Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - Mini Show #6: Chris Cuomo Allegations, Rep. Gottheimer Corruption, Hillary Clinton Booed, Kristi Noem Scandal, Factory Farms' Lies, and More!

Episode Date: October 2, 2021

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CNN primetime anchor Chris Cuomo is now being accused of sexual harassment in the pages of the New York Times. And not just sexual harassment of anyone, but of his former boss. So let's put this story up on the screen, which is pretty interesting. It's titled, Chris Cuomo sexually harassed me. I hope he'll use his power to make change. The woman in question is named Shelly Ross. I'll read you the details of her version of the episode. She says she was at a party with her husband. He sat behind her

on an ottoman sipping his Diet Coke as I spoke with work friends. When Mr. Cuomo entered the Upper West Side bar, he walked toward me and greeted me with a strong bear hug while lowering one hand to firmly grab and squeeze the cheek of my buttock. I can do this now that you're no longer my boss, he said to me with a kind of cocky arrogance. No, you can't, I said, pushing him off me at the chest while stepping back, revealing my husband, who had seen the entire episode, at close range. We quickly left. So the crux of the article, by the way, isn't for her to be like, and I'm so traumatized.

It's for her to call out his hypocrisy for having pretended to care so much about sexual harassment, expressing all of this angst and chagrin about it, wearing this truth t-shirt in solidarity. Of course, we already know the details of how he was helping his brother to overcome his own issues with sexual harassment. But Sagar, we were talking about this. When I first read this, I was like, oh, this might be true. It might not be true. It might be a little bit different. But she kind of has him dead to rights here

because he sent her an email after the fact. We can throw, I think we have the email we can put up on the screen. The headline is, now that I think of it, I am ashamed. Though my hearty greeting was a function of being glad to see you, Christian Slater got arrested for a kind of similar act,

though born of an alleged negative intent unlike my own. And as a husband, I can empathize with not liking to see my wife patted as such. So pass along my apology to your very good and noble husband. And I apologize to you as well for even putting you in such a position. Next time, I will remember the lesson, no matter how happy I am to see you. What in the? Okay, there's a lot going on here. First of all, it's a bold move to grab your boss's butt cheek in front of her husband. I'm gonna assume- At like a work party, too.

At a work party? Yeah. There are several layers to all of this. Then to send an email apologizing for it, but also not really apologizing for it. Apologizing first to the husband. I love that. Sorry. And also somebody was arrested, but I didn't do anything. But also, I'm really sorry about that.

I don't know. What's the excuse? He's Italian? I mean, like, yeah. Is there an Italian code that you're supposed to sexually harass your boss I don't know. What's the excuse? He's Italian? I mean, like, is there a code in the Italian? Is there an Italian code that you're supposed to sexually harass your boss in front of her husband and then send her a rambling and strange email? Also, did you notice it was sent at 6.30 p.m.? I'm like, it's a little early to start drinking there. I'm not sure what's going on there.

Is that what you were reading? I'm just saying. I did like the, I appreciated the Christian Slater. Christian Slater, yeah. That's not someone I haven't thought about in a long time. But, yeah, I mean, I kind of liked the way that she framed all of this. Because, again, she's not like, she's saying there's a massive level of hypocrisy here. Here's a guy who's holding himself out as some great champion, courageous champion, defender of women and advocate, you and advocate for women who have been subjected

to sexual harassment and sexual abuse. And this is the way you've conducted yourself. And you know, if he's doing this at a work party this brazenly with your boss, like, she's probably not the only one. Of course. This is not a one-off kind of an episode. And there have been other past rumors

and things that he's talked about. He's been caught on the phone even talking about, I think, with Michael Cohen or whatever. But look, really what it is, and she makes this point, he was outwardly helping his brother trying to survive the Me Too scandals, advising him, helping write statements and drafts while he was working at CNN. He used his platform in order to propagandize on his brother's behalf for his brother's failed response to COVID, then made up some chicken shit excuse about,

oh, I can't actually cover it whenever he's in trouble, but I can whenever he's not in trouble. And then it all comes to the head that it turns out that behind the scenes, he's a total and complete scumbag, or at the very least was back in 2005 whenever he exhibited some absolutely abhorrent and disgusting behavior. A lot of this is just outward, you know, moralizing, genuflecting, whatever. But it just goes to show that, and look, this isn't the first time, in his private life, he's legitimately off his rocker. I mean, what was that whenever he did his fake emerging from the basement? But then it turned out that he'd actually been outside.

