Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - 9/16/25: Trump Bombs Venezuela Boat, Israelis Say Trump Lying About Qatar Strike, NY Gov Bends Knee To Zohran, Blackpill Killers

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump bombs Venezuelan boat, Israelis say Trump lying about Qatar strike, NY Gov bends knee to Zohran, the rise of the blackpill killer.   To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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unedited, ad-free, and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. We need your help to build the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at breakingpoints.com. In Non-Kirk News, there is still a lot going on. Let's put this up here on the screen. Trump announcing that for the second time, the United States military conducted a, quote, kinetic strike against positively identified extraordinarily violent drug trafficking cartels and narco-terrorists in the Southcom area of responsibility. The strike occurred while these confirmed narco-terrorists from Venezuela or in international waters transporting illegal narcotics, quote, a deadly weapon poisoning Americans headed to the U.S.

These extremely violent drug cartels, quote, pose a threat to the United States National Security foreign policy and vital interests. The strike resulted in three male terrorists killed in action. No U.S. forces were harmed in the strike. Be warned, if you are transporting drugs that can kill Americans, we are hunting you. The illicit activities by these cartels have wrought devastating consequences in American communities for decades. So that is the second time now. Such an extraordinary action has taken place. One of the reasons why it all matters is if we'll all recall, we had Juan David Rojas here on the show. I recommend everybody go watch that interview. Why? he laid out very specifically. The designation here is against Trend de Aragua, which is a gang

in Venezuela. Well, Venezuela, as I've laid out here before, from U.S. government statistics, accounts for less than 7% of all cocaine headed to the United States. What he says there specifically about poisoning Americans, that is referring to fentanyl. Venezuela, according to DEA and published data, accounts for 0% of fentanyl that enters the United States of America. So if this is about drugs, it's a pretty shitty way to actually go after drugs. If you were going to, it would be Mexico, okay? Or Colombia or China, which gives the precursors for fentanyl. Why are they not doing any of that?

Because there's extraordinary economic implications there, and it doesn't necessarily intersect with a neoconservative regime change operation, which has been the literal dream of Marco Rubio and several other members of this administration. And why then we have to take this very seriously, Trump was asked just days ago, is getting rid of Maduro an option? Here's what he had to say. See what happens. It's not an option or not option.

We'll see. He had an election that was wrong. It was almost as corrupt as our election of 2020. You know that? You know what I'm talking about? I wouldn't say theirs was much more corrupt, but it was certainly corrupt. But ours was corrupt also. And just on that, do you think we will start with strikes on the mainland, Venezuela?

Well, we'll see what happens. Look, Venezuela is sending us their gang members, their drug dealers, and drugs. It's not acceptable. It's not an option or not option. We'll see. Well, let's look at the facts. The United States government has a $50 million bounty on Nicholas Maduro. 50 million.

The United States military has extraordinary military assets. that have only struck boats that are coming from Venezuela. The United States is here openly talking after the Secretary of State has previously in his role posted a photo side by side of Nicholas Maduro and of MoMar Gaddafi getting sodomized on television. What's your takeaway as to what all of that is about? And that's scary stuff

because all of this is being conducted with no justification, no, authorization by Congress. It's literally adventurism at the craziest level. There's apparently everyone's just okay with this. And considering how wrong, I mean, this is what nobody ever asked second order consequences. So for example, Maduro overflew jets from the over the U.S. military after that strike happened. And Trump was like, shoot it down, general. What? So now we're shooting down Venezuelan jets. We're in a different world there right now. Now it's not about drugs. Now is it? And that's when the bounty and all the previous statements here by the government

all start to come together. I think everybody needs to watch this stuff very closely. Out of everything, I'm actually the most worried about Venezuela. I think it's the easiest way to cakewalk ourselves into a quagmire. I'm not saying that we're going to invade Venezuela or any of that. But, hey, listen, targeted strikes on the regime and all of that, he floated it. He said it. Yeah, it's an option. Mainland strikes in the government. How do you think there's going to respond. Yeah. It could be crazy. Just reverse it and imagine we were the ones who like our citizens were being randomly blown on. I mean, they say they're drug traffickers. There's zero reason to take them. Maybe they are, but there's zero reason to take them at their word. This is the

second boat that they've blown up. The first one had 11 people on it. And, you know, as we've covered, very little of the drugs that enter this country come directly from Venezuela. Is Venezuela a place that drugs travel through on the way? Sure. Are we talking about boats from Venezuela? Very unusual. And Trenderaragua is not involved in that type of international drug smuggling, nor is Maduro directly connected to Trenderaragua in the way that this government, that the Trump administration has asserted. I mean, let's also remember, first of all, Venezuela has been a long time target of the foreign policy establishment here, and especially the deocons, and especially Marco Rubio, like specifically, if you recall back in the first Trump administration,

Venezuela already had sanctions placed on them, which is an attempt to topple the regime, by the way. That's the purpose of the sanctions, is to try to topple the regime. Trump increased the sanctions, and then they did their whole, like, Juan Guaido thing. And there were also indications, I don't know if you guys remember this, but some, I think it was like a former Navy seal turned up there and was arrested. There were indications that we were potentially also sponsoring mercenaries to go into Venezuela to try to directly overthrow this government. The plot failed. We denied any sort of association, but you know, you can read into that whatever you want. John Bolton, remember this, went on CNN. Absolutely. I remember.

