Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - Mini Show #8: Rahm Emanuel, Joe Rogan vs CNN, Let's Go Brandon, Prince Andrew, Kamala Cringe, and More!

Episode Date: October 16, 2021

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have one of their great reporters on this morning, Julia Rock, who's got a couple of new stories we want to get to. Great to see you, Julia. Good to see you, Julia. Thanks for having me. So you have a piece out about former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, everybody's favorite. And you detail what you describe, and we can throw this tear sheet up on the screen, as the corporate-funded rehabilitation of Rahm Emanuel. And effectively, what you do here is break down the money that he's taken from various corporate interests, how that has potentially impacted some of the commentary that he has offered in mainstream

outlets, and also, by the way, the fact that none of those mainstream outlets ever disclosed that he had these very direct conflicts of interest. Just break down for us what you found. Yeah. So after Emanuel left the mayor's office in Chicago in 2019, he got a job with ABC News as a pundit, as well as a couple of, you know, smaller gigs writing op-eds for places like Politico, The Washington Post. He had a really short stint at The Atlantic as a contributing editor. And during that time, between 2019 and when he was nominated for the ambassadorship to Japan a couple of months ago, Emanuel just kind of trashed key progressive policies such as Medicare for All, a Green New Deal,

as well as mainstream positions within the Democratic Party, such as raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, something that Kamala Harris and President Joe Biden both support, making college more affordable and accessible. And during that time when he was writing those op-eds and appearing on ABC News to disparage progressives, he was also making quite a bit of money working for an investment banking advisory firm called Centerview Partners. He made about like $12.5 million during the two years between being in office and being nominated for the ambassadorship. And we looked through the deals that that firm was working on during that time. And as it turns out, a lot of those deals were with major pharmaceutical companies and fossil

fuel companies. So some companies would be familiar, such as Gilead, which manufactured the government-funded COVID treatment drug, as well as Pacific Asthma Electric, the utility in California. So these are companies that are involved in lobbying against the policies that Emanuel was trashing on TV and in the pages of mainstream publications. And like you said, it was never disclosed that he was taking in money from this firm and working on these deals while he was writing those offense and going on those tirades. It is wild. I mean, $12 million, that's good work if you can get it. And what I'm really looking at here was that not what you're pointing to

in the disclosure is that during that exact time, whenever he was in the media, this investment deals that they were working on were directly impacted by policies he was discussing. Is that right? Can you say more about that? Yeah, I mean, the Gilead pharmaceutical deal that you guys point to, just explain that a little bit. Got you. Yeah. So policies that he is on TV talking about exactly are policies that would directly, you know, affect these companies and the things they're working on. So Medicare for all is a good example. I think, you know, not a lot of people necessarily know this, but some of the biggest lobbying and lobbying money against Medicare for all has been from the

pharmaceutical companies. And, you know, the same goes for a Green New Deal, which is less of a specific policy, but kind of a collection of climate policies. And utilities, again, have been really important kind of sources of money for lobbying efforts against climate action. So, yeah, again, these are these policies he's talking about would kind of directly affect these companies. It's not some like tangential or down the road impact. Julie, you also have a new story out this morning about look, we've focused here a lot on the fact that Democrats since 2006 have promised to work on this time. We're really going to do it, guys.

We're going to negotiate with these prescription drug companies to get you lower prices, something that is such a no brainer, something like 80 to 90 percent of the American people supported. And yet for all of these decades, they failed to get it done. But you point to there are other mechanisms that the Biden administration could use to lower pharmaceutical drug prices. So far, they have not pursued those avenues, but just lay out for us what tools are on the table for them. Yeah. So one of the main tools at the Biden administration's disposal is called March in Rights, which is something that a couple of senators have really been pressuring the Biden administration to take on, as well as, as we reported today, Biden's current Health and Human Services Secretary has long supported the federal government doing this. And March in Rights is basically a tool that the federal government has if a government subsidized patent.

