Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 8/19/25: Fox Trashes Gavin Over Mean Tweets, ADL Lies About Zohran, Bari Weiss Starvation Denial, Israeli Mil Head Celebrates Killing Kids

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Krystal and Saagar discuss Fox News trashes Gavin Newsom mean tweets, ADL caught lying about Zohran, Bari Weiss starvation denial, Israeli military head leaked audio celebrates killing kids.   To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. We need your help to build the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at breakingpoints.com. Gavin Newsom has been going wild on Twitter, and there's this weird, maybe you could explain it a little more to be Saugger, but there's this weird horseshoe where actually, like, a bunch of the white nationalist groopers have negatively polarized themselves against Trump to... Not just Trump, with J.D. specifically.

They hate the J.D. has an Indian wife. Correct. That's a huge part. Yes, correct. Not a huge part. That's the entire part. And so they've negatively polarized themselves into being pro-Gavin. And so in any case, there are all sorts of, let's go ahead and put C2. Let's go ahead and roll through some of these memes and then we can play the Fox News reaction. There's all sorts of stuff going on.

Gavin Newsom replied to this picture of this video of Scott Pressler and say thank you, Nancy Mace. Tommy Laren is then upset by this, says New Lowe's Unlocked by Gavin Newsom. You're kidding me, your state and your bullshit governor rant and rave on a daily basis about protecting gay people. You're really going to use your official press office account to troll a gay conservative, call him a woman. And then the Newsom press office replies, you sound woke. We can put the next one up on the screen just to get a flavor of a bunch of these. I don't know. This might be a Nazi account.

I have no idea who this person is. But in any case, they say which way America and they've got Gavin looking very handsome. and fit in high school with his baseball bat and J.D. Vance with the way gone at a similar age and apparently eyeliner as well. Let's put the next one up on the screen. You've got, this isn't a legit Nazi account, this one, that posted Gavin Newsom versus J.D. Vance in high school. And then Gavin retweets this legit Nazi account and says, I missed that scarf. Let's put the next one up on the screen, see what else we got here. This one he posted, go get him, JD.

This was actually a video of JD looking like not too athletic running to rescue his kid. Who's doing at Disneyland? At Disneyland. Yeah, true. The parent run of run don't walk, but know that you're on camera. Yeah, I'll defend him on that one. The only reason that I think any of this is interesting is that Gavin is basically just going Trump. Like he's going all like Trumpy in in terms of his posting with the memes and all of that.

All caps. Wow, what an honor on Mount Rushmore. Thank you. And it's like an AI image of Gavin Newsome on Mount Rushmore. I don't quite know. Yeah, go into the next one. This is lives of TikTok who had posted. I remember she posted something mean about him.

And then he said, great job, Chaya, and has a picture of her with her binder so excited on Epstein Files' phase one day. Yeah. My take from Gavin is that he is very clearly trying to, he basically is very clearly trying to become the Democratic Trump, where it's all just about one thing. he fights. He pisses off the Republicans. And it's been

somewhat effective right now because, okay, it's somewhat effective in a couple of ways. Number one is it's turning conservatives now into concern trolling snowflakes like Tommy Laren being like, that's so mean going out. It's like, fuck off. All right, like, you know, come on. This is, we are

we are. It's 2025. We're all ripping on each other all day long. The libs are doing it now. So be. If anything, it's good. No more. No more pearl clutching. I think is great. You know, it's like Oh, we really care. Scott Presser's feelings are going to get hurt. Like, get out of here.

It's not out. Or Nancy Manx's. Does she even have feelings? I don't even know if she's human. Oh, she's got feelings. She's got big emotions. I don't know. It all seems very fake to me.

Just saying seems like a classic actor. That's all I say. But in terms of Gavin, I think what is interesting more to me is our big discussion yesterday about this polarization over what are the issues and what are the things that will define being a Democratic nominee in 2028. And already some of the initial polling is showing up for Gavin. Let's go and put this up there on the screen. This was echelon insights. It was actually just conducted just yesterday. And it's a 2028 Democratic primary poll. Kamala Harris came in at 26%. I'm not sure that would be a good idea, but whatever. But number two is Newsom. And number three,

Buttigieg, then AOC, Booker, Crockett, Pritzker, Whitmer, Shapiro, etc. All of them are in the two or the 3% range. The reason why I think that's important, though, is that Newsom is not only number two, assuming that Kamala does not run again. And what it means is that he's capturing at the very least, not only with name recognition, but primary, like the primary character syndrome of who the Democrat, like who's actually leading the fight or whatever against Trump. And that's really just very Trumpian. And it's exactly what I heard from a lot of Republicans back in 2015 and 2016. Even a lot of people, people need to remember, it was not socially acceptable in Washington, even for Republicans to support Trump, like very openly in 2015 or

or 2016. The defenders would always say the same thing. Yeah, I get it. It's distasteful. Or, oh, you know, at that time, it was scandalous that Trump wanted free health care or whatever, was questioning trade policy or anything. They're like, but he fights, you know. And it was one of those where you could connect that with the Trump-based voters.

And those were some of the first reported right when I started out, I started talking to people. I was like, hey, what are these Trump rallies like? I'm talking about the original ones, like Iowa and New Hampshire. They're like, man, I've never seen anything like it. People who came completely out of the woodwork, and they just love how he tells it like it is. That's what we heard over and over again. Like, it had nothing to really do with policy. I mean, there are policy implications to that.