And made some quip about, oh, well, it's not so easy to, this was in the wake of January 6th. He was like, well, it's not so easy to do a regime change, to do a coup. I would know. Yeah. And Jake Tapper's like, uh, care to elaborate. Guess what? What example, he brought up Venezuela. Now, he says, oh, well, you know, we only had a limited amount to do with that. And Tapper says, well, I have a feeling that you're not, you're holding some things back. You're not being totally straightforward. And Bolton said, yeah, I probably am.

When I cover the White House, one of the craziest things that ever happened is I was at this press conference when John Bolton was there and he had a notepad on it. And he flipped the notepad around accidentally and a photo photographer was able to grab it. And on it, it read 5,000 troops to Colombia. To date, we still do not have a single explanation about what that was about. Nobody, and that was all in the midst of this Guido thing. So, look, that's all I want to caution people here. They say it's about, I just told you, this has, I mean, look, maybe there were drugs on the boat. I don't know.

Again, if you're going to deploy the U.S. military and all of that under this justification, I think you should be honest with people, the absolute vast majority of cocaine that enters the United States, comes from Mexico, from Mexican drug cartels. all of the fentanyl comes from Mexico and from China. The precursors all come from China. All of it goes to the Mexican drug cartels. And so if that's where you were fighting, it would be a different story. It would also cause tremendous backlash inside of Mexico.

And that's the reason why they won't do it, because you can just imagine how Claudia Scheinbaum and their government with our number one trading partner might react. The economy of Texas and California would collapse overnight. If you just look at the amount of goods between the two, the way, that's where a lot of drugs come from, too. So it's just so preposterous, just from, like, a very basic level. And there's a lot of other ways that we could deal with it. You know, we've had debates here and other things on the show. One of the more genius ideas I heard recently was

to go to them and say Plata or Plomo, which is like their famous saying, money or gold, and basically say, hey, we'll buy the fentanyl from you at double the market price. I was like, you know, it's actually not a horrible idea. We're either going to kill you or we'll buy it from you. I don't think it's so bad. At least, at the very least, who would stop people from dying, but it's one of those where even that we're not seeing anything extraordinary, interesting, out-of-the-box thinking,

whatever, for fentanyl, it's let's use this as like some side show to get people beating their chest. I mean, it's the same, it's like Saddam 9-11 level connection to me. You know, to take some side-active thing and then turn it as a guise for an ideological project.

Everyone should be very skeptical. Yeah, it's this Cold War hang-over. over plus Venezuela, you know, with oil well. It's like... Why do we care about Venezuela? Can we just leave these people alone? We have plenty of oil. It doesn't matter anymore.

We're the number one oil. We're like a net oil producer. It's not the 1980s. And what was the oil company Sitco? Is that what it is? The Venezuelan one? I forget exactly. There was...

This shit is... It's irrelevant. And it's like they're obsessed with it. I mean, if you have a failed state in Venezuela, you're going to create more of... More migrants, you know, or something you're supposed to... to oppose. And I mean, it's just, it's hard to even wrap your head around why they're so obsessed

with this stuff. But, you know, and for Trump, too, I think he just likes the spectacle of being able to post these videos. I mean, this is just like random murder, basically. I mean, wild violation of international law. They don't even bother to give any sort of legal justification whatsoever. We're all assuming that they're going off of the war on terror authorization for the use of military force, but they haven't really spelled it out. They just say, like, the president can do whatever he wants to do. So I think that's a big part of it for Trump, too, is just being able to, like, you know, show how big and tough he is that the U.S. military can blow up some random dingy, you know, that happened to come from Venezuela. I prefer again to talk.

It's deeply disturbing. International law is fake, but American law is not. American law is clear. Like, you actually need, they don't have a pretext. Congress is supposed to declare war. like deploying millions of dollars of military assets with no justification and actually with the justification which is a total lie I mean they're literally the people reacting to this are like these are the people poisoning again it's one thing you want to kill the top fentanyl producer I may be on board for that as if you go through the top uh the top channels but you want to go and be striking boats in the middle of the ocean that's a very different story right and that's And using the former justification for the latter, basically using misplace anger about drugs,

the drug crisis that we have here, to transpose, again, onto an ideological project where I think crystal people who are casual observers, everybody who knows about neocons, they know about their obsession with Israel, about Ukraine and about NATO and stuff. But they forget the South American connection from the 1980s. That's a deep cut, which thankfully Ryan is. always here to tell us. Oh, yeah. But, yeah. So it's alive and well. It certainly is. This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.

This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19, 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer, in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider

fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.

Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles But what they find is not what they expected.

Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Why don't we get to Qatar? All right. Let's go ahead and put D1 up on the screen here, guys.

We've got a Barack Ravid report that Netanyahu did, in fact, give Trump a heads up before Israel bombed Qatar. Of course, they were attempting to take out Hamas political leadership, which was there gathered to assess a ceasefire proposal that had been, you know, put together probably by the Israelis, but floated by President Trump. Now, we had Jeremy Scahill on while this news was breaking of this attack on Hamas political leadership within Qatar. And immediately all of us said, it has to be the case that the U.S. had a heads up. We have sent come there. We have tens of thousands of troops stationed in Qatar. There's no way that they could attack inside of Doha and feel like that would be okay without getting some sort of a heads up.

