mean, YouTube is like for everybody,

but maybe not, though, because YouTube is now oversaturated. I don't know. I don't know. But YouTube is a great place, like, to get young people who just, like, anyone can watch it. Yeah. That's kind of the beauty of it. And you have that link. Like, I remember in the 90s, like, or not me, but like, you watch the people.

specials and it's like, what's just on? Right. And then at a certain point, like, you know, I'd have a Comedy Central special special. Watch at 11 p.m. and everyone's like, what? You're wasting all these tweets that are like, watch my friends special. And everyone's like, I'm good. You know, because that's not how we consume shit. We consume stuff where friends are like, you haven't seen.

It takes like eight times to be like, have you seen Nathan Fielder's new show? And you're like, no. And then like an eighth guy says it. And you're like, you haven't seen it. And you're like, okay, I'll watch it. You need to be reminded. And then you go watch it. Yeah.

You know, or you have a link and your friends post about it. And they're like, all right, here's the link. Right. That's not how we consume stuff anymore. So it was tough, flush in hours of material down the toilet, essentially. Yeah, I know. It's like, anyone can watch it. So you're sacrificing money, but long run, you're getting more money because people are going to come see you on the road.

Right, right. You get visibility. Yeah, no, 100%. I mean, it's, what's the name of this? It's called Same Time Tomorrow. Same Time Tomorrow. It's a joke about, it's a porn joke that has a callback. And it's also like what we do.

It's the same time tomorrow. It's like the, I did seven shows in Chicago. I was like, all right, same time tomorrow. Like we would just get drunk after every show. I'm like, same time tomorrow. Right. It was, you know, it's great. Yeah, that's great.

It was like a party every night. And then I was with Gary Veter. We were in a hotel that had like a sauna. And I was like, sweat out the booze. Every morning. We'd sweat it out. We swim some laps. The best alcoholics I know who are,

alcoholics just where it hasn't become troublesome. To say alcoholic is too heavy of a thing. The best drinkers I know, have a steam regimen the next day. It's hard to get access. I know it is hard. The really good ones I know actually put it in their apartments. Wow.

Yeah. Damn. And man, that really gets it all out and you're fresh as a daisy. Yeah, I heard a story. I don't know if it's true that Miguel Cabot Brera, the baseball player, had it in his contract that his room had to have a steamer.

And I'm like, what kind of fucking room is he staying in? I'm sure that didn't work in every city. But, like, apparently that guy just baseball players drink. I know. They really, I guess they can. I know. You think it would fuck him up. I was in, like, in, oh, in Texas.

When the Yankees were playing the Rangers, I guess. Oh, isn't that the best when you're, and that, you're a Yankees fan. Yeah, but I wasn't there. I didn't even know they were, like, I knew they were around, but, and I was in a fancy hotel and they were there after the game after like the shows were over and I came walking through I didn't get close to any of them but they were partying hard yeah in the in the lobby bar of this hotel and I was like oh man these guys are kind of like rock stars they're young they're strong doing whatever the hell they want it's unlimited money yeah yeah but that's why dudes fizzle out

yeah I mean that's why a lot of those guys like because that works I think some of those guys it works in your 20s and then they're like well I'm not changing anything and then they hit like 32 yeah it's like yeah you don't recover the same you got you got to work out I did the all-star game once the celebrity all-star softball game that sounds amazing it was so great and I'm you good at baseball no I'm not I can do it like I was an athlete so I'm I'm not like inept but I don't play and yeah and I had a good catch in the field which was really really in Arizona I was playing left field. Nice.

And, yeah. And who's the legendary Boston guy? Fred Lynn. Okay. Next to me. Fred Lynn, he was in center field, like, legend. Yeah. And I'm there like, and who's the football player from Arizona with the dreads?

Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald comes up. And he smacks one right in my direction. And I had to kind of like charge it a little bit. And I come charging it and I caught it. And I caught it. Damn. Totally freaking out the whole time.

And I was so happy, but it's in Arizona where he's a legend. And everyone starts booing. I was like, I just made the greatest catch of my life. And everyone's like, boo. And he throws his arms up. But then Fred was like, nice job, nice job. Oh, that's cool. I heard Fitz is the man.

