Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 10/14/26: Houthis Hit Saudi Aramco HQ, GOP Abandons Entire States, Press Sec Collapse On First Day

Episode Date: October 14, 2026

Ryan and Emily discuss Houthis hit Saudi Aramco HQ, GOP abandons entire states as Dems surge, new Press Sec collapses on her first day.   Amanda Janoo: https://www.janooforvt.com/Hussain al-lbukh...aiti: https://x.com/HussainBukhaiti     To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.com    Merch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Good morning. That was Ryan's losing it. I'm channeling the new White House Press Secretary, who we're going to talk about today. Had a really rough start yesterday. And as we were preparing the elements for the show, that single line, we're going to play it for you later, was ringing in our heads.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yes, she's currently White House Press Secretary. By the time you watch this, that may no longer be the case. She said she's moving her family to Washington, D.C. Maybe hit pause on that. Just rent. Just rent. See what happens. We're going to talk about the war unfolding between Saudi Arabia and Yemen. We're going to be joined from Sana by one of my favorite journalists there, Hussein al-Bukhidi,
Starting point is 00:02:22 a kind of huthi-aligned reporter who's going to talk to us about the back and forth. We've also got midterm updates. The midterms are going about as well for the Republicans as the war is going for Saudi Arabia, right? Fair enough. Well said. Fair enough. We'll also be talking about this, just because we all need it. We're going to be talking about Zakaria, the new White House press secretary and her first performance yesterday. Plus, hilarious questions about whether or not she lied about being a licensed attorney, the claim that she made that she passed the bar when she was in China. Really bad. Which is completely impossible. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And I don't know, maybe she's just a Chinese spy. It's, it's one of those... Come on, China. Is this what you got? Right. And it's one of those segments that the kind of DC media is going to cover for the who's up, who's down element of it. But there are actually some serious questions about her record being raised right now that could get her in genuine hot water. So we'll break that down. Plus, we'll just cover it for the absurdist element of it. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I have a new story over at DropSight about Mike Rogers, you know, insanely concerned. corrupt relationship with his wife who was a security contractor. She was getting more than a billion dollars in taxpayer money while he was chair of the House Intelligence Committee. We'll talk about that. There's a debate between Rogers and El Siyadh on Thursday night. There's also some Rogers is really leaning in on this whole Muslim Brotherhood. Maybe we can, think, and we can get into that a little bit. We'll also talk about the raid on Ilhan Omar's home looking for evidence in this like completely insane, politically charged investigation. And just because Vermont is also a state and never gets talked about, we're going to be joined by Amanda Janu, who is the Democrat running for
Starting point is 00:04:18 Vermont. Believe it or not, Vermont has an insanely popular Republican governor named Phil Scott, who's been in office for a very long time and is facing basically his first serious challenge. and the fact that he is vulnerable in Vermont is just suggests that the climate for Republicans nationwide is just absolutely toxic. Now quickly, if you go to breakingpoints.com, get to one month free,
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Starting point is 00:05:05 No. I mean, how, like, you can get 10,000 signups. Now, Saga would hate it. I don't, you know, which is not a reason that we shouldn't kind of pressure him to go. It's a reason that you do constantly pressure him to go. But I'm saying you could get 10,000 signups. He will not go to fish at Madison Square Garden. We'll see.
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Starting point is 00:06:14 We have here a one. What we're going to say, Ryan, tell us what we're seeing on the screen here. This is battle updates. So the Houthis have encircled Thais. The Houthis are the primary power in the Ansarala coalition. So right now you effectively have Yemen split between, and what you're seeing here is the kind of the advancement that the Ansar al-Lah military capacity is taken. Like there's been some debate online about that clip that you just saw, whether that tank was hitting a mine or whether the Houthis are able to kind of hit moving vehicles by mortar at this point. It does seem like there have been some incredible shots. So this is Western Taiz, which, so Ansarala now control. controls the entrance to Western Talyas effectively, just a matter of time until they take the last
Starting point is 00:07:04 city, which was one of the kind of loan holdouts that is not Aden. So roughly something like 70% of the Yemeni population lives now in territory, controlled by Ansar al-A, the rest is controlled mostly by forces linked to the UAE. Whereas the Saudi foreign, the Saudi forces. forces have been almost completely expelled. They live in hotels in Riyadh. Last week, the Saudi got their forces to kind of rush down the coast in armored vehicles with air support and retake some territory, but they had no plan to take and keep any of that territory at all. So they've since all been driven out. They lost most of the armored vehicles that they used. And, And now the Houthis are looking to encircle this last piece.
Starting point is 00:08:04 After which there's a lot of, we'll ask Hussein what he thinks is going on next, but there's no indication that they're going to attempt some military assault on Aden that what we'll be talking about is some type of a coalition government. And the Emirates are hoping that it will be a ton of, too-sexual. separate states, so they'll remain weak. We will see. President Trump says they're behaving very badly. Let's roll A2. Well, the Houthis are misbehaving very badly. They're misbehaving very badly. Very badly. Yeah, and he elaborated on that on social media. We can put up A2B. The Houthis are behaving very badly. I thought they learned their lesson a year ago when we buy.
Starting point is 00:08:58 bombed the hell out of them and at their request stopped. They've been silent. I love that idea. They just asked to stop and he stopped. They've been silent for a long time. But now they've emerged again, probably at the behest of Iran, which is a failing nation with no Navy, no Air Force, the world's worst economy, and 301 percent inflation. That's how you know it's true, because it's a very precise figure, in a very nasty way, hitting Saudi Arabia and purposefully driving up oil prices, probably to the U.S. elections, not nice. Somebody should explain to them that I'm not running in the elections. I've already won in a massive landslide,
Starting point is 00:09:38 but I'll be there after the elections, and I will never forget. We could explain this to Hussein Abu Qaeda when he comes on, and then he can relay that to the Houthis. These may be sophisticated political analysis that they're not familiar with. What do you think? That's the, well, you know, something tells me they've already heard this. That's going to be my guess. But, you know, it is amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 the power he wields with his words. And so yesterday, we can put up A3. Saudi Arabia hit, you know, significant oil sites in Yemen, oil depots in both Haudeta and Sana'a. And the Houthis had said if Saudi Arabia attacks their oil sites, they're going to hit back at Saudi oil sites. Specifically, they threatened Saudi Aramco's headquarters. We can put up A4.
Starting point is 00:10:27 there is some dispute about how significant the hit on Saudi Aramco's headquarters is. Saudi Arabia is acknowledging that they were, quote, targeted. They said there was some minor damage. There are other reports that the entire building was on fire. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between. But it does seem like Saudi Arabia did not hit Yemen as hard as it necessarily could. and the Houthis did not respond necessarily with a full-on escalation. So I think both sides are still leaving some room for an out here.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Because there's now a world kind of petroleum conference going on, and because of the Houthi attack on Saudi airport, a bunch of the oil executives didn't come. Saudis had to cancel another conference. They also canceled air raid sirens. Muhammad bin Salman is just a wild figure. He's like, I'm sick of these air raid sirens. He just turned them off.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So just just not, that's how I'm going to deal with a missile problem. You're just not going to hear about it. Just not here. Until it gets you. They are arresting journalists in Saudi Arabia who are just reporting what they're seeing with their own eyes. It was a very long time until they were willing to even confirm that there was a significant casualty event inside the civilian airport. They're desperately clinging to this idea that everything's fine. Come to the conference.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's going to be good. Vision 20, 30. We're cruising. It really is that Leslie Nielsen meme where nothing to see here. That's 100%. Nothing to see here. And literally behind them is fire and explosions. Sager and I were not arguing, but debating this a little bit last week.
