Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 262 - Ike Barinholtz

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

This week Ike Barinholtz joins us at the table! He's a renaissance man! He writes, acts, AND cooks. He's so skilled, his talents rubbed off on his father who starred in Jury Duty. Tom and Ike discuss the future of Hollywood, possibly starring in a movie together, and share their favorite recipes! Enjoy! Go to WildGrain.com/PAPA for free croissants and $30 off your first box. Use promo code PAPA at checkout. Get 50% Off Your One Month Trial with Trade, at drinktrade.com/PAPA ---------------- 0:00:00 Intro 0:00:23 Wild Grain Ad 0:01:17 AI and appearance 0:05:25 Running Point & The Studio 0:10:32 Working w Seth & Cast of The Studio 0:13:55 Future of Hollywood 0:22:10 New ideas 0:26:45 Ike's dad becoming an actor on Jury Duty 0:39:00 YouTube algorithm 0:40:05 Cooking chicken cutlets 0:42:39 Drink of choice 0:44:45 Cooking growing up & in Amsterdam 0:46:08 Wild Grain Ad 0:48:19 TomPapa.com 0:49:02 Trade Coffee Ad 0:52:27 Uncomfortable moment 0:55:56 Bad news doesn't travel in Hollywood 0:58:00 Roasted potatoes recipe and cooking 1:03:07 Lemon pasta 1:06:48 Ozempic 1:08:38 Running Point 1:13:07 Ike's "other" projects 1:14:39 Chile Colorado ---------------- Tom Papa is a celebrated stand-up comedian with over 20 years in the industry. Watch Tom's new special "Home Free" out NOW on Netflix! Patreon.com/BreakingBreadWithTomPapa Radio, Podcasts and more: https://linktr.ee/tompapa/ Website - http://tompapa.com/ Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/tompapa Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tompapa Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/comediantompapa Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/tompapa   #tompapa #breakingbread #comedy #standup #standupcomedy #bread #thestudio #runningpoint #appletv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's like true grit is an expression meaning someone who has tough metal. and you're like, it's not asking about the film. I want to show you what chat GPT did for me. I asked for some, where is it? This is a great podcast right now. This is really good. Do you have it? The images that they put of me?

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Both those images look like they would host a film critic show. And neither them look like you at all. Two thumbs down. down and yeah, not looking like top of it. Do you know what you look like on AI? No, just in general. Like when you, like, because when you said, when you just said neither of those look like you, I was like, oh, thanks for that confirmation because I'm thinking maybe that is what I look

like and I just don't see it. I definitely think I look better than I do. You think you look better than you do, right? I don't look as good as I think I do. Oh, interesting. You know what I mean? I think sometimes I'm like, I'm looking, like I'll be on the red carpet. You're looking pretty good.

I'll be like, I'm kind of killing this moment. And then I'll see the photo the next day. I'm just like, ooh! Hey, everybody. Oh, oh, oh. So I have a distorted. I feel like I look, I'm somewhere on the Wahlberg spectrum.

Uh-huh. You know, not quite Mark, not quite Donnie, not quite the one who owns the hamburger stance. But you do, for the record, I mean, you know, you're humble, but you do get up at 3 in the morning to work out every day. And pray. And pray. Would you get a quick prayer break real quick?

I get my prayer app. I have a new prayer app. It's a rival one. What's it called? Faith app. Faith app. I'm sure there's a faith app. Are you lying about your faith app?

No, it's important to me. I take it very seriously. Yeah, so somewhere in there. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Three o'clock. Three o'clock. We had Joel McHale on, and he told us that he,

so if he travels and has like a, 6 a.m. flight where you've got to leave the house around 4.30. He'll get up early to make sure he gets his workout in before he goes. It's crazy. I will say, he's got a great body. He does. Whenever I see him, I'm like, he's tall. Yeah. His muscles. He's very muscular. It's very tough to do. Yeah. It's all great for comedy.

He's one of the guys who kind of blows that out of the... Normally comedy guys, you've got to be built like, I don't know, like Buddy Ebson. Yeah. Right. Or like Farley or something. Honestly, like the fat chat GPT image of me, I'm like, that guy would be pretty successful. That's a very successful sitcom actor.

Absolutely. You know what I mean? Like, that guy is really going to kill it. People don't like you to be in between. No. No. And when comedy people really get tense sometimes, people get a little upset. Right.

Congratulations on your new series. Thank you. Running Point. It's available to stream on Netflix. Do you mind if we stream a couple episodes real quick? Yeah, could we? Maybe do a little live commentary. Wait, running point?

Running point. Oh, and then, oh, I was talking about the studio. Yeah, studio, yes, sorry, yes. The studio, because it hasn't come out yet. You work so much. Well, they just happen to kind of drop at this around the same time. You do work a lot, though. Are you offered only at this point?

I wake up at 3 a.m. Even on days where I have flights. Just to go over my lines. Do you just get offered things now, or do you still have to audition? I will still get asked to audition. for things and I would audition if it was like, you know, the right thing, you know. Sure.

A lot of times it's just things where I'm like, what? An independent movie shooting in Michigan. Which, you know, whatever. But, you know, I like to, I write. So I'm able to kind of do that. And then every once in a while, you get like a show like the studio where I'm acting in that too,

which is. That looks very cool. Very fun. Very fun. We just were in Sacki and had the premiere, which was, it played great. Why is everything on Apple TV look like a great movie?

Like money? Money, honey. So they're putting just, what is it physically? It's like the cameras are better, the cinematographer is better? They have a secret bunch of cameras that no one knows about. It really does feel that way.

No, I think it really does come down to, I think they, you know, they do put a lot of money into their shows into the production of their shows. Right. You know, and they're, That gives, like, when you have guys like Seth and Evan who have a real vision, it allows them to hire, you know, people like Julie was our production designer, Julie Berghoff, who's just a genius and created this insane-looking lush world. Yeah, it's just, it's beautiful.

It's gorgeous. It was the nicest set I've ever been on. Really? Yeah. You feel it when you're there. Yeah, just, and the way they're shooting it, it allows them to, you know, have Adam, you know, have Adam. our cinematographer just create these insane looking shots. Yeah.

Just a lot of movement. And so I think that's, you know, it's really nice to have shows that invest or have places that invest in their shows. Yeah. Yeah. Man, everything looks good. And I'm not saying everything on Apple's good. But when I watch it, but when I watch it, I feel like, you know what? I'm not going to tell anyone I don't like this because this looks good.

They make it look nice. They really do. Tim Cook, Tim Apple. Yeah, he's doing really good. But what is your character in it? Seth is this big, he gets to run a studio. Yeah, so the show's centered around a studio, hence the title. But it's one of the last movie studios in town that's not owned by like, you know, a multi-billion dollar.

Yeah, you know, streaming company. And in the first episode, he kind of, we're both creative executives there. Okay. And kind of old buddies. And the head of the studio, who's played by the great Catherine O'Hara, she leaves and is fired. And so I kind of think I'm going to get the job. And Seth thinks he might get the job and he gets the job.