I heard he's like, everyone says he's like the coolest guy. Yeah, he seemed cool. He's such a great player. So cool. But why did I bring it up? Drinking partying. Oh, yeah. So when we're sitting in the part of like the experiences, you get to hang in the locker room in your little outfit and they bring in some of the veterans. They tell stories like just around the table, you know, like in the cafeteria. And I don't even know the names of who I'm talking about. But it was old time pitchers. And they were talking about like, you know, they're talking about steroids and all that kind of stuff. And they're like, you know, everyone was always doing something. Everyone was always doing something. They said, remember when you were pitching? When it was your. time to pitch and the guy was like yeah i'm sorry i'm spacing on the name but he was like they would put um

they would put uh uppers in the coffee uh when it was their day to pitch because they wanted the batters to be like super jacked and seeing the ball really big and fluffy so that they would be on fire they would try and tweak the rest of the stories they're probably on like beta blockers and shit yeah they're probably doing something yeah methamphetamines and all this kind of stuff and they were just like putting it in the coffee. Damn. Yeah. Any kind of advantage.

That makes sense. You're so tuned in. Yeah. And he said it. He said, I want my pitchers, I want my batters to be seeing the, seeing giant watermelon-sized baseballs coming across the plate. I was working on a new joke about how I would pop an Adderall before like listening to women.

Like, I'll just really listen well. And they're like, wow. And I'm like, yeah, it's performance enhanced. But they're like so impressed. Like, oh my God, he's such a good listener. He's cheating, but it's worth it. that's not one they care about you cheating though baseball was a shit man

I mean I don't watch it like I used to I gotta get back into it but I mean I just grew up with I was just too spoiled you know a Yankees fan in the 90s you just rotins you know when you said left you had all I thought about

was Chad Curtis charging the ball and like dive in his face into the every time he threw it he would just fall face for all those guys Sheffield Sheffield was a piece I was just thinking about him the other day waving the bat

yeah that menace Hicks had like this little glimmer of it the other night. Yeah. And it was just remembering Sheffield just like that bat. Like I'm just going to smack the shit out of this ball and your career. He was so cool Sheffield. I loved, I mean, shit. Posada, Jeter, Mariano.

Brocious. Brocious. Petit. God, what a great era. Paul O'Neill is this shit. Oh, the greatest. Paul O'Neill is one of my faves. That guy was a fucking war.

I love them. Warrior. The warrior. Bernie Williams. Oh, my God. Bernie Williams was, okay, so I'm sorry to keep making this about me. No, I love it. But during that same All-Star game, yeah.

Bernie Williams is the manager of our little team. Wow. And my locker was right next to Bernie Williams. Like my outfit with all my name and my stuff. Are you bugger? You're a Yankees, fan. You must be bugging out. I was freaking out.

Like totally. Postseason home run leader? Unenjoyable because you're just like too freaked out. You know what I mean? Like trying to be cool and he's so laid back and you don't know like how much I'm supposed to talk or not talk. Legend. So when it was my turn to bat, the greatest female softball pitcher in the world, Jenny, something. Isn't that sad that you're the best in the world?

I'm like, I don't know. I don't know or less than that. That's on me. But I get up there and swing at first pitch and it's so stupid. Like just as a celebrity thing, milk it. Take a couple, you know. You're nervous. Stay up there.

I'm totally nervous. Yeah. So she fires one in. I pop it up. The catcher catches it. And it's over. It's just like in a flash. And like I'm walking over to the bench.

And Bernie Williams with no, with no sarcasm or irony, just shakes his head like, you fucked up. Wow. Yeah. Bernie. I know. Did you see my catch? Yeah. Damn.

Oh, it was rough. I love that you popped out and you robbed their like beloved hometown hero of an extra base hit. I'm a disaster. All they wanted to see was Fitzgerald. But you got to make that cash. You did the right thing. I had to.

That's like childhood. Like that's like dream crushing shit. Yeah. I remember I met LaTrell Spreewell in a bar in Milwaukee and he was like my favorite player as a kid. Yeah. You know, Nick's legend. Yeah. He was so dumb.