Starting point is 00:12:21 How much longer do you think Trump can withstand the pressure he's certainly getting from MBS? I think Trump is, I think so, and I'm glad you asked that because it goes to Trump's point about we asked, we bombed the hell out of them and they asked us to stop and we did. Yeah. It is true we bombed the hell out of them. It is true that we reached a one-to-one ceasefire with them. But if you remember what Trump said afterwards, because he said they took a hell of a beating. And they kept knocking MQ9 drum. out of the sky. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Two planes, two American fighter jets fell off of aircraft carriers because we were, because we, our aircraft carriers were like running away from kind of, from Ansar ala missiles. And they, they have this domestic missile production capacity inside of mountains that with billions of dollars of munitions dropped on them, we were not able to stop. They also have the capacity to stop traffic in the Red Sea. This, a year and a half ago, was before they controlled the Babelman-Dap Strait. They were controlling it through their ability to cast ballistic missiles in that direction. Now they control the islands right there and the coastline.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So if Trump attacks Yemen, they will close that down. So Trump, I think, is just not going to. help out MBS. And also, if you're, if you're Trump, the reason that you care about MBS is the money that he has, it's not obvious that he's even going to be in power by the end of Trump's term. Like this is an absolute existential disaster for him. I mean, I think he's going to be extraordinarily dangerous on the way down. Well, I was going to say that actually ratchets up pressure on Trump even more, given all of the entanglements. I think he's probably asking who else in the royal family is going to run this thing next. All of the.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And how am I getting money from them? The financial entanglements between our what main power broker in the Middle East right now, who also happens to be the president's Sunday law. And our main media company. Right. Like CBS and that whole Ellison thing is heavily financed by Saudi Arabia. Right. And so given the very real threats to MBS's power right now,
Starting point is 00:14:48 whatever we think pressure Trump is facing, I feel like is 10x probably behind closed doors. But I imagine, so there's basically two ways out. for MBS. He can either win the war. With which he would need, or to do with, which he has shown over the last 11 years he can't do. Unless we're... Even with us and Israel helping him. Likely.
Starting point is 00:15:11 We couldn't do it. Like everybody was doing it. We killed half a million. Let alone after we're already stretched with Iran. Right. We killed half a million civilians there. Bombed the hell out of them, as he said, for a decade plus. And they're only stronger now. So he can't, like, he just physically cannot win the war. It's not possible. The precision strike
Starting point is 00:15:31 capabilities of these new munitions, drones and ballistic missiles, they're too cheap for countries to produce. You cannot put your boot on the neck of smaller countries in the way that you used to be able to do. And also, he's in a glass house. There's all these targets in Saudi Arabia. Whereas, once you've hit a few oil depots in Yemen, there's nothing much left to hit because he's been hitting it for 10 plus years. So he can either win the war, which he can't do, or he can peacefully coexist with a Yemen that has Ansar ala as a significant power player there. He also has refused to do that. So those are really the two choices. The third is just to fall, like flee to south of France or whatever he goes, which I don't know how he does that either. He's super paranoid. He's had his brother,
Starting point is 00:16:17 MBN, under house arrest and allegedly torturing him for like a decade. And he has, has also been brutal to everybody else in his family. He's feared and despised by a lot of the rest of the royal family. So, how's he even going to survive in exile? Right. But again, that makes it even scarier from our perspective, for many people's perspective, but in the U.S., that like what he is going to do to your point on the way down and what he could do in our direction on the way down in terms of pulling us into different conflicts. Yeah. And the CIA, if you remember, deeply opposed his coup against MBN. They said this guy is impulsive, reckless, short-tempered. He's a nutjob. So we don't want... So the CIA was like, we do not want this guy in here.
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Starting point is 00:20:07 I don't really care. Hussein Albuqueri, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you very much. You got it. So I wanted to ask you about the back and forth. We were talking about that at the beginning of the segment here where the Ansar Alat responded to the same. Saudi attacks in Haudeda and Sana'a by attacking Saudi Aramco's headquarters.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Where would you put the, where do you assess that they are on the, on the escalation ladder? Was this a significant counterpunch by Ansar Allah or were they holding back a little bit? Yeah, I think if you see that they have targeted the main HQ of Aramco in Damam, even though they have warned the Saudi and the Saudi could not stop this. attack and there was a huge damage to that building who controlled the entire Saudi Aramco operation in the west coasts, where the Saudi most oil field actually located. But I think this punch for Ansarra is just a warning or just can't send in a taste to the Saudi what Yemeni are well equipped to do, because still till now, Yemeni has not launched
Starting point is 00:21:19 a major attack against the Saudi oil field of themselves or gas field in West of Saudi Arabia, only a small attack using drones. So I believe that Yemen is still have the upper hand. And if the Saudi will not stop our demand symbol, to stop the war, lift the blue gate, withdraw from Yemen, stop interfering in Yemen, and then the Saudi could leave safely side-by-side with Yemen, and we will not attack them or target them. If they do not do that, this means that I believe that bigger attack will come towards Saudi Arabia. And how might the internal pressures and politics for MBS affect that decision?
Starting point is 00:21:55 I think at one point when he can feel that he's losing it, he must actually stop. But I think there are maybe a huge pressure on him from United States and as well from the Zion state of Israel. Because for Saudi Arabia to be defeated from Yemenis, just simple people, they did those people just with sandals. It could actually break not the reputation only in the Saudi Arabia, but the reputation as well of the United States because it's the one who is Saudi Arabia. Arabia is their greatest ally in the region.
Starting point is 00:22:28 They have been buying weapons with hundreds of billions of dollars through the many years. So it could be as well difficult for Muhammad bin Salman, but I believe that always you should think about your own people. Look here in Yemen or Yemeni government, we think about our people, we do whatever it take to protect our people. And for them, and for Muhammad bin Salman, he knows that if you stop attacking Yemen, Yemen will stop attacking Saudi Arabia and even if Saudi Arabia at one point in the future
Starting point is 00:22:57 will come under attack, a foreign attack from any country, I believe that Yemen will fight with the Saudi, we will try to protect them because we will not allow, as we did with the Palestinian people, we will do with any other country that will come under attack. And I hope that he will listen to his sense if he have some kind of sense because we have seen lately that the Saudi
Starting point is 00:23:22 are not actually equipped and are not able to stop in Yemeni attacks. Saudi has conducted 300,000 air strike against Yemen. They have killed 20,000 Yemeni civilians by direct air strike. They have destroyed the entire infrastructure of Yemen. They have targeted schools, hospitals, mosques, markets, farms, everything you can think of. Bridges, power station, entire Yemen, entire bridges has been destroyed and a hospital. And the blue gate has killed more than 400. 100,000 Yemeni civilians because of preventable diseases like malaria, cholera,
Starting point is 00:23:56 civilian malnutrition, lack of food, lack of water. It's because of this actually a result of this attack against Germany infrastructure. And as well, the blockade. That's why you've seen Yemen since they, before even launched any attack against Saudi, we formed an embargo. We say the blockade against blockade, airport against airport. But we didn't even targeted the Saudi Aramco facility. When they targeted Sama Airport, we blocked the Rizzi.
