Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 11/15/23: Israel Storms Al Shifa, Pro-Israel Rally In DC, Shapiro Attacks Candace Owens, Senator Attemps To Fight Union Boss During Hearing, GOP Revolts Over Shutdown Deal, Wall Street Reacts To Inflation Data And GOP Backs Off Border Impeachment

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Ryan and Emily discuss Israel raiding Al Shifa hospital, massive pro-Israel rally in DC, Ben Shapiro Calls Candace Owens disgraceful over Israel rhetoric, Senator threatens to fight Teamsters union boss, GOP revolts over new Speaker deal on shutdown, Wall Street reacts to new inflation data, and MTG is defeated in her impeachment attempt over the border.   To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show uncut and 1 hour early visit: https://breakingpoints.supercast.com/   Merch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Because right now we've got Israel fight shut down Wall Street in Mayorkas. And that's getting close. It's Mad Libs. To something that's almost legible. Yeah. But not quite. What's missing from there is Ted Cruz. He was supposed to be on during the show today.

He can't get here until a little bit later in the morning. So we don't want to hold up the entire show. So we're going to put the whole show out, which you can get on breakingpoints.com, Spotify Premium. You can get it on YouTube. We will then put up the Ted Cruz interview after the show because I know people are itching. And whenever we get the show out late, we hear about it. So we don't like to hear about things. It's fair enough because there's also just a ton of breaking news this morning. One of the weirdest days on Capitol Hill yesterday, we have tons of audio and video. Three different fights. Right.

It just says fight. There are many fights, and we will take you through them from the tweets to the video clips. You will go on this journey alongside us because it really is a journey. Also, China and the United States reached a climate agreement last night. The State Department announced that around 10 p.m. last night because President Biden and Xi Jinping are meeting today. The climate agreement is on joint efforts to, as the New York Times put it, ramp up renewable energy as we're heading forward. So that's a huge meeting today.

That was a big piece of breaking news last night. China has basically cornered the market on clean energy. And the US, through the Inflation Reduction Act, put hundreds of billions of dollars into it. So what they're selling, we're buying. Yeah, there's no question about that. Also last night, Ryan, this is where we're starting today, the Israeli invasion of al-Shifa hospital in Gaza began. It's just an incredible kind operation against Hamas in a specified area in the Shifa hospital. The IDF is conducting a ground operation in Gaza to defeat Hamas and

rescue our hostages. Israel is at war with Hamas, not with the civilians of Gaza. Now, they went on to add that the IDF forces include medical teams and Arabic speakers who have undergone specified training to prepare for this complex and sensitive environment. Ryan, complex and sensitive environment is one way to put it. I mean, that's, you know. It's not funny, but yeah, you're right. Yeah. yesterday afternoon and into the evening, people were sort of glued to the scenario because the humanitarian situation is, we can actually even roll clips of what we're getting from Gaza so far. We have this, yeah, look at this. This is from inside Shifa Hospital already, incredible scenes.

Now Israel, I think a lot of people can probably predict beyond the IDF piece, there's senior administration officials talking to the New York Times from the U.S. saying that there are Hamas tunnels underneath the chief of hospital and Tablet Magazine. Before we started, Ryan, you said, well, yes, Israel knows there are tunnels under the hospital because Israel built the tunnels in the 80s. Yeah, Israel built the tunnels and they built a kind of bunker down there. So they're going to find a bunker and tunnels. We know that for sure. So Tablet Magazine wrote, I'll even read it while we're rolling this, and people who are listening on the podcast, this is a scene, it looks like an airstrike,

debris kind of blasting through the hospital. Tablet Magazine wrote, the Israelis are so sure about the location of the Hamas bunker, not because they are trying to score propaganda points or because it has been repeatedly mentioned in passing by Western reporters. And we'll go back to that point about the Western reporters again, but because they built it. underground operating room and tunnel network beneath Shifa Hospital, which is one among several reasons why Israeli security sources are so sure that there is a main Hamas command bunker in or around the large cement basement beneath the area of Building 2 of the hospital, which reporters are obviously prohibited from entering. Back to that point about Western reporters. So a lot of reporters have talked about how if they're going to interview Hamas officials, oftentimes those interviews happen at al-Shifa hospital.

Hamas soldiers are treated at al-Shifa hospital. There's no question that, you know, the Ministry of Health is run by Hamas. The idea that you're going to find the bunkers and tunnels used by Hamas is as obvious. If you are Hamas, you're the quasi-government of the Gaza Strip, and there are all of these tunnels, you're going to use them. So I've never been able to connect, and maybe you can explain to me how people on the right make this connection. I've never been able to connect the idea that there are tunnels underneath the hospital, and let's say there's even like a command and control center, and therefore we need to bomb the hospital. I would understand, okay, we're going to kind of surround the hospital. We're

going to ask everybody who's involved with Hamas to come out. If not, we're going to raid the bunker. I understand that, but I don't understand the connection between there are tunnels underneath Gaza, above those tunnels are hospitals and schools and et cetera. And therefore we need to bomb the hospitals and schools. How do people in their mind make that link? Well, I think this is actually why this entire hospital question is in many ways representative of the fault lines in the larger conflict, which is that I find it believable that because of how dense Gaza is, how small of an area it is, how densely populated it is, it's almost impossible to quote eradicate Hamas without mass civilian

casualties. I mean, I don't know how you accomplish the eradication of Hamas. It's a social movement with a military wing. Right, right, right. Embedded in the population. Right, exactly. And so at the same time, though, that then requires you to place an enormous amount of trust in what the IDF is telling you and what the Israeli government is telling you. And for a lot of people who want to be fully pro-Israel and who understand that

Hamas has put its own people in horrible danger, who understand that Hamas has taken steps that led to the deaths of many people, because Israel can't just sit back and say, we're going to allow our civilians to be massacred without a response So even from that perspective you have to then trust that the IDF and the Israeli government are saying that they are minimizing Civilian casualties and that they are you're doing everything they can you know We put that first element up on the screen which was the announcement from the IDF that said, we are putting health personnel, doctors in the hospital. We're doing everything we can. At this point here in the United States, we just have to trust that. And I think that's really, really difficult for a lot

of people to do. I think there are some people who are far too trusting, reflexively sort of trusting of the Israeli government. Sometimes that's for cynical reasons. Sometimes that's because people really just have a reflexively positive impression of the Israeli government in the United States. More than the people of Israel have a reflexively positive view of their own government. And I think sometimes it's because people are hearing from the Israeli government what they want to hear and not what the Israeli government is actually saying. IDF spokesperson said, quote, our focus is on damage, not on precision. Defense Minister Yoav Galant, we will eliminate everything. They will regret it. Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter, we are now rolling out the Gaza knockback.

I was pulling together some of these quotes to see what Senator Cruz thinks about these since he has said that we need to give unconditional and full support to Israel. But when Israel is so kind of openly saying that we will eliminate everything, our focus is on damage, not on precision, then when they actually get damage and not precision, it's easier for people to be like, well, you said that's what you were going to do. That's what you did. So we're going to go ahead and connect the AV there.

No, that's a great point. We talked last week about the Rafah crossing and some of the hits that people have taken as they're trying to get to southern Gaza. In the areas where IDF told them were safe. And it is highly unusual for a country that's attacked to then in any way facilitate a civilian evacuation in the course of human history. Now, that is the right thing to do in this case. But that also requires trusting the Israeli government. It also requires the people of Gaza trusting the Israeli government

to have safe passage and to do everything they can to have safe passage. Nobody is saying that Hamas isn't going to interfere with that. I mean, maybe some people are saying that, and if they are, they're wrong. Obviously, the people of Hamas have put their own people in a very difficult situation, a tragic situation. But that does require a lot of trust and saying that what the Israeli government is purporting to do is the whole truth, even if there are legitimate obstacles. And that is very difficult. It's even very difficult for me. And as people can probably tell, it's very difficult for me.

That doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean any endorsement of Hamas. It doesn't mean anything like that. It just means that this hospital situation, I really think, Ryan, does reflect some of these broader fault lines really, really well in a way that kind of makes it clear where the difficulties are here. And Israel has alluded to this being an intelligence operation, as you quoted earlier. And so if the kind of tunnels and the bunker underneath the hospital are being used for kind of command and control, it's possible that Israel will be able to

obtain some hard drives or something else, some other intel, if Hamas hasn't been able to spear it away. And that's if they were still using it at this point. I mean, I think Israel probably has pretty solid intelligence that at one point they were using it. Because if you have a concrete bunker and tunnel system that was built before you got there, you're probably going to use it. I think people from left to right should admit that that's a plausible scenario. It would be almost stranger, like you said, if they were not using it. And so we're going to see a kind of round of propaganda warfare after they have kind of taken over the basement and the tunnels in this bunker. We saw that kind of CNN face plant where they took a kind of crew, not a crew, it was weird, it was a robot. And at one point there was like an English-speaking IDF spokesperson doing like a Geraldo Rivera thing where he's like revealing the vault and he gets there and he shows,

look, here's a calendar with the names of the terrorists who are watching the hostages and half a million Arabic speakers immediately were like, that says Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Like, do you think we're all stupid or are you you stupid? Or do you just not care and you know that your supporters are going to like reflexively kind of cling to whatever you give so it doesn't matter? So we'll probably see some more of that type of kind of back and forth. Meanwhile, it's gotten really cold and it's raining and 1.7 million people don't have homes. A lot of those people are staying with family and friends and others who have taken them in, but a lot are not,

and a lot are out in the cold and the rain. It's like an absolutely miserable situation. We talk so much about the death toll that I think we forget about the living and the wounded and then the psychologically wounded, the traumatized. Spending the night out in the rain and in the cold after losing your home, even if you haven't been killed, is like a life-changing experience. I was thinking about that yesterday from also from the other.

I think that's absolutely true. I mean, we're talking about millions of people. And then I was thinking about this yesterday when there are people who actually still have family members that are being held hostage, and they also then have to trust the Biden administration. They have to trust the Israeli government. And they have so little information. And that's so, I mean, if you think about the network, this is actually how I was thinking about the network of how many people know you have 200 hostages. The amount of ripple effect that has into the population of people who are on pins and needles waiting to hear if their loved one is OK.

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and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And that brings us actually to our next segment, which is that so many family members of the hostages have been calling on Netanyahu to stop the bombing and agree to a ceasefire with Hamas so that hostages can be released. There's been news over the last several days that Hamas is willing to release a significant number of hostages if Israel will stop the bombing for a while. And that makes a lot of sense. The families don't want bombing across the Gaza Strip while their family members are being transferred because a lot of the strikes are targeted at moving vehicles. There was a case recently where the IDF said there was a car with suspected terrorists in it, and then it turned out it was three children under the age of 10,

a mother and a grandmother, and the only survivor was the mother out of those. What they mean by suspicious is that it's moving. And so Israeli families very obviously do not want their loved ones being put into a moving vehicle on their way to safety to be reunited with their family and then hit at the very last moment by an Israeli strike. And so that brings us to a march held in Washington yesterday that Mac and I went to cover. Producer Mac. Yeah, Producer Mac.

Who does not look like a young Mike Johnson. He does not. We would never say that. We kind of messed up the sound, so sadly you're not going to get the same compilation. You were interviewing people and talking about why they were out there. Why are you here? Generally, it was to support Israel. This is what the rally was for. You had some people that said they're standing up against anti-Semitism. And you had a lot of people that we talked to say that they were sorry about the civilian casualty level. But it was just an unfortunate fact. And this is just how it's going to have to be.

There was an interesting moment very early on in the rally where they said, next up, Van Jones. Yes. Van Jones is a former Maoist revolutionary. Yes. Who's been on quite the journey over the last 30 to 40 years of his life, became an Obama official, and then was kind of fired. He was the green job czar. Green job czar, and he was fired when Glenn Beck and Steve Bannon unearthed the fact that he used to be a Maoist revolutionary. It was lit.

It was like 2009. One of the first guys. I scooped that back at the Huffington Post. Wow. You're still in middle school or whatever. Not quite. This was 2009, I guess. I actually said that it was a win for Glenn Beck. He got a furious email from 2009 Steve Bannon saying, this was my win.

How dare you give this to Glenn Beck? We did update also Steve Bannon's win. Fine, you guys can both have this. Since then, you guys all know him as CNN commentator Van Jones. But as a person of the left who's long been anti-war, who's long spoken out against the occupation in Israel, stood up for Palestinian rights, surprising to see him there. He started out his talk saying he was there to stand up against anti-Semitism. But then he did broach the subject of a very gentle, let's stop bombing. And the reaction was quite profound. Let's roll his speech from yesterday. I'm a peace guy. I pray for peace. No more rockets from Gaza and no more bombs falling down on the people of Gaza. God protect the children. God protect children. Let's end all the horror and all the heartbreak in the Holy Land.

Let's end all of it. Let's end all of it. I don't feel powerful to do something about what's happening over there. What I do feel powerful is to maybe do something about what's happening here. Let's take a stand here against anti-Jewish bigotry. Let's take a stand against Muslims. Let's take a stand here against hatred. You can see how uncomfortable he gets there. Initially, when he said that passive formulation of there shouldn't be any more bombs falling from the skies. They're falling out of clouds

There was that initial cheer and then it took a little while for the crowd to kind of build up The chant of no ceasefire and back at him which he then hears and then you see him kind of stumbling a little bit I don't know what he expected Yeah, I like what did you think you signed up for here? He seemed surprised by the reaction, which is surprising. Which is self-surprising. By the reaction, right. And then he finished with what, frankly, I think we have to call Islamophobic. He said at the very end, he said he doesn't want to live in a world where people need to worry about letting their Uber driver know that they're Jewish. Is he referring to a specific thing that happened? I think there

was something, there were people, I think, on social media saying that they were nervous about telling their drivers. Oh, okay. So there are some people that are legitimately nervous about that, but that doesn't make it okay. Like if you are walking past a black person in a parking lot and you, you know, clutch your you or you like run the other way Yeah, like you're legitimately afraid, but that doesn't make your fear. Okay, right you are as a culture We're so like no that's wrong like stop right? That's racist to think of every single person right as a threat to you and so For people to say that like every uber driver is gonna be a threat to you if you say that you're Jewish

I thought it's just kind of an ugly way to think about it. You were watching that live while you were there. I saw you, as you were tweeting it, you were trying to figure out what Van Jones was doing. Yeah, what's Van Jones doing? What he was doing. We have a lot of, actually, video from this because it was a bipartisan affair. There were thousands and thousands of people there. This was a big turnout.

I don't think that's entirely surprising. They had some security. 200,000 probably at least, it was big. So the mayor here, Muriel Bowser, she said that, as NBC News put it, took steps early on to make sure her police force and the National Guard were ready. DHS, so Department of Homeland Security, quote, raised the security level to the highest designation in anticipation of an enormous crowd and because members of Congress were expected to attend. So, I mean, it was the Palestinian youth movement asked its supporters on Instagram, quote, not to engage with participants at Tuesday's pro-Israel event. Huge turnout, was entirely peaceful. It seemed like no skirmishes at all yesterday. So that's fantastic that nobody had to, that these security concerns were perhaps unfounded or perhaps the security

deterred anything that would have happened. That said, those members of Congress were eager to take the stage, take the microphone. So let's roll some more clips from people who were talking on the National Mall yesterday. Yeah, we got Speaker Mike Johnson, who continues to confirm that he's a real person. He continues to exist. And he was sharing a stage with Chuck Schumer. Wait until you see the picture of John Fetterman we have, but let's start with these clips here. The calls for a ceasefire are outrageous. So the minute I heard of what happened in January 7th, I knew I had to go to Israel as the first ranking Jewish Senate majority leader. In fact, the highest ranking Jewish elected official in American history. I not only had a desire to go to Israel, I felt a special obligation to go.

