Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 2/14/23: White House Denies Aliens, Americans Told Evacuate Russia, New Houston Trail Derailment, Buttigieg Ignores Derailments, Kushner Saudi Billions, Ukraine Starlink, History of UFO Coverups, Brett Favre, Jeremy Corbell US UFO Lies, Nikki Haley 2024

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

Krystal and Saagar discuss the White House denying the existence of Aliens, a warning from the US Gov that Americans must evacuate Russia, Zelensky teaming up with JP Morgan and Blackrock, another Train Derailment with hazardous materials in Houston, Texas, Buttigieg ignoring the train derailments, Jared Kushner caught taking 2 billion from the Saudi government, Elon's comments on cutting Starlink from Ukraine to avoid WW3, Saagar looks into the history of UFO coverups starting in Roswell, Krystal looks at Pat McAfee taunting Brett Favre over Defamation lawsuit, and we are joined by independent journalist Jeremy Corbell (@JeremyCorbell) to talk about the US lies surrounding our current wave of UFOs.To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show uncut and 1 hour early visit: https://breakingpoints.supercast.com/To listen to Breaking Points as a podcast, check them out on Apple and SpotifyApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-points-with-krystal-and-saagar/id1570045623 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Kbsy61zJSzPxNZZ3PKbXl Merch: https://breaking-points.myshopify.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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amazing excuses for why they have been unable to supposedly unable to retrieve any of the debris. So we'll break all of that down for you. Also, some warnings to Americans who are in Russia that they need to get out and get out now. Why is this coming at this moment? We will take a look at that. Also, just breaking in the last several hours, another train derailment, this one outside of Houston. We have all of those details for you. Also, Pete Buttigieg, of course, Secretary of Transportation, continuing to fail at his job.

New details about Jared Kushner and the way he cashed in on his government position, what that means going forward. Elon Musk and Starlink and Ukraine updates there. We also have Jeremy Corbell in the show to talk about what is going on with these UFOs as well. And breaking this morning, get excited, guys. Nikki Haley has officially launched for president. Sagar and I are going to take a look at her announcement video, react live for you. We'll give you our full reaction. People made fun of us for saying 2024 is fully upon us. What did I try to tell you? We tried to tell you. Whether you like it or not. It's February 14th. Yeah,

exactly. It is here. So let's start with UFOs, my personal favorite topic. Extraordinary conference yesterday at the White House with the press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, opening up the actual address to the press and saying that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial life. Then you had John Kirby, the national security spokesperson for the White House and for the Pentagon, take the podium and deliver some more details about these three UFO incidents. Let's take a listen fully to what they said. There is no, again, no indication of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. Again, there is no indication of aliens or terrestrial activity with these recent

takedowns. Wanted to make sure that the American people knew that, all of you knew that, and it was important for us to say that from here because we've been hearing a lot about it. Are you disappointed? I'm not. that. And it was important for us to say that from here because we've been hearing a lot about it. Are you disappointed by that? I'm not. Will you tell us? I'm just, you know, I loved E.T., the movie, but I'm just going to leave it there. In light of the Chinese balloon program and this recent incursion into our airspace, the

United States and Canada, through NORAD, have been more closely scrutinizing that airspace, including enhancing our radar capabilities, which, as the commander of NORTHCOM and NORAD, General Van Hurk, said just last night, may at least partially explain the increase in the objects that have been detected. There are no active tracks today, but the professionals at NORAD will continue to do their important work. We don't know what this exactly looked like. And again, we're still not sure exactly what the purpose of it was or who owned it. But we hope to be able to find out more once we can recover the debris from that one and from the other two as well.

A couple of things that we could take away from that. Number one, I'm just disgusted by my former colleagues in the press who are laughing at this. And it's like, look, yeah, I get that it sounds extraordinary, but shooting down three things for the first time in US history over US airspace is also extraordinary. Your job is to not laugh, but it's to take it seriously. At the very least, just do your job.

Maybe a follow-up question. Maybe ask the question, as we have seen, if you'll remember, Crystal, the very first UFO report that came out, the press spun it as, government finds no evidence of aliens. But you read it, as we have seen, if you'll remember, Crystal, the very first UFO report that came out, the press spun it as government finds no evidence of aliens. But you read it and it's like, yeah, but they didn't find any evidence that it's not. The evidence is they have no idea what's going on. And as you listen throughout that entire briefing, you're like, oh, they still have no clue.

It's been more than 72 hours now since the first UFO was shot down. We have no debris recovery, no update on debris recovery. Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. And we're going to get into some of that. And one of the reasons why is we've seen a flurry of leaks that have come out where you have Pentagon, Canadian officials specifically, and the Pentagon is having a briefing today, actually just a couple of hours from when we're talking right now, with all U.S. senators. It's a classified briefing.

The memo of that briefing has gone ahead and leaked. And what they say is they believe, at least in the Canadian instance, it was a small metallic balloon. So first of all, what does metallic balloon mean? Second, what basis do you have for that information? But when you read deeper, the debris recovery efforts in all three of these cases, they are setting it up to look extraordinarily unlikely. And one of the other reasons why we should be skeptical, at least of this initial explanation, again, here's the thing, I think it probably is likely balloons, but we can't just take them at their word for it.

We have to go back to the original briefing of the NORAD commander that was during the Super Bowl, where he very specifically laid out, I am not calling them balloons for a reason, I am calling them objects. And it was based on the initial description of these objects from the pilots themselves. Just take a listen to what he said then. I'm not going to categorize them as balloons. We're calling them objects for a reason. Certainly the event off the South Carolina coast for the

Chinese spy balloon, that was clearly a balloon. These are objects I am not able to categorize how they stay aloft. It could be a gaseous type of balloon inside a structure, or it could be some type of a propulsion system. But clearly, they're able to stay aloft. I would be hesitant and urge you not to attribute it to any specific country. We don't know. This is the big divide we have here. This NORAD commander, he is the one who, frankly, has been the most honest.

He was like, look, I'm not ruling out anything whenever it comes to aliens. He goes, number one. Number two, I'm not calling them balloons for a reason. People in a more classified setting have been trying to say that. But what we are watching right now is a concerted effort and all three debris recovery efforts to set the stage where they're like, look, it's likely that we'll just never get them. So my personal favorite, which you found this up there on the screen from the Detroit News representative, at least Alyssa Slotkin, who is a former CIA spook, just so you all know, she says that the shot down object is likely in very deep water. And actually, they changed that headline because originally they said, well, the recovery of the shot down object in Lake Huron is hampered by, quote, choppy waters. Now, I did go ahead and check because it did sound pretty incredulous to me.

There were some choppy waves out there on the lake yesterday, but they keep changing their story. First, it was, oh, well, the weather is bad in Alaska and the Yukon. Okay, that's reasonable. It's the winter, et cetera. But then all of us are checking the weather over Lake Huron. It's like 48 degrees and sunny. So we're like, okay, well, are you going to go out and get there? No, no, now it's choppy waters. Like, okay, now what? So what about when the weather's not, or when the water's not choppy? They're like, oh, but now it's a very, very deep, it's a deep water. You're like, oh, I was aware, I was under the impression that we spent $800 billion a year on the U.S. military and that, you know, that in the 1960s that we've literally floated up Russian submarines with Howard Hughes.

I was just under the impression that we were a competent nation. Excuse me. Excuse me. Dealing with choppy water. Choppy water. Okay. Maybe. Now, here's the other thing.

I read even deeper, Crystal, and the Canadian officials are now doing the same thing. So get this. The Canadian Defense Ministry put out a background statement last night. And they were like, hey, look, you got to prepare yourself for we're never going to find this thing in the Yukon. And it's like, oh, OK, why? And they're like, well, the search radius is three thousand miles wide. Why? Yeah, I agree. Yeah, we shot it down. We know where we shot it down. Could it really have drifted 3,000 miles? Okay, let's say, you know, what did we learn after 9-11? You know, when people were looking at the debris radius in terms of a couple hundred miles, you know, reasonable.

But 3,000? Why exactly is it 3,000? Don't we know exactly when it went down? And, you know, once again, like I was under the impression, excuse me, of a very sophisticated military equipment, which is capable of putting a Hellfire missile literally in the passenger side of a car, something I've literally seen happen from my days of covering the defense industry. So, you know, that begs a little bit of belief. But first of all, same thing. He goes, you should prepare yourself for we may never find it.

