Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 10/7/25: Massive AI Bubble, China Runs Circles Around US, Bari Weiss CBS Takeover, Venezuela War

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Krystal and Saagar discuss the massive AI bubble, China runs circles around US, Bari Weiss new CBS head, Trump gears for Venezuela war.   To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Barry Weiss has officially been installed over at CBS as editor-in-chief. We'll take a look at what she is saying and what some of the journalists at CBS are feeling about that. It sure looks like we are headed to full regime change war in Venezuela. Some incredibly troubling reports that aren't getting nearly enough attention. We'll dig into all of that. Trump is floating, hey, maybe I will pardon, Galane Maxwell. This comes as the Supreme Court has declined to hear her appeal, so a lot to get to there. Tim Dillon speaking out against the National Guard deployments in a variety of cities, and I'm taking a look at what exactly happened with this shooting and immigration agent

shot a Chicago resident. The government story is falling apart. There's apparently body cam footage that directly refutes what they were claiming happened. So I'm going to do a monologue breaking down everything. thing that we know about what transpired there. There we go. We had, unfortunately, to drop the Mark Sanchez story, but we will eventually get to it. Don't worry. We did address it. It was a good plug for our premium subs.

That's true. We did address it in the AMA yesterday. So if you want to hear what Sagar thinks about the whole Mark Sanchez situation when he is, which he is slightly obsessed with, you have to be a premium subscriber. I just can't, I can't get enough of it. All right. So thank you to everybody, breaking points.com. As Crystal said, we want to hear our Mark Sanchez thoughts. And much more, you can go ahead and sign. for that. If you can't afford it, no worries. Just please go ahead and hit subscribe to this YouTube video. And if you are listening to this on a podcast, please send your favorite episode to a friend and or rate us five stars. It really does help other people find the show.

And one more thing before we jump in. We got word from Ryan this morning. Alex Colston, that drop site journalist that was part of the Sumud Flotilla has been freed to Jordan along with most, but not all, of the American citizens who were on board that boat. So glad to hear that he at least is safely out of Israel. That's right. And I hope to get Alex on the show soon. We'll hear about some of his ordeal and what he went through. So let's go ahead and start with AI. Let's go ahead and put this up here on the screen. I thought this was a fantastic piece came out in the Financial Times. Roshir Sharmae, somebody I really respect. And what he wrote about here is, quote, America is now one big bet on AI. It is seen as the magic fix for every

threat to the U.S. economy. And I'm going to read what I think are the most troubling paragraphs. Quote, lately, optimism has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The hundreds of billions of dollars investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40% of U.S. GDP growth this year. Some analysts believe that estimate does not even fully capture AI spend. Real share could be higher. AI companies have accounted for 80% of gains in U.S. stock so far in 2025. That is helping to fund and drive U.S. growth as the AI-driven stock market draws

in money from all over the world and feeds a boom in consumer spending by the rich. Since the wealthiest 10% of the population owns 85% of stocks, they enjoy the largest wealth effect when they go up. Little wonder then. Latest data shows American consumer economy rests largely on spending by the wealthy. The top 10% of earners account for half of consumer spending, the highest share on record since that data began. Without all the excitement around AI, the U.S. economy would be stalling out, given the multiple threats. I thought that that was such an important, just like succinct way of putting it together. He says, America has become one big bet on AI. Outside of the AI plays, even European stock markets have been outperforming

the U.S. this decade. And now that gap is starting to spread. So far in 2025, every major sector from utilities, industrials, health care, and banks has fared better in the rest of the world than in the U.S. So Silicon Valley Parlance is like in the world of bits versus the world of atoms, as in like something in cyberspace, some versus the real world. AI is honestly a bit of both, right, because you have to make chips, you have to bring data centers. But fundamentally, the profit and everything else is a power law of exponential growth for stocks of a lot of the people who are involved. We all know it is not in any way distributed across the economy. And I thought that that summed it up in a way that should honestly be terrifying because something a friend of mine recently said to me was if

Trump did not have this AI boom, the tariff story would be a totally different conversation. I mean, it's still bubbling underneath, right? We talked about the farmer yesterday, soybeans. If you work in the, quote, normal economy and all of that, of course, you're going to feel it. I was just taking a look yesterday at the equal weight S&P 500 versus the weighted S&P 500. It's unweighted. It's crazy.

If you just take like the equal weight versus, you know, the NVIDIA. heavy S&P and all these others, the gap in growth is unbelievable. And I think what it underscores is the fundamental danger of where we are in a variety of ways from economic policy, because it's emboldening actually Trump on tariffs because he thinks this is tariffs. He doesn't understand it's all like data center growth, AI growth, Google and everybody kind of spending to the bottom. But the second is, and look, I know bubble talk is always easy and you can, Nobody knows when to call it, but at the very least, even if it's not a bubble or any of that, this is a huge risk.

Like any portfolio, if the U.S., GDP is a portfolio, to say that 40% of your growth comes from a single sector, from not even just technology, from a single sector of that sector, you should be very afraid. And when 80% of the gains, which all of us rely on, it'll say if you're in retirement, your 401k, that number's got to go up. And it's only going up from one place, which means it can go down from one place, too. a single, you know, we talked about deepseek style yesterday, dot com, anything like that, 2007, I mean, we all remember, right, it can go south very quickly, and then it can go south for a long time. And I can guarantee you, while the gains may only go to the top 10%, that the losses

will go to 100%. That's the way that works. Yeah, that's the way that works. Well, and it feels like we're sort of like damned if it works out well and damned if it doesn't work out. So obviously, if it, if it ends up just to be like sort of worthless AI slop and the, you know, all the grand vision of what AI could be doesn't come to fruition, then you're going to have this massive crash. Our economy, like the perception of our economy is so tied up with these dramatic stock market gains, you know, divorced from the reality of the real economy that impacts most people day to day, that that collapse would be absolutely devastating. And like you said, would have massive effects for everybody, whether you're heavily invested

in the stock market or not. If the promise of AI does come to fruition, well, then you've got mass job loss and a need to completely rewrite the social contract. So that seems like, you know, do you guys feel like the country's in a place where we could all get together and have a unifying discussion about what a new social contract might look like? Because I sure don't feel like we're living in that country. So that's why the landscape is so incredibly terrifying. And, you know, I just, I feel like there is such, this has been so invisibleized. It's something that's bubbling below the surface, but there is so little attention being paid by the media to this incredibly massive looming potential problem.

And our economy, when they say that it's just one big bet on AI, like policymakers are just sort of like using AI as a bucket catch-all for any sort of problem that they see in the economy. So if they're worried about the debt and the depths of the, oh, you know, once we get AI, like, that's going to reduce costs. We're going to be able to figure it out. Or if they're worried about sticky inflation, well, AI is going to increase productivity, so we don't have to worry about that. Every problem, we're falling behind in terms of, like, research and development, we're not what we used to be in terms of being the technological juggernaut. Oh, AI, I'll fix that as well.

Like, it's this incredible wishcasting placed on this technology, which is unproven at this point at best, and which has not. demonstrated, you know, the basic ability even to be profitable at any of these companies. What also scares me is if I take a look at that piece and I say that every sector from utility to industrial to health care to banks is faring in the rest of the world in the U.S., what happens if we get into a serious war? Look at Russia. You think they have AI in Russia? Oh, yeah. You know what they have? Defense industrial base, a shitload of oil. That's what matters. That's the actual thing that matters. That's how you have GDP growth, even when the entire world is going to cut you off. I mean, yes, China has an AI sector. They still have an unbelievable

industrial sector, so many different potentials that are coming out in the real world. That's actually manufacturing, building products on top of financialization, which, if you read about how they conceive of the economy, they think that compounding stock growth is bad for the elite and divorces you from the real world. This is a direct line from Xi Jinping. He said, hey, stocks, they don't need to grow that much. We're not into that. We're into the world of the real. That's what we focus on. And that's how we got here. This is very, very scary stuff. Also, we talked a few days ago. I was with Ryan. Derek Thompson, shout out, did a fantastic interview. And what he said, actually, is that because the only growth right now in the U.S. economy

is coming from AI, it means that all private investment is flowing in that direction, which is directly then at the exit. It's zero-sum game, right? There's only a certain amount of money. Well, that amount of money is only going to go where? To the AI, where the most compounding effects. So that means that, let's say your private equity giant or something like VC, anything, what you're going to invest in is where you're going to get the most return on your capital. Of course, that's your job. Well, that also means, though, that some guy who's running a construction firm, let's say he's built it to a $100 million company, he wants to take it to a $2 billion company. Nobody's investing in that. Because the margins are not going to be the same as some