I met him in a bar and I was like, I was, I was playing. like some shithole club in Milwaukee. And I was, by the way, I'm in a Knicks sweatshirt. Like, I'm like big Knicks fan. Yeah. And I'm in the bar with, you know, the host from the show. She's like, you know, just so you know, Spree well hangs at this bar all the time. And I'm like, yeah, okay.

Spree fucking walks in. Whoa. And he's in like sweatpants and all that stuff. And they're like, you know, get him a drink. He drinks Honey Jack. I'm like, of course he does. Honey Jack is such a hilarious thing that just drinks straight. And I'm like, oh, get him a drink.

I'm a fan. So I'm like, of course. like an idiot I walk over to him like LaTrell I'm a huge fan man he's like okay and I'm like can I get you a drink he goes already got one and I'm like I'm like I'm like fishing my head for shit I can say and I said I'm playing the comedy club like I don't know what to say I panicked and I said if you want to come and he goes yeah don't count on it I was like oh my god don't count I'm getting destroyed by Spiegel I was like all right nice to meet you and then I some other guy was there with us and he was yeah I worked for bleach report all

handle this and then we want and I'm like oh like this guy's probably going to get in with spree well the guy walks over I always see a spree being like like like get out of my face and I'm like all right I got off easy whatever just happened and uh what do you mean what the guy do like I don't know he went over to provoke him he didn't no he just probably was like like hey I work for bleacher and spree he's like I don't give a shit get at like it was just like him trying to get it's just bat and flies yeah he was like get away but he was just more aggressive I think I came yeah you know I was more you know terrified visibly and So he was maybe gentler, but whatever.

And then I'm doing the show the last night. And I guess he drinks her like every night. Yeah. And a lot. Yeah. And the bartender from the bar is at my show. And she's like, oh, it's a really good show. I'm texting Spree about you right now.

And I'm like, what? And she just showed me your phone. She's like a hot bartender. That's probably why he's nice to her. But it just said, like, oh, I'm with a comedian who said he met you the other night. And Spree goes, oh, yeah, I remember him. Great guy. I was like, great guy.

I was like, what the hell? Don't use me to get laid. I'm just a part of your game plan and bang this bartender. And she's like, no, he really liked you. I'm like, no, he didn't. But then years later, I had a sports show on MSG, the Knicks Network.

And Spree was a guest. Oh, nice. He was nice enough. He was the only dude that wouldn't, I do like cold open sketches with the athletes were like, you know, he had Sabathion, the Yankees who was like the coolest guy. And, you know, a guy loved.

Yeah. But, Sabathia, I remember, like, I was like, hey, just do this gag. It was just simple. Cold open. Like, he walks in, like, hey, man, I'm so excited to be on the show. And I'd be like, oh, dude, are you really? And he's like, no, I don't care. He's like, the show stinks.

That was basically the open. It would be 10 seconds of that. And I want to do a thing with Sprie where he's just texting and I keep talking to him. I'm like, you and me, man, New York, New York's finest. And I just keep, and he's like, uh-huh. And he just keeps doing that out. Yeah. I had this whole script kind of planned out.

like, no. I was like, okay, won't do it. But then they were saying, like, he doesn't, he's already worried he's perceived as a dick, so he doesn't want to do the thing where he's a dick. And I was like, all right. And then he did the thing, and I was off because he just, I was intimidated. Uh-huh.

You mean he did the thing, doing, he did the interview. He didn't do that, he didn't do that. But he was, he was nice enough in the interview for sure. Oh, that's good. You can't hold on to, like, the hurt. He was, he was a New York legend. And, you know, there's like, yeah, the amount of people that are coming in front of this guy all the time, and especially,

him. He was pretty controversial. He was. Don't count on it. That will stay with me. Yeah. Come to my show, don't count on it. I mean, that's incredibly blunt. You almost appreciate the honesty. Most people were like, no, think about it. He's like, don't know. I'm not coming.

Some of those just sting you. I got, my wife and I got drunk in an outdoor base up in California somewhere and there was like a band was playing and we were pretty hammered. And a guy behind me was like singing along to the band. And this guy was like late middle age money.

