Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 110 : The Rocky Cadden Tiernan Show
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                                        Brian and James Fugge at her are back for free episodes.
                                         
                                        This is the one that changes it all, Brian.
                                         
                                        This is where it all turns around for us.
                                         
                                        This is when people finally stop and pay attention to us.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And they say, oh, they weren't racist.
                                         
                                        They weren't awful, bitter, ugly people.
                                         
                                        They actually were very satirical and they actually made very good points.
                                         
    
                                        Nah.
                                         
                                        Just watched Borat there.
                                         
                                        Awesome.
                                         
                                        Love Borat.
                                         
                                        Watch it at least once a week.
                                         
                                        Nah.
                                         
                                        Classic stuff.
                                         
                                        classic stuff.
                                         
    
                                        You came up with the idea
                                         
                                        of doing the impression, didn't you?
                                         
                                        You were like,
                                         
                                        someone should do an impression of that.
                                         
                                        I'm pretty sure I invented
                                         
                                        the concept of impressions
                                         
                                        of shitty,
                                         
                                        shitty impressions
                                         
    
                                        that only half sound
                                         
                                        like the people some of the time.
                                         
                                        It don't have to be good
                                         
                                        as long as you're loud.
                                         
                                        That's why you've learned.
                                         
                                        As long as your stupid,
                                         
                                        loud voice bombasts
                                         
                                        over the silence.
                                         
    
                                        no one can tell the difference if you're at a party and you do a really loud borat impression who cares
                                         
                                        if anyone else likes it you like it that's all that matters exactly yeah yeah how are you feeling james
                                         
                                        good good yeah all good you know where are you i'm in dublin i'm in my house in dublin my bedroom
                                         
                                        in glass nevin no i know it's probably i don't want to give away my address but i'm in glass nevin so
                                         
                                        i'll give you that much if you want to come and find me you'll have to put the work in your
                                         
                                        It's like Q drops. You drop little bits of information and the true fans can slowly piece together the puzzle of where you live. Jay drops. I'm jay dropping all over the place. How's Dublin these days with lockdown? Apparently lockdown will not end. No, it doesn't seem to be fucking ending anytime soon. It's actually the weather here. The last few days has been very nice. That's not mean. If people just being like fuck lockdown, we're going to take the shirt off and drink cans. Yeah, a lot of young ones are drinking and drink. And, yeah, a lot of young ones are drinking and.
                                         
                                        And like I live pretty close to Albert Park.
                                         
                                        So at night I can hear the young people out drinking and laughing.
                                         
    
                                        And I kind of like to, you know, just drive around the perimeter of the park.
                                         
                                        Just slowly peeking in through the fence.
                                         
                                        Just like, oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Jesus.
                                         
                                        I, you know, I used to do that myself, you know.
                                         
                                        I used to try, you know, hang out in the park with girls in skimpy shorts,
                                         
                                        laughing, having a good time.
                                         
                                        I'm pretty much the same as them.
                                         
    
                                        Sure, I'll tell you, I'll head over to them.
                                         
                                        Should they know that I'm good crack?
                                         
                                        They'll know, like, I'll be, I'll do anchorman quotes.
                                         
                                        I'll let them know I'm good crack.
                                         
                                        And like, you know, I'll have a few cans myself and like,
                                         
                                        oh, what's the crack boys?
                                         
                                        You're having the laugh.
                                         
                                        Are you, Jay?
                                         
    
                                        What is it?
                                         
                                        Leaving cert?
                                         
                                        Leave it cert.
                                         
                                        I'm just the cool older guy.
                                         
                                        Who's this chick you of age?
                                         
                                        I don't care.
                                         
                                        We're here to party, man.
                                         
                                        No, because in your head, you're like,
                                         
    
                                        I got to protect these people.
                                         
                                        people. I've got to protect these beautiful angels. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like De Niro and taxi driver's
                                         
                                        like, I don't want to make it. Don't you want to get out of here? Do something with your
                                         
                                        life selling your tight little bushy everywhere. And then you act surprised you don't get your
                                         
                                        taxi driver coats. You're talking to me. You're talking to you? No, please leave me
                                         
                                        alone. I'm just trying to walk home. Even follow me for 12 minutes.
                                         
                                        Please.
                                         
                                        You're talking to me,
                                         
    
                                        yeah.
                                         
                                        You're talking to me.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
                                        I don't do that.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        It would be wrong.
                                         
                                        It would be very, very wrong.
                                         
                                        So I don't do it.
                                         
    
                                        See, on the Patreon episode,
                                         
                                        he'd be like,
                                         
                                        yeah, we do it.
                                         