And my character, Sal, kind of instantly makes the decision to like, okay, what do you need, boss? You know what I mean? Like, get on board. Write him and. How can I continue working here? Because I really don't want to move to Carl's Bad and work for my brother-in-law at his fucking app.

So, yeah, so, you know, the show really, you know, it's a, I think a blistering love letter in a way, in a way, because these guys love this town. They love this business. Yeah. And, but they also are very honest about kind of the way it's, it is right now, the way it's perceived right now, what people are trying to do. So they thought setting a comedy in that world would be really funny and interesting. And I think they did it. Perfect timing. Yeah, so great. How funny are you in it? On the giggle scale? Yeah. On the giggle meter. Did they give you a lot of funnies? They gave me the analytics I got back from Apple. We're pretty staggering.

Yeah. The laugh ratio, they haven't seen this in years. I've heard since Don Nott's. I wish. I wish I was getting Don Nott's laughs. Jesus. Could you imagine? Oh, my God.

So the good news is you're somewhere in between the Apple Dumpling gang and Threes Company. No. You know, they wrote a really fun character. He is definitely like, and he's been working at the studio for like 25 years, so he was there in the 90s, 2000s, which it was crazy. And so he definitely holds on to that kind of, let's party and say whatever we want. Yeah. And watching him kind of try to succeed in the modern world just kind of lends itself to,

you know, a lot of pressure cooker elements. And you're out there, too, with like Seth, who I've done movies with. What have you done with Seth? We did neighbors together. Neighbors, neighbors too. And then over the years, we've just done, like, we were both on Eastbound and Down. And he was on the Mindy Project.

So we've been on set together. He produced blockers. Right. But getting to act, you know, every day for many months at a time, with him and a great actress named Chase Sweet Wonders, who plays kind of the young buck who's, you know, trying to jockey her position. And then Catherine Hahn.

who is, I've been obsessed with for many, many years. Oh, cool. And now to get to work with her, which she's just playing this part, full tilt. Yeah. She is just insane and so, so funny. So it was just a blast. Does Seth smell like marijuana all the time?

I mean, I'm not with him all the time, but often. Right. When you're with him. Actually, no, he actually kind of doesn't. He is just, he has a general essence, and like it's not like Tommy Chong, you know what I mean? Yeah. But he manages to keep it all together.

That's the frustrating part about watching him as a fan is that he's so funny and good. And then you watch his social media and you're like, is he high all the time? And then you think, oh, maybe I could be high all the time. And then I can't function. Right. Like some people can do things in life and manage. being high. And there's some people, just to be clear,

it's like, let's really take a look at your job. Right. If you're a writer, you can probably, you know, figure something out. Yeah. If you're an air traffic controller, let's just not even think about that. Right.

Exactly. Yeah, but they are built different, and he is sweet generis, and yeah, you know, he's just, and he's just a great guy. So funny. Yeah. So funny and just, like, incredibly patient

as a producer and a director, like his character on the show loves classic cars, right? So he's constantly whipping all around town and like ridiculous, like a 1962 Maserati. And so a lot of times my character would be with him driving around in these cars. And because their old cars,

they're just constantly getting fucked up and like stalling out. And like there was one night where we were like literally like right by the Chateau-Mormand. traffic is stopped and we're trying to do like a 360 turn and whip into the driveway and like the car just keeps flooding you know and the transpo guy got bless him's like hey this is the only one of these cars that exist I don't know what you're telling you know and and I know me and like I'm a pretty patient person yeah and and I know that after like three takes I'd be like all right we're not doing this we're we're just going to walk across the street yeah but sad would just be so patient just like oh ho ho all right right right we're going again. And it was really

ready yet? Yeah, I just, I don't know if that's the Canadian in him where he's just incredibly he knows what he wants and he, you know, I think expects people to to give it their best.

Right. But he's not like, he's just not the kind of guy who's like freaks out. Yeah, yeah. It's really nice. Maybe that's that because of the week. Right.

Yeah, yeah, maybe. What do you think is going to happen with Hollywood? We're in this very weird time where, you know, these little, these people who make things on Instagram are checking things out in the studios and they're empty. And we know a lot of people that are out of work. And, you know, we came out here and it was like, it was exciting.

And there was always a feeling that stuff was happening. Yeah. And now it feels like a little. Can we finish this up because I have an interview with Vinny DeMoron from Instagram? It's just, his analytics are really crazy. And he can see me in the next half hour. So if we could. I'm sorry to interrupt with a bad joke.

It was pretty good. Thank you. The Natskill were we are. It was so good that I didn't know. I pretended to laugh because I wasn't sure if I was missing it. Just not getting it. Ah, God. Do you like all the pastures I got you?

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I love that like so many times the dessert. They're like, this is a bread pudding I win. They have to make something fast. So many bread puddings. But what is your vibe on LA, for real? On L.A. I'm... You love it here.

I'm bullish on L.A. I do love L.A. I've been here a long time. I'm from Chicago. I've been out here almost 25 years. You know, I've seen a change a lot. I love Hollywood. I love show business.

I think it's cool that we live in a town that is centered around an industry that is centered around art. Yeah. It's a really cool thing. You know, obviously I have a lot of friends here, not just actors and writers, but crew members for so long.

So I do love showbiz. I think the nature of entertainment, like you said, is changing so much. I do believe in Eben flows to a certain extent. Like I do believe things come in waves. Like a couple years ago, they were like, oh, movies are dead because of COVID. And then you had Barbie and Oppenheimer come out,

and everyone went to the theaters and saw Maverick. And so, like, you had a resurgence. Yeah. And I am a believer that it really does kind of take, like, just a couple great movies, a couple of great shows to get people really excited. But I do think something has kind of fundamentally changed a little bit forever. I think the places that make stuff, I think, like, just a lot of trillions of dollars of capital have vanished from America in the last, since we've started.

So much money's gone. And it just feels like, you know, they still need a lot of content. There will always be a need for content. There always has been on some level. But they will try to make as much stuff or maybe a little less for cheaper, right? I think that's going to be a big thing. You know, I think people who, you know, they definitely want people who are like, hey, I made a show by myself, you know, and now they'll pay you money on it.

And ostensibly, you're paying out, you know, people who have worked on it. your talent and your crew and stuff. So that's a model that that's, you know, and again, along with the despair and sadness of seeing this contraction hits so many people we know, a lot of friends of mine, just like, yeah, I'm fucking out.

You know what I mean? I'm moving. I'm getting out of the business. Yeah. And that sucks and it's just horrible. And it's just, yeah, that's a huge bummer. I try to also find, like, things are still excite me about it. I loved a Nora.

Yeah. And I thought the fact that a guy made a basically like a comedy for $6 million that one best picture that people are now starting to watch is inspiring. It's exciting. It's exciting and cool. And like it's like it reminds me of like when they thought movies were kind of dead. And then guys like Soderberg started showing up. And then they had a whole new wave of Tarantino and stuff.

