Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 106 : Veronica Gear-Hun
Episode Date: February 25, 2021It's alright 'cause I'm saved by the bell...
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shut up building
you don't understand
the young people
we like to get high
and date rape each other
oh you're wacky kids
yeah
it really was
the voice of a generation
you know
and Screece comes in
they've got our DNA
Zach what are we got to do
shut up Screech you dork
yeah
so yeah
we were talking about
Veronica Gehrin
we were like
let's talk about Dustin Diamond
up top
because they're very similar people
did a lot to tackle Irish organized crime
in their own way
in their own way
so by talk you know what
before we talk about Veronica Gehran let's do a little bit of advice
so I've got some advice here
and I want to get your opinion on this okay
Dr. Cadden
just before we go straight into like all the murder
and like all the women getting shot
and all that's a bit of levity first
yes yes so
my husband always wants me to wear a bra
while their stepson is around.
Okay.
I accidentally revealed a nipple,
just a nipple,
while bending over in a robe,
and ever since I think my husband is jealous.
Of the stepson?
Yeah,
because he's been watching all those porn videos,
so he sees what happens
when he leaves the room.
Yeah.
It's funny, he's jealous, like,
I have large-ish breasts,
boobs.
Large-ish.
Yeah, I want to be comfortable
in my own home.
Of course.
Is there a happy medium
in comfort,
not hurting my husband's feelings.
But she doesn't want to wear her bra, is that it?
She wants to be comfortable at home.
It's not like she's walking around the shops with them jiggling around, you know?
Yeah, I mean, free the nipple, that's what I say.
I don't know, whatever, yeah.
Look, put on some clothes, you smelly whore.
No, that's problematic and regressive.
No, that's what the husband said.
Yes, that's what he said.
You were doing a character there.
Yes, I was doing a character.
Oh, I love that.
The old get-out.
I was doing a character
and it's always a lie
I dressed as Joseph
Gerbils in character
so what is it just a case
of like you drop that
drop that husband fuck the stepson
and teach him a lesson
yeah yeah yeah I think it's like
they should have like a competition
and whoever can make the mom come
first is the new alpha
yeah so they have like a contest
now I've seen porn where that literally
happens yeah that's that's how
adults solve their problems
in the real world? I've also seen porn
and I assume this is what actually happens
and if I have the family I'd be like
we have to try it is like
the step siblings be arguing a lot
and then the weirdly ripped dad
would be like
I don't know what to do with these kids
I can't handle you you're always fighting
and touching each other and giggling
and the mother who has very large
fake breasts for some reason
is always like you know what we'll do
I read about this new therapy
we'll all get naked
and that will help us
connect spiritually
okay all right
and that seems to work for them
it always has a happy end
right right right
so it's like it's kind of like
puppet therapy you know
you put the puppet on your hand
and then you act out
fisting your own mother
yeah okay that's good
I like that
I can only assume it works
because I've watched Pornhub
and that's warped my mind
it sounds like a good video
don't know. Please
I'll send it to you. Send it to me.
You know what? I want to send it to you. I'll put it on a DVD.
I'll act it out for you.
Yeah. Get those ugly, ugly porn stars away. Just me.
To go back to your question, the advice, I guess just be more conscious of not flashing your
nipples at your steps on. And, you know, whenever it's just you alone in the house,
feel free to strut around nude.
Okay, what? Now, didn't say what age the steps on is, which is a big.
you know. Okay.
Because what if I'm walking around
in my robe with me cock out?
Yeah, yeah. And
your stepson tries to rape you?
Yeah, well if my stepson gets too horny.
This is the problem I have.
Okay. So you have to find a balance.
Yeah. I think drop the husband, lady.
Yeah, get that stepson.
That's my advice for all these.
Drop the husband, bitch. You don't need him.
Bang the stepson. Who cares if he's legal or not? It don't matter.
Right. Yeah.
Next question.
Yeah.
My husband is an amateur magician.
Okay
Oh wow
Drop the husband
Yeah
Straight away
His dream
Is to open up
A magic teamed restaurant
Oh wow
That's awful
No listen to this
Okay
I have to pitch this to you now
The place would be full of
magical props
To entertain customers
Yes
Okay so for instance
Yeah
You a magician
Can bring a girl
To the place
Okay
Yeah yeah yeah
And she'll think she's getting
Normal meal
Right
They'll be full of, like, fake chairs and, like, fake knives.
Okay.
You know, just to give her a good fright, which you love.
Yeah.
Now, he says it's his dream, and he wants to take our savings.
Yeah.
And put it into...
Open the restaurant.
Open this magic restaurant.
Okay, yeah.
Not, now, I can't stress this enough.
This isn't the case of, like, you're eating food, and there's a guy on stage doing magic.
Okay.
It's not that.
Right.
That would be lame.
Oh.
This is the tables made out of cheese.
It's interactive.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like the Faulty Towers Live show.
No, I'm not familiar.
If you're like me and you've gone.
Literally nobody apart from you knows what that is.
But okay.
It's, oh, it's fun.
It's like they act out an episode.
Yeah.
In while you're having dinner.
Yeah.
So you're eating your chicken.
There's a guy over there whacking an immigrant.
Nice.
Yeah, beating an immigrant with a stick.
And then Russell Brown called so up.
Oh, fuck.
your grand also.
Yeah.
It's my little cocky walk.
So back to this.
Okay. So this guy wants to open
a magic restaurant. Yeah.
He wants to put his money in it. He's like, look,
I've, we've supported your dream.
You had kids. I've done
everything you want to do. This is my
thing. Yeah. Okay. We're going
to do it. Right. End of.
Well, I mean, it really, it's like,
essentially what she's asking there is
do I let my husband, uh,
blow all of our life savings
and force us into bankruptcy
and possibly homelessness
or do I just keep stum
do I just keep smiling
like my whole life
where he does a trick and have to pretend
I'm like oh that's good
imagine she's like I'm sorry
we can't I can't be with you
so you have to decide it's either me
or the restaurant he goes to the restaurant
and it becomes fucking huge
he becomes a millionaire
there's like a new reality show
Gordon Ramsey's Magic Kitchen
you call out a rabbit in a hat
you fucking idiot
you worthless scum
fuck you
I love the idea of like
he's like an amateur one as well
it's not like he's professional
so he's amateur
but like she leaves him
he's like I'm going to end it
and he cuts himself in half
yeah
it doesn't seem like a good idea
even like fucking
Chris Angel
would have difficulty
getting this working
even if Penn and Teller
tried to open this
it probably would flop
you know i mean but how big is magic i mean there are magic enthusiasts in the world
well a magic restaurant this isn't a thing that we know about you know it's not like like oh yeah
yeah and again i cannot stress stress i know this is stressify i cannot stressify yeah yeah
you're getting all intellectual eyes so it's not like oh they're doing magic over there i have a
nice meal this is like you walk in and you see coffee in a cup yeah and you pick it up it's actually
hard right yeah it's like oh i'd be
been tricked.
I've been bamboozled.
So you can't even enjoy your fucking meal.
Like everything's like, I'll tell you what they'd probably do.
They were like, here's your chicken.
They'd like lift it up.
It's a live chicken.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, cool, but like I paid for a meal.
Oh, don't be shit crack.
Come on.
Enjoy the whimsy of it all.
Yeah, no, I don't know.
Look, I could be wrong, but I don't think that's a good investment.
I think this woman is right to, you know, raise some
concerns about it and
have any concern at all will be
like even if she's just like
I don't know that's like big
understatement yeah he's taking the life
savings here yeah he's like you know the kids
college funds don't need it
we'll use magic yeah
I know Billy's got leukemia
but I'll be able to ala-cazam
it away and he'll be all better
he doesn't need chemo
he needs primo
meals at low low
prices yeah
Yeah, so those are two questions.
Now, do you want to do one more?
You want to go to Veronica Gehr.
Go one more, the trifecta.
Yes, yes.
I hope you save the best for last.
They always say rule of trees, okay?
Now, the best for last is a very kind of like, it's up to you now.
Yeah.
So I have a few questions here.
