Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 12/9/25: Pro-Israel Billionaire CNN Takeover, Trump Bans State AI Regulation, Glenn Beck Interviews Washington

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Krystal and Saagar discuss Pro-Israel billionaire attempting a CNN take over, Trump to ban state AI regulation, Glenn Beck interviews Washington.     To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Because it means people are interested. They want to know what the hell is going on. and then Election Day was our second most, obviously, listened to. I mean, it makes sense, but it's also, it is a testament, I think, to all of you. You know, it's not drama or any of that, like any nonsense. It's like cold hard, like, what's actually going on? Help me make sense to the world. Wait, Butler was last year.

This year wasn't the day after Charlie Kirk assassination? Oh, well, no, it was, so I thought about 2024. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's 2025. Time flies. I think you told me. Are we keeping this in?

I think, yeah. Let's keep it in. I think he told me that the day after the Charlie Kirk assassination was, yeah. Cold medicine does a little bit of a number. All right. All right. I guess we'll keep it. We'll keep it. We'll keep it. All right. Okay. Okay. So that means everything I say today, I got a grain of solve for. Okay. All right. Let's go. Let's go to Paramount. All right. All right. I like it. All right. Let's get to Paramount. All right. This is by far some of the biggest political news. And the reason why is this is a perfect intersection, in my opinion, of. oligarchy, of markets, of Trump, of corruption, of also, though, control over almost everything that we see in mass media culture. So for all the talk we just had about YouTube and one billion views over here, and a burgeoning, independent, non-connected media, the truth is, is that America is still largely ruled by a couple of major media companies. And those media companies are in a mass

scramble now to consolidate and to control even more of what you see. This is now coming to to head with this new merger war between Netflix making a bid for Warner Brothers Discovery, which would give them Warner Brothers Studio, would give them CNN control of a vast array of streaming assets, and now Paramount led by David Ellison, the Zionist billionaire, who is much more, I guess, Trump-friendly is one way to put it, making a hostile bid for the company. Here is Donald Trump being asked specifically about who he would side with in this merger deal, which coincidentally in Paramount includes foreign Qatari-Satari. Saudi money, as well as Jared Kushner.

Here is Donald Trump in his reaction. Let's take a listen. Do you support the Paramount bid for one of brothers that came to this morning? I don't know enough about it. You spoke about Netflix last night saying you have concerns about them. I know the company's very well. I know what they're doing, but I have to see. I have to see what percentage of market they have.

We have to see the Netflix percentage of market, Paramount, the percentage of market. I mean, none of them are particularly great friends in mind. Yeah, I want to do what's right. It's so very important to do what's right. If Paramount is supported by Jared Kushner, Mr. President, would that impact your decision? If Paramount is? I don't know. I've never spoken to him about it. Never spoken to him about it, even though he is, of course, not only the president's son-in-law actively working with the president on Gaza. I love him, too, saying, like, oh, none of them are really particularly great friends of mine.

And not only Ellison, Netflix, they also, you know, came and met and trying to kiss the ring. Like, they know how the game is played, too. So they're all sucking up to Donald Trump. And we should, I guess, explain why does Trump even matter in any of this? It's because any merger has to be approved by the United States government at a scale of this size. I mean, it's not just, you know, a couple of, it's not like two small local businesses combining. We're talking about a vast array of multimedia assets, which no one really ever believed would be consolidated. into a single company. It's hugely consequential, business-wise, but I really think culture-wise,

and that's why we have to pay so much attention to all of this. Let's go to the next part here exactly and explain some of the foreign money that's behind this deal. Can we put the next element on the screen? So Paramount's bid for WB is actually backed in part by some $24 billion from Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds, a billion dollars from China's 10.10, if you're not familiar, one of the largest media companies in all of China. And then you also have Jared Kushner's private equity firm. Now, you may ask, because what are they going to get from this? Go to the next part, please, just so I can explain a little bit. They say that the financing sources are $11.8 billion combined from the Ellison family, in aggregate $24 billion from sovereign wealth funds

of the Gulf, and a billion from Tencent and commitments from Redbird Capital Partners and Affinity partners. Now, the thing is, is that all of these partners have said that they are prepared to execute agreements which would give them equity, but not give them board or voting membership seats. Now, you may ask then, well, what is in it for them? Now, this is the same strategy of Saudi Arabian foreign capital trying to roll up American culture. So we've talked about the video game industry, EA sports. Now, for example, live golf. Like what they're trying to do, I mean, it's classic, not just sports watching. I would really call it culture watching at this point. If you control enough of the media, it doesn't really matter whether you have individual board

memberships on what is going to be done here and there. It's about having skin in the game to the point where nobody can criticize you. This is, you know, also remember the Riyadh Comedy Festival. It's all part of the same concerted strategy. You've got Saudi Arabia now trying to roll up boxing, the UAE taking a significant role in, what is it, in UFC. They're doing all of this because they have endless amounts of cash and they want to control what Americans' eyes are completely focused on. They can't control YouTube. It's too dispersed. Right now, YouTube and Google have its own problems. So what that means is you take the rest of American culture and you put it all together.

