Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 6/3/24: Trump Open To Jail Time, Bill Maher Says Race War If Trump Jailed, Russia Threatens Nukes, Dave Smith Humiliates Chris Cuomo

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump open to jail time, Bill Maher says race war if Trump jailed, Russia threatens nukes as US okays Ukraine strikes, Dave Smith humiliates Cuomo on PBD debate.    To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: https://breakingpoints.com/   Merch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We now have some polling and some interesting little nuggets we can get into about what this could mean politically. Still a big question mark, but some tea leaves to read there. We also have gathered for you a grouping of some of the most unhinged media reactions that I think you will certainly enjoy. We have more terrible news with regards to Ukraine. We're now getting word that the U.S. has officially said, hey, go ahead and use our weapons to strike inside of Russia. This comes as they continue to have just horrible time trying to conscript additional people. It's becoming a very serious and very sensitive issue within Ukraine. So we'll of Russia. This comes as they continue to have just horrible time trying to conscript additional people. It's becoming a very serious and very sensitive issue within Ukraine. So we'll bring you that as well. We've got some interesting highlights for you from a debate between

Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo. You are definitely going to want to stay tuned for that one. And obviously huge news domestically here with regard to Israelia. Biden announcing a ceasefire plan that he claims come from the Israelis, but there are some major questions about that. Omar Badar is going to join us, help to sort through fact from fiction. And we also have Congress officially inviting Netanyahu to address joint session of Congress. A very high honor now being given to a war criminal. We also have more Biden officials who are resigning and speaking out over basically what they allege is the Biden administration cooking the books on what exactly is happening

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on polling, etc. Let's go ahead and start with Donald Trump. He appeared yesterday on Fox and Friends for an extensive interview and gave some insight into some of the political reaction that may come from him and his supporters. Let's take a listen. Judge could decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail. It could. How do you face what that could be? I'm okay with it. I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, oh no, you don't want to do that to the president.

I said, you don't beg for anything. You just, the way it is. Think of it. They have all my books. You know, they went to, for five years, they sued me getting my tax returns, right? At the end of five years, they got them. The Supreme Court actually gave it to them.

That was the end of it. That was it. They never found anything. They was the end of it. That was it. They never found anything. They are the best accounting firms. I had a pure gold firm. They call it a gold-rated firm. I don't know how it's supposed to be. Who knows?

But with all that stuff, for years you heard about my tax. They never looked into the Clinton Foundation. And they never found it. They never went all the way with the Clinton Foundation. They never went all the way with the Clinton Foundation, which is sort of interesting, isn't it? But so that could happen. I don't know that the public would stand it. You know, I don't I'm not sure the public would stand for it with a house arrest. I think I think it would be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point,

there's a breaking point. All right. At a certain point, there's a breaking point. Did you guys see that there inside of it? No snow worthy there, though, to me, Crystal, is obviously both the hard cut that comes from Fox and Friends when he's like, yeah, maybe, you know, I could go to jail. He seems to believe that this is going to be good for him as a result. Now, we have no idea whether any of that is true. What we do know, though, is that, well, look, we can attest to this, too, from our own ratings. We made sure to cover the Trump trial because we knew that the eventual result was going to be important. But let's just say most people did not care very much about it. But the actual verdict itself, that cracked the barrier in a way that we haven't seen with Trump and the trial-related news in a long time. Even CNN

broke some of this down for what the attention looked like. Let's take a listen. Google searches for Donald Trump up. Look at this percentage up 3,233% at the time of conviction versus the hour before Kate. Americans were really interested in this verdict. This reaches the Google search search for Trump, a post-presidency high on Thursday. So Americans might not have been interested before, but they were definitely very, very interested in this verdict on Thursday. Interest, though, of course, we cannot say translates into impacts on one's vote. No one knows how or even if the verdict impacts Donald Trump's political future. But what's the case that you're seeing in the numbers that it does not hurt him? Yeah, what's the case? We'll start

here that it doesn't hurt him. This is a poll number that we've looked at before. Trump voters who say they'd be less likely to vote for him if he was convicted. Of course, these numbers were before the conviction and very few Trump supporters said they would be less likely to support him. You know, May 2024, 7 percent. April 2024, 5 percent. March 2024, 10 percent. Very few Trump supporters said they'd be less likely to support him. Biden versus Trump margin, pre-conviction.