But my point about Gavin is I think that he's connecting very solidly, like with where that no King's energy is for a lot of these people. And with Gavin and his about face from the initial days of the Trump, administration post vibe shift has been one where he's taken all of the most like performative fighting actions like the lawsuits the uh you know the la riots or whatever like you know mobilizing the lawsuits against the national guard and then the twitter piece the only reason i think it's important is really to invite conversation by a lot of the republican elites to negatively polarize them against him yeah that's very helpful because one of the things people loved most about Trump, even if they didn't like him, they loved how much he pissed off the media.

So the more that the Tommy Lairns and Fox News is are mad at Gavin, the more happy that these Democrats are going to be. Yeah, they love that Trump owned the libs and, like, trigger the libs. And now if Gavin's able to trigger the conservatives, like Democratic base is going to eat that up. It's shocking that more of these idiotic Democratic politicians haven't realized that that is the case. And actually, I mean, it took Gavin a while to get it.

He was there, you know, launched his podcast, having on Charlie. to like just hang out and have this like chummy conversation with him and Steve Bannon and others. And then he got when Trump sent in the National Guard, I feel like that's when it really turned because Gavin started fighting and being vocal and visible and got a positive response and is like, oh, this is the thing that people want me to do. So to your point about triggering the Trumpers, I guess we'll say triggering the Trumpers, Fox News doing some just delicious pearl clutching over some comment that Gavin Newsom made that I don't even know if he intended as being like, you know, intentional dig at Governor Greg Abbott's the fact that he's

disabled that he's in a wheelchair. I don't even know if he intended that. But anyway, Fox News was in high duchin about these comments. And you'll see their response to Gavin Newsom's reply. Let's go ahead. This is C-1, guys. Go ahead and play this. Congressman Greg Abbott, who is in a wheelchair and Newsom says he rolled over from Trump. That's almost as bad as Jasmine Crockett calling him Governor Hot Wheels. You know, we asked for a statement and Newsom's office said something flippant like, you know, oh, you're so woke, he'll get over it. Abbott'll get over it. Your response to that. So actually the reply from the Newsom Press office was, you know, asked if for a statement, he said no, but how woke of you

to ask. I'm sorry Greg's feelings were poor guy. We hope he recovers. So that was their reply. So that's their, like, you know, level of trolling. And so they're loving seeing, and there were some other, I don't remember if we pulled it or not. Oh, yeah, we did. We pulled C3B, which was another moment of Fox News being so offended and so disgusted by the way that Gavin Newsom is comporting himself now. Let's go ahead and play that. The other thing for me is that for the last week, Gavin Newsom, and why am I giving him advice? You have to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife is. If I were his wife, I would say, you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it. Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away and

start over. And if you wrote, he's got a big job as governor of California. But if he wants an even bigger job, he has to be a little bit more serious. And of course. She spent a lot more less time on his phone tweeting. That's never worked out for any president. Where have you heard that before? Wherever you heard that before? I mean, that's what's so funny. It's like, do you not hear yourself, do you not realize who the president is that you, like, you know, glaze all the time? If they do Trump, they're like, oh, it's just so amazing how much direct access we have to the American people. Yeah, oh, he's so funny. It's such a great way of communicating with people. I will tell you, the last 48 hours, I have wanted to blow my brains out because I keep

watching all this Fox News because of the summit, right? I just want the live TV. I just want the live television, like, access to this. So every once in a while, I will forget to mute Jesse Waters. And I'm like, I am going to kill myself if I have to keep listening to this idiot. Every time I watch cable news, I'm like, oh, that's why people like our show. Okay, I get it. You know, my wife, who does not watch any breaking points whatsoever and thinks I'm cringe is like, oh, this is why you have a career, isn't it? So even she thinks I'm better than these people, you know? It's one of those where it's maddening, but it's exactly reasons like that. where, as you know, there's some, you know, octogenarian from watching Fox who's like,

yeah, it's such a good point about Gavin. But then at the same time, it's like loves Trump and loves the Mika Brzynski facelift tweet is their favorite ever, right? Yeah, whether they'd admit it or not. Yeah, what, no. They secretly enjoyed it. Yeah, they know. If you talk to these people enough, like it comes out very quickly about what this is all

about. Let's put C4 up on the screen. This is the polymarket betting odds. Gavin, Gavin's, he's quite up there. 23%? He's not, or actually, that was taken yesterday. He's gone up two points. Since then, he's at 23 as of right now. AOCs at 4. I would sell that. I don't know about you. I would, I would not buy that at all. I genuinely don't think she's going to. Why wouldn't she come for Senate? I think she's going to run. That'd be the must more reasonable. That's my, that is my guess at this point.

And I think, which is part of why I think she's like weirdly parsing on like the Israeli weapons and all that sort of stuff. It makes more sense. Now, I mean, maybe like political, logic escapes these people, certainly basic morality does, but it makes more sense in the context of trying to unseat Chuck Schumer in the state of New York. So that's my reading at this point. Also, Buttigieg and 8, that's a total sell for me. Oh, yeah. Like, if you watch those Israel answers for him and the cleanup and just how little Rizzi has

and how black people still don't want anything to do with him, like, no. Also, isn't South Carolina still the first? I think it is. Yeah, it's still early, so forget about it. Take a look at black polling. Sorry. Maybe you can be transportation secretary again to Newsom. You know, I was trying to find this out. What title takes precedence? Is it mayor or secretary? And nobody can actually give me a good answer.