Yeah. So they're amidst a lot of uncertainty and a lot of. just hard times. I, you know, I try to recognize that, but also find things that are, yeah,

exciting. Yeah. You appreciate like a great show when you, you know, shows that you have to watch. Yeah. We're very, like Sunday nights and then we're like,

we have to watch White Lotus. You know what I mean? Like that is a thing that I think. And I know to kind of, you know, if you call it like a, like a positive is if they, you know,

do end up making like less stuff, maybe that means that people will still watch, but people will start to watch more of the same thing and we'll find, like, to redevelop a monoculture a little bit. Yeah, that would be nice. It's just nice if there's things that I think, you know, one of the things about what we do is that it gives people like a thing to talk about.

Yeah. You know, it's just, it's just so. And then we're all in watching the same thing, like that universal experience. Yeah, like we'll never ever again get like the mash finale. Yeah. But like just to have things that I think, think people like, even like Game of Thrones was a thing where it's like, you know what I mean,

where it's like people were really excited and different kinds of people, not just showbiz people. So anyways, that that is another possible bright part of what's... Yeah, yeah. You know, I had a series of meetings, not to brag. Wow. Where I went on... Really through that in my face. Where I went on, uh, on, into buildings with people. Did they give you water? And they gave me water and a pass. You got the pass. If you get the pass. And you parked.

I don't leave for hours even after the meeting. I really, I just wanted to stay. It really was so great. I call people. I can't talk right now. I'm in a building. I'm on the lot.

And it really was great. And like they don't meet with a lot of people. Like it's all just, but it made me think like if I'm walking through and having these meetings with these people, like maybe it's starting to happen a little bit more. And you have all these bright people, you know, the people that work there and the people that are pitching.

And it's like, everyone wants to do it. Yes. And I don't think that I think I remember somebody saying after COVID it was going to take us 10 years to get back to what we were 2019. You know what I mean? And we're at five. Yeah. I mean. And it feels like it's, I don't think it's going to go to 10. I don't think we need that. But I feel like it's you can feel the wheel starting to. Yeah. I really, I really hope so. And again, too. Like it just it's always been the same thing where it just takes that one thing to kind of. start a little fire and just kind of then get everyone really excited for the whole thing. And then people start reinvesting in it again. I think you will have like smaller entities. You know, like I love that we have companies, you know, like A-24 now, neon, and just some of these great smaller places that will make great stuff. Yeah.

Try to keep it, you know, the costs down a little bit. Make a profit. Make a profit. And then people will see that, oh, yeah, that's a good. thing to invest in. Yeah, the model of a movie has to make a billion dollars to make money. I don't know anything, but I know that that can't possibly. I'm no economist, but yeah, so hopefully they figure it out a little bit. Yeah. Are you always noodling around with your own ideas? I know you write and do stuff like, do you? Yeah. Yeah, I still get like goose a little bit when I think of like,

oh, that would be a good show. And then I think about it for like three or four days. I'm like, oh, my God, this is going to be great. And then I, like, Google it. I'm like, oh, this was done like two years ago. Somebody already did this. Yeah, it's done. It's on the air right now.

Yeah. That happened to me one time with a podcast where I wanted to do a podcast, but I wanted, like, a fun hook for it, you know? Yeah. And like, like, bread-based? Like, like, basically it was not baking bread, but if I was, like, making rice. Right. Definitely a starch-based podcast. I'm going to take my bite of this right along before I tell us.

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Oh, that's so nice. But we were on vacation when we were in Long Island. I was like, I was sitting out there on Long Island Sound. I was drinking beer and like hitting a one hitter. And I was like listening to Billy Joel. And I was like, oh my God, what if I did a podcast? We Didn't Start the Fire.

Where each episode is one of the things from the song. And I get an expert on that thing. And then like a funny friend. So like, yeah. If it was like, what's the first one? Red China. Yeah. China, Johnny, Ray.

Maybe. Red China. I get like an expert on China. Right. And like you. You know what I mean? And like having a very stupid conversation. That'd be great.

I've never in my life been more excited. I spent the next 48 hours like writing notes down, like ignoring my family being like, oh, that's a good one for Bobby Lee. You know? Sigman Ree, Robbie Lee. That's perfect. You know? And I'm mapping it all up my head.

And I'm imagining me accepting like a podcast award, you know? And then, like, two days in, I was like, I'm going to, Frank, get the rights to the name right now. And I looked it up, and there's a podcast, it's the exact same concept. No. The whole thing? The whole thing. I mean, it's just two people doing it, breaking it down. But I was just like, God, dear my doing it.

And they were, like, already into it. You know, I was like, ah, it's a bummer. Oh, that would have been a good one. So I'm going to do it with, it's the end of the world, and we know it. Yeah, you can do that. Yeah, it's another name list-based song podcast. I wonder what has more things in it. Definitely we didn't start the fire.

Yeah. Yeah. Can he still sing that off the top of his head at his age right now? Depends how many bottles of vino he's had. I was in Italy one time. We went to this restaurant that my friend told me you got to go to called La Jostra. I walked in. So the best thing you could see when you walk into a restaurant.

Billy Joel going like this. and I was like Yes That's amazing Good food That's a Gandalfini ending Right? It was in Rome

Right? Was it Rome? Yeah, Italy A huge meal I've kind of struck up a friendship With his son Oh yeah Not only a lovely guy

But a very watchable actor Go figure Yeah, God I love when I say that And then you're like Oh yeah, it's dead Yeah It's like people on our show

on the show running point are like, Chad Hanks is a great actor. I'm like, guys, fucking Tom Hanks' son. Yeah, even if he got a tenth of what that guy had, he'd be great. Does he seem Nicholson's get out there now in movies? I'm like, fucking fantastic. Yeah.

Like, that's what I want. He's kind of a good actor like his dad and he looks cool. You had the opposite where you are the actor and everyone's like, who's this guy? Oh, it's Aik's dad. Oh, yes. It was kind of went the other way. Yeah, yeah, no, he is definitely...

Your dad had killed it. Yeah, he was... Wanted to be an actor when he was young. And then he... Just after a couple years, it was like, ah, it's taken too long, and he really wanted to, like, get married or start having a family and stuff.

So he went to law school. And then he gave him a lawyer for decades. It was a litigator for, like, 30, 35 years in Chicago. And... But he loved acting still, and he... You know, at our school... when they would do like the little play around Purim. He and my friend's mom would come out

and write all the skits. That's so great. They did, to the tune of putting on the ritz, going to the schvitz. We have a clip. Can we play the clip? Putting on the schvitz. And then when I started doing improv,

and when my brother started doing improv, he would come to every show. And there was a couple times where we brought him up on stage and did shows with him. And so he kind of just always still had that little fire in him. And then a couple years ago, a friend of a friend is like, we're doing a fake show about a jury with a judge.

And would your dad want to put himself on tape? And I was like, this sounds very low stakes. Yeah. Sure, yeah, whatever. And so my brother and I put him on tape. And he did a little thing that he had written. and John and I were like... He wrote it himself for the audition.