You know, like, it was something like Santa Barbara or something. Oh, I know the guy you're talking about. A little too tan. His shirt's unbuttoned, one button too many. His wife's about square hair. Too young. Yeah. Exactly that guy. Yeah.

Exactly. And I turned and said something drunk to him like, yeah, how do you know the words to all these songs? And he just goes, have a good night. Wow. Have a good night. night, that's excellent. It sticks with me 15 years later.

Damn. I'm like, oh, I wouldn't hurt. It was so perfect. It wasn't causing shit. It was, he, like, stunned me like a mosquito in a, in a zapper. Like, okay. Have a good night. Bye.

You're right. It's literally, bye. You do, leave us alone. Yeah. And get out of my face. We've all done that with a drunk fan. Like, where you're like, someone after the show is talking, you like, and they just, like the guy who like wants to shake your hand 40 times and you're like,

dude, I've shaking your hand 12 times. And the guy was like, no, but seriously like, like, good show. And you're like, thank you. And they're like, but it was like really good. And you're like, thanks. And then they're just like, well, you know, normally I'm like, all right. This is shape number 12. I'm keeping track.

And then finally you pulled it like, well, it was great to meet you. That's like the polite way. Yeah. Instead of, uh, have a good night. Have a good night. That's rude. Oh, and he toasted me. Have a good night.

And just like raise his glass. Just banged his young wife. I told my wife, my wife was just like, Ouch. That's so fucking good. It was such a good one. Respect, though. It's hard playing in front of people in areas like that that have,

that they'd have no worries in their life. Not just no worries, but like, they don't really, they don't respect, like, the process. You know, like, you go to like a place with a big artistic community, you know, a theater community. You go to those bigger cities sometimes. And, you know, you go to, you know,

You get, they understand that if you're gonna do a new hour every year, year and a half, you gotta work some of them are just like, what are you doing? Like, you're trying a new joke. And I'm like, you have to. Yeah. I don't, I'm on the road all year. It's not like I just tour when it's ready. I play this is how it gets fucking good, you know? So you either go to those cities that are like small enough that they're grateful you're there and they're like do whatever the fuck you want.

You know, we're Springfield, Missouri. Yeah. Or you get like, you know, sometimes you'll be in like Naples, Florida, which is like my least favorite. where they're just like, dance. Just fucking dance, monkey. And you're like, all right. There is something too when the weather's so nice. Right.

And they're in a certain tax bracket. Sure. They figured it all out. Everything's kind of. And then you're up there with your little struggles of your life, expressing them in your act. And they're like, that's cute. Yeah, they don't connect to anything you're saying.

Not only that, they like, those are the hell gigs. And those are the ones where you're like, these people wouldn't be impressed by like Hamilton. No. And then I'm going up there with like observational humor. Like they would see Hamilton and be like, it's all right. It's okay. You know, they would see.

My house is better. That's what they're all saying the whole time. I'd rather be home in my beautiful house. Hamilton doesn't have like a massage chair in it. You don't get to like sit in a massage. It's heated my chair. I have a hot tub. And if the weather's too nice.

Yeah. San Diego comedy is harder than Minneapolis comedy. I've had weirdly had good crowds in San Diego for whatever reason. Like I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like, they're actually, I actually really, maybe it's just whatever. Because you bring enough darkness to it. You balance off there with it. Well, San Jose, I don't know why, like, I wasn't really connecting with them as much.

But San Diego, SF, like, those are all like, you know, L.A. is usually good. You know, the Midwest. I love the Midwest. I mean, yeah, something about Minneapolis or like, I love touring the Midwest. Especially in the winter. There's something still, like, fuck, I love, like, I love going to, like, Columbus, Ohio. You know, I love... Totally.

I had a run where, I think I might have told you this, where I wanted to call it. It was, I should have named it, but I didn't get the name until I had done like my fourth one, like in Red Wing, Minnesota. Like these smaller places, nice little theaters, like four or five hundred seats, like, but in the middle of nowhere. And someone came up and said, what are you doing here? And I had heard that so much on the tour that it should have been the name of the tour. What are you doing here tour? That's great. But playing those markets, oh my gosh.

