Breaking Bread with Tom Papa - Episode 6 - Jo Koy
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sourdough, hey, it's time for breaking bread with Papa.
Hey, don't you know, it's also a show.
Hey!
Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Breaking Bread with Tom Papa.
I hope you're doing well.
I hope everything's going okay in your world.
Today, we break bread with the great Joe Coy.
Great comedian, really talented.
I've known him a long time.
He's always has so much energy, so much drive.
so much fun and it's contagious, and that really harkens to the success that he's had in the recent years.
He's just blowing up, just huge.
He's a new Netflix special called In His Elements, where he brings people to the Philippines
and introduces them to his culture.
Perfect, perfect subject for today for our show, because there's so much tied up in his heritage,
in his family, in his love of food and culture,
and it all comes out in this podcast.
It's so good to spend some time with him
and really get in a little deeper.
And also, he shares his secret recipe for adobe chicken.
A little twist on what is known as the legendary dish in the Philippines.
I hope you enjoy this.
I hope you learn a little about the Philippines.
Joe Coy certainly wants you too.
He feels like you don't know enough.
And I have to admit, I don't think you do.
I know I didn't.
All right, enjoy.
Joe Coy.
So I give you bread and you come to the podcast.
Yes.
That's how it works.
I think it's a pretty trade.
Did you enjoy it?
Oh, 100%.
So we're a bread family.
You know, we go to cheesecake factory, and it's like, don't even order the entree.
Just keep giving us that basket of bread.
I cannot stop eating that bread.
And we're addicted to bread.
I'm not going to lie.
When I saw you give that loaf to Jamie, Kailer, my mouth was watering because it just looked so delicious.
It looked like what bread is supposed to look like.
It looked like he was friends with a baker, not even a fellow comic.
He's friends with a baker, and I want that loaf of red.
I hit Jamie up so fast, and I said, I need that, ASAP.
Literally, before I even got home after dropping it off at Jamie's, I got a message,
Joe Koi wants the bread.
I'm sending me your information.
I was like, I got, I don't have any more loaves.
I've got to go.
So I went home.
I started mixing it up by the time.
you contacted me.
And I got to say, you're hitting it at the right time, though, because during quarantine,
I've been home and baking a lot.
And this bread, I mean, look, I'm kind of a bread snob to begin with, and I've thought
I was good a year ago.
Yeah.
But it's not to toot my own horn, but this bread is really off the hook at this point.
Yeah.
Angie said something like, it's kind of like a, so funny.
She was like, this is like biblical bread.
That's what she said.
I'm not even joking.
I'm going to get the exact words that she said,
but she was like,
this is like biblical bread.
Like the bread that they serve now,
it's kind of like for the,
for mass consumption.
This is like the bread that Jesus made in a wooden oven.
It's very hearty.
It's got a lot of wheat and whatever in it.
And I'm telling you,
it's very flavorful.
It's the best, Tom.
Well, man, you know,
when you said that you're a bread family,
and I saw Angie when I was dropping it off
and her eyes were kind of lit up.
Yeah. And your son too, I was like, oh, I've got to
come back. This isn't enough bread.
This is, I've got to get more bread.
You know I made a sandwich last night with that bread?
Oh, man, what would you put on it?
Cheese.
Ooh.
Melted or just straight?
Straight cheese.
Just cheddar, right in between it with butter.
I'm not even joking.
And I didn't even grill it.
It was so.
Good. I'm telling you. This makes me so happy. This really makes me so happy. You have to package this, Tom. You have to sell bread. I know, but how do you sell bread? You know, you know what it takes to make just two loaves is a big deal. Yeah, well, we got to figure it out. We got to figure it out. You're a good businessman. Yes. We have to figure this out. We're going to figure it out for sure. Now, here's a question. Now, first of all, I want to say right off the bat, your new special on Netflix is a treat in his element. It is a,
Everybody knows you as a stand-up comic, and everybody knows you as just a personality.
But this is a hybrid.
This is a very cool thing, because I thought it was going to be just straight stand-up.
But you are, it's a little Anthony Bourdain.
It's a little variety show.
It's a little you doing your stand-up.
And you bring the world to the Philippines.
Shot the whole thing in the Philippines.
You wanted to shine a light on your culture.
And it's really, really well done.
Congratulations.
Oh, thank you.
You know, you said everything that I said in the pitch meeting.
That's the crazy thing.
I literally said Anthony, I wanted to feel like Anthony Bourdain with like an entertainment
port, you know, like a little more of the comedy, some singing, some dancing.
But then that when we do go into the location piece, I want to experience like Anthony Bordain did.
I want to eat.
Yeah.
I want it shot cinematically beautifully.
You know what I mean?
And that's what that was all about.
That's what that was all about.
You really pulled it off.
Now, here's a question.
now. Because I am the perfect, the perfect viewer for this from an American perspective.
Because the Philippines is, you know, of course you're aware of certain parts of it and there's certain parts of like the crazy history with like the Marcos and all of that. And that's where it stops.
Yeah. That's pretty much where it ends. I had a, I had a Filipino friend when I was in third grade and we used to hang out and listen to albums in his bedroom.
And that's it.
That's all my Filipino knowledge.
Yeah.
So like, so when you, when you start off the special and you'd say that this is, people don't know the Philippines is made up of like 700 and something islands.
7,000, yeah.
7,000 islands.
Yeah.
7,000?
Yeah.
See, I learned it and already forgot it.
Yeah.
That's, I had no clue.
Yeah.
No clue.
And they speak 180 languages.
You know what I mean?
And some of them are tri-lingual, if I could,
because they'll speak two different dialects in the Philippines
and then also speak fluent English.
Man, oh, man.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
And, you know, my son's grandmother,
she speaks Ilocano,
and the national language is Tagalog.
That's the one that the majority speaks.
And she flips it back and forth, like it's nothing.
She'll go Ilocano and then go over to Tagalog.
but if she's talking to one aunt that speaks Ilocano, she'll speak that.
Boom, she's talking Tagalog to someone else that speaks to Gallag.
And then she's talking English to me all at the same time.
And you're just like, how is this possible?
Yeah.
Is it similar to, you know, you hear a lot of people talk about speaking Spanish that way,
that there's Puerto Rican Spanish, there's Mexican Spanish, there's Spain.
There's like, is it, and they all can't even really understand each other sometimes.
Yeah.
I feel like this is like a completely.
completely different language.
Like sometimes you'll,
you'll pick up certain words.
Yeah.
I mean,
you know,
Spanish will have certain words and similar words.
Filipino,
it all of a sudden becomes this other language.