data center stuff. I was reading this morning, let's go ahead and put A3, please, up on the screen. This is OpenAI AMD deal. So I was reading about this. All right. So what happens is, is OpenAI and AMD have now, quote, announced a massive computing deal. New phase of the AI boom. The five-year agreement will challenge NVIDia's market dominance and gives OpenAI 10% of AMD if it hits milestones for chip deployment. So the way that this is structured, though, is so crazy. So basically, what happened is AMD was like, hey, Open AI was like, we want X amount of chips. AMD goes cool. Give us $78 billion. And then, they say, well, how would you like to pay? I'm reading this from Matt Levine. He kind of writes up a script. Well, we were thinking we would announce a deal and that will just add $78 billion to the value of your company. That should cover it. And A&D is like, oh, you know, they go, you still have to pay. And they go, why? And they go, okay, why don't we pay you cash for the value of the chips? And then you have to give us that back in stock. And then when we announce the deal,

the stock will go up and we'll get our $78 billion back. AMD goes, yeah, sure, let's do that. And so basically what happened is they gave them stock worth $35 billion. They took some cash, but then the value of the stock increased so much. It basically covered the cost of the cash that was put in. So it's a complete circular game, and they just did this with NVIDIA. I watched the same thing happen where NVIDia is like, where's $150 billion, and then the value of the stock goes more than $150 billion. Where is the reality?

Does this have anything to do with cash flow? No, it's just literally all expectations. And that's what's really scary about it. So put A2 up on the screen, just to underscore what you were talking about. There's a new Senate Democratic report. They said AI could erase some, quote, 100 million U.S. jobs, 89% of fast food, 64% of accounting, 47% of trucking all over the next 10 years. Keep in mind, trucking in particular is what worries me.

Because it's like one of the best ways for people who don't have anything more than a high school diploma to actually make some six-figure income. And it's one of those where, look, you know, I'm not a Luddite, I'm not saying that all automation or anything is bad, but you obviously need to think about the disruptive effect of your economy. The promise is always, oh, well, that'll create so much wealth that they'll figure out something else. Oh, we used to have, you know, people before the alarm clock, people would come and throw something at your window, but, you know, things, you guys think I'm joking, these are the actual things the libertarians say. I'm not, like, wrong in a sense, but I'm like, yeah, I don't know, it seems a little different, you know? It just seems a little bit different, and they're like, oh, we used to have horsekeepers when we all went around in ponies, but then the car opened up America. I'm like, it doesn't seem the same. It doesn't seem the same. That's just me. That's me. You can decide whether you think it is one to one. Just to hold on that, because this is an argument that people genuinely make. And it's a, you know, it's a reasonable one. You look at like the past and you're like, oh, there were all these concerns about the industrial revolution and all these concerns about, you know, about the car, the automobile and all this, you know, technological displacement in the past. up that there was a period of transition and then there were new jobs that were opened up and it was all okay. So it's going to, we're going to project from the past to the future and say it's all

going to be okay. One of the things that is different is like if we just use the example of the automobile, well, the automobile was replacing horses. AI is meant to replace humans. That's what's different. Like this is not a technology to supplement human labor by and large. This, if you listen to what the creators themselves say, this is a tech that is meant to replace you. Just go out and look at, I mean, just as one, like, you know, example here, hypocryful example potentially, this AI actress who, you know, who they design this, like, teen girl AI actress that apparently has agents lining up to, you know, to work with her in major studios or interested in her or whatever.

Like, for capitalist, if you don't have someone who's going to, you know, complain and to go to the bathroom and is going to get sick and going to have kids and have to deal with their kids and going to unionize or whatever, like not having to deal with that. They're like, yes, great. Like, that is their goal. And that's what makes the potential job displacement here, I think, so much different than what we've seen in the past and why you should take very seriously these sorts of numbers about the number of jobs that AI could displace.

And again, so, you know, that's if things go quite. quote unquote, well, and AI lives up to its promise. If it doesn't live up to its promise, then we have this gigantic bubble and all of these billions, probably trillions of dollars that have been speculated on AI that is going to, you know, lead to some sort of a collapse. So it's such an incredibly perilous situation. Right. And that's before we even get to, like, you know, the immediate resource taxation of AI

development. There's this article in the Wall Street Journal about Elon Musk's development outside of Memphis. We can put A3 up on the screen here. And, you know, this, of course, they locate this gigantic data center. I think this is the one that it calls like the Colossus, yeah, the Colossus 2 data center. Of course, it's located very close to these poor black communities in Memphis. The residents there have complained about the noise. They've complained about they feel that there are toxins that in the air since this thing started to go up. And you have reports across the country. This is actually something I'm worried about of wells going dry because the AI

centers use so much water. Of course, we've been really trying to focus here on the way that electricity prices are already going up in our home state of Virginia. 40% of energy generation already going to AI data centers. In North Carolina, they're passing, they pass legislation to pass some of the costs from AI data center electricity onto consumers so that you are bearing the cost for this, even though you may not want it whatsoever. So, um, you know, the, the resource drain here entailed in these things is just, like, you can't even wrap your head around it. The amount of electricity that these things require is equivalent to like large cities. It's absolutely insane. Let me just underscore that. Yeah. Labor crews hired by

must XAI were excavating power equipment on site, preparing to build a new plant capable of generating over a gigawatt of electricity, which was enough to power 800,000, homes, but that just shows you that you're going to need enough power for 800,000 in the city of Memphis, and that's how much that they're already planning before they even have to draw from the grid. I actually think that types of investment like this need to be a municipal demand. So this is where I've gotten a lot of pushback from a lot of these AI people who are like, you shouldn't be advocating for censorship on the grid, you should be advocating for more power.

I'm like, where have you been, bro? I'm the biggest nuclear guy that there is. Shut, you know, shut up. But if that's the case, then you people, if you're going to make all this money, then you need to invest massively in it should be a municipal demand. If you come in, what's your power projection? You're building a power plant that is going to, at the very least, take care of some 75% to 80% of that. And so there's going to be some sort of tax levied to make sure that all of this extra electricity

that you're demanding is going into, let's say, new. energy project, whatever. More oil and gas. I don't care where it comes from. It just needs to make sure that it's not being offset on the consumer. Because the alternative is that right now, they're pretending to invest in some of this power generation. But as we all know, guys, power projects take years to come online. It takes some six, seven years to make a new nuclear reactor site. That's even if you get the permits, which none of them have ever materialized more recently. So in the interim, what's going to happen? I have read that in some municipalities, there is an increased data center-specific 267% electricity bill to people, to consumers,

267%. If you're on a fixed income or if you are a suburban household, that is devastating to your monthly nut. I mean, just think about that. It's like gas price, for example, if there was a 267% increase there, you have to pay it. I mean, you can only cut so much whenever it comes to turning the lights off or any of that. That's not going to do very much when you have such a massive increase, that is what worries me the most. And actually, the politically, things are going in the opposite direction, where, in fact, the state legislators are all getting paid off by Amazon and Google and all these other people and VDIA and they're like, oh, it's going to create, you know, 10,000 new jobs.

I'm like, yeah, construction jobs in the interim. Great. I don't bemoan that. I think it's fine. But how is that going to roll into the rest of the economy? What are those types of jobs? Are they actually going to be distributed? because it seems to me that the absolute vast majority of the profit keeps rolling up to the oracles,

to the Larry Allison, to the Elon Musk, to Amazon, and to all these other folks. And we don't see how any of this is actually materializing yet in the real world. Let's put A4 up on the screen. If you want to know where money sees opportunity, what was I talking about earlier, BlackRock is on the verge of buying, quote, aligned data centers, a massive data center construction company, a deal valued at some $40 billion. That is the value prop that they see in just data center construction. And if BlackRock owns it, that means the money is not going to you. It's going to private investors.

Let's go to the next part here. And this is about the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission that has voted to let BlackRock buy a company that actually runs Minnesota Power. More Perfect Union did a segment on it. Let's take a listen. BlackRock bought global infrastructure partners, which is a big investment fund that itself buys up things like water and waste systems, transportation companies, and even large shares of entire airports. If you've flown in or out of London, congratulations, you're probably a customer of GIP. So BlackRock owns Global Infrastructure Partners, which is trying to buy elite, which owns Minnesota Power, which owns infrastructure like power plants, dams, and the land they're on.