God, great. Yeah, because not everyone goes to those markets. So they're like, oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember talking to like Nate Bargazzi about this a bunch where he's like, you got to keep going to those smaller cities because they'll remember and they'll appreciate it. And I'm like, well, I just want a tour anyway.

So I'm happy to be working. You know, I like going to these cities. Like, I do have Springfield, Missouri coming up. I've been there a couple times. I have fun there. It's small. It's fun. You get different types of crowds.

You know, talking to different type of people. I like that you can go to San Diego one weekend. and some middle of nowhere in the Midwest city, you know. Yeah. You know, I'm in like, you know, Dayton, Ohio the next. I'm like that. I like that. I'm doing, I'm talking to different people.

That's fucking awesome. Do you think that there is a, that new comics are almost too specialized? Like, you were still of the ilk of like, you just were thrown into gig after gig where you just had to kill no matter where you were and you just had to kind of like adapt and do it. Yeah. And then there seems to be a certain strain that are great in front of this certain kind of an audience. But if you were to take them and throw them in a corporate gig for General Motors and then the next day play like Naples, Florida, they would struggle. Well, you're like a guy who you could put you at shortstop.

We could put you in center field. You know what I mean? Like you're doing those. You could do a Brooklyn room. We could do a corporate gig. Like there's a yeah. And I do, I know what you mean where like you don't really have to adapt because the act is just kind of can work. And a lot of people are so much leaning like, well, I'm part of this political party.

I'm part of this political party. And I was never, you know, part of it was like, well, I want to be an entertainer. I want people to laugh. Yeah. So it was very much about the jokes. And if you're just kind of doing jokes, you kind of train yourself to write that way. And it kind of, you do the road. It's hard for young comics to come up doing the road now because they just haven't raised the money.

Flights are insane. I know. You know, hotels are, it's like hotels got worse, airlines got worse, and the prices have just keep, they keep going up. Yeah. So if you're a young comic now, I don't know how you do it unless you're opening for someone who helps you out. Yeah.

The only way I get people to open for me is to pay for them. Yeah, you have to. I mean, you have to. Yeah, you got to pay on top of the horrible pay that the club is giving. And you're like, I'm bringing, if I bring someone open, they're like a headliner level comedian, I bring like Gary Veter or Dina Hashmer or something. someone like really killer yeah to open because I want the whole show to be awesome but uh yeah so I think that that has made clubs have made it hard to develop comics and then it's also hard for these

young comics to break into the headliner position because there's so many guys who already have those spots yeah so you're not you kind of almost have to unseat someone at the table right you have to kind of take your spots like game of thrones or something you know you have to go do open for someone in one of those far off places and then put something in their food. I don't know what happened to Sam. He'd seem great at the show. Every feature is just like Putin now.

It's like, yeah, I don't know, yeah, I don't know how you break in now. I really don't, like, I came up at a very fortunate time where I think, like, I was getting booked off, like, credits rather than the fact that I could fill seats. I don't know if that, if that really exists anymore. Yeah, because so many people will sell. Yeah, and also they're competing with, like, TikTok celebrities. And, you know, people, a lot of these TikTok or YouTube celebrities, you know, some of them are maybe comics, but then some of them are also, you know, they do a whole other thing. So their crowd comes out once. Right. And they don't come back. I know. I was just in Brea at the improv. Yeah. And which I'd never played before for some reason. This guy with a talking raccoon hand was here last weekend ago and he's great on TikTok, but for some reason it didn't translate. Legit. That's what they were saying. There was like this two guys who are YouTube. stars they were like started as like a fitness thing but then they turned right wing sure and diamond and silk

they sold out the place on a sunday and the whole night was just you know f biden and all of that stuff all of like the worst part of humanity uh pack the place yeah but how how often are they going to do that that's the thing it's like this is you got to look at like i was fortunate to open for people who have had longevity in this career starting out you know like i was remember starting out you know it open for like, you know, Gary Goldman, Dave Atel, Amy Schumer, like, people who like, I think understood what it took to have lasting power

in this biz. And you learn from that. You're like, okay, this is, I'm an entertainer. This is, this is what it takes. Right. And it's tough to keep writing a new act. It's tough. Do you think that