Like,
it sounds like,
like when she'll speak Ilocano,
it sounds like she's speaking Tagalog on an album
and then playing it backwards.
It's like,
now it's Ilacano.
It's like,
I don't even know how she does it,
but it's pretty amazing.
Man, oh man.
And this is your mom?
This is my mom.
My son's grandma.
Your son's grammar.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I'm sorry.
On the mother's side.
On the mother side.
Right, right, right.
And your mom, too?
My mom speaks Tagalog.
That's it.
Tagalog.
Yeah.
But the English.
Why is she so lazy?
That's a good one.
Why did I ever use that on my mom?
Man.
Oh, that's complicated.
Yeah.
And look, actually, I even hesitate to make the joke because.
your mom is kind of a one of those superhero moms.
Yeah. She really. Where. Yeah. Because I mean, your story,
she brings you over and pretty much raises you by herself. Yeah. Right? Yes. She was
pretty much a single mom. Was your father in the States or is he? No, my dad was in the States.
It was like the minute we landed in Washington, it, that's what the family structure divided.
You know what I mean? My dad moved on and he moved to another.
state and it was pretty much just my mom.
And I always try to explain to people now, especially like, you know, the Filipino
Americans now, it was a completely different time for my mom.
Like if you could just imagine coming to this country in like the mid-70s, there's no
Instagram, there's no Facebook, there's no Twitter.
The way my mom would fight Filipino friends is if she was walking somewhere and heard an accent
that sounded like her.
She'd be like, are you Filipino?
So am I.
Let's be friends.
You know what I mean?
And as I try and make that funny, but that's literally how it was.
Like, yeah.
And that's, there was no Filipino restaurants.
So every time my mom would get like these group of Filipinos together,
they would rent out the nights at Columbus Hall at the church.
And every Sunday after church,
we would have like these Filipino gatherings and everyone would bring dishes of Filipino food.
And of course, the kids would perform.
I would dance.
My sister would sing.
And that was our little community, you know.
And where was this?
That was in Washington.
In Washington.
Yeah. Knights of Columbus.
Yeah.
And why did she pick Washington?
That was where my dad retired.
Oh, okay.
He retired there because his family lived there.
So that's where he retired.
And unfortunately, that's when the split happened.
The division of the family happened.
Right.
That was also the beginning of divorce.
You know, like, you remember?
Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, it was a big deal.
It was a big deal.
And it was all about get a lawyer.
And you'll never get, you know, it was just.
just a rough time for a single mom back then. It was really hard. It's not like it is now. Now it's like,
you know, they got lawyers that fight for, you know, the mom. And back then it was hard, man. I remember,
you know, one of the saddest times is my mom going to a lawyer and she had no idea what it was.
She didn't, she thought you could just go to a lawyer and ask for help and then leave. And then I remember
my mom was just like, I need help. You know, I'm going through a divorce. I don't know what to do.
And then he gave her some advice. And then at the end, he was like, that's 400 bucks. And my mom
was just like looking at me and she didn't have it. And I remember she wrote a check and then we got
in the car and she was just like, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't have any money.
Oh my God. It's the saddest moment because she cried and, you know, it's just like, uh, just.
And how old are you at that point? I was a, man, that was like 12, 13-ish, you know what I mean?
Oh, so you're like very aware of what's happening. Yeah. 13, 14. Yeah. It was it was a hard time,
man. Yeah, it must have been. Now was the Filipino community? Was it,
a large community there?
No, it was, like I said.
So it was just, just a couple friends that you could find
and kind of cobbled it together.
Yeah.
Our Christmas, you know, our, our Christmases would be just some skinny Filipino guy
in a Santa, just a beard barely hanging from his face.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, who wants Gibbs?
Who's been a good boy?
Like, it was the bad.
Oh, man.
That's a true story, man.
Is it really?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Night to Columbus.
That's where I swear we had so many parties there, man.
We had it on BHS tape and, you know, those are lost over the years.
But, man, I wish I could find it.
I wish I could find it just so I could post it.
And you say that you're dancing at that point.
Oh, yeah.
Was this, this is your break dancing?
I used to break dance and I used to, I was the best Michael Jackson impersonator in 1984, 85.
You talk about that in the special.
But literally, you know, that's how I got popular at school because I was,
I moonwalked at a talent show across it.
I remember everyone's just going crazy and fun it up to me.
That's really.
Everyone's like, oh my God, what's your name?
I'm like, Joe, what are you?
What are you, Filipino?
What the hell is that?
No one knew what it was.
Oh, they really?
Oh, no, no one knew what that was, man.
Oh, man.
There were no other Filipino kids in your classes?
No, not really.
It's kind of like me and my sister.
It's so crazy, Tom, like when I try and explain the times, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, now it's like everything's very brown now.
You got, you got Filipinos that are in the limelight now.
You got Bruno Mars.
You got, you know, you got Apple to app.
You got Rob Schneider.
You got, you guys, you got people that you can identify with.
They go, oh, I'm Filipino.
Like, Bruno Mars is part Filipino.
Like, it's just Chad Hugo's.
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is when I was a kid, I didn't have that.
And when I said I was Filipino, there was nothing to associate me with.
You know what I mean?
And like any other, if I had a Korean friend, he said I was
Korean. Immediately people like, I love Korean barbecue. I love blah, blah, blah. Like,
they would say that. I had none of that. So it was always like this identity complex with me.
It's interesting when you say that because like I say in the beginning, I said in the beginning
of the podcast, I knew one Filipino kid. I knew one. Yeah. And it was just like, oh, so yeah. I mean,
I knew he looked kind of different, you know, and it's just like, all right, I don't really understand it.
And the smells of the food when his mom's making the food when we're listening to
the albums, totally different.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It was like, and it's so funny because as a kid, you don't think of it as a kid who's
part of the dominant thing, all the white kids.
Yeah.
You just, you don't, it does not register that you don't, that he didn't feel that he
belonged because we were just friends and he was just part of, you know, everything.
Yeah.
But it's, but it's, what I've learned over the recent, recent years and, you know,
kind of what you're describing, it is pretty isolating.
Yeah, it is.
And it's also like, you know, just struggling as a kid that's got, you know,
I got, I'm half white as well, you know what I mean?
So it's like, I'm struggling with that.
And there's my mom's side where I'm like, I'm so proud of it as well.
You know what I mean?
And people are like, so when people look at me, I got my green eyes and then they're like,
well, you're white, right?
And I'm like, no, no, I'm also, I'm Filipino.
Oh, what's that?
And it's like, I had nothing.