So you have NFL, sports media, you've got the video games, and now you have potentially CNN. You have Warner Brothers. I mean, Warner Brothers Studio is probably the number one premiere studio in the nation. Like if you look at the Golden Globe nominations, some of the best movies in the world all come from Warner Brothers. HBO remains absolutely undefeated on premium content, although Apple TV is. currently giving them a little bit run for their money, but they don't have the same number

of hit rate. So that's why it's so important. This is about culture. This is about buying a stake in our culture. And that is the bottom line for why Paramount, who is, look, I mean, it's not me. This isn't slanderous or defamatory. Like, they openly have said, and it's been reported in the past, they're very committed to promoting, you know, anti-Semitism, aka kind of like Zionist, pro-Israel interest. That's why they bought CBS News. And that's some of the things that's now coming out. Let's put A9 up here on the screen. It's huge news of last night from the Wall Street Journal, quote, behind Paramount's relentless campaign to woo Warner Brothers and President Trump, quote, during a December visit to Washington, David Ellison offered assurances to the Trump

administration that if he bought Warner Brothers, he would make sweeping changes to CNN, a common target of Trump's ire. And people familiar with the matter, Trump has told people close to him, he wants a new ownership of CNN as well as changes to CNN programming. So this is about media, this is about culture. This is all coming together. And it's in one of the most naked corrupt lobbying campaigns I have ever seen here in the history of Washington, between Netflix and Paramount. Every aspect of it is so incredibly dirty. And, you know, every piece of this would be a gigantic scandal in any other administration.

And obviously, it is getting scrutiny both from a business perspective and from a political perspective as well. But, you know, in a previous administration, it would have been seen as inappropriate for the president to be directly way. in and picking and choosing and for them to be going and, you know, paying homage to him and promising, oh, we're going to make CNN give you the coverage that you've always wanted. I mean, but with Trump, you just accept it's part for the course that, of course, he's going to be nakedly corrupt. Of course he's going to seize as much control. He's going to use this moment to seize as much control of these media properties as he

possibly can because this is a man who genuinely, I think in his heart believes it should be illegal to criticize him. I mean, he has openly said that. He has openly said things similar to that. He thinks that that is wrong. He has had increasing outbursts against reporters, especially female reporters, for asking him questions. Quiet Piggy comes to mine. He had another outburst yesterday, called someone obnoxious, et cetera. He thinks that is out of bounds. He thinks he should be treated like a king and praised. And he loves when these, you know, sycophants come in and say, ask a question, oh, Mr. Trump, you know, tell me how wonderful you are. That's what he wants the media to be. So there's that aspect. Obviously, there's the personal entanglement with Jared Kushner being

involved here, not to mention being close with the Ellisons and them being overt Trump supporters, not to mention their ideological inclinations towards Israel. Then you add in the foreign money, and this is just absolutely insane. You know, in terms of how Democrats are looking at this, it's a little bit scattered. I mean, in my opinion, both of these deals are terrible. You know, from an antitrust perspective, I think both are extraordinarily bad for Hollywood. You know, the Netflix deal, it, like, we should not fool ourselves into thinking that those executives are going to be impartial either. They are also, according to Trump, they are also going to want to stay on his good side. And then you have this streaming giant that is now merged with this, you know, Hollywood studio and very likely to completely undercut, you know, any new theatrical releases, even though they're, they're making noises.

Oh, no, that wouldn't be the case. Anyway, it's an anti-competitive nightmare with that one. This one, same thing. I mean, these giant media companies already have so much consolidation in this space, so little choice, so little competition in the space in a way that is only bad for consumers and only bad for art as well. You know, this is really like, speaks to the state of the American economy that so few industries are actually about, like, creating the best product to appeal to people or to advance the art or whatever it is, whatever space that they're into. It's all about this financial engineering and rigging and trying to get monopoly power so that people,

have no other choice. Both of these deals fall in that category. But for Democrats, you know, some people like, you know, the neurotanans of the world are looking through this through a purely partisan lens, don't have so much of a power lens. You're saying, well, Netflix isn't as closely aligned with Trump. So we like this one better. You know, I mean, I guess you can make that judgment. But in reality, both of these deals are really, really bad for Hollywood, for the movie industry. And that is why you've got, you know, the Writers Guild and others who are speaking out against the Netflix deal as well as this. I'm going to say, yeah, not every, and we're going to talk about this with the whole Jasmine

Crockett thing. Like, not everything should be about Trump. Like, not everything is just about Trump. Trump is a huge part of this story. But in the aggregate, if you had told me Netflix wants to buy WBD, I would be like, hell no, keep it the hell away. Why? It's all bad. Yeah, Netflix, I remember I was telling you yesterday, go on the top 10 shows for, it's literal garbage, all right? Like, it's absolute slop. They might as well be using AI to write the latest. Yeah, right. I know you're a K-pop team understand. Look, every once in a while, they crank out something good.