Let me see which one I will like.
Now, I don't want to get anything too sexist.
Okay.
A lot of these, oh no, a lot of these are.
You want to save that out for Veronica Gehran.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, like, you know what, I think we can.
Get a little bit sexist.
Why not?
If you can imagine such a thing, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they'll be giving out about us on Twitter.
Finally.
Oh, no, here's a kind of simple one, okay?
My daughter told me my skin looks nice.
Okay.
I'm white.
Okay.
Okay.
Should I be concerned?
What the fuck is race got to do with your skin looks nice?
She's white.
Is the daughter also white?
Yeah.
Well, then what's the...
so like you shouldn't like white people's skin is that her this must be the guardian this is uh this is slate
slate yeah whatever dumb dumb irrelevant questioning okay here's a better one then okay yeah my daughter
better said i like your skin i want to wear it give me your skin that'd be awesome like yeah
that'd be like that's magic i don't want to stifle her creativity but should i let her skin
me alive and wear my flesh
on her face
also I'm white
so is it problematic
yeah
okay here's a better one then
my daughter is very developed
oh end of question
he's just bragging
he just writes to every
magazine he could find
ta-da okay
she's 13 and likes to wear
revealing clothes
and she likes to post
it on Instagram a lot
yes
How do I tell her to stop without slut shaming her?
Now, there's a lot of variables in this.
This is a tricky one.
This is a tricky one.
It's a case-by-case thing as well.
This could be like a Ned Flanders type being like, oh, her ankles.
Or it could be like a fucking guy being like,
do you have to wear three strap-ons?
Yeah, plus she's 13, she's a child.
I guess, you know, without,
obviously tackle it in a way like look you're very young and i just be concerned that there's
creepy predators out there pervin on you in instagram but also take the angle of you're 13 i'm
your father when you're under my roof you live by my rules and i'm sorry i don't want to slut
shame you but i i'm uncomfortable with this or whatever because she's still a child you know
she's a child so i think no is that like a regressive me being like are people like oh you sex is
big or whatever.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, let's just say to...
She is a child living under his roof.
Let's just make it more specific, okay?
She's wearing like a little cut top.
Yeah.
It's a little bit, wasn't designed for 13 year olds.
Right.
I'll say that.
And she's like, cut her shorts a bit, you know.
She's like all three in your clothes to make a sexier, okay?
Well, it's not like, it's not like crazy.
Like she's like dressed like a geisha or anything like that.
Which is the sluggiest thing.
That's the sexiest outfit you can think of.
Yeah, I couldn't think.
It's not like she's dressed like, I don't know, Robin.
Right, okay.
Well, what do you think?
Personally, I'd say he has a right to tell her how to behave when he's living under her roof.
Not in a regressive, you know, cover-up, you-ho type way.
I don't mean it like that.
Obviously, I'm not going at it like that.
Ah, whatever.
Maybe that's how it's coming across.
Dress up like a geisha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Put on the makeup or get out.
I don't know. What do you think?
I think, remember eight simple rules?
Boy, do I.
John Ritter.
That end of story.
Tell her to dress up and then dive at heart attack.
And then David Spade will come and live at your house.
No, no.
It's like, Uncle CJ, is these clothes to revealing?
Oh, not at all, my dear.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I think I'd be kind of a cunty dad.
But I'd be like kind of honest.
Hey, you don't like it?
And it probably isn't fair.
But guess what?
You're in the tool house now.
You're in the tools.
Oh, welcome to my house.
The tool shed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We live in the tool shed because I lost all my money in a podcast-teemed restaurant.
Wow.
I bet you we could do that.
A podcast.
People like, yeah, we like do live episodes in a restaurant while people eat.
No, I taught him, no, I'd be teams.
Like, on the menu, there's like a Joe Rogan section where you can get like elk.
And then like...
And DMT for dessert.
Yeah, and then like the Mark Maranting just be like, what, antidepressants?
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Who else?
Oh, you have Burke Reuter cocktails.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then who else is the pod?
Chappo Trap House, um, government cheese.
you wanted socialism you got it now eat your cheese you have to eat rats now
like venezuela and you pay for your meal with food stamps yeah yeah very yeah very good
political stuff thank you uh all other podcast um i can't think of any podcasts now
um comtown where it's just jiz yeah i don't know jiz uh i can't because i listen to a lot
of um sports team podcast now what about the two johnny is what it's chicken fillet rolls
A chicken stuff with Tato.
Pints.
Yeah.
A full pint with glass and everything in a chicken.
Yeah.
Or It Gals, they just give you a knife because they want you to kill yourself.
Because they hate men with mental health problems.
Remember, we teamed up with them.
Now we're friends with them.
Whether they like or not.
Now we're best friends with them.
We're best bestie buddies.
What would they?
Persecrele.
Perceco.
I mean, that's the easiest thing to say.
Yeah, good one.
Yeah.
Let's end it there.
It's good to know when a riff is done.
Okay. Yeah, we can't get any more blood out of the stone.
Yeah. So that's so that's like, I would be like, hey, you don't like it, but guess what? It's not fair. And life isn't fair, honey.
Yeah. Now, cover them up because they make me sick. And they make everyone sick. I was talking to your principal. He said he's bulimic now because of you.
And you're giving your mother, she's flat as an ironboard. Look at her.
Oh, yeah, look at your mother. Yeah. We are tit out. Your mother, now she's a girl.
woman so you can walk around with her tits out all the time
whether we like it or not and we
don't because they're
just oh god
they're too nice they're too
bodacious what are we talking
I like how you said oh I don't want to get too
sexist here yeah
anyway what are we at we're 20 minutes then we talk
with Veronica Gehran we've opened the doors
now now we can have fun so Veronica Geeran
yeah now this all started because they released
a documentary in the BBC
about the Kinnahin
yes their ties to boxing
Daniel Kinnahen basically he runs
Allegedly
Well not allegedly
He runs that boxing
No
Whatever
Okay so he's associated with that boxing company
That has
I guess Tyson Fury
It'd be the biggest
Boxer
Yeah but I didn't realize how big there
I thought to have like a few
No they're like big time
And they've monopolized it
Basically they've got all the boxers
From other promoters
So Barry McGuigan
Yeah he's from Monaghan
Whoh Barry
Baza
Yeah he's from Clonis
And he's given
out. Daniel Canaan tuck
all my boxers. I can just
say, you know, I'm coming out
against him. Yeah. He's got
the old ra lads protecting him so he can say what he
wants. Yeah. It is
funny how like, again, allegedly
how the Kinnahins went from like
allegedly little lads on bike
selling heroin to like
offices in Dubai and like
negotiating with ESPN
prices and like
But like I mean it's boxing. It's been
it's always been corrupt and tied
up with organized crime.
How's this any different?
I love how unregulated is still.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Like, I mean, it's just, yeah,
like hundreds of millions of dollars
flowing through it every year.
I mean, it's just, yeah, whatever.
And what they can do is,
because they seem to be getting money
from other places, I won't say, where.
They don't need to get, like,
big commissions up front from boxers.
Yeah.
So they just be like, yeah,
basically like, you get like,
what was it, like 80% of the profit,
something like that would just take 20
because it's more like building the brand and shit.
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And to make even worse, Paul Meskilden got involved.
Yeah, what was the happen?
He shot Franca Gehrin.
Ballyhaughness.
Yeah, yeah.
So he just shoved a bunch of Denny's sausages in her pussy.
You sick, sick man.
That's not normal people behavior, Paul.
Oh, wow.
God, Cadden's on fire.
How could they hate us?
Anyway, so yeah.
So he was training in a gym and he was like,
that was owned by Daniel Kenahan.
Yeah, and he was like, sure, I didn't know, but.
Yeah, how would he know?
Oh, really?
I thought like, or would you?
I thought you kind of know.
If you're in the boxing world.
But he's not in the boxing world.
He was just working out, you know, keeping that bod tight.
That sick bod.
I suppose.
That sick, sweet bod, bod, keeping it tight.
That is essential work.
Oh, my God.
What's he doing over there, I wonder?