Nothing. You know? And, you know, one thing I would always get jealous of, Tom, is like, I had one of my best friends was Korean. And like, he would get compliments about his food all the time. Like, everyone was like, oh, I love Korean barbecue. Teachers would be like, oh, tell your mom to get some of that kimchi over here. Like, and like, and I would sit there going, hey, I'm Filipino. And I was like, yeah, and no one wants anything to do with that. Like, I had to try to sell my food. No one to try my food. No one ever heard of my food. And it just, it just,
just hurt like my feelings were hurt because it's something I ate it every day. It's like,
no, it's good. Yeah, it literally says, I think it literally says on Wikipedia when you look up
the Philippines, it says that their cuisine is overshadowed by, uh, by Vietnamese and Korean food,
but that Filipino food actually is really good if you know what you're looking for.
It's so good. Because if you think about it, it's a fusion. Like we're the, like there's a lot of people
now today if you go to restaurants like they're they're so done with like traditional restaurants that
people want a new flavor so now they do a lot of fusions there's a lot of fusions now you know there's like
korean barbecue hamburgers like what what did that start happening yeah we're just done with
korean barbecues we threw up between two buns so it's like so now everyone's doing fusions but
like Filipino food has always been a fusion it's everyone that's ever like basically
basically it's going to suck that I say this, but colonized the filin beads.
You know, everyone that came there and worked and, you know,
and, you know, like the Chinese, they were, they were there forever.
And we have a lot of Chinese influence in our food.
You know, we have a lot of noodle dishes, our egg roll.
We call it Lumpia.
And it's like, yeah.
And by the way, everything that whoever left their food in our country, we made it better.
Just want to let you guys know that.
Chinese people have their egg rolls, we made it better.
You break your food, we fix it.
What's the difference between a Chinese egg roll and a Filipino?
O'Rexier and less vegetables.
It's just, it's taste.
I'm telling you right now, I, you know, Jimmy O'Yang, good friend of mine, I challenged them.
I go, I challenge my mom's egg roll to your dad's egg roll, and my mom will win.
My mom will beat every egg roll in the world.
Everyone knows Lumpia is the best egg roll.
It's hilarious.
It's funny because, oh, go ahead.
I'm sorry, Tom.
No, but there's no way he would give it up because his dad made that.
Like, he grew up with that.
He'll be like, yours is cute, but you need an outsider to come and break that tie.
Yeah, exactly.
We need a judge.
Yeah.
His dad actually went online and actually was like, I'm willing to take that challenge.
Like, oh, shit.
Oh, no.
No.
It's a fun to the end.
So when you went, so when you went to the, went to the, went to the,
the Knights of Columbus and your mom cobbled together for other Filipinos and they show up with those dishes.
Yeah.
What are they showing up with?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's funny.
You know, we have a lot of Spanish influence too.
So a lot of our food has Spanish influence.
So it's like it's a hybrid between Asian cuisine and Spanish cuisine and they fused it together.
And we have a lot of dishes from it.
We got a lot of soups where we use Spanish, you know, seasonings and vegetables.
It's really delicious, but they always would bring funcette, which is our noodle dish.
We always had a pancet, which I cannot eat.
I cannot eat anymore.
I'm done.
Why?
What do you mean?
Every fucking weekend was pancet.
And like, I would get so mad because it would make, because it's very cheap, Tom, to make it.
Like a bag of noodles is like eight cents.
And it's like, oh, we can feed 5,000 people.
And they would just bring so much pancette and everyone would eat it.
And like, you know, when you first try it, like, when you try it, you're going to love it.
But like, I can't do it anymore, man.
When someone orders potts in, I'm like, get that shit off this table, man.
I can't.
Is it a light noodle?
Is it like a very light rice noodle, just very like thin and glassy.
And then it's cabbage, carrot, celery.
You know, a lot of vegetables.
It's poor men's food.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
And it's, it's whatever you got in the kitchen, throw it in the pan.
And then, you know, not too much chicken, just enough to let them know there's chicken in there.
Chicken is expect.
Right, exactly.
Hey, if you run out of chicken, just add cabbage.
So, yeah.
But it was a lot of pancette.
My favorite dish is chicken adobe, which is basic, Tom.
And you would love it when I take you out to eat, but it's just, it's basic.
It's garlic, onion, soy sauce, and vinegar.
And it's the most amazing marination you'll ever have on chicken.
It's so good.
It's our national.
dish and I used to get so jealous because, you know, every other ethnicity they have a go-to.
You say you're Japanese. People like, I love sushi. You say you're Chinese. We can't get
enough of Chinese food. Filipino. No one knew. And I'm just like, you come to my house and I give you
Adobe. People will talk about it all day. Like, oh, my God, can you get somewhere that adobe?
So that's why, that's why when I did this special, I had my aunt cook, my aunt, my sister cook
adobe in the special just so I can say it to the world like chicken adobe and I looked at the camera
and I go this is my favorite dish and I just just to say that yeah that to two million three million
people that are watching it now they're going to be like at home going we need to try that yeah where do we
get that yeah well it's a big deal I mean it really is it's such a it's such a huge thing that
when your when your family feeds you I mean what's what's crazy from my perspective
is growing up Italian, the whole world knows Italian food.
Yes.
A hundred percent.
It's what you're known for.
It's everybody knows everything.
It doesn't matter where you come from.
Everybody knows at least the basics of Italian food.
So it's got to be frustrating for you to.
It's actually, it's kind of funny in a way.
As a kid, you're like, hey, I'm Filipino and who, where are they?
And like, you're, you're, you're, you want to yell out exactly even what you are.
Yeah.
And now as an adult, when it's, now you're like, now I'm going to teach you about the food.
This is like a whole process of telling the world of little Joe Coy, like, hey, listen to me.
I do this bit.
There's my last special.
It was called Coming in Hot.
And I do this special about my mom putting my lunch in a cool whip container.
And the basis of that joke is like, it's from the heart because I was always that kid where the other kids had like delicious lunches, you know, just mouth watering turkey.
sandwiches with cheddar and peanut butter and jelly with a Coca-Cola.
And here I am with a cool-it container filled with rice and mongo beans.
And no one wants to fucking trade me.
And it's always me selling it.
If you just try it, it's really good.
It's really delicious.
Do you like salt?
It's really good.
And the kids are just eating their peanut butter and jelly sounds like, fuck his lunch.
But what's really cool about that, Joe, is that in the special, I remember that joke,
because it's such a funny,
the image is so funny.
It really resonated with your crowd.
Like it really,
when you say mongo beans,
like,
that's no joke.
You were,
yeah,
you were not alone with that.
Especially when I said patis,
when I go,
when the little kid goes,
what's that bag of sauce?
And I go,
patis,
I go,
it really makes the food taste good.
Don't spill it on your shirt.