And his neighbor was like, dude, you have COVID. Like, get the hell away from me. Or whenever he went to go view a house in the Hamptons. I remember doing a whole segment about this. I mean, just the arrogance of this dude. In that way, he and his brother are so similar. Like, just the total arrogance. You really think that way, he and his brother are so similar. Oh, 100%. Just the total arrogance. So entitled.

You really think, like, you're a very famous person. You think no one's going to notice? You've told the world. You're broadcasting from your basement. You've made your COVID diagnosis, this whole big, like, thing. And you don't think anyone's going to notice that you're outside walking around, riding your bike, I think is what he was doing? Yeah, he was riding his bike. No one's going to notice. The level of arrogance of that,

which is also manifest in this little incident that you think you can just brazenly grab your boss's ass at a work party and that's going to be fine. It's not going to ever be a problem for you. I saw this type of attitude, whether it was with regards to women or anything else, so endemic within the TV cable news industry that it is not surprising at all. James, our producer, was like, at this point,

he'd have to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue to get fired. Actually, he still wouldn't. That's a pretty good comment. But I'm also like, this dude is not all that special. Like, why are you going to such lengths to protect him? I mean, he does have apparently the highest ratings of CNN primetime, which is no great feat. Surely you could get some other, like, you know, pompous blowhard to sit in the slot. There's, Lord knows, there's plenty of them out there who'd be happy to take the job. So I'm not sure why they're so aggressively defending this guy. To the best of my knowledge, CNN hasn't said anything about this story. And we know that they certainly didn't punish him at all for directly advising his brother,

being a political advisor repeatedly on meetings with the campaign team, the political people, and the lawyers through all of this lying to the CNN audience about what his involvement was. They had no issue with that. Can you imagine if somebody accused Tucker of this and had him dead to rights in the pages of New York Times? With the email. Forget it. With an email where he acknowledged sexually harassing? Get the hell out of it. It would be front page, like absolute banner news coverage. This just floated into the ether, and they're going to ignore it like they always do every single time. You'll come up on the air, probably take some fake vacation

so that everybody just kind of forgets what's going on, and then it all comes back. It's amazing to watch. It's disgusting, really, that these people continue to get away with this stuff, especially when they're moralizing something different to you every day. But unfortunately, CNN viewers won't care because they're not going to hear about it. So there you go.

There you go. All right, we'll have more for you guys tomorrow. All right, guys, very excited. This is our inaugural partnership segment with The Daily Poster and David Sirota. He joins us now. So I explained this yesterday, but we're officially entering into a partnership. We're going to do this weekly recurring segment to post on Friday. Obviously, we're promoting it to our people. You're incredible reporting that

you can't find anywhere else. You're going to push the segment out to your people. So great little collaboration here that I'm very excited about. David, welcome. Good to see you, David. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Solidarity. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. That's what this is all about. So you have a great piece, you and Andrew Perez.

Let's go ahead and throw this up on the screen. Look, we know the surface level negotiations with regard to the reconciliation package and the infrastructure bill. But what you have been getting at is what's really going on behind the scene and what's really driving these various characters to do what they're doing. In particular, you focus here on Josh Gottheimer. You describe as the billionaire's Democratic bag man. He is the House's top recipient of private equity cash. David, lay out for us how that is impacting his approach to the reconciliation bill.