Starting point is 00:24:22 and we send warning no ship is allowed. What the Saudi have done, they have targeted Hodaita port. We targeted Yomboa port. Then what the Saudi have done, we didn't target Aramco. What they did, they have targeted a prison in Al Jav, killing and injuring dozens of civilians,
Starting point is 00:24:36 including women and children during the visiting hours. When they have done that, even though they've been bombing the battlefield, we said, okay, it's fine, they are bombing the battlefield, at least they are bombing fighters. They are not booming civilians. We ignored all this attack.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We didn't target Aramco, But when they target that prison, it was like an obligation for Yemeni armed forces to take an action. If they didn't take any action against Saudi Aramco, at that time, I think people would rise up against Ansarra al-Qaeda here. That's why would they have allowed that major attack against Aramco in Najran and in Jaisan and in Asir. And from that on, it has escalated more because Saudi continued to target Yemeni civilian infrastructure. And it's just, sorry, one more thing. the Saudi why wasting a fighter jet that cost you
Starting point is 00:25:21 or like a three or five fighter jet to send them to a civilian area to a market, to a school, to a bridge, to bomb it. While you can use those fighter jet in the battlefield to target the advance of Yemeni armed forces. So I think
Starting point is 00:25:37 I don't know, they enjoy killing civilians. They know every civilian is killed have a tribe behind him. The tribe will join Ansarra al-Dahuthi. Because Yemeni known that they will never ever leave, like they will take their revenge. Even after many, many years, they will not allow anyone to kill any of their relative without taking revenge. And this time, actually, the revenge is all on Saudi Arabia. If the ward is not brought to an end by Saudi Arabian,
Starting point is 00:26:07 I've seen some talk about Ansar al-A, potentially even moving into what is considered now Saudi territory. And I also saw an Sara-law official, I think it was Mohamed al-Bukhidi. By the way, is he your brother? Yeah, it's my brother. Is your brother. So I think I saw him talking about Yemen's willingness to support either, you know, rival factions in the Saudi royal family or other opposition groups inside Saudi Arabia. So what kind of offensive capabilities is Ansar Allah considering at this point?
Starting point is 00:26:41 We still, we see that Yemeni retaliation attack against Saudi, we still kind of been kind and nice towards Saudi Arabia because still Yemeni could launch hundreds of missiles against all the Saudi oil infrastructure and they could knock it out in a matter of hours and as well they can launch attack against Saudi power station. We did not do that yet. Saudi have destroyed all our power station
Starting point is 00:27:06 and as well against Saudi water plan. So actually they will die from thirst. They will taste a little bit of what they have been doing to Yemen. But one of the strongest cards that Yemeni have is a ground attack to South of Saudi Arabia, to Najran and Jaisan and Asir. And those provinces, actually, we still, every single Yemeni, still consider those as a Yemeni province that were taken by the Saudi in the 30s because of the help of the United Kingdom.
Starting point is 00:27:36 They have bombed the hell out of Adelaidea port and they have entered part there. and then our Imam at that time he was forced to give those to Saudi Arabia. In return, the United Kingdom stopped attacking Yemen and attacking Houdidah. But he had an agreement called the Taif Agreement. He made the Saudi sign an agreement that admitting that those are kind of rented in the Saudi. And the Saudi should not interfere in Yemen, should not launch war against Yemen. They should stop any like plan or anything that bad against Yemen. they should treat Yemeni as they treat Saudis.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And the Saudi since 1934, when it was signed, they have actually not implemented any of these paragraph in that agreement. So the Imam, when he did that agreement, he did it because he know at one point, we will have a strong army, we will have a strong leader like we have now, and we will have the power to take those back from the Saudi because he knows that the Saudi will break and obstruct every single agreement that was signed in 1934. That's why if this attack against Saudi Arabia will come,
Starting point is 00:28:46 I believe it is not only will be the Yemeni armed forces with their hundreds of thousands of fighters. It will be as well the entire tribes near the Saudi border. They are so bad up with the Saudi. Saudi has been shelling them, and even during the truth was signed 2002, which the Saudi has broke it in mid of July by Target and Sana Airport, The Saudi have been bombarded those areas, but not by airstrike, but just by, you know, artillery shell.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And you know, the news only catch if there's an airstrike. And they have actually dropped hundreds of thousands of cholesterol bombs on that area. Children are dying on a weekly basis because of those cluster bombs. On the Yemen side of the border? Yeah, on the Yemen side. And all those are tribal's area. So the only thing that's held in them from entering and launching war against Saudi, is because our leadership here is still saying no is not time.
Starting point is 00:29:43 If we can actually make Saudi to have peace of Yemen and withdraw from Yemen, we can negotiate about Najran and Jazeera and Asir by asking the Saudi to implement what was agreed. But if we enter those areas, I think our demand will be different. At the beginning, three months ago, our demand was simple, lift the blockade, implement the roadmap. And, you know, that was signed between us and the Saudi-backed government. The Saudi ignored all that. Now, our demand, we don't care about the roadmap. Because we are now the one who have the upper hand.
Starting point is 00:30:18 In every battle, if you advance, your demand will change. This is normal. I mean, there's not something that we are ashamed of. So the demand now is a total liberation of Yemen and to stop interference and all the things like that, the Saudi should not be interfered with anything in Yemen. If they didn't do that, and if at one point we're interrelated, those Najjaran Jaze and Asir, our demand will be different. And we will not withdraw from this area.
