Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 6/24/24: Biden Panics As Dems Boycott Bibi Speech, Biden Greenlights Hezbollah War, New Tapes Expose 9/11 Saudi Conspiracy

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

Krystal and Saagar discuss Biden panics as Dems boycott Bibi speech, Biden greenlights Lebanon invasion, new tapes expose Saudi 9/11 involvement.    To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and wa...tch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: https://breakingpoints.com/   Merch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 boycott that speech. And we happen to have one of those members of Congress who will not be attending with us, Congressman Ro Khanna. Great to see you again. Always good to be on set. Yeah, we love to have you here. Let's go ahead and put this up on the screen. This is kind of amazing to me. It's the headline here. No one knows what he's going to say. White House fears mount about Bibi's D.C. visit.
Starting point is 00:03:35 White House has reportedly grown anxious about his upcoming address. They're worried he could directly criticize Joe Biden in front of Congress, which I just, just get your reaction to this because this is like the most predictable thing in the world to me. It's no secret Bibi Netanyahu would rather have Donald Trump in office. So what were they even thinking about the Democrats joining with the Republicans to invite him in to address a joint session here? It's bewildering and a malpractice. I know exactly what he's going to say because he's put out videos criticizing the president and criticizing the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And he's going to go there and basically give an implicit endorsement of the Republican Party and Donald Trump. I don't understand why any Democrat would sit there and applaud for Netanyahu doing this, putting aside even the more urgent moral question, which is that he's prosecuted this war in a horrendous way with civilian lives lost. So my hope is and my expectation is that you're going to have 100 Democrats not go. Jim Clyburn, who's not traditionally the progressive Democrat, is actually talking about having an alternative forum to put something constructive out about the Middle East and peace and ending this war and releasing the hostages. Congressman, talk to us a little bit about that. So President Biden, he famously, like maybe he
Starting point is 00:04:54 won't listen to the progressive members, but he's going to listen to Jim Clyburn. Clearly, a huge portion of his coalition, people like Chris Van Hollen and others have spoken out against the war. You will have more insight into us. What explains Biden's, uh, the bear hug strategy, despite, I mean, Bibi in many ways has been more disrespectful to president Biden than he almost was to Barack Obama. So what explains the affinity there, both between Biden, the state of Israel, and then the people around him too, who don't necessarily have the same generational connection? Well, Barack Obama was actually a break from the traditional, unconditional support of even the far-right government of Israel. It doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:31 seem like it because we've only wanted to go even further for two states. But Biden has always been more aligned with Netanyahu. He's always been unconditional in his support of Israel since 1972. So he comes at this from a different generational perspective. And then when he has in any way broken from unconditional, absolute support of Netanyahu, he's gotten criticized by the ADL, by AJC, by the Northern Federation of Jewish Americans. And so I think that his people are looking at this and saying, well, we want to play it safe. But what they aren't realizing is they're upsetting everyone. And that the real solution here is an end to the war
Starting point is 00:06:14 and a release of the hostages that I still believe President Biden can effectuate. Yeah. So let's actually dig into that. Let's put B2 up on the screen. So as you know, as you alluded to, Prime Minister Netanyahu put on a video in English, by the way, claiming that the Biden administration was slow walking critical weapons. I mean, I wish that was the case. But as far as we know, there has been one shipment of 2,000 pound bombs that they haven't even
Starting point is 00:06:40 blocked. They've just sort of slow rolled it. Bibi again doubled down. He said there's been a, quote, dramatic drop in US weapons deliveries for Israel's war effort in Gaza. This in spite of the fact, again, the White House really rejects that. I'm going to put B3 up on the screen. They say they reject these new accusations. We aren't going to keep responding to the prime minister's political statements. We look forward to constructive consultations with Defense Minister Gallant in Washington this week. He's here this week. He also is under looming indictment from the International Criminal Court for war crimes as well, Yoav Gallant as well. So, you know, just speak a little bit to what the Biden administration is thinking
Starting point is 00:07:21 about here and what could possibly shift their orientation? Because as you're pointing out, I mean, they've done everything that the Israelis have wanted them to do. Every time there's been a red line drawn, like with regard to Rafah, they've walked away from it and let Israel move forward. We're about to talk in the next segment about this looming war with Hezbollah, which we've seemed to have effectively given a green light to. So, you know, is there a red line? What would it take to actually change the policy here? Well, for me and many progressives, the biggest issue is the morality, the issue that 37,000 civilians have died, that Netanyahu continues to bomb sites where women and children are being killed.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But putting that aside, if you're an average American, ordinary American, you're looking at the president of the United States being bullied. And this is, I think, the biggest issue that the president doesn't look strong. I mean, Netanyahu puts out a video basically punching the administration in the gut. And the president's response isn't that Netanyahu isn't telling the truth. The president's response is we look forward to a constructive conversation with Gallant. I mean, at some point, Bill Clinton said America is the superpower and we're going to act like the superpower.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And yes, Israel is an ally, but we're going to call the shots. And I actually think that that is the biggest issue that the administration is facing, that it looks like not only is he bear-hugging Netanyahu, but that he's not an active, aggressive, assertive actor on the world stage. He tried to do that with the peace plan for finally calling for a permanent ceasefire, which I supported, but it needs more teeth. He needs to have the ability to get it done. What are the levers he could use? Because what you'll hear from his defenders is, well, he tried. He's trying. He wants a ceasefire. He gave a speech. What are the actual levers that could put pressure on the Israelis to change course? Because clearly the speech isn't enough.