I don't know officially, but for me, he's just like mayor is so baked into his. I say mayor because it's elected and cabinet, because you're elected, so by the people, technically, in the mayor. So secretary is confirmed by the cabinet, but I'd have to check with it. Secretary's got an extra syllable in it. I agree. It doesn't sound good. We all know him as Mayor Pete. That's just, that's what he is.

It doesn't really matter at this point. But, I mean, what I will say, and I said this yesterday, but just to reiterate, the thing that Gavin is benefiting from right now, too, is that he doesn't really have to answer any difficult questions on things that would be challenging for him. So, you know, immigration will be one of those things. But I think more critically right now is where he stands on Israel and Gaza. The things that he has said to date. are not good. But he has never put himself in a position where he is going to be specifically

pressed on that issue and a little behind the scenes. We've been trying for quite a while now to get an interview with Mr. Newsom. I have a new lead on that, by the way. Do you? This just happened, like, recently. Yeah. So in any case, he follows me on Twitter. I reached out to them that way. We reached out through the press office. We got, you know, specific, no, he's not interested in both instances. And he's been going out and doing lots of Brian, Tyler, like, all kinds of online media, but he doesn't want to come here. And it wouldn't surprise me if it's because he does not want- I think it's because of Slotkin. He does, I don't even, because the first time we reached out was pre-Slotkin. That's a good point. But he's smart enough to know that,

like, if you just look at our channel, obviously Israel Palestine is a focus of concern for us and interest, and he's not going to get through an interview without getting asked really specific questions that he has no good answer for. But at some point, he's going to have to answer those questions. And it's going to cause him to have to, you know, either divide with the donor base that has been his key to power in California for years and years, or he's going to divide with where the grassroots of the, not just the grassroots, the entirety of the Democratic party bases at this point. So, you know, there is some treacherous road ahead of him. And there's also, so we'll see. We'll see with him how that goes where he ends up. To me, that's sort of the

biggest trouble area for him. But there's no doubt that the Democratic base is absolutely loving seeing someone show some sort of life because it's been few and far between in terms of politicians who have even showed the slightest bit of, you know, of aura, of ability to stand-up to Trump, of understanding of new media, et cetera. So it is for, I think, a lot of Democrats, it feels like manna from having to have this one dude who's at least out there, like, posting and making people kind of lose their minds about what he's saying. My only caution is people should remember the Brat Summer thing, which was fake at the end

of the day. Like, completely, you know, everyone was like, oh, the pole, she's one-on-one. Yeah, there's all the coconut memes and all that stuff. Yeah. That was totally, it didn't amount to it. It either was astroturfed or, actually, I don't think that's fair, because I think it was real and organic in some way. There was a relief that Biden was gone. Yeah, but it became.

And excitement that there was something different. More what I mean is became very overrepresented in coverage and probably skewed a lot of people in media who took it seriously and thought it was real. So my only caution is just that sometimes this online stuff can be taken way too far. And then in retrospect, you know, it's pretty obvious what it is. And there are signs for selling. I mean, we talked yesterday about his podcast. It doesn't do very well. Like sometimes he has a good guess,

but sometimes it's a total bus. I mean, he's got episodes up here that are getting 5K views. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So if there was like this real organic, like interest in Gavin Newsom, you would think that every one of them would at least be hitting 100KKKK.

Yeah, and there's some, look, I mean, there are TikToks that have gone very viral. Like we have a VO of one of them because it has Lana Del Rey music. We could put C5 up on the screen just to show people, like what it looks like. This is, you know, some of the hype reels

that people are making. But as I said, the only reason this gives me pause is because I remember all of the ones about Kamala, right? Kamala was huge on TikTok, right? Yeah. So was Tim Walz, like all of them. And, you know, there were all these moments that went viral with them amongst liberals.

And then they still not only lost the election, you lost a popular vote, right? I just feel like that's so important to say. So I don't know how it will materialize. But at the very least, maybe we can take it seriously because it is still going to be representative. At the end of it, it's about the primary. We're not yet talking about the general elections.

We're not right now in the realm of how the American people feel. We're talking about the Democratic electorate. And for them, they want to see somebody fight. And I think that Gavin right now is the best example. And Gavin has more of the goods than Kamala does. Like, he can't, I mean, he gives me it because he has this, like, car salesman vibe. Callow always gets mad when I say that because he used to be a car salesman. But he has this.

Smarmy, politician, like, you can just smell the ambition. You can see it oozing out of every single person. poor. And to me, I just, that's a major red flag in every way to me. But, you know, I have to take myself out of this equation and say, like, he, when he's in, he can debate. He, you know, has, he is a commanding presence. He's not afraid of being in the spotlight. He's not afraid of getting blowback and being in the mix. And, you know, those are qualities that I think if, if sort of leveraged in the right way, are certainly very appealing to a Democratic base right now. But again, it's just so desperate for anyone who has anything to say and is going to, like, have any sort of a spine or a backboat at all.

I mean, as I've repeatedly said about Gavin, he believes nothing. He will say anything. Correct. That is absolutely true. That is what you need more than anything to be president. You have to have the black hole in your soul. And he has it. You can tell.