And then on the Alaska UFO, it's the exact same thing. The weather is bad. I checked. The weather is it's like freezing temperature in the Aleutian Islands. It's like 33 degrees. It has been snowing, you know, undeniably like low, lower light conditions. Sure. But no, once again, we do have military assets to fly up there all the time. And, and, you know, once like, don't we have unmanned assets? Like, can't you go and snap a picture with the Chinese balloon, we had a video of it happening in the sky, number one. Number two, within two hours, you had a video of people literally pulling

it up. Already, DOD has released even more of what has come out from the Chinese balloon of Navy divers and others who are recovering some of this. In all three now of the UFO cases, they say, nope, they're preparing the ground for, we're never going to find it. And they want you to forget about it. I honestly think that's what's happening. That's it. They want you to run out the clock so that people move on to whatever is next. And we forget about the fact that, I mean, listen, if it was one, you know, the one over the Aleutian Islands or whatever, and they're like, listen, it's tough out there. Okay, maybe. But all three, after we literally just saw you have no trouble whatsoever getting the chinese spy balloon like i'm sorry i just don't believe it i just don't believe it

the idea and listen i saw uh because you tweeted about the alyssa slot kid thing and i saw kinds of people blow like you don't get it like you're on it really does get crazy on there's like okay i believe you but also really the united states military is unable to deal with choppy waters. I just don't buy it. I do not buy it. So I also think it's interesting that the one piece of information that they did allow to leak out, and make no mistake about it, it was allowed to leak out, is the piece from this memo about what they think the one over Alaska ultimately was, which is like the most like, everybody calm down. It's just another balloon, nothing to see here.

But again, if they knew these were all balloons, if they had specific information about what was going on here, and it was, you know, nothing really to see here, some corporate balloon or whatever, which is something that they floated that like some, it could be some corporate company balloon. Or then why didn't the company come out and say it? Yeah, I mean, they would tell us that.

If it was something that was as little or as insignificant as that ultimately. So I don't know what's going on, but I definitely know that we are not getting the full story of what they know and what they've been able to accomplish here. Not even close. And let's put this up there on the screen for the next one.

You know, we already have here, ex-NORAD commander saying the UFOs are a, quote, concerted effort to test out outdated systems. He might be right. But the more important one is the headline, we still have not recovered any debris from the three that were shot down over the weekend. And the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, actually talked about that on a trip. The audio is a little weird because he was speaking right outside of an airplane. But we're going to play it for you. Let's go and take a listen. Because we've not been able to definitively assess what these recent objects are, we've acted out of an abundance of caution to protect our security and interest.

That's why we have teams working hard to track down the debris from over the weekend. Got teams working hard, but we still haven't been able to do it. Okay, maybe. And you know, some of the stuff that's coming out about these initial encounters are pretty crazy. Let's go ahead and put this up there on the screen. So last night it broke from Lucas Tomlinson. He's a great Pentagon reporter. I remember him from my days there. He says, quote, the U.S. Air Force F-16 that shot down the unknown object over Lake Huron yesterday missed on its first attempt. It's not clear where the first missile landed. A second sidewinder air-to-air missile was needed. Each sidewinder AIM-9X costs over $400,000. So I asked some of my aviation geek friends about this,

and there were a couple of things that we can learn. Number one is the indication of using this missile means that the actual object had a heat signature because apparently it can't lock on unless there's a heat signature. Second, though, they don't miss. That's why we spend $400,000 a missile on them. Do balloons have a heat signature? I don't know.

So that was the one I said, well, it depends. if it's a propulsion system. Okay. So maybe, maybe that one was totally unclear, but really to me was, well, did it have the ability to maneuver away from it? Like, did it dodge it? I mean, the whole point is the, we spend the equivalent of a house per missile and we have 110,000 of these missiles in our arsenal, by the way. Why do we have them? Because they're very accurate. They go all the way back, I believe, until the 1950s, that we keep engineering for, it's considered like the gold standard for the US Air Force. And specifically, the fact that they missed, a lot of people were raising questions about that. They're like, wait, does that mean that, first of all, we remember that some of the pilots had talked about how the sensors were jammed.

I don't know if people know this, but actively jamming radar is an act of war under our rules of engagement. So if that's what happened. They said sensors. They didn't necessarily use the word radar. But I am taking a lot of interest here in these pilots. I looked it up. We spent $6 million just to train the pilot. The aircraft itself, who knows how many tens of millions of dollars the aircraft is. It costs $30,000 per flight hour and $400,000 per missile. These are sophisticated pieces of military equipment. And they don't miss all that often,

specifically for this reason. So that's pretty extraordinary. It's extraordinary that it missed. Could be human error. I mean, could be. Although, you know, I think we spend house per missile so that you don't have human error in these situations. All you really have to do is lock on and press a button. But I guess technically could have been a misfire. But then why are we spending $400,000 per missile anyway? So I have a lot of questions about this one. I mean, I guess if I was going to try to get into, like, you know, what the excuse could be. I remember before the Chinese spy balloon was shot down,

there was a lot of analysis of, like, actually, it's more complicated to, like, take down a balloon than you think it is because of the altitude and because it's a different size or whatever. Bullets don't work at 60,000 feet. Maybe it's because these aren't designed to take down balloons.

Sure. That's maybe possible but um this whole portrait is either one of a gigantic cover-up or just like an embarrassing display of mass incompetence and like revealing how you know before russia invaded ukraine everyone was like oh my god the russian military whatever and then once they did invade ukraine it was like yeah this still isn't all that it was really cracked up to be i'm getting some of those vibes here it's either like i said either there's a lot that we're not being told which i think is very possible if not likely or we are much less competent than what we think and what we ultimately portray to the world it's one of

those two things going on here and by the way combination of both. Yeah, that's true too. I think it's a combination of both. I mean, one thing I know is that we are being spun as much as possible and they are, look, without a doubt, I read you those three separate quotes that they gave about debris recovery. They are setting it up so that it'll either be weeks before you get something or they're just going to say that we never found anything at all. My entire monologue today, by the way, is about the history of UFO coverups, about Roswell, and all of that, and exactly why I am so skeptical in all of this, because the longer you wait, and the longer you have for them to possibly fabricate evidence, come up with a new story,

and all of that, it's just like the early days of many of the UFO covers. I wonder, you know how the explanation is like, okay, after the Chinese spy balloon, then we recalibrated the radar. So we're more sensitive and we're like looking at these higher altitudes, et cetera, and looking for things that are as small as a car. I wonder if they're going to recalibrate them so that they can just pretend like none of this is happening again. It's like, yeah, we don't, yeah, we're good. That's the whole point. And that's exactly what, you know, UFO people have been saying this whole time. They're like, yeah, we're good. Everything's the way. That's the whole point. And that's exactly what UFO people have been saying this whole time.

They're like, you have no idea what's up there because you're not looking for it. It's like, I was reminded of the scene from the hunt for Red October where there's the new submarine and the sonar system doesn't know how to code the submarine. They're like calling it deep sea noises because they'd never heard the noise before.

So how is your equipment is only as good as you know to what to look for. If you're not looking for anything, then you can say that you've never the noise before. So how is your, your equipment is only as good as you know to what to look for. If you're not looking for anything, then you can say that you've never seen anything before. And luckily they had human ingenuity as that character in the movie, Jonesy, great character, who was like, no, there's actually something else going on here.

Well, we've had that now. We've had multiple Jonesys, pilots and Ryan Graves and David Fravor and many others. The Tic Tac pilot as well, I believe he was on TV last night. All of these people are the highly sophisticated warfighters, people who have flown thousands and thousands of hours. Like you really, and as Tom Rogan said, if you believe that they're mentally unsound to make up a UFO story, why did we leave them in charge of these highly expensive, multi-hundred million dollar aircraft in charge of supporting U.S. troops and bombing enemy targets. Completely incredulous for us to believe that.

I think the last thing that I want to say on this, this morning, there's a lot of discussion of like, is this a psyop to distract from something else, train derailment or whatever, Ukraine, who knows? And the reason I don't think so is because I don't think they would do something that was like so embarrassing. Like this does not look good for them. They're not enjoying this. Like it's humiliating. They're having to pretend or potentially like, I guess, be honest about, but I don't really buy it, that they can't even get the debris from these things. They have no idea what's going on.

Like this has not been a good look for anyone in charge of the military or in this administration. So, yeah, I think it's incompetence. I think that the media would be happy to ignore the trained railmen and any other number of stories. They do it all the time without needing some like giant UFO type psyop. So that's why I'm really not sort of buying that explanation for what's going on. Yeah, look, I personally think the most mid take on the internet is that this is all a psy-op. And it's largely because, as you said, they hate that they have to do this.

And by the way, they're going out of their way to try and keep it out of the news as possible to keep everybody calmed down, which is all if it's very well with UFO history, of which I will get into. So we'll leave it at that. We'll tease for Sagar's monologue. Yeah, that's right.