So Barack Ravid here with the report says Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu informed President Trump last Tuesday morning that Israel planned to attack Hamas leaders in Qatar shortly before the strike took place, according to three Israeli officials with direct knowledge. Now, since then, Trump has come out to deny this report. And then the Israelis publicly said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, what he said. Sure, we totally didn't give him a heads up. He learned the way, he says he learned the same way that all of us learned what was going on there.

Okay, let's go ahead and take a listen to what Trump had to say. Did Bebe Netanyahu speak to you directly to alert you that Israel was going to be striking? No. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Yeah, go ahead. How did you learn the same way you did? How did you learn the same way you did?

Okay, sure. Prime Minister's office says the White House rendition of events is correct. Israel's action against Hamas leaders in Doha was a wholly independent Israeli operation. Israel initiated, carried it down and takes full responsibility. Again, this comes after three Israeli officials leaked to Barack Reveed. Like, dude, of course we gave him. Of course. We gave them a heads up. And what that means is that you're given a green light. Because if the U.S. had said, no, then they would not have done it. But if they say we're doing this and there is, isn't an objection, that is the same as there being an affirmative green light for this action. Now, why doesn't Trump want to claim that, you know, wants to claim that he didn't know in advance? It's because, you know, he doesn't want to be in hot water with the Qataris. He wants this plausible deniability that, you know, Israel was allowed to bomb one of our allies in the region that he has positive relationships where, again, lots of U.S. troops are stationed. He wants to be able to deny that even though, like, it's absurd to think that the Barack Reveed version of events isn't exactly what happened.

Oh, I mean, look, let's be clear here. Like, Barack Reveed at this point, he could be a stenographer for the Trump government, but he's also a stenographer clearly for some of the Israeli government. And I think really what has happened is that the Israelis are seeing very clearly that they were being blamed for striking Qatar without Trump approval. And while Netanyahu needs to maintain that fiction, the rest of his security cabinet's like, hold on a sec, the world needs the truth. We didn't do shit without America's approval. Trump had plenty of time to call this off.

In fact, one Israeli official, a fourth one, reached out to Ravid and said, your story is 98% accurate. The only issue is you said your call was at 8 a.m. It was actually at 7.45 a.m. before the attack happened. That's the only quibble that I have with what you have reported. So, yeah, I mean, look, it always seemed the case. That's what we even said. We were like, look, you have two options. Both are horrible. Israel feels compelled enough to be able to strike Qatar literally without even calling the United States. The other is that we knew about it and lied. I honestly don't know which is worse. I think knew about it

and lied is ten times worse because now the reporting from the Israeli officials want to come out and set the record straight. And it shows also that the Qataris themselves, they look like a joke because their entire security strategy is by hundreds of billions of weapons from Qatar, or start from the United States. We will host a U.S. base that will and should protect us. And now the whole Gulf has woken up and said,

oh, my God, they'll, not only can they kill us, they killed one of our citizens, the attack failed, it didn't even kill the Hamas leaders that they wanted to, and the government will just say it's totally fine. I mean, Trump, apologize for it, you know, in that statement. Since then, the Secretary of State has been like,

yeah, terrorists, they're going to get killed wherever they are. Okay. I mean, and that's why you see this, there's a Gulf confab right now where MBS and the Qataris and everybody's gathering and they're like, what are we going to do about this? They're realizing for the first time, who's actually in charge? They thought they could buy America off and even their dollars have not been enough to protect them. So good luck. And also, yeah, it's going to be great whenever they just look right across from the number one purchaser of oil in the world, China, and say, hey, there's a nice, pretty relationship sitting right over there. Yeah, great.

Absolutely right. At the same time, we're getting some leaks from within side the Israeli administration about their actual reasons for the war with Iran, which, of course, were not the same as the public reasons that were given. We can put D4 up on the screen here. So this is from the Times of Israel. They say a historic moment. Leaked transcripts reveal secret deliberation.

at the start of the Iran war. They say Channel 13 News published the details as part of a report set to air in full. They did not detail how they obtained the transcripts from these top secret closed-door meetings. But Netanyahu said at the meeting's outset, we are at a historic moment with a crucial decision if we don't stop them being the Iranians

within a few years, they will get tens of thousands of kilograms of nuclear explosives. Within a few years. Remember how this was sold. It's imminent. The breakout time is, you know, days, weeks, months away. We have to do this now. We can't wait.