I wonder is he filming something.
Probably.
He won an Emmy.
He's big.
I wonder what he's working on now
I think he beat Hugh Jackman
In a fight
Just battered him
It's like yeah take that
Wolverine
Yeah you big musical cunt
Yeah yeah
No I think I think
Jackman was nominated
For those for those Emmys as well
And I don't think he got anything
I'm just gonna look up real quick
What the Mesco is doing
Okay
He studied in the Lear
De Lear
De Lear
The Lear
It's like an acting
Oh okay
Alright right
So
I'm not I'm not
cultured enough to know that shit
you wouldn't be allowed no
from the streets
they're all talking about it
and then you walk in
they'll
shh there he is
so his next two films
are the lost daughter
and then Carmen
let's see what the lost daughter's about
okay
with Maggie Jalenhall
is based in a book
nope
two of the things I hate
the most
literature and the Jillenhalls
the next film is called
Carmen it's a musical drama
oh see
Jackman would love it
and they'd like kick them in the curb
Well that's what you get
Get out of the way old man
It's time for the fresh blood
We saw his flaccid penis
I've never seen yours
Hugh Jackman
So until you rectify that
Good sir
There'll be no more acting jobs for you
Go on you Aussie, cunt
Make the effort
Let me see it
Let me see
Is your cock retractable
Like those aluminium claws
Yeah
So Mesco was in trouble
then he'd apologize
and we all moved on.
It was funny
on Twitter
people were like
Paul Meskla is done
hope you enjoyed your career
little man
because you
you are in the garbage
you're done
yeah
do you know me
like people really just
oh get off
and that's so much
like I'm gonna ruin them
yes
yes
we got him
we got him
I don't know why I hate him
but we got him
we got him
so yeah
Daniel Kenehanhan
and you know
they're tied up a box in
and what was that
little
He made his own movie.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
Was it, like, he made his own documentary.
He made a 15-minute short film called, like, Regency, The Truth.
The Search for Truth or something like that, yeah.
I think in the film, he said that they were all out to get him.
Like, it wasn't actually the Kinnahins who shot up that boxing thing with the Hodges.
It was actually the Gardee, and they were trying to frame the Kinnahs.
No, they were after the Daniel Kinnahin, okay, because they're trying to rig the election.
what election
the general election
yeah the general election yeah
yeah it was all part of the master
Leo's master
Leo was in the hotel
yeah he was in the hotel yeah
pumping lead in the motherfuckers
because he's that's why he loves
yeah yeah but yeah that's what
kinning him was saying in that
that he's like it's all part of the plan
I was looking for that I couldn't find it
yeah I think they took it down
probably yeah
and no one's bothered to like
you know put a prime wire
or like Amazon Prime
Okay, so this kind of reading about the
Kenanans got you, got your little
investigative prick hard
for some more dirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, you know what?
This case needs to be shook up.
Time to solve this mother.
Yeah, I got, I got a board,
I got a white board, and I got like bits of
things to stick in it.
Red twine, yeah.
And I got real into
the Irish crime world.
And you can't talk about Irish crime
without talking about Vic
what's it
whatever her name is
Veronica
Veronica
that bitch
yeah
that busy body
Veronica
I know I said
Victoria
Gehran
Veronica Gehran
Victoria Beckham
yeah
so Veronica Gehran
okay
yeah
they made a film
about her
they did
starring Kate
Planchett
yeah
and directed by
Joel Schumacher
Joel Schumacher
yeah
now
what you think of it
did you like that
film
I haven't seen it
in a while
but I remember
really liking it
when I saw it
like it
Like, I thought it was a really good, like, Irish drama and, like, because it's like, you know, it's a history lesson because I didn't really know the specifics of the case because, what was it, 96 that happened?
I think 96, yeah.
Yeah, see, I was a child, like, so I didn't really, really.
I was, yeah.
Lying about your age still, aren't you?
Yeah, I mean, I was, you know, only in my late 20s.
Like that Hollywood actress, he's like, oh, I'm 30 years young.
Who, Margot Robbie?
No, I'm just in general.
like that's a stereotype like they're all lying
you're proud of that bit are you
did that go well for you well you kind of ruined
it I ruined it yeah yeah well obviously
I was going to defend myself it was up to you
had you had commitment in the bit
you would have made it work but you did
it's crumbled I crumbled
you did like a house of cards
let's talk about Veronica Geeran let's do it so let's stop
talking about the lead up let's uh so
the film Veronica Gehrin okay
we start off and she's like
already she's awesome
she's got parking tickets
yeah she's speaking
eating. She plays by her own rules.
Yeah, yeah. She's Kate Blanchett and she does
a very good job. She is actually very good.
Like, how was, again, been a while
since I've seen it, how was the accent?
You know what? I didn't notice it at all, which is a good thing.
So that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah.
She did a very good job, then, if I didn't notice it.
And she's not overdue. And she's like,
oh, joys is, oh, bloody hell, I'm Veronica Gehrin.
Oh, I'm just a bloody Irish bird.
You know, I mean, it's all the crimes.
going on? So she's driving along
she's in court okay
because they're like you're driving
too hard solving too many crimes
she's like fuck you judge
you're a menace. Yeah and the judge is actually
reading one of articles
Oh yeah? Yeah he's like we're all aware of you
I've seen those pictures
of you on Instagram with your big
dits and you're only 13
cover up
so she's driving
back she beat the case
Right she's driving back
Was that a speeding case
speeding thing, yeah.
She drives out of court
speeding as well.
She's on the phone as well
onto her husband's like...
Smoking some crack.
Yeah, I got away with it.
I can get away with anything
because I'm a white woman.
I am a god.
Yeah.
I'll never die.
Yeah.
And then she stops at a red light.
Guy pulls up on a bike
pulls the trigger.
Skiddy, bap,
but two years earlier.
Oh, so we cut to black
and it's two years earlier.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Holy shit.
I'm not ready for this.
Yeah, that's a little trick of the trade.
How do you do that?
how could you be in the present
but then go back to the past
but they already shot her
how could they use Kate Blanche anymore
she must have been dead
was it like a weekend at Bernie's
situation
weekend at Gereens
she's just like walking around
like with sunglasses on
oh John Gilligan
I'm going to get you
yeah so it's 1990s
heroin is the new big thing
it sure is
everyone's doing it
even 12 year olds you know
fucking an unhealthy amount of it
they're in the flats aren't they
she like goes into the flats and there's just
like young junkie kids
saying here I'll ride you for money
or I'll stab you with this AIDS needle
take your pick
yeah you're into some mad shit
Sophie's choice
you want me to cut off my own fingers and eat them
for your amusement
and it's fucking one of the love hate guys
in it's yeah Elmo
yeah Elmohs in it
Lawrence Kinahan I think his name is
ho ho any relation
well anyway in this Elmo is
proper, like, you know, he's been broken
down. He's like, he's like, you're
going to have sex in me if you want, but my
ass is so loose, it won't even
feel like it. You could put
your entire foot in my anal
cavity, and I wouldn't feel
a thing. Like, literally, in
it, there's like toddlers, like, playing with needles,
like going, whew, airplane,
in my mouth. Here comes
the airplane, chill,
chill.
And she's investigating, okay?
And then we see for a brief minute,
It's more like a cameo, Martin Cahill.
Oh, the general.
He shows up in it very quickly.
He's not in it that much because he gets knocked off later on.
He does.
He gets bumped off.
But he has a good little scene of him being like, yeah, I'm going to torture you.
I'm the general.
Going to cut off your arms and your legs.
Who is he talking to?
Just some guy who got tied up.
Oh, okay.
Or a suspected rat or a Protestant.
Yeah, one of those, okay?
Worse.
And then he cuts off their legs.
We see like the legs all cut off and shit.
Nice.
And we thought this in school, do I tell you?
What, the teacher put it on in school?
Yeah, yeah, when...
I think my history teacher played it for us as well in school.
See, I taught everyone did.
Yeah.
I was talking to some people who are like, they showed you that.
Secondary school?
Secondary school, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But here's the thing, they're all Dublin people
who come from better stock than us.