He's so used to saying January 6th when he talks about tragedy, Chuck Schumer, that is. He said January 7th, which is perfect in some ways and just so pathetic. We also have this picture of John Fetterman. We can put this next picture up on the screen so you can see him literally wrapped in the Israeli flag. That's actually saying a source passed along that photo of him from the National Mall. Ryan, the Mike Johnson and Chuck Schumer comments, I think they were almost like back to back in their presentations. They were on the stage together, right? Yeah. Nothing surprising. I don't think anything was surprising. There was Isaac Herzog, obviously the president of Israel, zoomed in, beamed in over video and

said, Jews all over the world are assaulted for being Jewish. The hatred, the lies, the brutality, the disgraceful outbursts of ancient anti-Semitism are an embarrassment to all civilized people and nations. Jews in America must be safe. Jews all over the world must be safe. Nothing really surprising in the speeches, though. The most surprising thing I thought was that they invited John Hagee, and he agreed to attend. We can put up this next element for Waleed Shahid. Hagee is kind of the Farrakhan of this issue, like extremely. I think Farrakhan is the Farrakhan of this issue. Well, that too. Well, for the right, like Hagee is just this out there, wild, anti-Semitic Islamophobic guy who believes that he's one of the leaders of this idea that it's

a good thing that Israel is a Jewish state because in the end days there will be like cannon fodder or whatever for like the second coming. I purposely don't know too much about the theory. I know it's out there. But to me it would be like imagine if at the pro-Palestinian rally a couple weeks ago or a week ago, whatever it was, time is so compressed, that Farrakhan spoke. Yeah. Every single person who had anything to do, and wasn't even at the rally, everyone in the squad, everyone who supported a ceasefire resolution, everybody who had been remotely critical of Israel would have been asked, do you condemn Louis Farrakhan? And do you condemn the organizers

for inviting Louis Farrakhan? And you condemn the organizers for inviting Louis Farrakhan? And you know what? Maybe that's fine because he is beyond the pale. So what on earth would he be doing on that stage? This guy is beyond the pale. And the fact that he can share a stage with these politicians, and the politicians don't get pressed other than on this program, as Cruz will be later, about his, about sharing the stage with this guy is kind of mind-blowing double standard to me. Although, like, again, I'm an evangelical Christian conservative. I have no idea who this guy is.

I actually never heard of him. I am vaguely familiar, like you. You're in luck. Keep it that way. He's, he's, he's a bat. He's. So, yeah, I mean, after you pointed this out to me yesterday, I was kind of going somewhat deep on it. And again, this is some of the. Even his speech was crazy. He didn't even like tone it down. Some of what he says is familiar. You know, the language about Israel and the end times and how some Christians maybe see the political question of Israel through that lens. It's not something that

I hear a lot. I don't think there are people on the right that make that argument. I think it's basically... But when they put him on the stage. It just validates right thing. Yeah, I was just gonna say yeah I think it's like it's one of those figments of It's easily made into a straw man to represent the whole right when I think it's something that represents a kind of faction of the maybe like evangelical Christian yeah, right But even then it's not representative of the whole movement by a long shot. But you're right. You put the guy on stage, you're undoing any effort to say,

no, no, no, no, this isn't us. Yeah, how he keeps getting out there reflects the power that he has. In Waleed's post, it quoted one of his old sermons where he basically says that Hitler was helping to usher in some biblical prophecy where he says, God says in Jeremiah 16, behold, I will bring them, the Jewish people, again unto their land that I give to their fathers, and they, the hunters, shall hunt them. And then he says, that would be the Jews. Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone who comes with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. This is the guy that literally was on stage yesterday. Absolute bananas. There's no excuse to put someone

like that on stage. So the people that we, it was a very peaceful affair. And the Fetterman kind of get up that you saw there was kind of standard attire, like a lot of people draped in flags, a lot of flag waving. You did have some—you had some offensive signs, like finish them off and stuff like that, but not many. It was most—most people did not have signs. There seemed to be a lot of young people, high schoolers, college students bust in. The cheers for Schumer actually was interesting to me. I assume that there were a lot of probably center left people there. Well, and I asked a lot of the people how they felt Biden was handling this situation. All of them said they either were happy with how he was

handling it or they were pleasantly surprised with how they were handling it. All the people who were pleasantly surprised with it, I asked them, did you vote for Biden? They said no. Would you ever vote for Biden? They said absolutely not. So it's not like he's winning people over with that, which it matters when it comes to the political calculations. But yes, there was a lot of

support for Biden's handling of this so far at that rally. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated.

I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.

Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast hell and gone, I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've received hundreds of. No town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've received hundreds of messages from people across the country begging for help with unsolved murders. I was calling about the murder of my husband at the cold case.

They've never found her. And it haunts me to this day. The murderer is still out there. Every week on Hell and Gone Murder Line, I dig into a new case, bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator to ask the questions no one else is asking. Police really didn't care to even try.

She was still somebody's mother. She was still somebody's daughter. She was still somebody's sister. There's so many questions that we've never gotten any kind of answers for. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Hell and Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145. Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators

shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports

collide and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The question about Hagee also gets to something we wanted to discuss here, which is an internecine squabble at The Daily Wire that has erupted just in the last 24 hours. And this will be a good segue into the congressional fighting. There's just so much fighting today. But let's take a look actually at this clip of Ben Shapiro responding to questions about Candace Owens who works for The Daily Wire. Ben, I think his title now is editor at large at The Daily Wire. I don't think he's super involved in news curation and the daily line editing or anything like that. So someone asked him about

Candace Owens, who's been critical of the rights approach to the question of Israel in the last month. Let's take a look at the video. Yes, basically saying she's been absolutely disgraceful. Right. And her faux sophistication. You see a woman in the background, her jaw is just dropped, mouth agape, cannot believe that she's seeing this savage attack. Yeah. From Ben Shapiro on KSO. So what's the background here? I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

What has she been saying that is absolutely disgraceful? What's got him so upset? So let's actually roll that. I don't even know all of their personal drama. Well, let's just roll that clip, actually. Here's Candace Owens. A little, a small flavor. She has a show. She's in a Twitter account. So she's talked a lot over the course of the last month and mostly has been asking questions. I think that people take as, oh, you're just, you're just asking questions. And is this before or after Shapiro-Ripter? This is before. Okay, so this is before. Okay. So here's one clip. I am here today to endorse Nikki Haley for president

of Israel. I think she's earned that. I think Bibi Netanyahu is going through a very bad time right now. Support for Israel has virtually collapsed socially. If you're paying attention to the trends and you're paying attention to what people are watching, you're paying attention to the protests. And the one person that I think is capable of getting it back is Nikki Haley with enough money from foreign interest lobbies. So there it is, guys. I'm endorsing Nikki Haley, president of Israel. Well, first of all, it wouldn't be foreign money. It would be domestic money if she's running for president in Israel, right? Well, or it would be millionaires in the United States.

Oh, okay. That's what she said. Also, it's not president, it's prime minister. President is Herzog. It's just a ceremonial role. Right. Come on, Candace. Come on. Yeah, if you're going to endorse somebody. She had an embarrassing moment last week that went viral. I think that was actually kind of incisive, maybe, even though she stumbled on all the details. Yeah. The whole thing is supposed to be a joke. I don't think Ben Shapiro would be particularly upset about a Nikki Haley joke about how Nikki Haley is so pro-Israel that it is problematic. But actually, this is interesting. As we're taping right now, Candace Owens announced that she is dropping, Tucker is dropping a Tucker on X with Candace Owens at 6 p.m. So that was announced late last night that they were sitting down.