You'll smell like pussy all day.
I'm telling you,
I don't know if this is a G-rated,
podcast, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Tom, the reason why that struck a cord so hard
with that Patis joke is because Patis is fermented fish sauce and it's in this bottle and it starts
to like, like salt starts to form on the cap to the point where you can't even unscrew it
because it's so salty and fermented and it just, it's one little drop, it turns your whole
dish into salt and, and you're my, every mom, every Filipino mom goes,
Don't drop it because it'll stink.
Like a bomb.
Don't drop it.
Please, my God.
Be careful.
Not too much.
And that patis sauce was never in the cabinet with the other sauces.
It was never in with soy sauce, terriaki or anything.
It was underneath the sink next to the dishwashing soap.
I swear to go to go to any Filipino house.
It's right next to the dishwashing soap.
Because it's so potent.
It's so potent.
It's so bad.
It's like chloro.
It will we finish your floor.
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
And when I said it, man, and when I said that, as graphic as I was, that's exactly the attitude.
Every kid, like, if you drop it, your mom will kill you.
If you drop that on the rug, oh, I just smell that.
Do you smell that?
Why did you eat in the living room?
Get on the table.
Oh, my God.
So, true.
So when you get a little taste of, I can.
can perform in people like me.
Yeah. Which is happening with you dancing in
high school.
Are you also funny at this point?
Yeah. You're a funny kid.
I was funny. I know Tom, it's going to sound like I'm
exaggerating. I think right around 6, 7,
my mom, I was always the funny kid.
And I knew it because I knew I was making adults laugh.
Right.
But, you know, Filipinos are, they love to entertain.
So when there's a lot of us, there's a lot of us,
there's a lot of us, you know, like, watch them,
watch any documentary on Manny Packow.
Any fight, you know, you see the other fighter fighting and it's like him,
his coach, and like some old grandfather that bought him his first pair of gloves on his
team.
And then you go to, you go to Manny's family, and he's got 60 people in the living room.
He's got his coach sleeping in a closet.
It's true.
And that's literally, that's my family.
I have so much, you came to my house, like, just right there alone is proof that it's
about family first.
before anything else.
It's like, and that's how we are.
You know, you see.
I remember Pacquiao, those things with Pacquiao, like, getting up to go train.
Yeah.
And it was literally just a sea of people sleeping in his apartment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you open up the closet to grab your jacket and there's his coach.
Oh, I'm still working on the tapes.
I'm figuring out how to fight Mayweather.
And that's really how it is.
And we're very famous.
So what was your, so when you're a little kid and you're in front of all those people,
What's your, do you remember what your, what your go-to routine was?
Just doing the accents and acting like, you know, the aunties, you know, always acting like the uncle or the grandfather.
Just, they would love it because I would knock it out the park.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I fell in love with, you know, and I always say this, that I indirectly fell in love with comedy in the Philippines because I used to watch Filipino variety shows because the military base would censor.
they're programming.
So they wouldn't even have American commercials.
I remember me and my sister would look at each other and go,
man,
we miss Lucky Charms commercials.
Like, we missed it.
Yeah.
Because it's just like, you know,
you miss those things because the commercials on the bases are always about the base exchange.
And how to wear your uniform and you better not, you know,
when you're captured,
make sure you're an American.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like all this propaganda shit.
And I just want to see Snapcrackle pop, you know.
And so my sister and I would always,
flip the channel and watch the Filipino channels because they would have commercials.
They would have kids and they would have variety shows.
Like we didn't really understand it, but like they would sing, they would dance.
They would do comedy, slapstick.
So that was my first look into like comedy.
And I knew I was funny.
So yeah, yeah.
And animated.
So when do you, so when do you leave Washington State?
Where did you first do stand up then?
We left the Philippines.
in 1981 and that's when I got to
Seattle, Washington. That's where my dad retired in 81
and that's when my mom and dad divorced. And that's when I just
really was kind of like, not depressed, but, you know,
we didn't have any money and I buried myself in stand-up.
Like, I would literally, like, the, this is such a hard thing to
explain VHS, VHS tapes to the kids now. But, you know,
VHS tape had three speeds. It had EP,
LP and EXP or something like that, which was extended or something like that.
And that would get you either two hours, four hours, or six hours of videotape.
You remember?
Depending on how you would record.
So I would always go to XP or whatever it was.
And I would get like three or four specials on one tape.
And I would always wait for like HBO to pull out an hour special and I would record it.
And that's all I would do.
I would watch.
Robin Williams live at the Met, Whoopi Goldberg, around the world and 18 motherfucking
days, Bill Cosby himself, Delirious, Richard Pryor, live on sunset.
Yeah.
It was just all of those.
And I would literally, I'd watch one, repeat it, watch it again, pull out another.
I would just watch stand-up.
That was what I did.
Is that crazy?
Yeah, it was crazy that you, all the way across the country in New Jersey, total different
upbrings, total different thing, watching the same stuff, all those same specials over
and over and over.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
going to school on this thing.
It's such a cool thing to think.
Yeah.
And then we navigate our way through all these different stuff,
which I want to ask you more about that.
But then we end up in the same place all these years later.
It's such a crazy, great path.
It's awesome, man.
That's why I always stay on your path.
It's a long road.
You know, every now and then,
you'll run off to the side of the road and there's that gravel,
that shit that pops your tires every now and then.
And that's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
get back on that road, man.
Don't stay there with the gravel.
Just keep staying on that path and it'll happen.
I always say that, man.
But, you know, where was your, where was your first set?
My first, my first set was in Las Vegas.
But you know, you know, what's crazy is I saw, I watched Delirious and that's when I fell
in love with Eddie Murphy.
It was 1981, 82.
And then in 1986, he was on, he did the raw tour.
Remember the raw tour?
Yeah, yeah.
And I had to call, did I tell, did I tell you?
you this story already?
No, no.
Where I took my mom's credit card because this is before the internet.
You had to call Ticketmaster.
And by the way, Ticketmaster didn't even have its own building.
They would be, like, they would lease out like an area at like the mall.
Like if you had to go like to the department store and it was upstairs.
Right.
Human resources.
And that's where you had to pick up your tickets, right?
Right, right.
So I called with my mom's credit card.
Mind you, no one knows what a Filipino woman sounds like.
So they're not going to argue the fact that this is a Filipino woman.
using the credit card.
So I would call, I called.
And like, I would like to get two tickets to the Eddie Murphy show, please.
Just two tickets as close.
Please, as close as possible, please.
And got those fucking tickets, man.
And I was 15 years old, me and my best friend, William.
He didn't want to go because he didn't know what stand-up was.