                                        But on the free episode,
                                         
                                        I have to be like,
                                         
                                        no,
                                         
                                        it's wrong.
                                         
                                        It's wrong and it's bad.
                                         
    
                                        It's even worse.
                                         
                                        No man can wear one face to himself
                                         
                                        and another to the world
                                         
                                        without forgetting
                                         
                                        which is which.
                                         
                                        Hawthorne, my friend.
                                         
                                        But yeah.
                                         
                                        So it seems like you're having a great time.
                                         
    
                                        We're like double agents.
                                         
                                        Seems like you're having a great time.
                                         
                                        I'm really not.
                                         
                                        No, I assure you.
                                         
                                        That's just the, you know, lingering effects of a manic episode.
                                         
                                        You know, I appear to be in good spirits,
                                         
                                        but really I'm just in a state of mental disrepair.
                                         
                                        But you realize you have all the pieces at hand.
                                         
    
                                        You have like, you're in Dublin.
                                         
                                        You have a cool job.
                                         
                                        It's really a mindset, James.
                                         
                                        It's not a cool job, though.
                                         
                                        Well, I guess it sounds better than it is.
                                         
                                        It's fine.
                                         
                                        A lot of people do think it sounds,
                                         
                                        a lot of people do think that you have an awesome life.
                                         
    
                                        I kind of feel bad without telling you don't.
                                         
                                        God, it's, yeah.
                                         
                                        Look, no, it actually is a good job and I'm lucky to have it.
                                         
                                        But I have to remind myself of that on a near hourly basis whenever I'm in there.
                                         
                                        It's like, this is a good job.
                                         
                                        You're lucky to have it.
                                         
                                        It's pandemic.
                                         
                                        You know, you're earning a enough.
                                         
    
                                        to live just about.
                                         
                                        I can afford rent and bills
                                         
                                        and food. I don't
                                         
                                        really splash out on anything because I can't.
                                         
                                        But like, the money's not great.
                                         
                                        The hours are fucking hectic.
                                         
                                        It can be either really tedious
                                         
                                        or really stressful.
                                         
    
                                        So the best of both worlds. Look, it's a job.
                                         
                                        A job's a job. You know, you're not meant to like
                                         
                                        your job, really. And I don't.
                                         
                                        So just work to you.
                                         
                                        You're right. It is a mindset.
                                         
                                        You know, I can make things better
                                         
                                        at any moment.
                                         
                                        If I choose to, but I don't.
                                         
    
                                        That's the thing.
                                         
                                        I know what I need to do to better myself.
                                         
                                        I need to eat right and exercise and lose weight and get healthy and stop drinking and doing drugs and all those things.
                                         
                                        But you know and I know that ain't going to happen because it's not in my nature.
                                         
                                        The good of the frog, the frog is not always the good of the scorpion.
                                         
                                        Yes, yes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And it doesn't help as well that I'm like, James, be happier.
                                         
    
                                        mindset as if I'm doing any
                                         
                                        those things. In fact, I'm living much worse
                                         
                                        life than you. I'm still in college.
                                         
                                        I'm just reliving my
                                         
                                        like, yeah, I was happy
                                         
                                        eight years ago when I started college. Let's do
                                         
                                        it again. You weren't really though,
                                         
                                        were you? You just were less miserable
                                         
    
                                        or less obviously unhappy.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I guess.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Don't even know what I'm doing with my life.
                                         
                                        Nobody does. Look, don't
                                         
                                        worry about it. Nobody does.
                                         
                                        Do I tell you there's an insurrection in
                                         
                                        my group, in my college group?
                                         
                                        Yeah, we're raising money for a women's charity.
                                         
    
                                        That's what the treasure hunt was for.
                                         
                                        How was the treasure hunt anyway?
                                         
                                        Was it a success?
                                         
                                        Nah, barely.
                                         
                                        A lot of fuckheads don't know how riddles work.
                                         
                                        And like, I kind of fuck myself over because, like, they were like, someone has to be charged
                                         
                                        the riddles.
                                         
                                        And I was like, I'll do it.
                                         
    
                                        And they were all like, oh, Brian, riddles is a very difficult job.
                                         
                                        Like, it's, you know, we've, maybe, maybe someone else should do it.
                                         
                                        I was like, no, I'll do it.
                                         
                                        I can do the riddles.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, I could barely do the riddles.
                                         
                                        And what exactly did it entail?
                                         
                                        Did you have to come up with the riddles?
                                         
    
                                        No, they came up with the riddles.
                                         
                                        They wouldn't let me come up with them.
                                         
                                        They came up with the riddles.
                                         
                                        So what?
                                         
                                        I just send them out.
                                         