because like even when you mentioned Amy, like, you know, she took some swings politically. Sure. Which no one wanted to hear from from a woman about like guns and stuff like I mean there's yeah exactly I think that was a tough it was it was it was tough do you feel like I get asked it a lot and but I respect her for for just being like this is who I am yeah just doing her thing right exactly like Wanda's the similar way you know like just doesn't give a shit she's just gonna say what she says um but I think in some way that is like it's funny I say because she does if you see her stand up it's not that it's just

no that's a thing I think she was kind of like like this is who I want to perform to and you're like you know that's you're losing money doing that you know because there's probably places that you're not going to sell as well so I yeah I do respect when people are like this is who I am but for me I just kind of I don't I'll post something every once in a while yeah but I'm not it's just not who I am really yeah right you're not that in your everyday life so I think I think I think people who most people who listen to me know who I am already So I don't really feel the need to voice it all the time. I think if like you listen to my podcast,

I know who he is and where he stands. Jimmy Carr had a great explanation of that. And I don't know if it was his line or he was relaying it to me. But he said that comedians leak. We leak who we are. Yeah. Like you get the essence. Lenos said this similar thing to me.

He goes by the time you get to the microphone, they know everything about you. You don't have to really lean into it. I would just rather like for my act, I would rather say it in joke for him. I can say this in a joke. Right. And you'll hear it in a funny way.

And guess what? If it's not funny enough, it's out of my act. So I don't really want to post that stuff. But, you know, I have gun stuff that I'm sure. And I also like to, like, I like doing it in areas with early in the guns. And I'll fucking make, I'll make them laugh. And that's kind of the plan. Right.

I'm not going to change your mind, but let me, I don't think any comic is really going to change someone's mind. I think that's, it's very tough. And I just don't think. I think I'm that guy, you know. I'm kind of... No, and that's kind of the weird thing that's going on. It feels like you're not going to be changed people's mind. Sure. But what people seem to be doing is just keep throwing red meat to this audience because they'll come out. You know what I mean? Right when comic you're talking about. Yeah. Really? It's like it's that thing.

Throw vegan tempe to this crowd. And, uh, yeah. Yeah, but that kind of thing like it's... I see people on on Twitter and they just are every tweet is like political or like calling people sheep and I'm just like hey if you're a comic can 12% of these be an attempt of a joke can like any like can we try to be kind of funny still I don't like calling comics brave I don't like the free speech warrior shit I'm like hey man we're not really getting censored like I look when it comes to shit like you know tech and them you know burying shit that worries me as a comedian right but when it comes to like I don't think really comics are getting canceled for what they say. I think I think it's overblown. I think a lot of

people are like, oh, they're going to cancel me. I'm like, you're baiting, you're baiting your people to get angry, to get more engagement. Right. That's usually how it works. I mean, I seem like the people that are the most worried about getting canceled are doing the best. Right. Right. Yeah, they're leaning into it. They're leaning into it. And people do get mad because they're behind you, but, you know, when people are coming after you, uh, sure, but I do think a lot of it doesn't really stick. I giving them attention almost you know empowers these people so i kind of just when people are coming after me i usually just laugh it off like i got some angry tweets in san jose and i'm like i mean oh well yeah exactly you know yeah you just don't want a face that you live in san jose i'm with you it's terrible uh

yeah yeah it's uh it's easier to be mad at me than look at your fucking life it's a weird thing that to to to to feel like like a comedy club which is a high kind of sacred ground is like, has people coming in and posting up shows of just propaganda. Yeah, I just also like, I mean, I guess it was what used to be like a soap opera star or like somebody who like, you know,

came from a reality show. And now it's like that the, the P.T. Barnum Barker part of that is now political. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it can be and it doesn't have to be. That's the thing about common. It can really be whatever you want it to be.

Yeah. And for me, and I think there are comics who do it politically very well. I'm just not really, I'll do social commentary stuff in my act, but I don't want to be political. It's not how I am in every day, so it's like, I don't really want to be that. Right. And I just see people get carried away where it's like,

where the tyranny will not stand and you're like, Rob Schneider, Jesus Christ, like we're really, we're going hard. Like I just know you from the Deuce Bigelows movies growing up. And then I follow them, like every, a lot of people I follow. It's just so every post is so political. And I'm just like, all right, you know, if that's how you want to live your life, not how I want to live mine. Yeah, me neither.