Plus, it's probably a bit more closer to home for them
because, like, it happened on their doorstep.
I suppose, you might have not shown it, yeah.
Whereas, like, in my school, it's like,
hey, or look at this, hey, the big fucking
Jack Eind's got the legs cut off
them. They're all doing the heroin
and reading newspapers like
pricks. I was like, are we
going to be learning anything today, Mrs.
Alamander? Get out, you, we
queer, you. Oh,
state section homophobia
is wrong. Yeah.
I did not have a good time. Good, good.
Let's have a round of applause for that.
He said it. He finally said it.
104 episodes.
it's
so Martin Cattle then gets whacked
yeah and we've seen that in the general
yes so he gets whacked and people are like
it was the RA but Veronica's
like no something to do with drugs
and a lot of people that are like
drugs in Ireland
you're crazy you've been watching too many
films love get your head out of the gutter
they're saying Scarface it's not
Star Wars
there's actually a scene of all the other journalists
and they all make fun of her
for thinking there's drugs
in Ireland? No, just for
what she does, like, oh, muck raker.
Be good at her job. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, she doesn't even do good grammar.
Wrong of puncture. She said dare.
Instead of they are.
They are, yeah.
Yeah, what a footh. No, there's a scene
they're all laughing at her like.
Wow, I don't remember that.
And thinking their head, she's like,
this is scummy paparazzal chasing after.
She's Perez Hilton in their eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's taking upskirts of Martin Cattle.
He covers a face, not the pussy.
Yeah, yeah.
So she's on the case, and then Colin Farrell's a little, like, cameo in it.
Remember this?
Yeah, I remember him popping up.
Is he like an informant?
No, he's nothing.
He's literally just a guy watching a football match.
He starts kind of hitting on her, though, doesn't it?
A little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she's walking, the whole thing in it, she's a big Manchester United
fan that's right yeah and uh she actually met erika cantona yeah yeah so she's walking back
from the pub and like i think they're all like well you leave the story alone veronica sure you're a big
fucking dose yeah yeah then she's walking back and um colin farrell's like the kind of not skinhead
but he kind of looks like a tough dublin lad okay yeah yeah he's like jesus he's like look at
football match you're a woman you probably wouldn't know anything about football would you yeah
you'd be fucking silly bitch and she's like i actually
met Eric Cantona, you know,
checkmate. And he's like, God, Jesus,
you've impressed me with your football knowledge.
You want to go back to me, skip.
But she's like, no thanks.
No, I have a wife and kids.
Oh, no, she's the wife.
Yeah, yeah.
But she calls the husband the wife.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, he's a stay-at-home dad.
Yeah, he's like washing a dish.
In 90s, Ireland, Jesus.
He didn't have a good time of it, I'll tell you that.
He's washing the dish.
He's probably the one that organized the hit on Veronica Gairn.
It's like, I can't live like this anymore.
All the lads down the pub make fun of me.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, it's a little cameo.
It's nice to see Colin Farrell in a little cameo.
Yeah.
Always good to see Farrell.
I like Colin Farrell.
Very much.
I actually started watching the Alexander film.
Oh, that's not a good of...
It's like three and a half hours long.
Is that Ridley Scott as well?
No, it's Oliver Stone.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's a lot of history.
Yeah.
And a lot of implied gay stuff.
Oh.
Which isn't enough for me, my friend.
Implication.
Boo.
I don't want to see Colin Farrell flirt with Jared Leto.
I want to see penetration.
Of course.
In a skip.
Yeah, you want to see the penguin fuck the joker.
See what I did there?
Oh, oh, oh.
Cadden is ten steps ahead.
So, she's investigating and she's kind of got an informant.
Right.
A guy who looks like, I remember this guy, mustache and leather jacket,
oh, the smoking fags.
I think he's got a name like.
John Joe
Billy Bob
Something like the gent
Or something like that
They've all got names
By the way
She came up with all those names
Oh really
Yeah she was
She came up with the general
The monk
The hut
Not the hutch
Because his last name
Is hudge
But like all those nicknames
She came up with that
The bypassed the libel stuff
Oh that's good
That's good
Very creative
Very do
Yeah
So she's got an insider
Right
But the insider
The insider is actually
Working with
John Gilligan
John Gilligan
Yeah
And he's kind of like, tell her this.
Ah, right, yes.
Mess with her noggin a bit, you know.
Tell her the Ra killed her.
Okay.
Killed her.
Martin Tahoe.
Yeah, yeah.
So they won't know that it's actually a drugs thing.
Okay.
But Veronica just doesn't.
And like even fucking the guy, like the gent, whoever's name is like, here, take some money.
Would you just shut up?
But she's like, I'm not going to take money because I'm a journalist.
Yes.
I've got ethics and ting.
Yeah.
Like, why are you talking like that?
Because I'm a journalist.
Martin Cahill, big up yourself.
And she doesn't take no for an answer.
Even when there's like bullet-shaped holes in the windows.
Okay.
She's still like, no, no.
And then later on the-
Just the coincidence.
Yeah, then later on the shooter in the leg.
She's like, no, coincidence.
They probably thought of someone else.
It's by time of the month.
That's what it is.
I don't have a bullet hole in my leg.
I'm just having woman's problems.
Yeah, she's wearing stockings when you get shot.
Remember this?
Uh, no.
Oh, well, go back and watch that and that alone, my friend.
That's all I mean.
The director might have been gay, but he knew.
He knew what the lads wanted.
Yeah.
Put the nipples on Clooney, what the lads want.
Yes.
Yeah, she gets shot on the leg.
She's like, it's not a big deal, don't me?
The husband, no, sorry, the gay husband.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, no, they're shooting you in the leg.
I feel scared.
Just like, man up, you fucking, little fucking swine.
Don't make me put on the big.
strap on tonight
as punishment.
So
she can
this is the scene
you like
okay
she's like
I'm going to
investigate more
don't say
this is the
scene that I like
don't do
we all know I'm joking
yeah sure
yeah
anyway go on
okay so she goes
to
I do happen
to like this scene
yeah
but it's a very good
scene
it's shocking
it's shocking
it's shocking
you can like
Schindler's this
that doesn't mean
you support it
but it also doesn't mean
you can't support it
let's make that clarification
because art is subjective
okay
I don't know what I'm talking about
yeah
so he he
she goes to meet
John Gilligan's like
can I ask you some questions
and his gaff
yeah with his wife
who the wife is also
very much knows but the crime
of course
she's not like a Caramello
Anthony
Carmella
Carmelma soprano
yeah she was like
oh the Jewels
and the gold. I don't know, don't
care. She knows, she's like, yeah.
The wife's proper, like, get her.
Get her. Yeah, let me, I'll hold her
for you. Let me at her. Let me
at it. She's like scrappy dude.
Yeah, yeah. So like...
So she goes up to John Gilligan's gaff.
It's like, I can I ask you some questions
please? And John Gilligan
just goes, conch
and punches her. Multiple times.
And every time he hits her, he says,
he just keeps saying the word conch over
and over and punching her. And he
beats the living shit out of it is animalistic it's very it's very unsettling like the first time
you see it it really like it catches you by surprise you're like holy shit yeah and it's very
graphic and raw and horrible and the kind of like the the funny thing is in the way not like
ha ha funny more like makes you think yeah is that before this we've seen the john gillikins trying
to be like a gentleman in the way trying to be like a fancy man where he has the fancy horses
and shit yeah and he's like hanging out with people like oh i must say mr
he's trying to be legitimate
like he's trying to kind of break into the world
like horse racing and legitimate business
and whatnot yeah yeah
yeah it's like there's a bit in it where like
he's with these people because he actually had
at one stage the largest horse
place
in the world
it was fucking huge
big old horse
full of drugs
uh no
what would you call like a horse
horse horse um like a stable
a horse stable horse place
okay horse
hotel. He had the biggest
horse hotel in the world.
The magic horse factory, okay?
Yeah, yeah. So he had a big horse stable.
Yeah.
Full of horses, like millions of
euros spent on horses.