Within a few years, they will get tens of thousands of kilograms of nuclear explosives. Iran has already enriched fissile material at a level that is enough for eight to nine bombs. They're working on the weaponization. If we don't act, we simply won't be here. In addition, he said, they're getting close to being the second biggest powerhouse on ballistic missiles. After we destroy some of their sites and scientists, negotiations for a deal will be held in a different reality. We've held marathon discussions over many months. An unnamed senior military official told the ministers that one of the goals of the operation

was to create the conditions for preventing Tehran from going nuclear in the long term and to improve Israel's strategic balance. They also, of course, admit that they are completely reliant on the U.S. in terms of damaging foredo. They said, Fordo will be destroyed only if the U.S. attacks it and warned that the basic assumption is at the end of the operation Iran will still position. enriched material. In the first few days, they'll be able to launch hundreds of rockets toward Israel. So there you go. The actual rationale here. And one more, a senior intelligence

official, quoted as saying, there are surprising operations we've prepared for years. Some are against surface-to-surface missiles, in addition to an intelligence operation to disrupt enemy activities, including activity to destabilize the regime. So look, I mean, again, if you were watching our coverage, if you're following any of this, it would not be surprising that this was the reality of what was being discussed. It wasn't this imminent, oh my God, they're getting the bomb right now. It was, yeah, years down the road, maybe we're concerned about this. And by the way, we're actively working to destabilize the regime. And by the way, we want to, you know, use the U.S. for our purposes to rebalance the balance of power in the region. So there you go,

the actual rationale. Guys, they said this shit out loud. How many attacks did I take? How many? This isn't about regime change. It's just, what now? It's like every single time, they're like, you're a hater. You are, they said it's just about the nuclear program and Trump said. He says it behind the scenes. Regime change. It's not about an imminent nuclear threat.

We're trying to kill as many civilians as possible to collapse the regime. What else is there to say, guys? It's out in the open. and they just lie and lie and lie. And they attack the people who warned about it. The very fact that we didn't, I mean, what should we give Trump credit for? He didn't give Beebe, what he wanted? Yet.

Yeah, yet. Right? You know, it's like, look, we got taken for a ride if that wasn't the plan all along. Again, I'm not sure what is worse, that we believed BB that it was just about nukes or not, that we allowed them to bomb while we were in the middle of diplomacy or used the diplomacy as a ruse. Either way, the message is always simple, is that Israel gets to do whatever it wants. We will co-sign it on the back end or the front end. You can make up your mind as to which particular one is the absolute worst.

I think both are horrific, and that's where we are. Yeah, absolutely. A couple more things to get to here that are really significant. So the official, the bombing campaign in Gaza City had already begun. Now the ground invasion has also launched. Israelis are talking about how the bombing is so intense. they feared that they were under attack, but no, of course, it's still just the Palestinians. And this was very ominous.

Go back to D-Zero, guys. This was very ominous from Trump for him to say this. He said, on true social, I've just read a news report that Hamas has moved the hostages above ground to use them as human shields against Israel's ground offensive. I hope the leaders of Hamas know that they're getting in what they're getting into if they do such a thing. This is a human atrocity. The likes of which few people have ever seen before, don't let this happen, or all best

are off, release all hostages now. And, I mean, effectively, what people are reading into this is that they're trying to pre-justify the hostages getting killed in this bombing campaign, renewed bombing campaign and ground invasion in Gaza City. So when Trump says, oh, the hostages are above ground being used as human shields, then later on, if it ends up that the hostages are predictably killed in a sort of, you know, all-out war assault on Gaza City, they can Blame, Oh, Hamas was using them as human shields. That's the reason that they ultimately got killed, not the incessant Israeli bombing. And by the way, starvation campaign. I also wanted to mention that this is significant. And perhaps Ryan and Emily will dig into this more tomorrow.

But the UN Commission of Inquiry officially concluded that Israel is committing genocide. They're calling on. I'm reading from Prem Thacker now. The UN body calls on nations to stop sending weapons to Israel, ensure people within their jurisdiction are not aiding or inciting genocide and hold those who are accountable. So for this official UN body to come out with assessment is significant, you know, it's not going to matter in the U.S., but in other countries around the world will take this seriously. They do have a responsibility to, you know, to prevent genocide and not aid or incite genocide. So, you know, can be further pressure on the Israelis and certainly Israelis who are trying to travel abroad. So, you know, that was a significant finding.

And then the other piece that we wanted to bring to you guys, if we could put D5 up on the screen, Harz did this investigation into mental breakdowns and suicides within the IDF. But in the context of talking to these soldiers about their trauma from what they saw and what they did in Gaza, they also elicited a bunch of confessions of a variety of war crimes committed. against Palestinians by the IDF. Let's go ahead and put a couple of these up on the screen so you can get a sense. This says, for my son, a sniper in the Nahal Brigade,

changing rules no longer enough. The wound he describes is already too big. It's gone very deep. It started before for about two months. Every day we have the same mission to secure the humanitarian aid in the northern Gaza Strip. His day and that of his friends begins at 3.30 in the morning, accompanied by drones and armored forces.

They set up a sniper position and wait. According to him, between 7.30 and 8.30, the trucks arrive and begin unloading their contents. In the meantime, the residents try to move forward to take a good place in line, but there's a line ahead of them that they do not notice. A line that if they cross, I can shoot them, explains Benny. It's like a game of cat and mouse. They try to come from a different way every time.

And I'm there with a sniper rifle, and the officers are shouting at me, take it down, take it down. I shoot 50 to 60 bullets every day. I stopped counting X's. That means death. I have no idea how many I killed a lot. Children. So that is a description of the, that is a confession, of the routine aid massacres

that journalists, Palestinians, whistleblowers, have been, doctors have been speaking about with regard to aid distribution. I think we have one more for you that we can put up here on the screen. They say they forced him, threatened him. The battalion commander would scream over the radio. Why aren't you taking off? They're advancing on us. It's dangerous.