Yeah, because it was just... I can't remember what it was, but it was just like... I think it was like improvised. It was very like improvised. Yeah. He just had a little spiel that he had written. My brother and I remember distinctly looking at you. I'd be like, gave it a nice read.

And so we sent it in and then like the next day, a friend of mine, a guy named Dave Bernard, who's like a real producer. Producers like White Lotus and stuff. Texted me and it's like, I'm producing the show, and I'm going to cast your dad on the show because he's great. Wow. His tape is so great.

So I still thought he was kind of like. And did you know it from the tape? Were you like, I still didn't even know what the show was. And I just thought he was good. Who knows? Who knows? But he was good enough for you to be. He was good enough for my, and they got sent up to this producer.

Producers. Like, I know Ike and John. He's worked with my brother. He produced Super Store. Anyways. So they cast him. And he comes to L.A. He was living in Ohio.

and Chicago. Oh, I thought he was out here. No, no, he was not a local hire. So which meant he was standing with me for a little while. Which was, it was great because he was getting to do the thing. Yeah. But at the same time, it was just like, you know, I've been working all day. And then he comes home and he's just like so jazzed.

He's like, you know who the real heroes are, the second ADs? And you're like, I know, I know. I mean, they're the ones that see. everything. But anyway, so he shoots it, goes back, and then the show comes out, and it's jury duty, and it's a huge hit. And we talk about shows that kind of change the little breakthrough. You know, all of a sudden they put it on freebie, and a lot of people watched it.

And so... It was really good. Really good. And he really, I thought, just killed it. And, yeah, it was... So now he is an actor in L.A. He is L.A. Tech Avail. In your guest house waiting for offers.

He's waiting for offers. But no, he's, he's, he's been in a few things since then. Wow. He's really, he's doing it and, and love in life. At what point do you start getting feedback where it's starting to get to you guys and to him that he's a really big part of why this is good? Like, people really loved him. Oh, I mean.

probably like halfway through you I was realizing the part is bigger than I kind of imagine they kept featuring him yeah and but when they did the finale when he kind of is the one that reveals to Ronald that's where I was like if that moment doesn't work the show doesn't work

people would get angry yeah and I thought the way he did it was like managed to walk that perfect line of the jokes on you, but we love you. Yeah. And so it was such a bad, blah. I know so many people were like, I was crying during that moment.

I was, what the hell? So yeah, I just, we were just really blown away by how great he did on that, and I think he needs to be a judge more often. What was his diva behavior once it started to hit? Like, what was he doing around the house that was, did he bring in a couple of assistants? Like, what was,

Was he making you do the cooking? What was happening? The, the, the, the, the, I don't know what we're calling them these sex workers, I guess. Bringing them to Shabbat dinner. And, you know, that was a bit, that was, that was ridiculous. No, no. Just telling you to deal with it. No, he, it's adorable.

It's like, like, like when they were, it was, they were doing like award season and he called and goes, okay, so I'm going to a gifting suite. What is, how does that work? Like, here's how it works. Don't be yourner. Take like one or two things. Take a one, take a windbreaker and then take a thing that is like a toaster, but it also has Wi-Fi. So you can play music on it.

You know, and then that's it. But no, it's, we're very, my brother and I are just absolutely delighted by it. So cool. It's great too. And we put him in Running Point as the family attorney. Seth Rogen put him in the studio. he's like the projectionist who was like, I'm filled his shit.

So Ben Affleck put him in the accountant too. Wow. So yeah, no, he's he's, yeah, he's L.A. TechA. Vale. We'll do your project, but only under any circumstances. Now, what does that say to you as someone who acts and someone who casts people and things and that you have someone that hasn't been studying. He did a couple of things at school

and shows up and kills it. What does that tell you about acting? It tells you that acting is much easier than practicing law. Because if all of a sudden I was like, I'm taking the California bar. Do you know what I would get on the California bar? I would get whatever the lowest score is, add for.

Right. Like, I would be like, I wouldn't be able to metabolize the questions. Yeah. So I did, but I don't. I also do, I do think it shows you that there is, you can work hard in this business and, and learn things and move up. And there are plenty of people that have achieved greatness that are bad.

Right. Yeah. The CAM Act. But, you know, there is something to be said where it's like, you got a little spark, you got the thing. It really think, I think it comes down to, are you afraid to not look kind of dumb, right? Like, either you have that or you're just, like, insanely hot. That's every actor.

You know what I mean? Are you completely afraid to like be stripped naked and have like a scene where like people are making fun of your body? Yeah. Or are you just like the hottest person in your town? Right. And so I think he lays lies more in the former. Although being hot. Yeah.

No, being stripped nude and may mocked, which we've never done and we wouldn't do. But metaphorically. But but yeah. So I think he has more of that, which even while he. having very little experience can walk into a film set and or a TV show set and just be completely at ease and nail his lines and then go home and tell my mom about it until she puts her hand on the stove. I wonder if there's something like genetically that like he, I mean, he wanted to be an actor

and was poking around doing little things. Yes. Like I wonder if there's like a genetic thing that he passed on to you guys and you guys had the ability to go take it and run with it and go do it and not have to go to go law school. Maybe. Maybe his father had it and then gave it up when he was in a foxhole watching his friends get blown apart by German artillery.

It was like, I'm not going to do that shit. His father might have had it, but the Cossacks beat it out of him. It needed so he got to the cushy area of Chicago. A little safety. It does have to be a little genetic. It does. Like, if you're good at something, then you do that and it's in you and that love. It also has to do with a lot of, like, because he wanted to be an actor, he loved movies.

We were a TV house. Yeah. Like, they, he would be like, did you finish your homework? And I would lie and be like, yeah, I'd be like, okay, you can watch Hill Street Blues with me. You know what I mean? Like, so, like, they really also loved, like, they took me to, like, like, foreign films. Like, they took me to theater, like, really, every weekend they would let me watch. SNL. So they were really

like great with that. I really do think that's an important thing. When you talk about like our business yeah like it aggravates the fuck out of me when we have friends in our business who are like yeah my kid all he likes is Mr. Beast and I'm like that's your fucking it is your fault like you got to make them watch your shit and you have to from a young age indoctrinate them into watching things that like people spent time on

that tell really great story. Yeah. As opposed to we're going to bury 100 people underground alive. Whoever can chew their way out of their dying friends will get a hundred thousand dollar healthcare token. Not a bad story.

It's actually pretty good. It's actually pretty good. Actually, we finish this up. I'm doing that today. Wish me luck. But no, I really do think it is important to like show you. Like I watched things that my parents love. They loved the godfather. So they let me watch the godfather. They loved

Woody Allen movies. So I would watch Woody Allen movies. So like they do imbue you with like a sense of of taste. You know what I mean? You know? So it's I don't know. That's one way we can kind of I'm uh I I blew it with one of them. There's a big desperate housewives,

real housewives fan in my house that really broke me. I was like I would try and show her things all the things you listed and just just nothing, like black out, just cry, look on her phone. And then Housewives of Atlanta came on. I will venture to say, Housewives of Atlanta, and every sitcom you love and every drum you live are all in the same bucket. They are things on a network, whether it's a reality thing,

whether it's like, that to me is like, I'm fine with that. You're okay with that? Where I lose it is like where it's like, I'm just, yeah, I'm just going to watch like a racist kid stream video games. You know what I mean? Like that's where I'm like, that is bullshit. Right. So as long as there was an editor involved and storytelling. Give me some kind of an editor.