Right, right, right. It was one of the biggest in Europe.
Right. So he had all these fans of people like,
ooh, a lovely horse. What kind of horse is that?
He'd be like, oh, yes, it's a very good horse I made
from my legitimate businesses. I must, oh, let me take a phone call.
The fucking ghee bag.
Tell her, tell her, kid.
kill them out
yeah they have to hang up
like ah just business
legitimate business
I must say
I didn't know you worked
in finance
they all have a giggle
yeah
then uh
fucking Rodney Dangerfield shows up
we're all gonna get laid
so yeah
when he beat her
is like oh fuck
he means business
and she just like drive away
all fucking
she's all shock
oh as you would be
like yeah
yeah
and you know what happens
what
she doesn't give up
yes
you would
I would
straight away.
I think any human being would.
Yeah, yeah.
I think she's the one person in the world.
After being shot and beaten and threatened.
Yeah, I would.
They're threatening the kids and everything, like.
And she's like, no, the stories,
working for the sun is more important.
Yeah.
And she doesn't learn.
She doesn't learn her lesson.
Yeah.
Oh, it wasn't the gent earlier.
It was the trainer.
That was the name of the guy who looks like matches Malone.
Okay.
Okay.
So they try to pay her off again.
she won't listen
she won't show her blade
and yap
they go to court
and Gilligan goes free
of course
of course
because you know
he's a very important
he's got a lot of horses
he's got a lot of horses
he gave the judge
three horse
he gave everyone in the jury
three horses
yeah
and then next she gets killed
she gets wasted
like GTA
uh yeah
so she's right
she gets shot
shot in the head
yeah
now because she's a
actual human
because the other people
that were being
effect of a working class Dublin people.
So, yeah.
So human scumns, really.
But now she's an actual human being.
She owned a house.
Oh, wow.
She didn't rent.
She owned it.
She owned a house.
She had a mortgage and a Vauxhall Astra
that she had almost paid off.
So this is an actual human being.
We're talking about books.
So because she got killed, people were like,
oh, this is a problem now.
Yes.
And then lots of cops actually like, actually like,
Jay's, you better like putting the effort, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
They got off their arms.
are so they invented cab the criminal assets bureau i was just about saying for good work james
thank you the criminal assets bureau and that kind of fucked up a lot of people apart from the real big wigs
but all like smaller people yeah that so essentially criminal assets bureau are if you can't prove
that your finances come from legitimate businesses they the guards of the right to repossess all
like your your property your vehicles all of it they can take it all right yeah and we saw that
love hate, remember that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The student becomes the master
and I don't have a notebook.
Ha ha ha, fuck you.
Yeah, I have to be like, I'm cute,
cab, yeah, yeah, yeah, funny.
It's that taxi, is it?
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so they brought that in,
and it's funny in the film
they really make it look like
and things change forever.
Yeah, and Ireland became a paradise then.
I think they literally say something like,
and that was the end of drug dealing
in Ireland forever.
But what about, shut up!
Yeah, okay.
You can never buy another drug.
They even stop.
legal ones. You can't even get
Panadol. If you have a headache,
you have to just hit your head
against the wall till you knock yourself out.
Cab, if they catch you with a fucking
Cal Paul, you're done.
Yeah, so...
But in reality, a lot of the big guys
were not affected by this. No, no, they just
fucked off over to Spain.
Espadiole. John Gilligan
actually, he got arrested recently.
He's still alive. He's 70-something
and he's still fucking going and they raided
his house, I think in 2020. Yeah.
And it was, like, still, for a 70-year-old man,
still fucking, fucking drugs and guns in his fucking bedroom.
Nice.
Not like, oh, we keep it stashed somewhere else.
It's like under the flowboards, you've got fucking MK 16s or...
AK-16.
AK-47.
He's got all the guns.
Okay.
Glockes.
Glox.
Um...
Glocks and Cox.
In the bedroom, baby.
He's got guns he wouldn't even have heard about.
Special CIA Star Wars guns.
He's got a scozy was and a...
flippity flupe very very lethal weapons yeah so he's he's still at it yeah but i bet he's raging now
i think like you know look at what the kins kins have done oh well that's true yeah yeah yeah yeah
what is like does he have much power is he like kind of he's you know i don't i don't i don't
i think a lot of older guys are like jit times the times are changing yeah yeah they probably
look at the same way like that we look at ticot like oh sure i wouldn't even figure it out
I'd probably ruin it if I tried
They're still on eye laughs
You know
I laughs is gonna be huge
Yeah so
It's like Bitcoin
People laughed at
Everyone who bought Bitcoin back in the day
But who's laughing now
Yeah I think fucking Gilligan was real big
In the game stop
Hold the line
Yeah he was like
I gotta get those stonks
Stonks from my humans
I like it
So
Frankie
Did you enjoy the film?
Yeah, I would recommend watching it.
Yeah.
Also, the kind of thing that wasn't, well, it wasn't mentioned in the film, we only found out later.
The brother.
Who's brother?
Veronica Gerean's brother.
Oh?
Had 901 images of child pornography.
Ah.
And 146 video clips.
So he was a journalist too then?
Yes, yes.
Investigating.
Yeah, it just as important.
Okay.
So her brother was an answer.
They left that out of the film.
Yeah, yeah.
Funny if he was like, I'm investigating just in case.
Just in case one of those horses he owned was underaged.
There was like, you know that Trojan horse?
There was like full of kids in the horse hiding.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah, so the brother was sentenced.
What do you think about that now?
That's bad, Brian.
I don't think you should have child pornography.
I'm going to round of applause again, guys.
God, Cairns gotten very woke, cousiny.
You shouldn't own childbork.
God, I don't even know you anymore.
And I respect you.
But it's tearing me apart to see you.
Deep down, deep down, I'm disgusted by this.
Sell out.
I have to like try and unwalky by showing you certain statistics.
You know, I know all the statistics, my friend.
Let them tattoo in your back, like prison break.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, he was found with, like, that's a lot of him.
images.
It is, yeah.
Of anything.
Even if you had that many images of like a daffodils.
Daffodils, you'd be like, oh, that's a bit weird, isn't it?
Yeah, you're a real daffodil person.
Yeah, yeah.
The child porn is one thing, but they're daffodils.
Yeah.
No.
Oh, look, they're only buds, you sick, fuck.
They haven't blossomed.
Yeah, so he got a suspended sentence because the judge was like, you're basically a public figure.
Right.
And you have no previous convictions.
Okay.
And this is going to ruin your life in a way.
so it went very easy on him
very easy that's you know what that is there
the Dublin class
okay yeah
that's not a thing
oh isn't no no what are you talking
in Carlis we always talking about that
the Dublin class
the Dublin society
they all we all work together
they've got a Tesco
and a little and a done stores
all beside each other
it's mental
they have
Sodom and Gomorra
they have future technology
we don't know about
But yeah, so it seems like, well, like, probably,
well, no, the Dublin media class.
Well, yeah, actually, what was her upbringing?
Does she kind of come from, like, a well-to-do family?
Not, like, really well-to-do?
But, like, decent.
Yeah, decent, yeah, yeah.
Educated.
She never, like, fell on a dead fox.
Okay.
You know?
And then wanked to it.
Yeah.
Very, very middle class, I think, upbringing, yeah.
And they did a big old house in the film.
She was making good money off to journalism.
Yeah, yeah.
She got a very fancy,
caught a grave.
I'd recommend
checking out her grave.
Okay, where is it?
Should we go right now?
Yeah, let's go,
Vrum, vrum.
Look, I'm in my car.
Chew, chew.
Road trip.
But it's got a very nice picture
of her, it's very big grave,
and it's got a full article.
Okay.
Of her debt.
It's self-indulgent.
Well, you know,
give her, let her have one little bit
of self-indulgence.
She got shot in the fucking head, James.
Yeah, yeah.
You probably loved that, didn't you?
well i you know i'll not say who but uh my family some of my family went to see that film in
the cinema older relatives and uh female is my old one basically and she was like here look
if you go around fucking mouthing off like that what do you expect so yeah
your mother's going to get cancelled she'll get fired from her job
i mean like there's it kind of like when does it start to become like maybe come out from
different angle.