Starting point is 00:30:44 We might demand something more from the Saudi. So those latest attack against Saudi Arabia, actually, they are threatened the house of Saud. If your house made of glass, stop throwing rocks at your neighbors. Saudi Arabia was involved in the invasion of Iraq and the killing of millions of civilians, the attack on Libya, the war of terrorists against Syria, because they always try, and the Saudi United States to contain the war in the country, that country that they are attacking. But when it comes to Yemen, we will bring the fire
Starting point is 00:31:14 and we will open the gate of hell against them because we are not allowed them to burn Yemen while they are just having this Riyadh festival and I'm sure that they will not be able to help to hold the World Cup in 2034. Because if they continue, Yemen will destroy their economy and they will not have a single dime, actually. to spend in that World Cup. Well, you just mentioned that demands might change
Starting point is 00:31:42 and demands could be even more ambitious. Could you tell us a little bit about what that could look like or what people could expect? I mean, now the demands Saudi should leave Yemen and pay total compensation and not interfere in Yemen and withdraw all the troops
Starting point is 00:31:57 and stop supporting any groups in Yemen. And let us, Yemeni, we can deal with each other, fight each other, kill each other. They have nothing to do with it. Yemen has been gone through coups, through revolution, through like fighting, but there was no outside intervention. We had the answer to each other. So the demand, like I said, if the Saudi will not implement that,
Starting point is 00:32:19 if they will not stop interfering Yemen, because they are now trying to gather countries to attack Yemen. They are trying to plan for a bigger war against us. So if that will come, this means that Yemeni will expand its attack and it will enter Saudi Arabia. And if we enter Najran and Jaisana and Asir, it will be silly and stupid to withdraw from them if the Saudi will say, okay, I will leave Yemen.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, that was before. We demanded that. But now, because you are defeated, you have gathered all the evil from around the world to fight us. And because now you failed, you need to have the same deals or the same demand that we were asking you for the last few months. So I think this is something that it's our right. And as well, I think one of the most important things that if entering Najraan, Jaisana, and Aseer, to withdraw from this area, it will actually stain the reputation of Ansarulah till the judgment day.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Everybody will say, look, at one point, we were strong, we entered those area, and we took them, and they just handed it back to Saudi Arabia. So that's what I think, and Sarulad, and they are actually not willing to enter Saudi at this point because they are thinking now about Yemen. But if the Saudi will gather all the evils around the world to kill Yemenis, I believe the Saudi will lose its so-called territory now in Saudi Arabia. And it could be actually maybe the beginning of the end of the Saudi royal family. because if you knock out their oil, if you keep targeting them and knock out their security, their safety,
Starting point is 00:34:04 this means Saudi Arabia will not exist. It only exists on those things. Security, a tyrant state, and as well their oil revenue. If you knock it out, this means that Saudi royal family will not exist, actually. And with that in mind,
Starting point is 00:34:18 there's been some reporting that Mohammed bin Salman has been considering having Israel come in and assist with the war on on Sir Allah, but that Netanyahu is insisting on basically a visit, a state visit, and wants Saudi Arabia to kind of ask publicly and be open about the relationship. That's not something that MBS is willing to do at this point. I would imagine if it's between him falling and allying with Israel,
Starting point is 00:34:51 he would choose a desperate alliance with Israel. So what is the current status, though, of Ansar al-A's relationship with Israel? In other words, are Israeli ships allowed at this moment to pass through the Red Sea? And how is Ansar al-Aq thinking about these kind of negotiations between Saudi Arabia and Israel? Yeah, I mean, this is regarded ships about Israel. And as well, it's actually funny because when we were targeting Israeli ships, try to stop the genocide in Gaza and attack in Israel and declared war against Israel. We were the first, the only country who declared a war and targeted ships as well.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So, the United States has come to Prosperity Guardian and they start targeting Yemen, and then we have widened our target to, as well, to United States ship and UK ships. Everyone, even Saudi Arabia, they were condemning us and saying, threaten the Ritzi. And now because we are not targeting Israeli ship or United States ship, the Saudis crying out loud why we are targeting
Starting point is 00:36:03 their ship and not targeting Israeli and United States ship. And regarding the Israeli ship, anyone can check this marine traffic. There is no single Zionist ship there to go through the Ritzis. As will the Eilat port, or as it Omer Rushrach,
Starting point is 00:36:19 south of occupied Palestine, is still closed. I mean, there is no single ship in that port. And Yemeni actually, they are, because our demand was to stop the genocide or that there is a ceasefire. If Hamas has accepted a ceasefire, this is actually our demand. And Hamas requested, it was like we said that the battle in the Red Sea is the battle of Hamas. And to stop attacking in the Red Sea is in the hand of Hamas. So this means that in the ceasefire, Hamas requested from us to stop attacking.
Starting point is 00:36:52 the Israeli ships in the Ritz. We did our best, but as soon as there is any, I mean, we want to target Israeli ship, but if Hamas is respecting that truth, I mean, they are the one, it's their land. I mean, they are more concerned about Palestine, I can say more than us, because they are the people who live in that land.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So this is regarding those ship of Israel, but I believe that as you mentioned, that Muhammad bin Salman and Israeli actually, and United States, they are trying to blackmail. Muhammad bin Salman either to bring him to normalization. Of course they have good and close relation, but to make it openly. And I believe at one point, Muhammad bin Salman will do it, but if he do it, actually, it will be great.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And it will show the entire world, especially the Muslim world, is not about protecting Macca and the Macca Park and the Sunni country like Pakistan and Turkey to protect Macca. It's all actually about the protection of the Zionist and the protection of the Saudi royal family. And I can say that I believe, and I'm sure that at one point, Saudi for them to gather to make the war with Yemen as a sectarian violent, like, you know, holy places is against Houthis. I believe that Saudi at one point will launch a drone attack against Mecca, Al-Qaabah, or against the holy mosque in Medina. They will do it because those attacks from Yemen that targeted Saudi Arabia is threatened the existence of the royal family. I mean, believe me, they are so they didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:38:24 They've been begging, calling every minister of defense to come and to save them. So they will do that because the United States have this locust drones. There is a copycat from the Iranian Shahid drones. And the Saudi as well, they have announced before the attack during this recent three months supplying a copy of Shahed drones or those locust drones
Starting point is 00:38:50 supplying it to the Saudi-backed forces in Yemen. So at one point they will order them to launch attack against Kaaba take only one drone not like to destroy it just to use that
Starting point is 00:39:02 and they will do that. I'm sure they will not hesitate if they see that they are on the brink of collapse and that they could not keep things help things together I believe that they will do it
Starting point is 00:39:13 And I'm sure, but if they do it, this means that they have attacked our holy place. This means there is another reason to launch a major attack against Saudi Arabia to defend our holy place in Macca and Medina. We are the one who are defending them. We are not the one who threatened those areas. Just imagine we consider Palestine as the third holy place of all Muslim. We are one of the few who tried to defend Palestine, to defend our gods, to defend Gaza. So all Saudi lie about us will try to attack Mecca. It just, I think, is because they are planning to do so
Starting point is 00:39:50 with the Zionists and with the United States because they want to set the entire region on fire and on sectarian violent. Hussein Albuquerqueh, thank you so much for joining us. I think it's probably fair to say that if there is an attack on Mecca, it would be suicidal and absurd for it to come from Ansarallah. So I hope that the Saudi-backed force
Starting point is 00:40:12 in Yemen who might be encouraged to do that would recognize that it would be, I don't think anybody would believe it. But anyway, thank you so much for joining us. It's always great to get your perspective. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you. It was great. All right. We'll see you again soon. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello. My gosh. Watch all your your favorite podcasts from start to finish right inside the free IHIR radio app. Get the blood going up. Catch every laugh and eye roll on shows like the Tom Green Farmcast and park the bus. Now with full video.
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Starting point is 00:42:00 I'm Lexi You Want You. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references. occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived at all. I'm not going to get anyone fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business, and I've always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser.
Starting point is 00:42:38 We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are. Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Liar. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really care. Well, President Trump was campaigning in Alaska last night. He set on another trip, set to head off on another trip today, as a sign of how seriously he's taking, midterm threat. Whether it's helping is a different question. He's been storming the country. And now just yesterday, let's put our first element up on the screen. The Fox News power rankings
Starting point is 00:43:22 shifted 18 races towards Democrats in the House of Representatives, Ryan. So some of these probably are not entirely surprising to you. Anything in this list standing out, though? We're looking at First District of Wisconsin. Pennsylvania 7. Remind me, is that 2018 Connor Lamb? No, that is Bob Brooks, the Bernie-backed firefighter. That's right. So that's Allentown, Pennsylvania. That's your hood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:51 So Bernie dominating Allentown, it means it's over, like time for capital to surrender. And they changed it from toss-up to lean D. Yeah. So for that race to not be a toss-up is, or even likely. This was a race where Republicans spent huge amounts trying to get a complete lunatic nominated as the Democrat. they lost, then they got a Republican to run as a green party guy, but he got kicked off the ballot for signature problems and fraud, basically. Like, you're not a green. You're like, you're not a green. Like, you're a Republican. You have to be a green. Right. So, not looking good for that one. That's
Starting point is 00:44:34 always been a swing district. But it's, it's actually kind of the quintessential district that should make Republicans nervous if it's in polling starting to look more like a lean than a toss-up. Big Hispanic vote in Allentown, plus then it's very, you know, very suburban and rural. Now, another stunning bit of polling data, our next element we can toss up on the screen from Newsweek. Trump's approval rating is below water in every single state. No pink. No pink. Rachel Bikoffer pointed this out.