He describes an example of the pressure. The feeling is that we're being placed in a possible situation. No one prepared us for it. officers don't care if children die, nor do they care what it does to my soul. As far as they're concerned, I'm just another tool. So, you know, it's kind of gross to frame this in the context of, like, oh, these poor soldiers who committed war crimes now have trauma and stress, but very useful reporting and confessions of these routine war crimes and atrocities.

And the fact that this is coming from the top, remember, for so long we were sold, oh, there may be some rogue, bad actors, they're just undisciplined. They need to stop recording this stuff on their phones, et cetera. I mean, now it is just absolutely clear. The plan is from the top. This is an intent of leadership and, you know, the UN just joining the world consensus that this is an intentional genocide, which has been architected from the top. Well, if anybody wants to dispute this, it's from Israeli media, as usual.

Directly from ID of soldiers. To quote Mr. Kirk. Probably not Hamas. To quote the late Mr. Kirk, I feel like Israelis can criticize their government more than I can. What a country. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer.

She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable.

How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the on. iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed.

I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?

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for the New York City mayoralty. Let's go ahead and take it. listen to that. Fellow Americans and Iowans, we are at an inflection point. The country's not going to fix itself. The national party is not going to fix itself by itself. It's up to all of us. It's up to all of you. And it means supporting our Democratic nominee in New York City's mayor or race, Zoran Mandami. He is focused on ensuring that people can afford afford to live in the place that they work. That should be our goal in New York City, Des Moines, and every town and city in place across the United States of America. Donald Trump and New York's financial elites see that as a threat, the idea that everybody who works

in New York City should be able to afford to live in New York City, and they have mobilized to defeat him. Yet many Democratic members of the Senate, Senate and House, representing New York, have stayed on the sidelines. That kind of spineless politics is what people are sick of. They need to get behind him and get behind him now. So interesting there, both in terms of the content, saying this is exactly the kind of spineless politics. People are disgusted with the Democratic Party.

Saga, I think that is absolutely the case, him directly calling out, you know, the New York Democrats, which would include Chuck Schumer. and Kim Jeffries and Kirsten Gill Brand for not endorsing the Democratic nominee Zoran Mamdani and also raises the question of whether Chris Van Hollen, since this was given in Iowa, maybe himself positioning for a presidential run, which is kind of interesting. He has been a bit of a leader, I would say, in Trump 2.0. He's the one who flew down to, you know, to meet with Kilmar-Abrega Garcia and really made a lot of noise about that, Abrega Garcia being, you know, from having lived in Maryland.

So he's also been outspoken in terms of Gaza. Now he's not like where I am. He doesn't call it a genocide. But he did just go alongside another Democratic member. And they released a report saying this is ethnic cleansing. So he has been one of the more consistent and courageous voices. He's also one of the ones who went tried to observe the aid distribution. They wouldn't let him on the airplane to do the flyover.

He'd been there earlier as well, you know, more approximate to October 7th, also blowing the whistle on. hey, the reason sufficient aid isn't getting in. It's not because of Hamas. It's because of the Israelis. So he has sort of staked down a leadership position for himself. So that was kind of interesting. A couple other things here. There's just this, I think there's a sense now of inevitability around Zoran.

And a lot of politicians, some politicians trying to kind of like make their peace with it and stake out their position. Kathy Hokel, governor of New York, put out this op-ed saying, endorsing Zoran Mamdani. I mean, it's crazy that you even had to think about it since he's the Democratic nominee. She goes out of her way in this piece to be like, oh, I disagree with him. I disagree with him. I disagree with him. But, you know, he's our guy and he's better than the alternatives. Hakeem Jeffries responded to Chris Van Hollins attack on him. Mr. Jeffries has hinted he was moving toward a decision on endorsement. By the way, Zoran won his district,

Hakeem Jefferies, by like double digits, quite handily. Leader Hakeem Jeffries will have more to say about the general election, well, in advance of November 4th, said a spokesman. Meanwhile, confused New Yorkers are asking themselves the question, Chris Van Hu. So that's where we are with that. Meanwhile, it looks like maybe Eric Adams E5 is going to drop out of the race, potentially, but we got these indications before. So we'll see. Tara Rosenblum reporting two sources, tell me New York City Mayor, Eric Adams has made a decision will likely drop out of the New York City mayor's race by the end of this week. And I think in a final sign of desperation, Andrew Cuomo is trying to pretend like he hasn't been stridently pro-Israel to the point of even being a lawyer for Benjamin Netanyahu

himself. New York Times reporting Cuomo staunched supporter of Israel says horrific Gaza war must end remarks for a departure for former governor Andrew Cuomo who trails Assemblyman Zoran Mamdani in New York City mayor's race. And I think this one saw, with Cuomo here is maybe the most significant sign of the times because you'll recall in the primary Cuomo really thought it was a winning argument for him to attack Zoran and his opposition to Israel to Zionism and to you know Israel's genocide in Gaza he's the one who made that an issue in the primary now we're in the general election so presumably a less liberal electorate So if that message was going to stick anywhere, it would be with the general electorate.