Starting point is 00:09:11 The, you know, leaks to Barack Ravid and other reporters that like, oh, they're having tough conversations behind the scenes. Obviously that's not enough. So what are some of the affirmative levers that the U.S., that the president of the United States could use to actually change behavior here? I could do what 37 House Democrats voted to do, which is to stop offensive weapons to Netanyahu. He could get aid across into Gaza. I mean, what is Israel going to stop American tanks, American convoys from going in with aid? Of course, we could get aid into Gaza if we wanted to. He could be much more assertive at the United Nations, but he could just tell Netanyahu, look, you're going to end the war
Starting point is 00:09:51 or I'm going to say that both you and Hamas aren't coming to the table. So far, every statement is Hamas isn't coming to the table. And that is correct. I mean, look, they need to continue to put pressure on Hamas. I mean, Hamas is not some angelic actor here, but there's never been a statement saying, well, look, Netanyahu continues to have an aim of the eradication of Hamas, and he's not coming to the table. You know who said that? Benny Gantz. Benny Gantz is actually willing to say that Netanyahu is enacting in good faith there. So this is a very important point. Let's put this up there because we have the actual statement you referenced, which is the White House official rejecting Netanyahu's new accusation. He says,
Starting point is 00:10:32 we aren't going to keep responding to the prime minister's political statements. We look forward to constructive consultations with the defense minister in Washington this week. That seems to me a tacit admission that the Israelis rely almost entirely at this point on U.S. provided weapons. Can you give us insight into that and then what any future incursion in Lebanon would look like? Could that, you know, invite a Biden administration so-called cutoff? Because that appears to me, you know, a far more dangerous situation, perhaps even than what's happening in Gaza right now. It is. And the administration keeps saying, well, what has worked is we've avoided a regional war. Well, now it looks like we aren't even avoiding a regional war. And that is why what we need to do is make it clear to Gallen, to Netanyahu,
Starting point is 00:11:16 that we're going to stop the offensive weapons. They need to come with a permanent ceasefire and a release of hostages. Now, if they agree to those terms, and Hamas still does not agree to release of hostages. Now, if they agreed to those terms and Hamas still does not agree to release the hostages, it'll be clear for the world to see that Israel was willing to do everything to stop the war and Hamas still isn't acting. But they've never put the pressure on Netanyahu to do that. And that is the only thing that's going to stabilize the Middle East. It's the only thing, in my view, that is going to help the president also politically is bringing this war to an end. Yeah, well, and that's a key point because
Starting point is 00:11:50 we don't really have leverage with Hamas. We don't fund Hamas, right? We don't have, you know, the sort of diplomatic tools we can use with Hamas. Israel is wholly dependent on us, both diplomatically and directly in terms of weapons, to continue their prosecution of the war. So I think that's really key for people ultimately to understand. Going back to this speech to Congress from Netanyahu, what is your prediction of how many Democrats boycott? You mentioned that Congressman Clyburn is planning some alternative forum, etc. Take us inside some of the plans that are happening on the Democratic side of the aisle among people who are not going to attend to try to expose what's going on and dissent from the Biden administration policy. Well, just to be clear, this speech is going to be a one-way
Starting point is 00:12:35 lecture by Netanyahu criticizing the Democratic Party, criticizing our president, and supporting implicitly Donald Trump and Republicans. I just don't see how, as a Democratic congressperson, you can show up and applaud that and stand up again and again and applaud that. So I hope and expect that over 100 Democrats aren't going to show up, 100 House Democrats. It was about 60 for when he came, when Obama was president. And what Representative Clyburn is talking about is having a constructive conversation with Jewish Americans, Palestinian Americans, and others about what a two-state solution looks like, a secure Israel, a secure Palestine, and having the Gulf allies involved in getting there, having the United States, in my view, recognize a Palestinian state
Starting point is 00:13:25 that 143 other countries have done, but having a constructive vision. Look, I talk to everyone. You know that. I go on all the shows. And I've said I would be fine in a group talking to Netanyahu. But what I'm not going to do
Starting point is 00:13:38 is sit there and applaud while he tells blatant untruths like he has on the video. Yeah, I think that's well said. I also wanted to ask you, Congressman, obviously you're supporting Joe Biden for reelection. There are many young people who feel that his support of what they and I and many other international observers