And I'm like, are you kidding?
He's like, Eddie Murphy, the actor?
You want to go see him live?
What was he going to do?
Like, he didn't even understand what stand-up was.
And got 10 rows.
from the stage, man. Paul Mooney open
for him. And I'm 15
in the Seattle Coliseum
and I've never seen it more
packed. Like I, the
son- Like a rock star. The supersonic
didn't even get that many people in there.
And I remember just looking like,
wow, this is amazing.
This is what I want to do, man.
Wow. That's crazy.
Have you ever seen Raw? Have you ever seen Raw?
Yeah, yeah.
The one who's in, he's like in a black
outfit. Yeah. And you remember it's a red
when he walks out, it's like a red, black silhouette behind a red screen.
And he stands like this and then it comes up and he walks out.
That red screen was on stage and it played a montage of all his highlights.
It was a screen.
And it went on for like three minutes to music.
And everyone was cheering.
It would be like, it would be Gumby.
And then it would be like Butwee.
And then it would be like 48 hours and just like little one-liners.
And then it would just start speeding up.
It would start speeding up and speeding up and then bam, it turned red.
and it was him behind it.
Bro, rock star shit.
Rock star.
The people, I mean, I've never seen people jump out like they were screaming.
People were running up against the stage.
It was just like, you got to remember, it's like 86, 87.
I can't remember the time, 87.
Like, just imagine how huge Eddie is at this time.
Yeah, that's mind-blowing.
Yeah, that's mind-blowing.
Just to see that, that movie, that montage was just incredible.
There's no cable, by the way.
I think it was HBO.
all we had. So, you know, this was in like easy access. We were seeing something that no one else
ever saw. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, like, I'm in love with Eddie and I'm just like,
holy shit. Yeah, no one's holding up their phones and sharing that. No one, yeah, everyone is in that
moment, man. It's amazing. Six months of that anticipation, yeah, six months of just like
waiting for Eddie to come. And I literally, I was looking up the Capitol Theater in Pasek, New Jersey
last night because that's where I come from
when I was, there was this old capital theater
and I was like, whatever happened to that?
And it's since closed down.
But there was a Bruce Springsteen performance.
It was a rock club.
It started as a vaudeville house
and then became a rock club,
rock theater,
who everybody played there.
And they were talking about,
I think it was like 79 or something,
a concert, one concert,
that Bruce Springsteen performed there.
Wow.
And the impact,
of that, just through word of mouth, that people still talk about that one show.
I mean, the power behind pouring so much of yourself into a performance that it could
resonate like that without any other media like you're saying, without any other thing to
spread it, other than just people walking out and telling everybody else, you got to check
this guy out.
Just grass roots.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That energy is beautiful.
Man.
And, you know, I'll jump to this.
because it's on the subject of these big places,
but I want to go back to some other stuff
of your path along the way,
but you're playing those places now.
You're playing these jumbo rock star arena-sized places.
Crazy.
I mean, you're there.
You're doing those shows.
It's crazy because I remember the first time I met you
at the Laugh Factory,
and I was working three jobs.
I was working three jobs.
I was at Nordstrom Rack.
I was cleaning yachts.
So I'm pretty sure when I saw you, it was after cleaning a yacht.
I'm pretty sure I had mustard all over my chest and Wells Fargo.
And I remember seeing you sitting down and you had an all-black outfit on.
You told me about how you, when you travel, you like to just pack my black pole on my black jeans.
I don't like to dig for clothes.
Just put all my outfit and get on stage.
And I just remember saying to myself, man, I want to live that life, man.
like I want to be on the road.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so crazy.
It's crazy, man.
It's crazy you say that because I don't remember you,
I always just remember you as being the guy who killed at the Laugh Factory.
Like you were,
I mean, you were, you know, I don't remember like you having other jobs.
I just remember you as a comic.
Yeah.
And you were just always killing.
You were always really hitting it out of the park.
I had no idea at the time that you were.
that you were in a, like, because I came from New York.
So, yeah, I had no idea you were broke.
I had no idea.
You were so sad.
You know, that's the cool thing about comedy, though, man,
because we're so in love with what we're doing that we don't show that.
We're literally living our dream job and we're making people laugh.
And the energy that we get back is amazing.
When people laugh and clap, that's a drug that we can.
that no one could sell.
Like you can never sell the high that we get.
It's incredible.
No, that's what's so difficult about.
No, I'm sorry.
That's why I was like,
I may have been depressed,
you know,
I was broke.
I was working three jobs.
But when I walked through that laugh factory door,
I was in heaven,
man,
and like talking to someone like you,
you know what I mean?
And knowing what you were already doing,
like, I was like, wow.
And when I found out that you were opening for sign foot,
I was just like, wow.
You know what I'm like?
It's like, whoa, that's possible.
Like, if I could do that.
Yeah, and John Lovitz would walk in.
Chris Rock would walk in.
It's like, dude, you're in heaven right now.
Like, I don't have time to be depressed.
I'm happy.
And all I did was just stay focused because I knew my turn would come, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And to pass the Great Western Forum because, you know, I lived over there.
I lived on that side of town, so I would pass it.
I would always pass the Great Western Forum.
and then and then boom here I am I sold out two of them back to back like it was so insane it's
crazy it's so crazy so what where did it go from where did it go from doing really well on the road
to that can I tell you just one story though yeah just one real quick one I'm sorry
when I talk I talk I have a lot of coffee that's why I asked you to do the podcast but delirious was
my everything I think that one is the one where I broke the tape like
I rewounded and watched it so many times.
He was the, he was the, I think the most mature teenager ever to do comedy.
I don't think they'll ever witness something like that again.
Yeah.
You know, because people seem to forget delirious.
It's like, you know, sometimes, you know, people are like, yeah, I like delirious.
It's a little dirty.
And I'm like, well, you know, he just turned 21 when he shot that.
Oh, my God.
Like, you know, you know, him working on that craft.
The kid was 1920.
He was 19, 20 years old.
And the way he commanded that stage and the confidence
and just the way he articulated,
the way he embodied the characters,
the way he became his mom and his aunt bunny and his uncle Gus.
Like, bro, at 21, are you kidding me?
Ralph Cramden.
Ralph Cramden, yeah, everything.
He was just, it was so amazing to see him.
Oh, my God.
that he sang the Michael Jackson song.
It's Stevie.
It's just amazing.
James Brown.
James Brown.
Like, and then you're like, he's 21.
Like, this guy's a genius.
Anyways,
Delirious is something I watch all the time.
And I remember, Tom, I'm not even lying when I say this.
I used to always say this.
I'm going to play that venue.
I'm going to play that venue.