We'll leave it at that. But let's just say all of this is straight out of the playbook. Let's go ahead and move on to Ukraine. Some crazy news yesterday. I still really don't know yet what to make of, but significant. Let's put this up there on the screen. The U.S. embassy issued a flash to all American citizens in Russia with some pretty stark language, quote, do not travel to Russia due to unpredictable consequences of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. U.S. citizens who live or travel in Russia must immediately leave the country. I think one of the extraordinary things about this advisory is not we advise U.S. citizens to leave. It says must immediately leave the

country. That's one of the most stark warnings that I've ever seen from a US embassy and from a US consulate. And what was really crazy is that it was done in conjunction with a couple of other nations. Go and put the next one up there on the screen. The French did not go as far as we did, but they said, quote, France strongly urges its citizens to leave Russia if their presence is, quote, non-essential after the invasion of Ukraine. The weird thing about this is that the invasion happened a year ago. So why are we urging them to leave right now? So there's a couple of indications of things that I've seen. Number one was that they possibly have received intelligence.

Oh, Brazil also joined in on this, by the way. So you got France, Brazil Brazil and the U.S. So maybe they received indications that the Russian government, you know, after the whole Brittany Griner situation was looking to take more hostages possible. But, you know, I don't know why things would speed up now. Number two is maybe we're about to go do something there that might cause them to crack down. Or our Ukrainian friends. Right. Did not escape me that the U.S. and France are two of the nations that actually are two nations that manufacture fighter jets. So, yeah, that's one that, they anticipate retaliation against American citizens, possibly also civil unrest, because we could have Russia possibly moving to a second draft.

I'm not saying that's what's happening. I'm saying that these are all the initial speculations that I've seen. But I mean, you know, they don't just say this every day, which is you must leave the country. I mean, I've never seen a country advisory like that. Yeah. I mean, we don't know what it means. It's just worth taking note of. And the things that we do know is it is widely expected that Russia is planning to mount a major offensive before Ukraine gets their hands on tanks. And as spring starts to arrive in Ukraine, we know that Russian shelling has actually ticked up already. There is some speculation that that offensive has already begun. So, you know, the expectation is and there's a reason also why Zelensky has taken this time to go to travel around

to Western allies and ask for fighter jets in particular and longer range missiles and to secure the tanks that have already been promised. So clearly there is an expectation that some major offenses are coming now. And maybe this relates to that. Maybe this is about something else. There's no way to know before it all unfolds. Yeah. Look, it's an extraordinary situation. I think that that's probably where we'll leave it.

Let's put this up there on the screen, and this could have some indication of it, which is that if you'll remember that city of Bakhmut where President Zelensky visited and liberated right before he came to the United States and famously brought the flag of liberation to the floor of the U.S. Congress. Well, Ukraine actually just told aid groups yesterday, U.S. aid groups specifically, you need to leave. Nobody knows what that might mean, but it is likely a prelude to Ukrainian withdrawal. So aid groups and civilians are no longer allowed to enter the city as of Monday. The military said that the fighting is continuing to intensify in the strategic city in eastern Ukraine, of which the Russians are expected to mount an offensive on. They said that the reason they wouldn't allow it was because of the danger that's going to be posed by street fighting. And the ban on volunteer access has been in the past a prelude to Ukrainian withdrawal. Ukrainian military says, no, we have retained control of

the city. We can resupply our troops. We can evacuate our wounded. But look, it's a precarious situation. Nonetheless, at the very least, it is being contested, right, Crystal? So that's what we can surmise, I think, from the situation. Which really underscores the fact that this war, unfortunately, has a long way to go. And the fact that Ukraine really outperformed expectations and had a stunningly successful performance in the spring and summer offensive, no guarantees for the future. Russia has had time now to incorporate those hundreds of thousands of troops that they called up before and send them into the front lines. And so, you know, there's a fear that the dynamics could ultimately be shifting in real time

right now. Yep, absolutely. Let's go to the second part here. It's pretty interesting. Let's put this up there on the screen. This has to do with Ukraine and its dealings with American financial institutions. So here the headline is that Ukraine plots post-war rebuilding effort with JPMorgan Chase as its advisor. So JPMorgan yesterday in a deal with the country of Ukraine said that it is going to tap its debt capital market operations payments and commercial banking infrastructure investing expertise to help the country stabilize its economy and credit rating, manage its funds, and advance its digital adoption, whatever that means. What it really means, though, is that J.P. Morgan is going to work with Ukraine to raise private investment

to help rebuild and invest for future growth in Ukraine, including, quote, renewable energy, agriculture, and technology. So outside of the initial things that they say, the reason why I think it's important is that these major Wall Street banks, they are seeing some real profit opportunity here in Ukraine. I mean, I don't know, it's really disgusting to see, but of course, you know, whenever you knock a whole city down after the war, somebody's got to rebuild it. Somebody's got to finance it. And it's not just the U.S. government that's getting in on this. Also, Zelensky clearly sees this as a critical avenue. Not only with JP Morgan, just yesterday, he met with the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, to secure even more loans to the Ukrainian government. Right now, Jamie Dimon is saying that the bank has led a $20 billion

debt restructuring for Ukraine last year and has committed millions of dollars of support for Ukrainian refugees. But the reason why this is the prelude to possibly something much grosser and much more nefarious, let's put this next one up there on the screen, is that we had a previous one we were going to cover back in December, but it fits with this very importantly. Zelensky announced an alliance with BlackRock for reconstruction of Ukraine. Now, that BlackRock reconstruction was signed back in December with the CEO, Larry Fink. BlackRock said that rebuilding Ukraine could take, Crystal, between $700 to $800 billion. And they're pointing specifically to the new partnership where they will advise the Ukrainian government on how to structure the country's reconstruction funds.

So you could see this is Iraq and Afghanistan levels of graft if they want it to be. I mean, they're getting their little hands in this one. I love the way they paint it like they're just very humanitarian. We're going to help them raise. Well, what's your fee? And also, the reason why this matters to all of us is, look, Ukraine, they can do whatever they want. But here's the deal. They don't have a real economy.

We're the ones who are paying all their bills. We're the ones who are going to guarantee all of their debt. We are literally running their central bank and balancing their budgets right now. American taxpayers will be the ones who are basically guaranteeing much of this debt. And how much money are they going to make off of all of these guarantees and these private investors? Their guarantee, it might come from the Ukrainian government. That is a de facto bet on the United States government. So we're basically facilitating a massive wealth transfer. Well, there's a lot going on here.

Western capital has been circling Ukraine like vultures for years now, even before this war. Ukraine already had a lot of debt with IMF. The IMF, of course, is like a tool of imposing, you know, a shock doctrine and has already forced a bunch of changes to open up the economy so that Western capital could come in and profit off of their agriculture sector, as one key example here, because Ukraine, of course, known as the breadbasket of Europe and of the region. Ukraine is a country that, you know, suffered almost more than any and struggled after the collapse of the Soviet Union. So there's long been a push to, OK, any state owned enterprises, they need to be privatized. We need to open up markets to Western capital. So this is a

more accelerated, more aggressive push in the same direction that they have been pushing for a long time to impose basically like neoliberal shock doctrine of the sort that we have imposed in lots of places around the world. Zelensky actually gave a speech back at the end of January to the U.S. National Association of State Chambers where he talked some about this approach and encouraging banks like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan to come in and be part of this effort. He said, it's already clear this will be the largest economic project of our time in Europe. It's obvious that American business can become the locomotive that will once again push forward global economic growth. He went on to thank investment firms BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgan. He says, and everyone can become a big business by working with Ukraine in all sectors, from weapons and defense to construction, from communications to agriculture, from transport to IT, from banks to medicine. And I invite you to work with us right now. I think it's always important to keep an eye on the people who are profiting from a war and from disaster. And very clearly here, you know,

the titans of Wall Street are getting their hooks into Ukraine and hoping to make a big profit on the other side of this. And it's disgusting to watch it unfold. Yeah, it really is. The whole thing, look, we're going to watch it closely. Indeed. All right. Something else we've been keeping a close eye on is what the hell is going on with that train derailment in Ohio. We have some big updates for you there. But this morning we woke up to the news that there is another train with some toxic chemicals which derailed in Houston. They are actively monitoring the air quality. Go ahead and put, we have some images here we can put up on the screen.

For those of you who are just listening, I'll describe it. You can see a number of cars of this train that have derailed off the tracks right next to some sort of a major interstate highway there that you can see. You've got a closer in look of these cars that have come off the tracks. Now, this morning, we have some news about exactly what happened here. It does appear to be a somewhat different situation than what unfolded in Ohio. Specifically, local news is reporting that a truck driver died and several freight train cars were derailed during a Monday morning collision northeast of Houston. That crash was between an 18-wheeler and a Union Pacific train. And 21 train cars were derailed and a hazardous materials team from Union Pacific was on site and monitoring air quality as a precaution.

A spokesperson for the railway Union Pacific confirmed that its hazmat crews were on the site and estimated that 100 gallons of diesel fuel were released by the truck that was involved in the crash. And they say, from what we're being told and shown, there's no major chemicals to be concerned about, more so household chemicals on board for retail purposes, not a large quantity from what we're being told. But keep in mind, that is the corporate line of what is going on with that train derailment. And they are apparently do have hazmat response on the scene monitoring air quality. So that's what we know about that one.