So an example of this would be the COVID vaccines. We know that those vaccines were developed using patents that were funded with government research. If, you know, if there's a product that was developed using a government subsidized patent and the company that has that patent isn't kind of distributing the product in a reasonable way or pricing it in a reasonable way, the government can essentially say, you're not using this patent correctly. We're going to give another manufacturer the right to produce this product. And this is something that can be used to lower drug prices. The Trump administration was opposed to using it to lower drug prices and issued kind of an 11th hour rule to prevent the federal government from doing that. But that rule, which is now actually sitting in the Commerce Department under Secretary

Gina Raimondo, could be rescinded. So the Biden administration could essentially rescind that Trump rule that prevents margin rights from being used to lower drug prices, as well as kind of deploy margin rights to go in and start licensing these patents to other manufacturers to lower prices. And what has HHS Secretary Becerra said on this in the past? So, yeah, there are a couple of occasions where he's really pressured the federal government to use these rights. During the Obama administration, he was one of a group of congresspeople to pressure the Obama administration to use marching rights to lower drug prices. And then again, as recently as last year, when he was attorney general of California, he petitioned Trump HHS Secretary Alex Azar to

use margin rights to make the Gilead treatment drug for COVID that I was talking about earlier more accessible to a broader population. Wow. Seems like another candidate would be if this Merck pill for COVID ultimately pans out, they're wanting to charge like 400% of what it costs to make. This is again, another drug that was developed using government public funding. So U.S. taxpayer funded the development and then the company turns around and charges 400% of what it costs to make in a gigantic price gouging scheme. The Biden administration could do something about it, but so far they have chosen not to. Julia, thank you so much for breaking down these great reports that you have out this morning.

And listen, guys, we give the pitch every week, but you and the whole team over there at The Daily Poster are doing such great work actually focusing on the stories that matter in D.C., the money that flows through this town and, you know, creates some of the messes that we ultimately see. So if you guys are able, make sure you go over and subscribe to The Daily Poster so that you can be informed about all of those things straight away. Julia, thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you, Julia. Thank you. A lot of people watch with great interest. Dr. Sanjay Gupta over at CNN appearing on the Joe Rogan podcast. Both Crystal and I listened to the entire thing. I recommend that you all go do so as well. Joe actually presses Sanjay Gupta hard on the case for vaccination. Sanjay Gupta does a good job of laying out what I would say the

most reasonable pro-vaccine case there is. Joe does a good job of representing the other side. Regardless, we need to see a lot more of that in our media, people who are actually engaging with one another. It was a very respectful conversation. There was one part, though, that we had to pull out. We were going to wait until Friday in order to post this, but because there's so much interest, and I think we'll go ahead and post it today on Thursday for those of you who are watching. Joe is grilling Sanjay Gupta on, remember CNN's decision in order to call ivermectin horse dewormer, specifically in reference to Rogan, after he got sick. And Joe really grills him and gets Sanjay Gupta to admit that CNN made a mistake and should not have said

what they said. One of the rarest things you're ever going to see. Let's take a listen. By the way, I'm glad you're better. Thank you. I'm glad it only lasted a day. You're probably the only one at CNN that's glad. No, no, no, no, no. The rest of them are all lying about me taking horse medication. We should talk about that. What bothered you? It should bother you too. They're lying at your network about people taking human drugs versus drugs for veterinary. Calling it a horse dewormer is not a flattering thing. I get that. It's a lie. It's a lie on a news network. And it's a lie that's a willing, that's a lie that they're conscious of. It's not a mistake. Yeah. They're unfavorably framing it as veterinary

medicine. Well, the FDA put this thing out. You saw that. Did you see that thing that the FDA put out? What did the FDA put out? It was a tweet, and it was snarky. I admit it. They said, you are not a horse, you are not a cow, stop taking this stuff, or something like that. Why would you say that when you're talking about a drug

that's been given out to billions and billions of people, a drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the winning Nobel Prize in 2015, a drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the nobel prize nobel prize in 2015 yeah yeah a drug that has been shown to stop viral replication in vitro you know that right why would they lie and say that's horse dewormer i can afford people medicine motherfucker this is ridiculous it's just a lot of anyone is thick but don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know they're lying? You know that they know that I took medicine.