Right. Right. Give me like, yeah. Like it's also, it's on TV. Even if it's not on TV, it's on TV. It's part of the ecosystem that we are a part of. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And so that one, I just, just to me, when it's just only online content, I'm just like, that's where I'm just kind of like, I understand it's important. There are streamers that I love, that I love to watch. But I just, I just, I don't want to build my own coffin. Yeah. Yeah. When you go on YouTube, what is the, what pops up on your, on the page before you start searching? What do I got?

All right. I got, I mean, I have definitely like just. Clips from movies. Yeah. Like whatever. Like I was just watching a bunch of clips of, um, uh,

hell or high water. Great movie. Uh, Taylor Sheridan. Uh, Chris Pine and, uh, Ben Foster. Jeff Bridges,

where he's like the, he's the sheriff and they're rob in the banks. Um, that's a good Jeff Bridges. Thank you. Another bite of this cook here. Um, that was almost Sam Elliott.

It was good. I love what's this bakery called. Um, were you talking about large bread? What I can't even get my voice that fucking love. Um, so there's, there's clips from movies. Bread pudding in my day was not square.

I could do that for a long time. Um, I have definitely a lot of food videos. A lot of food. A lot of food videos. Oh, that's cool. Cooking is probably the mic, my side.

Oh, you do? What do you cook? suck. Pretty much everything. My specialty right now is chicken cutlets. Ooh. Yeah, I made them last night for my daughter's birthday. I will say they're the best I've ever had. Breaded? Breaded. I mean, I do a proprietary bread crem mixture where I take just like olive oil crackers. Sometimes I'll have a little panko in there too, but then you put in like garlic powder, onion powder, Sicilian oregano. There's a great guy on Instagram named Christian Petroni who

just shout out to him because he's he had a great video that sent me on my chicken cutlet journey um and yeah I just pound them pound them really thin um you fry them an extra virgin olive oil

in like a shallowish pan not like a bit you're not like really deep frying it's more like a deep saute and yeah they're just the greatest things I make a lot of them and then the next night I chicken parm and it's seriously they're like perfect like I put them up against any like really like deli in Jersey you know any Italian plays like it's just I just I just

I do it every week oh that's great and I've got it down to a science every way at least three times a month I'm making cutlets because it's also great for the kids to for their lunch and stuff how many making what in in the batch last night it was ridiculous that took me forever I love this usually there's probably like four breasts that you split and pound. So that alone is like 11 or 12 cutlets. Right. The last time I made a double portion.

So I had like, wait, four breasts goes into? Four breasts, you're splitting them. Okay. And then when you pound them and you butterfly, then pieces kind of fall off. And then you have the tenders, which are like little nuggets, you know? Yeah. So, um, so, um, so yeah, they're so good. I will, I will, I would love to have you on Ike's cutlets.

Yeah. It's my podcast. where I talk to guests that I'm interested in while I, but I'm pan-friing the entire time, so I can't hear what you're saying. That's okay. And I'm going to be chewing the whole time, so we don't even have to,

we don't even have to, we don't even need microphones. We don't even have to talk. You can just be on your phone the whole time. I'll be just like, God damn it, you more fucking olive oil. But yeah, so I do, I do love cooking. So there's a lot of Instagram or Instagram and YouTube food content. No, that's great.

Yes. And then I also. Do you like wine? I do like wine. I'm a little bit more of a cocktail guy, but I do love, my wife knows more about it than me, and she's always going to a great little store and bringing home wine. What's your cocktail? I do love Manhattan.

That's like probably my number one go-to. I love a Negroni. There's something called a Vukare. You ever had a Voo-Carray? That's really good. It's like a Manhattan Plus, so it's like equal parts bourbon. or rye, cognac, sweet vermouth, like a spoon of like a Benedictine, some bitters on like a big cube, and it's really strong.

Wow, yeah. It's got like 11 alcohols in it. Yeah, that's a lot. But it's really nice. So I love. What's it called again? A Vucare. It's like a New Orleans drink.

No Orleans. A vocari. But I just read every time I read an article about alcohol, it's like they're like, you're like, yeah, two drinks will kill you. So I'm like, goddammit. I know they're really coming after alcohol these days. Remember in the 80s when the doctors were like, you should have two martinis a day?

Yeah, that's good for you. Now they're just, even a couple years ago, my doctor said to me, he goes, as long as you keep it clear. Tequila, vodka, gin. I was like, okay. And now they're like nothing. Nothing.

Nothing. Not even fucking wine. I know. What's the point of all this shit? I don't understand it. But I always like, well, Jesus was to drink wine. Literally Jesus drank wine. Yeah, I think we can drink wine.

It's okay. It's okay. As long as you just don't do it too much, I guess. But they're really coming after it. Like, it's that one guy keeps saying it's going to be, we're going to look at alcohol the way we look at cigarettes now. It can't be true. It can't be true.

Cigarettes are so much worse for you. Yeah. It's instant cancer. God damn it. Anyways, I'm still going to have like a drink or two in the weekend or a couple glasses of wine. I don't care. Yeah, come on now.

Come on. It's ridiculous. Yeah. I have more of this cookie, too, if you don't mind. Yeah. This is so good. Well, sugar's bad for you. That's what they're going to say next.

Oh, yeah, all chocolate and flour and butter, better. I love that you cook a lot. Who was the cook? Where did you? Mom? Mom was the cook. Okay. And she was a really good cook.

Yeah. I love going to restaurants. Mm-hmm. We were not rich. But every once in a while, we go to like a, like a fancy restaurant, but there's just like a good French restaurant, you know? Oh, yeah. And I loved, I loved that.

I still to this day, like, going to, like, a restaurant and having, like, a drink. It's like my favorite thing to do. Yeah. But when I went to when I moved out and I was doing like the improv scene in Chicago, actually then I didn't cook. I was eating just fast food. But when I moved to Amsterdam in 1999, I did cook there because the food then in Amsterdam was very shitty. It was just like, it was either

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and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash Papa. We do a thing on this program called an uncomfortable moment as if the rest hasn't been... There's just been one long uncomfortable moment. I know.

I am very deeply uncomfortable. In fact, I can't sign off on this, guys. Well, people have a lot of... Oh, yeah, you know, we never have had anyone sign off. Well, you're still not going to, because this is not going to work for me. Well, sorry to do this, but the cameras are on. What?