Starting point is 00:45:06 If you look at this map, she said there isn't a single state where Trump is. has a positive approval rating as of today the 12th. And this gets back into obviously whether or not the question of whether or not him barnstorming the country is helping Republicans or not. Now, you listened, my understanding, Ryan, is that you listened to the Alaska rally last night. And he continues to dangle the prospect of $5,000. His whole speech, he's, now, it's a free offer because nobody thinks he's going to hold the house.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Right. But his whole speech, he's like, $5,000. $5,000 in your pocket. And he's now putting strings on it. He's like, you have to spend it in the United States. He's like, I don't want you to say, darling, we're going to China with our $5,000. You have to spend it here. Like his press secretary?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yes. Right. Yes, like his press secretary. So yes, he's still promising the $5,000. You have to go watch this and confirm it. But I swear, he said, at the beginning of the speech, he told this anecdote about driving through Iowa at the very beginning of his term. looking up in gas was $1.95 a gallon. He's like, and then I went to war with Iran.
Starting point is 00:46:15 He's like, why are you telling that story? Meanwhile, there's still like people who are saying it wasn't Iran. The gas prices, it's all Ukraine. Democrats, we'll get to that in a second. It's Democrats. It's Democrats. Environmental regulations. We'll get to that in a second.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Indeed, you're going to want to stick around for this particular soundbite. Now, another interesting bit of data here, our next element from the economist in UGov polling, the Associated Press put this together. voters who live near, I'm sorry, the economist did, voters who live near data centers are swinging hard towards Democrats, according to this polling with UGov. And I mean, if you look at it, it's pretty clear. That's a pretty clear trend. And it looked like, it looks like it really started pulling apart late last year. And then just, it's not even close anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's a pretty, pretty convincing graphic that data center location in this midterm election is pushing. people towards Democrats. And again, that even takes us to the question of how much Trump is helping because Trump owns that issue so hard, which is why it's a problem for Republicans, even like a Tom Tiffany, Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate who was running against David Crowley. Leftists were supporting Francesca Hong in no small part because Crowley was open to data centers. Yes. And Crowley, by the way, may end up blowing a Wisconsin trifecta. It's not impossible. By refusing to take a stand on data centers.
Starting point is 00:47:40 This is the problem, this is the electability problem that you get with corporate Democrats, that they are so tied to the special interest that got them where they are that they can't do the obviously popular thing. Absolutely. And the whole reason they refused to go with Francesca was they said she's too crazy. She's not electable. And then they put in a guy who has a radical extreme position on like a 90-10 issue, data centers. and he's on the 10% side. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And he might tank it for Democrats. Yeah, it's a close race. I mean, he's probably still feeling okay about it, but data centers are a huge. And part of the problem that Tom Tiffany might not be able to capitalize it is obviously because the president of the United States owns it and is going around the country
Starting point is 00:48:21 talking about super intelligence. Gets worse for Republicans. Let's put this Jake Sherman Post from Punch Bull up on the screen. Congressional Leadership Fund has now cut bait in three districts. The House Republican leadership has been telling members
Starting point is 00:48:35 and the public that they are poised to expand their majority in November. They're welcome to tell the public that nobody believes it. They cut bait in New Jersey 7 and Iowa 1. Tom Keene, the guy who hospitalized himself. I forgot about Tom Keene's hospitalization spell. Yes, that race. And then Ohio 1 and Michigan 8. So we've been covering the moving of the money around.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And that is really the tell. Right. So that, because that comes with their internal polling as well. And so we don't have access to the internal polling across the board. Something leaks every once in a while, but mostly we don't have access to it. So one of the best ways to read the tea leaves is to see if the public polling is matching where the money is being moved. And in this case, yes. And that was the morning. And so throughout the day, you just had one after another.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So you can put up B6. So then they're like, oh, actually, sorry, go to B5. B5. So, like, House Republicans are abandoning more districts. what another another Nevada district well another anyway they put up a B6 that was the fifth one
Starting point is 00:49:44 and this there was a sixth district that they're abandoning California and and then this was not the last one like we couldn't keep up as we're putting the show together we couldn't even keep up with it they were abandoning so many different house races
Starting point is 00:49:59 sounds like North Carolina and Georgia they're moving money out of those states on the Senate side, they're basically giving up on those races and moving the money to Kansas, Iowa, and Nebraska. They're dropping, I think, what, four or five million for now in Nebraska to try to beat Dan Osborne and, yeah, trying to show up Kansas. Huge crypto influx in Nebraska announced yesterday. There was a Politico report on crypto coming in to try and rescue Pete Ricketts.
Starting point is 00:50:30 So we'll see how that works for them. If you're a special interest like crypto, how annoying is it to have to have to? to rescue a billionaire's kid. Like, Ricketts' dad founded Ameritrade and owns like the Cubs and, you know, half the country. I feel like if you're crypto, you're like, you pay for that. You're a billionaire, but no, nothing's free. Well, but they want the favor, right?
Starting point is 00:50:52 They want him to be indebted to them. Yeah, but you think there should be like a class allegiance. But no, no, you even got to buy the billionaires. It's outrageous. So Andy Harris represents the... Eastern Shore of Maryland, would be my congressman, because he's my mom's congressman, he's a tea party guy, don't want to waste any time getting into old stories about Andy Harris. He's quite something. At a debate last night, this was the crowd reaction to his suggestion that is actually
Starting point is 00:51:26 Democrats' environmental regulations that are causing gas prices to go up. Let's play B-8. The facts are the diesel prices have gone up. There's no question about it. Why has it gone up? Because the Democrats, environmental regulations, have not... Ma'am, I got to tell you. This is the problem. You all say you believe there's a First Amendment,
Starting point is 00:51:57 but only if you agree with you. You should let me finish the sentence, ma'am. You are rude. Oh, my gosh. Stop violating Andy Harris' First Amendment rights. How dare you? It's always funny to see. Someone who was brought in on the Tea Party wave, swept on the Tea Party wave,
Starting point is 00:52:17 face the exact fire that the Tea Party wave brought in against Democrats. Like how many Democrats lost their seats in 2010 after town hall meetings that look exactly like that? You're going to be able to keep your plan. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Just getting shouted down by the audience. And one quick, Andy Harris story. He ran against the public option. and when he won in 2010, he's a doctor.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So he wins in November. His whole campaign was against the Democrat who had at some point said he was okay with a public option. Those whole campaigns against the public option. Wins in November. He shows up in November, in Washington, at orientation, and he asks the administrators of Congress
Starting point is 00:53:03 how he can get health insurance between November and January when he's sworn in. They tell him you don't get health insurance until January. He's like, yeah, but I need it now. Isn't there some type of government option that I can buy into? And they're like, no, no, there is not. And then they leaked that he even asked that.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Of course. You ran your entire campaign about there not being that. Of course. So hopefully we're seeing the end of Andy Harris regime on the eastern shore of Maryland. He's an amusing Congress. He sure is. His big thing when he was a state legislator was going after the University of Maryland because they they had they like screened some like softcore porn or something. And so he tried to defund the University of Maryland. Yeah, you would staggart and I stand with Andy Harris. I'm sure you do. So there were debates also in Georgia
Starting point is 00:54:00 and Maine do a little bit of that. Troy Jackson finally bringing some fire against Susan To the extent Troy Jackson has fire. This is fire for Troy Jackson. Let's go to B7. Senator Collins talks about how she voted nine times against the war. I know that very well. After it was too late, she voted five times to make it happen. And voting against it, I mean, she's the chair of appropriations. If she wants to stop the war, she can cut the funding off for the war. But she's not willing to do that because Donald Trump wants this. And that's what is going to happen. 80% of our fuel is higher this year than last year. I mean, there's no way around that.