Like, here it is. This is ivermectin. You got it with you. This is it right here. Somebody gave it to me. All right. Hang on. The thing is, we're going so fast.

I feel like I'm missing... Do you think that that's a problem? That your news network lies? Well, I don't, I don't. Dude. What did they say? They lied and said I was taking horse dewormer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Along with a bunch of other medications. If you got a human pill, because there were people that were taking the veterinary medication, and I, you're not, obviously. You got it from a doctor so that it shouldn't be called that ivermectin can be a very effective medication for parasitic disease and as you say it's probably you know i think what a quarter billion people have taken it around the world i get that way more so way more billions of people have taken it

can i just come back to the one i want to talk about? No, no, no. Two things on the ledger. Before we get to that, does it bother you that the news network you work for out and out lied, just outright lied about me taking horse dewormer? They shouldn't have said that. Why did they do that? I don't know. You didn't ask? You didn't think that was your, you're the medical guy over there. I didn't ask. I should have asked before coming into the podcast.

But they did it with such glee. No, Joe. Yes, they did. I should have asked before coming into the podcast. But they did it with such glee. No, Joe. Yes, they did. I watched. I watched. I watched. You watched. No, I don't think there's a glee.

Yes, they did. I don't. No one takes. Joe Rogan says he has COVID. Taking livestock drug despite warnings. Yeah. Jamie had to pull this up. You want to play it?

Does she have glee? This is your news network. I'm going to watch. Let's see. I'm going to watch. He then goes on to play Aaron Burnett describing it as I think she says veterinary medication

he also references Brian Stelter who had said when you have a horse deworming medication that's discouraged by the government that actually causes some people in this crazed environment we're in to actually want to try it that's the upside down world we're in with figures like Joe Rogan so that's the upside-down world we're in with figures like Joe Rogan. So that's something to watch.

That was—look, you're never going to see that. You're just never going to see it. And again, I want to give both of these men credit for engaging, and you should really listen to the whole conversation because it is actually fascinating. They go through the different studies on ivermectin. They talk about myocarditis and the incidents among young boys. I mean, they really go through it all.

And it is extraordinarily important and I think good to listen to. And so little of that dialogue has happened in American discourse. But to this moment right here, you see Joe's like fighter instinct. Gupta is on the ropes and he is not he's not gonna let him out yeah he had to tap he had to tap he tries to change

this up but this is going so fast let me talk he's like no no no no no no why did they say it why did they lie and say it's horsey warmer

and he makes this really important point at another point because this went on for quite a while this is like 10 minutes and recurring came up a couple times

throughout the podcast because not because Joe like cares about his own like ego or whatever, but because it's really important that people feel like a news network is being straight with them. And so he draws the connection of, okay, well, if they're going to lie about this thing, which is easily checkable and like obviously untrue, what else are they lying about? Are they lying about Syria? Are they lying about Afghanistan? Are they lying about Russia? Like what other, Hunter Biden, whatever it is, how do we trust these other things that you're asserting with similar levels of confidence when something's so easily checked you're just outright wrong about? Yeah, and Sanjay didn't have an answer. Like,

I've actually met Sanjay Gupti. He's a really nice guy. I can say that. And I do actually think he's a genuinely honest actor. Remember, he's the one who asked Dr. Fauci about natural immunity. He's the one who did the documentary on the origins of COVID. And he got Dr. Robert Redfield, the CDC director, to tell him about the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And he's the one who is very open to the idea of a lab leak, talked about gain-of-function research. Some of the primary source materials that I have used to talk about lab leak come from Sanjay Gupta.