In early May, this was a Marquette University Law School poll among likely voters. Trump was ahead by three points. But they asked a hypothetical. When asked if Trump was convicted, would it change your vote? Take a look at this margin. Now we see Joe Biden ahead by five points. Now, of course, this is a hypothetical question. We don't know if the hypothetical actually come to fruition. Yeah, I think that's actually the best way to point out it, Crystal, which is that, you know, it's not going to have much of an impact amongst people who are Trump voters. That hypothetical Trump conviction question, that's really, it's difficult because that could have been factoring in the January 6th trial, the Georgia trial, the documents trial,

all of which he faced far more political, like political peril if convicted. And what this verdict actually reminded me was what the impact of those trials and eventual convictions would have looked like, because clearly it broke through the public consciousness once the actual verdict came through. But on this one, because it is related to a 2016 hush money sex scandal type thing, it does appear to me more baked in. We'll see and at least bolster some of the Trump claims of being persecuted, at the very least his own supporters and others. Think that, let's put this up there, please, on the screen. Trump raised almost $53 million

in a single 48 hours after the trial. They said 24 hours later after they raised an initial $35 million before. But you can see very clearly that this has brought in more money in single small-dollar donations to the Trump campaign than any previous day in the 2024 race so far, and even matches some of those big days that Joe Biden has found with the big dollar fundraisers that he's been throwing in New York City. Yeah, I mean, I tend to agree with you that I think there could be a couple point change in the polls that probably last temporarily. Exactly. If I had to predict, there's a big question mark. I mean, the other question mark is what happens at sentencing? Because it's one thing to be found guilty. It's another one of

these actually facing some prison time. Although, you know, the legal analysts that Ryan and I talked to actually run against Alvin Bragg in the primary for DA. She believes there is zero chance that he faces prison time over this. So take that for what it's worth. But yeah, I mean, I feel like people already knew about this story. It's a long time till election day. If I had to guess, it doesn't really move the needle that much. But you never know. I mean, to make the other case, play devil's advocate here, I did see polling saying that most people did not think he would be found guilty. So there was a gap between the expectations and what actually happened. So in that way, the fact that, oh my God, he actually was found guilty. Maybe he's not Teflon Don. Maybe for independence, that does move the needle. But I'm also seeing people on the right who are making the case that, oh, this is going to

actually help Donald Trump. I just don't buy that at all. His people are already with him. They're already voting for him. The Republican base is already, you got Nikki Haley bending the knee and everybody coming around. So I think that they were already locked in. They were already voting for him. Yes, he's going to raise some money off of it. Okay, he was already going to have lots of money. The billionaire class is going for him big time this time around too. So he's going to be fine on that front. And the resistance liberals, they're already obviously all in for Joe Biden.

Question mark is whether this changes some independent views on the margins. And like I said, if I had to guess temporarily, maybe over the long term, it probably all evens out. Let's dig into some of that. Let's put this up there on the screen. And actually, look, this was a snap poll. This is what we have so far. This is from YouGov. They say 50% of Americans agree with the guilty verdict in the Trump-Pashmoney case. But what does that mean? That means that 50% also don't necessarily agree or are not sure, right? Yeah. I mean, it is a pretty clear break. You've got a majority, 50% saying, yeah, he's guilty, and only 30% saying no. So it is pretty clearly on the side of people agreed with the result.

Fair enough, but you've got the 19% saying not sure. I guess the 19% not sure and the 30% to me is just like kind of a wash in terms of not, this is exactly what you said. Does guilt then translate to changing my vote? So obviously, there's a major partisan breakdown. Let's continue to go to the next one because there's some more interesting data here. Post-verdict, more Americans say Trump got a fair trial than say that he didn't. Here again, you see the breakdown, 47% say yes, 17% not sure, 37% say no. So basically, the 37%, that's going to be the hard Republicans. 17%, roughly some crossover

between a Republican, a never-Trump-type Republican, plus an independent, and then you got Democrats, and more independent-leaning Democrats who are going to say, yes, he got a fair trial. Basically, you can see that in the breakdown, both in the independent number and in the Democratic number, amongst the people who say Trump is guilty, the same thing. But let's go to the next one, because that's actually where this is kind of what strikes home to me. Most Americans say that Trump has at least probably committed crimes, but few think he will go to prison. So when you say, do you think that former President Trump has ever committed any crimes? Even 28% of Republicans, or sorry, even 12% of Republicans say definitely, 28% say probably. That is,

I have always contended this on Trump. It's like, oh, you're telling me that the man who frequently bragged about his sexploits in the New York City tabloids going to the point about anonymously calling in under a false name to plant stories about his own sexual prowess, cheated on his wife and covered it up in a hush money case. I mean, I'm just shocked, I tell you. Or whenever the New York Times was like, wow, Trump didn't pay his taxes. I'm like, wait, so you're telling me that the guy who said on camera only a sucker and a loser would pay his full tax share didn't pay his taxes? Yeah, no shit. That's where it comes down to me. Now, is that going to impact my vote? Probably not. Same, I think, for a lot of people at this point, especially with a case that goes all the way

back to the 2016 campaign in which we lived thousands of hours of cable news coverage through Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, Michael Avenatti, and all of that. So that's basically just where I see it at this point. Yeah. I mean, so a few things. I do think the assessed level of Trump criminality is probably higher than most other politicians. But I also think that probably if you ask this question about any range of elites, there is a bedrock assumption among most Americans that these people probably committed some crimes in part to get where they are. Very good point. But I also have always thought, you know, because we've talked a lot, and it's important to talk about the differences between these various cases that Trump is facing and get into the details and really try to explain it as best as possible. But I also do feel like because you have so many people who are like, this guy has definitely committed some crimes. Are they going to be outraged that like somebody's taking issue with the jury instructions that were given to this jury.