Starting point is 00:54:42 She wants to talk about electric rates. You asked about fuel. Electric rates are 80% fuel is 80% higher this year because of the Iran War. And again, you can go and read the public advocate. She likes to bring up the public advocate. You can go and read the public advocate's report from last week that said that the reason why Maine's electric rates were higher is because of natural gas. the Ukraine War, the way that we get off of this boom and bust of wars and things like that
Starting point is 00:55:09 is to go with the Northern Main transmission line, get wind energy that is less costly and is in deep supply, and we won't have to worry about every time someone like Donald Trump wants to start a war that we'll be paying higher fuel prices. That's the way that we're going to lower our energy costs, not by building a pipeline across the United States for Keystone. Kind of painful to try to watch Troy shot to finish paragraphs, but he did. He did. He hit her throughout the entire debate on the Iran war and on costs. Because right before that, she had said, like, look, yeah, I voted against the war some of the times, but the votes weren't there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He's like, okay, well, that's a good reason that we should have Democrats then. So what good are you? You know, you're the chair of the Appropriations Committee. You're funding the war. How are Republicans feeling about her? Still pretty good? They feel good about her compared to others, because last. time she was down what like eight points and I'm thinking of the RCP average I think she was down
Starting point is 00:56:07 about eight points in a lot of the polling averages and ended up winning by about eight points in them she's up that's what people are hoping for also hoping for just really the polling being off in rural areas that's one of the hopes that people have in Texas as well is that they're just not picking up on and that was the big problem in 2020 with Saraginian is that when pollsters look back on what may have went wrong they thought they were undersampling working class white men in rural areas and so I think people are still hoping, and they probably have some good reason to believe, that pollsters haven't found good ways to correct for that underweighting, but it's such a, 2018 was a bad environment. This feels like an environment that's at least twice as bad for Republicans.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So maybe she can eke out a four point win is the best hope at this point. Democratic establishment should be careful what they wish for. If Troy Jackson loses, I feel like main voters are going to be pushing Grand Platinum. run again. That's a good point. Like, his approval rating in some poll was like over 40 among Democrats. Yeah. And it'll be really high if Troy Jackson loses. People will be like,
Starting point is 00:57:13 well, this guy could have won. Down in Georgia, another, like, just unfair. Like, why are you putting this Mike Collins up against Sean Asap? Ripping him for his daddy being a congressman. Like, going on. One news out of it,
Starting point is 00:57:31 Asaf, definitively said he's not running for president now I don't believe him do not believe him he was so definitive it's going to be tough to come back from it will cost him if he comes back from that
Starting point is 00:57:43 I don't think so because I think the calculation is if you want him to be president you want him to break the promise if you don't want him to be president then you're going to use that against him so there's nobody who would have supported him
Starting point is 00:58:00 who cares about him breaking the promise Anyway, I don't believe him. When he says he's not going to run, I don't believe him. Only Georgia voters are going to know that he broke the promise. And if you're running for... Well, yeah, but like that... Also, they all do this. Susan Collins said she'd run for what, two terms? Ron Johnson.
Starting point is 00:58:15 1910. 1910. No, I guess I've come around to your side. I actually think that's probably correct. But it was a pretty blanket statement. It was. It was straight. So he will have to explain it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It'll take some explaining. Let's take a look at B9 here. Awesome, going in on Mike Collins. neo-Nazi propaganda. Well, how weak a person do you have to be to be unable to stop someone under your own roof from disseminating neo-Nazi propaganda while you run for the Senate? The paper reported it's still going on to this day. How about this, Mike? We can shake hands on it. Will you commit tonight that for the remainder of this campaign, it's just three weeks, Mike, you won't allow any more neo-Nazi propaganda to be produced from your house. Can you make that commitment?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Unfortunately, I'm... No, I deserve that. 30 seconds. 30 seconds, sir. Yes, ma'am. You know what? I'm a little tired of this, John. That's a crazy person in jail right now because of your rhetoric and you threatened my son-in-law and threatened to kill me. Had another threat just yesterday. That's because of you and your rhetoric that you're out there spewing, just vitriol hate. Well, what about you?
Starting point is 00:59:29 you have not denounced, you've not condemned. Give me Reed Hoffman, one of your largest donors out there, one that's been supporting you with over a million dollars. Why don't you denounce that? Why don't you return that money? Thank you. 32nd rebuttal. Mike, if any of these folks were based in my house,
Starting point is 00:59:48 then I'd understand you to ask me to take responsibility for him. What I asked you, Mike, was can you commit for just three weeks to stop the production of Neil and, Nazi propaganda from your home. It's happening. We all know it's happening. Why can't you stop it? Why won't you commit right now to stopping it? All right. 30 seconds. And this is the last. What I'm going to ask you is why don't you denounce Reid Hoffman right now? Why don't you give that money back to Reed Hoffman? The Epstein Files class guy. You can't stop the product of neo-Nazi propaganda from your own house. You don't know people that give
Starting point is 01:00:26 you $20 or $15 or $10. But you know the people that max out to you. You know the people pumping a million dollars into your supermax. So you're going to allow neo-Nazi propaganda to continue to be produced from your home while you run for the U.S. Senate. Is that correct? You're just going to let the neo-Nazi propaganda continue. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:00:47 You put the commercial. Is that right? Make the commitment. Excuse me. In time of the next. No neo-Nazi propaganda. Can you do it? We are going to have to move on, gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Can you do it? Give the money back. We are going to have to move on. No more money. Give the money back. Thank you very much. I just, Ryan, I want to pause on the strategy of the Ossoff campaign and perhaps Ossoff himself to narrow the question to Mike Collins to will you commit for the next
Starting point is 01:01:11 three weeks. Because it's such a specific ask of Collins that sounds to a normal person like the easiest ask in the world. And they know he's going to continue pivoting every single time like he has done consistently. to saying you're putting my family in danger rather than addressing Asaf's question. It is actually a very brilliant campaign strategy. Three weeks.
Starting point is 01:01:35 We can't do three weeks of no neo-Nazi stuff from your basement? But it forces the absurdity of the fact that he can't control the neo-Nazi stuff coming from his own house. And he can't answer the question. He won't answer the question. And then later Asaf said, he's like, Mike, who on your staff suggested that you bring up Epstein? he's like everybody can go and check this when it came to the house floor for a vote on releasing the evidence in the Epstein files you voted against it
Starting point is 01:02:03 what are you thinking bringing up Epstein because otherwise it's a good hit Reed is in the is an Epstein class guy yeah but if you voted to cover up the Epstein files I don't think people want to hear it from you they sure don't they sure don't well should we move on to the new white house press secretary right I think we should let's hurry Plaza Kia makes car buying easy, as easy as driving. The 2026 Kia EV5, quiet, spacious, and you can skip the lines of the gas pump. See how affordable EV ownership can be with the Kia EVV5. Plaza Kia, built by trust, defined by experience, offering a huge selection of new and certified pre-owned kias with competitive pricing. A proud member of the Plaza Auto Group, family owned and operated for 70 years.
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Starting point is 01:03:55 I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. And I've always always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world.