What do you mean?
I don't want to
mansplain to a
dead woman here
but like
when they're
threatening stuff like
that maybe like
I don't say like
oh stop
leave him alone
lay Britney alone
yeah
don't be like that
hashtag free Gilligan
free John Gilligan
but it's like
maybe like
maybe like
be like I'm going to
come at this
from different angle
I mean you do
okay
because she was her big thing
was like
on the face of this
yeah
I'm not afraid
I'm not even wearing
a bulletproof jacket
or nothing
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, and she did give that very famous interview as like,
because if I am too afraid to go after them,
that means they win, and they're not going to win.
Now, yeah, okay, to an extent that is very admirable,
you know, shows a lot of journalistic integrity,
and it's very brave, but it's also very foolish,
putting her life at risk, but also her family's life at risk,
and you do kind of have to...
Yeah, what about the brother?
They could have killed the poor old brother.
Yeah, yeah.
He wouldn't even have a chance.
Think about altering history there.
He wouldn't have a chance to download all of child porn.
That's tragic now, yeah.
That's terrifying even thinking about it.
It's like when you think about what happens if they didn't invent penicillin.
Yeah.
Very different place, my friend.
What do you think?
Do you think she was a bit kind of foolish?
Hey, you know what?
Maybe the gangsters are foolish, okay?
Because they think they killed her.
Instead, they made her immortal.
Ah.
Because her memory will never do.
died like the Olympic
Flame. Yeah. Kate Blanchett
played her. All it could get for Gilligan
was Jared McSorley. Don't
get me wrong. Very talented actor, but
come on. Kate Blanchett, that's
A. Lister. If they're only like, we need to
appeal to the Americans more. Who would be
the good American to play?
Gilligan. Yeah. Well, I mean...
Who could you picture going, cunt?
Tom Hanks.
Who would have been good? You know, De Niro
would have done a good John Gillian.
De Nero is too.
De Niro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
I also would be like,
I don't think he could do
like a convincing
like Dublin.
No, probably not.
Dublin accent.
Who would be good then?
Eddie Murphy.
And he plays all the characters.
Yes.
Like Norbitt.
Yeah.
And like trading places.
At the end he gets,
like,
like one of the guys
gets raped by a gorilla.
Nice.
Remember that?
I actually never seen trading places.
Oh, have you know?
No.
I watched it because of the,
They mentioned it a lot during the GameStop thing.
Okay.
Because it's about, like, in-fighter trading and stuff like that, yeah, yeah.
So I watched it.
It's funny at the start, and this, I'm going to sound very woke here, okay?
Okay.
It's funny, it's kind of subtle at the start.
Right, right, right, right.
And it gets a little bit too silly because they have a plan.
So basically, you know the plot of it.
It's like rich guys try to fuck over.
Yeah, they make Dan Aykroyd poor.
Dan Aykroyd was really rich, and they make him poor.
And Eddie Murphy was a homeless guy, and they make him rich, right?
And it's very subtle, not like completely subtle, but it feels very realistic.
Right.
And the rich white guys drop the N-words.
A lot?
Not a lot, but they drop at a very pivotal moment.
Not very realistic at all, then.
They drop at a pivotal moment, and it feels very real.
They don't play off like a joke.
It's meant to be like a very like, oh.
Insulting, like, yeah.
Yeah, like, oh, God, these guys are like worse than Utah.
Yeah.
And but then the big plan to like fuck them over involves like them all.
dressing up and doing silly voices
where Eddie Murphy plays
like a man from like the Congo
is like good evening I am from
Congo I cannot talk English
proper okay and then like
the girl with the what's her name
Jimmy Lee Curtis Jimmy Lee Curtis
will you see her bosoms you do and then
she's like I am Swedish lady
where my meatballs
yeah well if the rumors
are true they're in your pants
I'm Aphrodite and you think okay that's
that's all I can deal with this and then
fucking Akkroyd shows up full black face
and he's even more black than Eddie Murphy
he's like oh I'm even
blacker
nice I yeah he just sold it
for me this sounds like the cat and perfect
movie yeah no no sorry
he was doing more of a Jamaican
I man I am
a nuttenacride I am Jamaican
bobsled who you're gonna call
man yeah and it's like
do we and it goes on for like 10 minutes
right right and then the big joke
in it is that like one
the guys is, it's like a, one of the guys
dressed up like a gorilla
and then they lock him up in a zoo.
Right. And like, the zookeepers
were like, yeah, I didn't know we had an extra gorilla.
Oh, well, it looks like they're having sex
a lot. And he's like, he's like
raping the man. So a man
dresses a gorilla is getting raped by
an actual gorilla. Yeah, yeah. I tell you
the 80s, man, they knew comedy. And then later
on, the kind of, sorry?
Go on. It's Landis. It is John Landis.
Yeah, which is what that is. And then later on
there are like, uh, yeah,
Should we remove them?
It's like a month later.
Yeah.
Like, should we remove those two gorillas?
No, they're in love.
And like the guy in the mask is like kind of like like a little tear comes out.
Right, right.
And they don't actually explain why he doesn't go like, I'm a human being here.
I don't like being sodomized by this gorilla.
He's too polite.
He's like, I'll just be quiet.
Don't want to make a fuss.
So yeah, but it's a good film.
And Eddie Murphy's very good.
And it's not him just being like silly all the time.
He does a bit of serious acting in it.
And he's actually very good at doing
the switch from like the con man kind of gangster
to like, oh God, look at that riffraff over there.
They should get jobs.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Well, absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
I think it's, you kind of forget
how great Eddie Murphy was.
He really was fantastic.
Like, funny, I just watched the trailer for Coming to America too.
It's not a great example.
No, I know, but, well, no, coming to America.
fucking great. Oh no, that's what I meant. Coming to America
too, I'm talking. Come to America is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Coming to America two, I'm not
expecting the best, let's say. I don't want
to be a cunt. But, um, you know,
because yeah, obviously, like
the last 10 years,
probably more, 20 years, you know,
he's just churned out a lot of shit films.
But Dolomide was fucking, it was kind of like
a return to form. Yeah. You get to
see how, you remind you how good Eddie
can be, you know? He wasn't playing,
it wasn't a sequel to something he did
20 years ago or 30 years.
Jesus, 40 years?
A long time ago.
Late 80s, you're talking
mid to late 80s, yeah, but 35 years ago, wow.
He's playing a different character
who is kind of fat,
not completely, but a little bit chubby,
a little bit older, he's playing
what he can play.
I don't go like, hey, put on some crazy makeup
and do Norbert 2. The people
need it, especially with the Trump
administration. I wouldn't
say no to Norbert 2.
I think with Biden in charge
I think we're going to get Norvid too
That's Biden's first action
Oh yeah
So
Yeah Veronica Giron
That was Veronica Giron
Yeah we're nearly an hour
Yeah
It's a good film
Yeah
And it'd be interested to see
I think
Be honest I think
Actually sorry to interrupt
But just to go back to
Okay so you were talking about
Eddie Murphy and John Landis
You were kind of telling me an interesting thing
About Beverly Hills Cop 3
Oh actually I got it wrong
when I was talking before I got wrong
It was actually trading places
Oh it was trading places
Yeah they made it
So apparently this was right after the debt
Yeah what happened
No yeah
John Landis was making the Twilight Zone movie
And there was an accident
With a helicopter that chopped off some heads
So let me explain this to you
Let me lay it down to you
Yeah yeah yeah
So I got into this because I was looking up
Max Landis
Yes
And Max Landis is an awful
Off even if he wasn't a rapist
Bad filmmaker
Even just like he's a
the worst type of person
He's very hyper
He always talks about himself
Yes
He is that kind
He's like Tarantino
But without the talent
Yeah
Yeah yeah
Or he's like
Tarantino was like
Dialed up like an extra like
30%
And became even more narcissistic
Because Tarantino
Is quite insufferable
When he talks
It does make you go
Please just shut your fucking eyes
You know
At least Tarantino
We'll talk about
Japanese films
For like an hour
Yeah that's true
Yeah he's definitely
A fountain of knowledge
of phillomaking you know he's not going like me me i gonna he's not like because
landis lanness londis would just talk about like here's my is anyone to hear my pitch for
new james bond movie no well i'm going to talk about it anyway what if timid dalton teamed up
with daniel cage like from parallel universes and then they took on guess who roger moore yes
sounds pretty good let me lay out the entire plot you'd be like please leave please either rape me or leave me
Anything can be better than this.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he seems like a very abusive.