                                        I just send them out and deal with the people asking me questions.
                                         
                                        But like, I kind of fucked up immediately because like if something like you have to run
                                         
                                        5K, you get a certain amount of riddles.
                                         
    
                                        Who came up with that aspect of it?
                                         
                                        Run 5K and solve a riddle.
                                         
                                        Some one of the other girls.
                                         
                                        But I kind of messed up.
                                         
                                        It does sound like something.
                                         
                                        one of them would come up with.
                                         
                                        So I think
                                         
                                        the way it worked is if you ran
                                         
    
                                        4K you got two riddles
                                         
                                        by accidentally sent out four riddles
                                         
                                        and that was a whole
                                         
                                        ordeal right there.
                                         
                                        You sure
                                         
                                        it's like an episode
                                         
                                        of the fucking West Wing
                                         
                                        Brian sent out four riddles
                                         
    
                                        dear God
                                         
                                        yeah everybody's just like walking
                                         
                                        and talking down corridors
                                         
                                        well who let Brian be in charge of riddles
                                         
                                        he was a diversity hires sir
                                         
                                        he was wearing glasses
                                         
                                        we had to take him on board
                                         
                                        so that was the first strike
                                         
    
                                        that was the first strike against me
                                         
                                        I was like oh fuck they're all going to take him an idiot now
                                         
                                        I can't mess up this time I gotta keep
                                         
                                        going and then your redemption
                                         
                                        so then like it was going okay
                                         
                                        I was dealing with all the people and people were like giving me
                                         
                                        the weirdest answers like one answer
                                         
                                        okay what's in the middle of Tokyo
                                         
    
                                        think about this now
                                         
                                        what's in the middle of Tokyo
                                         
                                        okay all right okay
                                         
                                        okay okay yeah that's the answer right yeah you answer it you get next one people were giving me like oh mountains
                                         
                                        oh yeah people were sending me like like like those like actual like locations like oh this mountain or this
                                         
                                        river and i was like uh i don't really know what to do here because they ran the k like they ran it
                                         
                                        but they got the answer wrong what do we do here and i was asking them and they're like oh brian
                                         
                                        just be easy if we just did it well well i mean what do you do i mean are you really going to tell
                                         
    
                                        someone who, you know, ran
                                         
                                        5K, but didn't get
                                         
                                        a stupid question right, that
                                         
                                        they can't, you know, participate
                                         
                                        anymore. That is a bit of a fuck
                                         
                                        you, isn't it? Yeah, and they've paid
                                         
                                        to be part of this, by the way. Yeah,
                                         
                                        and it's for charity and then
                                         
    
                                        what, somebody's going to go, no, you
                                         
                                        got the riddle wrong, so
                                         
                                        you basically beat those women
                                         
                                        yourself, you monster.
                                         
                                        Go home, you're done.
                                         
                                        It's like, fucking relax,
                                         
                                        pal, will you? Yeah, so anyway, the final
                                         
                                        If I were you, I just would have given them
                                         
    
                                        the answers. I were like, yeah, here's the answer.
                                         
                                        I don't care. Yeah, I would have been the cool guy,
                                         
                                        like the good cop, like, oh, they don't want you to get to rid of us.
                                         
                                        But hey, look, like you give me the answers.
                                         
                                        Hey, look, I smoke grass.
                                         
                                        Sure, everybody does.
                                         
                                        I listen to bad company on my free time,
                                         
                                        but you got to play it cool, Jack.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I'm like, the cop comes in like, hey, look, you know,
                                         
                                        that my daughter, her friends come around in their little dresses.
                                         
                                        I think about sometimes. I wouldn't, you know,
                                         
                                        wouldn't do it but I wouldn't do it but I'm a man I'm a man
                                         
                                        alright I see these girls I mean
                                         
                                        they're getting ready for grade school
                                         
                                        I'm a man a red-blooded male
                                         
                                        who wouldn't think about it but I don't do it because I'm a good
                                         
    
                                        fucking guy so then the final the final straw was
                                         
                                        I was kind of joking around because we got refund buttoned
                                         
                                        on the go fund me page right so you could just press
                                         
                                        that and then refund everyone's money so no one
                                         
                                        none of the charities get any money wow
                                         
                                        it's like a you got the
                                         
                                        self-destruct button. The red button
                                         
                                        that could detonate the nukes like
                                         
    
                                        you know. And I was just joking around
                                         
                                        with like, oh, I could press this and ruin everything.
                                         
                                        Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah, but you
                                         
                                        posted it. Yeah, I posted it.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I kind of, I went
                                         
                                        public with it. Yes, yeah.
                                         