I swear to God, I'm going to play that venue.
That's, uh, that's constitutional hall.
It's the Dar.
The Dar, Constitutional Hall in D.C.
And I always wanted to play it.
It's like 6,000 or something like that.
6,000 seats or something like 7,000 seats.
And it's just beautiful.
It's so beautiful.
And I have the text.
I'll show you the text.
And I text, I remember I woke up in the middle of the night.
And I went and I text my manager.
I go, bucket list gigs.
And I need to do this now.
And I said, you know, the forum.
And I said the opera house in Sydney, Australia.
and then I said the Philippines
and then I also said
the DAR, Constitutional Hall.
I go, I have to play the DAAR.
And we knocked them all out.
And when I played the DAR, we sold two of them out.
And I remember the night of the show,
I had to find a red jacket.
And I went and found a red jacket.
And then I told the manager of the venue,
I go, I have to walk out of the same door.
as Eddie, the same door that he walked out on, I have to walk in that door.
He goes, yeah, he goes, unfortunately, we have to leave that open because that's, you know,
that's actual seating.
Like people sit there.
I go, I go, you don't understand, man.
I waited almost 40 years for this.
I need to walk through that door.
Yeah.
So they sat the seats, put a security guard there, and told them that they can't go through
that until I walked through it.
It was the coolest thing what they did for me.
And that door is still there, Tom.
Really?
Yeah, they renovated the place, but that door is still there.
I'm telling you, it's so eerie.
Like, I had a videographer, you know, my video guy always comes with me, and he recorded it,
and I'm standing next to the same door.
Like, we cut it, we spliced it to where Eddie is standing next to it,
and then we splice it, and then I'm standing next to that door, and I walk out,
and I swear, Tom, I'm not making this up.
The way I hit that stage and wave to the office.
audience. It was like, that was my Eddie Murphy moment. That was my 40 years right there, man.
Oh my God. That's what an achievement. Yeah, it was, it was amazing, man.
But back to that, but back to that question. Yeah. I mean, where, where does, where does that
bucket list? At what point did that become viable? I think when, uh, when I did live from Seattle,
when I shot live from Seattle and the minute it aired, Tom,
It was over with, man.
That Netflix special.
Yeah, the first one, the one that I paid for, the one that they said no too.
You didn't made yourself.
And I made it myself and paid for it.
And then I submitted it to Netflix and they ended up buying it from me.
And the minute they aired it, I swear to God, Tom, it was like I literally felt it.
It was over with it.
I knew it.
It was over.
Like my Instagram, like I remember as I was watching it, just kept going, blub, blub, blub,
Blub, like follows.
And then my tour, I remember my tour was completely sold out.
Like literally it was like a week later,
the entire tour was sold out for the rest of the year.
And that was in March.
So like the rest of the tour was completely sold out.
We were literally talking about adding shows
because all the other shows sold out.
So now we were like talking about adding.
And then we decided to go to Hawaii.
And when I, when we said we were going to play Blaisdale, Hawaii,
We were only going to do two shows, right?
A Friday and a Saturday show.
And those sold out in minutes, like minutes it sold out.
And then the venue goes, do you want to add shows to the same night?
And we did.
And that sold out in minutes.
And then they go, we have a Sunday available.
Do you want to add it?
Added it, sold out minutes.
And then next you know, it was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
And the internet broke or something you did.
It just kept selling it immediately.
Yeah, it kept selling out.
I remember we were refreshing the seat map on ticket masks.
We kept refreshing it.
And it looked like a virus, like outbreak.
Like it was like, in 24 hours, this is what America's going to look like.
And it was just turning red and refreshing.
That's amazing.
I know that feeling just from looking at this and like, come on, am I, come on.
Let's sell out.
It happened like that must have been just nirvana.
It was awesome.
Because there was years where I was just like, am I going to get a break or what?
Like I remember when Netflix said no to me, I looked at my age and I go, should I just quit then?
Because I really don't know what I'm doing right now because I'm selling out improvs everywhere and they don't even want to look at me.
Like, why am I doing this?
If I can't even get an hour on Netflix, then why am I doing this?
And like, I was depressed, Tom.
I was really like, I remember when we hired the director and how much they charged.
By the way, they're amazing.
They're amazing.
But I just remember saying to myself, I cannot believe I have to pay this much money to get this shot.
Like, this sucks, dude.
I was like, I got to feed my son, man.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's big money.
That's important stuff at that point.
That's a risk.
And I'm glad I have the management that I do and the agent that I have because they believed in it.
They were like, don't worry, just make it.
Just you be you and let us do the work.
We'll get it to Netflix.
And they did.
Thank God.
And they got to Netflix.
That's laying in the grass.
That's laying in that side gravel, right?
And then popping up.
So how, so how?
By the way, I hit 24,000 tickets sold at the Blazell Arena.
It was 12 sold out shows in, oh, no, 11 sold out shows in a row, and it broke Mariah Carey's record.
And then they gave me my own day.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Your own day for what?
Joe Koy Day in Hawaii, yeah.
In Hawaii.
November 23rd is Joe Koy day.
Oh, my God.
So what?
So is that a Filipino?
It's everything.
It's all of Hawaii.
Connecting to, like, that connection with those people.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I mean, I want you to come with me to Hawaii one day.
It's pretty incredible.
Yeah.
They love me there, man.
And that's why when I shot coming in hot,
I had to shoot it in Hawaii because of that.
It's like I had to give back to them
because they were the first ones that ever do anything like that
for me.
Yeah.
23,000 people right after the special drop.
It was crazy.
That's so crazy.
I mean, it's such a, you could not pick a better place to be like, that's the city
that adopted me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I love it.
I have a little of that with Cleveland.
And I love them.
But you're not going for two weeks vacation.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
That's so funny.
So when you, when you start to, at what point?
point in this journey.
Coming in hot.
Is your mom, no, is your mom's starting to feel like, uh, like this was ultimately
the right choice?
Because I know she was, because you, you've, I've heard you talk before about how she was
concerned about you getting like a real job and all that kind of stuff.
At what point did she start to think, okay, he made the right choice.
It was after, it was after live from Seattle because it was that late.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Are you kidding me?
So that whole run when you're doing pretty well as a comic and you're selling out.
Yeah, I was still selling like, you know what I mean?
Ben, he was like a strong.
Oh, I was strong.
Yeah, I was strong.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
But I mean, the business you were doing, like for your mother to be to, she still wasn't sold.
Yeah, I don't think she really understood it.
She didn't know what it meant.
It was crazy.
And it wasn't until live from Seattle that that's when, you know,
where she was getting hit left and right.
Everyone knew who Joe Coy's mom was.