So Gottheimer is one of eight or nine House Democrats who's trying to undermine the so-called two-track strategy, the strategy by which the only way to really pass the reconciliation bill is to keep it linked to that infrastructure bill. He's one of the eight House Democrats who's trying to de-link the two bills and pass the infrastructure bill alone, which many believe would ultimately kill the reconciliation bill. Now, as you said, as we reported, he is the top recipient of campaign cash in the U.S. House from private equity, the private equity industry. The private equity industry, you will not be surprised to learn, has lots of things that it objects to in the reconciliation bill, particularly all of the

potential tax measures that could be in a final reconciliation bill. Even more specifically, things like the carried interest tax loophole, which is the loophole that allows private equity moguls to classify their income as capital gains rather than income and therefore pay a much lower tax rate on that income than a typical American worker pays on their income. There's also provisions in there raising taxes for billionaires. Obviously, the private equity industry has lots of very, very wealthy people in it. And of course, the private equity industry has an incentive to only pass the infrastructure bill because in the infrastructure bill are provisions that are designed to encourage and push state and

local governments to fund infrastructure projects through so-called public-private partnerships. An example, Blackstone is a private equity giant that is Gottheimer's number one, their donors are his number one campaign contributors. Blackstone is heavily invested in the infrastructure world, is heavily interested in those kinds of public-private partnerships. And finally, Blackstone and other private equity firms are very invested in the fossil fuel industry. They have an incentive, therefore, to not want the reconciliation bill to pass. The reconciliation bill's program is designed to transition the country or begin transitioning the country away from fossil fuels. Yeah. I mean, so, David, you laid out very well about

the private equity industry and more, but Gottheimer has been at the forefront of a lot of wealthy giveaways, including the SALT tax. He has been the forefront at trying to bring back tax deductions for the wealthy. I mean, he seems to be almost all encompassed here. And my question is, can you describe his district itself? How out of step is he with his own constituents? How is he pairing these together and making it so he works on behalf of the wealthy people? Well, look, it's a wealthier district in New Jersey. It is a Biden district. We should mention that. It is a certainly a swing district, but Biden won that district. And and look, the things that he's pushing for, let's be

clear, it's one thing to push for sort of upper middle class tax breaks, sort of upper middle class affluent giveaways to envy from a district from there. I don't think that's good politics, but I guess you could argue some of that. But let's be clear, he's pushing for giveaways that would mostly benefit like the crazy super ultra rich, like the Dr. Evil twisting the mustache kind of villainous giveaways to the super rich, right? Like the carried interest tax loophole is for a tiny handful of people. The salt tax breaks that you're talking about, the stat is something like 80% of the benefits go to the top 10 or 5% of income earners in the entire country. And I think it's 50% of the benefits go to the top 1% of income earners in the country.

So these are not broadly shared tax breaks, even among the kind of top 20%, top 30%. We're talking about a tiny handful of people. And what I think that actually is the tell for is that he and his colleagues who were with him on this, they don't necessarily care about what's good for their district. They care about what's good for the tiny segment of the population that provides them with a disproportionately huge amount of the money that they use to buy their elections and their reelections. Right. And where they may well go and work after they finish with their public service, quote unquote. And David, this isn't a one-off. Gottheimer has been a handmaiden to private equity for a while now, based on your reporting here. Yes, absolutely. I mean, he pushed for

an expansion of Fed programs to give private equity firms more money during the pandemic. He is somebody who has used a congressional hearing recently to defend private equity and public pensions investing in private equity. There's been a lot of reporting on huge fees and reporting on private equity firms basically fleecing public retirement systems. He has been at the forefront of defending that industry. And look, again, I go back to the idea that the reconciliation bill is

a wildly popular bill. There's a lot of Congress people who support the reconciliation bill going out there saying it's a wildly popular bill. But Gottheimer is a good example of the fact that for the folks who are trying to kill it, and let's be clear, he has said, I'm not really not trying to kill it. I'm just trying to get the infrastructure bill passed. But clearly his strategy would kill or at least make it easier to kill the reconciliation bill. And what Gottheimer is kind of proving is that there are a lot of these members who are trying to kill the bill who don't really care if it's popular broadly in their district. They are answering to the small segment of donors who disproportionately bankroll their re-election campaigns.