But for everyone, there's like My Secret Santa, which is like some C-tier rom-com, which would never have even gone to theaters back in the mid-2000s. And, of course, it's always number one. They just pump this crap out there to keep people on the Netflix algorithm continually just watching as much as they can. Every once in a while, they get a decent enough show and or movie,

but it's nothing compared to the original. work going on at Warner Brothers, at HBO, and if they get their grubby fingers into the HBO machine, I mean, it's a nightmare for people who enjoy premium and good content. So let's continue then on down the line. Let's go to the next one. I feel like it's like another war on our humanity. I totally agree. Well, it's about, look, America is, you know, what makes it great at this point. Like, we don't really make very much. You know, we have a decent service-based economy. And if you ask any president, I had an interesting conversation once with a ex-secretary of state, and I was like, in your opinion, what is the most powerful export of the United States?

And he said movies, like, no question. And this wasn't me prompting him. I was like, what do you think is the literal most powerful export of the United States? He said movies and culture. It's television shows, right? It's a beacon, literally, of culture across the globe. Now, Netflix and all that has flattened it a little bit. So you have Squid Game or Parasite, you know, movies like that that pop up around the world. I'm all for that. I think it's cool to see other countries. but by and large, like, we dominate this industry, and it's a global powerhouse of creativity, of individuality, it's inspiration, you know, like all the platitudes, but they're true. And so to see it become overtly, not just financialized, but like, that's the Netflix model, is keep

people watching no matter how shitty the content is. And that's just not how it used to be. Like, if we want to save the movies, which I do, I would love to save box office, premium theater experience. Netflix is the very last company that you would ever want to trust with that. Now, they claim that they're not going to, but this direct to streaming stuff, like, be honest, it doesn't work, like, for creating true, like, cultural masterpieces and tent pole events, which I understand it's getting more difficult. There are business realities and all of this. But it's not like this is a failing company at the same time, WBD, to the point that they have issues. A lot of it is because of their debt financing, not because they don't actually

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tent pole pieces of American culture even if you don't get a ton of voting or any of that is just effectively like a way to buy cachet and access in the United States of America. And the thing is, is that behind all of this, even if, so if they, the reason why they're saying that they don't have voting on the board is because if they did, it would actually trick, it would trigger something called a Sipheus violation. So Sipheus is about the foreign control. So, you know, for those of you who have ever tracked the whole, like, Chinese farmland thing, how these Chinese companies go in and buy farmland or they buy real estate here in the U.S., a big criticism of the Obama administration is that they allowed these through Sipheus review.

Now, this is basically a backdoor way to get around Sipheus to make sure that there's no foreign scrutiny on the deal. There is no reason China's Tencent should own even a sliver of the largest media conglomerate in the United States. There's no reason that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, you know, any of these Gulf nations, again, should own any of this. They have enough control over our own culture. So this is, again, just part of the paramount strategy, which, and that's why even explaining it sounds crazy. You're like, wait, so a pro-Israel billionaire is uniting with the Gulf Arab states to buy, you know, a movie studio.

It's like, yeah, well, because the Gulf Arab states don't really care that much about Israel or the Palestinians. They, like, make a lot of, you know, no ways of it. They only care because they're popular. Right, exactly, but their governments don't care. They don't care. Yeah, exactly right. Right. No, they would be happy to normalize and do every business deal under the sun and, you know, they don't have any ethical or moral qualms about any of it. No one should fool themselves otherwise. They feel pressure from their populations to, you know, put in provisio, you have to make some noise about a Palestinian state, et cetera, for us to sign on to these

deals. But, you know, this, no, it makes perfect sense. Yes, exactly. All right, let's continue on and put some more stuff on the screen. So let's put A5, like for example, what that will show you is just the amount of properties here that would be controlled by anybody who gets this. But also finally, in terms of giving the game away, is David Ellison, the CEO of Paramount, who is openly talking about his relationship

with the president on this. Let's take a listen. That's A6 guys from CNBC yesterday. Do you sense that he is in your corner here? What I would say is I'm incredibly grateful. grateful for the relations that I have with the president. And I also believe he believes in competition. And when you fundamentally look at the marketplace, allowing the number one streaming service to combine with the number three streaming service is anti-competitive.

Incredibly grateful for relations with the president. And the thing is, is that what David Ellison has been doing over at CBS. Like, again, let's just look at this purely from business. Is CBS doing that much better? Have they done anything remarkable under Ms. Weiss? Barry Weiss, what did she do? That great roundtable with secretary. I've never heard from Condoleezer Rice. Hillary Clinton and Condoleezer Rice. You know what I've been hurting for?

Is more Condoleezer Rice and fucking Hillary Clinton content over there? Thank you, Barry, for these groundbreaking discussion. Or she's like, I want to promote, who was that guy who got into it with the Taunahisi Coates? Oh, yeah. I can never say his last name. Is that his name?

Yeah. Major big pro-Israel guy, right? And they're like, oh, let's make him the new face of CBS News. Yeah. Like, that's all they care about, okay? And that's a funny thing is even that, what Trump does is he gives the game away because 60 Minutes recently just did a interview with Marjorie Taylor Green. Let's put that one up here on the screen.