Ben Shapiro and Tucker has been really mad at Tucker too, right? Yeah, they don't get along. They don't get along and have been sharply critical. But actually, I think one of the broader takeaways here, Candace Owens, we can put her response up on the screen. She had a very cryptic post that, yeah, that's what actually what Mediate called it, a cryptic post. She was tweeting from the Bible right after this whole thing was blowing up. So she tweeted, blessed are the peacemakers, for they should be called the children of God. Blessed are they, which are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. And she went on in a thread, her second tweet was, Christ is king. So the kind of cryptic message there is, you can interpret that in a lot of different ways. She said you cannot serve both money and God. She quoted that

too. Yeah. So she keeps going and says, no one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. Again, quoting from the Bible, she says, you cannot serve both God and money. And so I think if I were Ben Shapiro, I'd probably interpret that as an anti-Semitic trope. And so this is, again, a company that he has some stake in and leadership of. He is easily one of the most visible political commentators in America, not just on the right. He is very, very powerful on the right. The Daily Wire has a lot of clout on the right. Candace Owens has a huge audience as well. I think, Ryan, what this speaks to is this sort of ironic because Donald Trump did a lot of very, very pro-Israel things,

but I think he ushered in this era in the conservative sphere where all of the prior, I guess, things that were held sacred, you know, total unconditional support for Israel, all of these other things that you used to not be able to say, for example, I won't touch entitlements. There are different things like I won't criticize NATO. All of those prior things that were considered sacred and untouchable in the conservative movement, there is now a significant contingency of people, at least in conservative media spaces, who have a lot of fun poking at that stuff. And I don't just mean fun in like a cute way. I mean, there's obviously something ideological there. And there are also,

I think, you know, the motivations of social media to kind of poke around at those issues. There's something that can be very gratifying to people about that. I don't personally love Candace's just asking questions approach the last couple of weeks. She's had, again, some embarrassing moments. Last week, she was asking about the Muslim quarter and the Christian quarter of Jerusalem, thinking that it was almost like Jim Crow and got corrected in the middle of an interview. I think it's great that people are learning more about what's actually happening in Israel and what's actually happening in Jerusalem and not just taking what they're being told from the media as though it were gospel, so to speak. I think that's great. But I think you should probably save the, like, gotcha, just asking questions things until you feel really comfortable with what you know.

Yeah. So you feel really comfortable with what you know. Yeah, and as for her comments, I don't think that there's a, as far as I understand, there's no get out of tropes free card by quoting the Bible. No. It's still, like, that's dicey stuff. Yeah. That she's pushing. And I think your point about how Trump unleashed some of this is interesting because the other thing that he unleashed was both anti-Semitism and extreme pro-Israel politics. Like he has said some of the most anti-Semitic stuff any president has ever said, where he'll be like, you know, you know, those Jews, they control Washington, but that's great that they do because they love

Israel and I love Israel. And you're like, that is deeply anti-Semitic, what you just said. And he's like, he would probably say, no, that's pro-Semitic. Or he would say something about how they're good with money, like just the grossest anti-Semitic tropes. But then he would follow it up by talking about how unconditional, how he moved the embassy to Jerusalem and how much he supports Israel. And so it was, it ended up becoming a cover and then eventually a substitute for not being anti-Semitic. And so I think when you unleash that, this is kind of the discourse that you're going to get around it. Yeah, no, I think that's absolutely true. And I think we, yeah, we see it in other areas of the conversation as well, not just in Israel. But this is a really, I do think this is really interesting because there's no cracks in Israel's support in Congress. You know,

even people who are, J.D. Vance, for example, when he was trying to divorce the funding of Ukraine from the funding of Israel, That was a very intentional, specific thing. So even somebody who's questioning the extent of our military assistance to Ukraine has zero interest in, you know, even starting to nibble around the edges or question the aid to Israel or flirt with the idea of a ceasefire. I mean, there's virtually no one. I mean, maybe I haven't followed Thomas Massey closely enough on this. Actually, last week on the show, Rand Paul went further than any other Republican I've heard talking about civilians in Gaza. But very little of this has translated into Congress. and I'm not sure that much of it has translated

into the voter base, the sort of Republican body politic either. I'm not sure how much of it has actually sort of escaped the chambers of online right-wing discourse, but it's definitely there. And people in media, Candace has a huge viewership. Ben has a huge viewership. Ben has a huge viewership. So there's going to be more polarization on this issue on the right going forward. I think especially the longer this lasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time.

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Teamsters, had gotten into a tussle, which we're going to talk about in a moment, with Mark Wayne Mullen, who is also a real person, a senator from Oklahoma. He was elected to the House back in 2012, now over in the Senate. He ran a plumbing company, and that's going to be relevant to this fight that we're going to see break out. I don't want to spoil too much of it, so let's just roll this clip from the Bernie Sanders help committee yesterday. Everybody knows this here in the last time, him and I kind of had a back and forth. I appreciate your demeanor today. It's quite different. But after you left here, you got pretty excited about the keyboard. In fact, you tweeted at me one, two, three, four, five times. And let me read what the last one said. It said, greedy CEO who pretends like he's self-made. Sir, I wish you was in the truck with me when I was building my plumbing company myself and my wife was running the office because I sure remember working pretty hard and long hours.

Pretends like he's self-made. What a clown. Fraud. Always has been, always will be. Quit the tough guy act and these Senate hearings. You know where to find me. Any place, any time, cowboy. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. You want to run your mouth? We can be two consenting adults. We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect.

You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution every poll? No, no, sit down.

Sit down. No, no, you're a United States senator. Act it. Okay. Sit, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? No, no, sit down. Sit down. You know, you're a United States Senator. Act it. Okay. Sit down, please. All right. Can I respond? Hold it. Hold it. Now that's a grandfather move. Yeah. That's, I mean, Bernie, breaking up the fight. Before we get into the background on why they went to war like this, anything you want to tell us about Mark Wayne Mullen? No. Okay. But also, if you were listening, he stood up. So if you were listening to the audio version of that, Mark Wayne Mullen actually, behind the desk, stood up.

The camera didn't know what to do because all of a sudden now it's just filming his waist. C-SPAN's like, what the hell? Our cameras don't move that high. Why'd this guy just stand up? They're not on a swivel. They're just in the same spot. So yeah, he physically stood up as though he was going to go down towards the witness stand. Yes.

And so back in March, there was another hearing of these same union leaders. And the background is that, so Mark Wayne Mullen inherited his father's plumbing company in Oklahoma. And it was a large company that was involved in a lot of large projects. And so the Teamsters, the pipefitters, which are part of the Teamsters, tried to unionize Mark Wayne Mullen's company. They protested outside his house, outside his business. Shame on Mark Wayne Mullen. This is very standard union stuff that they were doing. Drove him completely batty. So he confronted O'Brien last time. So let's roll this first clip here. I started with nothing. Absolutely nothing.

In fact, I started below nothing. And I started growing this little plumbing company with six employees to now we have over 300 employees. And back in 2009, you guys tried to unionize me. My guys were making money. They were getting paid more than the union halls were paying their plumbers. Our benefits were better. But because we started bidding jobs at reunion jobs and winning those, union pipefitters decided they were going to come after us.

They would show up at my house. They'd be leaning up against my trucks. I'm not afraid of a physical confrontation. In fact, sometimes I look forward to it. That's not my problem. So, Ryan, most of the coverage of this was sort of an inch deep and didn't go to this context from earlier in the spring, which whatever you think of Mark Wayne Mullen,

that is a much more substantive line of questioning at a hearing than just going through someone's tweets. It's so ridiculous. I mean, again, anyway, I was glad that you dug up the context because it all makes so much more sense when you recognize that this goes back years between the two of them. Yeah, and this is real class war. And so then Mark Waymullen then presses O'Brien, how much money do you make? They then fight about how much truckers who work for the Teamsters make. And then it finishes with this.

Again, this is from last March, which predated this near fight. So let's roll the last little bit of this. Sir, you don't know what hard work is. You want to follow my schedule? Secondly, I'll do it in a minute. Secondly, UPS feeder drivers, and you can quote Carol Tomei, who quoted this, they make $93,000 on the lower end. Some of them make $150,000.