No, they're going to feel like, yeah, you, you know, you committed crimes at some point, you're going to have to pay the piper. You probably got away with it much longer than, you know, any one of us would. And so that's why I'm not surprised to see really pretty clear majorities, not just in this poll that we showed you, but in other polls as well saying, yeah, I think he's guilty. Yeah, I think that the trial was more or less fair. And as I said before, the Democratic and Republican numbers, those are locked in. They weren't going to change their mind no matter what. But you do see the independents on this question siding more with the Democrats. Now, to go back

to my original point, do I think this really changes a lot of votes? Do I think this really shakes up the landscape for the presidential race? No, because ultimately there are a lot of other factors at play and it's a long time till election day. But to those people out there who are like, this is gonna be great for Trump and this is gonna just, this is guaranteed. I've heard people saying like this is gonna guarantee him his trip back to the White House. I think that's complete nonsense. The best he can hope for is that it's basically a wash, which I do think is probably the ultimate,

most likely outcome. Yeah, I completely agree with you that largely, I mean, as you said, there's a major Republican incentive, it appears, to say this is gonna be affirmatively good for Trump. I don't think that that is the case. There's a major Democratic incentive to say, this is gonna be affirmatively horrible for Trump. This is going to be affirmatively great for Biden. I'm like, again, I don't think that that is the case. This is one of those where if you look deeply at why, this is my personal favorite, this is going to make Trump popular amongst black people. I'm like, maybe let's just put that one to the side. But then if I actually dig into why Trump's support is higher amongst black voters

and younger voters this time around, it's very simple. Black voters, people who are largely economically disenfranchised, want a candidate who represents, quote, major change. And to them, Trump is a roll of the dice. You ask the white boomers why they are largely consolidating around Biden or at least voting for him in much larger shares and sticking with them, they don't want major change because their life is mostly fine. As usual, it all comes back to actual fundamentals and where you think things can go from here. So I just want people to really put that at the center of how they think about how others will vote, is that they're probably just like you. This trial and all this other stuff doesn't really have much of an impact. But

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Let's take a listen. I would really be shocked if this judge gave him a prison sentence for this. I mean, MAGA Nation will go nuts. I don't know if that's a reason to or not to do something, but they will. Yeah, but one of the things about this apocalyptic language that you hear from all of these, the Amen chorus, is they really are inviting violence. And that's hear from all of these, the Amen Chorus, is they really are inviting violence. And that's a big concern of mine. And Trump is completely unrestrained in suggesting that maybe that's appropriate. I mean, he hints that all the time. That's how he got in

trouble on January 6th. And he's doing it again because I think he's more desperate now than he was then. But if they put him in jail, I know it'll happen because the judge's name was Juan. Yes. Everything becomes racial in this country. That's partly because of our horrible, despicable racial past, partly because some of that racism lives on in the present, and some of it because the far left makes everything racial. But that's what it's going to be. A civil

war in this country, I'm sorry to say, becomes a race war. That's the sad truth about this country. And if they put him in jail, I mean, that's the first thing his supporters are going to say is, oh, that's what it is. A black district attorney, you know, all these people who are the district attorneys, they're black. The judge was not white. This is what it is. Is it me, Crystal, or is he the only one seeing some of the race aspect of this? Because look, I follow a lot. It feels like rejection. I was gonna say, I follow a lot of Republicans. I follow some of the most hardcore MAGA people you will ever see. And I don't see a single discussion of race in any of this criticism, except maybe from like replies to literal Nazis. So maybe this is a little bit of projection,

like you said, from Mr. Maher, because I don't know what the hell he is talking about. I mean, listen, obviously there are racial divides in this country, but ironically, given the fact that you do have more Latinos than African Americans going to the Republican side, it's actually the least racially polarized in terms of a partisan divide that we've been in a long time. Yes. So, yeah, I don't know where this came from. And then even I saw not just from him, but I also saw people on the right talking, oh, this is going to lead to civil war and all this. And I understand people feel that the country is on a knife's edge, etc. But we also haven't seen any sign of that.

I mean, he just was found guilty. There was no violence. There was no, you know, I get coming off of January 6th, people are worried. Like, how is this all going to go down? But there was another time when he actively, Trump actively called for people to come out in front of the courthouse and demonstrate. And they basically didn't show up. So, you know, again, I understand the nervousness about the country being on a knife's edge and things being fraught, etc. But I just don't see the evidence that there's going to be some sort of a national break, an actual civil war, and certainly not a

race war over what is happening here. So, you know, listen, I can always be wrong. You never know how these things all go down. But based on the fact that also Republicans are so convinced that they're all feds at this point that it's made very difficult to organize in the way that like the left has been previously after January 6th, everyone thinks everyone else is a fed with some justification, let's be honest. And so that's made it very difficult to organize any sort of like mass response to any of these things that are going on.