Usually when private equity and asset managers buy stuff, they just do it behind closed doors. But because people would literally die without power, it's considered a critical service and therefore a regulated monopoly under Minnesota law. BlackRock doesn't necessarily have the same amount of reporting responsibilities as a publicly traded corporation. We've had a lack of transparency already regarding our rates and the quality of services in our community and superior. That ability to access that data would be decreased by the purchase, which would be a huge problem. The community has made it clear that they are. oppose the deal and a judge has already recommended against it. But it doesn't end there.

The final approval is going to come from the Public Utility Commission, a board made up of just five people appointed by the governor. This could have huge implications for anyone who uses basic utilities like electricity or water, i.e. the things that keep us from freezing to death in the woods, because if they realize it's profitable, nothing will stop them. And this kind of thing has happened before in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, with a power company called Upco. This is Alyssa Jean Schaefer, the director of climate and energy at the Private Equity

stakeholder project. If we look at Northern Michigan, there's a utility called the Upper Peninsula Power Company, or Upco. This was acquired by a private equity firm in 2014. Upco customers have seen a spike in their rates. Many say they can't afford. After the private equity firm took it over, shortly thereafter, they raised the bills. A couple years later, bills went up again. Then that private equity firm sold it to a different private equity firm. Once the new private equity owners were in control, they raise bills again. Since 2014, Upco, being owned by private equity, has seen four bill hikes. And where do you think that that's going? To whose benefit? You can see exactly how it's all happening. And I mean, the fakery of it, as I described in that open AI, AMD deal,

just seems very key. And I just think we all have to just grapple with again, for what? To what benefit? I hear all the time about productivity gains in the white collar workplace. Great. I'm against meetings, I'm against bulletins and all this list, nobody more than me. I don't know how the slackers out there are all doing it. And I don't mean that you are a slacker. I'm saying physically on Slack channels for people who can bug you at any hour of the day. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101 year old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old.

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By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You also see the consumer side effect of this where it's unscrupulous and it's crazy. So friend of the show, Seth Harp, put this up here on the screen, craziness. So he shows that people on Amazon have AIed his book and are selling it there.

I guess either pulling the text from Google Books or something like that and they're able to set up some sort of drop ship where you have an AI knockoff of the book versus the genuine piece. As he says here, quote, we need to rise up and stop the tech industry by force. Our livelihoods, our culture, and our ecological environment are worth fighting for. I am deadly serious. I like his energy. But what he points out is that his book actually explicitly states that he has a copyright proviso. It cannot, according to his copyright, be fed into AI systems. But instead, what's happened is somehow somebody's been able to do that, and they've been able to explode everywhere online. And what I think also was very crazy is, is that this is just one of the more high-profile examples

because the Fort Brad Cartel was such a popular book. I saw other authors show that their books also had, quote, AI competitors when you search for it. You also had this instance where immediately after the whole Charlie Kirk thing happened, that there were these weird books that started going everywhere, like in terms of biographies of Charlie.

So we have that? Even some that were like, you know, everything we know about Charlie's assassination. that popped up, like, you know, immediately, because some AI entrepreneur, quote-unquote, fraudster, really, saw the opportunity, saw that there was a lot of public interest and just said to, you know, chat GPT or whatever, write me a book about what we know on Charlie Kirk's murder, spun that thing up immediately and instantly it's up on Amazon. Exactly. It's insane. Let's go and put that on the screen, can we? It is A8, please, just to show everybody.

So you can see these AI slot books about Charlie Kirk's assassination, ignited conspiracy theories online, like you just said, about sci-ops. I mean, look, this is my biggest concern. And in fact, what we have talked about with SORA, the amount of AI videos that are now just explicitly going viral about, you know, there's the famous ones that are boomers, but I saw a few yesterday. People send them to me now because they know that I'm interested. and it's like a woman trying to save her son from a crocodile getting eaten. It's uncanny valley where I can tell, but, I mean, no offense to our older audience. But if you're like 50 or 60, I could see how you fall. They have tens of thousands of views.

They're going everywhere. And the reason why they churn this stuff out is because they can churn an unbelievable amount of slop. If even a couple go viral, let's say it can cover the cost of what the generation is, and then you do that at scale forever. It's a classic content business where they only need a few of these things, you know, to actually, to go viral. I've seen... Apparently, this is like all...

I'm not really on Facebook, but apparently this is like most of what Facebook is at this point. Because that's where the boomers congregate. That's right. So they would be vulnerable to it. And it's just like, AI slop generated by fake AI accounts,

served to other fake AI accounts that, you know, than some percentage of boomers are also taken in by. I myself enjoy a good cat video. I was watching some cat video TikToks yesterday. And I realized I was like, I don't know if this is real or not.

I mean, it's pretty low stakes when you're talking about a cat video, but when you're talking about, you know, something serious, which any of us could imagine, you know, a political figure or whatever, then it's a different deal. It's very destabilizing for our shared understanding of reality. And it's already good enough that we're at that point, even though, you know, a trained eye can tell most of the real from the fake. Exactly. And let's continue here. A8C, please. This was from Robin Williams' daughter. I thought it was actually such a nice message where she says, quote, please stop sending the AI videos of dad. If you have any decency, stop doing this to him and to me, to everyone even, full stop. It's dumb. It's a waste of time and energy. Believe me, it is not what he would want. To watch the legacies of real people be contented down to this vaguely looks and sounds like him so that's enough. Just so Other people can churn out horrible TikTok slop. Puppeteering them is maddening. You are not making art. You are making disgusting, over-processed hot dogs

out of the lives of human beings, out of the history of art and music, and then shoving them down someone else's throat, hoping they will give you a little thumbs up and like it's gross. And for the love of everything, stop calling, quote, it the future. AI is just badly recycling

and regurgitating the past to be reconsumed. You are taking in the human centipede of content. And from the very, very end of the line, all while the folks at the front laugh and laugh consume. So that is from Ronald Williams' daughter. Zelda, really appreciate that from her. And at the same time, we talked about China earlier. We weren't able to cover this bridge, but there's this new video going out and going massively viral for the right reasons. It's not AI. China has now officially opened the world's tallest bridge. They did it in less than four years. The bridge has a restaurant at the top, 2,600 feet above the river.

The bridge cuts a two-hour drive to two minutes, features a theme park with a glass skywalk, a high-speed glass elevator, and a waterfall off of the top of the bridge. Visitors can't bungee jump off of it. The Grand Canyon Bridge is 2,050 feet above the river and spans 4,600 feet across, quote, insane. And you can see here that is... A waterfall feature is...

It must be nice to live in a real country. You know, last time that we were doing stuff like this was when? Hoover Dam? That was over almost 100 years ago. By the way, if you've ever been to Hoover Dam, it's pretty awesome. People are making the comparison to the bridge that was knocked down by the ship in Baltimore. Oh, right. And how long it will take for them. I mean, I think they have started construction, which is actually pretty good for America's standards,

but it's going to be years and years before that thing is complete. And that's just, you know, a basic aspect. I mean, look, it's an extraordinary modern Marvel, et cetera, but it's also like nothing special in the grand scheme of bridges. And that will take much longer than the four years, apparently, that they were able to construct this in. And that's not all. Some incredible scientific breakthroughs coming out of China that we would be remiss if we didn't mention, let's put A-11 up on the screen. So they apparently have been able to innovate in terms of potential anti-aging. Chinese scientists achieve a breakthrough and reverse aging in primates.

They've demonstrated that genetically engineered human stem cells can reverse key signs of aging in monkeys. And these were, you know, monkeys very similar to humans. Marky a major step toward potential therapies for age-related decline in humans. This is one development that our friend Arnau Bertrand looked into and said, yeah, looks pretty legit and potentially transformational. They also recently developed this bone glue. This is a 10 that we can put up on the screen that, you know, instead of if you have these micro fractures and complex procedures that you would have to do requiring like screws and metal

plates and all the rest. They've developed this bone glue that repairs bone fractures. They say in just three minutes, another one that Arno Bertrand looked into and said, eh, looks pretty legit. Right. So, so that's what they're, that's what they're up to. Now, they are also in on the AI race. Yeah. So, you know, Deep Seek. Yeah, Deep Seek, among other, they're also not the only Chinese competitor in the AI development race, but it's not apparently what their entire economy is based on, as is ours. The point is is that they can have all of the above because they have the real stuff, they have actual, you know, a functioning government, they have a plan. It comes with a lot of tradeoffs, okay? You know, always be remiss if we didn't

say there are a lot of tradeoffs. But I have to be honest, it is looking, you know, it is challenging the Western conception of itself on a daily basis. They are like the Japanese of the 1900s, which could prove that you could leap a single generation and you could catch up to the West. And in many cases, you can actually do it a lot better than them. with the system which is completely foreign, completely in some ways, either antithetical or different to whatever is actually happening, you know, with the so-called, like, amazing creative destruction. And instead, it's entirely state-powered, it's state-sponsored, and it's just the sheer force of will. It also, what we have to note is it explains that weird hot mic moment between Putin and Xi Jinping

talking about organ transplants and immortality. So maybe Xi was in on this anti-aging secret. Let's relive that for people who haven't seen it. In the past, people rarely lived longer than 70 years. But today, they say that at 70, you are still a child. Human organs can be continuously transplanted. The longer you live, the younger you become, and can even achieve immortality. The two of them talking about immortality, maybe she was in on this.