This is a long tirade from Trump against Marjorie Taylor Green. And what you see in here is he goes on this tirade, but he says, my real problem with the show, however, wasn't the low IQ trader. It was the new ownership of 60 Minutes. Paramount would allow a show like this to air. They are no better than the old ownership who just paid me millions of dollars since they bought it. Sixty minutes has actually gotten worse. Oh, well, far things happen. I demand a complete and a total apology. I mean, what he's basically showing is that the mandate for all of these people is you don't

just have to be like, you know, you don't just have to suck up to him in private. You have to suck up to him on the air. You can't air anything that is remotely critical or you're going to get scrutiny. I mean, this kind of reminds me that whole Jimmy Kimmel thing. We can do this the easy way. or the hard way. Like, it's overt government pressure in terms of content, not in terms of, you know, what's good for the consumer, what's good for America. Like, what's, you know, does this thing make any sense? You can make a monopolistic argument for Netflix, right? And like, hey, you know, everybody pays way too much money for streaming. It's better for one company as owns it. I don't agree with that necessarily. I do think we pay too much for streaming. But I don't think it's a good

thing, you know, broadly for culture. But you can make that argument. That's a legitimate economic argument. But they're not even making that argument, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no. And okay, so think this is why the corporate ownership of the press and the consolidation is such a problem because Trump just comes out and says it and is very direct about it, right? And if you're David Ellison and you want your deal to win out, what are you going to do? What are you going to tell Barry Weiss in terms of her content choices over at CBS? No more Trump criticism. Like, no, you can't have Marjorie Taylor Green on. No, you can't have Thomas Massey on. No, you can't have, you know, whoever he's pissed, Letitia James. Whoever he's pissed off at, no, no more Trump criticism, at least until we get this deal done. And so, you know, with him, it's extremely overt. We, of course, have been warning about the way that corporate pressure can influence things for a long time. You guys recall the whole flap with Bernie Sanders and the Washington Post talking about Bezos's ownership and how that was a problem. And this was a big scandal.

How dare you even suggest that their independence would be compromised, blah, blah, blah. That was, you know, an appearance of compromise. And that comes with like an understanding from the higher ups at the Washington Post about what Bezos would want from them and what areas he wouldn't want them to touch. With Trump, it is just completely direct. It is completely brazen and is completely overt. You know, remember how, look, we covered this at the time too. Like with the Twitter files, it was a genuine scandal that the federal government was not even telling Twitter, oh, you need to censor this or Facebook. You need to censor this. just saying, hey, we found this content and we think that this is wrong and we have a problem with it.

The very understanding that the federal government had taken an interest in that is enough to exert pressure on these social media companies who want their, you know, favorable treatment from the government, don't want to run into any problems, et cetera. Even without the threat being made overt, they all know what the game is. Here you have Trump just completely making it plain, whether it's with Jimmy Kimmel, whether it's this tantrum about Marjorie Taylor, Green interview on 60 Minutes and complaining about all the new ownership is just as bad as the old ownership, whether it's demanding from the Ellicons that if they win out and their deal goes, his deal goes through, that then you are going to change CNN. You're going to change the leadership at CNN. You're going to basically bury Wycify CNN as well. This is a genuine scandal and it is a genuine shift in terms of, you know, the the manner in which the federal

government and the president himself feels the ability to directly coerce media. And of course, we know about all the lawsuits and all of that. And none of these media executives have any sort of character. They care about their money, their profit margins, you know, what their shareholders want from them. That's what they care about. And so they're all going to play the game. And that at its core is the problem with corporate ownership. And with Trump, it is just completely on steroids. You know, in terms of, I just want to give a shout on, of course, to Matt Stoller, who covers the antitrust aspect of this extraordinarily effectively. He doesn't have a piece up yet about the paramount hostile takeover bid.

However, he does have a piece about the problems with the Netflix bid, and we can put this up on the screen. This is A8 from Stoller. He says Netflix is trying to buy Warner Brothers Discovery. That would be a disaster for America. Part of what he says here is Netflix is the number one streamer and would be buying the number three streamer, would also be buying a large and important content library, which would presumably then be unavailable for potential rival streaming services.

A Netflix-Warner merger is a recipe for monopolization would be a pretty straightforward challenge for an antitrust lawyer under the Clayton Act. Judges are always a crapshoot, but the story here is clear and recent analogies work against this deal. Most industries are no longer about making a good product. Really, what they're about is trying to figure out how they can have a monopoly so that they can basically rig the rules and cheat. He thinks that is very possible that the Netflix deal would ultimately.

be blocked in the court system. I think all of that is very political, ultimately. But, you know, the antitrust issues for whether it's Netflix or whether it is paramount are incredibly clear, especially in a landscape where we already have so much corporate consolidation. Yeah. And that's why I don't want to miss the cultural element. I've been hammering at home. And we're talking about sports. We're talking about movies. We're talking about everything together. Again, look at the trajectory of Netflix, where you have had a reduction in good content, an increase in price, add tiers. Are you, is your Netflix experience better today than it was 10 years ago?

Whenever it was cheaper, right? No, it's just not. Like, and that's one where, you know, there's this new term called and shittification, which I really like. And it applies to everything. It's applying to streaming as well, where we pay more and we get less. And it's like, it's one of those where why, you know, why?