The modern right organization is a lot like the Black Panthers in the 1970s where it's like the Spider-Man meme. Everyone's like, you're a Fed, you're a Fed. And they were right, by the way. The Black Panthers were right then and the right is right today. So in general, you'd be better off

if you assumed that if someone's ever trying to instigate you into a little plot, just ask the people at the Gretchen Whitmer trial. At the same time, those over at Newsmax doing nobody no favor in talking about political violence. Let's take a listen. You fight fire with fire. Otherwise, these Marxists are going to keep doing this. And red state AGs, you guys better start hammering these people. You have the opportunity now. They cleared the way. Look, Democrats took what they allege was a federal misdemeanor from the FEC

and made it a state felony 34 times over. There's no rules, apparently. Step up. I'm not just talking. You tyrants are about to awaken a machine you don't want. You are pushing people to the edge. The same party that is offended by the wrong pronouns is pushing the party that owns 90% of the guns, of which the majority defends our nation, who mine our minerals, who build our skyscrapers and drive our trucks.

You weak people have no idea. You people in your cities with your white shoe consultants, country clubs, who thought prosecuting Trump was a good idea, you have never met America. You've watched that scene obviously in Braveheart where they're all online waiting for the British to charge them and he's screaming hold. Folks, hold. All right. Same thing where it's like, chill, dude. If Trump himself is not as worried about it, then putting 1776 to 2024 on the tombstone, we all don't need to go that far.

Take your cues actually from the leader. And at the same time, being like 90% of the guns and basically explicitly threatening some sort of like, I don't even know, it's not insurrection, I guess. I guess his race war, we're doing like a regional, urban versus rural war in this particular scenario that he's not worried about. He's actively cheering for. So there you go. That's great. That's awesome. Everything is, look, I agree. Yeah. Norms and all that, things are breaking down. Does that mean that we are literally on the verge of civil war? No. And if you want to know why, you should go read a book about the civil war and how long it actually took to get to that point. And we're nowhere even close to it, luckily. And we should be happy about that sort of thing. Let's go finally here to MSNBC and

to Michael Cohen about why, even though Trump was convicted in the New York court of law with his own testimony, that he and everyone at MSNBC is still unsafe now that he is in prison. Let's take a listen. I'm afraid of him going to jail and not for him, not for his safety. That's on him. He's got Secret Service protection. I'm more concerned for you and for all of us and our families and for the American people because this clown had four years of being debriefed on national security issues. On top of that, if he becomes the Republican nominee, he gets debriefed again starting now. Think about this. America, think about this for a second. My concern is in a prison situation, he's willing to give away these secrets, as I always say, for a bag of tuna or a book of stamps.

And he will do it because he doesn't care. So he's such a fascist that he will still be a threat to them in prison and that he will somehow, Trump will be sitting there trading for a prison commissary. So that's my real question to Michael Cohen. Why do you think that a bowl of ramen is worth, like, knowing something about Iran? That doesn't get anybody in prison anything. It's more likely to be like, hey, man, let me get some of your cigarettes. Like, what are we doing? I just can't stop laughing at he said he would trade them for a bag of tuna. Yeah. What is a bag of tuna? Listen, if there was a risk, I mean, and I think there was a risk of Trump,

like with the classified documents, like that's a real problem. Like if he was going to sell out our country, and I think in many ways he already has, like to Saudi Arabia, et cetera. I think that damage has already been done. I don't know what, you know, his celly really wants with the Iranian nuclear info or whatever for his bag of tuna. I don't know. I mean, it's, I just also love the MSNBC standards are so low. Anyone who's just willing to be against Trump, you're now like besties. Yeah. And you were right. Michael Cohen has been a hundred percent rehabbed and, you know, sitting there all cozy, like with Michael Steele and Simone Sanders. Really bipartisan gathering of folks there who are all willing to see Trump as that.

Also, you were correct. That was Alicia Mendez who was sitting there at the desk, who is Bob Menendez's daughter, who actually did sell secrets to foreign governments for gold bars. And we're all just going to sit there and be like, oh, wow. So you need to Trump. It would never happen, right? In this country. It's like your dad is literally being indicted for that. Yeah. And of course, and then somehow she's still out on the air. Like, look, that's a whole other conversation. I mean, look, I don't want to blame her for the sins of her father, but it is awkward for her to be sitting there condemning. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Okay. She recused her for the sins of her father, but it is awkward for her to be sitting there condemning. Yeah, exactly.

That's what I'm saying. Listening to this guy or whatever. Okay. She recused her for, from that coverage. I think that's fine. You know, okay. You know, I think that's fine and dandy, but you know, it's pretty hypocritical to sit there and just allow this stuff to happen there without acknowledging what's going on. So there you go. I think that's the best we can show you now for our roundup.