I thought this was a test run. Look, you've had this great career, and you do lots of amazing things, and you've met amazing people, and you're, you know, I don't think that you would think that somebody who had an idea for you, as a friend, you would entertain it. Yes. Right? Because you're just like, that's how we all work. Friends put each other in things and do certain things.

100%. When I said I had a couple of meetings last week and went into these buildings. Yes. I just want to be honest with you. And if this is uncomfortable, it's uncomfortable. But this is what I was pitching. This is you and me in a new comedy.

I was going to ask you if you'd be cool with me pitching. you and me in a buddy comedy, but... Yes. First of all... But, you know, you're in these meetings and you just got to pitch something. So you did... Just so I know all the deets.

Did you already pitch it? Yeah. You got pitched me with it? Yeah. Okay. And I said you were... Is this the... Is this the rush hour poster

with our faces on it? Possibly? I mean... I'm Chris Tucker right now, it looks like. And you look... Or I'm Jackie Chan, it looks like. No. You know, everything...

You know, everything feeds off everything. Who, the year's funniest action comedy, that's in quotes. Who said that? Rachel. Is it really the funniest? True, yeah. All right, listen. This is a little awkward.

Okay. Because normally I really do go through UTA and my manager. Oh, that's great. I'm with UTA too. Oh, that, well, that is actually good. So this is awkward. Why? I'm in.

Oh. I am in. but the next time I need to be like we need to go through the proper channels but I will say the only reason I'm in is because this poster has blown me away so much I'm like I'm imagining the movie

like at one point like you should like turn to me and just be like do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth so I am in but if this is successful with the sequel we have to like go through because I'm on the spot now I don't appreciate being on the spot no I totally get it but I thought I mean I knew you'd be cool with it, you know, and I just felt like I wouldn't do that.

It's a big risk. With anybody? Yeah, no. But I'll tell you this, though. Who wouldn't you do this with? We haven't gotten a no. I haven't gotten a no yet. You've done this with other people?

See, what, you have a whole slate? No, no, I mean, with my meetings when I, when I pitched it. All the, all the people like it. Nobody is set flat up. I got to tell you, that actually is pretty nice to hear. That's the way someone's like, hey, we've been pitching a bad thing for you, and you're like, God, you're like, God, damn,

they like, they like it. Oh, really? Oh, no, I think that's great. And then,

yeah. That was not uncomfortable. Don't you hear when you have things when you never get a no, but you never get a yes? It just, you really just becomes,

well, I guess it's been six months. We'll never talk again? Yeah. They say bad news travels slow. In L.A., bad news doesn't travel. No.

They just will be like, the executives are like, maybe they'll die. Yeah. And we'll never have to call them and say formally, like, we're moving on. Well, they have to say no. They have to say no so often. They probably just got tired of it.

And they're like, we're just not going to go through that anymore. You have nothing to get. And I literally have made the call once. One time my partner was probably four or five years ago. Yeah. But we had hired to write something and we turned the final draft in. And we just were not hearing back. Yeah.

And finally, like, I call my manager, I was like, listen, I need to know what's going on. This is insane. It is offensive, quite frankly. Like, I want an answer from them, and I want it by the end of the week. And he texted me like seven minutes later and said, they're passing. And I was like, should have said anything? Because then you can for years be like, oh, yeah, something in development at Canon Studios. Yeah, but you can get.

get impatient. You're like, I want to know. But if it was good news, they would have told you. They would have told you. Because the good news, they can't wait. They're so excited. They're so happy.

It's good news. 20 consecutive phone calls are shit news. They got something great to tell you. Yeah. They tell you right away. There's nothing better when you get the phone call and it's, you get a call from your agent and then the other agent and your manager. Oh, yeah.

They all want to be on the call. And they're making small talk. Hold on. We're holding for jewels. And you're like, okay. I'm like, oh, so what else? Great was Conan at the Oscars. You're like, great, what's going on?

Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, I love them. They're good. You make cutlets? I make cutlets. I make, oh, the thing I make best is potatoes, roasted potatoes. Roasted potatoes.

The best roasted potatoes you've ever had. How, is it the little bag with the little ones? No, it's russet potatoes. Okay. You ever heard of Heston Blumenthal? I don't know him. He's like a really great British chef. Probably like after Gordon Ramsey, he might be like one of the more like famous ones,

but he's really more famous in the UK and Europe. And I saw a video he made years ago where he, yeah, he just made the best looking roast of potatoes. And I've taken that kind of recipe and molded to my own. but it's basically you take russets, peel them, cut them into, like, chunks. Try to not make them too small, because they're going to get smaller anyways, you know? And then you boil them, and you boil them for, like, a long time. You got to, like, really, like, the last couple minutes, make sure they're not falling apart, but they're looking like they're about to fall apart.

I'm sorry, did you say they're peeled? They're peeled. Right. Then you take them out of the water, and you put them on, like, a rack, like a cooling rack, and you let them steam. Like you let all this much steam as possible get out of them Okay You moisturers your enemy when you want these right

Because you want like a really good Crunchy potato that is like kind of fluffy inside right Okay So while they're cooling they've cooled for whatever A half hour or an hour You take like a roasting tray And you get your oven really hot And you put

Whatever you're gonna cook it, I use olive oil You put it in the oven so it heats in the oven And then after like five minutes you take it out, you dump the potatoes in, they're going to... Just put the olive oil on the baking pan alone? You're using a lot of olive oil. Yeah, because it's like, it's like a...

You want them hot before they hit. You want them hot before they hit. And it's also like if... It's not like a low fat recipe. But the thing is, it is olive oil. Right. You can use whatever. Lard?

Yeah, lard or like around Christmas. I'll put in some like beef tallow. So it just kind of has like a meaty taste, you know, with like a meaty roast. Ever used whale blubber? I love whale blubbera. I've run out, though, so I have to stop it. My whale guy.

But he's on Ventura, so it's actually in the whale district. But olive oil, and then you put him in there, and then every, like, 20 minutes, turn them for, like, 75 minutes, a long time. Wow. At a hot oven. But you keep turning, the last 10 minutes, throwing in, like, a bunch of garlic or rosemary or stuff,

not beforehand because it'll burn. Uh-huh. But they will come out and they will be like, like, when you bite in, it sounds like biting into, like, glass. Like, it's just like crunchy, false. They are, they are like my favorite thing. Wow. I think I will lay in bed and think about them.

Yeah. When I'm running a treadmill, I'm just like, oh, I'm going to have so many potatoes. They sound amazing. They're really good. They're really good. So is it, is the olive oil kind of, is it kind of frying in the? It's, it's like when they go in there, sizzling. Yeah, so it is, but it's, you can fry an olive oil.

It's a myth that you can't. As long as you keep the temperature not too high, like I think probably like 375, maybe 400, a little more. But, but yeah, it's, it's. So it's not a splatterfest, though? No, it's not a splatterfest. You just got to, when you put in that initial thing, don't just dump them in. I'd kind of take a, like, a big slotted spoon and kind of like ease them in a little bit.