But, you know, people saw, I mean, even I said, I was like, oh, it's kind of like a god complex. I'm like, maybe it's just reality. Maybe that's what the world's super rich and especially the leader of one of the most developing countries in the world can look at and can say, no, this is actually going to happen in my lifetime. But I think you just put it together and you put their production, their economic structure, their values, and then you look at ours and you're like, come on, what are we doing here? I mean, they would never allow themselves to be in a situation where some 80% of their entire growth is attributed in their stock market to a single sector. of the economy. Same with their GDP growth. Now, look, again, I've said they had a lot of problems. In fact, that book I just read by Dan Wang, these bridges, they're obsessed with these bridges. It's like everything is about infrastructure. It's almost New Deal-esque, you know, the civilian conservation corps. They're like, just go and build rest stops. Who cares if anybody uses them? I mean, there's something there. The point, actually, I think, for them is to project the

legitimacy of the state outside of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, like the big cities. They have to go out into the rural areas and be like, I tangibly am making your life better. You used to literally have to go two hours on some mountain path. I just built you a big-ass bridge. People are going to come from all over China to come in to see it. And it's awesome. And they do that with train stations, rural train stations, everywhere, all across here, even if people don't use them, just to show people the government's here. We're here to help. We've made your life better. You were living in the 21st century, even if you used to live in a backwater, what we would have considered it. I mean, there's something there, right? In terms of legitimacy and projection, sure, it's not purely

capitalist or makes sense from an efficiency point of view. But it does from a more grand strategic way of trying to disperse big growth and big projects all over the country. In some ways, that's what makes to be more of a unified country. And of course, they have division. They have all kinds of problems. But listen, I would like to have their problems, personally. I would like to have that issue of too many bridges and too many infrastructure projects as opposed to what are we saying, the Baltimore Bridge, which apparently is barely, you know, we're not even a projected timeline to finish all that quickly. How many potholes you and I drive here in Washington, D.C. area every day.

It's a shithole. Like, it's a shithole. And nobody does anything about it. And everybody's blaming each other. The metro, our, you know, on our premier flagship city here in Washington over the last 10 years, it's gotten so much worse, probably the same with a lot of different public transportation. I was, I mean, our government is literally shut down as we speak. And there's like no, no hope of it reopening anytime.

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Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Barry Weiss now officially editor-in-chief over at CBS News. It is wild. Just to reflect on who this person is and where she came from and what, I mean, she's like, you know, she was this opinion writer at the New York Times. She was, like, at odds with her colleagues there and ends up leaving the times after feeling some level of pressure, starts the quote-unquote free press. And now because, I mean, listen, it's because she will consistently tow the Zionist line. Like, it's very clear why she got the job.

Now she is going to be editor-in-chief over at CBS. So let's go ahead and take a listen to a little bit of her video from the main free press channel talking about what she is bringing to the table over there. This morning, the Free Press is joining Paramount. This move is a testament to many things, the free press team, the vision of Paramount's new leaders, the luck of starting an independent media company at just the right moment,

and the courage of my colleagues to leave behind old worlds to build a new one. There is a market, a big one, for honest journalism. And you've given us a mandate to pursue that mission from an even bigger platform. I'm going to continue to lead this incredible community alongside my tireless team, remaining CEO and editor-in-chief of the free press, and of course hosting this show. But as of today, I'll be taking on another title, too. I'm now editor-in-chief of CBS News, working with new colleagues on the programs that have impacted American culture for generations,

shows like 60 Minutes and Sunday morning, and also shaping how millions of Americans read, listen, watch, and most importantly, understand the news in the 21st century. Okay, so we got that. We also have her letter that she sent out to CBS News employees that we can put up on the screen. Dear colleagues, thrilled and humble to be writing you this as the new editor-in-chief of CBS, you can see the principles that she lays out that she says she will champion. Number one, journalism that reports on the world as it actually is journalism that is fair, fearless, factual, respects our audience to tell the truth plainly, makes sense of it. a noisy, confusing world, explains things clearly, holds both American political parties to equal scrutiny, et cetera, et cetera. I want to revise a little bit what I said at the top that she got the job just because

she's an arched Zionist. That's certainly part of it. Oh, it's a huge part of it. But I think the best way to understand the free press and the role that they served putting aside the pro-Israel propaganda, which has become a central part of what they did, but wasn't initially, you know, prior to October 7th, they sort of do the same. type of journalism that, like, you know, was being done at places like the Washington Post in peak woke era, where instead of punching up at power, they would find some random

person who did something stupid and, like, write a big story. Oh, my God, can you believe this random person, like wore this Halloween costume? Sure. I remember that story. They, yeah, right? They do the equivalent of that, but coming from the right. So not only do you have... I wouldn't say it's from the right, but yeah. Not only do they have the consistent commitment, like you will never have a problem with Barry Weiss doing real journalism around Israel. That's not going to happen. So not only do you have that consistent commitment, but you also have a commitment to always punching down and never really training your sights on power, certainly not power when it comes to capital and money. And so that's what you get. Truly with the Barry Weiss package,

that is what you're buying. And so, you know, we made a lot of fun about their valuation and ended up being bought for $150 million. Insane. Completely insane. But they're not really paying. for the business. They're not really paying for. Certainly if you look at the YouTube channel, like this little video she made had like 18,000 pieces on it, which you would think would be a big announcement and was one of the better performers on their channel compared to the rest of what they put out. What they're paying for is that protection of the elite and commitment to the Zionist ideological project. Let me triple down on that. And this is why people saying it's coming from the writer not understanding what's happening here. Barry Weiss is a

basically traditional center-left Zionist. That's what it is. It has coded right wing very recently, but is actually a very explicit and comfortable part of the American elite. What she has done very expertly is tell extremely rich people what they want to hear. So, and this is everyone needs to really stick with this because what happened with the Polberry Wise saga is she got what, according to her, you know, forced out of the New York Times or whatever for speaking up again against wokeism. But the reality of her career is going to where the power is. So you have to give her some political entrepreneurial credit. She identified, remember the IDW, the intellectual dark web of Rogan and Eric Weinstein and Sam Harris and all these people. She writes the big

piece, which coins the term in the New York Times. She cozies up to them to go on Rogan into the podcasters because she can see this alternative system kind of rising. Of course, her Rogan episode becomes one of the most viral, disastrous moments in history with the whole Tulsi Gabbard-Tote remark, which has millions upon millions of views on YouTube, far more, I think, than the entire free press channel combined. Just putting that out there if you haven't seen it. But the point is, is that at every moment, it's all about zeroing in on what can I do. So when it was very in vogue to be pro-free speech or to code pro-free speech, that's what she does. Then she focuses on the free press. The free press itself is basically anti-woke leftism, which is the ideology of the super

elite, which is you have these people alike, the technology industry in particular, by the way, who all invested in the free press, not because they thought it was a good investment, but because it was an ideological project. So for them, they're like socially liberal and all of that, but they just really hate, you know, either wokeism or they want to be able to stand up for, I don't know, like a better New York Times opinion page. Like, they think that that is the greatest thing that is the thing. And that's where the, quote, punching down really starts to come from. It's not even really down.

It's just not at the top. And that's how you ingratiate yourself. And look at her career. Since the free press, she moved to Los Angeles. This is very key. She gets her name dropped in a curbier enthusiasm episode because she's Larry David really likes Barry Wise. She was at the Bezos wedding.

The way that this entire thing even came about is that, What did she do? She ingratiated herself with the Ellison family, who, of court, this is like the classic example of, you know, Larry Ellison, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, loves guys like Tim Scott in the Republican Party. And of course, mega Zionist, him and his son. She courts him. He brings her to the Allen Company meeting, right, which is like the famous meeting where of the confab of the global super elite rich. And that's where this whole deal gets brokered. the Bezos thing, like I mentioned, it's all about ingratiating yourself to the people who are at the very, very top.

