Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 122 - The Sklar Brothers Return

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Two breads for the Sklar Brothers who have given us a new show, The Nosebleeds on UFC Fight Pass. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, it's our goal. Hey, it's time for Breaking Bread with Papa. Hey, don't you know? Hey, it's also a show. Hey. Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. I am Tom Papa. Thank you for joining us today.

It's time for a little day drinking. It's time for a little day drinking with the Sclar's. Jason and Randy Sclar, very funny comedians. They've been on the show before, and they come back because they have a new show. show called the nosebleeds. The nosebleeds. You can see them on YouTube and Instagram. The nosebleeds with the scler blathers. They do a very funny take on the old broadcasts of the UFC. And it's hilarious. Very funny. You're going to really enjoy it. And of course, they're always great. This interview was a blast when so fast. I mean, you can see why they are not only the good friends,

but just as good broadcasters and very funny people, they just keep it going. You're going to really like this one. We touch on everything from comedy to horror to some inspirational stuff. And their show is indeed very funny. I watched the first episode, and it's really great. I can't believe that there's even archival footage from 1993 of UFC. It's kind of amazing. Just seeing the beginning, knowing what it has become, this gigantic.

gigantic international sport and to watch like the very beginnings of it is pretty hilarious and the sclars are just so good at serving it up because they're just so joke heavy they make it it's kind of like a mystery science theater for the early days of UFC you're going to really love it it's called the nosebleeds and uh you're going to enjoy this conversation i was um making them bread this morning before the show and I was going back because I, just because of timing and different things, you know, I now have a mountain of bread books and cookbooks in my house, which is great. I love being, I sometimes just read this stuff. I got this Italian cookbook from yesteryear, which just takes different parts of Italy.

And this book is like from 1971, I think. and it's amazing how far it's all come. Like there's just, there are pages with no pictures, no descript, just hear the ingredients, you do it. Just so great.

It really makes me want to like go even further back into the older, the recipes you can get, the better and just kind of make what people were making at a different time. Really, really fascinating. So anyway, I went back to the very first bread book

that I ever use, which of course is tartine from the tartine bakery, and that just, you know, revolutionized all kind of bread baking and stuff. And everybody kind of caught the wave after that. And I went back to it just to make the original bread that I made. Man, so simple, so good. It's funny how you can get something so basic and then start getting fancy and going into different directions and realize, oh, kind of at its source. This was the thing that turned you on in beginning and you kind of forget about it in a way and uh they got two very nice loaves of bread i have to say happy birthday sclars um but nice going back and and uh and cracking that open it was very uh i almost didn't make it because it was one of those mornings where you have 15 things

to do and you're baking at the same time and it's 150 degrees in los angeles it literally is I'm surprised things aren't just bursting into flame. By the time this air is, we probably will have seen those reports, but it's so damn hot. I was in Arizona doing shows in Tempe over the weekend, and that was so hot that the people that were driving me around, they dropped me off at Whole Foods,

which was not even a quarter mile from my hotel. I was like, oh, thanks a lot, you don't have to wait. I'm going to grab some stuff. I'll walk it. They're like, no, you won't. That's not how we roll here in the desert. we're going to give you a proper ride and bring you back home where you can actually get in some air conditioning. They treat the heat like a storm, literally like a storm.

It's like, no, this is, you don't go out in a blizzard. You don't go out in this heat. We're going to drive you to your safe destination. And I was like, I got to get back to L.A. where everything's normal. Nope, not normal. 112 here in Los Angeles. I keep wondering if we should be getting out of here. I mean, we're running out of water, aren't we?

I don't know. I would love to be able to turn on my solar. I put on solar from Tesla, and I've got these two big power wall batteries that are waiting to be filled up with juice and be able to back up my electricity, if and when the grid goes down, and getting approval from Los Angeles to turn,

just flip the switch, is months-long aggravation. I spent all this money to try and do the right thing and try and conserve and be smart and get off the grid somewhat. And man, they do not make it easy. They don't make it easy. I was like, maybe I'll just turn it on and sneak it.

And you do that, and they cut the power to your house. So they're good at responding to that. But man, just really getting screwed. But it's super, super hot. And it was time for some day drinking. I just threw some beers into the bag and head over it. I feel like the scholars have another. show we should be raising a glass and celebrating sharing some bread and having a good time and uh i hope you

enjoy it enjoy the scler brothers cheers cheers congratulations welcome back thank you congratulations on your new show thank you the nose please continued success on the podcasties thank you being my friend that's the biggest thing that's the crown jewel and two loaves of bread right out of the oven just for you can we crack them open you can open it if you like no i'm not going to leave mom to leave mine It's nice and warm. It's almost as warm as it is outside in Los Angeles. I mean, so hot. Did you bake these outside?

I bake them inside. But what's really cool is when you bake bread when it's this hot. Yeah. It like halves the time. It's like everything, you know, it takes like five hours for it to like rise from like this up until this. And this one now it's so. Two hours. It's like, yeah, exactly.

You like go into the other room and come back and it's like ready to go. I mean, you explain bread the way people explain their crossfit workouts. It's like most of it is only interesting to you. So we took this huge thing and then we turned it over and then we took a swing set. I'm using less salt and we're like, okay, it's good. Cool. In the first five hours is when you really got to look at it. So our workouts are only 20 minutes long and then we all run around.

Then we sign it on. We hang from a chain. Okay. Yeah, I put the yeast in the thing and then I had to ferment and then overnight. That's all that stuff. A combination of flowers. But I do appreciate this. But yeah.

It's gorgeous. It's really so. It is pretty funny. too that I don't know if people even like it. Like if people are like, I go to podcasts, I'm never looking for a gift. I love it.