There's no other reason to be chasing the spotlight for your entire life, to want to go on Sean Hannity's show. His biggest smile is when he's engaged in fights with Ron DeSantis and with Hannity. That's what he actually lives to do, is to, like, be in the spotlight, is to elevate his profile, is to, like, be the number one man. And so that type of ambition can only lead in one direction. He reminds me a lot, actually, at Bill Clinton, like, in terms of just that tick inside from the very beginning of, like, have to have it, got to have it, have it. It's psychological. Clinton was much more sort of naturally appealing, though. he didn't have that same sure it didn't come across that way although secretly he was I mean

of course who else runs for student body president how he came off right yeah but it's like graduates from law school and he's like I'm gonna be governor people are like what who are you you know I mean to his credit he did win so you know you can't count him out exactly and same with Gavin he's got the same appeal frankly he's even more appealing than Clinton Arkansas is like a 48th month popular state in the country is the most popular state's a G7 economy in its own right he has a massive don't that he can tap at any moment. And they love him because he spends a lot of time with them.

Oh, yeah. He's cultivated them now for a decade. The richest, most powerful people in the United States, probably the tech industry. You've got Silicon Valley and Hollywood locked out. Huge amount of donor money. You put all that together combined with the like, he fights energy. So that's got Democratic elites plus the Democratic base. You marry those two.

Yeah. I think it's a recipe for being formidable. Shitty establishment neoliberals that are, you know, potential for the 2020 field. He's the one I'm most worried about, for sure. You should be. Pete, I'm not worried about. Whitmer, I don't know what she's doing.

She's out there like playing Patty Cakes with Trump. Girl, you are so misreading the moment. Like, all of these other people, he's the one that I think has the most chance. So I'm, I am concerned about him. I am officially concerned. Yep, I've agreed. Hey, guys, it's AZ Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist.

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just outright brazenly lie about Zoran Mondani, who of course is the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor. Let's go ahead and take a listen to this. We have a mayoral candidate. Well, that's where I want to go with this next. Sure. So what do you make of this mayoral candidate who likely the rate things are going

is going to become the mayor of this city. Yeah. And the fact that he, you know, was asked, as you know, three times repeatedly, do you condemn the phrase globalized the Intifada? And for whatever reason, almost inexplicably, unless you believe it's an anti-Semite, which might.

Let's just make sure all the viewers know the Intifada was a violent uprising in the Palestinian territories where they murdered over a thousand people, simply because they were Jewish. Bus bombings, stabbing, shootings, et cetera. So that being said, why won't he condemn globalized intifada?

Because he believes it? I mean, I think we have to take people at their word. Look, in the last several months... But then it makes it even more complicated. We had Joaquin Jeffreys on last week. Yeah. Okay, we talked about this, and we talked about it in the context of

of those comments. What did minority leader Jeffrey say? He almost couldn't, he almost couldn't condemn him either in that regard, because what's going to happen is if he wins, people who, even disagree with him on things like this will think that they have to agree

with him. Look, whether you agree with President Trump or he would be Mayor Mamdani, we have to deal with elected leaders as they are. But I think there are questions we should ask right now. Like, this candidate has visited churches and mosques. Not a single synagogue. This candidate has gone to Harlem

to meet the black community, Washington Heights to meet the Latino community, Chinatown to meet the Asian American community. Not once to a Jewish neighborhood. The last poll I saw something like 32 33% of Jewish Americans in New York were supporting. Fairly. What is? Fairly. Respectfully, Becky, like, I don't believe

the polls. Because I know something about this candidate. He hasn't been to any of the mainstream Jewish institutions. He's, it would appear, I mean, I haven't heard from him. I don't think the heads of most of the major Jewish groups have. I mean, forget the polls, how many voted for him in the

Democratic primary? I mean, relatively speaking, we know that the way that worked out was actually pretty low number. Okay. First of all, why anyone takes this man seriously at this point is an absolute and complete mystery to me. Second of all, what brazen, nearly every word out of his mouth is just a brazen lie there. So he says, oh, he hasn't visited a single synagogue. Put D2 up on the screen. What do we see here? Lo and behold, wonderful to be back at this synagogue on the Upper West Side last night

for mayoral forum on the critical issues facing the Jewish community in this election. frankly, the fact he hasn't reached out to Jonathan Greenblatt, in my view, is a major point in his favor. And that's really, I think, what Greenblatt is mad about. If he hasn't gone and, you know, kissed the ring of Jonathan Greenblatt than any other outreach that he's done to the Jewish community, which Becky there points out, by the way, this guy is doing better with Jews in New York City than any other mayoral candidate. But if he hasn't kissed Jonathan Greenblatt's ring specifically, then it really doesn't count. We can put D4 up on the screen because they did a good job of breaking down every single one of the lies that in that short clip that

Greenblatt tells. So they say contrary to Greenblatt's assertion, Mamdani attended Shabbat services in Park Slope in February, visited the offices of the UJA Federation for a town hall co-hosted with the Jewish Community Relations Council in May, participated in two separate candidate forums at Congregation Benai Jeshurun, sorry guys, butcher that in Manhattan in June. Nonetheless, during the Democratic mayoral primary, he also made an effort to reach out to the more than 700,000 Jewish voters in New York, including a visit to an annual legislative breakfast in Flatbush, heavily orthodox neighborhood in Brooklyn with a politically conservative electorate. He also, Greenblatt, claims that Mamdani did not reach out to Hasidic voters in their native Yiddish language, also a lie. He gave an interview to a Yiddish language Hasidic newspaper that were photos circulating on social media showing pro-Mam-Dani Yiddish language campaign posters. on a poll in Borough Park.