                                        Much like Julian Assange,
                                         
                                        I went public with it and then
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah. They fake a rape
                                         
                                        case against me. You're Chelsea
                                         
                                        Manning.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so then they locked me out with a
                                         
                                        go fund me profile then.
                                         
                                        So they booted you out then.
                                         
                                        They were like, they changed the password.
                                         
                                        They were like, ah, it's best if Brian's not around.
                                         
    
                                        Let his grubby little fingers near it.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        So, are you going to like, you're not, what?
                                         
                                        I'm going to do good at work over it.
                                         
                                        No, your grades.
                                         
                                        Will your grades be affected by a, no, no, because I've done my bit.
                                         
                                        Like, it's a group project for the entire class.
                                         
    
                                        so most people aren't even doing anything.
                                         
                                        I just hope that like,
                                         
                                        because I remember in college
                                         
                                        when you did like the big group projects
                                         
                                        and then don't you have to like
                                         
                                        write up about it afterwards
                                         
                                        how it went and all that there.
                                         
                                        No, I've got the evidence I did the riddles.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        They can't fuck that over.
                                         
                                        They can't fuck me over there.
                                         
                                        You got receipts.
                                         
                                        You got receipts.
                                         
                                        I'll be glad to be done at this.
                                         
                                        Doing the riddles doesn't feel like,
                                         
                                        it doesn't feel like college, does it?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I'm in charge.
                                         
                                        charge of the riddles, you know, I don't think James Baldwin ever said that.
                                         
                                        Do they really feel like, I say, I have to remind myself sometimes. I'm paying for this.
                                         
                                        This is somehow supposed to help me get a job, as if like, I apply for a job anywhere.
                                         
                                        I'm like, does anyone need riddles?
                                         
                                        Well, like, here's the thing about college, right?
                                         
                                        More and more, it's becoming like a fucking, it's a scam, really, because everybody goes to college.
                                         
                                        everybody gets a level eight degree.
                                         
    
                                        If everybody has it, it reduces the value or validity of the qualification.
                                         
                                        Also, you know, every single person from the age of 18 up is going to college.
                                         
                                        There aren't that many fucking jobs in this country, you know what I mean?
                                         
                                        It's like a finite amount of resources and we're all scraping for it.
                                         
                                        College is a fucking, it's like a fucking pyramid scheme, man.
                                         
                                        con you know once upon a time it meant something to go to college but now it really doesn't like
                                         
                                        people go to get shit face for a few years and get the ride and maybe get a job out of it probably
                                         
                                        not though a lot of people just drop out yeah it's more daycare just to like teach people basic
                                         
    
                                        social skills which didn't work for me yeah yeah i thought i'd be prom king after i made up the riddles
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's just like being a football star, isn't it?
                                         
                                        I've got a riddle for you, Susie.
                                         
                                        What's long and odd?
                                         
                                        It gets bigger when you touch it.
                                         
                                        That's right, talk about.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think the current system of college, it won't, it can't last.
                                         
    
                                        It's bullshit.
                                         
                                        It really is bullshit.
                                         
                                        And like, you know, whatever about.
                                         
                                        over here, it really doesn't matter that much because it's not all that expensive, you know,
                                         
                                        it's like, what, like a couple of grand a year or whatever. Obviously, that varies. But like,
                                         
                                        when you look at like the likes of America where it's a hundred grand a year, I mean, that's fucking,
                                         
                                        that's insanity. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't get that at first. Because you know
                                         
                                        the way on American TV shows you'd have jokes about like, oh, I'm still paying off my college
                                         
    
                                        loans. Yeah, yeah. And then you look into it's like, yeah, obviously you're still like everyone's
                                         
                                        pain after college zones.
                                         
                                        Yeah, everybody is like in crippling financial debt
                                         
                                        for really no good reason.
                                         
                                        Like it doesn't, it really doesn't, you know,
                                         
                                        it's not fiscally responsible to go to college, really.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's actually, you're literally better off taking opiates.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        Well, that's what most of them end up doing to cope with the stress of debt.
                                         
                                        It's like, well, you're dead.
                                         
                                        got cancelled the minute you
                                         
                                        ODed on fentanyl. Well done.
                                         
                                        Oh, wait, no, just joking.
                                         
                                        Your grieving parents are we've given the
                                         
                                        debt to them now. So, yeah, well done.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well done. Not a wise investment.
                                         
    
                                        Speaking of fentanyl addiction, I watched a film Cherry.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        The Rooster Brothers film with Spider-Man in it.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah, how was that?
                                         
                                        Terrible. Yeah.
                                         
                                        Just embarrassing.
                                         