And even Cuomo, who has been a consistent strident defender, is looking at the polls and going, I got to change my tune a little bit if I'm going to have a prayer of winning this mayor's race. And I don't think he has a prayer at this point anyway. But it's more interesting to see that in his last desperate flail, he's realizing even he needs to reposition himself with regard to Israel and Gaza. This is what makes Hakeem Jeffrey so extraordinary. It's like, governor endorsed him. What are we doing here? It's so obvious around it.

This is just what being a Democrat is now. It's kind of an interesting prospect, actually, for how he's going to navigate what it's like to be mayor. I'm pretty curious, you know. Mr. Zoran is a lot smarter than a lot of his critics give him for. I don't know if you saw he's going to apologize to the NYPD about calling them racist in 2020. Let that be a lesson.

Shitlibs is you actually should backtrack on a few things if you want to get yourself elected. But on the other hand, he's also going to instruct them that they need to arrest Netanyahu if he comes into town. So I'll take that trade. It's equal application of the law. We believe in the law, not defunding the police and Mr. Chalwar Camis shitlib that he used to be. So let it be a lesson, you know, ditch the Chalwar and the third worldest weirdo act and just, you know, put a suit on and be normal. And you yourself can take extraordinary positions and you can get the governor and the Democratic establishment and win the primary and make your way. So I am curious to see in particular how he gets, you know, how he navigates all of this and what it's like.

It is very telling to see the Hakeem Jeffries, you know, the way that he is reacting because he is the literal leader. I don't know. I just, it just feels tea party-esque to me. Oh, yeah. I actually would say, for on Zoron's part, dude, you need to, like, man up a little bit here and start attacking them straight up. Like, maybe not Schumer, because he's the New York senator. And I know Hakeem Jeffries is from New York as well, but I don't know. At a certain point, take on the Tea Party thing.

These corrupt, you know, politicians are taking money from their donors and telling them not to endorse me. I fight for you, and they don't, and you should vote their asses out of the office, something. Like, take on a posture. Because if they're going to act with such impunity, why should you not just take up the call of battle? I think in terms of the politics of it, that makes sense. I think he also has an eye. I mean, he's basically won this race. They're a new poll out today that has even if Adams and Slewebreda out, he's still leading Cuomo by double digits.

So this race is over. I think he has an eye towards governing. And the Newark governor can make your life miserable. Just asked Bill de Blasio, because when Andrew Cuomo was governor and de Blasio was mayor, they were legendarily at each other's throats. Now, de Blasio actually was still able to get through his pre-K, universal pre-K, which was an extraordinary achievement over the fierce objections and roadblocks of Cuomo.

But if you are able to have something approximating a working relationship with the governor of New York, your mayoralty is more likely to be successful. Now, with regard to Hakim Jevries, that's a different deal. You know, I'm sure he is influential in New York. I don't really have a clear picture of how influential or how that works or what sort of pain he could cause for Zoran. But I think, you know, in addition to the Israel piece with Hakeem Jeffries, the other part is as Democratic leader, I think he wants to extract some sort of promise from Zoran that he's not going to back other primary challenges. And, you know, so what's ironic is that by from Hakeem Jeffries holding out and Chuck Schumer holding out and all of these like,

mainstream Democrats holding out, I think they only spark more fury and interest from, you know, the left of the party to primary people, not to mention, let's say in 2028, they get their like centrist establishment Democratic nominee for president. Every lefty is going to turn around and say vote blue no matter who, that didn't apply when we're talking about Zoron. So I think they are being very short-sighted and creating a lot of problems for themselves. And you're right, it does have Tea Party vibes. Like Hakeem, Zoron is. wildly more popular in New York than Hakeem Jeffreys or Chuck Schumer is. That's why I'm saying. He should just take it up and be like, no, I'm, you know, it's like,

I'm the captain now, bitch. You know, like take over. I want to see more of that energy. These people just got to go. I support that energy. Not even just for the left thing, because I don't care about left takeover. I hate this ossified structure. It's undemocratic. It's narcissistic. It's the worst of politics. We need to, normalize for all parties. When you suck, you've got to go. And, like, that was the best part of the Tea Party energy at its best was just like, no, you're done. And I think Democrats need more of that. Yeah, I'd like to see more. That's what the Democratic base is looking for. Yeah. That's what I'm saying Zoron, the rest of these guys, step up. Like, you know, like, go after them. Be like,

screw you. I'm going to win. At this point, like, you will win 100%. So now, like, you got to fight. I mean, look at Platner in Maine. This guy has never run for anything. Come out of nowhere and now is like elbowing the sitting governor of Maine potentially. I still think she's going to run. But I think he's going to win the primary. And he is being more, you know, I mean, they asked him, will you vote for Chuck Schumer for leader? He's like, no. Yeah, he was like, no. He didn't mince words about it. He's like, no, we need to go in a different direction. We'll see who the options are, but not Chuck Schumer. So this is a, it is a winning model. The Democratic base is absolutely hungry for it. And I do think you're going to see a lot of

other mainstream. We already saw it with, you know, even in our interview with Alyssa Slotkin, you're going to see a lot more mainstream Democrats trying to reposition themselves on Israel because they realize that they have become wildly out of step with where the Democratic base is and that it's a big problem for them politically. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail and Pike. This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me and I hit her. I just hate her, I'm hit her, and hit her, I hate it.