In other words, they're betting that just having a huge amount of campaign cash will allow them to buy election and re-election, regardless of whether they're voting down a very popular legislation. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the stunning part here, which is that the things that they're holding hostage, David, are, you know, literal giveaways, not just to the rich, as you say. I mean, the SALT cap one, yes, it impacts people who are suburban, but the vast majority of it just goes to people with a net worth of over a million dollars. And it just seems that that is what they are holding the legislation hostage over, not anything principled, at least from what I can tell. That's right. They're holding the legislation hostage for the donor class. They are betting they have a political formula that bets that nothing at all matters.

Nothing. It doesn't matter whether you're for or against a popular bill. The only thing that matters is having a giant war chest of campaign cash to simply flood the airwaves with ads and buy election and reelection. And I'll be honest, as horrible as it is, it's not necessarily a, I guess, politically ineffective strategy. They've been able to do that for years and years and years. But what this whole thing has shown is that the corruption is now completely out in the open if you just take a look at it. Not a lot of media organizations are willing to follow the money. This should be the central thing that we're

talking about, that every media outlet is talking about, these kinds of things. The Democrats who vote down the drug bill, their connections to Big Pharma, Godheimer and private equity, this should be the central point of discussion in the reconciliation bill. But it's really not, it's barely part of the conversation. It's part of the conversation here and in independent media because it's important. And it's frankly what is really actually in reality driving this legislative debate. Yeah. And it's so infrequent that they ever get confronted with this set of facts. It just gets to fly under the radar. But I'm know, I'm really waiting for the day we have that popular grassroots uprising

in favor of maintaining the carried interest loophole. Sure, that's just around the corner. David, thank you for the great reporting. Thanks. Very excited to have our official partnership. Of course, we've relied on your reporting and your analysis for a long time now, but excited to make it official.

Thank you, my friend. Good to see you, man. Good to see you. Thanks to both of you. Absolutely. No problem. We'll have more for you guys this weekend. Hope you enjoyed that.

We'll see you back here officially for our full show on Monday. Hey, so remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was? Well, here we are again to remind you that becoming a premium member means you don't have to listen to our constant pleas for you to subscribe. So what are you waiting for? Become a premium member today by going to BreakingPoints.com, which you can click on in the show notes. I wish we were in a world where Hillary Clinton disappeared from politics, but she continues to tout herself across the global stage as some sort of leader. She was in Belfast in Northern Ireland in order to give a commencement speech at Queen's University. She was dressed up in the full regalia, but a couple

of people in Ireland served her a little reminder of what they thought of her and what a lot of people seem to. Let's take a listen to that. it's so funny you know you're watching this because she put it out there as like being hailed abroad in Northern Ireland. It was a big thing for her and the Clinton administration. And she goes there and this is the reception, that famous soft power that she had whenever she was secretary of state. There's a lot going on, I think, within the clip. It's just funny and amazing that they think, you know, even after all this time, you can bring her here without all the baggage of the Obama administration, Libya, and more. And look, it's always just personally satisfying.

Like when we showed you that clip of Bush getting shot by an Iraq war veteran to see them directly confronted because the most entitled woman on the planet really believes that she's, you know, entitled to this, like being hailed. She, look at her, she was dressed in like full regalia with a little kid, like holding, you know, dressed in almost like colonial outfit. I thought that's what we weren't supposed to be about. So it's just, it's humbling experience. Yeah. It's interesting to think about the fall from grace of the Clintons because you think about up until very recently, I mean, they did the Clinton Global Initiative and everyone converged on New York and this convening of all the global elite and all the do-gooders in the world. And it was such a hot ticket and it was such a prestigious thing. And you would go in the lobby. You'd see all these people, these power brokers, having their meetings and wanting to be seen among the attendants.