And then I guess, again, look, maybe I'm being too romantic, but there are only a few places left in the world where you can actually create good stuff over and over. And HBO and Warner Brothers is one of them. And it's like, please, please don't bring your, you know, the people who run that show, is it cake? I can't have them with their grubby paws over HBO. I can't do it, right? I don't see that over the weekend. I can't have. I can't have. Is it cake? You know, rural America. But that's apparently, that's where everything go. I think honestly, Is It Cake is like a best case scenario because at least there's actual human beings involved.

What we're actually looking at is like the AI slop takeover where it's so cheap to churn it out. It's better. There's already on YouTube, there's these channels that'll just put up like thousands of AI generated music. Like that's where the Charlie Kirk music came from. I'm sure you've seen those. splitting around. I can't sing right. Yeah. Anyway, we are Charlie Kirk. Anyway, there's already channels that do this that is just like so cheap and easy to

turn out this content that they do it and most of it doesn't hit. And then, you know, every once in a while, you get a We Are Charlie Kirk that goes mega viral and that pays for all of it. Like that is the logic that they're going to use as well because they don't give a shit about art. They don't give a shit about creativity. They don't get a shit about like culture or American culture or any of that. It's just about the bottom line.

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Turning now to AI, huge development. here in Washington. Let's go and put this up here on the screen. President Trump says he will now issue an executive order to preempt any state in the United States from passing individual AI regulation. There must be only one rulebook if we are going to continue to lead in AI. We are beating all countries at this point in the race, but that won't last long if we're able to have 50 states, many of them bad actors involved in rules in the approval process. There can be no doubt about this. AI will be destroyed in its infancy. I will be doing a one rule executive order this week. You can't expect a company to get 50 approvals every time they want to do something. That

will never work. And this is part of a huge campaign in Washington over the last couple of days. Let me just zoom out and explain it a little bit. So first of all, he had multiple attempts in the Congress to try and to put this AI preemption in the bill, multiple in the NDAA, which we're going to get to here in a little bit. That actually failed at every level. Individual congressmen and even Republicans who initially had tried to put that in were like, oh, we're getting a lot of constituent pushback on this. And there's actually a lot of red state governors called their delegation. They're like, hey, I don't want this in the bill. So they push that away. The fact they weren't able to get it in the NDAA, an executive order is actually the

worst thing for them because it means it, of course, can be rolled back and it can be a challenge in the court system. So this is kind of a last-ditch effort by the AI companies going to the White House and making their case. You've had multiple visits. Christmas party season is always fun for watchers here in D.C. The number of the big tech guys who have been at the White House over the last few days is crazy. Sergei was here just a couple of days ago.

You had Greg Brockbin at Open AI. You had Jensen. You had Sundar Pichai. You had every player in Sam Altman, every major player has been at the White House in the last 10 days. This is their number one priority. And David Sacks,

who's the White House AI Tsar, has kind of been the spearhead of this. Let's going to put this up here on the screen, this is his explanation, and he's, I guess, the father of the policy, he says, one rulebook for AI, I want to share a few thoughts on AI presumption and address some of the concerns. First of all, this is not AI ammacy or AI moratorium. It's an attempt to settle a question of jurisdiction. When an AI model is developed in state A, training in state B, inference of state C delivered through the internet, that is clearly interstate commerce,

exactly the type of economic activity. The framework is intended to reserve the federal government to regulate. In the absence of preemption, 50 different states will assert their jurisdiction, creating a patchwork of 50 different regulatory regimes. He says, for example, states like Colorado, California, and Illinois have made AI developers liable if their modders contribute to algorithmic discrimination, which is defined as disparate impact. Colorado's list of protected groups includes English language proficiency, so presumably it's against the law for AI models to criticize illegal aliens. This is the type of ideological meddling of how we ended up with, quote, black George Washington. So he's made in a cultural argument that says, only a federal framework can achieve this

goal, the attempts of red states to protect conservatives from bias and discrimination will have limited effectiveness when blue states like California have the most market power and a nexus to AI development. We can't afford any of this. So he says, we will have preemption, but there will still be an application for child safety, for community, for creators, and for censorship. Now, the thing is, though, again, and this is actually kind of the problem, is that they're trying to do this through EO.

worst possible way. Because everything he said is not technically wrong to me. Like, I don't think he's wrong about the interstate commerce. I think that what he's talking about, communities, creator, censorship, an executive order is the worst way to accomplish that. It's not actually the law. And it doesn't mean that we had a full-on debate, a democratic debate in the United States Congress and more to settle some rules around this. Because they're not technically incorrect like we should have federal standards in the same way that we do the internet or any of these things like the child safety act right what we should have is a very specific major debate in this country about these models their effects their liability what you know guardrails that we're going to

have in place what can we all agree on the suicide one is it keeps me up at night because how many people are using this as a mental health proxy we have a loneliness crisis you have 800 million people or whatever using chat ch pt if just one percent of them are crazy that's millions of people and they're using this to assist them you know i'm not saying it's chat gpts fault although you know it gets kind of sketchy whenever you live in countries where there's assisted suicide is legal but they have no qualms it's in the hands of sam olm and that's why ultimately i actually would fall back on state regulation because right now it's wild west and like that's actually again, in the era of exponential growth, and that's everything they tell us is exponential. It's

getting better. It's getting better. And in this time, we do not have time to dilly-dally. Like, the next time that a Congress could potentially solve this issue, or at least some issue, is what, 29? Like, that's an eternity in AI math. Yeah. And in fact, we did have a democratic debate, And that's why legislators realized, oh, people do not want this. They don't want the federal government to preempt all of the states. They actually want the states to be able to have some control here. And I mean, this is the good part of the laboratory of democracy of the 50 different states. They can take different approaches.