                                        I saw the trailer and I was like,
                                         
                                        this looks like dog shit.
                                         
    
                                        like I could tell it was the kind of movie I would fucking hate
                                         
                                        and just like kind of Gen Z shite like
                                         
                                        you know just like really marketed at like TikTok kids or whatever you know
                                         
                                        but the fact that it was the Russo brothers is depressing
                                         
                                        because I like the Russo brothers you know they've they've done good stuff
                                         
                                        well the story's interesting because it's based on a true story
                                         
                                        this guy called Niso
                                         
                                        yeah so what's the story lay it out for me there B man
                                         
    
                                        laid out for me man B dog
                                         
                                        okay so like there's this guy called
                                         
                                        Nico, all right? And
                                         
                                        he went to war, he got addicted
                                         
                                        to the drugs afterwards. He had PTSD
                                         
                                        if you believe in that thing.
                                         
                                        And then he started robbing banks.
                                         
                                        Which doctor's shit
                                         
    
                                        is it? voodoo. Voodoo
                                         
                                        nonsense, all right?
                                         
                                        Okay, so
                                         
                                        PTSD is kind of like your life, James.
                                         
                                        It's like, just look at it differently, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        look, yeah, you're having
                                         
                                        horrific flashbacks of
                                         
    
                                        war, but what if you just had
                                         
                                        a flashback of a pretty rainbow
                                         
                                        for flowers and puppies
                                         
                                        change your outlook.
                                         
                                        So Nico Walker is his name
                                         
                                        okay and it was a big story
                                         
                                        because he went to jail and he wrote
                                         
                                        a book in prison. He wrote a book called Cherry
                                         
    
                                        about his life Robin Banks
                                         
                                        and then it became a big thing
                                         
                                        immediately because it's a good selling point
                                         
                                        to be like this guy wrote the book in prison.
                                         
                                        Yeah and he's an ex
                                         
                                        you know it's got a lot of hooks
                                         
                                        It's got, you know, ex-military, PTSD, you know, opiate addiction, bank robbery.
                                         
                                        It's a lot of sensationalist stuff, you know?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's all relevant, though.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and I think he exaggerated, like, I think it's, I think it's, the book is semi-fictional.
                                         
                                        I think he only robbed a few banks, but in the book, he robs way more.
                                         
                                        So I walked into the bank holding a gun and my nine-inch cock.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he exaggerating a little bit.
                                         
                                        well it was cold that day
                                         
                                        funny if he was like yeah
                                         
    
                                        exaggerated a tiny bit
                                         
                                        and he just like printed out
                                         
                                        the screenplay for heat
                                         
                                        let's call him
                                         
                                        Nico Pacino
                                         
                                        and in the book he's like
                                         
                                        so then me and Val Kilmer
                                         
                                        were running around
                                         
    
                                        and Kilmer got shot
                                         
                                        but I wouldn't leave him behind
                                         
                                        okay so
                                         
                                        he published this book
                                         
                                        it was like an overnight
                                         
                                        a big publishing sensation
                                         
                                        and then the Rousseau
                                         
                                        has bought the rights for a million dollars
                                         
    
                                        which is kind of fuck all really
                                         
                                        yeah I mean but if you're in prison
                                         
                                        oh wait did he what the book got published
                                         
                                        while he was still in prison
                                         
                                        yeah or like he wrote it in prison
                                         
                                        and he got out and he got published
                                         
                                        okay but I figure like if it got published
                                         
                                        then it's a big success
                                         
    
                                        well I don't know I really don't know
                                         
                                        how these things work million dollars
                                         
                                        seems low but whatever I think it was like
                                         
                                        a million dollars but also you get like
                                         
                                        points. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't think
                                         
                                        he got scammed. I don't think the Roosutters wrote him a check on like
                                         
                                        a napkin. They're like, yeah, it's, that's legal, that is.
                                         
                                        You big PTSD freak.
                                         
    
                                        Go on, Dad's Army, on your bike.
                                         
                                        So they made this film and there was real Oscar buzz
                                         
                                        when they were making it. Because I saw the trailer
                                         
                                        and I know you can't really tell a lot from the
                                         
                                        killer, but no, it just looked like pop rocks and candy type movie making, you know?
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're trying to be cool. Feature Lance music video.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we'll get into that, but there's a lot of stuff in the filmmaking where it's like, oh,
                                         
                                        you're really trying here. That's embarrassing. But there was a lot of Oscar buzz and like the
                                         
    
                                        Rousseauber's like, yeah, this is a very serious film for us because we come from town that
                                         
                                        was ravaged by fentanyl. So this is like, this is us. This is a message. We're hoping this can
                                         