I said feeder drivers. Feeder drivers, tractor trailer drivers. Some of them make $150,000 per year. Some of them do. I don't disagree with that. How much have you been there for years? Most of them make over $100,000. So reclaiming my time, I go back to the whole fact that, sir, you haven't created a job.

We haven't? You haven't been there. You haven't. Sure we have. You haven't. Sure we have. Tell me one job that you created. What are you talking about?

Be specific. You're an employer? No, we're not an employer. You employ people? No, but, you know, it's funny. We create opportunity. We create opportunity because we hold greedy CEOs like yourself accountable. You call me a greedy CEO?

Oh, yeah, you are. You want to attack my salary, I'll attack yours. What did you make when you owned your company? When I made my company, I kept my salary down at about $50,000 a year because I invested every penny into it. Okay, all right. You mean you hid money? No, I didn't hide money.

Oh, hold on a second. Okay, he said that's out of money. Oh. Hold on a second. Okay, call it. He said that's out of line. All right, we're even. We're not even. We're not even close to being even. You think it's smart? You think you're funny?

No, you're not. You think you're funny. No, I never said. Did I smile? You frame your opening statement. Hold on, hold on. You frame your opening statement saying you're a tough guy. Senator, continue.

Senator, please continue your statements. This is behavior. But, sir, this is. You frame your opening statements, Stan. Senator, continue. Senator, please continue your statements. But sir, this is, I think it's great. So not hard to see how it rolled from that to eight months later, Mark Wayne Mullen demanding satisfaction. Yeah, well, I mean, listen, Mark Wayne Mullen was right that they were not even close to even because Sean O'Brien got the best of him in that exchange. Because again, he's the one testifying. He's not the United States senator who's going through mean tweets from the podium. And also another thing I'd like to say is I enjoyed that both of the union leaders were named Sean. So Sean Fain was also there, obviously the head of the UAW. Sean O'Brien,

as Ryan mentioned, was head of the Teamsters. And they did have an actual exchange about electric cars. I'm not talking about Mark Wayne Mullen, but there were actual exchanges between the senators about electric cars. The title of the committee's hearing was Standing Up Against Corporate Greed, How Unions Are Improving the Lives of Working Families. And Bill Cassidy, a Republican from Louisiana, said that this was, quote, a taxpayer-funded pep rally for big labor unions. Bernie Sanders says, quote, how do we create an economy that works for all of our people and not just the few? We have more wealth inequality than the Gilded Age. Sarah Nelson was

also there. Fain spoke about some of his history that you've covered really in great detail for years. He talked about the deals that were just made. And it was, there's so much substance right now when you have all of these union leaders in front of you to ask him about mean tweets. I mean, do I think that the head of the Teamsters should be tweeting like that about U.S. senators? Probably not. But my God, you're a senator whose constituents are being affected by these deals every single day, affected by these deals, and that you would waste the people's time reading mean tweets because your ego is more important than actual questions because you want to push this guy on personal

beefs. I mean, I just thought it was pathetic. And also, if you actually wanted to get in a fistfight, that's not the place to do it because you know you're going to get broken up before the punches ever start getting thrown. Yeah. You've got to go actually to the Teamsters Hall. It's actually right on Capitol Hill, the building. You could call them and say, hey, meet me down on the sidewalk. It's a nice building.

It's the nicest thing they've got. Speaking of the Gilded Age, it's like literally a gilded building. It's an incredible building. So just walk down there if he really wants to fight. So he just wanted the clip. He knew Bernie wouldn't let that happen. One of the better exchanges, Diana Furchgott-Ross, she's at the Heritage Foundation and takes very predictable conservative positions on energy policies. But she actually raised this really interesting point about union jobs and electric cars. And this is, again, one of the least discussed but most

serious fault lines happening right now. And any person who cares seriously about this, like Sean Fain, who does, has put a lot of thought into where the Democratic Party wants to go. I mean, the Biden administration struck a deal on renewable energy with China yesterday. That announcement happened yesterday. And they were talking about mean tweets in this hearing. Diana Furchgott-Roth raised this point, but that should have been, I mean, if anything, if Republicans in the Senate wanted to have a conversation, when you have all these union leaders in front of you, it should be about that. It should be about actually where the party that these, in many cases, unions are giving the political, on the political side that they're

giving donations to, how is that affecting the existence of the jobs that their workers might be able to have in the next five to 10 years? Obviously a much more immediate and serious question than why did you tweet that I'm a greedy CEO or something like that? So that was a pettiness that kind of was over top of an actually substantive difference. We have next we can move to pettiness over a vote around speaker. It's like looks like Kevin McCarthy gave somebody a kidney shot in the hallway who voted against who voted to oust him from speaker. Let's roll this. Explain to us what happened with you and Kevin McCarthy. Well, I was doing an interview with Claudia from NPR,

a lovely lady, and she was asking me a question. And at that time, I got elbowed in the back, and it kind of caught me off guard because it was a clean shot to the kidneys. And I turned back, and there was Kevin. And for a minute minute I was kind of what the heck just happened and then I um you know I chased after him of course he's a as I've stated many times he's a he's a bully with 17 million dollars in a security detail

you know he's the type of guy that when you're a kid would throw a rock over the fence and run home and hide behind his mama's skirt and he just just, you know, from behind, that kind of stuff. That's not the way we handle things in East Tennessee. If we have a problem with somebody, I'm going to look them in the eye and talk to them. Okay, so he walked down the hallway, hit you with his elbow. Yeah, you can go on Claudia's Twitter account, pretty much, or X account. It's very accurate. Okay. So then just explain. So you chased him? What do you mean you chased him?

I just ran after him. I was like, what the heck? You know, why'd you do that? You know, because it was, like I said, if you've ever been hit in the kidneys, it's a little different. You don't have to hit very hard. Well, so at least he's giving McCarthy credit for being precise, that he really got him in the kidneys. I think this whole thing might be giving Kevin McCarthy too much credit for taking any type of aggression into his own hands. It doesn't seem like something Kevin McCarthy would do, to be honest. But he is right. The NPR reporter has said that she's witnessed this. There you go. That's Tim Burchett, by the way, who voted against McCarthy. He's one of the, what McCarthy calls the, quote, hateful eight. Yeah.

Who voted against him. So Matt Gaetz, the leader of the hateful eight, the crazy eight, who I also call him the crazy eights. Crazy eight. Gaetz, greats. Gaetz, crazy eights. I like it. It's like Dr. Seuss. He filed an ethics complaint.

And so McCarthy has said the entire thing organized against him was about Gates' own ethics complaint that McCarthy would refuse to halt. So now Gates has filed an ethics complaint saying that it was unethical to give a kidney shot in the back to a member of Congress. McCarthy himself responded by saying that he didn't do it. He just kind of tapped him a little bit. And if he hit somebody in the kidney, that they would be on the ground. Yeah. So this is not the complete state of Congress. We have one more, even. Well, so we even have McCarthy's response, which is great, Ryan. Yeah, here's what he said. If I hit somebody, they would know it. If I kidney punch someone,

they would be on the ground. And to the point about they would know it, well, I mean, they're saying they do. They do know it. If I kidney punched someone, they would be on the ground. And to the point about they would know it, well, I mean, they're saying they do. They do know it. He's not on the ground, but he said it hurt a lot. It still hurt. And I shouldn't say that it's giving McCarthy too much credit for taking any aggression into his own hands because popping a guy in the back when he's not looking, come on, not an honorable way to settle your dispute with the hateful leader McCarthy, or former leader McCarthy, if that's what happened. But what a ridiculous state of affairs that only got more ridiculous in another hearing, Ryan. So there's an oversight committee hearing. James Comer starts out attacking Dan Goldman as a trust fund baby, which is fair. No lies detected there. Sounds like he's been reading your Twitter. There you go. And then he goes on. Let's just roll this one. You and Goldman, who is Mr. Trust Fund, continue to reclaim.