He's relying on a senior team of Jewish professionals for his campaign. And this whole globalized the Intifada thing is such total and complete bullshit. First of all, if you did say it, I'd support it. But he never actually said it. And he has shifted to even saying he would discourage its use

since he got so much scrutiny and pressure put on him over all of this. So just utter and complete lies out of this man's mouth and zero ability to reckon with the fact that actually the strongest candidate in the field, both in the primary and now in the general election, with Jewish voters, is Zoran Mamdani,

who, yes, is an avowed anti-Zionist, who is pro BDS, who thinks that they were criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu, should be arrested if he ever came to New York City. And guess what? New York City may voters agree with him, not with you. Yeah, well said. And I think it's actually just very interesting

because it's a couple of different areas that we can look at. The ADL has a lot of institutional power, but it is increasingly losing a lot of its political power. And I think that's what's very important. And just to show everybody, though, that the institutional power they have, I found this story recently. I wanted to break some of it down.

Can we put D3 up on the screen? There were apparently very recently a huge fight in the Teachers Union, in the NEA, over rejecting ADL materials, basically propaganda materials to be used by teachers to teach, quote, about anti-Semitism. So apparently what happened is that a member, the members approved a proposal inside of the teachers' union to sever all of their ties with the ADL over the war in Gaza. Yeah.

But the executive committee overruled basically this and rejected it, saying that they will continue to work with them over, quote, anti-Semitism or Holocaust education. So, as you can see there. But the reason why I think this is very important is what they say for them is they're blaming union rules or any of that or whatever is that they still have a huge hold on a lot of the nation's institutions from Twitter to the U.S. government, working with the Trump administration, working with the Biden administration. As we saw previously, they assembled a lot of the target lists or at least helped for some

of these deportations of these Israel critics who were students who, again, literally were here legally did nothing else other than criticize Israel. And now a lot of their materials, because of this legacy stuff that they've done on the Holocaust, continues to kind of do the work of pro-Israeli propaganda. So it's just one of those where, you know, the beast of the ADL, if you really want to, like, dismantle it. It's not just, it's, like, it's important politically to actually have candidates who outright reject them. But those candidates then need to look at all of the other areas that they're influencing, like censorship, misinformation. Oh, yeah. And that's why I think it's really important. And this guy gets booked on across cable news. I mean, you and I were talking

when he was on. I'm like, why is this man on CNBC? Like, actually, this is a financial network. You know, when I put CNBC on, I'm like, what's the stock of NVIDIA? What's Jensen got to say? That's it. Bloomberg or any of these other places. This channel is on every office on all of Wall Street all day long. They watch it for financial news. Not for any of this. Sometimes they have politics on like Charlie Kirk or whatever was on the other day. But even that was about tariffs and that was about the economy. This in particular, it's like, what is the purpose of this segment other than to basically weaponize and, you know, like, mobilize, like the Wall Street New York City elites to try and continue their failed, like, anti-Momondani campaign

now so far. It's like, look, Ackman et al have all tried. It's all come up nothing, because you have nothing. They have no, like, plan or ability to stop Mom Dani from getting elected at this point. He's going to be mayor. Their fantasy is that, Everyone except Andrew Cuomo drops out of the race, which is a fantasy. It's not happening. But even if it did, even in polling, when it is a head-to-head, Zoran still wins because Cuomo sucks. People don't like him, right? He's terrible.

He's out there humiliating himself the way he's posting on a daily basis. Like, your plan has failed. So, and they do not want to grapple with reality. That's why he's like, oh, I don't believe the polls. Actually, if you'll recall, in the Democratic primary, the polls wildly understood. Zoran's support wildly because he completely was able to change the elector. He actually shifted the elector and brought out so many more young people than were anticipated. So don't be surprised if the polls are once again underestimating his support

because it's very difficult to predict in these sorts of elections with a candidate who is so unique and who himself is able to change who shows up to vote. It makes it very difficult to do the polling and for it to ultimately be accurate. I want to to get this in, it's a little bit, uh, it fits, but it doesn't totally fit. But I will say the free press is a sort of ADL aligned institution. And it does fit with the, they're actually more militant, they are more militant. But it fits with the idea that there is like for, you know, the Israel bear hug position, there has been a almost complete loss of public support outside of like boomer Republicans. Um, but there is still a lot of elite support and elite pushing of this narrative.

free press and their, you know, supposal, what was their valuation, $250 million, something. Valuation, I think, being emblematic of that. Which we support, because it means we're worth $100 million. That's right, exactly. We support it because that means we're really rich, too. Tim Dillon was like, what do I need to say?

Yeah, what do I need to say? A hundred million? All right, all right. It's fine to blow up, Toddlers. It's good. Can I'm in check now. Send me to Jerusalem. That was his bit.