It was like the hottest ticket in town. This was like back in my MSNBC days, and I remember people at MSNBC would brag about getting an invite to this or that event. To a Clinton party? Oh, my God. At the Clinton Global Initiative. It was a big media event. To the Clinton party? Oh, my God. At the Clinton Global Initiative. It's a big media event. All of this. I mean, but all of these global donors, all of these heads of nonprofit organizations,

Nobel Prize winners, business leaders, all of them would converge on New York. And, of course, Hillary and Bill and Chelsea were the center of the show. This was this whole world that they'd created for themselves where they got to be cosseted and fetid and adored and sucked up to. And now when you actually leave your little cosseted confines of whatever bubble you've constructed around yourself, this is the response that you've seen. And I think that this kind of like reimagining, not really reimagining, but actual reckoning with the truth of the Clinton legacy, this has obviously been going on for quite

a while where Bill has either been, you know, very defensive about parts of his legacy. He's actively apologized for certain parts of his legacy. And then the other piece of this is, you know, places, a lot of rural areas of America had a pretty strong affinity for the Clintons. It used to be that Bill would get rolled out into more red areas, more rural areas, because his very first campaign, before he actually got into office and did anything, he ran in this very populist way that I feel your pain, all of that. And so one very specific example that I happen to know about having lived in Kentucky is he used to be very popular, like in the mountains of Kentucky. And he went there during Hillary's campaign and was just absolutely booed.

And reportedly- Because they remember people who were there behind the scenes, he was apparently pretty shocked by that because he still has this image of himself as like this populist, this person who's beloved in rural America and in the heartland and all of that. And it's just completely soured and could not possibly be further from the truth at this point. No, absolutely right. But they'll continue to act as if that's not the case when they've enriched themselves to the tune of like hundreds of millions of dollars and, you know, still wanted to prance about the world and be fetid, but their day is over. So there we go. There you go. All right. All right, guys. Enjoy the day. We'll have more for you tomorrow. Wow. You guys must really like listening to our voices. Well, I know this is annoying. Instead of making you listen to a Viagra

commercial, when you're done, check out the other podcast I do with Marshall Kosloff called The Realignment. We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing, realigning in American society. You always need more Crystal and Saga in your daily lives. Take care, guys. South Dakota Governor Kirstie Noem getting herself into a little bit of trouble here. A new investigation from the Associated Press, let's put this up there on the screen, sees that as her daughter sought a state license, Noem summoned the agency head. Now, the facts of the matter here are amazing. Noem's daughter, Cassidy Peters, obtained a real estate certification. After she failed the exam, Governor Kristi Noem summoned to her office the state employee who ran the agency, the woman's direct supervisor, and the state's labor secretary. The daughter was also in attendance at the meeting. So all of this is so that Kirsten Ohm's daughter could become a certified real estate appraiser. And during this entire thing, the labor secretary herself called the agency head to demand her

retirement according to now what is all being alleged in an age discrimination lawsuit. So all of this transpired in July of 2020. Now, to be clear, you know, there's the denial. They say the Associated Press is disparaging the daughter in order to attack the governor. But no wonder America's trust in the media is at an all-time low. Now, look, I ain't got no faith in the media, but you ain't denying anything here, whenever it comes to this. Here's the facts as we see them. Daughter fails a real estate appraiser exam, doesn't get a license. The governor calls in her civilian staff all the way up the chain of command, the employee, her boss, and then that person's boss, and pressures them in order to give her daughter a license, which she then gets the license. Now, appraising, that's some pretty good money there. They literally require you to do it. So you're one

of those people. You've got the state accreditation. You've got incoming cash flow. Looks like the governor's daughter's only 26 years old. Really, this isn't about her. This is about her mom abusing her office in order to, you know, specifically make her family pass state hurdles and make more money. It's a stunning, stunning accusation. And once again, she doesn't deny it, at least in terms of Yeah, she just, she does her whole, you know, right wing talking points, but doesn't actually deny. It's like, well, did you do it or not? Yeah, exactly. Like, does her whole, you know, right-wing talking points, but doesn't actually deny. It's like, well, did you do it or not? Yeah, exactly.