Starting point is 00:13:55 see as a genocide is a red line in terms of morality. You know, what's your message to them? And also for you, is there a red line beyond what you would say? You know what? Listen, on these issues, I do feel like he's better than Trump, but this is just a red line morally for me. I cannot support someone who is complicit in a genocide. I understand people's frustration, their moral concerns, and I certainly can't lecture them to make a choice.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And I also think that the administration's underestimating this issue in terms of the outcome. They look at the polls and they say it's only one or two percent of people who care. What they don't realize is that among the organizers, among the activists, this is the only thing people are talking about. So if you want to get the president's message out on health care, on rent, on the economy, you're not being able to do it or on climate because all the groups are talking about Palestine. My message to them is at the end of the day, I want peace there. I want a Palestinian state living side by side with an Israel state. And I believe that we have a much better chance of making progress towards that with a Joe Biden
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Starting point is 00:21:13 So we have a bunch of additional Israel updates for you as well. As I mentioned before, Defense Minister Yoav Galant is in town for meetings that are supposed to, in particular, take a look at what is going on with Israel's potential all-out war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. You can put this up on the screen. Very troubling signs here coming from the administration in particular. U.S. officials, this reporter for CNN writes, have not explicitly told Israel they oppose any attack against Hezbollah, but warned it could lead to a greater war. A U.S. official said Israel's made the case it can pull off a, quote, blitzkrieg. The U.S. is not so sure. Let me give you a little bit more of that CNN reporting. They specifically say senior U.S. officials reassured a delegation of top Israeli officials visiting Washington this week that if a full-out
Starting point is 00:22:02 war were to break out on Israel's northern border between Israel and Hezbollah, the Biden administration is fully prepared to back its ally, according to a senior administration official. And this looks more and more like a possibility, if not a guarantee, that they are headed towards this all-out war. Sagar, I'm sure you probably saw Netanyahu over the weekend indicating that they are headed towards this all-out war. Sagar, I'm sure you probably saw Netanyahu over the weekend indicating that they may be shifting to a different phase in terms of Gaza. They had a number of horrific, deadly strikes over the weekend. We'll bring you in a moment.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But they basically destroyed northern Gaza. They destroyed central Gaza. They've now destroyed southern Gaza. So there isn't a lot more of the Gaza Strip left to destroy. Bibi Netanyahu wants to continue to postpone that after the war conversation about what has gone wrong. He wants to continue to hold onto his grip of power. And so in his logic, now starting an all-out war against Hezbollah makes all of the political sense in the world, even as it is incredibly dangerous for Israelis. It's obviously incredibly dangerous for Lebanese civilians, and it's also
Starting point is 00:23:11 incredibly dangerous for our troops who are stationed in the region. It's way more dangerous for Israelis than anything that's been happening with Hamas. Let's put this up there, please, on the screen. And it shows, for example, just exactly what they are inviting. So two Israelis were already wounded yesterday by anti-tank fire from Lebanon. Netanyahu claiming that the, quote, intense part of Gaza fighting is almost over. But the anti-tank missiles and others have caused, Crystal, the entire northern part of Israel to be evacuated. And a lot of IDF soldiers have already lost their lives as a result of Hezbollahuated. And a lot of IDF soldiers have already lost their lives as a result of Hezbollah fire, and they allegedly are not even in a war, right? So this is a much,
Starting point is 00:23:52 much stronger group. There's also some fear here about potential, let's say, manufacturing consent, I guess is the best way, to try and draw Israel into the war, making claims about weapons being stored at the Beirut airport. The civilian Beirut airport. The civilian Beirut airport, which means what? Oh, that's a good justification to bomb it. And it's like, well, if we're bombing airports now, cutting off supplies in and out of the country, this just has a significantly bigger potential.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Not only do you have Lebanon, by the way, is an actual sovereign state, right? So there's that. Then Hezbollah has got fighters all across Syria. They have actual connections to Iran. They have much deeper pockets, and it could ignite a full-blown regional war and completely destabilize the entire region. There is another U.S. aircraft carrier heading to replace the USS Eisenhower in the Houthi mission. So there's more firepower that's on its way, I believe it's the USS Theodore Roosevelt. So the U.S. is still prepared in a real threat position for anything to pop off.