Okay.
But anyway, so I was looking into his dad, John Landis.
John Landis.
Now, John Landis, he did the trailer video.
He did lots of stuff, American Werewolf in London.
Like, he was kind of like one of the biggest filmmakers in the 80s.
Like, he was huge.
Now, the thing that kind of hurt him a little bit is he was filming, as you said, the Twilight Zone movie.
Yeah.
Now, what I kind of vaguely heard was there were filming.
it, an accident happened away, a helicopter,
two children and an actor, a grown actor, were killed.
Yes.
And that's all I knew.
And I was like, Jay's, that's a very sad thing to happen.
But it does happen, unfortunately.
There are accidents on set.
Especially in the 80s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably a little more lax about it, is why I thought.
I did some research.
It's almost like he was trying to make it happen.
Like, every single thing you could do wrong, he did.
Okay.
Like, for instance, he didn't get permits.
Okay.
He didn't pay them officially.
He paid him under the table.
The kids, I mean.
Oh, right, right, right.
He was like, just give me the kids.
They're meant to work a certain amount of hours officially.
He was just to the parents like, just fucking, here's a bit of money.
Okay, let me just take the kids and film nonstop.
Yeah.
Who cares if retired.
Yeah.
Okay.
He did that.
He didn't tell anyone.
So the scene in question was they're running across kind of like a wet, damp area.
It's meant to be Vietnam.
Okay, so there's a running through kind of like a mucky feel.
Yeah, Mucky Field, basically, and there's a helicopter over him,
and I think it was meant to, like, be real low.
Right, okay.
That was the scene they're intending.
Yes.
He didn't tell half the people there's going to be kids involved.
Okay.
He didn't tell the fire marshals were going to be kids involved.
Right.
Didn't tell.
He's filming at night as well.
Okay.
Over, like, the recommended time anyway of, like, kids actors.
So these kids are tired.
They're exhausted.
Yeah, yeah.
And also, I think the older actor was, like, in the 70s, something like that.
So he's no, okay, it's like, we need people.
run across a damfield let's get an old
man and tired children
and how young were these kids
like um like
six or seven oh yeah they were age six
and seven exactly yeah right right
and they were not
white which is a big factor
and how I just got so
were they actually like Vietnamese children
something like that yeah okay right right so this explains
why it was so easily just swept under the
okay yeah yeah yeah
they were filming it they used
way too big explosions
and
John Landis was literally screaming
Make it lower
helicopter
Go lower, go lower
Go lower
Okay
One of the fake explosions
caused the pilot
to lose control
Right
He
The blades went too far
He cut off
Yeah
So I think he cut off
The actor's head
The adult
Yeah
One of the kids' heads
Right
And then the helicopters
fell on the other kid
Okay
It happened in like seconds.
It was like instant basically.
An instant tank.
Cut.
Probably a bad use of that word right now, John.
That's not appropriate.
Maybe don't be joking around so much.
The parents were told about the stunt afterwards.
So imagine it's like, okay, one, first thing first, we're going to do a stunt.
We did a stunt with the kids involving a helicopter.
Second part of the story, it didn't go well.
yada yada yada yada you know all these things and they're dead yeah
don't make a big deal of it so they paid off everyone involved right big big payouts sure
i didn't know this uh stephen spielberg actually public it was like we're not friends anymore
oh really denounced them yeah spielberg was a producer oh and he was one of the few people
who did that okay yeah because john landis continued his career didn't they like you know
yeah so like this so directly after the
this horrific accident they went to court
and resulted in like
yeah they got away with it but like a lot of payments
of course yeah yeah out of court settlements
and whatnot so
hush money so next thing they're
they want to make trading places
yeah John Lannis is like oh that all
kind of put me in a bit of a funk
yeah I need a bit a bit of put a pep in my step
I need to make a comedy involving Dan Aykroyd
and blackface and big titties
yeah maybe Jamie Lee Curtis's
titis can help cure me
from this horrific instance
where I was responsible
for the debt of children
I mean if those titties don't do it
I don't know what will
And it worked baby
So they were making trading places
And Eddie Murphy was like
We should get this guy
I know he fucked up in the past
Yeah
But I think we should get him
Okay
Okay
He's been good to me in the past
We were buddies in the past
Sure it's fucked up
What happened
Yeah
But I don't think he was like
Literally like going
I'm going to kill some kids
On this movie
Did John Lannis do
coming to America as well?
Or was that Ivan Reitman?
Man, I'm so confused.
You know, what?
Coming to America with Eddie Murphy?
I forget the timing of it.
I don't know, like, I think he might have worked
with coming to America.
I don't know.
I think coming to America came...
No, I think they might have worked together before.
And that's why he wanted them back
for trading places.
Right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look, it doesn't matter.
It's all to see.
Kids listening have no idea
what we're talking about.
Kids, what kids are...
So I wear the sea shanties, you know
Okay
So yeah
So fucking Murphy like put his neck out
And it's like come on we need to get him on the film
Yeah yeah yeah
And then Landis was a massive dick
The entire time
Really?
Yeah massive dick
Would give like a power trip almost
Would give Eddie Murphy shit the whole time
Right okay
And wouldn't let like
Like Eddie Murphy have other people on
Like writers work and other projects
Who'd be like can we ask
You know on his downtime
And he'd be like get away
This is my set
Right
kind of any other people involved.
I control exactly what happens in it.
Okay.
And then eventually like Murphy had to slap him around a bit.
Nice.
I like that.
And I think that cured.
So the lesson is, if someone's giving you shit, slap them around.
Slap him around.
Eddie Murphy was like, cunt!
Cunt!
Ah, yeah.
Good times, good times.
Well, yeah, so that's the whole sordid tale.
Yeah.
He seems like a real.
Both of them seem like pretty cunty people.
I guess you can kind of see how Max Landis turned into such a piece of shit
because his father is also a horrific piece of shit.
You know, Max Landis also wrote for WWE Raw.
Oh, no, don't tell me that.
Yeah, so now you can't even enjoy that.
Oh, God.
Now wrestling's problematic.
Yeah.
Well, hey, that was fun now.
We had a little fun there.
I'm going to see if there's anything else.
Let's go back to the boxing for me.
I want to see if there's anything else I forgot to talk about.
um well apparently uh the makers of the documentary the bbc panorama documentary have been threatened
yeah i forgot about that that's so funny they're like we're going to take on the BBC next
yeah yeah we're gonna and i bet they're can't it's fun you ever see like some of the comments
about it no a lot of people are very pro kinahan yeah i'd imagine so yeah a lot big box like
you know uh fucking Tyson fury himself is like a big up to daniel king in for organizing this fight
to be honest like you know look
you get into the world of professional
sports there's always a bleed over
from organized crime that's just the
nature of the beast what are we children
like you whatever oh no
there can't be any problem and it's like grow
the fuck up love all right look at your
fucking iPhone all right you know where that
was made you know and look the shoes you're
wearing the world is a horrible place
rich people are profiting of misery
you are also enjoying you're worse
you're worse you're scum
hey listen here are lovely
So leave Father Michael
Forfer Michael alone
No, but you know what I mean
It's like, you know
Everyone's like
Oh, but this and that
And it's like yeah
You're just fucking saying that
Because you're bored
And you want to tweet about shit
All Kinahan did was allegedly
Fuck the BBC
Yeah
You know what
A bit rich isn't it
BBC
This is the thing
They're saying in the comments though
Bit rich isn't it
They charge for license fee
Who's the real gangsters
He might have sold heroin
The Children
Okay
He might have sold heroin
The Elmo from Love A
he might murder people
you know every year
but you gotta pay for
fucking EastEnders
so yeah
you mug
you bloody
taught
yeah
yeah that's
nothing's going to change
no
not
look I'm gonna say this right now
and yes I am going to speak for you
but this podcast
we're pro Kinnahen
100%
jumping on the Kinnahen's bandwagon
Danny boy
hit us up if you need some brand
ambassadors if you want like a really fat guy or a really skinny guy to wear your fighter merch
we're the dudes we can be the comic relief before fights that's right we can do a little who's on
first the gestures wheeled out to entertain the king yeah yeah i would love that it's just like
we just like are tyson fury's little pets i love it that he throws raw meat at us and we have
to fight each other oh i batter you too oh oh yes but i do you
sneaks, I use my charm, my sexual powers.