So that is on the table. That being said, Sanjay did not have a good answer. And when Joe was like, do you understand how when people see this, how do I know you're telling the truth about Hunter Biden, Russia, Putin, or anything else? He said, do you understand that? And look, I get it. Sanjay Gupta, I mean, he's been on TV since before I was born. And I would really say he is not representative of everything that's wrong at CNN.

But he didn't really have a good answer. There is no answer. What is the answer? There is no answer. The answer is yes, I understand that, and I think it's upsetting. Obviously can't say that. Right, and I was a little upset this morning because I woke up. I thought the conversation was great.

And Gupta put out this kind of op-ed where he talks about, and he's like, well, some of my friends told me not to do this. And it was very much like a signaling to the elite circle of the world, like, oh, well, I had to do this because talking to Joe Rogan, like, here's why I have to justify it. He rolled this whole op-ed. Dude, you don't have to justify anything. You're on the number one podcast show in the country. You have a book to sell. That's easy enough justification, number one. Number two is, if you can't even talk to somebody, what's the point? The guy's a doctor. If you're one to talk about somebody who is going to have the best case, like the best case for the vaccine against somebody with some honest questions about it. Why do you have to write this whole

sob like, here's why I did it. Here's why it was important. Dude, of course it's important. You probably reached more people there than you ever did on CNN. Yeah. And yeah, I found that part very annoying. I understand 100% why he has to do it. It says a lot about kind of the place that we're at where this whole idea

of how could you like platform Joe Rogan? He doesn't. He gets way more viewers and listeners than CNN does. So you're not platforming or legitimizing anyone. You have an opportunity to speak to an audience, address Joe's concerns, say, listen, this study, I mean, one of the studies that Joe brought up about ivermectin, for example, Sanjay was able to point out like, well, you know, at the same time that these people were given ivermectin, they were also given the steroid that's proven to be effective. And I didn't know that either. Exactly. So, I mean, that's a really useful piece of information. And they went back and

forth on these specific studies where it's okay, but here's, you know, that was, this was the sample size, or here's why that may have been linked to natural immunity decline in COVID in India versus ivermectin. So they actually were able to go through with factual information, what each of these pieces meant and how people should think about the relative risks of the disease versus the vaccine. And it was an extraordinary three-hour conversation. Sanjay, there are a couple of things that were noteworthy to me. They did get into it. It was not particularly contentious, but they did dig into the definition of gain-of-function research. That's right. At the very end, actually, for those who are looking for that. And those exchanges that Rand Paul has had with Fauci.

And I think Gupta sort of rightly pointed out, like, look, obviously, Paul, he didn't say this quite so directly. But, like, look, obviously, this guy's got an agenda. But in the same respect, they're parsing the language. And they have their very specific technical definition of gain of function that they think this doesn't technically meet. But by lots of definitions of gain of function, obviously. So they get into that. He talks about the cover-up of China not letting people in to look at what's going on in the lab, test the antibodies of the workers who got sick and all of those things. So that was interesting.

There's also a moment at the end where they start talking about Joe's political ideology. That's true. And Gupta was really surprised. Right. He was like, I thought you were a libertarian or something to the effect. And Joe's like, no. I mean, Joe actually describes himself as 100% left. I think some people would dispute that.

Sure. I think he's, you know, he's heterodox. He has a mix of views. But he's like, I'm for universal health care. He said he never voted for a Republican in his life. I'm for expanding the social safety net. And UBI. And UBI and talked about Andrew Yang. He also said, though, like had his critiques of the left,

too. But I thought that was kind of revealing as well, because Gupta, even though he had said he had listened to his podcast, had clearly taken in and internalized just the sort of caricature-ish view of Joe and what his views on all of this are. There are some parts that are extraordinarily frustrating to listen to. There are some parts that are pretty competitive. There are some parts where they really come to agreement. But overall, it was definitely a worthwhile three hours. You need ten times more of this in terms of actual engagement. So I thought it was a great conversation. I encourage

you guys all to go listen to it. This particular part, I'll admit I enjoyed it. It was satisfying to watch. Very satisfying to watch. All right. All right, guys, thanks for watching. One more for you later. Hey, so remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was? Well, here we are again to remind you that becoming a premium member means you don't have to listen to our constant pleas for you to subscribe. So what are you waiting for? Become a premium member today by going to BreakingPoints.com, which you can click on in the show notes. So I've noticed an interesting phenomenon online. Everybody keeps saying, let's go, Brandon.