I mean, it's nice that it shows up, but it's like I think I'm baking it partially because I'm, I know you guys are coming and partially because I want to keep baking bread like a psychopath. It's a wonderful. You got to keep the thing going. And I had a conversation with a friend of mine about bread the other day about a holla, which is a very specific kind of bread.

I make that too. Jewy bread. Yeah. braid it up, egg it. And he said something very smart. He doesn't like a pre-sliced holla. It dries it out. I agree.

So when you get a loaf of bread and you can pull a hunk, it's better. It's just better. 100%. So we're going, I mean, this is how great this is. I want to eat it this weekend. We're going down to Mission Viejo to our cousins, like to hang with our cousins. I'm going to bring this bread. Nice.

We're going to be champions. Perfect. You want some fresh toast? Is this good French toast bread? Yes. Billy. It's more like just regular. I mean, hot is the king of French toast. Avocado. Yeah, avocado toast, that kind of thing. And being it just came out, it's like tomorrow's really when it's going to be like, okay, come and get me. Great. And that into Saturday, you'll be fine. And you told us also don't like seal it up in a Ziploc bag.

No. Keep it in this. In this bag. Or just a dish towel over it. And you love it. And your guys will be fine. Your show is really funny. Thank you. Let me go right into it. Let's get into it. Let's cut the chatter before we. All right. Because I'm excited about this show. Because it's got, it's based on UFC, but UFC history. Yeah. And I can't believe we're at a point where there is all of this classic footage of UFC. We were saying the exact same thing. Yeah. We were like, so you think about 1993.

Think about your headshot in 1993. Okay, the Tom Poppa headshot in 93. Ours was 94. So we're right in the same range. So you think of what are we doing? Why are we hunched? Ours was like to the side and one of us was like this and the other was like this. We're like, we thought we were the Beastie Boys.

If you were to see that, we could do an hour on just how stupid our outfits were. What were you wearing? I was wearing like shirts, which kind of are back around now. I don't know. Back around now. But we just, the pants were wide. Chain wallet. Chains were like, who are we in like?

Caesar cuts. Like, what if I hated how we like, if I look back at that, I just, you hate it. But we're like, that's the point that we're making with this show that like we know where we are. today. We like who we are today. We just back then is cringe. I can still make fun of who we are today. I can make fun. Oh, 100%. But now because you're more, because now you're successful and self-aware. It's fine. It's more fun. To do it back then when you don't know what's going to happen. We don't know where you're going to get. So risky. So we, that's kind of the way we pitched it to the UFC. So basically, we had the show from like 2002 to 2000 that ran a 2010 on ESPN called Cheap Seats,

which was like, great show. Mystery Science Theater with the old weird sporting events that they have in the library there. So dog shows, cheerleading, beard and must bein' mustache championships. It was like a blast. You know what? It was an excuse to make 250 jokes in 20 minutes. Can we do that? That's what you guys are so good at.

I mean, you know, you told me what the concept of the show was. I looked it up. I was like, oh yeah, I'll get to see all this footage. And then within two minutes, I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot that it's hosted by two joke machines. Joke machine. Joe, Joe. You know, we love. There can never be too many jokes.

You know us in our stand-up. We just love tag, tag, tag, tag, tag. Yeah, just keeps going. There's no conversation. It's just. Boom, boom, boom. So we're like, that's what we need to do on this show. And it can be about anything.

So it, you don't have to know MMA to watch this show. So like, in the first episode, sitting behind the announcers is a guy in a purple open, like button five down shirt. Shiny purport, like it had a wide open shiny shirt. He's, either a cokehead or a magician. And our joke was so a magician. That I always do that with, it doesn't matter how intense the fight is.

I always drift to the crowd. Pick a guy. He's in the crowd. Yeah. And my friend will be like, did you see that hit? I'm like, no. I was looking at the guy five rows up in who looked, was in two seats in a giant red shirt, probably explaining where the best place was to get caramel corn, you know?

And like he's mansplained to people who are not even there. Yeah. Like that to us. And I like it because of that too is that I don't know everything about UFC. Right. Like I don't. And to you kind of in a sneaky way get up to speed on UFC without like, where are you going to start? I'm just going to start watching matches.

But this is like, oh, this is a slow, funny way that I could actually be able to get through a conversation with Joe Rogan. Well, first of all, I love that. Well, yeah, I love that you. So Rogan is amazing. I watch him like commentate fights and you know in order for him to commentate a fight you have to be I think of like a color commentator like I don't know Tony Romo you know on the NFL or Troy Aikman it's like they played these guys know so much at everything they say lens you can't wait to hear their analysis of what is I feel the same way with Joe whenever he's calling a fight I'm like dude he has such good insights into what's going on and he's not he's not trying to be funny he's not trying to be funny he's not trying to push comedy into those moments. So he knows more than we'll ever know about this. And we're like, that's where we had to separate the show and say, okay, this is just a comedy. But there will be stuff for the diehard UFC fans that might go over a comedy fan's hands. But there's enough

comedy in there that people will say like, oh yeah, this is maybe I could get into this. So this is super interesting. So what was your path? Were you in on it early or did you come to it later? We came to it a little later. We were huge boxing fans. And from like, I mean, the 80s, we grew up fans of like, you know, those great, Hagler Hearns. Hagler Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard. That trio. What a great time to be a. Hagler Leonard and then Hearns Leonard and Hearns Hagler and great time.

They were the best. The best. I mean, Hagler Leonard, we like went to our friend Howard Opinski's house. That was like one of the first, we got this on pay per view. Remember you all sat down and watched that fight? And it was like, Hagler kind of beat him, but it was Sugaray and he got the win. Because he was like moving his feet late and you're like, oh, he's got an energy. And you're like, still dancing.