And I'm sure we can have many more deranged takes to come. So just sit back, and we'll make sure to have it for you. Camp Shane, one of America's longest-running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin, it seemed like a miracle solution.

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stories of mistreatment and reexamining the culture of fatphobia that enabled a flawed system to continue for so long. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait.

Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind VoiceOver, the movement that exploded in 2024. VoiceOver is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political, it's societal, and at times, it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that aren't being naked together.

How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself. And I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice.

These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's move on now to Ukraine. This is actually a much more, much more serious situation that broke over the weekend. Let's go and put this up there on the screen. Biden has now secretly given Ukraine permission to strike

inside of Russian territory with U.S. weapons. This previously reversed more than two years of U.S. policy, and it was directly allowing Ukraine to strike inside of Russia using U.S.-provided weapons, including long-range missiles, which previously had been off-limits for the Ukrainians. The reason why the Ukrainians are begging for this is that they are suffering major defeats and reversals on the battlefield. Russia has already, just in the last several months, taken more territory than the entire Ukrainian counter-offensive that was supposed to materialize such incredible gains. I also want to make clear that the change in this policy is not just US provided weapons being allowed to be used in Crimea. We are talking about Russian borders that have been well and long acknowledged by both the United States, by Ukraine,

and the international community. The Ukrainians pushing for this again because of their shortages of manpower and of their reversals on the battlefield. And the obvious lesson that in a war of attrition, which they are in and they committed themselves to, they are going to lose. And they are doing their absolute best to gamble as much as they can while basically trying to bring the United States into this war. And that is the most devastating part of this. And just to show you what is life like in Ukraine, why is this happening right now? Let's put this up there on the screen. I'm going to talk over this. This is a video just came out yesterday. Here you can see, which is not a young man. I mean, this is a graying, like older gentleman being kidnapped off of the street for conscription because he had been avoiding the draft, plucked. He's going to be taken directly to a center.

He's going to be recruited into the military, forcibly conscripted. He's going to have weapons in his hands before you know it. And lo and behold, doesn't take a genius to see that people like this where the average age is some 40, 50 years old, who even knows now at this point, let's put this up there. It shows us that the basic training, so-called amazing training run by the United States government here, basic training is, quote, barely covering the basics. Even Ukraine's own commanders in the field say they are bracing for most of the new troops under a conscription law to arrive with poor training. So it turns out, Crystal, that whenever you forcibly kidnap and conscript, like all of these old men, force them through basic training with subpar weapons, barely even

knowing how to operate, knowing that they're likely marching to their deaths, that they are not going to be fighting effectively. So this is the most dangerous situation all around. And it has already revived the recent threats of tactical nuclear weapons. The threats from the Russians have come from the highest level, from Putin and from Dmitry Medvedev. And of course, the response is, well, they've never done it before. It's like, well, you only have to be wrong once. And this is single-handedly the most dangerous escalatory situation in Ukraine since the beginning of the entire war.

And yet it's like the media, everybody else is celebrating it. Just the last thing I want to add here, I found this out this morning, I'm honestly repulsed by it, is that Zelensky, will be honored and joined, will be honored at D-Day celebrations in France, where Russia was explicitly not invited, even though Soviet troops had a major role, some would say the highest role, in actually defeating the Hitler regime. And Zelensky just recently honored a literal Nazi at the SS, an SS Nazi at the Canadian parliament. We are like excluding Russia here from the D-Day celebration, which they'd always been a part of, even during the whole Soviet Union. The entire idea was, hey, yeah, we're not getting along now, but we came together and we beat Hitler. Let's at least celebrate

a little bit of that and honor the men who died on that day. We're turning it into this repulsive game where we're looking at Ukraine as important as an occupied France in the 1940s. So all of the set, everything is set right now from the NATO powers who want to put their troops inside of Ukraine. The Russians want to use tactical nuclear weapons. The Biden administration basically sleepwalking us now to this situation. And there's no outrage, you know, in the American public because they don't really understand still the stakes. It's all just been, all the risks have been hidden from them and the truth about this conflict. It's just profoundly sad too. Like that video. I mean, it's just awful. We, Joe Biden is feeding Ukrainian men into a meat grinder out of political cowardice.

He knows and his whole administration knows that this war is lost, right? There is no plan to win. There's no plan to take back the territory. Such a thing is really, you know, without us actively going all in is not possible. So what's the plan? The plan is just to bumble through through Election Day and, you know, do enough so that there aren't major territorial losses. That's the reason for greenlining now the strikes inside of Russia. Hope Americans aren't really focused on this, aren't really paying attention, aren't really upset by it and figure it out on another day. And in the meantime, yeah, men like the one that you saw getting dragged off the street are being sent into a meat grinder with very little hope that they will be able to survive intact. I mean, if you read that article about the training and the conditions, you'll be horrified because they're openly saying, I mean, people in the military who are responsible for these brigades are saying, like, we're being forced to take 50-year-old men who have basically never held a weapon before, who have bad knees and bad backs and don't want to fight.