And there's enough of that noise. It's never ending. I didn't get into this to be a fucking pundit. Right. I didn't get into this. I wasn't like, someday I'll be Don Lemon. I was like, no, I want to tell jokes. Right.

Exactly. Yeah, I want to kill as hard as I can and have people just crying and forgetting about all that shit for a minute. That's kind of what it is. It's like, I always respected Conan for keeping that monologue escape. tapist when everyone else was like, and another thing from the orange bad man. I'm like, do you hear everyone doing the same fucking jokes? Like, I kind of love that Conan would keep it really silly and light. Yeah. That's kind of like, that's what I ain't. I think you got to know who you are. And not everyone's

going to be that. Like, I think there was a period where everyone is trying to be like a political comedian now. And I'm like, that's not really my strength. Yeah. I know. Just to like pick sides and like, no, I mean, that's the thing. It's not your strength. Like there are, I have, I have, I have, I have, opinions about everything. I read the news all the time. I have a very clear world view. All day, yeah. I'm deeply unhappy. I know that's right. I'm as miserable as everybody else, but I know that I'm not as talented politically as some of the people who are really great at that. Well, John Stewart really, like, heard a lot of comics in that way because he was so good at the Daily Show. Yeah. And I think then they just kept trying to recreate that show. And I'm like, that's like saying like, go go be Derek

Jeter. Right. It's like, that's not how it works. No. You know, like, not everyone can do that shit. Yeah. So, you know, Comedy Central's just to recreate that show 47 times. I know. Then every other network is like, we'll do it.

Yeah. So I just think, you know, and then it's a way to get a base quickly. There's a lot of comics I see just posting shit. Like, if I keep writing obvious, there was a point on Twitter where you would, people would all write like funny kind of observational quips. And then it slowly became like, Trump is a Nazi. And you get like 500 retweets. And I'm like, oh, this is, now this.

guy's lane right so um just right like like i also like writing like an original take uh or an original joke and it just seems like a lot of these people writing the exact same thing i know twitter's so reactionary like the way we do stand-up is like i liked it being a process of of like let me hone this joke let me work on this joke yeah twitter's the exact opposite right it's you take it out you get mad blah blah blah blah and it's got a hit or and it's and either way if it hits or it doesn't hit it's gone in a second. Also with like the amount of podcasts we all do now is like are we not getting enough of of this like riffing like can we like that stand up like I got in this to be a standup and then all of a sudden we're like all radio guys like I didn't get into this shit to be Don Imus either like what

the hell's happening to everything. I know I know but I mean yeah I think it's just a kind of like a greater thing of everything's now just being everything's there's nothing universal it's all like segmented like everything is it's all just about who your little lanes, you know. And some of that's good, because that means there's a bigger middle class in comedy. That means there's a lot of people that couldn't make a living of this who now can, and that's great. But I think a lot of it is now, well, these are my people.

And some people just have small crowds because their sense of humor is quirky. Some people are like, I only perform for far left liberals. And you're like, well, there's a whole world of people out there. I also am like, hey, man, there's a good chance I'm wrong. You know? Well, yeah, I know, exactly. I know, like to take an opinion when you don't have any of the facts. Yeah.

Like, I don't have that kind of bravado. Like, I'm like, well, let's hear this one out. Let's see, in a month, is this going to be the same thing? Yeah, I just, I like, for the most part, like on Twitter, I really don't like people. Face to face, I really do like people. Like, when I'm hanging with people, I'm like, man, I really like see, you get a sense of who they are. You get a sense that people are flawed. Twitter's like one snapshot.

It's like a text. You interpret it in the worst possible way. Right. Whereas one on one, you're just like, well, this is a person. And this person is, you know, they're three dimensional. They feel real. Right. I think it's a real small minority that's in the culture.

Cubans. That, yeah. David, you know, David tells a joke where he's like, was a joke where he goes, you know, there was a kid in my front row. And he goes, what kind of family? Cubans. So where are you at now? You're out here in California.