And you're like, well, I guess he didn't touch him up that much. But it was. So we were huge fans of boxing. And then, of course, you know, obviously Mike Tyson was, was fascinating to watch. And then we went back and watched all the Ali fights in the 70s, like after the fact and got really into that stuff. Yeah. And then as it started to make its way into the 2000s, boxing just started to have problems making the fights you wanted. Yeah.

Like how much? Yeah, because there's two different. There's no governing body that's saying this fight has to happen right now. It's like Bob Arum and Don King or have to sit together and say, well, my fighter wants this. When my fighter wants this and they never agree. And then it's a pissing contest between these two guys who aren't even fighting. So then they end up making the Pachiao Mayweather fight four years after it was supposed to happen. Right.

By the time it's done, his shoulders. Paciow's shoulders kind of messed up. And you're like, well, we didn't get to sing in all these crappy songs. He's running for like senator in like the Philippines. And you're like, this is not the fight. not when we wanted to see this fight. So in that moment, UFC just started making all the fights you want to see every month.

Right. And we were like, ooh, maybe this is like, and they started to get stars, Connor McGregor. They started to get Anderson Silva. All these guys who like, ooh,

this match is a match I want to see and it's coming up next week. And the women's fights. Ronda Rousey rose to like prominence. And you say to yourself, man, I love that there's a sport out there where guys will show up at the sport

and watch women be the headliners. Be the headliners of a car. Is there a champion? the boxing comes back? So are they need big, so. Or are fighters going towards UFC now just like if you're young and hungry? I think there's a little bit of that. I think there are still boxers.

So it's kind of like in in terms of like why aren't there a lot of African American, young African American baseball players. Well, because it's not as easy to just, you can't get 18 people together to go play a game. It's just a lot harder as, as opposed to saying, I'm going to go get three on three. You need six people, two and two, four people. Even if you're like playing flag football or whatever, you're just playing football, even tackle football or whatever,

you can get five on five. That's an easier prospect than getting a bat and getting catching gear. And you're never going to play it on the level that you're playing. Whereas full speed and basketball, full speed in that, it's just easier to play those other sports. So you're just not seeing it played as much. I think the same with these athletes are like, oh, I actually can make a name. I'm a good boxer,

but if I learn how to grapple, maybe I can make a name for myself. It's all fascinating. Exactly. Yeah, that's the thing. It's fascinating. But I think if you had two big time,

if there's a rivalry between people, I mean, you got to ask yourself, why are Jake Paul fights the biggest fights in the world right now? Right. He's not any of this. Because he's hyping it up. Right.

And you want to see him get his ass kicked. Right. He's smart like that. Right. I mean, I don't think he's a particularly smart dude, but he's savvy. No.

Yeah, no, definitely smart. So he's, he's, He's savvy because he's like, people want to see me get my ass kicked. And that's going to help me make more money. And so I'll play the villain even further. Right. It's kind of cool.

It is cool. It was funny in the clip where when the guys, he said, they're talking about, it's so new. And they're talking about the attributes that each fighter brings. Yeah. And one guy, the announcers are clueless because the sport is brand new. Right. And he said something like, and that, and he's, really talented as a boxing person.

And you're like, if only there was another word. Yeah. If only we had a word. You mean a boxer? You mean a boxer? Yeah, you could just say that. It's like a self-defense person. You mean a martial artist?

Like, say it. Say what it is? So again. It's so good and it's so crazy because what year is that? 93. Denver in 1993. So that was so old. It makes it look so old.

It makes it look like. Football player Jim Brown is the co-announcer, the color guy in the Joe Rogan seat. is Jim Brown. We're like, it's 1993. What was O.J. Simpson booked? Sorry. He was in the process of being booked.

I mean, it is the mid-90s. No, but there is that moment where you're like, they don't know what they're doing. They're just like, get this guy, get this guy, and just have them talk. And Jim Brown's like, I know. No budget. That Jim Brown, I had a dream just last night that O.J was given a real gig.

He was commentating. He was back in sports. Back in sports. Commenting, I don't know if it was college football or what, but he was doing, he was report. And I was like, wow, that's where we've come from circle where we're allowing. We're allowing that. People are like, well, whatever. And I woke up and I was like, what did he do?

Not that far fetched. What did he do that was so bad? He said he didn't do it. Yeah. He still says he wrote a book about how he would do it if he did do it, but he said he didn't do. So crazy. All that stuff is crazy. For us, again, it was like an excuse to.

make a super funny show. And of course we popped out. You saw Rob Cordry did a sketch in there. We included a lot of comedy store guys, which was really fun. And it has, now that you've been doing this long enough with your old show and this show, it's all like, I hate to say it, but I'm not going to say it. It's you. It's your voice now in this other medium beyond stand-up that like the set is like a similar to your old set. The vibe is similar.

The jokes are, of course, on point. Yeah. It really, you guys have really carved out. Because I'll admit, as your friends, when you first dabbled in sports in the very beginning. Yeah. I was like, I don't know them as sports. I know they're big Cardinal fans, but I didn't, I never thought you guys in sports.

I thought you in comedy. I thought you and smart jokes and that stuff. And then over time, it was like, oh, no, you guys have done now. And this is kind of just as I'm pontificating out loud. It's the only way you can't pontificate, I guess. Exactly. You can't do it in your head. That's just, that's just thinking. I like to be handing to myself.

Is that you, you carved out your thing. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's that comedy and classic sport thing that is, that is uniquely you. Thank you. No one else does it. Yeah, there aren't a lot of people doing it. And we always use it as an excuse to just launch into whatever else we're talking about. Right.