And I said, what the hell is going on? And it has been traced back to a clip which has recently come across my radar, which may be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. An NBC reporter trying to cover up the fact that a crowd of people at a sporting event are shouting F Joe Biden by saying, look at them, shouting, let's go, Brandon. I swear this is real. You can judge it for yourself. Let's take a listen. Thank you to all of our partners. Oh, my God. It's just such an unbelievable moment. Brandon, you also told me, as you can hear the chants from the crowd, let's go, Brandon. Brandon, you told me you you were gonna kind of hang back those first two stages and just watch and learn.

What did you learn that helped you there in those closing laps? Oh my god, it was learning how each line didn't stay to one and everything shifted top to bottom so much. Alright, look. It's clear as day what the crowd is shouting here. I mean, I don't know. Here's the thing. I do kind of feel for her in that situation. I don't really know what you do. I think that's like network TV so they have standards. Do they cut

away? And so she's like, let's go back. Where did that even come from? How do you even possibly try and spin that? This dude's name was Brandon. I believe his name was Brandon. By the way, I know nothing about NASCAR whatsoever, so cards on the table there. I have no idea even who this guy is. I mean, I'm going to say

it's possible that she actually thought they were saying that. You think so? Well, if you think about it, you're standing there, you've got your earpiece in, it's very loud, it's very hard to hear, you're trying to hear back at New York or wherever they're based, and then you're talking to this dude and you hear something in the background. I'm trying to hear back like at, you know, New York or wherever they're based. And then you're talking to this dude and you hear something in the background.

I'm going to stand up for her and say maybe she actually thought that. But that doesn't make it any less hilarious. No, I mean, that is so funny. And so now it has become a sensation on media. I see it in our comment section. I see it in everybody's comment section. Let's go, Brandon. I was like, what is going on? I was like, who is Brandon? What's happening?

Eventually, after I saw the video, I was like, oh my God. I cannot believe it. As you said, look, maybe she did actually believe it. Maybe she was panicking. She was like, I have to do something. You could say it's enough, Brandon. But yes, Crystal, this is the origin of the Let's Go Brandon meme, which I got to say, in terms of sticking power for memes, I think this one's going to be around for a while. This is a solid one.

This is a solid, solid thing. Let me attempt to make a serious point here, which is, remember at the beginning of the Biden presidency, he was hard to demonize. Like, there wasn't energy around hating him. At CPAC, the speeches weren't really about him. Even Trump. Right, in February.

That's right. Yeah, even Trump, like, didn't talk about him that much. Fox News, you know, they, and they still prefer to, you know, they'll drag up AOC and act like she and Bernie are really running the show or something like that. I'm a one too. But, oh yeah. But there's definitely starting to be more organic actual hatred towards Joe Biden. Not just sort of like, oh, he's a doddering old man and he's irrelevant. We're afraid of these other things. But actual like hatred and venom directed at him.

Which, you know, look, it's predictable and the partisan media machine is very good at generating those kinds of feelings. But I also think it's a bad sign for him because we covered some of the poll numbers where he used to be really firmly above water on things like, you know, do you trust him? Do you like him? Is he looking out for people like you? And now he's underwater in those same character traits and that was really the thing that he had going for him as he was kind of like inoffensive, hard to demonize, kind of likable. He kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt

and I think that he's lost a lot of that. Oh, I think that's right. And it's interesting, you know, to that point, I asked our producer James, I was like, where does this come from? And apparently it's an organic thing kind of at SEC games and more. It would make sense.