No, I'm not going to give you your time back. We can stop the clock. You all continue to you look like a smurf here, just going around and all this stuff. Mr. Chairman, you have. And so we fact-checked this claim of him looking like a Smurf. We can roll this. If you're watching, I mean, if you're not watching and you're listening, he's got a Smurf outfit on, kind of bright blue. This is Jared Moskowitz. Bright blue from head to toe.

Fact-check true? Fact-check true. I feel confident. Fact-check rude and true. Yeah, the CounterPoints is able to verify the claims of Chairman Comer. Jared Moskowitz looks like a smurf. He was probably also right in whatever that dispute was over. Oh, they were fighting about Comer's allegations about some.

Hunter Biden. Right, yes. And they were going back and forth. Comer getting over his skis again on saying that he can prove more than he can actually prove. Well, they're making allegations about Comer's own family deals, and Comer sort of went off after that. That's right, because he thought he had a smoking gun because there was a check from James Biden to Joe Biden. And they're like, look, $200,000 moving. And the Bidens are like, look, he lent

him money and he paid him back. This is what families do. And oh, it turns out that Comer's family has done the exact same thing. I do, in this case, agree with Comer that the pattern of how that money moved is really specific. It's not definitive or conclusive because short of having a confession, nothing would be. But actually, when the money was transferred, when- The timing lines up. The timing lines up. With the Republican theory of the case here.

And the amount of money. Yeah, absolutely. So if Democrats want to deflect to James Comer, instead of dealing with the question of Hunter Biden, by all means, go for it. We'll talk about who looks more like a Smurf. We'll talk about if someone did pop someone in the kidney. We'll continue to get to the bottom of these important questions if these are the important questions they choose to focus on. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast hell and gone, I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've received hundreds of messages from people across the country begging for help with unsolved murders. I was calling about the murder of my husband at the cold case. They've never found her and it haunts me to this day. The murderer is still out there. Every week on Hell and Gone Murder Line, I dig into a new case,

bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator to ask the questions no one else is asking. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Hell and Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145. Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche

into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Congress. Viewers also tend to move on elsewhere. So this time, let's try to keep people in

suspense. Did they actually end the shutdown yesterday or not? And I would say also, they didn't actually do the business. And this is going to be the line that you have of legislation. This is the line you're going to hear from Freedom Caucus people, I think rightfully so, because they're punting on the question of how they should be funding the government. And so, yes, right. And we can leave people in some suspense. We can put the first element up on the screen here, because this happened before the decision was made yesterday. It was Tuesday morning, right? Yeah. So Dems prepare to save another GOP speaker from a shutdown. So did Dems save another GOP speaker from a shutdown?

Let's take you along for the ride. Here's a soundbite from Chip Roy yesterday afternoon. I oppose the continual resolution, the so-called extension of funding, which will continue the Nancy Pelosi spending levels, the Nancy Pelosi policy priorities, which you saw Congresswoman Jayapal, the head of the Progressive Caucus, out applauding the fact that we're going to continue to spend at 2023 levels. That is the $1.7 trillion omnibus bill that Republicans roundly opposed last year. And now we have all of the credible evidence with Moody's last week threatening the downgrade with respect to the outlook, where we're seeing in terms of the Treasury auction last week, which was absolutely abysmal,

because we know that under this administration, we've raised interest rates some 500 basis points. And for every 100 basis points, every one percentage, you get about $180 billion of additional interest expense. We are cratering our economy by spending ourselves into oblivion, and we should stop that. Republicans ran on cutting spending, and we're going to continue to kick the can down the road. Now, look, I applaud not having, you know, the speaker's position of not having an omnibus bill before Christmas. But, you know, the best way to do that is just tell Schumer, no, you don't have to have some magic tricks to do that. Just tell Schumer, no, you're not going to have an omnibus before Christmas. Instead of doing this bill where we kick it down to January and we pile the farm bill on top of it and spend five hundred billion dollars, about four hundred billion billion, sorry,

by January to continue to rack up debt. I think it's a mistake. And so let's follow up with that actual clip of Pramila Jayapal applauding the deal that Mike Johnson was pushing yesterday. And the deal basically is Mike Johnson split government funding in two. One of the spending bills would expire at the end of January, around mid to end of January. The other expires in February. And so with that gimmick, you kind of say, hey, I'm doing something as the new speaker. What do you guys think of this? Keeping spending levels where they are. Here's what Jayapal, Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair, said

about this. Look, I think two of the big things that we wanted are in this bill. I mean, it is a big win that it is 2023 levels, that is what we've said from the very beginning, and that it doesn't contain any poison pills. And so I think those are very significant wins for us. I have had concerns about dividing up the continuing resolution into two and separating it. To me, that makes no sense. I think the only reason Speaker Johnson is doing this is because he needs to give a bone to the Freedom Caucus. I worry that it's two fiscal cliffs, but I think we're going to have to weigh the fact that the Senate seems to have not acted. And so I think it's a very big win that it's 2023 levels and nothing else. So to pick up on Ryan's point, so this is from Reuters. The legislation would extend funding for military construction, veterans benefit, transportation, housing, urban development, agriculture, the FDA, and energy and water Programs through January 19th, funding for all other federal operations, and that includes

defense, then expires on February 2nd. And so this is Mike Johnson's, as some people were saying, innovation, is that he laddered the CERs or tiered them. And Jayapal said there, she thinks that was the bone to the Freedom Caucus. And the Freedom Caucus, love that clip of Jayapal, I guarantee you, because it says, it hands to them their argument on a silver platter that Mike Johnson just made a deal with Democrats, essentially. And the vote yesterday, Ryan, here comes the spoiler, we can put the next element up on the screen. They passed it. And in fact, the vote reflected

the Freedom Caucus argument that this was a deal with Democrats. More Democrats ended up voting for it than Republicans did. And it's now headed to the Senate where it has to be passed by, I believe, Saturday. The Senate has to pass this bill by Saturday. It is going to be tough with certain senators. How this ends up happening, I don't know. I think probably they'll get to the votes. But to the point about poison pills, Republicans wanted to tie this to a lot of different things. The border. They wanted to tie it to, they figured they could tie it to different things. Basically, the farm bill got rubber stamped yesterday.

I mean, a huge piece of federal spending got rubber stamped yesterday for another year because they couldn't get to a deal on it. That in and of itself is a huge piece of news because Washington fusses over the farm bill for a year basically before it's set to be reauthorized. The think tanks have a field day. Everyone's trying to figure out where they can get their little goodies because it's so much money. It was rubber-stamped for the next year yesterday. And so 93 Republicans voted no on Speaker Mike Johnson's plan here, and only two Democrats voted against it. So the Republican Party split basically roughly down the middle. Democrats overwhelmingly supported this, like whatever.

Now it doesn't have funding for Israel. It doesn't have funding for Ukraine. So the Democrats and McConnell had been hoping that they would use the specter of a government shutdown to get both Ukraine and Israel funding through. Now it seems like they're going to have to use the specter of there not being enough Israel funding in order to get the Ukraine funding through as well. Or wait until January, February to lavish money on these clients. Yeah, I think that's exactly where we stand right now. And the point is a good one that, okay, so to avoid the Christmas shutdown, which Congress hates for personal reasons, let's be real. Nobody likes it because it doesn't make anybody feel good about their country going into the holidays. It's not fun for staff. It's not fun for Congress people. And it's definitely not fun for the public either to watch the country, you know, seem to be in shambles. But that's, you know, again,

the Republicans just are boxed in. Mike Johnson is boxed in. The Freedom Caucus, what they would have wanted is some, as Jayapal would put it, poison pill. There's nothing in here about the IRS. There's nothing in here about the border. And that to them is, there's nothing, even though there's no Ukraine or Israel in it, that this has been sort of disentangled for now. We'll see what the Senate has to say about that. It's saying we control the House. Voters elected us to control the House and you're going to pass a spending bill with Democrats. Well, from Mike Johnson's vantage point, there's a one-person motion to vacate that Matt Gaetz used and the quote hateful it used, spent weeks tied up just trying to figure out

who the speaker would be. That's why they're on the crunch time. That's why they don't have time to talk about the farm bill. That's why they don't have time to find a deal on the farm bill. That's why they didn't have any time to find consensus. Even if they had more time, it would almost be impossible to come to any consensus on this anyway because of the one-person motion to vacate being used. And just really, it's the numbers. There's just Mike Johnson's numbers game that he has to play unless he wants a government shutdown, which people in the Freedom Caucus say is fine, that Republicans would be fine. Let Chuck Schumer shut down the government. Let Joe Biden shut down the government, even though, of course, the media is never going to take that argument and give it to the American people. You're stuck. They're stuck. So that brings us to our next segment. So while it looks like we're

not going to have a government shutdown at least until January or February, or maybe a half government shutdown January, the other half in February, we put this element up here. The Goldilocks soft landing that the Fed has been talking about appears to be actually getting closer to reality. Yesterday, the market boomed on inflation data that showed no change in prices from month to month, which is the first time that that has happened in the last, you know, basically since we started getting inflation, what, 18, 19 months ago. And so for the regular consumer, they don't want to see prices stay where they are. They want to see prices come down. Now, be careful what you wish for.