                                        raise awareness for the issue
                                         
                                        and we think this is
                                         
                                        this is going to be a very powerful film
                                         
                                        and then it came out and it was shite
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        and weirdly enough no one
                                         
    
                                        no one liked it
                                         
                                        okay good
                                         
                                        because you think that there be a few people
                                         
                                        who'd be like well you know
                                         
                                        it's an important message so we
                                         
                                        you know it's not great but
                                         
                                        I like Spider-Man
                                         
                                        no everyone just agreed it was kind of shite
                                         
    
                                        very boring
                                         
                                        okay yeah so get into what was so
                                         
                                        shite about it. So it's kind of just boring,
                                         
                                        was it, the story? Very repetitive.
                                         
                                        So what happens is, it starts off with this
                                         
                                        guy, Tom, let's call him Spider-Man,
                                         
                                        okay? Spider-Bitch.
                                         
                                        Sergeant Spider-Man.
                                         
    
                                        So,
                                         
                                        in the film, he's called Cherry.
                                         
                                        Why? Because the book's called Cherry, James.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
                                        I don't know. Probably he wrote
                                         
                                        like, oh, that's an interesting
                                         
                                        name, isn't it? No, it's not.
                                         
                                        Is there no reason why he's called
                                         
    
                                        Cherry. No, I don't think so. If there was, I missed it because I was bored.
                                         
                                        Right. Okay. I was probably something like he liked cherries as a kid and cherries represent
                                         
                                        innocence. Are they popped as cherry? Part of you, there's a lot of rape in the military.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there is like, like male and female rape. Like dudes get raped in there too.
                                         
                                        Oh, really? Yeah, that's what I hear. Well, my sources.
                                         
                                        That's why fantasize about. The Reddit, the subredits I subscribe to. They've never
                                         
                                        steered be wrong before. So anyway
                                         
                                        so Tom Holland,
                                         
    
                                        I'm not going to call him Cherry because that's too dumb.
                                         
                                        Tom Holland, okay?
                                         
                                        He's just a regular kid.
                                         
                                        He likes a bit of drug sometimes.
                                         
                                        He's in college. He's not doing well.
                                         
                                        He falls in love with a beautiful girl
                                         
                                        on site called Emily.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and it's like...
                                         
    
                                        He's a bit of a fuck-up in sites to go to war.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that'll sort you out.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah. The Iraq...
                                         
                                        Gee, you know, I remember.
                                         
                                        really struggle
                                         
                                        with the academic thing
                                         
                                        what should I
                                         
                                        I'll go to war
                                         
    
                                        that'll sort me out
                                         
                                        help me concentrate
                                         
                                        hearing loads of
                                         
                                        explosions and my friend
                                         
                                        get blown up
                                         
                                        that'll help me
                                         
                                        it's time
                                         
                                        I buckle down
                                         
    
                                        and fly right
                                         
                                        that'll help me
                                         
                                        with my essays
                                         
                                        so yeah
                                         
                                        it's a pretty basic
                                         
                                        story I'll run
                                         
                                        I'm not going to go
                                         
                                        to the whole plot
                                         
    
                                        I'll just run through it
                                         
                                        so he goes to the army
                                         
                                        he sees people
                                         
                                        getting blown up
                                         
                                        and he's like
                                         
                                        oh now I feel bad
                                         
                                        surprise surprise surprise
                                         
                                        he goes home
                                         
    
                                        he gets addicted to drugs
                                         
                                        Michael Gandalfini
                                         
                                        is one of his friends
                                         
                                        Oh is he in it much
                                         
                                        Not much
                                         
                                        Yes I'm very interested
                                         
                                        Just just I haven't seen him act yet
                                         
                                        Because I haven't watched that and he's in
                                         
    
                                        But don't watch this
                                         
                                        He is an actor
                                         
                                        In some things he's good
                                         
                                        He's good in the deuce
                                         
                                        Because he plays a bit of a loser
                                         
                                        Right
                                         
                                        Yeah I get you
                                         
                                        So like he
                                         
    
                                        He gets addicted to the drugs
                                         
                                        And his girlfriend's like
                                         
                                        Oh stop that
                                         
                                        But then she gets stick to the drugs as well
                                         
                                        That'll shut her up
                                         
                                        Problem solved
                                         
                                        That's great
                                         
                                        Now
                                         
    
                                        Is it
                                         
                                        Is it just like
                                         
                                        Kind of
                                         
                                        What do you call it
                                         
                                        Percocet and OxyCotin
                                         
                                        Or do they do like
                                         
                                        Straight heroin
                                         
                                        There's a bit heroin in it
                                         
    
                                        There's like
                                         
                                        Coke and stuff
                                         
                                        There's a really weird scene
                                         
                                        In it
                                         
                                        Where their drug dealer
                                         
                                        In it is called
                                         
                                        He's called Coke and Pills
                                         
                                        That's his name
                                         
    
                                        Coke and Pills
                                         
                                        Yeah that's his name
                                         
                                        Bit on the nose
                                         
                                        Yeah, and he's played by
                                         
                                        Jack Rainer. The Irish guy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, you like him, don't you? I like him.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, he was good in what Richard did,
                                         