My own hometown in the SEC. So I completely understand what's going on there. But you are entering that once you start to get that revulsion of a figure, that's a problem. Because Biden is not Barack Obama. People really loved Barack Obama. So he was both hated and he was loved. People feel fine about Joe Biden. And now people are beginning to hate Joe Biden. I'm not saying it's in the same category as Obama and even Trump. But, and you point this out all the time, I would much rather

be those two gentlemen because you have people who would actually come out and vote for you, crawl over broken glass. There's not a lot of Biden people like that out there, but there's beginning to become some sort of constituency which is against Biden himself, or maybe just the National Democratic brand. And you put that together, that's an electoral problem that they're- Yeah, you don't want to be in a situation where your detractors really super hate you. Hate your guts, right. And your supporters are sort of like, eh, he's okay. And I kind of think that's the territory that Biden's getting into.

I think that's right. So let's go, Brandon. Let's go, Brandon. We'll have more for you guys later. Wow. You guys must really like listening to our voices. While I know this is annoying, instead of making you listen to a Viagra commercial, when you're done, check out the other podcast I do with Marshall Kosloff called The Realignment.

We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing, realigning in American society. You always need more Crystal and Saga in your daily lives. Take care, guys. Some very troubling and yet predictable developments in the Prince Andrew-Jeffrey Epstein connection. Let's put this up there on the screen, which is that the UK police say that they will not take any action on sexual assault suits against Prince Andrew. Now, this matters for a number of reasons, which is one of the reasons that the accuser, Virginia Gouffre, she has accused Andrew of sexually abusing her when she was a teenager. She filed suit in a US court in the US district for the Southern District of New York. Now,

part of the thing is, is in these suits, is you have to be served papers. And so this is where the British police protecting Andrew have come into play, because the Duke has maintained that he's never been served. And the reason he's never been served is because he's being protected by the Metropolitan Police. And so Virginia Gouffre's legal team has tried repeatedly in order to get and see Andrew to serve him with papers. They were told by the Metropolitan Police, you could consider him served by giving us these papers or the people who guard him. But his legal team says that doesn't count. And so effectively what you have is a situation where Virginia Gouffre, the accuser of Prince Andrew,

is unable to actually serve Prince Andrew with papers, at least in a legal definition, although that's being challenged in court, because he's being protected by the British police. Now, the way that the British police had kind of been saying that they could keep up their morale or keep up the image of them is they're like, well, we're going to do an investigation. Well, now they just dropped the investigation. They said they're not going to take any action on this whatsoever. They said they will, quote, continue to liaise with other law enforcement agencies on matters related to Epstein. But what did I just tell you? Which is that the Metropolitan Police is already protecting Prince Andrew by making sure that he can't get served

with papers. And then they say that they'll liaise with other agencies. Okay, well, how about this? The FBI, since 2019, has been trying to interview Prince Andrew. They've tried on multiple occasions and he refuses to cross the pond and come to the United States and sit down for a deposition. And whenever our agents have tried to go talk to him in the UK, they say, no, it's not going to happen. This was under Bill Barr and its current US Department of Justice policy. So what's going on? Why don't you liaise with us? Their police commissioner says, quote, no one is above the law. But come on now. At this point, he's a prince in a palace being protected by police. And that's his excuse, Crystal, for why he's a prince in a palace being protected by police.

And that's his excuse, Crystal, for why he can't get served with papers. And then his own country's police department is dropping the investigation into this guy. It doesn't get any more corrupt than this. I'm going to guess the U.S. isn't going to provide a whole lot of pressure to. Well, what are we supposed to do? Yeah, it's he's the prince. It's their government. They are. They should be giving us him on a platter.

If they really want to... Oh, please. Yeah, that's... I mean, just ask yourself the question. Is anybody, like, low-level, regular person who is charged with these kinds of crimes, please? Like, it would be over.