But they're so good. I do them with like, like, I love, like, a good British. roast dinner, you know, it's a big piece of meat, veggies, and those potatoes and gravy. That's like one of my dream meals. Oh, that sounds so good.

I want to try these potatoes. I will, I'm doing a Splinter podcast, some Ike's cutlets called Ike's Taters. It's kind of like, remember the Walking Dead and the Talking Dead? Yeah, yeah, yeah. On Ike's taters, we break down

my chicken guest. Right. By making potatoes. That sounds perfect. Yeah, it's, we'll do them on different days. So you're not. Okay. dying.

So you don't have a heart attack? Oh, those sound amazing. It's so good. Cooking is like, A, I always tell people like, it's not that hard. It's not. It really isn't. You have to just have a little bit of patience, but every time you do it, it gets faster and faster. Yeah.

It is, if you can learn how to cook, it's delicious. Yeah. It's so much cheaper than a restaurant. I know. So much healthier than a restaurant. And again, I love going to restaurants. constantly my favorite. But I think like a lot of times, like, like when I was younger,

I'd just be like, I'll just get Chipotle. And it's like, oh, man, you can make a burrito bowl that is like so much better for like half the money. You can make like five of them. It's crazy too, like being on the road and being like, no, this trip I'm eating healthy. And you look at the list of like the stuff you ate and it's healthy stuff. It's like salmon and salad. But you're gaining weight because there's so much.

There's portions are big. And they slap that butter on there. Yeah. Like on the road, I don't know how you guys do it on the road. Like that would be like a real struggle for me. It's hard. But it is to be able to go home and like, you know, spend like a half hour, an hour, like chopping and sweating stuff. It's like really nice.

But that's the thing. Like you say it's easy and it is. Anyone can learn it. But over the years of doing it, you just learn all these, just how to cut. Little tricks. How to chop. Yeah. How to do that.

I made a lemon pasta last night. for fortune and I'm really good at lemon pasta. I made lemon pasta last night. You did? Yes. That's so weird. It is really weird. I have so many lemon.

I have a lemon tree, so many lemons. And I made. Meyer's lemons? Yeah, so I made lemon pasta last night. It's the best. That is so weird. You know what I put in mine, because I wanted to be creamy, but I don't want to put in a lot of cream.

Big giant spoonful, like thick Greek yogurt. Really? Yeah. And it's thinned out a little bit with like the lemon juice. But it makes it like really good. I put a lot of Parmesan and olive oil and butter. But it is. Yeah, the butter.

I'm making it tonight for leftovers. Oh, man. So good. I make it, I made, there is a butter version and a cream version. Yes. And I do. And I did cream last night because Fortune really wanted it. And I wanted to make her happy.

Just hanging out? Yeah. her wife is out of town and she had a show. It was perfect because she had a show to go do in Pasadena or something. And she's like, can I come at four for lemon pasta? I have to leave by 5.30. I was like, perfect. Nothing better than an early Sunday dinner.

And then they're gone. And then she goes, does her thing and I just pat around the house and do all this stuff. Oh, so good. That's really good. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the early dinner. Me too. And during the week, because like on the weekends, I'm with my family. Yeah.

But during the week, when I'm having a lot of my family. like a friend's dinner, even a business dinner. I'm shameless. I'm like, I can get us a 545 at Ago. I know. You know? It's good. I don't think Aago's around anymore.

But like a 545, a 6 p.m. dinner. Actually, let's go backwards. Let's make it 535 o'clock. Four. Let's Florida this bitch. But there is that thing and I was thinking about it last night when I was making it, you know, because I really wanted it to come off well because she would request it. So, you know, she loves that dish so you don't want to blow it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, but there's all of the experience of knowing, like, how this cream's going to evaporate and how to get it to that point where you're, like, all those little things about cooking that just, you can't, you get, you just have to learn it through experience. Yeah, it's just, by reps, I mean UTA. They represent me. Those guys are really good. They're all in the room when I cook visiting.

Oh, really? They come to your place. Giving me notes. Oh, that's weird. Because I'm in the UTA and they always say, uh, yeah. They don't come to places. Oh. Did I say they?

No, I'm with CIA. It's okay. No, it's fine. I'm with the UGA. I'm with the United Jewish Appeal. I'm bringing this sourdough loaf. That's going to your house. With me, just so you know.

Yeah, that's for you. I bought that for you. That's really nice. Yeah. And you can take that thing that's too crunchy also. That one I'm not going to take because it is, today is my actual daughter's birthday, and we are doing a birthday cake.

Oh, I already had a... So you could eat that on the car on the way. Oh, that actually sounds good. No, I can't. I can't. Sugar, like, it does, like, mess me up. So I have to be smart about it and choose wisely. O-Zempic or no-O-Zempic?

No-Zempic. No-Zempic. For me? Yeah. For me, no Zempic. For me? No Zempic. Okay.

I am very pro-Zempic. Okay. Because it, I don't know, it seems like it's helping so many people. I don't care people. Like, you're getting skinny the unfair way. It's like, shut up, bitch. But, yeah, I think it's like, and then you read more about it. You're like, oh, it can stop alcoholism.

It can fight inhibitors that have the gambling and stuff. Like, it does seem that, like, the technology around the actual drug is a bit of a wonder drug. But yeah, but it is like a real. beautiful thing. But not for me. I just walk on a treadmill for like 90 minutes with a weight vest on. That's good.

I can't die. With a potato in front of you. I was reading this morning about people that are micro-dosing O-Zempic. Okay, so you're just a little not hungry? Like a half of a dose and it's more for inflammation. It takes down inflammation and helps with your heart

and all of this other stuff. It's amazing. Yeah. It's incredible. Yeah. It's wild. Yeah, smoking drugs. Like it just is like a thing that can really, I think, help people.

So I'm, and I'm not just saying that because I'm the board of Novartis. What they do is totally independent. You've always been good about separating those two parts of your life. And I know the shareholders are listening. And so I want to give a shout out to Bjorn, Fjongan and some other Danish names, Finnish names. Yeah, Finnish names. Tell me about the Netflix show. The Netflix show is a show called Running Point.

It is a bit of a pun because it's about a woman who becomes boss in his running point, but it's a basketball team. And it's starring someone named Kate Hudson. Maybe you've freaking heard of her. Kate Hudson, Kate Hudson, yes. Yes. This is a show that I wrote with my writing partner, Dave Stassen. You wrote it. I wrote it.

I'm not acting in this. I wrote it. and I wrote it with Dave. Is this the one where the guy? I'm going to do Jiminy Glick. Is this the one with a guy? You never really did it. Was he in the bed and he was all on drugs?

Did he all the drugs? Is it that? Then he goes Lou. Was he on drugs? I didn't like you. I didn't like you very much. Oh man. Now I'm going to have to go home and watch

from Jiminy Glick while I'm going to bed in the night. But we were approached by our wonderful friend, Mindy Kaling. Yes. We used to do the Mindy Project with. and she pitched this. She, like, gave us, like, this just a layup. Again, no pun intended.