Like, what chance do you think that they have? People who were previously on, you know, non-combat duty, you know, guarding a bridge, something like that, are now being shipped to the front lines, also totally unprepared and with various medical problems. It's horrifying. And part of the problem is, listen, the biggest problem is actually lack of manpower. Another problem in terms of the training is they're so low on like ammo, grenades, grenade launchers, that how do you train people if you don't just have like the material to be able to get them some practice in? You don't have time to properly train people because you got to ship them right to the front lines. It's just so incredibly sad. And at this point, there's just a suspension of reality. Biden is hoping there can be a long enough suspension of reality for him to

get through his reelect. And it is these Ukrainians who are really paying the price. They just passed this additional conscription law to conscript more Ukrainians and ship them to the front lines because the situation with manpower is so dire. This has become a very politically sensitive and difficult issue inside of Ukrainian society, as you can imagine. And it seems like the one we just played you are playing out all over the place. And you've got 600,000 military draft age males that are eligible, but fled Ukraine. They bribed their way out of it. The Ukrainian government is now pressuring the Polish government, the Austrian government, and all of the surrounding NATO territory to have their police forcibly deport all of these Ukrainians who have been

living large, largely in all of these countries. A lot of them are rich. When I was in Hungary, basically what I was told is that a lot of these guys may be Ukrainian on paper, but they're ethnic Hungarians and they have no loyalty to the regime and they have no desire to fight. But now they possibly, you know, could be at risk. It's likely the Hungarian government will shield them at least. But for everybody else, if you're ethnic Ukrainian, you're living the good life in Germany or somewhere else, they're coming for you. They know that you're there and they're going to try and to deport and to get your hands on you. At the same time, you know, the international situation with regards to Ukraine could actually not be worse for them. Let's put this up there on the

screen. Don't believe me? Ask him. Zelensky says that China, quote, is helping Russia undermine a peace summit on Ukraine and that Chinese assistance to Russia is prolonging the war. He recently visited Singapore to try and get Asian and developing countries to come to Switzerland, where he was hoping to host a peace summit. Basically, the goal of this peace summit is to get the entire international community to back the Western framework on Ukraine, which basically says Ukraine at the end of this war will take back not only all of its territory that Russia has taken since the invasion of 2022, but Crimea as well. And obviously, most people, including any reasonable

person, thinks that's ridiculous and that's not going to happen. And the Chinese at this point have been not only propping up the Russians, but have been the major beneficiaries of this entire conflict. Russia is basically a vassal state to China today in terms of their trade, in terms of their financial system, and probably in terms of weapons. If things ever go south, they're definitely being helped in buying things from the North Koreans. So the point is, is that the great powers who are against the US here in the conflict and against the West are basically undermining any attempt to try and put some Western style framework in. So all of the momentum right now is with Russia. They've got the Chinese on their side. The Ukrainians are losing. We're getting increasingly desperate. The only hope that Ukraine has is to somehow drag the US here. I mean, I don't know if you've seen

this, Crystal, but the British are currently floating, putting trainers inside Ukraine, actually on Ukrainian soil to try and prop up these 50-year-old guys. And the Russians were very clear. They're like, we're going to kill them. They're like, if you put them there, we will kill them. And now we are in an Article 5 situation of what does that mean? And then what does Biden do? Is that it? Is that it? Are we going? I mean, this is really scary stuff. In fairness, with regard to the China-Russia relationship, I was just seeing this this morning, China appears to be kind of picking their spots. Of course. So Russia had come to them with three major requests. One is they've been trying to lock in this Russia-China pipeline deal, and that is falling apart because the Russians aren't happy with the Chinese price demands.

So that has basically stalled. You also had a request from Russia for China to allow more Chinese banking in spite of potential U.S. sanctions. China also said no to that. It was only that third thing of like, well, just at least don't go to their little peace summit that they agreed to. So just to flesh out that picture with regard to China's support with Russia. There's also something else kind of interesting happening with regard to Zelensky's positioning in the world. So immediately after October 7th, he really came out very strongly signaling support for Israel. I mean, there's a lot of reasons for that, obviously, but in particular, the fact that they are our vassal state. And so he feels like, you know, I need to please my masters here.

But as part of putting a lot of stock in this,-unquote peace summit that Zelensky is pulling together. He really wanted to attract a lot of the developing world. And there's a realization, number one, they're on a wildly different place with regard to Palestine than what we have signaled. So he has changed his messaging there quite significantly. And I think there also probably is a realization of like, it really very, it really undercuts the U.S. Western narrative that our involvement with Ukraine is all about democracy and human rights when we're so blatantly hypocritical when it comes to our support of Israel. And suddenly we don't care so much about human rights. We don't even really know what the words human rights means anymore when it comes to Israel.