You're going to run around, do some podcasts, do some shows. A lot of pods. Bread's amazing, by the way. Isn't it good? Now, how are you going to treat this bread when you take it to your hotel? You just keep knowing at it. I get to take this? Yeah, this is going with you.

I mean, I worry about it because you'll be in a hotel. We're like founding fathers here, just whisky and bread. I know, right, exactly. You're like Benjamin Franklin. If you could get something to put on the bread, I would definitely do. it. It's incredible. Yeah, maybe some butter. What about, yeah, what am I doing?

Doing shows, doing some. And now your special's coming out this week. September 1st. Netflix, same time tomorrow. So what is your, what is your, um, and new podcast with Julian Edelman called Games With Names. So that's the pod. So now you have two pods?

We might be drunk with Martin Norman and Games with Names with Julian Edelman where we, uh, we, we talk like it's sports history. So it's so much fun. It's like, if you like sports, it'll be one of your favorite things. Because the guests are insane. It's like, you know, Bill Simmons podcast? Are we launchables? It's like that, but a game.

So we live the greatest games ever. We're searching for the greatest game in history. It's like, oh, that's great. We've already had like, you know, Eli Manning, Payton, Manning, Michael Irvin, Paul Pierce. Like every, we're getting every sport, you know, Michael Vic was on. I mean, we've had like so many big guests. And it's, you know, it's awesome.

Wow. Well, you're my biggest guest. I know that's not true because I follow you on Instagram. That's amazing. But how are you feeling act-wise? Do you feel like you're in good spot? Do you get nervous that you have to go out and tour when your special's out? Yeah. I mean, we put off doing bigger venues because I really need to rebuild. Yeah. But, you know, I feel, you know, I never feel great. But I felt better before San Jose. I was like, man, I was just not doing great.

I was like, this is kind of tough. This is weird. Great staff and club. But I was like, man, I feel like I'm not doing that great up here. And then I did the jokes here. And I was, you know, so I feel a little better. I was doing them in New York. I felt better.

I'll keep dragging him through the mud on the road. That's how we get them good, right? No, and it's great to watch. I mean, you're so good. You too, man. Love your stuff. Anytime. I listen to your stuff a lot because you're,

you're clean, you do a lot of different types of material than I do. So it's like, I'm not going to step on your shit. Right. But it's like, I just like it a lot. So you're a guy can just listen to. Same. And it's like, oh, that's how you do a joke, right? That's a joke.

You know, it's like you remember, you know. Yeah. Anytime yours comes up, I watch and hang with it. And, you know, and it's not that way for all comedians. We're fucking one love, dude. The bread, the wine, the whiskey. Yeah. Thanks for the whiskey.

This is great, but bag a bag. Can people just go buy this? Yeah, bodega catspirits.com, bodega catwiskey.com. It's available for pre-order. It's, I'm really pumped about it. It's going to be your favorite whiskey. This is so great. It's a really good whiskey.

Awesome. Well, thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it. I love it. Good luck in your Uber. Maybe I'll see you at the store tomorrow. Maybe. Not tomorrow.

I'm at the bourbon room. The bourbon room. Yeah. Not a gig. I'm just going to get drunk. No, it's a, it's a venue in, like, in North Hollywood. It's pretty cool. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah. I don't even know it. All right, nice. Well, congratulations. You too, man. I can't wait. I can't wait. Congrats on your special coming up.

Yeah. I can't wait to see that. I'll come back and do yours. Come back on we might be drunk. Yeah. We'll give you a good martini. I don't know what happened there. It was a bad martini, but that's okay.

He's a great bartender. I don't know what happened. He just put an oily, he tried to make it dirty and use the blue cheese olive. Can't do that. It's like an oil slick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Got it, Aaron. All right. kids, that's the big show. Thank you to Sam. Go and check out his special right now on Netflix. Also go to YouTube and check out his last specials on there. Go to tompapa.com. Look up all of my tour dates. I am rolling all over the place, so I've got to be coming close to you for sure. And that's it. Enjoy. Summer's over. You're the best. See you soon.