Starting point is 01:04:27 We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are. Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Liar. Listen on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really care. Well, the new White House Press Secretary, Katie Zakaria, did her first briefing yesterday after about three days on the job. She was announced on Friday, and there's a lot of reporting coming out now. Basically what everybody expected, nobody expected this. Everybody expected it would come out that nobody expected this. It sounds a lot like Donald Trump saw Katie Zakaria on TV. She was intentionally blanketing the airwaves, and he thought, all right, let's go with her. some reports that he actually bypassed Susie Wiles.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I don't know how true those reports are, but she had a few days to get ready for a White House briefing. And it was like 9.30 a.m. Tuesday. And she was appointed on Friday. It did not go well. Ryan's original idea was for us to try and play the entire briefing. It was only an awkwardly short 14 minutes and see who could go without laughing first.
Starting point is 01:05:49 If you successfully outlasted, If I had outlasted Ryan, I would have been the winner. I think it would be impossible. And you will see why, as we play some of these. We're about to play one 14th of the briefing. So you're going to hear, maybe even a little longer. Yeah, see how long you could go before breaking. Let's just see one.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Good morning. Good morning. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as the new White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz,
Starting point is 01:06:43 with energy and excitement, never seen before in the history of midterms, thanks to President Trump. just look no further than last night in Youngstown, Ohio, where President Trump delivered another blockbuster rally out on the trail. The arena was overflowing with enthusiasm as thousands came out to support President Trump, as well as special guest Jake Paul and football legend John Gruden. So that was about what the first part of the briefing felt like. It was just a lot of that, a lot of that, a lot of that, a lot of reading off the script, awkwardly making eye contact, almost like a pageant, right? You sort of know you have to read the lines and look up at the camera every certain
Starting point is 01:07:29 interval of time. But brutal, absolutely brutal. But wait, there's more. This was maybe the worst moment. Let's roll the next club. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is completely unacceptable. So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. My husband, is out here. His family and we are very, very protective of celebrating birthdays as a family. So he brought the entire crew out here. Bless him, it's a lot. And we will be moving out here.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Oh, no, oh no, oh no. Not doing any favors to the stereotype of one of the sort of MAGA women who is overly prostrating themselves at the feet of Donald Trump by mixing up your husband and your president in your first briefing. That one, that one hurts. And so I'm probably not going to commit this press secretary's name to memory, but she's a fox person? Like, why is she in our lives right now?
Starting point is 01:08:37 Not even just a Foxx person. She's someone who did, I think, Fox, CNN, Newsmax, kind of a combo. And there was one report that she was doing it intentionally timed with the president's truth social schedule. when she thought he would be watching, she would accept... She's doing like 4 and 5 a.m.? That's a good point, actually,
Starting point is 01:08:59 because he seems to be up at 4 or 5 a.m., but also 1 a.m., so, yeah, it's hard to say. Maybe she's just always on. But yeah, she would do kind of a lot of those networks that she thought he would be paying attention to. One more, here's her trying to wrap the briefing. So she gave...
Starting point is 01:09:14 She read from the binder, basically, the president's accomplishments, according to her, and then took three questions. She went to three reports. She did make news. She's like, yeah, we're firing Gilfoyle. She sure did. We'll get to that in just a moment. She took questions from Breitbart. She took questions from Fox News, Peter Deucy, and Daily Mail.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Even her effort or her attempt to go to the questions was weird because everybody was trying to ask her questions. She wanted to answer the questions, but she knew she had three people that she was supposed to go to. So it was weird. Here's her trying to leave the briefing, C-3. The president speak with the ambassador to Gilfoyle. To the question on, the president will be back on Thursday. that's what I will answer. I'll leave it there.
Starting point is 01:09:54 He will answer those questions out and bring up. Okay. All right. So then they did move out to the new helipad, and she got this question. Actually, the president got this question. She may have gotten herself into serious hot water with her answer here. Like, actually, very sad. And that's where this entire segment, we're going to put some meat on the bones of all the fun we're having here.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Take a listen. President Trump is going to get asked about whether or not she's actually an attorney. It's kind of hard to hear, but here's the club. You said she's an attorney. Where did she pass the bar exam? Which state? What did she tell him? Where did you pass the bar exam? Mr. President.
Starting point is 01:10:39 This is a serious problem. What she said was when she moved to China. Like what state did you pass the bar exam? Yeah, when she moved to China. When she moved to China. which doesn't make a lot of sense because the Chinese bar, as you might expect, is very difficult and I believe not actually even open to foreigners. And probably in Chinese. And so Jud Legum's been all over the questions about her record.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And he said there's zero chance, Zakaria, took the Chinese bar exam. The next element we could put this on the screen. She doesn't speak Chinese and only Chinese citizens can take it. She was not a Chinese citizen. She did, however, moved to China when her husband worked in private equity. there. And she worked for a major law firm in China that if you're, as anybody would expect, if you're a major law firm in China has all kinds of connections with the CCP. And so that is now coming back with all of these questions for Zakaria. I'm reading from the Washington Post here
Starting point is 01:11:33 that notes the White House and Tuesday scrambled to answer questions about the legal credentials of President Donald Trump's new press secretary, who made a brief and halting debut in the briefing room and later said she had passed a bar exam in China, a country where non-citizens aren't allowed to take the bar exam or practice in courtrooms, Trump called Zakaria an attorney in his Friday announcement. That's an official White House announcement, even though it's like untrue social of her appointment. And her LinkedIn profile says she served as general counsel for Fix California, which is a nonprofit founded by Rick Rennell, asked Tuesday where she had been admitted to the bar, Zakaria said China, not a U.S. state or the district of Columbia, where one would need to have been
Starting point is 01:12:07 admitted to practice law in the United States. So again, she was given the title, General Counsel for Fix California, which I both. believe is a nonprofit. Yeah, the post says it's a nonprofit. So it's this conservative nonprofit to turn around California. And she was apparently representing herself as general counsel. Typically, I've known general counsels that many nonprofits, Ryan, you probably have as well. That means you are doing legal work. If you are not barred and you are representing yourself as somebody who's doing legal work, that is a problem. She on Kairons was represented as an attorney. I went and yesterday saw Fox News Kiron where she was represented as an attorney. So not only now,
Starting point is 01:12:44 are there now questions about the fact she worked from this major CCP-connected Chinese law firm, but there are also questions, and we could piece apart how substantive those attacks on anyone would be. But now there are questions about whether or not she, A, lied in front of the president and lied to the press by saying she passed a bar when she was in China. And she doesn't appear to have ever passed a bar. And second of all, whether she was misrepresenting herself as an barred attorney without ever passing the bar. exam. Now, she could defend herself by saying that her answer about China was totally incoherent. Or she didn't hear the question. And that there has to be some coherence for something to be a lie.
Starting point is 01:13:24 But yes, in California, and actually I think everywhere in the country, if you hold yourself out as a general counsel, even if you don't practice law as the general counsel, just by holding yourself out as a general counsel, you have to be licensed somewhere. Right. So you can't disbar this lady since you're just not barred anywhere. Right. Good Lord. It's a big problem for her because we're about to talk about Kimberly Gilfoyle. Trump is very sensitive about people making him look bad. And there she may have flat out lied. She heard that question.
Starting point is 01:13:59 She said she passed the bar when she was in China. There's really no other way. I mean, you can try to say you couldn't hear the question while because you're outside and at the helicopter. But she pretty clearly was responding to that question. And that's why what else would she have meant by when I was in China? So now it looks like she lied in front of the president, lied to the president, to the press, in addition to the bad performance. I just want to also add the leaks.