They can try to figure this thing out. Who among us has confidence that this government, which is 100% bought and compromised, and shot through with these tech oligarchs is going to do a good job regulating this extraordinarily existentially dangerous technology. Zero people should have confidence in that. The only people who like this direction

are people, frankly, like David Sachs, who have a vested financial interest in pushing in this direction and having no regulation whatsoever. That has been the thrust of this administration from the jump. From the jump, any sort of regulation that was in place

from the Biden administration, which was limited but did exist, that gets rolled back. These guys have gotten everything they wanted. That is why I say the main project, not to say there isn't a lot else going on, that has consequences and it's bad and all the rest, but the main project of this administration is pushing unregulated off to the races, Wild West, AI, and hoping and praying that it isn't a complete fucking disaster. And guess what?

The public is not on board. That's why you couldn't get this through the Congress. That's why you have to do it through an executive order. That's why there's backlash, not just from Democrats who hate you anyway, but from Republicans who are saying, wait a second, we're not comfortable with this either. We're not comfortable with it in the short term. We're not comfortable with it in the long term. No Sam Altman, no David Sachs, no Mark Andreessen, no Peter Thiel.

No, we don't trust you to do this in an ethical and responsible way. that is ultimately going to provide more benefit than harm for the American people. So that is why they have ended up doing this executive order because even people in the Congress, and many of, if not most of them, are getting money from Silicon Valley and are basically bought off by these guys. But even with that landscape, they said, no, we cannot put this in. The backlash and the consequences are too severe. That was actually democracy. And that's why it's so much of a problem, the way that this president has tried to consolidate so much executive power. Of course, he's not the first, but like with everything, he takes it to the next level. And why it's such a

problem that in many instances, the court has allowed him to do that, whether through directly ruling on his executive power grabs or at the Supreme Court, through the shadow docket, where they said, well, we're not going to rule now. But you can go ahead and keep doing what you're doing. And, you know, in this instance, blocking the regulation at the state level and go about your merry way, well, we take our good old time figuring out how we're going to ultimately handle this thing. Yeah, and this is also like a real ideological war. So like for David, I mean, in terms of his, like I like David, he's, you know, I've been friends with him pretty open about this. Him and I have a very different view on AI question. In terms of like his own

financial interest, I actually think he's a libertarian and it kind of always has been. And that's really the fundamental ethos of a lot of the people who are in the White House. Like for example, David, I mean, he's always been kind of a foreign policy dove, but he is majorly behind working with Jensen Wong and NVIDIA right now to loosen a lot of these current restrictions. So, for example, can we put CB7 up here on the screen? This is by far one of the most consequential things on the AI front. And if you put this together with the AI moratorium or the EO, that it totally makes sense. Trump says, I have performed informed President Xi of China and the U.S. will allow NVIDIA to ship its H-200 price.

products to approve customers in China. H-200, one of the more advanced chips in the NVIDIA arsenal, major reasons not to do it, right? Which is basically handing China the one last piece that the U.S. has in terms of our AI competitiveness. Now, the NVIDIA David Sacks argument is that by having them use the chips, they are reliant, they won't create their own. It's not a bad argument, but let's explain a little bit about what that means. In the interim, it means Nvidia gets to keep printing a shit pot of money. And that's good for their stock. Now, again, like in David's kind of more libertarian ideology and all this, one of the things that David has consistently said is we're the backbone of the U.S. economy. And they're not wrong.

Now, I think that that's a bad thing, you know, that's kind of my criticism of the Trump administration is that they're, this jet, this rocket fuel to the AI industry is good for the short term, not good for the long term because of a potential bubble bust going all in with huge amounts of GDP, stock market gains vastly concentrated inside of this. It makes it so that these people are becoming fantastically wealthy, but we all may get fantastically poor if this shit doesn't work out and if it does work out. That's part of the problem. Yes, exactly. Yes. Let me damned if you do and damned if you know. Let me also just show like the red state opposition here, which we previously have mentioned.

Can we put B4 up here on the screen? This is Ron DeSantis. Now, he says, I oppose stripping Florida of our ability to legislate in the best interests of the people, a 10-year AI moratorium ban state regulation of AI,

which prevent Florida from enacting important protections for individuals, children, and families. Now, the reason why I think that's important is to show you very specifically, it's not just like a blue-red issue. This is really about, you know, this question of guard rails.