Deflation can have some far more corrosive effects sometimes than inflation because you start to see, because the system is not built to work in reverse and you will start to see, because the system is not built to work in reverse, and you will start to see job losses like you haven't seen since 2008. You could have maybe some very gentle deflation for a little while, but not for long. It just throws everything added to people's optimism. And when I say people, I'm talking about like bond traders and like money people. Their optimism. Bond traders are people too. Bond traders are people too. Their optimism that there wouldn't be further interest rate hikes by the Federal Reserve. Do you think there are any political implications of this? Or do you

think that the idea that the economy is worse for many people is so baked in that that's just is what it is at this point? Yeah, I mean, I think the Biden administration, actually, we have a clip of Karine Jean-Pierre kind of getting pressed on so-called Bidenomics that we might as well actually just roll right now as we're talking about this. Let's roll the next clip here. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep going. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna keep, go ahead. Thanks Karine. Meta platform said that it's going to require advertisers.

Karine Jean-Pierre, not really wanting to get into the question of is Bidenomics working because they rolled out that term Bidenomics ahead of 2024. And I've noticed it's kind of falling flat, falls flat with people who are on the left, falls flat with independents, falls flat with people on the right. Does really well with the key Krugman demographic. Paul Krugman loves it. He said it makes no sense. Consumers are crazy to say the economy isn't working for them. Bidenomics is doing just fine. I'm paraphrasing him there. I don't even know if he's used the word Bidenomics, but basically the economy is doing all right. The other political question here is obviously the Fed. And that one, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what even Biden wants the Fed to do at this point. There was a poll recently that said that the public wanted Biden to focus more on inflation and they felt like Biden was focused more on jobs and unemployment. And I think what people need to remember is that if you're under the age of between 30 and 35, you didn't, let's just say

under 30, if you graduated in 2015, graduated college, say 2015, 2016, you have experienced economic growth and shrinking unemployment every year basically except for that weird pandemic year but then you had so much kind of federal stimulus pumped in that for the last 10 years so yeah if you're if you're early 30s you you don't know what it's like to be in an economy that has a 10 unemployment rate. And the way that that can crush the soul of not just every individual who experiences that unemployment, crush the soul of the entire country,

which turns in on itself and completely drains the labor force of its strength and of its militancy. Like this, all of the gains that we're seeing from unions are undergirded and would not be happening without the unemployment rate being what it is now, 3.9%. Because if you push back against your boss and you say, yeah, you know what?

I am interested in forming a union. And you get fired, you can go get another job. And so I get it. People, like, things are more expensive. Like, it sucks. That part of it sucks. The housing and rent situation is a complete catastrophe. But I think people have forgotten.

I'm glad they've forgotten, but it's leading to, I think, taking for granted the idea of being in a tight economy where you can get a job if you need one. Have you watched Dumb Money yet? The Hollywood take on the GameStop situation? No. Is it good? It's very, very good. And one of the characters in it explains actually how the recession in 08 affected her family.

She's in college at the time of the GameStop situation and actually ends up gambling on the stock to pay for her student loan debt. And so I think for people who are in, frankly, my age, that are in their early 30s and maybe graduated college around the time period you said or have graduated college recently, they have in the last couple of years been yanked around on the student debt question to a point that is just untenable. I think part of that is why credit card delinquencies are going up because people don't know where their money is going to go. And so I think the kind of Krugman take on the economy that we've seen,

not just from him, but from other sort of professional economists, misses that, for example, if you're in California, what you're paying for gas is insane. And if you happen to be in your early 30s, what you've been for gas is insane. And if you happen to be in your early 30s, what you've been dealing with in student loans in the last couple of years is also crazy. It's so uneven. Things feel really uneven to people. You're experiencing it in different ways at different times for different reasons. Yeah. And it's great that people are employed at the same time. Like you said, if your money has run out by like the 20th of every month and you're spending every month, the last week and a half of that,

moving things around and just holding your breath, you know, waiting to get to the next month. And then as soon as the next month comes, your rent or your mortgage is due. So you're pushing that back. Like if that's how you're constantly living and that describes tens of millions of people, if not even more, then I understand why there's so much hostility around it. But at the same time, unemployment under 4% was previously thought impossible. Economists came up with a term called natural rate of unemployment, NARU, which they were guessing was 5% or 6%.

They completely made this phenomenon up. There's nothing natural about it. An economy is a construction of a society. It doesn't come from the earth or something. Well, we also have the highest level of working- age men out of the workforce that we've had since like the 1960s. That is another part of the economy that I think feels pretty awful to people too, that there are some people who don't even feel like it's worth it

to look for work anymore. And so when we have low unemployment, that high level, Nick Ebersatt has done, an economist, he's done work on that question of working-age men outside of the workforce. That question of just abject misery is another good one that I think when you're trying to figure out this picture of how low levels of unemployment are translating into these questions of is the economy working for us? Is the president doing enough for us? I feel like that's another important part of it. It just does not get talked about enough at all. Although even the labor force participation rate is doing better than it was. A lot of women back in the workforce. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. There's a lot of bleakness out there. There's also a lot of things that are going much better than they used to be. And what's interesting is that if you take any particular economic indicator and say this is why people are feeling hurt and then you roll it back 10-15 years you find that the economic indicator was worse back then yet people felt better about it and I think a lot of that has to do with debt people have around you know student debt the the cumulative price increase and also the inability to find sustainable housing. Plus, fears about the future, I think, fit into a lot of this. So

it's an interesting moment where we have people in misery, feeling miserable, yet also many of the economic indicators better than they've been in a lot of people's lifetimes. Yeah. And I just think to close the loop on this, especially since this is our last show before Thanksgiving and people are preparing for Thanksgiving meals next week, there was an American Farm Bureau Federation analysis of Thanksgiving dinner prices that I saw on Axios this morning. I'm looking at it now. This is what's really interesting. It is down in total, they sort of put together their standard package of a Thanksgiving meal,

down in total compared to last year. That is still up 25% compared to 2019, which is really interesting because it gets to the Reagan re-election line. Ask yourself, are you better off than you were four years ago? And politicians, whether they're Democrats or Republicans, always want to be able to ask some version of that question. And for the suburban moms that the Biden campaign really wants to win back, we're the ones that do a lot of grocery shopping and cooking and are looking at some food prices where, as Matt Stoller would accurately argue, there's a lot of consolidation and supply chain issues post-COVID that are still real.