Yeah, you use brain and I use brawn.
Yeah. And it's annoying because, like, I do like Tyson Fury a lot.
Yeah, see, I mean, like that was a real triumphant, you know, you know, he wins the
World Heavyweight Championship. Then he goes off the rail with drink and drugs, puts on
loads of weight, gets really depressed. I could really identify with that.
If you take out the initial success, just the down slope, I was like.
this is my guy i can relate if you take out the initial success and the later success
but that bit in the middle oh yes i knew where he was coming from man did you see he won the press
confidence he was all fat and he dressed up like batman yeah yeah that's what i'm going to do
that was funny he was trying to get back his kids so he came and dressed as batman yeah yeah
yeah Tyson fury is great and like people like try and get him for like oh his problematic views he
was like he read up him like his kind of views and stuff what are his views
uh it's you know it's kind of like what yeah but he's probably you know he's probably
in fairness like they asked him when he was like probably on the in the down spiral
he's probably off his head and drugs and shit don't sugarcoat it brian what are his views
okay let's just say this okay a big guy yes who's focused on fighting yeah he's depressed
yeah things are going hard yeah his life is fucked on drink and drugs and fat like what do you think
about trans people oh okay yeah right right right yeah i see and he was like
what you'd expect.
Yeah.
Well, it seems like,
because that chick
from the mandolarian,
she was a UFC fighter.
So maybe
getting punched in the head
repeatedly makes you transphobic.
Where's the study on that?
Has it been done yet?
Is it transphobic though, James?
Because he said,
you're going to be marrying your dog next.
Yeah.
Next, you're going to be licking your cats minge.
Is that what he said?
Yeah, he literally said cats ming.
Like, hey, look, he's entertaining.
Yeah, that's true.
Even when he's being problematic,
he fucking razzle-dazzle.
I would never disagree with a man who could kill me with his bare hands
So
Well, we're pro Kenahan and I'm standing by that
Yeah, yeah
What's it, it's MTK?
I think it's MTK, yeah
Even that fact that it started off like a little gym
And now it's like, you know
They have offices in Abu Dhabi
They have a statue of Daniel Kinnahin
The size of the Empire State building
Yeah, oh yeah
He's going to be the new king.
Okay.
Guarantee you.
All hail the king.
Yeah.
And the little, little journalists.
All the, all the Veronica Gairns of the world are going to get what's coming to them.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been listening to because I'm so obsessed with Irish crime.
Right.
There's the, I think it's called like the Irish crime podcast.
Not very original.
No, probably has probably huge though, isn't it?
Oh, it's huge, yeah, yeah.
It's hosted by that Nicola Talent woman that's in the documentary.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, sure.
And it's a, I don't want to say it's anti-working class,
but you definitely get a little bit of a vibe of like,
he dropped out of school, he came from a rough place,
crime was in his blood.
Common as muck.
Just another one of the working class vermin
to crawl up out of the primordial ooze.
Man, the FBI are investigating this.
Yeah.
And again, they'll probably find nothing,
because they don't care.
No, of course, no.
They'll get a few brown envelopes, backhanders,
and it'll all be cool, baby.
It'll be gravy.
But you know what, Biden's so out of touch.
He'll just hear that, like, Daniel Kinnahins, Iris, so am I.
Hey, we hate the Brits, don't we?
Yes, yes, we do.
Oh, I tell you, that's the future right there.
You know the way normally the T-Shok goes to Washington?
Yes.
Done.
Now it's Kinnahen.
Now Biden will go to Kinnahen.
Yeah, on his knees.
Yeah.
Please, Daniel, please.
the charges are coming back
she just won't go away
yeah yeah
how do you shut them up
then you
teach me her ways
I'll get my boy Paul Messkel on the case
yeah yeah
pull me out of retirement
I was only two years old
when you had me do the Brunachie Gehrin job
and yeah it was good work
yeah
okay that's I think that's enough there
we covered a lot of stuff there
and I think we did well
yeah and you know to say whole truth of power we do the exact opposite we're lifting power up
lifting power up and suppressing the truth we're just shoving like get down get down we're the
general Mao of podcasts yeah he's got glorious five-year plan yeah I'm gonna get kin in tattoo and
everything or if basically anyone threatens me I'm signing with them yeah oh yeah so we're
well over well over an hour you got anything else to say no I just
just say watch Veronica Gehrin
watch that boxing documentary
yeah, hey watch
some Mike, no he said Mike Tyson
actually Mike Tyson got involved as well
at one stage. What do he say? Because boxing
has been a big thing in Irish
the Irish crime world so I think
the general got Mike Tyson over
Martin Cahill did. That'd be a good
fucking imagine them smoking big
joint together
yeah absolutely crazy
Martin I can't believe you see
you know when you're clicking your welfare
shake of your face man I never thought of that
That's crazy. That's great.
Yeah.
You know, it's so funny.
Mike Tyson's see, like,
wait, you're banging two sisters?
You a real G.
Yo, you raw dog and both those pussies, man.
That's crazy, yeah?
That's crazy.
Tyson asked for advice.
Like, how do I be cool like you?
Yeah, but I think, yeah, he got them,
he got Tyson over for like,
it wasn't even like,
I wasn't doing it was a fight,
it's more like a meet and greeting.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Meet Irish boxers.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
You can look, I think there's a picture going around of him.
His last fight before he retired, he fought Kevin McBride, who's from Monaghan.
I didn't know that at all.
Oh, I'm looking that up when I...
And Kevin beat him.
Kevin Bride beat him, and it was kind of like a...
Because Kevin McBride was kind of like a nobody fighter, and Tyson was once the greatest,
and then it really did signify he's done, he's over.
Was it visually clear that Tyson was not as best?
Yeah, I know it was.
Yeah, I think the fight only lasted a couple of...
rounds like it just he was done you know yeah yeah and what was the name again sorry kevin
mcbride and what's kevin mcbride now i don't know i think he's still fighting or maybe he's retired
this was 2008 this happened where is he based i'm not sure he's based now can we get him on the
show he's from clonis he's from monaghan so he probably was trained under barry mcwiggin and barry
mcgiggan was in the documentary complaining that kinnon's steel stole all his boxers from him
it's true which is true i mean you can't compete
no you can't
you know like
basically
Barry McQuinn
is basically
running like a small
mom and pop
shop
compared to like
and their
you know
Kinning's like
Walmart
yeah
yeah
geez we can get
Barry on
get Kinnahen on
get them all on
all at once
you know what they do
you know what they do
you lock the crips
and the bloods together
yes
yeah to make them
hash out their differences
we lock
the Kinnhan's
in your room
okay
because the mold's gone
so it's good now
now I can
entertain
guests
yeah
We get the Kinnons, the Hutches, Nicola Tallinn, we dig up Veronica Gehrin.
Mike Tyson, Tyson, Furey.
We get the brother involved as well.
Get McGregor round, why not?
For a wine and cheese party.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get Max and John Landis in.
Yeah, yeah.
We won't get Eddie, but we might get Arsenio.
We'll keep our fingers crossed.
We might get Arsenio.
Okay, let's end it there.
All right.
I'm going to eat more crisps.
We're back with more fun.
There's more fun.
See ya.
Bye.