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah, so with regard to that report you're talking about, which people are really looking at very skeptically, I'm just going to go. I think it's complete BS. But the Telegraph published this report that Hezbollah has been accumulating large quantities of Iranian weapons, missiles, and bombs at the Central Civilian Airport in Beirut, according to testimony that exposes corruption at the airport. They did not provide any other, it was just anonymous sources, no actual evidence that such a thing is occurring. Also very noteworthy, of course, the timing of this report being published in The Telegraph. Right now, Lebanon's airport authority denied the reports, said they presented no proof or evidence, added that the outlet bears all responsibility for the safety of airport staff and inviting media outlets to visit the airport to see for themselves.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And yeah, you could see the way very easily, the way this could be used as justification for bombing that airport. And then we've also seen the way Israel and Gaza, once they justified, for example, the bombing of one hospital, the raiding of one hospital, well, then it was open season on effectively all civilian infrastructure within Gaza. This is not just out of nowhere either. We've had multiple high-level Israeli officials going back to the beginning of this particular war, talking about how they could do to Lebanon what they've done to Gaza. So those threats have been made. They've been made very clearly. By the way, we shouldn't ignore the fact there have
Starting point is 00:26:21 already been tit-for-tat attacks between Hezbollah and Israel. You still have the entire population of northern Israel who have been relocated temporarily because of this ongoing fighting. You also had last week, we showed you that drone footage that Hezbollah was able to obtain, seemingly circumventing the Iron Dome defense system in order to record via drone some sensitive sites as effectively a threat against Israel if they go ahead and escalate the war. There was a quote from the head of Hezbollah saying something like there would be no ceiling, no limit, no rules, nothing out of bounds if we did go to that level. So this is a major, major threat that everyone should be deeply concerned about. And the fact that you don't even have the Biden administration,
Starting point is 00:27:12 you know, they say they want to avoid an all-out war, but they're also saying in the same breath, we've got your back if you do it. Like, we know how this plays out. Bibi doesn't care if you're like uncomfortable with it. What he might care about is if you actually cut off the weapons, if you actually pulled the diplomatic support. But we know very well that Biden is never going to do that. And, you know, part of the way that Israel has justified all of these assaults on civilians and civilian infrastructure in the Gaza Strip is Hamas uses people as human shields. And you could very much see them using the same
Starting point is 00:27:46 rhetoric vis-a-vis Hezbollah, this airport report being a prelude to that. Well, let's talk about human shields because put this video up on the screen. What you're looking at here is an IDF vehicle that has an injured human being, a Palestinian who was injured, tied to the hood of this vehicle. By the way, this isn't in Gaza. This is in the West Bank. Using an injured Palestinian here as a literal human shield here on video for everyone to see. So next time they tell you about human shields and they say, oh, this is under investigation, I'm sure they're going to get back to us on that. So I'm sure we'll hear a lot of accountability for these actions, which are totally out of line with
Starting point is 00:28:33 the most moral army in the world's typical actions. They said they will be investigating the incident. So yeah. Yeah, we'll hold our breath on that one. They'll be investigating the incident. At the same time, we've had a number of deadly strikes. We can put this up on the screen in both, really throughout the Gaza Strip. This one in particular shows the aftermath of the bombing of an UNRWA aid distribution center. The very last numbers I saw were that at least eight people were killed in that airstrike. We can put the next one up on the screen, which shows some of the details of an additional Israeli airstrike near Rafah. This actually occurred right in that humanitarian zone
Starting point is 00:29:16 where they've been telling people to flee al-Muwasi for months at this point. This article from the AP says the Israeli forces shelled tent camps for displaced Palestinians outside Gaza's southern city of Rafah on Friday, killing at least 25 people and wounding another 50, according to the territory's health officials and emergency workers. Witnesses whose relatives died in one of the bombardments near a Red Cross field hospital north of Rafah told the AP that Israeli forces fired a second volley that killed people who came out of their tents. So there was a first volley,