And that weren't the fault of Joe Biden. They were the fault of the COVID economy. They're the fault of a worldwide pandemic. Some of that is still trickling into prices. And that 2019 comparison on foodstuffs, things like milk still, that's, I think, when you're, it's hitting people's pocketbook in one of the more visible ways, just the ways that they feed their family. And that is unfortunate for the Biden administration and something they're going to have to, I think, answer for in the next year. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

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So Marjorie Taylor Greene, and we can put the first element up on the screen for this one. Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to send a vote to impeach Mayorkas to the floor yesterday. So I'm reading here from the Associated Press. The House voted Monday to push off, or this happened on Monday, to push off a Republican effort to impeach Mayorkas, ending for now a threat against the cabinet secretary that has been brewing ever since Republicans took the House majority in January. Marjorie Taylor Greene forced a vote, she forced the vote, Ryan, on impeaching Mayorkas to the floor through a rule that allows any single member to force a snap vote on resolutions, including constitutional matters such as impeachment. Eight Republicans joined with Democrats to vote 209 to 201 to send her resolution to committees

for possible consideration. Like any other bill, they are under no obligation to do anything. Greene then takes to the floor and accuses Mayorkas of, quote, a pattern of conduct that is incompatible with the laws of the U.S. And she cited, as the AP says, record numbers of illegal border crossings and influx of drugs and, quote, his open border policies. She then went off on Republicans yesterday. We can put the next element up on the screen. This is a tweet, not at Daryl Issa,

but about Daryl Issa from Marjorie Taylor Greene. Daryl Issa is right. I am a hardworking member of Congress who puts the American people first, Greene tweeted. But we all know what Daryl Issa lacks, dot, dot, dot. And then there's an emoji of a football, an emoji of a basketball, an emoji of a baseball, an emoji of a tennis ball, and even, Ryan, an emoji of an eight ball, which you initially took a second to get. I was like, what's going on? I wasn't, in my defense, I was, I guess I wasn't entirely focused on her post, so I didn't absorb it. But I'm like, what's going on? I wasn't, in my defense, I guess I wasn't entirely focused on her post, so I didn't absorb it.

I'm like, what's going on at the bottom there? You had it in your coffee yet either. Yeah, why is the tennis ball green? Yeah, yeah. Why is the tennis ball green? Oh, you think it should be yellow. I guess yellow doesn't show up very well. Yeah, the emoji is.

Isn't the emoji always green? I guess, but I guess I've never used a tennis ball emoji before. Surprising for a middle-aged white man. I know. How about that? Yeah. How about that? Didn't even know there was one. Of course there is, though. But actually, in all seriousness, we do have border numbers, and it makes sense. So the reason that I think this is fairly important news, is that CBP released data yesterday saying that it apprehended nearly a quarter of a million people at the U.S.-Mexico border in October. So a quarter

of a million people. That's actually a decrease from September's numbers. And that's how a lot of the media ran with the story. So illegal border crossings into the U.S. drop in October after a three-month streak of increases, again, from the Associated Press. Still, it's actually a record high for all Octobers in history. That might be the headline, other than they decrease a record high for October9,735 apprehensions. That means more than 2.47 million on the year. So now that's about two and a half million for the year. That's also broke the number for the record of migrants attempting who are on the government's terror watch list in September, which is in the entire context of what's happening in the Middle East as well. Indian migrants.

There was a story in, I think it was the New York Times, about how there's surging numbers of people coming from all over the world, desperate people who may not qualify technically under our asylum laws. And maybe we should change those asylum laws. But people who are going to be in limbo for the next couple of years waiting for those asylum laws and may end up having to go home after their case actually makes its way through the court system. Or maybe their case never will make its way through the court system and they will have these sort of shadow existences that are very sad and difficult in sanctuary cities, actually like the one that Xi Jinping is visiting

today, Ryan. So Republicans really did want to go after Mayorkas. They thought that maybe still people, if you talk to people in Freedom Caucus circles, still wish that instead of a Biden impeachment, the House had focused all of its political might on a Mayorkas impeachment because what's happening at the border is something that you can really persuade independents with and something that you can really persuade the Republican base and centrist Democrats with in a way that you can't with Hunter Biden, in a way that you can't with sort of that back and forth and lawfare over subpoenas and whatever else. And I mean, I think the bottom line is that you have a quarter of a million people every month now being caught in our political crisis. I just don't quite get why impeaching Mayorkas is the thing that they're focused on

rather than putting, well, I'm about to answer my own question, rather than putting forward their own solution legislatively and then kind of forcing the question there. They did pass it. I mean, they passed, I think it's HR2 and then put it into, that was one of the poison zones that Pramila Jayapal was talking about. But it is, then it goes to Chuck Schumer, and Chuck Schumer says, the House knows that this is a non-starter. And it was a non-starter from his perspective because, you know, basically Democrats have a really hard time getting around any changes to asylum law. And that is like really the one thing that has to be confronted. And obviously, we may disagree on what that is, but Democrats, that is their non-starter, is starting to have this conversation about asylum law.

And impeaching a cabinet official just seems kind of like a funny concept to me because, what do you think, he's rogue and Biden is telling him to do one thing and he's out doing something different. So you get Mayorkas out, there's still going to be a Biden cabinet secretary who's running the Department of Homeland Security. So what do you do? You impeach him the first day. also you need two-thirds in the Senate, which obviously it won't even get a floor vote in the Senate, let alone get anywhere near the two-thirds that would be needed. So it's a way to highlight the question, you know, elevate the issue. Yeah, 100%. And Darrell Issa said, quote, the history, he said that Marjorie Taylor Greene lacked the maturity and the experience to understand what she was asking for.

And the reason for that, I think, is this question of privileged resolutions, the force the vote type of resolution, which he says they're brought by the majority leader or the minority leader. Privileged resolutions have not historically been brought by one member. When they do come from one member, they're most often referred to committee as it was yesterday. When they do come from one member, they're most often referred to committee as it was yesterday So Marjorie Taylor Greene didn't you did not have a support of her own party to do this not even from people I think who are substantively on her side of the question and that's

Interesting because Darryl Issa and you've covered this longer than I have is right about the history of the privilege resolution Yeah about forcing the vote. Yeah, you're not, yes, yeah, he's right, yeah. And she needs Kevin McCarthy back in there who could tell her, like, how this works. Coach her. Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, she's not wrong that her base doesn't give a damn about Daryl Issa on the history of privilege resolutions. Yeah. Like, the average Republican voter, let alone the average Republican voter in her district, Daryl Issa would tell them that, they'd be like, yeah, so what, drain therain the swamp. We have a quarter of a million people coming over every month, and you're talking to me about the history of, quote, privileged resolutions and parliamentary procedure. Wouldn't really make a difference, but it does make a difference in Congress

when you're trying to make actual law. It does make a difference how you relate to your colleagues and how you're able to use the various parliamentary mechanisms. And this was an L for Marjorie Taylor Greene, although I think probably a W in the public relations from her goals. That's kind of the – that's the M.O., right? 100%. Yeah. 100%. All right.

Well, that'll do it for us today. Let me finish with a plug. If you haven't picked up your copy yet of The Squad, AOC in the Hope of a Political Revolution. It's kind of a sequel to my last one, We've Got People. If you like that, you'll like this one. If you didn't read that, you don't have to. It's still, you don't have to. He's not going to check.

It stands on its own. It's a sequel, but you can just jump in. Can you just jump into the Marvel movies if you've never seen the other ones? Or do you kind of need to start from the beginning? You're not asking the right person. Okay, neither of us. I mean, I deal with the Marvel movies if you've never seen the other ones, or do you kind of need to start from the beginning? You're not asking the right person. Okay, neither of us have any idea which I'm on with the Marvel movies. Esk Sager. But no, I've heard great things about the book. I'm excited to read it. It's out December 5th? Out December 5th. Kristen and I will be at Politics and Prose November 27th if you're in D.C. I'll have some other events elsewhere that I can talk

to you guys about soon. Can I come and heckle? Absolutely. Excellent. Excellent. I'm sure there's all kinds of great stuff about the squad, so I'm excited to crack it open. We won't be here next week because of Thanksgiving. Reminder though, a week from today is the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. So another thing that we'll certainly be thinking about in the week to come. There's a Paramount Plus documentary that I really want to watch that has apparently seven of the operating room doctors changing their story about what happened. Actually, it's an entrance wound, not an exit wound.

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