Like, well, okay, did the meeting happen? What happened at that meeting? The thing that's really funny to me about it is, like, just how low-level the corruption is. Yeah, I know, I know. Your daughter could just take the test again. You know, you have to go to all these. She could be a normal person. A lot of people do that.

Just be a normal, okay, you didn't do well the first time. Try again. I'm sure there's a process by which you can study and go apply again and take the test again. And better luck next time like a normal person. So that's something that's funny, which also raises the question of like if you're willing to go to these lengths for this incredibly minor setback in your daughter's life, what else are you willing to do? What else are you using state resources for? Is another question that I have here. It also reminds me of some of the stuff with Joe Manchin and his daughter. That's what I was going to say. This is par for the course stuff. Don't think it's just a Republican that does this. Of course not. And the thing in particular, I mean, first of all, so his daughter, Heather Bresch, she ends up being the CEO of this pharmaceutical company, gets multimillion dollar golden parachute, jacks up the price of EpiPens, all of this nefarious dealings.

But it all starts, she gets a fake MBA from West Virginia University shortly after daddy is elected governor. Were they just outright like invent classes that she never went to, invent grades that she never received? Ultimately, people had to resign and all of this to grant her this fake MBA. And then, of course, the way that she originally got the gig at this company that she wasn't qualified to work with is because daddy knew the founder and they happened. I think they were hanging out at some sort of sporting event or whatever, and that gets her in the door. So this happens. One might also think about Hunter Biden and some of the way that he's benefited from daddy's name and proximity to daddy and all of that. But there's something funny about the fact that it's such a kind of low-level thing and such a minor setback.

Real estate appraisal. Right. It's not even like a multimillion-dollar deal. We're talking about modest middle-level thing. It's such a minor setback. Real estate appraisal. Right. It's not even like a multi-million dollar deal. You know, we're talking about modest middle-class income. Right. Exactly.

So, anyway, that's what's going on there. Really interesting. There is, you know, there's going to be an investigation. She says that she's going to recuse herself, whatever.

But, look, these certified appraisers, they can launch their own businesses. They can make more than $50,000 a year, like I said, inside of the state of South Dakota. Yeah, it's not bad. And, you know, Peters, the person who was working as a state registered appraiser, she actually worked under the supervision to apply for her own certification. It's actually not an easy hurdle that you're

supposed to be able to pass. Applicants have to show that they can perform them to national standards and putting used to 200 hours of classroom education and months of experience. So she was denied based on all of that criteria. As you say, look, a normal person would say, okay, you know, got to go back to the drawing, got to do a little bit more, you know, show that I can pass the test or whatever. And then, you know, all of this, it looks, you know, pretty much like they have them dead to rights. Like this person got a text saying be ready to go to the governor's office, be ready to discuss appraiser certification procedures, having the daughter herself be present at that meeting, your boss's boss personally there. Then somebody gets fired for not doing this. This is like Troopergate.

Remember that? Whenever Sarah Palin fired some trooper or whatever? I was thinking about that, too. This is that exact same, like, what is it about these Republican female governors? I can't quite thread up all the specific details of Troopergate. But, yes, it does. It was exactly like Troopergate. So, there we go.