                                        and I liked him in there free fire as well
                                         
    
                                        that Ben Wheatley film, he was good in that.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I hated him in Sing Street,
                                         
                                        but I hated everything about Sing Street.
                                         
                                        He played the cool brother.
                                         
                                        No, I fucking hated that film. I was shy.
                                         
                                        Sing Street is the one guy, isn't it?
                                         
                                        I don't even care.
                                         
                                        That's right, Brian.
                                         
    
                                        I'm saying it.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But Glenn Hanser.
                                         
                                        No secret, no sick.
                                         
                                        Glenn Hansard.
                                         
                                        He groomed that bitch.
                                         
                                        He like met her when she was 14.
                                         
    
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        13 James.
                                         
                                        You don't like me bringing it up.
                                         
                                        But that's the truth.
                                         
                                        My mate.
                                         
                                        He met the, what happened was he was walking through the park one day.
                                         
                                        He saw a pregnant woman and he was like,
                                         
                                        I'm going to be friends with your baby.
                                         
    
                                        And he started serend.
                                         
                                        in her in the
                                         
                                        like the fetus through the uteril wall
                                         
                                        take this
                                         
                                        shrinking cock
                                         
                                        and stuff it
                                         
                                        all we still got
                                         
                                        anyway sorry
                                         
    
                                        go on so anyway
                                         
                                        this is a weird scene so he goes to
                                         
                                        the house the drug dealer played by
                                         
                                        Jack Rayner
                                         
                                        yeah yep and there's drugs
                                         
                                        coke and pills there's drugs
                                         
                                        all over the kitchen all right
                                         
                                        like his proper drugs lab everywhere
                                         
    
                                        He's not even trying to hide it, okay?
                                         
                                        And then his sister who lives with him comes down.
                                         
                                        She's like, oh, what's that?
                                         
                                        Is that candy?
                                         
                                        And his sister has Down syndrome.
                                         
                                        Oh, I see.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but it's like, surely she's seen these drugs before.
                                         
                                        Yes, she's like coming down.
                                         
    
                                        Like, he's got a fully functional meth lab in his kitchen.
                                         
                                        I was just powder everywhere.
                                         
                                        And she comes down, it's sweeties.
                                         
                                        It's like, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        She does this act every day.
                                         
                                        She's like, oh, what's this?
                                         
                                        You know what it is.
                                         
                                        You're getting free shit.
                                         
    
                                        It's like 50 first dates.
                                         
                                        Fifty first date rapists.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Whatever.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So then she's like, oh, are those sweets?
                                         
                                        And Jack Rainer's like, yeah, they're sweets.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And he goes to Tom Holland.
                                         
                                        Like, she'll give her the sweets.
                                         
                                        He he, he, ha, ha, ha.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Go on, Jack.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He has a needle, a syringe, okay?
                                         
                                        And he goes, here comes the airplane.
                                         
    
                                        And he puts in her mouth.
                                         
                                        But it's not like, he doesn't like,
                                         
                                        injector, it's not like a needle, is it?
                                         
                                        You can squirter a bit into her mouth.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
                                         
                                        Syringe full of liquid.
                                         
                                        It's just messing about, you know?
                                         
                                        I was going to say that's the only good scene.
                                         
    
                                        It's not exactly good, but it's only like, well, that's somewhat interesting.
                                         
                                        It's interesting.
                                         
                                        It peaks, yeah, it picks your, it gets your attention.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And then the rest of it, he just rose banks for a while, and then the bank robberies go
                                         
                                        wrong and he goes to jail.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        It's not, it's literally not, there's nothing happens in it.
                                         
                                        Does he get turned out?
                                         
                                        Like a little bitch.
                                         
                                        No, we missed that.
                                         
                                        Maybe he does, because he goes to jail and he comes out with a mustache.
                                         
                                        So what does that employ?
                                         
                                        I think we can all read between the lines there.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        There's a lot of stuff in the film where it feels like even the directors got bored,
                                         
                                        so just start adding stuff to it.
                                         
                                        Like, they change the aspect ratio when he goes to war.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Isn't that crazy?
                                         