We will keep an eye on that. But going moving to Ohio, this is I would say it's astonishing. It's really just par for the course. Pete Buttigieg is the secretary of transportation. Now, he wanted this job. He didn't want to be. He was offered some other stuff. This was the job he wanted because he thought it would be prestigious and easy and could just fly around, ribbon cutting ceremonies, talking about infrastructure.

It has turned out to be one of the most critical jobs in the entire country. Now, if you were, you know, if he was the man he presents himself as, this would be an opportunity to rise to the occasion, demonstrate to the American people his competence, his concern, his care for supply chains, for rail lines, for airline passengers. But instead, he doesn't do any of that. I mean, he seems to be, number one, thoroughly incompetent. Number two, completely asleep at the switch. So again, par for the course, he was speaking at the National Association of Counties, supposed to be touting their infrastructure project, which again is the only thing he really cares about because it doesn't require him to do anything just like trot around the country

like some little celebrity, says nothing, nothing in this speech about this massive ecological catastrophe that is unfolding in the state of Ohio. Instead, this is what he has to talk about. To work with your contractors, to work with your community colleges on building a workforce that reflects the community. We have heard way too many stories from generations past of infrastructure where you got a neighborhood, often a neighborhood of color that finally sees the project come to

them. But everyone in the hard hats on that project looking like, you know, doing the good paying jobs, don't look like they came from anywhere near the neighborhood. You can build community wealth that will help close wealth gaps in this country if we can tear down those barriers. But that happens at the delivery level. Yeah, that's what this guy is focused on about workplace diversity, when there's a goddamn train derailment, toxic chemicals that are being spewed out into the public. What? You can just see so clearly, like he did really poorly in his presidential campaign with anyone who was I mean, he didn't do that well overall, but he did pretty well with white people and nobody else. OK, he got like what, 1 percent of the black vote in South Carolina. It was a pathetic performance. And he has no idea how to actually appeal to people. So he thinks this is the way to further his presidential ambitions rather than actually deal with the very real problems that are in his portfolio that he is supposed to be focused on.

Guess what? I'm sure there are some black folks in Ohio who are concerned about this train derailment. More to the point, everybody in America would like to see you actually do your job and deliver for the people who are relying on you to deliver for them. So that's Pete. Meanwhile, we are getting more details about exactly what is going on in Ohio. And it's quite scary. You know, we've been talking about the fact. So this train derailed. There was a lot of corporate malfeasance and corruption that basically went into creating the conditions of this derailment. So that's story number one. We had a great guest on yesterday who talked about that. But as this is all unfolding, you know,

the residents of East Palestine have been given the all clear, everything's fine. You can go about your business, go back to your homes. This is no problem. We took care of it. But the reports from on the ground are quite different. And local news had a hazardous material expert on who is warning about the potential effects of what was released here in some pretty stark terms. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Basically, nuked a town with chemicals so we could get a railroad open. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency sent a letter to Norfolk Southern stating that ethylene glycol monobutyl ether, ethylexoacrylate, and isobutylene were also in the rail cars that were derailed, breached, or on fire. So he says there, we basically nuked a town with chemicals so we could get a railroad open and goes on to express concern about future cancer

clusters, which given that what was released here in this controlled, controlled release was is a known carcinogen. So meanwhile, on the ground, you know, we're lucky to have a couple of partners have done great reporting here. Lever News has done some of the best reporting about the corruption that and the greed that led to the situation to start with. And Status Quo has been on the ground interviewing residents. Jordan Sheridan of Status Quo talked to a fox keeper who had one of his foxes died and others of them clearly visibly ill after the release of these toxic chemicals. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. At the vet, they tested the blood levels and there's raised liver enzymes and the chloride levels in the blood are on the high end of normal and the lungs are inflamed. There's the eye irritation and there is neurological issues going on, which is also things that can happen from the

vinyl chloride exposure. And I have others that also have neurological issues that just, they're not themselves at all from it. And I'm really worried. And just to give you a sense, this isn't cherry picked. There are a lot of reports coming from locals who are there on the ground. This one was on TikTok. Someone who was taking a look at the what they describe as hundreds of dead fish that are turning up in streams there. Let's take a look at that.

I think it's important for people to see the dead fish. I'm going to walk under the bridge here above and show you. Coming right up, another fish. There's hundreds of them up here. So hundreds of dead fish, other animals like foxes that are dying. National Journal actually had a good report where they talked to people who were on the ground. And you're talking about people who even after the all clear was given, they, they didn't come back fully to their homes, but they went back to us to get something that they needed, you know, an ID, something else. So they're literally in and out. Eyes are watering and burning and headaches. And this is after they've been told, oh, it's, it's all good. It's all fine. That report, this is, this just breaks

my heart to give you a sense of what people are going through there. Talk about a woman named Andrea Belden who noticed her two-year-old cat, Leo, lying motionless, heart racing and breathing labored, remained that way overnight. He was found to have congestive heart failure. Fluid filled around his heart and lungs. His liver enzymes shot up. Medication was not working. He wasn't moving. He wasn't eating, wasn't drinking, wasn't going to the bathroom. To continue treatment, she would have had to come up with $18,000. So she went to the railway, North North South and said, Hey, listen, the vet says this is connected to what you all did. Pay like, let me keep my cat alive. They said, no, maybe in the future, fat lot of good that does

her now. And she had to put the cat to sleep. And even after putting the cat down, she still owes almost $10,000 for the treatment that Leo had already received. Just horrible. Just to give you a sense of, you know, one small piece of the nightmare that people are going through. And then, of course, people are terrified of, what is this doing to my kids? What is this doing to me? What does this mean for my future? And so far, there's no indication that Norfolk Southern has, you know, any plan to pay people for anything close to the damages that they have likely incurred here. Oh, yeah.

And look, I mean, you know, we've covered here the unions were warning about this. I mean, that goes back to why the railway deal was a crime in the first place. And then second, I mean, where is our where's our government like? Yes. President Biden has there's two the biggest stories in the country, in my estimation right now, are UFOs and Ohio. He hasn't said a word about either of them. Where are you? And then his deputized people, you know, one is abroad talking about, you know, oh, we haven't recovered any debris yet. The other one is talking about workplace diversity. I mean, we have no confidence that anything is going to happen. Listen, if I was one of those people, there's no way in hell I'm going back. Yeah, not a chance. There's a guy who I have no idea the credibility of this guy,

but he's on TikTok and he seemed like he knew what he was talking about. It seemed like he was a chemist. He had sort of like detailed knowledge about this particular chemical and the way it interacts with water and air and what temperature it boils at, et cetera. But one thing he said that definitely rang true for me based on what I've observed for the news is he said, listen, I studied these industrial accidents all the time because it was like a particular fascination for him. He's like, the pattern is always the same. The company puts out the most positive, like optimistic statement about what's going on. The politicians, they don't know and sometimes are in bed with these people. And so they just parrot whatever the corporate line ultimately is. The media is not expert on what these chemicals are and what the

fallout effects might be, et cetera, et cetera. So they also just parrot whatever the politicians are saying. So ultimately what you're getting in all of these incidents in terms of the first blush impression is usually just whatever the corporate line is. And so that's why I too would be deeply skeptical that it is actually safe in the area that adequate testing has been done, that they even know what the potential fallout of such a thing could be. I mean, we've never had a situation before with this much of this particular chemical and being burned and how much seeped into the ground and how much went out in the air. And now we know that it seeped into the Ohio River Basin. What does that mean? I think one thing that we've, you know, we see with the

UFOs too, it's like, they pretend like they, oh, we were super competent and we know what's going on. We've got this lockdown. They don't really know, especially the local, but they're guessing the media is guessing. And so I would take a lot more seriously the people who are living there, who are trying to go about their daily lives and are continuing to see and experience directly negative effects of whatever the hell happened here. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to stay on it, guys. Yeah, 100%. Another thing we wanted to take a look at is The Washington Post has a new in-depth report about the way especially Jared Kushner, but also

Donald Trump himself, has profited off of their deep ties and relationship with Saudi Arabia. I mean, this has major implications for the foreign policy of their administration in the past, also major implications for what their foreign policy would be if they end up back in the White House. Let's go ahead and put this up on the screen. Some of this covers things we've covered before, but it goes into great depth, and there's additional detail. The headline is, after helping princes rise, Trump and Kushner benefit from Saudi funds. An investment fund overseen by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is backing ventures that profit the former president and his senior advisor, raising questions of conflict. Now, you all will recall under the