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Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.

Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand

and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Crystal, what do you take a look at? We are still in the early days of divining these specific motivations and downward spiral that led Tyler Robinson to go from Mormon conservative upbringing to public execution of a leading Trump world figure. But one piece of his ideology is pretty clear.

Edge Lord, according to authorities, the one piece of evidence Robinson intentionally discarded was his weapon and ammunition engraved with various irony-laden brain-wrot internet phrases. The casing on the shot that ended Charlie Kirk's life was engraved with a 12-year-old furry bashing meme, notices bulge, woo-woo, what's that? Which tells us an important thing. This assassination was a shitpost. That is the lens to analyze it through. Another of the casing's references of video game, Hell Divers 2, and a specific bomb that you

could send on your enemies in the game with the command upright, down, down, down. This command line sort of became a meme in image boards where it would be deployed to kind of represent, you know, ending an argument, but almost more so as just like, if you know, you know. And that sort of signals the in-group there. Another of the four casings references Bella Chow, which is an Italian anti-fascist anthem from the World War II era that has stuck around

and remained very popular online. It's been used both in left and right-wing political contexts, and it's used in a lot of video games. And then the fourth and final shell casing was engraved with, if you're reading this, you're gay, LMAO. This was a shit post. It was designed to be maximally disruptive and incomprehensible, cloaked in layer upon layer of irony

so that nobody would know what he really meant, unless they were our guy. This performs a kind of nihilism that plays really, really well on particular image boards and Discord servers where this guy spent most of his life. And I say most of his life because that furry meme is from 2013. He was 10 years old when it was first posted and became popular. He, like you and I, grew up alongside this part of the internet

that trickled out through the other platforms that we went on and has actually informed and driven a lot of our politics. If you're reading this, you're gay laughing my ass off. the world of internet memes and black pill, nothing matters humor, bursting into the real world in the form of a public spectacle of murder. The ultimate way, I guess, to achieve notoriety both IRL and online, to guarantee you live forever in internet lore and political history, to enlist yourself as a warrior in some imagined cause, to make it so your piece of shit life leaves a mark. Robinson was extremely online, apparently, but not in the way that someone like me might have meant it, in the race to turn up a social

media footprint for Robinson and uncover the killer's true ideological motives, internet sleuths have come up pretty up to handy. His brand of way too online was apparently Discord servers, video games, perhaps some black pill meme-soaked message boards. That's what we're being told anyway. And if this is true, Robinson appears to be part of a broader trend. We are witnessing the rise of the black pill killers, predominantly young white male misanthropes, meaming themselves into radicalism and violence. You don't have to look far for some other examples. In fact, on that very same day that Tyler was allegedly lying on a roof, meme-laden ammo in hand,

16-year-old Desmond Holly shot up his Denver area high school, critically injuring two students before turning the gun on himself. Holly was apparently fond of neo-Nazi symbology and a gore forum called Watch People Die. He lionized previous school shooters, including the Columbine killers, who kicked off the school shooting horror in the very same county where Holly would then go on to conduct his own rampage.

According to the Denver Post, Holly's online profile was, quote, littered with references to mass shootings and anti-Semitic views. A sheriff's office spokesperson said he had been, quote, radicalized through an online extremist network, but has left details of that network vague. Holly also apparently drew inspiration from a different Blackpill Wisconsin mass shooter whose alleged manifesto was titled, quote, war against humanity. In that manifesto, the author writes that humans are filth and society is a plague and that their own parents are scum. This all, of course, follows closely on the heels of the mass shooting at Church of the Annunciation in Minneapolis. That killer, Robin Westman, posted a long YouTube video, including journal writings, littered with internet and cultural references that were all over the map and very confusing. In particular,

Westman's weapons were inscribed with over 100 different symbols and messages, things like, release the list, nuke India, skibbity, some Cyrillic writing, and references to a bunch of other school shooters, potentially the most revealing inscriptions, said, quote, there is no message. Now, some analysts have theorized that Westman may have been radicalized by an online nihilist subculture that glorifies acts of violence as in-group currency called 764 or 09A. Could be, but who knows? Westman also had a history of mental illness, intrusive violent thoughts, and suicidal ideation.

Trump's attempted assassin, Thomas Matthew Crooks, might also fit the mold of the Blackpill killer. Like Robinson, Crooks was a high-eastern. academic achiever. He scored a 1530 on his SAT. Classmates described him as a bit of a loner, a bit of an outcast, frequently bullied. His Google history showed that he was searching for information on depression. Authorities have never fully explained a motive for his attempt on Trump's life. But he was apparently searching for nearby appearances for a whole host of political figures, everybody from Joe Biden to Merritt Garland to Catherine Princess of Wales, in addition to Trump, suggesting he was basically open to murdering any major political figure who,

happened to come nearby. Officials found a social media account linked to crooks that they said had allegedly posted extreme anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant content. Now, in each instance, the overarching ideology here appears to be nihilism, the belief that nothing matters, humanity is garbage, the world is ending, everything sucks, and there is no redemption. It is this black pill belief that spawns a trans neo-Nazi school shooter posting racist internet crap alongside Trump hate, or a gun-loving white guy scrawling, hey, fascist catch. In a truly excellent new piece, Freddie DeBore argues that in these spectacular acts of political violence, we are witnessing murder as a form of meaning-making, with the ideological

content scraped together semi-randomely in a desperate attempt by the killer to cast themselves as part of some broader community and project. DeBore calls this quote, Cargo cult meaning-making, he writes, the tail wags the dog, acts we have grown to see as expressions of meaning are in fact childish attempts to will meaning into being through violence. Now, this argument is likely going to be the most difficult to accept in the case of Tyler Robinson, who chose, of course, an extremely ideological figure Charlie Kirk as the target for his assassination and inscribed pseudo-political phrases on the bullets.