Starting point is 00:29:50 and then when people came out of their tents, where they were displaced in this supposedly safe zone, when they emerged, there was a second volley that then killed those people who came out of their tents. So the horrors in the Gaza Strip continue, and as I mentioned before, these are the sorts of things that they have threatened to unleash also on the Lebanese civilian population. Well, that's the terrifying part. It's just about the explosion about where things are. Yoav Galant here, literally in Washington, slowing up traffic this morning, by the way, Mr. Galant.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And he is here to what? Beg for more weapons and to set the ground for the Hezbollah campaign and Bibi's eventual visit here to Washington. So he's here to suss things out and to make sure – smooth things over with the Pentagon, make sure that the delivery schedules continue with ammunition and with all of the other weapons. But it does give us deep insight into how much Israel and its military actually does rely on U.S. resupply. So don't let anybody tell you that we don't have tremendous amounts of leverage. I know everyone knew that intuitively, but when the number one complaint is give us the weapons to finish the job, what does that tell you? It's like, oh, you don't have weapons to finish the job. And I also want to say, it really does erase a lot of Israeli myths and lies. I can tell you when I was over there, they used to brag so much about how self-sufficient
Starting point is 00:31:09 they were, about their military, and they're like, you guys have been funding us for all this time, but we've used that money to really invest in ourselves, and this, this, and that. And so, it's like, you guys can't even go 10 months into a war without getting your hand out for more weapon. What kind of military are you? It's like, look, you're like Ukraine, you know? But allegedly, what, you know, some great Silicon Valley startup nation. So there's a lot of lessons in that too about what this looks like. And, you know, to the congressman, and we just talked to Congressman Khanna's point about just the level of humiliation at this point is just like a certain point. Don't you just have any shame as a man? Like, it's so astonishing. Biden has done
Starting point is 00:31:47 everything that Bibi has wanted him to do. They slow walked one shipment of 2,000 pound bombs. That's it. Okay. And in spite of that, Bibi is clearly trying to undercut him, clearly trying to stab him in the back to keep him from getting reelected, puts on a video in English doing exactly as I described, doubles down on that then in Hebrew as well. And the Biden administration, first we get this report that they rescheduled a meeting because they were so upset. Oh, they rescheduled a meeting. Oh my goodness. Wow. But then once that report went out, then they were desperate to walk that back and go, no, no, we would never reschedule a meeting. We would never do that. And I promise we're giving them everything that they want whenever they want it.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Don't worry about it. Now they're having these meetings with Yoav Galant, clearly to try to reassure him that, of course, we'll give them all of the weapons they want to continue bombing civilians and under aid facilities and displace people in tents, etc. It's just, it's so pathetic. You think about the interview with Aaron Burnett, where he talked about, you know, RAFA was a red line and that we would, you know, reevaluate weapon shipments if they launch a major invasion into RAFA. Well, guess what? They've been in RAFA for how long now? How many weeks now? How many people have been killed? All those people that were, millions of people who were displaced in RAFA have either had to move or they're being directly bombed. And even when they've gone to the safe zones, they've also been bombed.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Not a word about that supposed red line. Then you had the ploy of we're going to put out the ceasefire proposal that the Israelis had sort of agreed to. Biden's going to give this big speech. He's going to lay out the ceasefire proposal. He's going to really frame it as this came from Israel. And so we're just waiting for Hamas. We just had Bibi come out and rebuke that, walk away from that ceasefire deal that purportedly came from him and say, no, we'll do a partial hostage release. And then we want to go back to war. We don't agree with that. Where is Biden's upset over their rebuke of his
Starting point is 00:33:40 every word, every, you know, insistence, every desire that he's put out there, they, Bibi in particular, seems to take particular glee in rebuking him directly, undercutting him, and humiliating him. It's horrible for his political prospects, which I don't really care about, but you would think that he would. It's horrible for, you know, Israeli interests even, and the interests of future security for Israelis. And it's obviously outrageously immoral and horrific for the people in Gaza. It's just incredible at this point. And it does go to Sagar also. I mean, this man is just like out of it and incapable of really, you know, having a commanding presence or any sort of commanding policy. He's sort of on autopilot.