Everyone in Vegas knows who Joe Coy's mom is now.
And everyone's a piece.
It's to the point where if I turn down some type of thing that I, you know, I don't have time.
I don't have enough room to do it.
Yeah.
Somehow they booked my mom.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Are you kidding me?
So now my mom's going to D.C.
And she's going to talk on my behalf?
Okay, cool.
So she really does?
Yes.
It's so great.
Yeah.
Yep. On behalf of my son and I, we like to thank you for, you know, enjoying his comedy.
It's so amazing. Well, she's such a character in your act. I mean, she's such,
and everybody must be carrying on carrying their own version of what she is in their head, right?
Yes. Oh, I love it, man. I really do. I love it when someone that's not Filipino goes Joseph.
You know what I mean? Oh, Joseph. I love it. It's really cool because they, like you said, they enjoy
the character. It's not me making fun
of my mom's culture, making fun of her.
They enjoy her character.
They love the way she runs the
house and she's a badass. So
they love that. And they identify with
their mom. They always say that, oh, my mom does
the same shit. Right.
I know, I know.
It really is kind of, it really is an interesting
thing. It's the cultures that have
a real strong identity, it doesn't
matter what it is.
Yeah. It's, the similarities
are so profound.
Yeah.
They always just come together.
The mom is always a dominant figure.
Yes.
It's always big and chaotic and loud and crazy.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter of a German, Italian, Filipino, Japanese.
It's all those cultures that have that real strong, strong identity.
Yeah.
The similarities are so, so strong.
Yeah, that's so true.
So when you travel around now, after you've,
I mean, this special is going to do it even more.
But when you travel around, have you called the Filipinos out of the woodwork?
Like, because when you're a kid and you don't have that person to look up to,
and now you are that person.
Yeah.
Do you have people of all ages like, hey, do you feel that?
Yeah, it feels good too.
because, you know, it's something that I always, always wanted when I was a kid.
You know, I wanted my Filipino superhero so bad, man.
And I'm telling you, man, I stood on that soapbox.
The minute I found out that anyone was Filipino, I stood so tall, man.
I don't know how many times I told everyone that Lou Diamond Phillips was Filipino when I watched La Bamba.
And I'm not even portraying to be funny, Tom.
But I found out that Lou Diamond Phillips was Filipino playing Richie Valibald.
I literally every chance I'm like you know you know the guy that played obama's
Filipino right yeah just like me yeah he's Filipino Tia Carrera Filipino totally
Carrar are you kidding me she's got the Asian eyes she's Filipino and you had to like really
research it by the way there was no Google back then so yeah yeah yeah you had to like research
it go and bring out a newspaper article yeah yeah yeah he had to find the bio a real bio
yeah and I told you the story about Rob Schneider right when I found out that oh yeah but tell tell
it again though you said it on my radio
radio show, but I want people to hear this.
When I was on a date and we went to go watch a movie and it was a Rob Schneider movie and I'm on a date.
And literally there was a scene where his dad goes, your mom misses you so much.
She made you your favorite dessert, raspberry babinka.
And when he said babinka, Tom, my mouth, I remember looking at the chick that I was with, I was like, he's full of peanut.
Do you know, that babinka?
I eat babinka.
Like, does anyone know what Babinka is?
It's delicious.
Like, literally I gave two shits about the movie.
Now it's all about Rob Schneider.
He's Filipino.
I went crazy.
And then I remember driving home that night.
And I was, like, as happy as I was that he said Babinka.
Like, Babinka is on the silver screen.
Like, holy shit.
They just said a Filipino word.
And now I got to tell everybody at work that Rob said Babinka.
And, oh, I got to get my mom to make Babinka so they know what the fuck Babinka is.
And then as I'm driving home and I'm so excited, Tom, I swear to God, same breath I go,
why did he say raspberry?
I was so mad that he said raspberry, Tom.
Because you don't eat that.
No one eats raspberry babinka.
That doesn't even exist.
There's no such thing as Raspberry Babinka.
Like, what the hell?
Like, why did they put Raspberry?
I was so pissed.
This thing ate at me.
It ate at my soul for years, Tom.
Oh, my God.
Whatever that movie came out.
However long it was before I finally met Rob Schneider.
And then now we're good friends, right?
Right.
We meet at the laugh factory.
And next you know, we're good friends.
And he's like, hey, let's meet for dinner.
You know, we go to dinner, right?
And now is my time, Tom.
My first time, man, you know, here he is complimenting.
Man, I love your comedy, man, blah, blah.
I was, oh, dude, Rob, you're the reason why.
I told him the story of like, you don't understand, man.
Like, when you said Babinka in that movie, dude, my heart jumped out of my chest.
I remember screaming it to everyone in the theater.
it was such a proudful moment, man.
Like I was so happy to hear that word come out of your mouth and find out that your
film was, oh, thanks, man.
Thanks.
I go, hey, man, why the fuck did you say raspberry?
You swear to God, Tom?
Why the fuck did you say raspberry?
As beautiful as that moment was, man.
It was the most, like, you don't understand how proud I was.
I couldn't wait to tell my mom that's a roller coaster of emotions.
Yeah, but you, bro, why the fuck did you say raspberry?
That doesn't exist.
We don't even have raspberries in Philippines.
What do you do it?
And you're not going to, this is what exactly what he told us.
This is what he told me, Tom.
He goes, he goes, you don't understand.
I didn't want them to say raspberry.
I just wanted them to say babinka because I wanted to get like a Filipino word in the script.
And the writers, he goes, I just wanted like them to say my mom made a dessert.
Here's your favorite babinka.
I just wanted them to say babinka.
And the writers kept arguing with me that that people that,
aren't Filipino, would even know what the hell
Babinka is.
What is that? I don't know if Babika is.
So we argued and argued, and we
finally came to the conclusion that if
I say raspberry, if he says
Raspberry, they're going to know that it's a dessert.
So he goes, I said,
yeah, he goes, so I was just like, all right, as long as you say
Babinka, you guys can say Raspberry.
That's hilarious. All right, now
now he goes, now here's
the question. Yeah. What is
Babinka? Oh, Babinka.
Okay, I'll take you, man.
Yeah, I'd love to.
Yeah, it's just a rice cake, man.
It's delicious, man.
A rice cake?
Yeah, it's just, yeah, but there's so many different kinds of rice, Babinka.
And I want you to try all of them, but it's basically made with rice and it's a dessert.
Yeah.
Is it good?
Delicious.
Really?
It's so good.
Is that the top dessert?
Is that the number one dessert?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot.
Hollow Hollow is our national dessert.
That's the one that we hold on a peasant.
pedestal and want to show off to the world.