But she just gave us this beautiful thing wrapped in a bow and was like, hey, this is, I think we could do a show that is like a lightly fictionalized version of Jeannie Buses' life, the owner of the LA Lakers. And Dave and I are huge basketball fans. Like, we're obsessed with Mindy.

Yeah. Like, writing with her is, like, some of our favorite, probably our favorite thing to do. Yeah. And it had been a minute since we worked with her. So we were so excited. Oh, that's great.

We broke it, and then we wrote them with some great folks. And then, yeah, we, as we were kind of writing it, we had our dream list of, like, who can play this part. And Kate Hudson's the top of that list. Yeah. It was just like a fate of compla. It's like, it's Kate Hudson. Right. Like, you know, if she's not in.

It's when you just pick the perfect thing. Yeah, it just, it's not going to happen. And God bless her agents read it and said, we really want her to read this. and then she read it. And Kate Hudson is very funny. It is a very good sense of humor. And loves kind of like dumb shit. You know what I mean?

She like likes that. Yeah, she's in on the joke. Yeah, she's in on the joke. And so she really like connected with it and we spent, you know, we talked to her and she's like, I'm in. And then it became very real. Yeah. Because I'm a believer of like a cheesy show or movie could go away at any second. You never know why.

once Kate Hudson's in it, it will not go away. Because people are like, I love her. Yeah. I want to see her. Yeah, you're right. We surrounded her with a really, just an amazing group. You know, it's a family company, family business. And so she has these brothers who are kind of, you know, her, we're her boss and now she's superior to them.

And Justin Thoreau, Drew Tarver, Scott McArthur, just. killed it. Brenda Song, Max Greenfield, J.L. It's like a ridiculous cast. And we shout out. It sounds like when you describe it

it's something that you would, like if you just heard about this project, it sounds like something you would be in. Yeah, I would, well, luckily we just got picked up for season two. So that could be a very,

very fun edition. Yeah, yeah. But then if I'm bad and then my partner has to fire me, he's like, listen, man, you're a bad actor. That would be pretty, if Mindy was like,

hey, you're a shitty actor, what happened? Yeah, that would be very embarrassing. He's really off your game. But it premiered on Netflix, and it's done really great. Like, I've never been a part of something where more people have reached out and been like, Hey, I watched, not just I watched a show, I watched all of them. Oh, man.

And like, some people were like, text me like, hey, I watched it all on a Saturday. Wow. And I was just, like, so blown away by that because I've had that film before. Oh, I want to see more. So, it response has been amazing. We're so excited to come back and do season two. And it's just, it's a nice. group of folks over there. So when you get picked up pretty early for the next season,

which they don't make you sweat it and go through all of that. Yeah. What a dream. I would think that the only thing that makes it difficult when that happens is knowing that, I mean, not that there won't be time for our project, but how do you, how are you going to balance Tom and I think while you have this thing going. I have a carve-out. Okay. I was planning on doing a movie with Quintan Ternino. Uh-huh.

I put me in his new movie. It is a, um, it's kind of like a fictionalized version of the, um, night stalker killings. Mm-hmm. And I was-starring Nazis. Starring Nazis. And I was going to play, uh, the main guy. So I have, I have that time carve. out already.

Oh. But after seeing that poster, I think I'm going to, in the car ride home, I'm going to have to call QT and tell him that find yourself another DA because I'm out. And again, I apologize for not like giving you the warning and putting you in this position where you have to fire him. But, you know, things happen for a reason. You're lucky the poster is that great. That's what I'll say.

because it blew my ass away. Yeah, and you saw what Rachel said about it. She said it's, what did you say? It's the funniest buddy cop movie you'll see this year? Yeah. I mean, how can you argue with that? I know. There's so many that they're making that.

You know what? I'm going to text you the poster that you can share with Quentin and that he'll get it. He'll get it. You know, man, I was fucking furious, but now what? I see it. I see it. I want to direct it. Before you go.

Yes. both of these recipes have really piqued my interest. Okay. The way you do your cutlets. Yep. And the potatoes. Yes. Can you throw in one more recipe?

Yes. From the I cookbook? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, for sure. Let me think of something that I love to make. Does your wife cook too, or is it? She makes. She's a very, very, very good baker.

Got it. Um, okay, I make, I love Mexican food. Mm-hmm. I love it. I was another one of the many reasons I love living in L.A. is like the greatest. The best. It's so good.

And whenever I go to like a sit-down Mexican restaurant, I will all, I judge a sit-down Mexican restaurant by their chili Colorado, which is what we used to call back in the day, chili con-carn, which is brazed beef in like a red chili sauce. and I love it. It's my favorite thing. So I was like, I just, I want to make this. Yeah. So there's a great guy I follow on Instagram

named Arnie Tex, who is just, I think he's in Austin or Texas somewhere, and he's just a great Mexican, American chef who just has great shit. And I started toying with it, and it probably is the best thing I make now, just because the cutlets are great, but at the end of the day, they are chicken cutlets.

Right. The roasted potatoes are roasts potatoes. This is like, a sauce that has like a crazy depth of flavor. It's got layers. And I do the whole thing, man. I like, I like, I'll make like, you know, I'll get a bunch of different dried chilies. I get, you know, Guadaloh and New Mexico, California.

And you, you know, you boil them with onions and stock and you make that like great chili puree sauce, you know. Yeah. And you got to strain that. That's a very important thing. Yeah. And then you just get like ground, like good. quality ground chuck like like student eat you know yeah you cube it up and you sear that all off you know some nice color on it and then you just put it in a pot or you can even put it in a slow cooker

and a little bit of onions a little bit of garlic um that chili sauce a bunch of beef stock some bay leaves some mexican oregano all the fixums geez and just let it cook for hours and then you just have like It's like Mexican beef bourguineau. So it's got like spice to it. So good. And I make that with like homemade pinto beans and like homemade Mexican rice. And it's like it's the great. It is like sounds amazing.

On a Sunday like if I'm people that come over to watch like a football game. Like I'll make that the day before. Oh, nice. It's really. It's like I gave it to a friend of mine. I can't remember was that or my Pazola. I gave it to my friend Kayla and she brought it home and had some with her mom. And she said the next day.

My mom said, I don't believe a white man made this. And it was one of the most proud moments in my life. Oh, that is amazing. Oh, that's so good. It's good stuff. We're lucky. I wrote down a phrase because I had it during my radio show and I was like, oh, this is a funny phrase that I could use in a joke at some point. And I haven't found a place for it.

I might, but I think you could use it for your recipe. beef squeezins. Beef squeezins. Beef squeezins. Normally they call it the frond, but I like beef squeezesons a lot more. Oh, yeah, and the best part here is the beef squeezins. It's good, right?

It's really good. Beef squeezes. And it can mean so many things. Yeah. This was great. Thank you for coming by. This was really great. This was definitely the most fun I've had today.

Yeah, and what today? Oh, okay. We're going to wrap the bread up for you. and bring it to your family. I don't want to just drive home holding a load. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah. Walking the door, the...

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