Anyway, after that, you'll ever see me again. Let's put their latest journalism up on the screen here. I am so thoroughly disgusted with this line of quote-unquote reporting. So the headline here is they became symbols for Gazan starvation, but all 12 suffer from other health problems. And they go through these 12 individuals, all of them, Palestinian children who are being starved and, you know, and suffering through all sorts of things. True, not just starvation in Gaza. that they are suffering through, as if to disprove the idea that there is, there are famine

conditions in Gaza, which is insane because you can just look at the stats yourself about the amount of food trucks that were allowed in for months and months. There was an almost complete blockade. There has been some lifting of that. Some trucks are getting in. It has eased slightly, but nowhere near what is needed. And so let me give you an example of one of the children that they say it's not fair to represent as, you know, suffering from starvation. There's a 14-year-old boy, they say, who was featured. I'm just going to read you what they say. These are their words.

The 14-year-old boy was featured in the same CNN story as another child suffering from malnourishment. The original caption didn't mention that last May, that boy had sustained a traumatic head injury amid what SHMS News Agency, a Gaza-based outlet called an Israeli shell explosion. My son was injured in the head, his mother explained. part of his skull was removed. And so what the free press is saying is, oh, well, you didn't mention CNN in that article that Israeli's blew part of his skull apart in that that's contributing to his malnourished state. So is that supposed to be a propaganda win for Israel that in addition to the fact you're

starving this child to death, you also blew up part of his head? Is that a win? Another one of the individual, the kids that they talk about here, they're like, oh, they also suffer from rickets. Do you know what causes rickets? Vitamin deficiency causes rickets. And you think that, oh, that's completely separate and apart from malnourishment and famine and starvation? I mean, it's just so disgusting. Of course, the first people who are on the brink of death or who have in hundreds of instances at this point already starved to death. Yes, of course, it's the sick, it's the weak, it's the vulnerable. Those are the first people, often children, often infants,

the elderly to die in famine conditions. That does not take away anything from the horrors of what is being perpetrated here. And I just, it's unbelievable to me that people put this stuff out and think that this makes Israel look good. Oh, congratulations. He had his head blown up too, and he's starving to death. So it's different. CNN's lying. They're doing pro-Humaz propaganda. Like, disgusting. So disgusting. Zed has actually made the, I have never familiarized my off with Holocaust denial, so I didn't know the finer points. I'm learning now, thanks to Zed. We're watching in real time.

So I'm backing you up, but you should steal this. Zed informed all of us that a key tenant of Holocaust denial is trying to claim that many of the initial victims or purported victims had other, you know, preconditions and that's part of the reason why they died.

And, you know, the war was tough on everybody and it wasn't thing. Another one which, you know, I talked about those with Ryan, was people talking about how they're a restaurant in Gaza that are operating. And again, because I'm not familiar with the Holocaust denial, apparently that is a key tenet of why the Warsaw Ghetto

was not so bad, was that the very filthy, rich members of the Jewish community who could barter or trade or whatever, could afford food, actually, yes, they did have restaurants that they were available, but according to many of the accounts, it was not, it was an actual daily reality

that you could have rich people afford food and people literally starving outside of those very doors, which is psychotic and crazy, obviously. But just to demonstrate, you know, that this is straight out of that type of denialism. I had no idea. Again, I've never engaged with any

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informed of their approval of their proposal presented to them yesterday by Egyptian and Kintari mediators. Some of the details here, again, per drop site. They say Hamas accepts these proposal submitted by Egypt and Qatar. Egypt this morning presented a revised version of U.S. envoy Steve Whitkoff's 60-day plan based on the 13-point framework. Hamas had submitted amendments more than three weeks ago to the previous proposal. Israel never replied. Instead, withdrawing its team and threatening to, quote, conquer all of Gaza. Hamas official told Reuters the group has approved the proposal but provided no further details. That proposal backed by Egypt and Qatar calls for a 60-day halt to military operations and offers a pathway toward negotiating

a comprehensive deal to end the nearly two-year genocidal war. Israel's response is pending. And as far as I know this morning, there hasn't been any movement on the Israeli side. And so I wouldn't, you know, basically what this calls for a 60-day ceasefire while the further phases are being negotiated out to completely end the war. I don't know. I haven't had a chance to talk to Jeremy yet, but personally, I don't feel very helpful that the Israeli side is going to accept this because they seem hell bent on their complete ethnic cleansing plan and are, you know, moving forward with effectuating that outcome and putting that into place. Well, yesterday Trump also had a tweet where he's like, the only way we'll get rid of the hostages is the occupation or destruction or whatever of Hamas. But it is, I mean, I don't know.

At the same time, there's long been a theory that the Trump rhetoric or whatever is about pushing Hamas to continue accepting these scenes. But part of, as you and I, because we cover it at a daily basis, this stuff almost always gets to the quote finish line where it's like 98% and the Israelis are like, no, you have to agree to a full and total occupation for all time. And they're like, okay, well, no, we're not going to do that. And that always just breaks down. Or the government. I mean, if they actually agreed to it, it would cause a massive political crisis in Israel. The government could fall because the Israeli far-right ministers are against any deal whatsoever. They want full-blown occupation. gotten already what they want. So, yeah, it's very questionable whether it would actually go forward. Yeah, I think so, too. I mean, we've seen this playbook so many times where he'll, Netanyahu will either, I mean, at this point, I don't even, it seems like they don't even feel the need to lie anymore and pretend like they're doing things in good faith, they're like they're acting morally. They just are all out in the open mask off with all of this. But in the past, we've seen him insert various poison pill provisions. Even from the, you know, the deal,

remember back when Biden announced, we've come up with this deal and listed all the provisions and the Israelis are behind us, et cetera. Hamas is like, okay, we accept. And then Israel inserts all sorts of new provisions and make sure that it's impossible to get through. You have, you know, the most psycho members of the Netanyahu coalition, Motrich and Bengavir, who were obviously completely opposed to any sort of deal.