And it's basically just a slushy with like beans and coconut.
It's like a poor man's ice cream.
You know what I mean?
You put evaporated milk over shaved ice.
You put like sweet beans and coconut and jelly.
That's our national thing.
But you'll like the babinka, especially because you're a bread guy.
You're going to love it.
Now, do you cook?
Do you, can you cook, Philippine food?
Oh, I can cook, yeah.
Oh, yeah?
And during this quarantine, I've gotten so much better.
Really?
I've become a chef.
So, yeah.
So if I'm coming over to your house, if I'm coming over to your house and you're going to make me dinner, what's your go-to?
What are you most proud of?
I have created something that no one has ever made in the Philippines.
Thank you.
And it's baked Filipino.
I don't know why I said Filipino.
baked
adobo chicken wings.
So I take the chicken wings
and then I'm marining them
and I cook it just like you do regular adobo
but then I stick it in the oven
and I bake it to a crisp
and then I glaze it again
with the adobe sauce
and then I bake it again.
I'm telling you,
I posted it on the internet,
I posted it on IG,
Filipinos are going crazy for it.
I would have, yeah, it makes perfect sense.
I'm exaggerating right out of top.
Oh, really?
But they love it.
It sounds like they would.
No, it is amazing.
People always ask for it.
So it's, that's what I would make for you.
You would love it.
Dipping sauce?
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
The dough bowl dipping sauce.
Oh, you dip the wing in the sauce.
In the sauce.
Yeah.
I'll put it on the side for you.
On the side.
With the scoop of rice right next to it.
You'll love it.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
We are doing this.
Yes, we are.
That is right up my alley.
That is right up my alley.
I'm telling you would kill in the Philippines, Tom.
you and crush man
the next time I go
as a bread baker or is a comedian
as a bread baker
in the Philippines
man
I really want to
I know that was kind of
of my friends
that's what was so interesting
about your new special
it you
there was no
there was no
I can tell
because I've done these specials
I can you can tell
when you have to do
like tricky editing
this is your
their response to your jokes
is just like
you were doing it
in L.A.
Yeah, yeah, that's because,
and I think I've told you,
can you hear me, Tom?
Yep.
Can you hear me?
Okay.
Yeah.
I think I told you earlier about,
I think on your radio show,
that Instagram and Facebook has fused
these cultures together.
You know, there's Filipinos that speak English
in the Philippines,
and they are hip to our culture in America.
And they're getting it.
They're watching us.
They watch us in real time,
and they get it.
They get the nuances.
They get the timie is there.
They understand the different words that we use.
They get it.
They understand it.
So the tiny is perfect.
You know what I mean?
There's no delay.
And it's in your first set there was some, you, you said something.
And I was like, whoa, they got that.
Like there was, I forget what the word was.
But it was like, it was a very American take on something.
And they were right there.
They were like, right.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
It's amazing how this world is a lot closer than we think, Tom.
Yeah.
You know, yeah, it's not, it's not how we were when we were kids.
It's, it's, we are close now.
Yeah.
It's, it's a lot tighter now.
Man, oh man.
Yeah, and you would, you would kill out there, honestly.
Every time I bring somebody to the Philippines with me, they always beg to go back.
They just, they cannot believe it.
They're just like, I had no idea.
And that's what I wanted with the special, Tom.
Yeah.
I wanted to be that.
I want, I want people to know that, you know, there's people that speak in English,
the entire country speaks English, and they get it.
And you'll enjoy it, the food, the culture.
If you're an entertainer, you can go there and entertain.
You don't have to be scared.
They're going to get it.
They're going to love it.
Yeah.
And it seems like from the little reading I was able to do on the history of it,
it seems like they're kind of emerging as a democracy.
It seems like the young people, it seems like there's an energy and a hopefulness to the whole country.
Yeah, that's true. It is. And you'll see it when you go there. You're going to see a lot of, it's not the separation of classes. Like it used to be when I lived there. When I lived there, it was big government and then the poor, you know? And then, of course, the entertainers in between. And it was like there was no middle. There was no middle class. And you saw it, man. You saw the kids cleaning themselves in the street. You know what I mean with a bucket. And then next to you know, you see a mansion, you know. But now there's a middle class.
now. Now there's condo living. Now there's apartment living. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a nice divide now and these kids are waking up now. You know,
the younger are teaching the older now and it's cool and it's really, really cool, man.
And there's ways of making money on the internet now. So now there's another way of making money
and said it's always depending on foreign currency, which is what they did in the past.
You know, their number one for their economy was
based on foreign currency.
You know,
their parents
going to another country
and working and sending
the money back.
That's how they were,
you know,
and we're all like that.
Like my mom did it.
My mom sends so much money back.
We would send goods back.
You know,
it's called Balak Bayan.
Balak Bayan is a big giant box
and you filled it up
with as much as you can
because you get a certain amount,
you know,
for,
I'll make up a number right now,
but for 200 bucks,
you can send 75 pounds worth of stuff
and we would pack that thing.
And food,
chocolate, slippers, blah, blah, blah.
And you send it to your family, and they open it.
And, you know, it's like Christmas.
Like, oh, yes.
And so that's part of our culture.
And that's another reason for that show, that special.
Like, I knew how hard it was for me to get into Netflix.
And now that I'm here, I got the door slightly open.
Now let's go.
Come on.
They're going to look at a couple more Filipinos.
Get in here.
Yeah, yeah.
No, and all those other entertainers that you have on the special and stuff.
I mean, it's, it's, I mean, look,
I just got turned on to the special
and I've known you a long time
we've been friends for a long time
and it really took this special
to kind of like open up my eyes
to exactly where you came from.
It was an abstract idea
but then to actually see it is
really it's going to have an effect.
It's going to have a real profound effect.
Yeah, great job.
That means a lot, man. I appreciate you saying those words.
Yeah, no, I mean it 100%.
And listen, I will
like I said in the beginning, I dropped off a bread
and I didn't realize how much you guys love bread there.
Oh, you love.
I'm bringing you, I'll bring you some more.
You promise?
I promise.
We got to figure out the packaging of this.
I know.
This is hand in glove.
You have the perfect pod for it.
Yeah.
And I mean, unfortunately, due to this, what's going on,
we can't sit down and actually break bread.
We'll do it.
do one of those. But when we do,
it's going to be amazing. Oh, think about that.
My bread, your wings.
Oh, done. Done.
I'm bringing you, Babinka.
You're the best, Jo-Coy. I love you.
I love you, too. Thanks for doing this,
and I'll talk to you real soon. Thank you, boss.
Love you, Tom. All right, buddy. See ya.