We'll see what the investigation finds. But not a good look for Ms. Noem. All right, y'all like Troopergate. So there we go. We'll see what the investigation finds, but not a good look for Miss Gnome. All right, y'all enjoy your day. We'll have more for you later. One more thing, I promise. Just wanted to make sure you knew about my podcast with Kyle Kalinsky. It's called Crystal Kyle and Friends,

where we do long form interviews with people like Gnome Chomsky, Cornel West, and Glenn Greenwald. You can listen on any podcast platform or you can subscribe over on Substack to get the video a day early. We're going to stop bugging you now. Enjoy. Interesting find from Lee Fong. Let's go ahead and throw his tweet there up on the screen. So factory farms that are producing pork have hired a Republican PR firm to spin new animal welfare

regulations in California as racist using the disparity fallacy that is popular with liberals. People of color eat pork, so any price increase disproportionately hurts minorities. He links to a story here from Civil Eats. And the back story here is there's a proposition that passed in California. It's animal welfare. And you might have heard these sort of fear-mongering stories about like, oh, my God, there's going to be no bacon. There's going to be no pork or the costs are going to go through the roof, et cetera, et cetera. All of this or much of it at least planted by industry groups that are worried about having to comply with these new animal welfare regulations. And so their newest spin on this, entirely predictable, is to plug into people's genuine concern for equity and racial justice and argue that this animal welfare legislation is racist because minorities

disproportionately eat pork, so we can't have any price increases here. And by the way, civil eats goes through the purported price increases have been much overstated by the way. And the producers can certainly adjust to the new regulations if they so choose. They don't have to pass on all the costs to the consumer. And oh, by the way, they don't seem to care so much about racial justice and, you know, people mattering and treating people of color well when it comes to their own workforce. I was going to say,

what about their own workforce who are like- Disproportionately immigrants, minorities, and who work in the- I mean, these jobs are the most difficult, brutal, dangerous jobs

in the entire country. We covered how pork processing plants are in coronavirus, and these were hotbeds of illness because they were forced to come into work sick. They fight against minimum wage increases for these people. So please with the idea that they care at all about people of color in this country. I know people who have worked on the chicken line and more. It is absolutely not a joke what these people have to go through for literally nothing and are treated terribly both by the employers and look, I mean, the animals too. I'm going to focus on the people, obviously. But, you know,

factory farming is a scourge on the country. It's something that we all just overlook because people like cheap meat. But look, and in terms of all of this, this is all complete BS. I actually do think California should have done a little bit more to address any of the disruptions in the supply chain on the price side, just because we already have all these floors, supports, and more for the meat industry. And what these factory farm producers are doing is they're trying to weaponize, again, like you said, people's goodwill towards saying, hey, when stuff goes up at the dinner table, this means maybe less for my kids. This means less of my wallet. This means less of my ability to do this while also making them necessarily have to choose. And I don't think we should have to choose. It's a false choice.

Even the amount of price support that we have for these fake industries here in this country, agriculture and more, I think we can find a little bit in order to make the price go down for the actual people having to buy meat or bacon or whatever. But look, it's the final example of how woke politics is used so effectively by these businesses in order to push it in whichever direction that they want. And Wall Street, they have some new thing, I think, that's like you can't go public on the NASDAQ unless you have one female or black or board member or whatever. I'm like, is that going to change the way that they conduct themselves whatsoever whenever it comes to bilking another company or their workforce? No, it's not.

Same thing here. They're going to use, and this is the best thing, is these are Republican firms who can see the salience of this and are like, oh, we'll just use this and push it out. Here's the thing, it could work. And if you actually care about even animal welfare, to me, you know, the actual people who are affected by the price increase, I think they matter above all. Then you have to really, you know, call this stuff out whenever you see it. It is just so disgusting.

Like the weaponization of it. But that's what a lot of this has come down to is that they can use the disparity stuff in order to hijack people's brains and be like, oh, God, we have to fight against this. Who benefits? Who benefits? It's the actual factory farmers. They just want to make more money. That's it. Yeah. They don't want to pay their workers well. They certainly don't want to treat the animals well. They don't care about the people who might have to suffer through a price increase. They don't care about any of it. They just care about their bottom line. And as you point out, the added layer here

that it's a Republican, that it's Republican PR firms just shows you how incredibly cynical all of this ultimately is. So good little find there from Lee Fong showing the way that these people

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