Like, how do we, how do we take this thing that's happening right here and have it be excuse. I'll give you an example. Some guy said, what are you going to do after you, Hoys Gracie wins the first UFC one? Announcer, I think it's Brian Kilmead from Fox and Friends. Okay. I was going to ask that. That's him, right? Crazy him. He goes, what are you going to do after this? He's like, I'm going to Disneyland. He said, I'm going to Disneyland. And we're like, why wouldn't you say Disney World? Like, Disney World's so much better than Disneyland. There's Epcottson's all this stuff. And they were like, I would go Knott's Berry Farm over Disneyland. There's alcohol at Natsbury Farm. There's no stupid ass characters, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

So like that rant was born out of a moment on the thing. And then it launches into a standup sort of premise or in our opinion a take or an opinion that has nothing to do with sports. Right. But it is a very iconic sports moment. The I'm going to Disney World moment. Yeah. And it, the fact that he was from Brazil and he kind of screwed it up and he said

Disneyland instead of Disney World and we caught him on it. Like that's what they're hammering it. It's so fun to be. be that petty to like catch on in that moment. And then it's like a million jokes about Disneyland. And now we're off into something. But again, you're like, well, so what do we love about Larry David? We love about that show is that he won't let the little thing go.

He just will not let it go. Jeff's like, go up and see the baby when they had the baby this years ago. Go see the baby. Say goodbye the baby. He's like, I don't want to see the baby. He's not going to remember. Go up and see the baby. Get the fuck up there and see the baby.

And he's like, well, I don't want to see the baby. He's right. You know what I mean? Like they're right. just go up and do it. Like, just let Hoyst Gracie say he's going to Disneyland. We're like, we can't. We can't.

We can't do it. We will not do it. We got to get into him. Yeah, I love those moments because you as a viewer, it clocks with you. It just something's awesome. Something's weird. And then you go back and be like, yeah, we saw it too. Right.

Going in on it. There's almost like a validation in what you just said. I know my eyes didn't deceive me. My ears didn't deceive me here. And if these guys are picking on it too, it kind of is like, hey, I, I, I, I, I, I didn't miss hear that. And then when you don't stop, it's like one of the things we do with each other. Like if you do something kind of funny and we know that and then every time we see you, we

bring it. I remember we were doing a cheap seats game where they put the apostrophe in the wrong place for Cheap seats episode. Cheap seats episode. Stanford Cal, 1982, but it should have been the apostrophe before 82. They put their apostrophe after the two.

So we're like, Stanford Cal 82 feet. So every time we come back to that graphic comes up, We're like, 82 feet. We just keep calling it out. And that's like such a comics thing to do with other comics. Do you ever do that? You're reading an article and like there's a misspelled word in the article.

I'm like, I know it's online and I know you probably had to rush to get this thing out. But I was like, come on. I mean, God, it just gets me every time. Every time. In books when you're like, no. In a book. In a book. This is the third edition.

Why are I the only got this flag list? I'll do so many hoops. You missed an eye. God damn it. Have you ever done a book? We have not. Have you, you've done a book?

I have. I just finished my third. Wow. Yeah. Is one of them about baking bread? No. They mention it. I know, but I feel like, I know.

You know, it's weird. I don't know. It's one of those things where, like, you tell your agent or whatever. Like, I should be on TV. I should be doing like a sketch show. And they're like, no, no one's buying sketch shows. And then like five years later, you've seen 12 sketch shows. I feel that with my bread thing with my agent, my book agent.

I'm like, I mean, people really know me for bread. He's like, man, food things aren't really selling. You're like, it's like, what? Everyone that comes on this podcast is either a comedian or someone with a book about food. Have you been to the cooking book section of like Barnes & Noble? Like, yeah, they're just not making those anymore. Yeah, I don't know. You know, it was really impressive.

I was in the bookstore the other day that Stephen King has his own. section. Like I was in fiction. Where is he? I was in horror. Where is he? No, it's just the Stephen King aisle. I mean, that's when you know, I mean, that's like when they name an airport after you, you know, you've done a lot of stuff, right? Stephen King has his own section. His own section. I mean, is there another writer who you think would, like maybe John Grisham, maybe? Maybe, but I feel like John Grisham, I don't know, I think there's still, right, there's still sub to the genre, to the genre, so to speak. Yeah, and not as much that had such an impact.

Like, you know, you can go through Stephen King of like, is it because his books were made into movies, right? Like he's, I'll never forget this. So we had a teacher that read to our class. This was so cool. I mean, we were probably in like fifth or sixth grade. We were young. Yeah.

Read to our class, uh, the book, The Mist, which is like, I mean, I turned into a movie, but like terrifying. A fog where monsters come. I'm not like as a kid you're like oh my god if this shit can happen it was just but it was mesmerizing and I'll never forget our teacher reading it to us of course it was the afternoon it was like so much this book took place during the day yeah yeah so scary he just he relates so well I mean he's so good at just any and I've seen him with grisham actually in interviews or

when they were together doing things and they both kind of have a little bit of a little bit of a what's the expression, a little craw on their neck? Is that an expression? The literati kind of dismisses them. Right. Not, you know,

they're not literature. They have a chip on their shoulders. Chip on their shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. And they're both like super successful. Totally. With people of all different age ranges,

all different education, I mean background. And they just can tell a story. So misery. I mean, like, that is just, to me,

all those stories are crazier than, the most effed up monster you could figure out. Like is the psychological stuff of a guy who's trapped. Trapped. Because she broke his fan. His biggest fan is he broke his ankles. I mean like the breaking of the ankles and the inability to leave somewhere, I think it's like people's biggest fear.