Trump administration, Kushner in particular, and some of these details are really revealed for the first time in this report, he was the one who was really pushing Trump to cozy up to the Saudi Arabian government and especially to MBS. He was the one who, Trump initially didn't want Saudi to be his first foreign trip. Kushner was the one who really initially didn't want Saudi to be his first foreign trip. Kushner was the one who really kind of put the screws to him and pushed him to do that. And now potentially in exchange, MBS has really bailed Kushner out of some difficult financial straits and funded almost all of this $2 billion fund that Kushner raised. Let me read you a little bit of what this says, because the details here are stunning. They say, the day after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner created a company that he transformed months later into a private equity firm with $2

billion from a sovereign wealth fund chaired by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Kushner's firm structured those funds so they didn't have to disclose the source, according to previously unreported details of SEC forms reviewed by The Washington Post. His business used a commonly employed strategy that allows many equity firms to avoid transparency about funding sources, something I would argue we should probably change. On Trump's side, they talk about how a year after his presidency, Trump's golf courses, they began hosting tournaments for the Saudi fund-backed Live Golf. Separately, the former president's family company, the Trump Organization, they secured an agreement with a Saudi real estate company that plans to build a

Trump Hotel as part of a $4 billion golf resort in Oman. They also talk about here how Trump acknowledges that he bailed MBS out, especially with regards to the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. He said in a recorded interview, quote, I saved his ass, according to the Trump tapes by Post associate editor Bob Woodward. He refused to endorse the CIA's conclusion. He equivocated about Mohammed's involvement. He opposed releasing of the report and vetoed a congressional bill to block arms sales to the kingdom. President sent Mike Pompeo, who had replaced Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State, to meet with the prince and remind him of his debt. By the way, Kushner has also reportedly raised at least another $500 million from his company from unknown international investors

since he filed his SEC form last year. He has not identified the source of that money. And just to put the numbers in stark relief here, let's go ahead and put this up on the screen. As of last year, Kushner's firm reported that $2.51 billion out of $2.54 billion under management came from foreign sources, $2 billion of that directly from MBS, more or less. I mean, we've talked here before about the fact that the review board for this investment initially were like, no, we don't think that Jared Kushner has the skill set. He's not qualified. We don't want to invest this money with him. And MBS came in over the top and basically made this investment happen. So it is a disgusting, disgusting display. I mean, the most direct

example you can possibly imagine of like the intermingling of politics, foreign affairs and personal wealth and, you know, corruption. Straight pay to play. Kushner is going to personally pocket 25 million in management fees just off the Saudi money alone. All right. So that's it. Fantastic wealth coming straight off of the MBS relationship that he built in the White House. There's no way to describe this is as corrupt as it possibly gets. It is just as bad as Hunter Biden. It is just as bad as Chelsea Clinton sitting on the board of Expedia or whatever, because she's very qualified, of course. Yeah, that's exactly why. I mean, every time I look at these

and you have these relations who are of people who are in power, the level of brazenness that they are allowed to get away with is outrageous. And here's the crazy part, guys. This is totally legal. It's all legal, but that doesn't make it right. $2.51 billion in foreign...

Is anybody in the United States willing to give this guy money? No, because we all know he's an idiot, so he has to go abroad. There's a reason why 2.51 of the 2.54 is all raised overseas. That is 98.8%. And by the way, he is the son-in-law, technically, of a billionaire, right? So by this, it doesn't even look like his own wife will give him his money. Like people will give him money for the Saudis and possibly some other oligarchs. Who didn't even want to do it until the crown prince literally was like, no, you're going to

give Jared what he asked for. Look, let the money sink in. He's getting filthy rich off of his time in the White House. Just ask yourself this. Yeah. They end up back in the White House with, you know, Trump making whatever he's making from, Liv Golf and Jared with his $2 billion in the fund. You think they're really going to be first and foremost concerned about whatever the American interest is with regards to the Saudis? Come on. You don't think this is going to impact their decision-making?

You don't think that this possibility impacted their decision-making last time around? I don't think anyone could tell you with a straight face that this has no impact on the way that they will ultimately conduct their foreign policy with, you know, a nation that is both very important and with which we have somewhat of a fraught relationship at the moment. I mean, this isn't some bit player. This is a major player, especially when it comes to energy and the price of gas at the pump. So it's disgusting and we cannot focus on it possibly enough because it is such a brazen, brazen example of pay to play. All right. At the same time, we've got a little Elon Musk back and forth. This is an interesting one. All right. Put this up on the screen from Mediaite. Elon Musk is defending restricting Ukraine military internet service,

saying, quote, we will not enable escalation of conflict that may lead to World War III. This came in response, put this next piece up on the screen, to astronaut Scott Kelly, who actually is Mark Kelly's brother. He said to Elon, Ukraine desperately needs your continued support. Please restore the full functionality of your Starlink satellite. Defense from a genocidal invasion is not an offensive capability. Survival, innocent lives will be lost. You can help. Thank you. To which Elon replies what you see on the screen here.

You're smart enough not to swallow media and other propaganda BS. Starlink is the communication backbone of Ukraine, especially at the front lines where almost all other internet connectivity has been destroyed. But we will not enable escalation of conflict that may lead to world war three um he went on in response to another person here he says listen SpaceX commercial terminals like other commercial products are meant for private use put this next one up on the screen guys not military but we have not exercised our right to turn them off we're trying hard to do the right thing where the right thing is an extremely difficult moral question now you guys know I haven't been the biggest biggest UN fan

on this. I will 100 percent defend him. And by the way, you know, it's not clear 100 percent what they have done to limit Starlink service. They did announce they are going to limit it. There's some Wall Street Journal reporting that says basically Ukrainian soldiers say it's working largely as usual for frontline communications. But some units had reported issues with terminals attached to strike drones. So, again, not 100 percent clear the ways that they have restricted it. But I think he's trying to strike what to me seems like a relatively reasonable balance, trying to avoid escalation leading to World War III. And also, Sager is very much in line with the original rationale and explanation from the U.S. government of what they would be doing vis-a-vis Ukraine. Yeah, I don't know. You know, his point is not wrong. He's like, look, this is supposed to be a commercial device. It's not even supposed

to be used for military purposes. You know why you don't want to use for military purposes? Because now you're opening yourselves up to the world of sanctions and you're opening up yourself. You're in a different realm than you ever intended to be. And, you know, at the right right now, I mean, he already talked about how they were providing Ukraine like hundreds of millions of dollars in free service with high speed Internet connectivity. And he's like, I guess we'll just keep doing it. But the core beef was Starlink was like, hey, Pentagon, you pay for it. You know, you're the one. And they're like, no, we're not going to do this.

It's outrageous because they initially provided free service to Ukraine. Zelensky then jumping on being like, Elon doesn't support Ukraine, like, you know, and basically browbeating him in the press to make him bow before this. But I think it's a totally legitimate point. Like, if the U.S. government wants to provide high speed interactivity to Ukrainian forces, then they are welcome to do that. But why should a private company be required to do so? And then secondary, if the private company is going to do so, basically out of the goodness of their heart, it's costing them a lot of money. Well, then

their parameters of that CEO, of their owner, and how he views the conflict is, of course, going to play a role here. This is part of what drives me crazy about the Ukrainians. You don't have a right to anything that we give you. You should be grateful about what it is. And they're not. Like, their and their defenders are constantly, and I pointed to that previous, Zelensky demands fighter jets. All right, you build them, okay? Yeah, go for it. You don't have an industrial base. That's why you can't do it.

So you should at least say, please, can you give us, you know, if you're going to ask us to escalate, at least be nice about it. That's one of those things where it drives me nuts in the media and the way Elon was treated on this. You should be thanking God for him, for creating this technology that enables you and your military to put up even a modest defense

against the Russians. You should not be demanding it. And not only that, you're not even paying for it. You're getting it for free. I mean, listen, I think that, I think people aren't necessarily saying

Elon has to, is like required to, but they're saying it'd be the right thing to do. And he's basically arguing like, it's a little complicated because, you know, it's one thing, all the reporting says that Starlink has been, has truly been critical for Ukraine in terms of their communications on the frontline. And Starlink is still providing that, which is incredibly important, which is why I think the like antagonistic approach that Zelensky and others in Ukraine have taken has been, you know, they can say whatever the front lines for the purpose of defense, but not wanting to be really involved in enabling any sort of offensive capabilities in particular that could, you know, strike Crimea, strike into Russia itself. I think, again, that that's a reasonable moral stand to take as he is trying to sort through, you know, what their role here should ultimately be. So, yeah, I think the Ukrainian approach here has been a bit foolish.

Ultimately, you know, this has been incredibly critical for their efforts. And instead of getting any sort of, like, appreciation or acknowledgement of how critical they have been, you know, he's basically getting shit on for getting involved at all. Yeah, but that's the thing. They're not foolish. They can get away with it. They never get called on anything.