And what they all got annoyed about was wokeism, and particularly they got annoyed by journalism, which would challenge them. Now, a lot of that journalism was actually very annoying and stupid, like you just talked about the Halloween costume or some woke bullshit about how Mark Zuckerberg stole the election for Donald Trump because of Cambridge Analytica, totally fake story. But that radicalized a lot of the tech elite to be able to buy into. a critique of journalism, which doesn't really, though, actually get to the fundamental critique because the critique, originally, let's say, of the Zuckerberg thing, is that you're focusing in all this Cambridge Analytica and you're trying to control the censorship machine, but you're not actually focusing on the censorship machine itself, or the conglomeration and the massive amounts of power. She has never once actually challenged anything powerful

in the entire term of the free press, except for basically going after critics of Israel. And then you supercharge October 7th on top of that. There is no world where this gets bought for $150 million before October 7th. It doesn't happen. Why? Because at the end of the day, this whole anti-woke, oh, publishing vague critiques of the COVID regime. I'm like, I'm sorry, this is milked-toe shit in the days of the internet. It's not courageous to publish a guy who said, oh, mask mandates were stupid, right?

People on YouTube have been saying that stuff for years. What it's really all about is about trying to turn some middle ground where it's kind of critiquing people in power and it's supposedly subversive because it's vaguely points and winks at some of the independent areas of the internet and then kind of washing it together to make it more respectable. October 7th poured gasoline on that because as I just said, when you cozy up to the people in power, you fundamentally become kind of an arm of their interests. And in particular, a lot of the tech elite who backed her also happened to be mega Zionists themselves. And that's also a project which has been core to her conception since her very beginning in politics. And you marry that with, again, she speaks the language of the elite and, of course, is mega pro-Israel. And so can use her, like, veneer of respectability to turn murdering mass amounts of Palestinian children into an intellectually defensible cause. Like, that's what the entire thing is about.

That's her real value. Well, that's yes and no, because at the same time, it's still so important for these mega tech titans and others who back her to also have her serve as like a punching bag or a puncher to all of their like ideological opponents in the rest of the sphere. Part of what happened and why, I mean, I'm a little confused by how her characterizing her politically. I mean, they threw like an inauguration party for Donald Trump. They hired Bacchia. They hired Abigail Shrier who's like, you know, anti-translady. They've clearly... Not anti-trans, but...

But, you know, that's what... And they've done... That is what the trans people would like to say. But they've done a lot of work in the sphere of questioning transgenderism, I guess, we'll say. That's not right-wing, though. That is right-wing. I mean...

It may code that way today. It is right-wing. But in any case, she... Free Press really comes out of this, like, sense of all these kids on college campuses are going too crazy. And to your point about the alignment with... like the tech oligarchs, they were pissed off at their own employees for being like annoying on a variety of issues and wanting to, you know, wanting to, wanting to castigate them and have it.

Yeah, pronons in the body. Like all that sort of stuff. And so that's why she's really part of this tech elite shift to the right on cultural issues in particular. And that is the role that she served for them. And then in addition to this, you know, her most consistent principle throughout her career, even starting when she was in college, is like commitment to Israel and cancellation on behalf of Israel. You know, this is the same lady who was all in on O, we're against, wokeness, we're against cancer culture until it comes to Israel and then she totally flips on a dime. So that's why I say,

you know, the real benefit, if we zoom out of the free press and of Barry Weiss's approach to quote-unquote journalism, is that you're never going to have to worry that actual centers of power are going to be challenged, whether that is, you know, with regard to Israel, whether that's regard to tech elite, whether that's regard to concentrations of capital, that is not what she's going to focus on. That's not what her project is going to ultimately be. And so that's what you're getting for that. The reason why I wouldn't describe her as right wing, and she's also one of the people to punch, you know, explicitly, let's say, at, you know, anybody talking about immigration, right? She's one of those people who would happily punch Biden on the border, but she'd be like,

oh, but some of this stuff is just going way too far. But you agree with that. But you're talking about ICE. I'm talking about like actual calling for restriction and she's always trying to kind of control. She's basically trying to gatekeep a lot of the right wing. I'm not trying to do that, by the way, you know. And one of the things is, is that she uses a lot of this kind of concern trolling around norms and the establishment, et cetera, to explicitly push a very neoconservative agenda, both on Israel and on Iran. That's why, you know, the neoliberal themselves, Barry's a perfect example. Pro-Israel supposedly right-wing. I mean, look, I'm not bringing her personal life into this to denigrate her. I'm saying she is personally a lesbian, right? And so this is

somebody who, at least I'm assuming, has some socially liberal values, right? And traditionally has been, quote, of the left by her own admission. The only reason it codes right today for a variety of culture war reasons, but what a lot of people who kind of share my politics is really view that as a takeover of what a lot of more populist energy really was, you know, in the American right wing. And so really what we have seen is kind of this sane oligarch or this like Zionist oligarch washing and trying to turn themselves into like the true prop up of the Trump agenda or even anything that even resembles what the issue set was for a lot of people to even back Trump in 2016 and again here. But all of it does come back to basically being a social staple

of the world's super elite and being their go-to person. Van Jones is another example. Like you have a variety of these types of characters. I would say Bill Maher is one of them, although I guess he does have his own audience. Van Jones, Barry Weiss, I'm trying to think of a few, Thomas Friedman, Tyler Cowan, who we'll get to here in a little bit, guys who are just absolutely beloved by somebody

with a net worth somewhere around $5 billion and up. I will never understand it, but it's one of those things that really speaks to them. And that's why, you know, the Zionism is a big part of it, but it's not really the whole story. Because it really is about, like, ingratiating yourself with very powerful people, telling them exactly what they want to hear, and then kind of doing their bidding and setting it up so that you get a world historic payday from one of the richest men's son in the world. Yeah. Right. And from David Ellison. That's what it's about. And that's actually why it's a grift. Because you can see, I was pro free speech. Very successful one.

And I was, of course. Yeah. I love being called a grifter. I'm like, oh, really? Who's the grifter? The lady who sets the scifter? The lady who sets this thing up and sells it off for $150 million, one of the most bullshit valuations in media history, or the guy who's out here begging people for $10 a month on YouTube, okay? All right? That's not, and I didn't pay, you know, unlike the free press, who supposedly has all these great business things, they spent so much money trying to get people to sign up for their subscription program. I, you know, because Peace Guy is a publicly traded company, I would love to see their financials. Like the actual, real. financials, the amount of money put it in, the burn, and whether they were making any money at all. I would be willing to bet it was in the red whenever they bought it. But I mean, it doesn't matter because some idiot will buy it, but there you go. Well, Zateo has some reporting, B3. We can put up on the screen, as you might suspect, CBS News Insiders are like, what the fuck is going on here and very leery of what is to come. And by the way, just so you know we're not speculating. It could have a B4 up on the screen. Glenn Greenwald highlighted this

Heretz article, he says the Israeli newspaper, Harretz, understands what's happening and why Barry Weiss appointed editor-in-chief of CBS News. And then the subhead says, Weiss is a staunch supporter of Israel. And her journalism often circles back to her Jewish identity. You know, it's not speculation that a big part of the tumult at CBS has to do with Israel. In particular, we know with regard to 60 Minutes, you know, they did an actually, like, really great piece on Gaza.

It was belated, et cetera, but they did it. And apparently Sherry Redstone's very upset about this. This was a significant, and this is reported out, part of what they were upset with in terms of the direction of CBS. So Barry is brought in to correct the course in their view of, you know, the direction they're heading. And here's, you know, to get back to what Sagan and I were saying about what is the free press, what have they been up to. I mean, here's some examples of what they were up to. It can be 5 up on the screen. they did this piece called the Gaza famine myth.

They did the piece about how, oh, well, really, you know, these kids that the media is portraying as starving to death, well, really, they have these other conditions. So it's not fair to say that Israel is starving them because they have these preexisting conditions. First of all, there are plenty of other kids who have been highlighted or literally died from starvation that don't fit that model. Second of all, it is no revelation, of course, whatsoever that people who are vulnerable. who have pre-existing conditions are going to be the ones who are most vulnerable in a state-imposed famine. So that's the type of work that they have been doing on behalf of the Zionist project. Yeah, and that's just, and see, that's what was a big part of the value proposition. And I'm not a huge defender of CBS News. They've published a lot of stupid shit over the years.