I think there's a realization that that has really undercut his position and his sort of moral standing and ability to make this case. So he has really changed his tune with regard to Palestine and attempt to appeal to the developing world and potentially to keep from China from going even further along and even further in with Russia. So I thought that was kind of an interesting shift as well, because there's no doubt about it. Like our politicians on both sides of the aisle, a complete fealty to Israel has not served them in terms of their regard. In one sense it did though, because I don't know that their aid would have gotten through if they hadn't like locked it in with the Israel aid and use that in order to get those billions passed. But in terms of the, of the focus and the, you know, energy around that,

and the just like diehard commitment to the Ukrainian cause, that has definitely been supplanted among the bipartisan elite in favor of being all in for Israel's genocide on Gaza. Well, because it's so obvious. You're like, oh, human rights and the ICC and Vladimir Putin is a war criminal. And I'm like, oh, hold on a second. Let's just change our tune on all of that. And like I said, I think it was BS in the first place. And that was, this entire thing has been a foolish errand. But we are all starting to see what it looks like whenever they get actually desperate. And as the desperation increases in Ukraine, all of us are far less safe. That's what we've always said, is that the worse things get for them or the better things get for them. Ironically, that's actually whenever we're the most danger

of getting into some sustained and tit for tat escalation that nobody could or that we could see coming, but allegedly nobody in the establishment could actually see coming. It's just at every single turn, they choose escalation instead of peace. And so if there does come some major and broader conflict, it will be eminently predictable, and it will be the fault of the bipartisan establishment here in Washington. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin, it seemed like a miracle solution. But behind Camp Shane's facade of happy,

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So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girlard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind VoiceOver, the movement that exploded in 2024. VoiceOver is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political, it's societal, and at times, it's far from what I originally intended it to be.

These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that aren't being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the man who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself. And I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal,

to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, speaking of bipartisan establishment media and so much more,

there was a fantastic moment in the recent debate between Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo on the PBD podcast. Chris Cuomo, of course, trying to resuscitate himself into some sort of independent media figure. clearly then did not believe many of the things he was saying whenever he was on CNN and was saying it for a paycheck and is now trying to grift off of independent media audiences and transform himself into some truth-sayer. Well, Dave, you know, clearly had the receipts and there was a great moment here. Let's take a listen. Obviously, there was so much talk

that they don't want you to take ivermectin. Ivermectin is the way to go. Take it. Joe Rogan got better from ivermectin. And by the way, I don't like what people did to Joe Rogan about ivermectin. I don't like it. You did it. No, no.

Yes, you did. Find the clips. Dude, find the clips. You shamed Joe Rogan. Find the clips. You said he's taking horse dewormer. You and Don Lemon were chuckling at each other about it. I'll go find the clips.

First of all, you just saw the clips. I'm not chuckling. I'm listening to Don. No, no, no. The clip I'm talking about wasn't on there. And it's absolutely there. Oh, here. Do we have it? Hold on. Let just saw the clips. I'm not chuckling. I'm listening to Don. No, no, no. The clip I'm talking about wasn't on there. And it's absolutely there. Oh, here. Do we have it?

Hold on. Let's play the clip. Go ahead. Getting, injecting drugs for animals and horse. And people telling them to. Oh, my God. What person? You know, you talk about, like, you know, cancel culture and who to shame.

Ivermectin? A dewormer? Really? They are shaming themselves. That's what it is. No one else is shaming. They're shaming themselves. So you're taking a dewormer.

They need to be called out for a shame. Chris, you can't apologize for that. You weren't being clear that it was this, and you know that. Dude, you're being so dishonest right now, man. I'm not being dishonest. You were talking about Ivermectin, the drug. You were not talking about this version of Ivermectin. Come on.

I was responding to a situation where we were told that this is what people were searching out to take, and nobody knew what it was going to do to them. Look, I'm taking the drug right now. Obviously, I don't think it's all poison. I stopped calling it the horse drug when, and you can not like it, CNN's chief medical officer, who is Sanjay Gupta, said to me, you shouldn't just call it a horse dewormer. There's a whole legitimate aspect of the drug. I wouldn't use it for COVID-19, but it's not just a veterinary grade. So I stopped calling it that. And then it went away. All right. Come on, man. I mean, the clip there

moment was so, so good. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. Now, all of a sudden, he's like Bobby Kennedy's biggest fan. And before that, you know, clearly was going on YouTube and he started covering UFOs as if he ever did shit previously. I can't stand people like that who are just like complete click whores. I'm out of nowhere. It's very obvious. Yeah. Leveraging his like brother famous like brother and father's famous last name Which is what he did and then when he no longer is respectable in real media Because he can't get a job at ABC or elsewhere and continue to propagate the environment He takes a look around and he's like, okay

You know, there's some there's some work to be done here on YouTube and of course news or what is it? What does he work for? News Nation or whatever. Yeah, News Nation. News Nation, happy to pay him to get their dumbass name out there. And I think he has a deal with PBD, officially, too, right? Yeah, now he's got to—look, I don't know. Look, I don't know, Patrick. I don't know what the hell they're doing over there.