So I think it's unlikely it goes forward, but I wanted to make sure to put the news out there about the latest. We also have, this is, we can put this up on the screen. There's this leaked audio from the head of military, military intelligence on October 7th. This is our friend Shail who breaks it down. He says it makes very clear Israeli policy is to kill tens of thousands of Palestinians, including children and ethnically cleanse them. Quote, for everything, this is from that head of military intelligence,

for everything that happened on October 7th, for every person on October 7th, 50 Palestinians should die. It does not matter if they are kids. There is nothing to be done. They need a Nakpa every now and then to feel the price. And Shail goes on to say this is not some rogue extremist, this is the heart of the Israeli security establishment. And this would be the type of person who would be portrayed, by the way, as moderate within the Israeli context, just so we're all really clear. I think we have the specific text of what this individual was saying. So here's what the leaked audio, what the translation says. The fact that there have already been 50,000 deaths in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations. Okay, you humiliated, you slaughtered,

you murdered. Everything is true. The price, I said before the war, for everything that happened on October 7th for every person, 50 Palestinians should die. It doesn't matter now kids. I'm not talking out of revenge. I'm talking about this as a message for future generations. There's nothing to be done. They need a knock by every now and then to feel the price. There's no choice in this disturbed neighborhood. There is no choice. So lays it out pretty plainly. And by the way, you know, at this point where we are, all the experts who have looked at this and estimated out say there's hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, we don't know the exact number, who have been killed either directly by the fighting, buried under the rubble, died of malnutrition,

of other illnesses, of, you know, not being able to get medical treatment for chronic conditions, etc. That's where we are at this point. We can, to back that up, we can put E3 up on the screen because this is absolutely shocking. If you have any doubt about the extent of the horror and the outright genocide that's going on here, look at the fall off in life expectancy since October 7th. So the darker blue that you can see there that just absolutely plummets, a change in life expectancy of roughly minus 35 years. So 35 years on average being cut off of everyone's life in the Gaza Strip. Unbelievable. And you can see the comparison to other brutal wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in Yemen.

Syria is the closest comparison, and it's, you know, at its worst, life expectancy dropped about 12 years, which again, horrifying, horrifying numbers, but pales in comparison to the scale of the slaughter and destruction of life in Gaza, where life expectancy has plummeted by 35 years. It's just to see it in that form is just absolutely chilling Zogger. It's very grim. We can go to the next part too just to show people this,

let's put this this guy, by the way, if anybody doesn't remember, is the student who cried on camera with Mike Johnson about not feeling safe on campus. Oh, I didn't realize that. This is A.A.L. lore,

yeah. Aal is since probably one of the most prominent, I would say, Zionist propaganda, guys on Twitter, he says, quote, breaking Israel is currently in talks with five countries, Somalaland, Uganda, South Sudan, and Libya about the potential resettlement of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip, kind of just saying it out loud.

By the way, did anyone notice that, like, three of those countries are either failed or shaky governments, which are war-torn and need a lot of money, desperate, you know, for something? Not exactly, like, thriving places that are capable of sustaining their own population, let alone, like, I don't know, millions of people who would be expelled. So, you know, just think it's kind of important for people to see. What else am I thinking here? Oh, right, this last one, I can't get over this because it gives the whole game away.

Let's go and put E5 on the screen. So they, I love how they just say this shit out loud and admit the game. The IDF is planning on asking the Jewish diaspora to encourage Jewish youth to join the IDF due to a severe manpower shortage. So let me just read that again. The IDF says that they have a severe manpower shortage and some, quote, estimated a 10 to 12,000 that are missing right now from IDF ranks. And because it would be too shocking to Israeli politics to draft the ultra-Orthodox who are all on welfare and live off of the dole. By the way, the dole that America pays for just in terms so people understand. They now say they will need to get some $6 to $700 to $600 to $600 additional soldiers each year from Jewish communities abroad who added that the United States,

and France will be the main targets of the IDF efforts. So basically, the IDF is saying that the only way that they can sustain their manpower and Gaza is to basically propagandize and ask American citizens, residents of the United States and of France, to move to their country and to go and serve in their military, which they know will not result in them losing U.S. citizenship, and also will basically, quote, deepen the ties, that's always the way that they talk about it, between those two, face no consequences. And it's an open part of their recruitment strategy.

Imagine if America was like, we don't have enough troops, so we're going to call on, I mean, actually, there's no parallel because there's no ethnic, you know, component of being American or across the world. There's no other country in the world that could do this or get away with it. I mean, wouldn't people be outraged? Imagine if Indian Pakistan got into a war, and they were like, we call all Indians of Indian descent to come back and to fight. The Germans actually did this.

The Nazis did. I forget exactly what it was called. They were like all loyal Germans. It's very Nazi blown soil behavior. Okay, there you go. So all, yeah, what the Nazis did is that I forget the exact term. It's in German, but they were like any loyal German must return to the fatherland to come and to fight for Hitler.