By the way, one of the things I hate most about the network news thing is that they get all kinds of preferential treatment and ad rates that prop up their failing. business. I wish they would be able to compete with us on a normal market. But we also wanted to pull some of the non-Israel stuff that these people are buying. This is the compelling content that will now be available to the entire nation by a network news. Let's take a listen. Anthony Bourdain broke how a generation of men eat. The cult of personality he left in his wake is frankly insufferable. A lot of what we're seeing in food culture, chef culture today has its roots in the type of eating and journalism Anthony Bourdain did. Bourdain treated a lot of food.

ordering soup like a search and rescue mission, and now every man thinks they have to spalunk into some cave in order to get a bowl of fah, and unless they do, they're not really having dinner. Everyone just needs to calm down, take a step back, enjoy the slice of pizza or burger you're eating. It's not that deep. It's not that deep, says Barry's sister. They're in her compelling cultural content. That's some of the stuff that you're missing out on if you haven't been a free press subscriber. $150 million. value right there. That's your 150. You're bringing a lot of value into the table of that one. We also have a great one here from our friend Griffin who has flagged this. Let's put B8 up here on the screen.

This is about Tyler Cowan, who I mentioned, writing about how his favorite actress is not human. Tilly Norwood doesn't need a hairstylist. Has no regrettable tweets. And if you wish to see a virgin on screen, this is one of your better chances. That's because she's AI, writes. If you Wish to see a virgin on screen. Okay. Okay. All right. Got it.

Interesting. Interesting. That's what the great journalism over at Free Press is. And then finally, this is one of my personal favorites. I mean, you have to say it was pretty fearless for them to publish that. I guess. Certainly. It's fearless indeed.

This is one of my other favorites. We've talked a lot about Olivia Rangelde here. She's the lady who wrote that piece about, friend of the show. Friend of the show. By the way, you all know, obsessively. watches the show because it's one of those people who Googles her own name and her Google alerts set for them. And so Olivia is one of the, she's the woman who wrote that piece about the Gaza starvation myth, right? Or the Gaza about how all of the children who were used in photos

were at pre-existing conditions. That was her thing as to why people in Gaza weren't actually starving. I just want to give everyone to a view of the psychopathology of some of the people here. This is a multi-essay tweet that Olivia put out around the time that she joined the free press January 828, 2025 about how being half Jewish has been the most painful experience of her entire life. And she goes on and on and on about the absolute pain of being half Jewish and not being considered Jewish enough to be Jewish by some American Jews and Barat Mitzvahing and the convert, etc. And how eventual her journey, you know, to the religion. This isn't to make full.

fun of somebody's religious journey. It's only to show you the psychopathology again of the type of individual who gets hired over at the free press because I looked into Reingold's career. And again, this is the journalistic standard that is now happening over at CBS News. This is going to be the editor-in-cheap. Olivia Reingold was the podcast producer for Matt Iglesias. She was a podcast producer over at Politico. Had never written, in her bio on the free press, it makes it seem like she came from Politico. Yeah. She never wrote a fucking story, not one, all right?

And so I'm looking through, and look, not to shame podcast producers, our podcast producer is great. I'm sure he'd be to do a lot better job than her. But I bet you if he were hired somebody else, let's say Griffin or Mac were hired somewhere else, they would not try and play it off as if they were here, like, let's say, hosting the show, although I guess in Griffin's case, even as. He doesn't. He does a show.

So it's like, they were genuinely more qualified. And then she comes over and is like, ah, left Politico because of her. They're horrible journalists. I'm like, bitch, you never wrote a story. What are we doing talking about here? You know, you've written a byline. And now you're some Gaza famine expert. She's the same lady who did the thing

where she's like, I read every single one of Zoran Mamdani's, what was it, 30,000 tweets. It's called journalism. Again, no wonder that's what you think journalism is. You've never had a real journalism job. What are we talking about? So that's the standard. So if you can painfully tweet

about your journey of being half Jewish and like emotionally trying to put this out there some weird, I don't even know what the hell was going on with that. And then also recently went to the Columbia Journalism bookstore and was like, they're selling Qurans. And people were like, oh, I forgot about that one. It's on the syllabus. Yeah, and she showed some other books that were about, like, I don't know,

slavery or something. Oh, my gosh, can you believe that students at Columbia are getting educated on world religions? Like what? I don't know. It's shocker. Yeah, absolute shocker. You know, the funny thing is, people actually looked at the University of Austin, which is that whole Barry Weiss disaster, the anti-woke university. They have the Quran on their syllabus, okay?

So, yeah, it's like, you know, well, Barry's University thinks the Quran is worth teaching, but according to Olivia, it's not. This is the standards of what is now going to be acceptable over at CBS, and what's even crazier is that Barry will report directly to David Ellison, just to make sure everybody knows what this whole thing is about. The new editor-in-chief is reporting directly to the owner

of the entire company, and the reason why is because it all needs to come back to, you know, what he thinks is important, not only for his own bottom line, it couldn't be more obvious. And this is not from a defender of CBS News. For anybody that isn't, like, totally whatever line that he wants to. Yeah, look, again, I'm not defending CBS. I think they've published a lot of stupid shit over the years. I'm not saying they weren't anyway, some great, amazing journalistic institution. 60 minutes is pretty good.

No, yeah, but that's not all 60 minutes, right? Yeah. There's a lot of other people who work. Yeah, I know. But I'm just saying, like, to defend some of the work that they were doing. They've done some good stuff. My point is just that you can make it a lot worse. So my point is, if you wanted to fix it, is this how you would fix it?

Because that's their theory is that the theory of what's gone wrong apparently over at CBS is that it's not pro-Israel enough, even though the previous owner literally was one of the most, since selling it, that being pro-Israel is like one of the most important things to her and to promoting the cause of Zionism. And you put it all together, and in particular also with the way this entire merger all went down, where do you think things are going to go, folks? So you have a preview there of who she likes to hire her own relatives to produce some Anthony Bourdain-style slop content, Olivia Rheingold, who never apparently had written a real story before it's joining over at the free press, and Tyler Cowan to talk about Virgin AI. Baghdad Bata to defend things that are indefensible from the trip. I think there also is one other element, which is, we talked about this a little bit with Brilyn Holleyhand. I think she also, because she's below the age of 60, and she has an internet thing, that there's also the sense of like, she'll help us bring back the young people. Right. But it's what she, the role she serves is as like convincing older people that she has

something around the pulse of young people, even though that's also definitely true. Yeah. Very, very, very true. So anyway, that is our long take there. It's Zionism, it's power, it's capital. It's about telling very rich people exactly what they want to hear, and it is a great way to get paid. So I guess congratulations. Congratulations to all of them. And to everybody else who has this, you know, CBS this morning and all that stuff in your house, now you know where a lot of it is coming from. Yeah. Let's get to Venezuela. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

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Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Turning now to Venezuela, absolutely massive news here from the New York Times. Go ahead and put this up here on the screen. Trump has now called off all diplomatic outreach to Venezuela. The move paves the way for a possible military escalation against drug traffickers or the government of Nicholas Maduro. So let's, I'm going to read portions of this, just so everybody understands how that shit crazy it all is. Quote, President Trump has called off efforts to reach diplomatic agreement with Venezuela. Rick Grinnell, who had been leading negotiations with Maduro and other top Venezuelan officials,

but during a meeting with senior military leaders on Thursday, Trump called Grinnell and instructed him. All diplomatic outreach, including talks with Maduro, is to stop. Trump has grown frustrated with Maduro's failure to accede to America. American demands to give up power voluntarily and continued insistent by Venezuelan officials that they have no part in drug trafficking. American officials have said the Trump administration has now drawn up multiple military plans for escalation. Those operations could also include plans to force Mr. Maduro from power. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, has called Maduro, quote, an illegitimate leader and repeatedly cited U.S. indictment of him on drug trafficking

charges. This is insane. This is completely insane. Did you read that headline? Yeah. The paragraph said, Mr. Trump has grown frustrated at Maduro's decision not to accede to demands to stop down from power. What? Yeah, so we're just calling me like, hey, you got to go, man. And he's like, no. And they're like, okay, fine, we're just going to force you out. Why? Because allegedly you're involved in drug trafficking. I mean, look, maybe. But at the end of the day, in terms of the whole drug trafficking thing, as we have covered here on the show. It's like 7% of all the cocaine in the United States. It's nothing.