Starting point is 00:34:25 This is what the autopilot instructions have. And so here we are. Yeah, I actually think that's a huge part of it is that whenever you're old, it's just, you know, expending energy, expending energy is difficult. So what do you do? You go to what is comfortable and you just stick with that. And I think that's a big part of why he even like allows so much of this to happen. I mean, I didn't think I'd ever be in his position, but even Obama did not take it upstanding. When Bibi came to Washington and shit all over his own foreign policy, he really took it, he did not take it well, reamed Bibi out in private during their meeting, gave a statement against the Israeli prime minister. His whole White House was geared up for war against the Israelis in the lobby
Starting point is 00:35:05 and AIPAC here in Washington, which they did beat. They actually beat them on the Iran deal. That doesn't exist this time around at all. I mean, Obama, it's not like it was great on Israel either. Yeah, they didn't say it was the best. His big brave moment was what? He didn't veto a UN resolution, a security council. In 2016, when he was on his way out the door.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But that does lose sight of the fact that the Iranian nuclear deal, Israel hated that. And Bibi Nainai in particular hated it. And he did accomplish that over AIPAC objections and over the direct objections of the Israelis. Clearly, Biden does not have that in him on any level whatsoever. Yeah, exactly. Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast, Hell and Gone, I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder.
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Starting point is 00:36:51 It's Black Music Month, and We Need to Talk is tapping in. I'm Nyla Simone, breaking down lyrics, amplifying voices, and digging into the culture that shaped the soundtrack of our lives. My favorite line on there was, my son and my daughter gonna be proud when they hear my old tapes. Now I'm curious, do they, like, rap along now? Yeah, because I bring him on tour with me, and he's getting older now, too. So his friends are starting to understand what that type of music is. And they're starting to be like, yo, your dad's, like, really the GOAT. Like, he's a legend.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So he gets it. What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy for your family? It means a lot to me. Just having a good catalog and just being able to make people feel good. Like, that's what's really important, and that's what stands out, is that our music changes people's lives for the better.
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Starting point is 00:41:21 All right, Sagar, what are you looking at? Well, I think it's probably fair to say I wouldn't be doing this job if it weren't for 9-11. 9-11, the Iraq War, and the Bush presidency spurred me into politics at a very young age because I grew up in a place where the full-on mass formation psychosis took hold. For a variety of reasons, it didn't work, but I watched people who I liked and even respected fully cheer on the war in Iraq by the Bush administration's lies. Well past the time, it was obvious that they had all fallen apart. 23 years later, though, it is now shocking even to an extreme cynic like me, the extent to which it is now just openly and publicly acknowledged that everything that we were told about 9-11 in the aftermath of the event was a lie, specifically with respect to the Saudi government and its outright involvement in the plot that killed over 3,000 innocent civilians. In the span of a few months now, absolutely shocking new information has come to light that reveals two things. One, the extent of the Saudi connection. It's as deep as the
Starting point is 00:42:13 cynics always suspected. And two, there is no explanation for any of this information staying hidden for so long, other than an explicit bipartisan cover-up lasting 23 years. Let's start with the first, and perhaps the craziest, a new video now released by CBS News 60 Minutes showing Saudi government agent Omar al-Bayoumi casing out the U.S. Capitol in 1999 for al-Qaeda. A voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the American Capitol, Washington.
Starting point is 00:42:44 This video, unsealed in federal court this week and obtained by 60 Minutes, was recorded in the summer of 1999. The man behind the camera is Omar al-Bayoumi, who the FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close ties to two of the 9-11 hijackers. The video was filmed over several days. Bayoumi recorded entrances and exits of the capital, security posts, a model of the building, and nearby landmarks.