Like you ever had that dream where you're like trying to cross the street and your feet don't your legs don't work and you're like too slow and cars are coming at you? I mean, it's that feeling. But in a whole moon. in a whole movie. Amazing. So crazy. The first one I read of his was Kujo when I was like, it was a summer as a kid at the beach.

And I read Kujo. I know, far better book than movie. Yeah. It's like hard to get the dog to see. Yeah. Because like there's a mom. There's always like one shot in those types of movies. We're like, ah, he looks kind of cute.

I know. He's being cute. Look at him laying there. Maybe if I parented that dog, I could get him to be nice. Yeah. He had the disadvantage too of people making his movies not very well. well early on. So he wasn't a filmmaker.

So it's like he's an author. Also like we've learned a lot since that point. Yeah. We've learned how to make those films. Like now, if you think now our buddy Jonah Ray is off doing like a he's starring in a horror movie. Like you can make a great low budget horror. I think about, I mean, I was trying to talk to my daughter about I was thinking about, you know, all the Jordan Peel horror movies, which I would describe as cultural horror movies. Right.

Yeah. The same way that you're like, misery is a story about, really about fandom gone to the extreme. The cultural horror movies that Jordan Peel makes are just fascinating. Not crazy expensive to make. And getting more. Getting more.

But certainly the original one. Get out. I mean, you could have done that. I know when I was watching, I saw Nope over the weekend for the first time. And I was like, there was a moment where I was like,

oh, they were spending money. They got a budget. And he's earned it. And he's earned it. He's like, you're like, If you were to put it in a trilogy of movies,

like this is the third in the trilogy of style of movie that he's made. Scariest movie of all time? Scariest movie of all time for me is easily Silence of the Lambs. It is so terrifying, easily for me. So that is one that comes on and I will watch it again usually. Yeah. And just the helplessness of the woman down in the well in the guy's house. Yeah.

Is so. Again, that's a trap. didn't you can't go anywhere. Her begging, the dog barking and her begging to come out and her's like skinnier from not eating because he's trying to like get her. Put the lotion in the basket. Oh my God. It's so crazy.

It's so crazy and weird. And they're like, we are not shying away from anything. We're going to make you so uncomfortable as you're watching this. It's. Yeah. That's terrifying to me. You know, there was an old Martin Sheen movie, The Believer. Do you remember that was about a cult?

Oh, my God. This is just a crazy movie. where, I mean, do I want to give it away? There's something that happens in the beginning with spiders that is like it's insane. And I've never forgotten it. It was like a great thing. Something happened in the beginning with spiders. I don't want to give it away.

And we all are just like, we don't know what it is. We're like, this is awful. It has to do with. Yeah, it has to do with like voodoo, like causing these things to happen. Yeah. And it's just, you know, I guess I believe in that stuff more. Not more. It's like one click off reality where you're like, I don't know, voodoo can cause this to happen. But instead of this supernatural thing happening, I feel like we've gotten so much into.

But I will say this, I thought this last season of Stranger Things, the most recent season of was terrifying. So scary. Super scary. I know. Like those guys went back to the genre in the 80s, the Duffer brothers. I got to give them so much credit. They went back to the as twins, as twins, taking our market. No, those guys. They went back to the genre and really perfected it in all the ways. If you could go back, because it's like if you went back to Gremlins and you were like, yeah, man, these guys are like stuffed animals.

Like, we got to fix this thing right here. And then they were like, well, what if we made this 10 times scary? Well, you got to make this a lot bigger. And then you got to the jump point. Like, if you listen to, if you listen to the sound design on that, that show, it's remarkable. Yeah. And I remember Jay and oh my God. And also the fact that, and I think this is where horror movies get at the best,

the fact that it could happen to people in broad daylight, that they could be sitting across you, but then going into this horror world that there's nowhere to be safe. There's no door you can shut and be like in a closet being safe. Yeah. Like music is the only way to get you out of it is crazy. It was so good. So very psychological thriller.

It was so scary though. I remember the third. one I turned to my daughter. I'm like, what are they doing? She's like, it's fine. It's fine. Going back to the gremlins thing. Yeah.

My, never scared. I was like, I turned that on and I was like, you guys got to watch this. This was so great. Just thinking of my vague memory. This was great. This was great. I remember gremlins being great. And it's so not great.

And my daughter at one point, they're in the bar. They've all, all the gremlins are, all the bad gremlins have lost their shit. They're in the bar like causing havoc. And the, and the, and the, bartenders having to like pour them really quickly she can't just leave and my daughter just turns to me and goes and there's like a like a hundred of these gremlins probably 30 of these gremlins all like my daughter goes where'd they get the clothes? They're all in like suits and leather jackets all with gremlin size and she's like this is shit

this is bullshit so there was a movie like a horror movie about like rats taking over like and there were rats in a subway and it was like I'm like why are these people ride in the subway and there's all these rats and they're like flying at people's neck and stuff. But like if you've ever, you know doing sets in New York late at night and you just be waiting for the subway and you just see like basically armadillo's running as big as this loaf of rat. Like running down the third rail like not even afraid that like they're running on electricity and you're just like that's only making it stronger. That's movie scared the shit out of me. I'm like, yeah, those rats could get people. What about the shining?

Shining was great again because of the psychological. So I've gone down the rabbit hole of watching the videos of like Nicholson pumping himself up. Have you seen those videos online? Because you know, like, Shelley Duvall was like terrorized by the director, by Kubrick and a little bit by Nicholson. But they were like he made her feel like she was a bad actress and he made her feel like she was inadequate in an attempt. in an attempt to make her feel the way they were. Unnerved. And she was unnerved.