Zelensky literally lies about a Russian missile flying in Poland, calling for a no-fly zone. Everybody here is like, no, no, no. You know what was crazy when that whole thing happened? Whenever it turned out that it was a Ukrainian anti-air missile, they were like, oh, it's Russia's fault, actually, that our citizens were killed. What? They didn't even apologize for what happened. I mean, the level of which we accommodate them is crazy.

You can say, yeah, look, what's going on there? It's unjust that you were invaded. I hope that you win. I support your right to defend yourself. But that doesn't mean that we, you know, you're always in the right. And the level of hysteria and just the inability to grapple

with any critical thought on this, like it is, as people can tell, drives me absolutely, especially when they're ungrateful to people like you are for literally giving them tens of millions of dollars in free service of which they say is required on the battlefield. And they're so arrogant

that they're willing to criticize him in public. And, you know, here's the thing. For all of his, like, I'll stand up, you still gave it to him, Elon. Like, you didn't actually

back down. So, I don't know. You know, it just shows you like how powerful they really are in the zeitgeist. Well, one thing that is not controversial

would be bringing Starlink capability to my home in rural Virginia. So it's something we can all get behind. I checked the map for you. It's coming in 2023. You can see what that is. Allegedly. Okay.

All right, Tucker, what are you looking at? Well, everyone here knows I never miss a chance for a history lesson. So I thought in the midst of one of the most extraordinary moments in UFO history, it's important we take a step back. Look at the past behavior of the U.S. government on this topic as we attempt to parse all of what we know right now in real time. There's a lot of disbelief right now as to how the U.S. government can shoot down three objects in the course of three days and basically tell us nothing about what's going on. But sadly, it actually fits a long-time pattern of our government hiding the truth from us,

and in many cases, obfuscating extraordinary events in the hope that we will lose interest and just move on. It's worth noting this has been a feature, not a bug, about UFOs from the very beginning, starting at Roswell. Let's review the basic facts. We know that in the summer of 1947, a New Mexico rancher found debris from a crashed object on his land after several UFO flying discs sightings were reported all over New Mexico. The debris was brought by the rancher to Roswell Airfield, where the commander on site inspected it and put out a statement saying, quote, the many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality after the examination of the debris. And then the next day, the government reversed themselves,

saying, no, no, no, no, it wasn't a flying saucer or a flying disc. Actually, it was a weather balloon. Here's a photo for you. They stuck to that story for 50 years, when in 1994, they said after the Cold War, actually wreckage from Roswell, it was part of a classified US government program known as Project Mogul. And it was a high altitude balloon equipped with microphones that were designed to secretly float over the Soviet Union. They came up with the weather balloon story as a decoy. Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But Roswell set the tone for which UFOs would be treated by the U.S. government. Lives, obfuscations, sophisticated programs designed to keep as much

information from the public as secret as possible. Despite the fallout of Roswell, UFO sightings, they didn't stop. Not from normal people. Pilots themselves were forcing the Air Force and the U.S. military to create a task force dedicated to studying the UFO phenomenon. And this took on a few phases. It began in 1947. There was Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book. I'm skipping over a lot of history here, but the most extraordinary thing to occur during this initial phase is an alleged document that was known as the, quote, Estimate of the Situation. It was written sometime, if it ever existed, in 1948. After analyzing several incidents. This document, alleged by the Project Sign member and former Air Force Captain Edward Ruppelt, concluded that the UFO phenomenon was extraterrestrial life.

The report was approved by the group that was studying the phenomenon before being rejected out of hand by the Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force. Then a critical incident happened. The 1952 UFO scare right over Washington, D.C., right here. Seven blips were spotted on the radar. Air traffic controllers at Reagan National Airport, one was moving at a very high rate of speed that was irregular. U.S. Air Force pilots were dispatched to intercept the object. They claimed they saw it with their own eyes, narrowly missed them. The radar signal was verified at nearby bases, military bases, in a frantic search. They still couldn't find him. A week later, the exact same thing happened again. And the headlines at the time screamed about flying disks, saucers, pilots, outflow of US jets. And the press for once was actually trying to do its job. They were hammering

the Truman administration, the Pentagon. They needed to provide answers. So what does the government do? What it does best? It lied. First, the Pentagon. They needed to provide answers. So what does the government do? What it does best? It lied. First, the general responsible for answering questions about the incident obfuscated every single detail possible from the press before landing on the preferred explanation that they have today. It was a, quote, temperature inversion, an explanation that holds no weight at all and

one that they landed on after frantically searching internally for something that they could use that might stop people from asking questions. The second thing they did was they convened a new group. It is known to history as the, quote, Robertson Panel. The panel was put together by the CIA in a joint advisory committee tasked with understanding UFOs. Now, instead of actually understanding UFOs, they reached a different conclusion.

Actually, what they needed to do is a public education campaign to convince the American public that UFOs were nonsense, to weaponize the press, use prominent people in pop culture and media, including the Walt Disney Corporation, to convince Americans that UFOs

were not a threat to American national security and that only cranks believed in them. This was at the height of CIA power in America when they involved all sorts of insane black ops here in American soil, experimenting on American citizens to try and find a path to mind control. It set the tone from that day forward from Project Blue Book, where the sole purpose of the project was to stigmatize UFOs, bury the evidence, cover it up, twist American public opinion away from any curiosity. And the reason I'm taking you through this torturous history is because this legacy of secrecy pervades the entire Pentagon today. We are really supposed

to believe we had three UFOs shot down in 72 hours. There's not one photo of that wreckage. This is in an age where we knowingly put hellfire missiles in moving cars in Afghanistan and have had that capability for over 20 years. Keep this in mind. This is after an extraordinary five years where we have literal video evidence of insane objects moving at high rates of speed. We have pilots on the record in the media believing that they saw something extraordinary and they have receipts to back it up. After all of that, they still drag their feet.

Two congressionally mandated reports release as little information to us as humanly possible. At the same time, they fulfill the Robertson panel dreams. They have stigmatized UFOs to the American public using the media as their mouthpiece. Watch this clip that we showed you earlier. The White House telling us, there's no evidence of alien spacecraft. Don't worry about it. The press corps, they giggle like little school children.

I know there have been questions and concerns about this, but there is no, again, no indication of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. Again, there is no indication of aliens or terrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. Wanted to make sure that the American people knew that, all of you knew that, and it was important for us to say that from here because we've been hearing a lot about it. The Robertson panel could have barely dreamed of a more compliant press corps than what you have

right there. The good thing, though, is we do have the internet on our side and the ability to ask questions that we couldn't before. Maybe there's a benign explanation for what these aircraft that we shot down are. But one thing you should be sure of, don't believe any of the assurances from the US government on any of this. And anyway, that's where I come down. I don't think people really know the history. And look, I know that it sounds crazy, but like- And if you want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at BreakingPoints.com. What are you taking a look at? Well, guys, the fallout continues over what could be the largest

public corruption scandal in history. Now, as you will recall, various politically connected individuals in the state of Mississippi, including former NFL star Brett Favre, are accused of stealing a combined total of some $70 to $90 million that was intended for needy welfare recipients. Now, the brazen details of the scandal are truly shocking. Favre alone is said to have pocketed a million dollars in speaking fees for talks he never gave and was working with a politically connected charity to have a multi-million dollar volleyball stadium for his daughter financed out of those welfare funds. Now, Favre denies wrongdoing. He says he didn't have any idea where this money was coming from. I put that disclaimer up top because I don't want

to get sued. And apparently Favre is in a litigious mood. He is now suing two commentators who opined on the matter and even the Mississippi State Auditor, I guess, for daring to uncover Favre's alleged fraud. So here are the details. Favre has filed defamation lawsuits against sports commentator Shannon Sharp and Pat McAfee, along with State Auditor Shad White. Apparently, he's upset with Shannon Sharp for saying that Favre was a, quote, sorry mofo to steal from the lowest of the low and that Favre, quote, stole money from people that really needed that money. Favre is also upset with Mc, and that Favre, quote, stole money from people that really needed that money. Now, Favre is also upset with McAfee

for calling him a, quote, thief and for saying Favre was, quote, stealing from poor people in Mississippi. As for the state auditor, the suit accuses White of shamelessly and falsely attacking Favre's good name. Now, perhaps, if you don't want to have your good name attacked,

don't try to pilfer welfare funds to build your daughter a stadium. Allegedly. There are, though, other reasons why Favre's good name may have already been sullied as well, but I digress from that. For his part, Pat McAfee doesn't seem particularly fazed by the legal threats here. And I'm no legal analyst, but probably has good reason to feel fairly confident. It's hard to imagine that McAfee's commentary on publicly reported events about a very high profile person are going to meet the high legal bar for defamation. Here in part was McAfee's mocking response.