You want to look at a government complicit in cocaine trafficking? It's called Mexico. Do we do anything about it? No, because it's the number one trading partner with the U.S. And it's a big problem, all right? You want to look at a government complicit drug trafficking. Look at ourselves and talk to Seth Harp about the war in Afghanistan, okay? We're going to be super real here.

No, I mean, I think people can't wrap their heads around how. crazy this is because they just can't accept that this is actually happening. But it really is happening. All of the attacks on these boats that they tell us are drug smugglers, but they offer zero evidence of that. And oh, by the way, the widow of one of the people that was murdered on one of these Venezuela boats says he was just a fisherman. So maybe she's lying. Nobody knows. Yeah, but they, there's no reason to trust this government. Right. And we know, as you've pointed out as statistics show, like, that would be very unlikely that a boat would be coming from Venezuela with drugs.

That's just not really the way that the drug trafficking goes. Does some drugs transit through Venezuela? Yes. Do they get put on these small boats with 11 people on them, by the way, as one of them was? Very, very, very unlikely. In any case, all of this is a buildup to a regime change war. You have Marco Rubio in there who's been horny for this war for forever. So that's, you know, a major part of this.

You have Trump, and I want people to understand this, too. This isn't just about Venezuela. Trump's efforts to classify drug traffickers as terrorists and as enemy combatants. Obviously, they're drug traffickers here in the U.S. And so if you are saying this is, we are at war with these people and these are enemy combatants, guess what? Then, yeah, you don't have to go through due process. You just can murder them and say, oh, well, they were terrorists, drug trafficker, enemies of the state.

So it opens up Pandora's box in terms of the power of this administration, not to mention the way they are very clearly, I mean, this is the most clear indication that they're marching us along the path to a direct regime change effort here. And no, people, I mean, look, credit to the Times, they broke the story, although I will say having dealt with some of the stuff in the past, let's just say that a lot of people who are against this are going to be leaking like hell against Marco Rubio. I know some of the interpersonal dynamics that are involved here. Rubio himself is the most powerful White House official.

This is where I want to stick on. And this is the danger. And you can roll. I talked about Venezuela exactly whenever he was appointed. I was like, guys, this is dangerous. Because the cope I got was, he's changed his tune on Ukraine. He's changed his tune. And I go, yeah, maybe.

But what about the issue areas, what Trump doesn't care about? Like Venezuela. I actually think I said that on a Lex Friedman podcast. Here we are, now here today. Trump doesn't care about Venezuela. To the extent that he did, he cares about some win against the drug traffickers. So Rubio dresses up something about how it's actually

Maduro is involved in drug trafficking, and Trump is like, yeah, okay, let's go, right? And now he's like, oh, yeah, we've got to have a win down there. And he's somehow convinced himself that knocking Maduro out of power is going to be some grand amazing thing that can be very easily done, apparently by the United States military.

This is a fantasy. Remember, Rubio himself and the entire South Florida community has been obsessed with Venezuela for their own personal expatriate reasons. That is the only reason, all right? Not for the rest of us. It's like the old Cuba politics, except now applied to Venezuela. Those people have been salivating over regime change in Venezuela now for years. And what they have done is that the representative Marco Rubio, who previously tweeted a picture of Maduro next to Moimar Gaddafi is that they explicitly want violent U.S.-backed regime change, which of course is only going to make Maduro do what? Dig in, wouldn't you, if that's what happened to you? And this is the context of all of these strikes, because none of it makes any sense if you're thinking about drug trafficking. If you're going to strike a drug cartel, they're all in Mexico. They're all in Colombia. 93% of all it comes from there. You want to talk about fentanyl? It's all coming from China, transiting via Mexico. The DEA estimates 100% of all fentanyl that enters the United States comes from Mexico. One hundred percent comes from Mexico. By the way, most of the actual

traffic are like the people carried across the border. Most of them are American citizens, by the way. Yes, many are American. Yeah, I mean, I'm not denying that at all. They work for the drug cartels. Yes. But we're talking about the individual. That is where, the individual people. The way I understand that it usually works now is that the drug cartels will bring it to the border and they don't want to deal with it in America. And so they tell the American criminal organizations, you come across, you get it. You get it and you drive across the border. We own Mexico. We don't need to worry about problems here, but your government is your own problem, right? So that's broadly what the story is. It's obviously a multifaceted issue of which we could actually do something about

if we wanted to, but that's a separate conversation because that's nothing to do with Venezuela. Right. What's happening in Venezuela is like this neocon fever dream where they've whipped themselves up into demanding this guy step down for power for what? What possible purpose? Who cares who rules Venezuela. Nobody. You can't even really say that this is about oil now at this point, although it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy it from him either. If we got something out of it, let's say with a migrant deal or something. Yeah, I mean, there were previous negotiations. Yeah, it's not bad. It's a great deal. And the other thing about this is let's say they get their fondest dream and, you know, they get their Gaddafi situation. Like, how did that go for

Libya? Exactly. How will that go for Venezuela? You people are supposed to be opposed to, you know, refugees, like, how many migrants? What kind of a migrant crisis is that going to create? I mean, it's just insane. Why do you want a failed state? Why do you want a failed state? But that is exactly what they're gunning for thing here. And I think it also, you know, I can't get into Trump's head. But number one, I think there's a boomer Cold War mentality. Number two, they tried a regime change thing in his first administration with the whole Juan Guido situation. And then there was some like former Navy seal that turned up there that they claimed they had nothing to do with. But it appears that they may have also been funding or supporting some sort of, you know, former special

ops to go in and actually actively try. There was some evidence to support that to actively try. And that didn't work. So I think there's also the sense of like, oh, I failed the first time. I'm not, I got to get them back. Like, I got to prevail this time around that comes from Trump, fed by Marco Rubio. And then obviously Trump likes the power and control from just being able to say, this person's a drug trafficker, so I can just murder them because they're an enemy.

combatant. Let's put C1 up on the screen, which talks about this aspect of it in particular, which people really need to again sit with. Trump determines just Trump by himself, not in consultation with, you know, the Congress, certainly. The U.S. is now in a war with drug cartels and this, the informed Congress of this. And let me read a little bit of what he says here. They say, Mr. Trump's move to formally deem his campaign against drug cartels as an active armed conflict means he is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers legal specialists that in an armed conflict, as defined by international law, a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters, even when they pose no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials,

and prosecute them in military courts. The focus, they say, of the administration's attacks has been boats from Venezuela. The surge of overdose deaths in recent years has been driven by fentanyl, which drug trafficking experts say comes from Mexico, not South America, beyond factual issues, the bare bones argument has been broadly criticized on legal grounds. Think about, you know, the way this normally works. They say police arrest suspected drug dealers. It'd be a crime do instead summarily gun them down. But in an armed conflict, it is lawful to kill combatants for the opposing force on site. So that's why I say, we need to focus on Venezuela and what's happening there. But this also gives Trump extraordinary lethal powers to use against anyone that the government

claims is a suspected drug dealer and to summarily execute them without going through any sort of Jew process. That is the power that they are claiming right now. And to me, that is absolutely terrifying. But I'm also very afraid of is that would be the authority to assassinate Maduro. As you could say, he was the drug drug trafficking. That is where I'm like, yo, this could get wild very, very, very quickly. Luckily, there are some voices that are speaking out and that are paying attention to this. Steve Bannon and them trying to put some pressure on the White House from the right saying, hey, enough, let's not do this, calling out Marco Rubio. Let's take a listen. Little Marco, our secretary of state, who's, we try to shift away from being a neocon.

I thought we're there. He's got an amphibious ready group off the coast of Venezuela, and they're up on Capitol Hill pitching. And this is the first time that the Trump administration, I think, has ever acknowledged issues, structural issues, are custom. in traditions. So they're trying to get ahead of the War Powers Act by saying, no, no, no, no, you've misinterpreted. These are non-state actors. These are drug dealers. And we're going to do a lot more in just taking out these speedboats. The plan has, I think, been leaked that they intend to, or at least a plan is to tend to take over the ports and transportation nodes in an actual invasion. Yeah. I mean, well said. He's exactly right about this huge. And, you know, the thing is,

And, you know, I want to give Ryan credit and, you know, maybe two to our horn a little bit. From the beginning, when we saw that amphibious group, I was like, oh, man, this is not about drugs. Because you have to put it together with, you have to have lived in Washington and seen and it's all this stuff long enough to know the hard on that the neocons still have for Latin America. And for what? They're obsessed with Venezuela. I will never understand it. Even Israel, I kind of get it. It's religious, right?