Maybe it's for moments, you know, for something like this. If so, I think that's great. Me, personally, I mean, I can't just help but look at this and just look at a disgusting grifter. It's like, what do you believe, dude? By the way, he reached out to try and come on the show. And I was like, you know, it's like, what are we even going to talk to you about? Because he's a liar, as we all see here, right here. Props to Dave for exposing him, you know, and being willing to go tet-a-tet. But I mean, look, there's so many instances like this where Don actually is very

similar. He's like, oh, all of a sudden he's a YouTuber. And he's like, oh, you know, he won't disavow per se some of the things he did previously when he's on CNN. If anything, he's still trying to get back in over there. But I would hope, you know, that people are willing and able to see through this act here, Crystal, because it is really, really irks me. Maybe Cuomo could be good for a CounterPoints Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then don't air this because I just... Chris, we've got some ideas

for you. No, you're bringing back a lot of Chris Cuomo memories for me with regard to just like, what do you actually stand... It's very clear what he stands... He just stands for himself

being on TV. Right. I've met a lot of people like this in media. They just have to be in the limelight. It really is like an addiction. Like, I have to be on camera.

I have to have people paying attention to me. Or else I feel like I don't exist. Yes, you're exactly right. I think that's him. I remember when he got COVID, early in the COVID thing. Emerged from the basement. The whole basement thing. And then they made a big show.

He's emerging from the basement. And then it comes out that he'd been, like, out and about riding his bike around and stuff. Spotted in the neighborhood. Remember that? Yeah. Not only that, it's even better. It's one of my favorite clips actually that I personally did just to toot my own horn, where it turned out that he had left in order to go tour a multimillion dollar property for sale. That's right. And I was like, who amongst us does not broken COVID protocol to go and to tour a multimillion dollar property in the Hamptons. I mean, it's just a very common everyday experience. Yeah. Well, and he was so gross

during COVID. I mean, because his brother was obviously, you know, the governor and it was a really critical moment. And there were a lot of really terrible and corrupt decisions that were made under his brother as governor. And they would do those fawning segments that were so disgusting on their face. It's like this is a serious person in power making bad decisions that at least deserves to be questioned. But no, they joke about like the size of their noses and mom's dinner and whatever. And then it comes out even beyond that, that not only was he doing these, you know, fluffy, goofy segments with this very powerful person, but he was also actively advising him on political and campaign strategy in direct contravention of what CNN claims to do and also lied about that. Yes. And that's how he ultimately ended up, you know, after a long time. That was part of what ended up getting him out at CNN. But no, I mean, it's just it's very

clear this is a craven individual who is willing to say like whatever is convenient for him. You're right. And it is still to this day BS that Cuomo was really taken down over Me Too, when really what he did and the real most impeachable offense was not only his handling of the nursing home issue, but he actively used state resources, if we'll all recall, to cover up what was happening at those nursing homes and giving preferential testing, using state troopers to bust different samples. I have not forgotten about that. There are thousands of people who are dead because of Andrew Cuomo. You can go and ask a lot of the people's parents or their family members who to this day have not forgotten what he did there at the behest of the insurance and the nursing home lobby. It was repulsive what he did. And then Chris Cuomo helped cover that up,

actively advised to try and kill some of these Me Too stories, and like I said, is now out here pretending like he is some independent thinker or whatever. So, you know, at the very least, props to Dave. We should always be reminded of who these people are. I believe in forgiveness, but only to a certain extent. Well, you can see, too, in that moment, because he gets caught. He's like, oh, show the clip. And extent. Well, you can see too in that moment, because he gets caught. He's like, oh, show the clip. And that's like, oh, well, here's the clip. Yeah, here, literally here it is. And then he starts to make, well, you have to remember at the time, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, you know what? If you had said that at the beginning, like this was the narrative that was out there. And you know what? I bought into that narrative

and I regret it. Okay. Like you said, people learn, we make mistakes. You can make this. That's one thing. But clearly he wasn't willing to come clean on any of that until he got caught and he had to spin it in real time. And, you know, it just, it shows, it shows the level of integrity there when, when that's the dynamic, it's like, oh, now that you're caught, now you're going to come up with some,-the-fact rationalization of what was going on. That's a great point, too. And that's actually what I believe one of the great hallmarks is, at least here on independent media. If I were to ever appear and somebody would be like, hey, you got X wrong.

I'd be like, yeah, you're right. You are right. Show the clip. Correct. The X, Y, and Z. Here's why I thought at the time I wouldn't be like, no, you're a liar or something like this. But for him, it's like you said, it's the ego. And he has to. I almost think there's like this weird thing going on here, Crystal, where he agreed to do this just because the limelight, he knew it would get tons of

attention and views. And at least he would get his name that's out there. And that's actually the mark of like a sick person, you know, who's working in this business. But, you know, I guess at the very least he got what he wanted. The man is not lacking an ego. Right. That is certainly the case. That's right. Camp Shane, one of America's longest-running weight-loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. But there were some dark truths behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children.

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Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected,

showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. On Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage, you'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.