We take a lot of pride in our work. We had to cover that situation. And we certainly said allegedly, and a lot of people are wondering how my lawyers are gonna handle this. You know it, I ain't got them. So let's ride this fucker. I'm excited to see how it goes. I'll see you in court, pal. Cheers to everybody and cheers

for Feel Good Friday not being ruined at all by that. See you in court, pal. Now, if I had to guess, Favre's lawsuits are less about actually winning a case in court, which again seems highly unlikely, and more about scaring other journalists and commentators away from talking about him. Judging by me writing this monologue, it's not working all that well. But there is, if anything, even more fallout in the political world, which is larger than the sports world. As you're probably aware, Mississippi is a red state. Democrat hasn't even come close to winning for governor there since Republican Haley Barber took the office in 2004. Now, when you think of competitive swing states, it's not exactly what comes to mind. But this scandal could be turning

politics in Mississippi upside down because the current governor, Ryan Grim lookalike Republican Tate Reeves, is deeply connected both to the scandal itself and to an apparent cover-up. And he happens to be up for re-election this very year. So far, that re-elect is off to a pretty rocky start. Bombshell new poll by Tolchin Research actually has a Republican incumbent, Reeves, down four points to the Democratic nominee, Brandon Presley. Reeves' approval rating has tanked in connection with this scandal, and voters by an overwhelming two-to-one margin have a dim view of his handling of it. It's no wonder they're disgusted because Reeves is deeply implicated in not only the scandal, but again, a purported cover-up. First of all, Reeves is part of the same political machine as the previous governor, Phil Bryant,

under whom this multi-million dollar welfare scandal all unfolded. In fact, Reeves was not just a civilian bystander to the whole corrupt affair. He was lieutenant governor at the time and had himself benefited from the political patronage of one of the main accused wrongdoers in this whole scheme. Second of all, Reeves' own personal trainer is alleged to have received $1.3 million in payments out of the welfare money. And lo and behold, text messages strongly suggest that Tate Reeves himself directed those payments. Reporting from Mississippi Today reveals that the alleged scheme to provide the money to the trainer was described as, quote, the lieutenant governor's fitness issue. Again, the lieutenant

governor being Tate Reeves. But what is most infuriated the Mississippi public is what appears to be a cover up. Reeves fired a lawyer who was working to recoup the stolen welfare funds after that lawyer issued subpoenas, which could have proved politically damaging to the former governor or to Tate Reeves himself. That subpoena asked for documents from the University of Southern Mississippi's Athletic Foundation, and the board of that foundation just happens to be chock full of Tate Reeves supporters and Tate Reeves donors. Reeves fired that lawyer near days after the subpoena was issued. This corruption scandal is not just some side issue in the campaign either. It's blown up into one of the top issues in this campaign in the whole state, and understandably so. Voters are rightly disgusted with a political class that used money intended for the state's neediest

to instead pad their own lavish lifestyles and reward their political cronies. In this poll, 93% of respondents had at least heard something about this scandal. Now, I don't know much about the Democrat Brandon Presley. He seems like a decent candidate for the state. He was state utility regulator. He blocked rate increases, benefited consumers there. He's born and raised in a small town in Mississippi, pro-life and pro-gun for what it's worth. He apparently is Elvis's cousin, Presley, Presley, you see. It's a test case over whether public revulsion to this looting of the public purse can actually overcome the state's usual partisan tilt. We will find out in November. The Brett Favre thing is unbelievable. First of all, the gall of this man to sue them.

And if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at breakingpoints.com. Joining me now is a good friend, Jeremy Corbell. He's an independent journalist. He's released some of the most important videos regarding this. Of course, we had to talk with Jeremy about this entire situation. So Jeremy, there's been an explosion of public interest in UFOs after the last couple of days and these extraordinary shoot downs. Just want to get your reaction to everything that's happening here, not only in the interest of the topic writ large, but also this specific instances. What are you thinking about this? Yeah, well, look, the moment this began, people started texting me, is this war of the worlds?

Is this confirmation? Are they finally dealing with this elusive, what they call UAP now, which is just UFO, same thing. Are we dealing with this mystery publicly forward facing? Unfortunately, the answer is no. The disorganization is incredible. We know there are balloons. We know there are Chinese spy balloons. This is

something that has been happening for decades, this specific type. So what we're dealing with is the media all of a sudden grabbing on to these very specific words and terminology, just trying to make everybody feel like this is a new thing. If we really cared about security in the United States on the level, we're not going to shoot a missile at a balloon. We're going to deal with, for example, what happened in 2019 that is still unresolved. And I think I've proven the case very recently by bringing witnesses forward, direct eyewitnesses, that these UAPs, unidentified anomalous phenomena, that they're under intelligent control by some actor who we don't know who it is, but we can exclude China, Russia, U.S.

I mean, you name it, we can exclude it. So what are we not saying here? So the current events, dude, it's like this. This has been going on a long time. If we care about security, we would deal with the hacks to our cell phones before we would even care about a balloon enough to shoot it down on national television with a missile, which we barely hit, by the way. Yeah, that's right. Well, and how do the pilot descriptions and the limited pieces of information that we have gotten in terms of, you know, descriptions of these objects, how do those match up with previous reports and sightings?

Right. That's a really important distinguishing quality here is that the UAP phenomenon, it's going on all the time and it's over decades, if not generations. So what pilots are seeing and saying now with these particular events, it is not as extraordinary as what we have heard from, let's say, Commander David Fravor, Commander Underwood, Lieutenant Ryan Graves. But look, what we're seeing is really nothing that I see as particularly anomalous. They are saying strange words to try to inflame the UFO community. I think that that is intentional because what we are actually shooting down so far has been just really standard. Let's reflect on what's happened.

Let's go back because we're talking about spherical things. George Knapp and I, we released something called the Mosul Orb. This is the first piece of military film clearly identified as UAP. This is from within a classified briefing, like a lot of the stuff that I've been able to put out, but it is inherently unclassified. That's why I can put it out. So we put this out. This is an object that is from a four-second video.

It's two seconds slowed down. And this is from a reconnaissance plane over Northern Iraq, Mosul. That's why they call it the Mosul Orb. This was identified by our UAPTF, which was the task force dealing with the unidentified anomalous phenomena, as classified UAP, meaning it's got some sort of propulsion, some reason why it was brought into that category. And if you get to see the video, if people do their job and you can see the video, you're going to know we know what balloons are. We know what those are. We don't classify those UAP.

So now you've got a spherical object over a conflict zone. For the first time, the public is seeing the people that are really working this within our government, they said, this is transmedium. These were coming in and out of the water. And indeed, I have direct reports from people who saw that at that time. So what you're seeing, Crystal, you asked the question, what you're seeing right now is a complete rewriting of our standards of rules of engagement. In 2019, if this was Chinese technology, do you think it would have gotten much more coverage? We now see what happens when we simply pop a balloon with a missile from another country. We see the press coverage. What did we not see in 2019? We had nine pieces of corroborative

visual evidence that I provided with George to the public and mass media. We didn't see this, and we still don't know the origin, intent, or capability of those objects at that time. Where did they come from? Where did they launch? Where did they land? No propulsion system that we can see. And you can see that yourself in that FLIR footage, the black and white footage. That's thermal. You should be able to see flight control surfaces, rotor wash, heat dispersing from a propulsion system. That is not a balloon. That is not something out of control. That is something in controlled flight by an unknown operator. And that slide you're showing right now, that slide was also within a classified briefing

but is inherently unclassified. And it says it right there for you, that they suspect it to be transmedium. Yeah, I mean, yeah, look, this is why I thought it was important to bring you on. And in our coverage, you know, it's difficult to distinguish as well. We were like, look, you know, in some of these cases, we're not talking about anything that is even close to as anomalous or described, like you said, by Commander David Fravor or Ryan Graves. One of the things we've been trying to pick up on, Jeremy, is just the level of government

obfuscation around keeping as much detail from the public as possible. That's something that you have dealt with now through this entire period. You've spoken previously on the Joe Rogan podcast and elsewhere about how we've actually fired on UAPs, UFOs, whatever you want to call it. These incidents have been covered up by the government. Can you just lay that out for people? I did some of my monologue on this, the level of secrecy and really just the lack of willingness, at least until very recently, to actually want to deal with this issue. Yeah. So look, there was a heroic thing, which is where Representative Carson put together the first UFO congressional hearing in 53 years, actually, I think was the amount of time. So there are people

that want to address this soberly and straight on. But the stigma, that is really the thing. It's very bizarre. The stigma is what causes, as far as I can see so far, a lot of the lack of journalism and the pre-bunking that is done on the UFO phenomenon. But even within our mechanisms of government, it's really stigma. It's like, we don't want to admit what's right in front of us, the UAP issue, because it has all of this baggage. But look, you have objects of unknown origin

flying with impunity in a restricted airspace. We need to deal with it. Now, there is directed disinformation and misinformation about the UFO topic. And I have dealt with that specifically and personally. I'll give you an example. The only spokesperson for the UAP topic that the public has is Susan Goh, Susan Goh at the Pentagon. Now, her statements have not only been misleading to the American public, other than when she did confirm, I think because it's so obvious

that what I obtained and released was government film footage from active UFO investigations and did show true UAP. There has been an attempt to try to be very unclear to the American public, and she's doing that right now. Whoever is telling her to do it is who we should find out. That image I put out, the Mosul orb, is really important. When it comes to shoot downs, I have talked about it and I have said, and everybody got real upset at me over a long time, we are constantly shooting at unknowns. But the rules of engagement is that it's usually over conflict zones. It's when these objects,, by the way, Russia and Syria also fire upon, so we know it's not their units. But that happens because of the proximity of UAP to ground troops.