Starting point is 00:43:23 In this portion of the video, Bayoumi points out the Washington Monument and says, I will get over there and report to you in detail what is there. He also notes the airport is not far away. For those not familiar, that is truly insane stuff because it proves definitively that the 9-11 Commission and the Bush administration completely lied.
Starting point is 00:43:42 The official story from the 9-11 Commission and the Bush administration completely lied. The official story from the 9-11 Commission and the Saudi government is that Omar al-Bayoumi was a tangential Saudi government-ish connected official. He just happened to live in Southern California before 9-11. According to them, Bayoumi happened to be in the same Los Angeles restaurant as two of the 9-11 hijackers. He overheard them speaking Arabic. And according to the official narrative, out of the 9-11 hijackers, he overheard them speaking Arabic, and according to the official narrative, out of the goodness of his heart, he just gave them $1,500, arranged an apartment for them in San Diego, where he was also living across the street at the time, just because he was a good Muslim. At no time, according to him, did he know or suspect they were Al-Qaeda, and he was simply,
Starting point is 00:44:18 as I said, just a good guy helping others in need. FBI officials actually bought his story, and the Bush administration just waved it all away. The 9-11 Commission followed suit by classifying 28 pages of that commission report, which spelled out more of al-Bayoumi's Saudi government connections. That remained classified up until 2016. In the meantime, the American people were left only with the public declaration from the commission that said, quote, we have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded al-Qaeda. Remember, this was 2002. If you were a renegade who thought that the government was lying, you only had the nascent internet boards and your friends to talk about this. This was the cable news era and the heyday. They bought this story hook, line, and sinker. In the meantime, at the
Starting point is 00:45:04 very same time, their platforming Bush administration lies about how actually Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9-11. We've got to lead a war into false pretenses. By that point, the conversation's no longer about 9-11, it's about Iraq WMD. And we forgot, very quickly. But the people who didn't forget are the families of the victims who died on 9-11, murdered in cold blood by al-Qaeda, who have long sought restitution from the Saudi government for its complicity, and who through sheer force of will have forced this information out into the open. You might be asking, hey, how did that video even stay secret this long? Of course the answer is right in front of you.
Starting point is 00:45:39 The FBI was in possession of this video via British intelligence just mere days after 9-11. It was then covered up and kept secret until today only because the victims of 9-11 family lawsuit ended up dredging it up. So just the latest bombshell revelation that they have given us in the span of a few months. You may have missed this, but there's even more to this story that definitively again proves the Saudi connection to 9-11. Just a month ago, the victims of 9-11 families revealed
Starting point is 00:46:05 they have learned through their lawsuit that Omar al-Bayoumi and another Saudi official linked to 9-11 hijackers, quote, were not rogue operators, but rather the front end of a conspiracy that included the Saudi embassy in Washington and senior government officials in Riyadh. They confirmed that Bayoumi organized housing for the hijackers at the behest of the government and took care of their day-to-day needs, including introducing them to other terrorist officials. They also found a sketch seized from al-Bayoumi's apartment, quote, of a drawing of a plane alongside a calculation used to discern the distance at which a target on the ground would be visible from a certain altitude.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So in other words, not only did he know about the plot, he actually helped the hijackers and himself appears to have been an al-Qaeda agent working for the Saudi government here on U.S. soil. Imagine if any of this had been known in 2002, when the Bush administration was trying to take us into war. Now look, I'm happy it's out today for people like me to have their worst suspicions confirmed. But in a sense, it no longer matters. We already invaded Iraq. We already screwed up in Afghanistan. The worst has already happened. Trillions lost, millions killed, soldiers maimed, killed, all under false pretenses. So let this be a lesson that many questions about 9-11 remain unsolved and that much of
Starting point is 00:47:17 the official narrative is still a straight up lie. And it's still all of our duty to not forget that story after it was done, both in our name and in the names of the victims, because there's still a lot left to uncover here. So, I mean, it's crazy stuff, right? And if you want to hear my reaction to Cyber's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at BreakingPoints.com. Over the years of making my true crime podcast, Hell and Gone, I've learned no town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've heard from hundreds of people across the country with an unsolved murder in their community. I was calling about the murder of my husband.
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