She was unnerved. She became unhinged. And just in that scene where he's like, he's walking up to her on the steps and she's swinging the bat. Or just the scene where like the chopping of the door happened like in the kitchen of the hotel really. And they're like, we're going to shoot from under here on your side of the door to Nicholson. And like you see him like pumping himself up and getting sight. up for this very iconic moment that we all remember. And you're like, wow, man, this is like crazy filmmaking.

Yeah. I don't even know if they do that anymore. That was, yes, that was super scary. Like when I was a kid seeing that for the first time. Just the blood coming down the hall. The blood and the girls, the twins and the big wheel. The sounds, v. The little kid's voice when he's doing the finger and you're like,

scare the hell out of me. So there was a great exhibit. Did you ever do bumbershoot? phenomenal like comedy festival for those who don't know. I don't know if they still do it, but like it was really popular around 2000, 2001 and all that stuff. So phenomenal comedy. Right.

No, it was up in Seattle right around the space needle. So the reason I tell the story is that when we were up there one time, we went to the EMP, the experimental music project, which I believe is like a Paul Allen funded Bill Gates funded museum, music museum, which to me, I think the only other museum that is as good from a music standpoint, is the rock and roll hall thing in Cleveland,

which I love, absolutely love. I'm sure you've done hilarities and they let you go over there and do the tour, which is amazing. But they had an exhibit at the EMP when we were up for Bumershoot that was, was it Bummershoot or we were just doing the club? I think we were just doing the club.

That was sound in movies and kind of like, and really in horror movies. So they did the, and they have like little booths with showing the movie and showing parts of why they're there. Okay, so like how the sound in a movie You're talking about the sound from the Texas chainsaw massacre? That was the one that got me because they were like,

they wanted there to be this tension all the time. So it's Texas, it's hot, it's the summer. They have the cicadas like, shh, yeah, like going in the background and you were just like, this is scary. They wanted the sound to be like another character. Like remember in the Sopranos, like Tony Sopranos breathing to me was always like another character. You just like waited for his breathing.

I'm like, yeah, let's let his breathing way in on this. And it was just like the weird Tony Soprano breathing. It was like so much. It's really true. Same thing. The one that messed me up, I had a fever as a kid. And my parents just put me on the couch. Yeah.

And left the TV on. And the exorcist came on. Oh, my God. And just possession and all of the. That a little girl could have that kind of. kind of crazy demonic. I did not sleep for a month. I literally was on my sister's floor for the rest.

I mean, a fever, you're already messed up. And then they're saying this is real. You're like, I'm sick. This is where I'm going. Again,

it wasn't a monster. So that was the same issue with the kid, which was that something was possessing this child. Something was moving his voice and his finger. And it wasn't them. And so it wasn't this giant scary monster. But also the beauty of like going crazy. Like what is going crazy mean?

Am I seeing things? Am I seeing this guy who's the old hotel director standing this old British guy next to me? Is that real or is it not real? Yeah. Like what is real and what is it real? Are we inside of Nicholson's mind? Are we inside of his brain or are we watching this? You ever hear how Stephen King wrote that?

No. There's a story where he was a, he was on a trip and he stopped in that hotel. Yeah. And he was trying to quit smoking, I think, and was, I'm probably butchering this. I just hear Stephen King going, no. But he got up, I think he had a nightmare or something and got up and got a cigarette and was just staring out the window. And by the time the cigarette was done, he said he knew exactly what the story was. Wow.

He just knew the whole thing. He just felt something creepy and it just all came to him. Let's talk about that for a second because inspiration and like, I'm curious. And creative process. Yeah. Like how do you come up with your bits? Obviously you live your life and you're like, do you have, like, are you, do you have a thought and then like within two, three minutes it's a fully formed bit? No.

But I mean, once and while you'll get something like, oh, that's going to be funny. Yeah. That'll be like in the, you know, I don't think ever fully formed. But maybe maybe a maybe the heart of it is. Yes. Right. you know, and then you'll just build out. And build around it.

But I have to say, like, the, you know, I'll, as you go through your day or whatever, and you get something funny, and I'm used to write on paper, and I put it in notes on my phone. And once in a while I'll go up at Comedy Cellar, the new joke night. You just give it like five, ten minutes. And I'll just go through that list. It's awesome. Such a low hit rate. You know, really?

But is the audience? They're primed for it. They're fine. They're good. They're fine. Yeah. they know what you're doing right it's it's so they're they're more excited to see the process and how you're going yeah but it's interesting i'm just kind of talking it out like i think earlier it was

you're constantly like mining stuff like from the outside and i think recent years it kind of comes from inside a little bit more yeah right you know what i mean yeah it's a little more internal yeah so i i i feel the same way like i was asking my son to do something the other day simple like can you take those empty cans of La Croy and they're on your nightstand. Can you please take those into the kitchen? Yeah. Like a low, and his response, because he's a teenager now, and like, he was like, what? Seriously.