That's one of the criteria of why they'll fire on it. But now we're seeing it over the U.S. And we don't know if these things, even if they are balloons, which most of them are, you know, we don't know if they're manned or unmanned. So the shoot down thing, look, I don't have a crystal ball. Right. But why I know that is because I've been I've been exposed to reports and briefings. That's why I could say it before it became something everybody else was talking about nationally. Got it. I wonder what you make of the theory that this is all sort of like a PSYOP, it's like a shiny object to keep

us all talking and distracted while, you know, some other major event is unfolding. People have been pointing to the train derailment in Ohio that hasn't gotten a lot of media attention. What do you make of that argument that not just these instances, but other reported instances, are also part of some broader government PSYOP. Yeah, I wish I could report to you that we have a well-oiled machine where the deception is really well done. I always feel like I should be, as a journalist, a few steps ahead of the BS, right?

Well, I'm about 20, and that's concerning. That's very concerning. So this idea that there's a PSYOPs and we're trying to distract people, that's just not true. You've got maybe on a low level, sure, very, very low, like Susan Goh at the Pentagon, whoever's telling her not to confirm certain things. But on the broad picture, I think people are really trying their best. I have met some great people within the different departments that basically say, we want to be forward facing on this issue. We realize that the pilots are having to deal with this.

So that was why you saw that forward. Great movement. Congressman Gallagher came up, really threw down for the American public in that UFO hearing. He's kind of like a hero to a lot of people in the world interested in facing this topic. So I don't feel that it's a well-orchestrated and oiled machine of deception. I would like to believe that we were that sophisticated, but I think the bureaucracy, like I'm nimble. I'm on my feet as a journalist. And that's why I think journalists like myself, we can get better briefings than people in Congress or Senate, which is kind of scary. Right. Yeah, I think that's what's

so important. My last question, Jeremy, is what should people look for in the coming days, not only about the shoot downs, but overall on the topic and where can they learn even more about this? Sure. So I started a new show called Weaponized Podcast with my mentor in journalism, George Knapp, and we have been breaking news with each episode. So what you can expect is more direct military film, UAPI-designated imagery and video, as well as a bunch of great conversations and people coming forward. You call them whistleblowers, you know, I would say they're just telling the truth. So you expect a lot of that. Weaponizedpodcast.com. Yeah. Awesome. All right.

Well, we'll have a link down there to the description. Jeremy, really appreciate you taking the time. I know you had to get up early for us. It means a lot. And we rely on you heavily. So thank you. Great talking to you, Jeremy. Thank you for covering this, both of you.

Thank you for covering it. Absolutely. Our pleasure. At the same time, Sagar, we have some domestic political news breaking this morning. I know you're very excited because the former South Carolina governor and ambassador to the U.N. under Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, has announced she is officially running for president. It's happening, people. It's all happening. I thought we'd give you a little taste of her announcement video, and Sagar and I will react on the other side. Take a look.

It's a great day in South Carolina. It's a great day. It's a great day. A great day. A great day in South Carolina. We were strong. We were proud. Republicans have lost the popular vote in seven out of the last eight presidential elections. That has to change. Joe Biden's record is abysmal, but that shouldn't come as a surprise. The Washington establishment has failed us over and over and over again. It's time for a new generation of leadership. You should know this about me. I don't put up with bullies. And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you're wearing heels. I'm Nikki Haley and I'm running for president. Oh my God. Who gave this woman the impression that anybody gives a shit about her high heels?

I don't understand it. Like, where did this become a meme? And look, sadly, I actually do know the answer. There is a group of cringe girl boss, conservative feminist, anti-feminist more types on twitter who are like you go nikki whenever they all thought that stupid ass photo of her raising her hand was like some great big own towards russia and china look i don't know what to even say i'm glad the brown ceiling is getting broken congratulations republicans definitely have their

own identity oh yeah that's that's what all this Look, this lady doesn't have a chance in hell. I mean, that ad, it's like written by ChatGPT. It's like most replacement. That's so funny. I was going to say the exact same thing. It's like if you typed into AI, like, make me a generic Republican political video for a woman of color. You're right. That's it.

This is what you would get. I hope that the technology is advanced enough to make the voice a little bit less robotic than what Nikki Haley is going on there, though. She tweeted this out with her comment was,

get excited, time for a new generation. Let's do this! Exclamation point with the fist bump and the American flag. And I just think one sure sign that a politician stands for absolutely nothing

is when they talk about a new generation. Yes, good point. It's a guarantee that what they really mean is, let's do the same old crap we've been doing just with like a slightly younger person. This was a Pete Buttigieg pitch last time around. You know, nothing wrong, like great to get new blood, all that, whatever.

But if you're leaning into my whole case is that my age is different than the person in power, like you're lacking a lot in terms of like principles and values and actually something different for the country. Nikki Haley is an unreconstructed neoconservative on foreign policy. In 2019, she gave a speech called, it now is not the time to give up on capitalism where she attacked Josh Hawley and Oren Kass and a few others, friends of mine, at least, in the case of Oren, specifically for rethinking crazy policies like maybe hedge funds are bad, maybe private equity isn't as good as what it does, and tax cuts for these filthy rich billionaires aren't the best, most apt policy priority. Maybe that's why the financial

billionaire Paul Singer happens to be bankrolling her entire campaign. The man literally cares about two things, or three things from what I hear. CRT, okay, whatever. I guess we can be fine on that one. Israel, that's one he cares about a lot. And financial regulation, making sure that you are protected on those fronts. On those two, or at least two of those three, you can be guaranteed that Nikki Haley is, like, lockstep. It's hilarious, too, how she attacks the establishment. You are the Republican establishment. What are you talking about?

A lot of her videos just, like, some people say America's bad, but I think America's good. It's like, wow. Okay, wow. Bold stance there, Nicky. Way to go. So it'll be interesting, you know, to watch how this all unfolds. You have a big cast of characters that is looking at getting into it. We talked yesterday.

Tim Scott is now, looks like he's going to jump into the race. Glenn Youngkin looks like he's going to get in. Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, nobody cared, but he got in the race as well. Mike Pence, obviously, and Ron DeSantis as the only one of them that has any real chance at this whole thing. But the thing that I'm fascinated with is how they're all going to approach Trump, right? I mean, clearly her line here about like, it's time for a new generation. And she makes that comment about, you know, we've been losing the popular vote, which even that, I mean, you're dealing with a Republican base that 60 to 70 percent of them thinks that the 2020 election was stolen. So they don't even agree with you there, number one.

And number two, like the new generation thing, it's just not it's not a successful attack line. People's problem with Donald Trump is not actually his age. There's a problem with Joe Biden because he shows his age a lot more than Trump does. Trump has this weird, like, I don't know, it does feel like this dude

is just going to haunt us forever and never go away. But yeah, I think if that's what you're trying to lean into in terms of any kind of a contrast with Donald Trump, good luck. I mean, Lord knows what he's going to ultimately do. There is no evidence that anybody wants a new generation.

By the way, I want a new generation, but here's the deal. People my age, they really just don't vote. Unfortunately, I wish it was differently, but that's just the case. It's mostly boomers who vote and they like Trump. They also voted for Biden. All right. So the two most likely people to be on the ballot are both going to be 80 something years old. Should they serve that term in office. Let that sink in because while many people may not want that, they're not

actively involved in the political process, especially with the Republican base. You have to win a primary. There is not one shred iota of evidence that they give a damn at all about you being young, about you being new, What they care about is your high heels. I don't think they particularly, you know, they never seem to have cared before. What they do care about is your ability to piss off the press and the Republican establishment. Now, that's why Ron DeSantis has an actual chance,

because the press hates him. And look, the Republican establishment, not so much, but at least they haven't come out full force behind him yet. That's why Trump won the election. So look, if she doesn't have a chance, this will be a fun way to watch Paul Singer waste his money. I guess at least it will go into the hands of well-heeled political consultants here in Washington. But it's pathetic, and we will only likely see more of this as Tim Scott and Mike Pompeo and all these other narcissists think that any of us

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