And yet, he's protected and looks like very possible he won't face justice ever. Zero accountability for this. And imagine how much courage it took for Virginia Giffray to come out and, you know... Very possible he won't face justice ever. Zero accountability for this. And imagine how much courage it took for Virginia Giffray to come out and, you know. And to pursue this in court. Knowing what she'll be subjected to.

Knowing that these types of shenanigans will be pulled to protect him at any cost. And that's exactly what's transpired. No, it is exactly what's happening. And look, even the judge here in our, the Southern District of New York, was starting to say like, come on guys, this is ridiculous, whenever it came to Prince Andrew's legal team. But the whole reason that they're challenging this on the serving grounds is because they don't even want to go on the record to deny or affirm in court what happened. They don't want to, they want to avoid any admission or denial of guilt. Yes, Andrew has said, you know, in his 2019 BBC interview that he didn't do anything. Okay,

you know, he could say whatever he wants. But remember, he has now dodged all the FBI to actually speak on the record. Here, he wants to avoid saying anything in court, and they want to try and dismiss this on procedural grounds. We'll see how that works out. I mean, at the end of the day, he's still a prince. And then the only entity which can do anything, which is the Metropolitan Police, they protect him. They could go and they could serve him with papers. They could investigate him. They could depose him on behalf of the FBI. All of that, they're not going to do anything. So just the latest in terms of this, they really hope, what they want, they want, the monarchy and all that, is they want the press and the public to just lose interest. They're like, look, if you drag this out long enough and we stick him behind a wall, which is what they've done now for almost two years, people are just going to forget.

They'll turn the temperature down. They should not forget because this guy, you look at the interview for yourself and you can say that in my view for his lawyers, he's clearly a liar. Look, if you're innocent, go clear your name. There you go. It's that simple. Okay. All right, guys, we'll have more for you later.

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podcast platform, or you can subscribe over on Substack to get the video a day early. We're going to stop bugging you now. Enjoy. Some important news about how just fake everything here is in Washington, D.C. Kamala Harris, our vice president, recently produced a YouTube original series about the space program. As vice president, she actually is the head of the American space program. It's a carryover from the LBJ days under John F. Kennedy. And in that video, you're going to notice some children. The only thing you can really notice just from the video itself is, good Lord, as a politician, I just will never understand what's going on there.

It's brutal. First watch it, and then we're going to tell you the important news on the other side about what you're seeing. I just love the idea of exploring the unknown. And then there's other things that we just haven't figured out or discovered yet. To think about so much that's out there that we still have to learn. Like, I love that. I love that.

And so I'm very excited about the Space Council. We're gonna learn so much as we increasingly I think are curious and interested in the potential for the discoveries and the work we can do in space. So that's one of the things I'm most excited about. But the other, you guys are gonna see, you're gonna literally see the craters on the moon with your own eyes. Oh my goodness. With your own eyes, I'm telling you, it is going to be unbelievable. So those kids who were saying, wow, yeah, first of all, poor children. It turns out, though, a deep investigation from the Washington Examiner, let's put this up there on the screen,

that those children were actually child actors. though, a deep investigation from the Washington Examiner, let's put this up there on the screen, that those children were actually child actors. And this was all sparked because Trevor Bernardino, he was an actor, 13-year-old from Carmel, California, he was asked to submit a monologue discussing something he's passionate about and three questions for a world leader. He then interviewed with a production director, and then his agent was like, hey, you booked it. And he didn't learn until later that he would be meeting with Kamala Harris. He was joined by several others. I actually realized I shouldn't read all their names, but anyway, it's been confirmed. All of the children, the multiracial children in that video were child actors. All five of them, according to the father of one of the actors.

All of them, the one that I mentioned working in Los Angeles. And this was billed as a YouTube original called Get Curious with Kamala Harris. I mean, you couldn't find, I mean. These kids seem adorable and lovely and sweet. No knockoff kids. Nothing about the kids. Just get some real kids. But you could just get some kids who actually are like interested in space and would be excited to meet the vice president.