At low, it wasn't all that successful, just so people were aware. But that's effectively like the equivalent of what they're saying. They're like, any Jew who is really patriotic, The conflation of Judaism in the state of Israel, which is always sickening. I mean, just today, Netanyahu attacked the prime minister of Australia, who said that he had abandoned Australia's Jews because he was willing to recognize the state of Palestine. That literally just happened this morning. There is nothing more anti-Semitic than saying every Jew has to be associated with this genocidal Holocaust. Like, it's, there is utterly disgusting.

But, I mean, also, part of me is like, listen, if you feel moved to, you know, if you want to put, like, you know, If you're pro-genocide and you want to go be part of that, go, like, get out of here. But the problem is, because they can come back. That's the problem, because what happened? I mean, then they come back and they end up the head of censorship at TikTok or working for the New York Times or, you know. Or worse, somebody protests them, an American, and then they get investigated by the DOJ, which is literally happening. Correct. Yeah. That's exactly right. So, so, yeah, I can't, I can't say that. Not to mention, I mean, it's just, yeah, it's very revealing. Another very revealing thing that I don't even.

know what to say about. I can't even really wrap my head around it. Let's put E6 up on the screen. There was a Knesset Special Committee on Foreign Workers that performed an investigation of the Thai agricultural workers who were, are there in the state of Israel. And they found that 654 out of 654 had reported experiencing sexual assault. 100% of the Thai foreign workers who were there reported being sexually assaulted as part of this study. Now, they don't typically report it to the authorities. One can only presume because, first of all, they're worried about losing their job, losing their status,

don't think they'll be believed, et cetera. But in this person opines, the same state that markets itself as a democracy relies on imported farm labor then turns a blind eye as sexual violence becomes routine, silenced, and systemic. So just disgusting abuses here that are lurking under the surface. of the society. And sometimes not on the surface.

I genuinely don't even know what to say about that. It's crazy. Yeah. That's all you can't say. I don't know what's going on over there. It's wild. It is really wild to wrap your hat around. And I don't think Israelis, like fundamentally as human beings are any different than human

beings around, which is why it's so unsettling. When you see these polls that are like, yeah, they're all for the ethnic cleansing. Like even the quote unquote liberal ones. They're down with it. They are, you know, huge numbers are like, yes, murder every Palestinian. And you're just like, how does this happen in a society? And it's years and years of ideological propagandizing. It's years and years of complete and total dehumanization of Palestinians or Arabs overall.

I mean, it's, I don't know, there need to be studies of what the hell has gone wrong in the society because it's truly sick. Intellectually, I can understand it because I've read a lot about it in terms of the, I mean, look at the way that Americans treated the Japanese, like Japanese Americans, right? And not only in terming camps, but even worse, like, in terms of the propaganda and the way that we all looked at the war. And I'm not even talking about the, I'm not talking just about the atomic bomb, but really like the way that they would cheer it. And look, I mean, that's not absolving literal Japanese war crimes and like barbaric behavior for 13 years in the war. but it's part of that where you could see how that could happen in the 40s and the 50s because that's when information was much more controlled. It's a lot harder to understand in the year 2025 in the age of the smartphone. It actually makes me doubt whether the information age makes people more informed at all. I actually think we may all be less informed than ever if you don't want to be. Because if you don't seek things out, you actually just won't see it.

You can see almost anything of what you want. It's not even controlled by the government. At that point, it's like creating your own space. Self-censorship, yeah. Nothing can enter that, right? And so you can actually live in a reality where every child in Gaza is a, you know, is a Hamas. Reading mind comp from the time that they're two years old. Right.

It's not the FDR people who have to tell you that. It's like you're all socially reinforcing it. And it kind of bubbles up from the surface. But I don't know. I mean, it is genuinely a sociological study of like this is a Western style country for year or sold itself that way. It's always had weird, you know, little idiosyncrancies. But I've visited there. I'm telling you.

If you go to Tel Aviv, it did not feel all that different from Los Angeles. I really want people to understand that. And so to watch that, I was there 12 years ago. So to look at that from there to now, it's shocking. You know, it's shocking the way that it's all flipped on. People I probably met and spent time with are either fighting or supportive, you know. It's crazy. And I see that in their podcast where they say this stuff in English.

And they're like, it makes me happy when I see God's in Starvation. Yeah. Dude, that's great. Those two guys, their podcast called, like, Two Nice Jewish Boys or something like that. And they're like, it makes me, when I'm watching a soccer football game, it makes me feel better to know that Palestinians are suffering. That makes, that heightens the enjoyment of the experience for me. How fucking sick. Just sick.

And you're right. Intellectually, like, it is a hard thing, like, emotionally to grapple with. It's a hard thing to, Matt, because you think we've evolved and, oh, we have these, like, progressive values and we, we, we, we try. try to, you know, we don't live up to it, but we try to be more tolerant of all different types of people and we don't have this like race science that says, oh no, different races or different. But they, Zionism is built on a supremacist ideology, on a Jewish supremacist ideology. And I truly think that that is a cancer. If you have an ideology that says one group is better, more deserving, gets more rights than another group, then all sorts of horrors flow directly

from there because if they're not truly human you can do anything too you can abuse them you can rape them you can murder them you can starve their children you can lie about all of it and it's that bedrock ideological foundation that i think allows all of that to flow and then the use of religion too makes it extrapotent because if god is saying hey this is like you're doing the right thing per god that it provides this more like moral justification for absolute horrors So, in any case. All right. Thank you guys so much for watching.

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