And I'm like, he's talking to me like I'm the police chief asking him on the week of his retirement to go out on one more mission. And so like that once I was having that moment, I was like thinking about like, can you just go investigate one murder down the I'm not asking you to do that and so as an active shooter at a mall can you just go I know you're retiring at four just go it's one last thing can you

somebody took hostages at a bank I just need you to go down there and check it I know you're retiring in 15 minutes it's fine I'm like can you take these little croyce to the kitchen he's like I'm getting too old for this shit I'm like what Danny lover but no but like that little moment yeah it all like as he was doing it to me, like all of a sudden those like, it's almost like two puzzle pieces just like in front of

my face fit together. Yeah. Because his reaction reminded me of that thing and all of a sudden I started to see a little bit of what the bit could be. Now, I don't know if we're ever going to do that bit or if it works or whatnot. Yeah, yeah. But like just I wasn't looking for that to happen. Yeah. It was just the request mixed with the response mixed with what that showed me in front of my face. All right. But what about bigger things? What about like an idea for a script or an idea for a show like those kind of you know you'll you'll finish up a project and you're like what are we doing what do we do next beyond stand-up what's going to be the next thing right how does that come up do you do you go about hammering it out and making it or do you give yourself a beat and see

if something drips in so I mean we were like what is important to us and what do we feel like we can can how do we feel we can bring something new to to it in a way that hasn't been seen before. What can we do? I mean, it's crazy. I mean, you should talk about the Meltzer of it all, this guy, Simon Sennick, because this is fascinating. Yeah, we've been talking about this a lot,

partially just to keep saying it out loud. But our friend Brad Meltzer, who is like a John Grisham like novelist, who we went to college with, he's written like a number of New York Times bestselling novels that are actually kind of fun. It's like imagine if, like, you know, John Grisham had a sense of humor. Like the Pelopin grief was funny

Or like you know The characters are funny The situations are intense And page turners and whatnot But the characters are funny And he writes in a way That speaks specifically to our generation And a little younger

And so What's his name again? Brad Meltzer Brad Meltzer He's a great phenomenal author And he We were on this hike recently For our friend's 50th birthday

He was like Get yourself to Switzerland And we're gonna hike around Mount Blanc For like nine days And I was like the first trip As you know Because you travel a lot for work and whatever it is if you're shooting a movie or a TV show

or you're going to do stand-up. It's hard to then say to your family, hey, I'm going to go take a trip just for me. No, with us? No. With my wife? No, it's just for me. Right? That's like almost asking. It's literally asking like, can I get into the Denver U.S. Treasury just to look around? Right. No, you can't fucking do that. You don't even ask.

Right. No. So we did, but we felt like it was a once-in-lifetime thing. And then out of it came this experience. So Meltzer was telling me about how he got connected with this guy before this guy I did a very famous TED talk about sort of finding your purpose. And I should go back and watch the TED talk. I've seen little clips a little and I've seen pieces of it. And really what he's... But we keep talking about it.

So we're giving this guy tons of credit. He did sort of essentially a thing about how, you know, you want to find your sort of mission statement, your purpose. It's like a dartboard on the outer circle is what you do inside of that is how you go about what you do. And in the core, in the center is why you do what you do. And that sort of gets at what you're trying to say with all of your work. What is your overarching thing?

all the things you're doing. Right. So before this guy was going and talking to companies about that for them, you know, our friend Brad, he wanted to write a book about this thing. And so our friend connected them. And Brad said, all right, in the morning, how about I? I'm taking Brad's story, but he's in the morning, how about I, you tell me what my thing is. And in the afternoon, I'll help you write a book proposal.

And very wise, very cool. Yeah. So they went through it and he asked him all these questions and he dug into his life. And he got deep into like his work, his first of all, his life, his relationships, and then his work. And he came away after hours of questions saying, I think what your mission statement is, is that, or I don't know what he called it, but he said, I think it's that you think regular people have the power to save the world. And Brad was like, yes. And Brandon and are like, yes, that's the theme of every one of his work, of his books. That's what he's putting out there in everything in all of his children's books and his adult books. And it's really his what he believes. And it's fascinating. And a great message and really cool. So all the while he's talking. about this. We're hiking and it's like nine hours of walking. And I'm thinking to myself, what is our mission? What are we saying with our work? What are we doing? And more I was mulling it

over and thinking about it. And only a trip like this can give you the space to have that kind of thought. Yeah, of course. Because you're not going to pick up the kids doing this or whatever logistics here, there, or the other. So I'm like, I think I have it. And I went to Randy and I was like, I think this is what we're trying to say with our stuff. And it's simple. And it was, and it came to me very easily. It is this. We are better together than we are alone. That's so great. That's who we are. That's the point of our UFC show. You know what's so funny. One of everything we do. You know, it's so funny. One of the things that I took away from watching the UFC show, legit, from just watching it down, was I was literally said to myself out loud, not pontificating, that, uh,

They really still love being with each other. It's fun. We have fun together. I mean, in, this is just, if it's going to come through, this is just a promo for the beginning of the show. Right. Just watching the two of you, I was like, God damn, they really genuinely. So we've worked hard to figure out how to do that.

And I think also the fact that we have separate families and we have our own lives. And so when we come together to do comedy, it is special now. We don't take it for granted. But that's a, yeah, well, you shouldn't because it says, sorry to. interrupt you, but that is, I was just like, how could you not be tired of each other at this point? You've lived your whole life. I know that this is a twin connection, but it's beyond that. Like, you guys have called, maybe because of the work you're doing. Yes. Yeah. You like the joyful space. That's it. That's right. But you, I just saw the glimmer in both of your eyes at this one moment. I think you

fist bumped each other or did something. Yeah. We were almost just on each other and not. And I'm like, they still get a kick out of each other. That's it. And I think so because that is a real moment. Yeah. To people see that. And they're like, well, these guys are better together. It's kind of what he was saying. They are better together. And do you think that that translates to people and how they should live their life? Totally.

I do. And I think it is something that we can teach the world. I do think it's something that people tell us when they watch the nosebleeds and when they watch cheapseeds. They're like, man, I felt like I was on the couch hanging out with you guys. And we're like, oh, you mean like we were together. Right. When we come and see you backstage and watch a set of years, our favorite moment isn't just watching

you do it. It's when you come off. We're like, can I pitch you one bag for your thing? and we riffed together and we hang out. The hang at a comedy club to us is as valuable as the moments being on stage. Why? Because we are together. Y'all never forget.