Okay. I mean, you can, you not sympathize, but you can intellectually. understand that. Ukraine, same thing. NATO, Russia, Cold War. And I'll say, Venezuela? Why? What is this a country has no, no meaningful impact on us at all? And it's like they are just obsessed with it to the point where, as you said about the whole migrant crisis, I mean, part of the, a huge number of these people are Venezuelan, part of, because of the chaos down there. You want to create more chaos? Right. But you said, we're going to create more chaos to have left's chaos. How is that going to work? Right. No. We want stability.

in Venezuela. You know, it'd be great if it came for Maduro. If not, whatever, that's our problem. It has nothing to do with us. And instead, we're creating all this legal justification from the Trump thing to now this ending of diplomacy. Guys, let's put C-5 up here on the screen. This is, again, this is scary shit. This is from Cash Patel. He says, Maduro isn't just corrupt. He's an indicted narco-terrorist with a $50 million dollar DOJ bounty. Under my leadership, the FBI is now checking off every dollar, every account, ever. reenabler, America will never be a safe haven for his blood money. But remember, here he's calling him narco-terrorist, which fits with that legal definition, which we learned earlier,

$50 million dollar DOJ bounty. Apparently they want to raise it to some $100 million. They're basically trying to encourage, what, some sort of coup inside of the Venezuelan government, which, again, like, is America even good enough at coups anymore? Not really. Like, when's the last time we pulled off a coup exactly in Latin America that was apparently, you know, worked out well? I think it's been a long time, this is in 1970s. So the point is just around all of this is it's a psychotic insane ideological plan. Trump is either too stupid or he knows exactly what's going on here, and that there is not, there's no pressure from what I have seen from the ideological kind of anti-war right,

except from Steve Bannon and from Kurt Mills, who was played in that clip. And I think the reason is that they've been effectively bamboozled with this drug trafficking thing. Because it's like a fantasy, right? But we got to take it to the cartels. I think a lot of people want that. I want that. But we have to live in reality. Can we really just bomb Mexico?

Not really. When it's the number one trading partner of the United States. It's a problem, right? What do you do? Do you want to nuke the U.S. economy and NAFTA overnight, all these trucks that come across the border? It's not a feasible solution. And then at the same time, you have, oh, they've killed all of us.

And so they're trying to try fentanyl to it. That's what I immediately saw. from a lot of the government is like, this is all about fentanyl. I'm like, this is literally a lie. Like, there's no fentanyl that comes from Venezuela to the United States. None, zero.

And you're trying to disguise, like, a regime-change war. And so a lot of the more traditional anti-war right is not up in arms about this because they actually buy the bullshit. They don't do their own research. You can only point to Bannon and Rand Paul. And then, of course, the media, I mean, this should be wall-to-wall shit.

Cutting off diplomacy, cutting off diplomacy with Maduro and saying, actively considering regime change at the very same time do you have an entire amphibious naval assault group and we're bombing things in the Caribbean and international waters and you're telling Congress you a genius right the war we're telling you this is a war wake up like this is as close that we are possibly could be and I actually think the lack of pressure makes it 10 times more likely because at least they are somewhat receptive to online criticism you can't deny that some of the

anti-Israel, anti-Ghasa, or anti-Israel, like, part of the right way. The anti-Iran strikes. Anti-Iran, right. It had some impact. Look, obviously we were not successful. On Ukraine, same thing. I think some of the pushback had some impact. I have not gotten even 10% of what I want.

But I do think that kind of organizing a coalition, being very loud, actually did something about this. Here, there's nothing because everybody buys the drug trafficking shit. And that makes it, that plus the political constituency, where does Trump live, Crystal. Florida, right? Who do you think he's surrounded by down in Palm Beach? True. It's bad. Yeah. This is very bad. No, I think you're right. I think people on the right just say like, oh, the boat went boom, cool, you know, like way to go based. And that's like as and it's so, I mean, as you pointed out, they're literally announcing what they're doing here

and everyone's just pretending like this isn't happening. Trump made some pretty ominous comments to let's go ahead and play C-8. They're not coming in by sea anymore. So now we'll have to start looking about the land because they'll be forced to go by land. And let me tell you right now, that's not going to work out well for them either. So they're not coming by sea anymore. Now they're coming by land. So we'll have to look at the land. What does that mean? What does that mean? That what kind of an expansion of now who are you going to be drone striking, bombing, and whatever? Where are they going to be? What is that going to mean? Yeah. Are we doing strikes inside of Venezuela? Again, like, you know, they keep floating this stuff in Mexico. I'll believe it when

I see it. I just simply do not believe it will happen because of the geopolitical. ramifications for trade. And look, Mexico is a democracy. I mean, Scheinbaum is very popular, and they have all kinds of corruption problems. I would never defend the Mexican government. But at the very least, like, the one thing they are probably not going to tolerate, in my opinion, is literal bombing on their soil without the explicit, explicit permission of the Mexican government, which you and I is never going to, no, is never going to happen. And she literally has like a 92% of corroborating. Like they are very united behind her. Exactly. And by the way, they're actually kind of working with us a little bit right now. Not that it's actually doing anything. Apparently cocaine is importation is higher than ever. So yes, congratulations. These strikes are really doing a lot to actually stop the amount of cocaine coming into America.

You know, there's another point to be made there, too, which is that drug trafficking convictions are actually way down because they've reassigned so many of the federal agents that would normally be focused on that to like rounding up Jose at Home Depot. So they have, you know, drug trafficking, human trafficking, those sorts of conventions. evictions and indictments are significantly down under this administration because of where they have shifted their resources to. Yeah, Ryan actually, by the way, thinks it's a good thing. He said America needs to do more cocaine. So that's, that's right. Yeah, that's the most Ryan take. Let's have Don Jr. of all the discuss. Hey, yeah, I guess. I don't know. I think it's sad, you know, people poisoning their brains. I guess they think it's a good thing. Finally, by the way, we would just be remiss just to not point out who some of the clowns involved in all of us are. Can we put this please on the screen the challenge coin. Cash Patel has now come out with his own genre of challenge coin.

For those who are not just listening, how would you possibly describe this? What is this? It's like the Punisher. The Punisher symbol. On the back, it says presented by the director of the FBI, Cash Patel and has his signature. Two guns pointed down. Real tough. He's a very tough guy. In the GWAT community, I would hope that anybody who does this type of stuff is cringe. And I won't say the other word that they usually would say that accompanies somebody who has something like this.

In general, people who have fought and died and, you know, served. Entered Ball Halla. Generally don't memeify it into Punisher logos. And that... Hashtrail is one of the most embarrassing members of that. The Trump administration.

Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah, at least he is a good reminder that not all the stereotypes about Indians are true because some of them are fucking idiots. But, all right, there we go. I'm defying the stereotype.

He's true. Thank you, Cash, for showing the country that we are not all nerds. The true breadth of Indian culture. Some of us can also be 40-year-old losers who talk about Valhalla and have challenge coins and can podcast their way to the top. So, yeah, thank you, Cash. Yeah, haven't gotten an update on that Tyler Robinson investigation. No, it's been weeks.

Yeah, you're right. Nothing new has come out, at least from the official channels, so. That's true. I mean, at the same time, the legal system moves slowly, right? I mean, we had, I mean, Luigi, it's been, what? It's been almost nine months, right, since that happened. We're not even at trial yet, so. Yeah.

He sat in prison too far. You know, to be honest, to me, it's more interesting that there isn't more mainstream journalism digging into, okay, well, what was the timeline, let's talk to his family members? I mean, Ken Clippenstein continues to be the only person who really spoke to any of his friends. How could that be? That's weird. You know? Like, Ken was able to get a hold of a number of his friends.

There are a few, but, I mean, there is some weird shit that's going on. I mean, this is all sidetrack. You know, the so-called boyfriend or whatever has gone missing. You know, it's like unable to be found. You got all these tech, you know, the whole Dairy Queen video from Canada. Nobody knows if it's real or not. There's stuff about whether the Dairy Queen even existed. I mean, listen, I mean, it doesn't get too deep down the rabbit.

We did get that one surveillance video from a gas station of him, like, fueling up the next day, just like casually in the same maroon shirt, fueling up at some gas station, do it in a mouth. Police officer who family member, no interview, you know, nothing like that. Yeah, friends and family, other members of the Discord, you know, there's been no major. So anyway, all right. Take that for what you will. I'm Jonathan Goldstein. And on the new season of heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a

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