Listen, I can't stand Kamala Harris. And if I was a kid and I got to meet the vice president and talk about space, it would have been awesome. Of course. So look. I don't. Look. I don't know exactly what to say.

I think the thing to say about it. It's just very revealing. Right? It is very revealing. There are a couple other very revealing pieces on this deep dive that the Washington Examiner did. One is, I like this line. I am so, so, so excited this project is out, wrote Emily Keller, a YouTube executive overseeing Progressive Civics Content Partnerships, who, according to her LinkedIn, was previously the Democratic National Committee's social media director, which also tells you something about, you know, the pipeline from politics into

corporate executive roles and that whole symbiotic relationship, which exists, you know, both with Democrats more so actually at this point than Republicans, because Trump sort of made some of his people rather unemployable. So there's that. Then they also point out one of Harris's new advisors, Lorraine Volz, has a portfolio including crisis management and marketing and rebranding. I think the White House and Democrats certainly talk about this in this town. They realize they have a problem with Kamala Harris. Regardless of, you know, whether they like her or don't like her or whatever, they realize she is not very good at being a politician. She's not well-liked.

This was all obviously utterly predictable given that she dramatically failed in her presidential primary bid. Like you had a real time test of whether there was there was an excitement and an organic appetite for Kamala Harris to be the next in line. And they chose to ignore that. For what reason? I really couldn't tell you. I think, you know, I think I think Clyburn put a lot of pressure on Biden after he was so instrumental. You know, I think certain I still think they were kind of looking at Amy Klobuchar because remember Biden was saying like, I'm going to make a black woman a Supreme Court justice. That was kind of the signal of like, but I'm going to pick like a white lady for vice president.

And then when George Floyd happened and Amy Klobuchar was involved, that took that off the table. So confluence of events leads you to Kamala Harris as vice president. And it hasn't gone very well. I mean, they've given her some very challenging assignments in terms of, hey, why don't you handle the immigration and border enforcement? Put that in your portfolio.

They're clearly trying to, with this, you know, maybe rehab her image a little bit, make her a little more relatable. It's a big swing and a miss. And the real point that you alluded to is just how fake everything in Washington is. It actually reminded me of that story about how the Zoom bookshelves behind people- Oh, that's right. Were being artificially constructed. Right. They were cultivated by, you could hire a company to cultivate the right books on your bookshelf. That just says everything about DC. Yeah, exactly. They would never actually read any of those books.

Also, update on the video itself. Oh boy. It has 400,000 views. Not bad. 2,500 upvotes. 21,000 downvotes. And comments have been turned off for the video. So, not so good in terms of its reception.

Is that representative? No. Also, we have a poll. We've been promising you more polls from the Breaking Points audience. This is actually revealing, though. Let's put this up there on the screen. Relatively the same amount of one-day votes. Right now it stands around 64,000.

And, yes, that number holds with 90-something percent of you saying no, I don't approve of Vice President Kamala Harris. Two percent of you say yes. Eight percent of you saying no, I don't approve of Vice President Kamala Harris. 2% of you say yes. 8% of you say unsure. And I'll remind that— What were the Biden numbers? He did a little better. Whenever it came to the Biden numbers, he had a 78% disapproval. So obviously the vast majority there still saying that they don't.

But, I mean, much more of you, I mean many many thousands more saying that at least some did approve of Joe Biden, not many saying that you do for Kamala Harris. And that tells you the whole story. Yeah, they're in trouble. I mean, there's even speculation that they'll try to push somebody else into that slot, not necessarily the vice presidential slot, but if Joe Biden doesn't run this time or if he doesn't, or whether it's the next time up when, of course, he couldn't serve a third term and plus he'd be extraordinarily old, that they may not ultimately end up going with Kamala because just the writing on the wall is way too clear. Absolutely.

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