You were like, come do this show. I forgot, it was during the pandemic and there was like a giant sneeze guard in front of us, but a band behind us. We found a studio in the middle of Burbank. Oh, my God. It was so much fun. And it was at a time when people were the most nervous

about performing. But like, we rode that high of just being around you and other comments for days. You made that experience so fun. It's so fun. And it wasn't just because we had stage time. It was because we all got to hang out a little bit. And to see each other.

See each other home. That was half the joy of it. Yeah. No, you're right. That was like, I mean, that came out of just, I have to, we just have to do something. That's great. Missing this thing. And you took care of us.

And you paid us twice. This is what I love. You got a microphone. Didn't you get a microphone out of it? But what I loved about you is that, you know, we jokingly say, you know, people ask us, what's the best part about being a comedy team. And we say it's that we get to split the money. which is terrible.

It's awful. You should be paid twice. Right. But you paid us twice. I'll never get that. I know it's like a small thing. It was like an extra hundred bucks, but it was,

it was the gesture that was so cool. It was you saying like, I know you guys have to do this together, but I look at you as individually too common. It wasn't, please, it wasn't even a thought. It was just like, of course. But what was really special about that night

was it was at the woodshed. Yeah. And it was, for the first time, I saw, I realized what I was missing from that whole pandemic scary time was seeing comedians translate this and digest it and spit it back out. Oh, yes. And it was like, oh, he was dealing with fear this way. It was like that we take for granted that we get to see these smart, funny perspectives all the time in our lives.

Processing what we're all going through. Exactly. And that was absent. Yes. That was absolute. Yeah, like when, you know, you never want something bad to happen anyone. Yeah. But if you ever want to like hear what it's like to go through like cancer or something like that, right.

Go listen to Tignitaro talk about it. Yeah. Like she's got the best perspective about everything. She's so funny. All the health stuff that she went through to hear her talk about it. It is almost like it makes you feel like, okay, I can go through the. Yeah, you're not alone. Just her saying it's going to be okay.

It's going to be okay. It's not. It might not be okay. It's probably not going to be okay. It's not okay. I mean, like, go to that place. It's hilarious. It's so good.

It's how we process these big events and what we have. Yeah. And you gave that gift to us. And then it fit into our thing, which is that we are better together than we are on our own. We need each other. Yeah. And if we can put that out there like overtly or subtly or whatever, you know, like, I think that's valuable.

All right. So let me, you were saying, it's, it's all. Perfect and beautiful. I really, and it's like second nature. Like, it really is, that is your thing. It's nice to hear it actually summed up. And then to talk just for a minute about how, how small-minded wheat can also be.

I paid you twice, apparently, on that show. Yeah. You want that money back now. How much do you leave? And I'm big fans of yours. But when I was making these breads this morning, I was like, do I have to make two? Do I have to make two?

I love it. But you did make two. You did make two. I did. You did make two and it's still warm and I mean it again, but that shows your attention. So what I would say is if you were to sort of do this little exercise about yourself, your attention to that detail is everything. You're never, you're never sloppy in anything you do.

Nothing. Like I was watching clips of your, of the special, I don't know if it was the last special with the beautiful 1970s set. Yeah, a couple ago, yeah. It was, that's like running through my TikTok, like great little clips of that. Or also, I was thinking a lot about the stuff you were doing on the NPR show that we did. Yeah, the life from here. Yeah, that was so much fun.

Those pieces were great, but there's never anything sloppy. Yeah. Or wasted. So when you dress, a lot of times you are wearing a suit and you look super, like everything you do. Yeah. From the writing to the joke writing, to the premises, to the way you present yourself to your performance. So the way you do this show, look at this set. I mean, it's just all like, you, nothing is sloppy.

Right. And when you, I would say, I would say that one of my things, and this might not be your thing, is that for you, the details matter. Yeah. Not as my, not as my core missions. Yeah. But I think that's, that's part of what you do. Yeah.

It's a good exercise. I think you should go to work at these things for sure. I think, I think so. Yeah. For sure. Well, I'm glad I made two brezum. I'm glad I paid you twice. Yes.

The name of the show is. The nosebleeds, you can watch the first episode for free on UFC's YouTube page or just go to our Instagram at Sklar Brothers. We have the link in our bio. Please watch that. We want as many people as we can to watch that so that they'll be like, let's make a bunch more. If you love it, you can get a subscription to Fight Pass and watch the other five. Great guest stars.

Andy Richter. Can you guys get to go to fights? Yeah, we did go to some fights at the apex and it was fascinating and awesome. Amazing and cool. And again, hopefully as we go forward, if they allow us to make more, we know we'll just get more kind of involved in it. And again, we love every sport. If you were like, hey, you guys got to go cover this ultimate frisbee thing or like go to this thing right here.

We'd be like, there's a adult kickball league. Yes, we will. A certain level of showmanship that we need to get in there and figure out and make fun of. Well, thank you for coming. This was really great. Always great spending time with you all. Thanks for day drinking with me. Cheers.

Appreciate it. All right. I'm not going to do that. We got it, Aaron. There you go, kids. That's the big show. Check out the nose bleeds. it's a very funny show on YouTube and UFC's Fight Pass.

Very funny. Go to any social media with the Sclarz, and you will find the right links and all this stuff. It's a very funny show. I can't wait to watch more. It's really evergreen stuff, and just to see where the beginning of UFC started off is just hilarious. And, of course, it's packed with jokes,

as are the Sclarz as human beings. Go to Tompapa.com. Look up all of my tour dates. I'm rolling all over the country, and this was a fun one. We should do more day drinking.