Starting point is 01:14:23 This is a really bad sign for her. The leaks are already starting. So I pulled some of the leaks from people that are close to the White House or are actually working in the White House. So CNN had a story where one person called it brutal. CNN characterized what it was hearing from sources as saying it was unusual, awkward, stilted, and at times uncomfortable. One Trump advisor said, quote, she should have been doing murder. boards for two weeks before going up there. The best thing she did was break the news. We're going to get to in a second that Kimberly Guilfoyle was gone. A White House official said, why did they put her
Starting point is 01:14:51 out there so quickly? Literally zero reason to put her out there on her second day. I'm prepared. Another one said, no question, we're all missing Caroline. Another said, you either got it or don't. This is to Politico, and she don't got it. I think the press and the admin were on the same page today in terms of missing Caroline. Another one to MS now said, getting behind the podium is tough, but she got off on the wrong foot. She needs to get much better fast. Otherwise, she'll break Garamucci's record. This is a White House official. Her first impression is leaving staff without confidence in her abilities.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Not really what you want after your first press briefing, but also, again, a sign. The press secretary, at least from Caroline Levitt's example that she's set for this White House, is in charge of the White House press operations. You have a communications director, Stephen Chung, but the press secretary does strategy. They're not just a spokesperson typically. Put Chung up there. Hell yes. That's what we all want.
Starting point is 01:15:41 At the end of the day, that's what everybody is gunning for. Nobody is going to be good until you're Stephen Chung. But actually, the fact that White House staff is already leaking suggests, yes, they have no confidence in her, but also that her ability to wield power and have some control over the White House press operation is already significantly damaged. Sounds like she didn't even know there was an operation. This is what Trump deserves, though, for passing over Scott Jennings. Scott has been prostrating himself before the president for years. and all he wants is to be press secretary.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And he dissed him like so? I think he saw, I think what they did is they saw your debate was Scott Jennings on afterpartner. They were like, no, he can't stand up to Ryan Grimm. That crushed him. So anyway, good luck to her, I guess. Good luck to her. We will be eagerly awaiting the next briefing if there is one.
Starting point is 01:16:38 But yeah, so she announced during the press briefing that Kimberly Gilfoy was being pushed out. We can move on to this section. Announced it in the most painfully awkward way. She got the question and gave like a one sentence response and then just smiled and nodded. She's been asked to resign. So Gilfoyle I put up C6 here was the ambassador agrees. This is her, you can pause that and read it if you want. This is a very long statement about how it was the honor of her lifetime to be the ambassador to Greece. So apparently, Emily, you correct me if I'm wrong here. So she's dating Donald Trump Jr.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We'll get into that in a second from Trump. That wasn't going well. The boy needed a way out, and Trump did his son a solid and named her to be ambassador to Greece, which... It's a good dad. That's a good dad.
Starting point is 01:17:28 You know, you gotta... And then set his boy up with like a multi-billion dollar grift. But, meanwhile, who doesn't get cut in on that grift, gilfoil. So I have some say, sympathy for her.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Gets cut in on her own grip. Her ex-boyfriend, you know, they're living high on the hog. Ex-boyfriend is stealing billions of dollars around the world. She's not living any higher on the hog just because they broke up, but those Amex bills keep coming. Yep. And so she reaches out to a donor as she's preparing to be nominated or preparing to be confirmed Ambassador and tells the donor, hey, good news. I found a way that you can just sneak me money.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Doesn't have to be a paper bag. Just pay off my, throw 100K into my Amex bill. Put up C8. It looks like she also figured out that somebody could just throw 250K straight at her G-series car loan. Yeah. And so this is what we know about. That's 350K.
Starting point is 01:18:37 This is Daily Mail. Yes. Daily Mail reporting. She's solicited a $250,000 car loan payment from several wealthy Greek businessmen. I don't know. Do wealthy Greek businessmen have $250K? I don't think so. I was going to say something. Maybe they got 25K? I don't know, about $250,000. No offense to Greece. But, okay, so Trump gets asked about that and gives a pretty funny response. Let's roll C-7. President, on Kimberly Gilfoyle, she was almost a member of your family. How surprised were you to learn about these allegations? No, she wasn't a member of my family.
Starting point is 01:19:12 She, I guess, dated my son a long time ago, but she wasn't. No, she went to Greece. She was doing a good job, but we didn't like what we were reading. We didn't like what we were reading. Dated my son a long time ago. Someone was, they broke up in 2024. Someone was circulating Trump quote around the time he named her ambassador to Greece, just lavishing Kimberly Guilfoyle and praise.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Because at the time, they were clearly trying to smooth things over. With Kimberly Gilfoyle and he was saying like she's the best. We love her so much. And she dated my son a long time ago. She should have stayed with Gavin Newsom. She could be first lady. That would be more likely at this point. Former, did they, were they married or were they just dating? They were married. Yeah, they were married. He famously cheated on her. Mrs. Gavin Newsome. Yeah. No, he famously was unfaithful to Kimberly Gillfoil. And so anyway, rough one. If you can't trust Gavin Newsom to be faithful, who can you trust? We can't trust anybody anymore. Yeah. So I just want to say the Tucker had a good rundown in his newsletter this morning of some of the reports. He says the Wall Street Journal reported last week that Gilfoyle flamboyantly used her position and connection to the president as vessels for personal enrichment, accepting gifts and services in exchange for access to the Trump administration.
Starting point is 01:20:28 So that's an important part of this as well. In one instance, she allegedly begged a top Trump donor to pay her 100K, AMX bill. And the screenshots show her pleading, quote, honey, please, Sager and Crystal. And we've all at this at this point, people are familiar with it. She then, we now have a report, tried to claim those text messages were AI. She tried to tell the White House that those text messages were AI. That is according to a new report from the Wall Street Journal. She really tried to say that it was AI. And hilariously, that announcement you just saw about her saying she was stepping down, Will Chamberlain asked Pangram if it was AI. Of course. Pangram response. We believe that this
Starting point is 01:21:08 entire text is AI. Of course it was. She's never written that much. Written all of that together. AI all the way down. Meanwhile, and I have actual sympathy for her, because if she ends up being like the only person going to jail over any of this, it's so absurd. 100%.
Starting point is 01:21:22 They're all super corrupt. Bloomberg reported this yesterday that the CFTC, Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which investigates kind of insider trading in the commodities world, was probing the suspicious oil trades. So you'd have somebody who'd go. in and buy the billions, buying the S&P and selling oil, and then 15 minutes later, Trump comes out with some announcement about the Iran War, and they make an absolute fortune. Like, you could pay off Gilfoyles' MX for a century with the amount of money that they were making in five minutes. So
Starting point is 01:21:58 CFTC is probing this, and they get told by somebody in the Trump administration, eh, no need to look into that anymore. Don't worry about that. We're going to go. We're going to on that one. Yep. Well, news also that they're looking into the, the FTC is looking into Fanduel and Draft Kings. And so we'll see if something similar happens there, because I guarantee you they're now pouring all kinds of money. Well, they have been already. We've got their best men on it working in shifts. We will see. We will see. You know soccer's going to follow that one very closely, but you're right, the audacity of the Trump administration. If you're Kimberly Guilfoy, like the audacity of you people to make as much money as you have off of this
Starting point is 01:22:37 administration, then to throw me under the brass. for trying to get in. Not granted. Also, it's embarrassing. Like, you're texting people to pay off your Amex bill. Like, at least you can't set up a crypto company. Just do it through crypto. Like, have some dignity, ma'am.
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