And again, coming back to this, the belief of the Sacks Andresen crew is, yes, by the way, obviously, especially with the Andresen and some of the other people who are directly invested in this, a lot of this is money. But there are long time little returns. A lot of their genuine belief is that the government will come in. It will stifle the industry. And their claim is that this will benefit the open AIs and all of that of the world. The problem to me with a lot of that argument here is that that because the tail risk socially and societally of this is so high, it would be genuinely irresponsible to say that we shouldn't have an immediate and a compelling interest in doing something about, and I understand, yes, that's going to hurt your venture profits and all that, but that's your problem, not mine, right? And that's not our democratic issue. That's part of the reason why, ultimately, Congress did not pass this. I'm really glad that you said that. They reasoned why, even with all the pressure from the White House, they're like, I don't know about this, is because they were getting huge pushback from their constituents. And what constituents can

feel, I think, correctly is that the benefits to them are not, you know, are not yet as promised, and the costs remain high. So, for example, let's go and put B5 up here. I found this in a financial times investigation about data power. And if you're watching this, I really want you to sit home and look. I mean, it shows you where in parts of the U.S., the gap between new data center demand and spare grid capacity is growing. You can see the gap, look at PJM, right, up there in the top left. Look at the orders of magnitude where the new demand is from the projected capacity in 2030. In almost every grid in the U.S., projected demand is way higher or is higher than what the projected capacity is. And their argument, basically, is that this is a good

thing for the market because the cure for high prices is high prices. This is a long-term libertarian talking point. What they mean by that is that high prices, the grid will take that, they will build out more investment infrastructure. But one of the reason why I thought that the Financial Times piece was so important is if you keep reading the pathway to building these new natural gas power plants and price, it doesn't keep up with that. And that's natural gas. Same, I mean, look, I'm a huge proponent of nuclear reactors. I'm also going to be honest with you, it takes about seven years to get this shit online, right? That's not even close to where that is.

So in the interim, that gap, right, the price gap is going to be very painful for all of us. And again, we have to come to terms with what are we getting from this? Their claim, they look at big productivity numbers and all of that. Like, I fundamentally am just rejecting the fact that AI is not the same as the Industrial Revolution or the railroad. The broad aggregate benefits to the everyday citizen is not even close. And the power laws of wealth broadly flow, you know, into the pockets.

Not just of Silicon Valley, but very specifically, Sam Altman, Microsoft, Google, meta, like the biggest of the biggest. In a lot of ways, these guys are tertiary actors compared to the big five companies that are all the way at the top. They're getting much wealthier. And there's not enough, you know, productivity gain across the entire U.S. I mean, they have a lot of goals with this. But one of the goals is they find it annoying that they have to exist in a society. and ever have to deal with government regulation or any sort of democracy

like trimming their sales. So these guys are always looking for a way to exit. And this is their exit. They're like, if my company wins the AI race, then basically I get to say, what is what I get to run the society? I get to have all the wealth. I don't think we are capable of wrapping our head

around the amount of power that would consolidate in the hands of a very small, number of people like a like you could count them on one or two hands if one of these companies actually achieves super intelligence that they are all racing towards so again this seems like something we should have a massive democratic like small d democratic debate about and take very very seriously they know that there is increasing but that's part of why david sacks is feeling mean to put out some friggin essay length thing and i find it disgusting the way he's trying to use this culture

war framing of like, oh, that's why you got, you know, black George Washington. Like, I'm sorry, I don't give a shit I have black George Washington. You guys are trying to take away everyone's jobs and rip up the entire social contract and do it without us being able to even have a say. You want to make it so there's no regulation in the federal government. You've already accomplished that by and large. And ban states from being able to do it on their own. That is the game here. They want an exit from society. I mean, Peter Thiel and these people, they invest in this like Prospera in Honduras and, you know, they want these like crypto, yeah, cesteading.

They're always looking for a way to not to be basically like God kings. And they think AI is the answer to that. Now, again, they have other goals as well, but that is a big one to keep in mind. So that's what we're talking about here. The power grid thing, I'm sorry, the argument, the libertarian argument that like, oh, high price will lead them to build out, blah, these are monopolies. No, it won't. No, it won't. What's going to happen is high prices are going to lead to high prices. That's what's happening right now. You know, the grid that is the most strained there and the most, you know, where the demand exceeds the grid capacity the most rapidly and by the most extraordinary amount. It's right here. Why? Because Virginia is the epicenter of all of this data center build out. Now, these things are being built all across the country, but in terms of the hot spot, it is in Virginia. For capital, we have the highest. Yeah, I've told 40% of Virginia's energy capacity already goes to these frickin' things.

No one voted for that. No one voted for them to be, for us regular consumers, to be shouldering the cost of that. Not all Republicans are apparently opposed to this direction. Glenn Beck, the very innovative use of AI technology, invented for himself a mini-me, George Washington, to spout back to him. In a T-shirt. In a T-shirt, which is very deeply offensive to Sager. I think it's fair. I think he's very undignified.

This whole thing is very undignified. He's a great man. He doesn't wear a fucking t-shirt. In any case, Glenn Beck created his own AI, George Washington, to feed back to him his own worldview, reflect back to him, his own worldview and talking points. This is so, I don't even know what to say about this. This is a B4B. Let's play it.