Of Tyler, Freddie writes, quote, someone who scrawls an Italian anti-fascist slogan onto a bullet casing and also, if you read this, you are gay, LMAO, as well as obscure video game references. This is exactly who I'm talking about. Clearly, he had some sort of ideological urge, some sense that his violence should contain meaning, but his impulses and influences are incoherent. Indeed, that urge has been inculcated in online communities that are defined by nothing so much as, well, nothing. The all-consuming L-O-L-L-L-L-O-L-L of contemporary sad young man online culture, forum after forum dominated by an endless race to the bottom of nihilism and self-hatred.

Going to guess that Robinson has not deeply read in the works of Camilo Berneri, I think instead that he saw some quotes pop up randomly in the same frenetic and directionless discord servers where he lived the rest of his life and thought they would be cool things to write on a bullet. Now, we may still learn more about Robinson that throws a more coherent political ideology into relief. But even if we do, it will not erase the message he wanted to say, from those LOL Nothing Matter shit posting bullets, the one thing that he left intentionally

at the scene. Now, Crooks and Robinson are particularly significant, I think. They both signal the merging of the school shooter archetype with the political assassin archetype, social outcast, young white men, stewing in a brew of disaffection, potential mental health issues. It makes sense, though, doesn't it? If you're looking for notoriety in modern America, school shootings have become so common, they barely raid anymore. If you want infamy, you're going to have to up the ante. Political murder

still packs that horrific shock factor that these killers apparently crave. And if you're looking to conjure meaning for a meaningless life, the whole nation will desperately scramble around looking for clues in order to assign a coherent ideology. Now, early speculation about Robinson's motive focused on the possibility he was a griper. That looks very unlikely at this point, but a TikTok explaining the differences between grouper nihilist and Charlie Kirk-style Christian Nationalists actually helped very effectively to unpack the Black Pill worldview and understand why it can be so appealing for so many. If you're looking at a swirl of cryptic memes and trying to reverse engineer a motive,

you're going to misread this story. What looks like politics is often subculture. What looks like a manifesto is sometimes a dare, wrapped in a joke, wrapped in a void. The black pill is the conviction that decline is irreversible. If nothing can be redeemed, then the only creative act is negation. And that's where accelerationism comes in. In this context, acceleration means pressing on every social fault line, race, gender, religion, class until something breaks. It is not policy, it's physics. The expectation is collapse, followed by nothing. It packages three things people crave when they feel powerless. Certainty, community, and a role. Certainty says the game is rigged in doom. Community says, we are the ones who get the joke. And a role says speed the ending.

It is a toxic story. It's also tidy and it's available 24-7 on your phone. The antidote is not to romanticize institutions that have failed people. It's to refuse the seduction of entropy as identity. Now, it's counterintuitive, at least to me, but I guess it can feel good to give up on everything, to succumb to hopelessness, embrace the fatalism, I'm cooked, your cook, society's cooked, and the only thing to do is to set it all ablaze. The internet, of course, is acting as an accelerant here, disconnecting us from real life, from real human beings, radicalizing some and launching its twisted fruit into the real world.

But remember, most other countries in the world have full internet access, they have gaming, they have algorithms, AI, and message boards. Yet the mass shooting epidemic, it is a uniquely American epidemic. I suppose it turns out when you take the toxic brew of gun culture, hyper-individualism, mass inequality, untreated mental illness, and a failed and unresponsive democracy, you get a whole lot of young men who feel like they are doomed to failure and have zero stake in society. Rage bait algorithms are just gasoline on that fire. And I fear we are just now beginning to see the consequences.

Freddie DeBora has something to say about the risks ahead as well. In a healthy system, we can absorb the shocking actions of a single or even a handful of these types of black pill killers. The overall national landscape would continue to be governed by policy, elections, social structures, civic life, those sorts of things. Do we live in a society that feels to you like it's got those sort of shock absorbers right now? We are already watching as the right launches at Witch Hunt declares war on the political left backed by the president of the United States and his most powerful advisor, Stephen Miller.

there is no seeming end to the cultural and material factors as well that have sent so many young men spiraling into this sort of online oblivion. As Freddie writes, quote, there's a moment when the ambient low-level radiation of purposeless violence ceases to be mere noise and becomes the trigger for a terminal feedback loop. We appear poised at the event horizon of a cascade where the smallest act committed in the absence of ideology could initiate a period of true ugly and spectacular public violence, a kinetic reaction that will reshape the social phase space with terrifying, unpredictable certainty. Indeed, we are all, I think, filled with a sense of existential dread that while Charlie Kirk might be the first, he will almost

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It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.

Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they do? deserve to live. We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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