George, we have programmed a lot of information and given you a lot of information on what's going on in today's America. Based on your writings, the writings of the rest of the founders, what is it that you feel is the biggest problem or where we should start to fix things? If I may. It's 5.23 p.m. One of your kids is asking for a snack.

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Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank Than a crime Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-rayed vision.

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I do have 29 points, and they're all referenced to exactly what we said in the past. For this, just speak in today's language. Okay, okay. I get it. Let me speak to Americans. If I'm honest, America's biggest problem is in political or economic. It's all moral. You've drifted from the virtues that make liberty possible in the first place. Freedom.

To be free. You have to have discipline. You have to have faith. You have to have character. And if you don't have any of those things, laws. Laws can't stop anything. They mean little. Government turns either weak or oppressive.

You have grown skeptical of truth, you're reckless with debt, you're comfortable blaming instead of building anything, and in my time, we understood that self-governance begins with self-control. Maybe Netflix can pick up AI, George Washington, for their streaming slot moving forward. This is the world that we have now, soccer. Yeah, that's rough. It's a rough one. That's so bad. I don't know. I mean, the T-shirt, yeah. You know, one of the things I actually, this is going to be an ultra-sogger tangent, but it's just one of those things where putting the words that you want into people who are dead for like over 280 years is so offensive always to me. Because here's the thing about historical figures. They are very complicated.

They are nuanced. They were human beings. George Washington, I think he was a great man. It had a lot of flaws. People like to focus just on slavery. But, you know, there was a lot of issues, actually, throughout the entire period in which he was a major figure in American history. I find that actually pretty interesting, you know,

getting ultimately to the point and stepping ultimately down. Who is it? Ron Chernow, in my opinion, the best biography of George Washington. You should go read it, you know, for yourself. You actually, I think you would get a lot more out of it than some boomer slop, which basically, you know, there's always this idea. They're like, they would have agreed with me, right? That's not how historical figures are.

You know, they, for all the greats, there were a lot of, you know, poor. They also had many of them deeply idiosyncratic, insane ideas. But, you know, they were coming from the time that they were in. I was telling you recently about, you know, John Adams, probably my favorite founding father. He wanted, you know, the president, George Washington, to be referred to as like his majesty, the king. Because, but, which ultimately undemocratic. Now, why, right? His argument was, well, we live in a world in which there.

There's all these other kings that'll never respect our guy. If we don't call him a king, it's kind of logical. It doesn't make any sense to me, but, you know, it's an interesting debate. Right. And it also doesn't mean, like, that's a perfect example. If you take him out of that time period and you plop him in today, it's unlikely he's still going to be making the argument that, oh, we need to call him a king, right? I mean, that's why, yeah, I mean, I find the same thing so obnoxious when people try to retrofit,

whether it's founding fathers. yesterday I said founding farmers on the show and it's very like shit restaurant overrated, sorry but don't sue me, most overrated restaurant I'm watching. Emily said positive things about it. Did she really? Oh my God. Anyway, that's a side

tangent, but now I'm very in my head about not being founding fathers again. Anyway, whether it's a founding father or whether it's like a civil rights icon or whatever. Oh yeah. You know, it's already annoying when people will like cherry pick their coats and quotes and be like, that's why my ideological project is in line with blah, blah, blah. It is another level of horror

to literally take an AI embodiment of that person and put your words into their mouth, that is, I think, I mean, it is disturbing. It's gross, it's disturbing, it's mockable, it's ridiculous, it's humiliating, it's all of those. It's sort of pathetic. Honestly, it's pathetic. It is pathetic.

And again, people do this, like you're talking about, with Civil Rights, people will post the most, like, you know, it's like those debates about Abraham Lincoln. People will post his emancipation quotes. Same guy who thought about repatriation quotes. Blacks to Africa, right? Those two things apparently can exist in the same body. Also, within, I mean, I want to go back and check a five-year time span. You could choose to look at that. I'd choose to study the time period between that and then eventually emancipation. That's a lot

more interesting, okay? And that was a product of its time, of its circumstance, and transposing that to today, ridiculous, man. I mean, it's genuinely offensive from a person who really likes to look and to understand history. So, Glenn, I mean, I don't even, I'm, look, I'm sure I'm sure the boomers loved it. I'm sure they loved it. Did they? No, I actually, I'm telling you, I think so. They probably thought it was real. Yeah, they either thought it was real

or they would have agreed with me. Same thing, you know, they do the same thing with Thomas Jefferson. It's like, oh, apparently Thomas Jefferson only ever... Thomas Jefferson had some dumb fuck ideas, all right? Nobody is ever exactly who you think they are. And, you know, yeah, using their, using their, like, literal likeness,

and then pretending that that's what they would have said today, today, man, that's just grim. One more reason to hate this whole development and recognize that thus far, the AI promise for all of us, for these tech titans, it's making them wildly wealthy and it's giving them the possibility of like achieving their wildest God King dreams and fantasies. But for the rest of us, not really living up to the hype so far. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop.

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