                                        It's so fucking, that's like so hacky and dumb.
                                         
                                        And it's just like they literally couldn't think of anything else.
                                         
                                        It's like, oh, we'll change the aspect ratio to convey his claustrophobia and suffocation of his situation.
                                         
    
                                        Beb, be, be, be, b, b, b, b, b. Well done. Dickhead.
                                         
                                        Fucking retards, sorry. That always annoys me when I see it in films.
                                         
                                        Also, his girlfriend in it looks about 12.
                                         
                                        Oh, well, hey, just when I thought I was out.
                                         
                                        You'll pull me back in.
                                         
                                        He's like, Tom Holland looks fairly young, but like he just,
                                         
                                        about pulls it off, even though it's a lot of times
                                         
                                        when he's talking about war, you're like, you didn't go to war,
                                         
    
                                        you're fucking Spider-Man. But like, she
                                         
                                        looks really young. And there's a
                                         
                                        one, and there's lots of like scenes where they
                                         
                                        sexualize her, but it feels like
                                         
                                        it's like, like a gay guy
                                         
                                        thinking what hetero people think
                                         
                                        is sexy. Oh, really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, like it's a bit where he's in the army
                                         
    
                                        and he's, he's jacking off.
                                         
                                        And he says, he, he, when he's in the
                                         
                                        army jacking off, he never told about anyone
                                         
                                        else, only beautiful Emily.
                                         
                                        That is gay. Yeah. I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        When he fantasises about her, it's her on a swing with a bra.
                                         
                                        Oh, what the fuck?
                                         
                                        We're on a bra.
                                         
    
                                        That's what guys are thinking about.
                                         
                                        Oh, she's on a swing.
                                         
                                        She's a swing.
                                         
                                        He's like, yeah, that's like, that's a fantasy, Vladimir Novakoff would come up with.
                                         
                                        Like that highbrow reference?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Highbrow pito jokes, people.
                                         
                                        That's what you get.
                                         
    
                                        You try your best.
                                         
                                        I had it written on my hand.
                                         
                                        Vladimir Naboky.
                                         
                                        Nabokov, what?
                                         
                                        So, and it was very boring.
                                         
                                        I don't even want to talk about it anymore.
                                         
                                        Didn't like it.
                                         
                                        I watched loads of films this week, James.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I want to come into America.
                                         
                                        Coming to America.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Because it was the second one.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's a clever title.
                                         
                                        That's all I need.
                                         
                                        I see that title.
                                         
    
                                        I'm already laughing.
                                         
                                        It's the number two,
                                         
                                        and it's the bloody second one.
                                         
                                        but you'd use the word in coming to
                                         
                                        oh that's geniuses
                                         
                                        it's very multi-layered
                                         
                                        in it, very cerebral
                                         
                                        oh tough to ask
                                         
    
                                        I don't even have time to watch the film
                                         
                                        I'm just too busy laughing to myself
                                         
                                        and that's Lily turns in the tears
                                         
                                        so how was coming to
                                         
                                        America? Pretty boring
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        I kind of felt like a TV pilot
                                         
                                        I've kind of heard it was a bit of a misfire
                                         
    
                                        no it's not it's not
                                         
                                        it's not like bad about it per se
                                         
                                        like it's not even something you can hate on
                                         
                                        just feels like oh yeah
                                         
                                        it's a bit of no tits in it
                                         
                                        oh wow
                                         
                                        but Leslie Jones does get eating out at one stage
                                         
                                        it's as well she's implied she's eating out
                                         
    
                                        Jesus Christ
                                         
                                        Who you're gonna call
                                         
                                        I actually like Leslie Jones
                                         
                                        She gets a lot of shit and it's really not
                                         
                                        She's all right in this film
                                         
                                        She's funny like she's genuinely funny
                                         
                                        I think but
                                         
                                        She just gets hated on so much
                                         
    
                                        It's as well
                                         
                                        I re-watched
                                         
                                        Raging Bull there
                                         
                                        a couple of days ago
                                         
                                        fucking incredible man
                                         
                                        it actually is so fucking good
                                         
                                        I think it might be his best film
                                         
                                        I watch Rocky 5
                                         
    
                                        and I fucking
                                         
                                        both watching boxing films
                                         
                                        you watch Rocky 5
                                         
                                        yeah watch Rocky 5
                                         
                                        and Balboa
                                         
                                        that's so funny
                                         
                                        because like
                                         
                                        my roommates
                                         
    
                                        well like it's
                                         
                                        Leanne and Evan
                                         
                                        they're watching
                                         
                                        all the Rockies
                                         
                                        really watch Rocky 5
                                         
                                        yeah I swear to God
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        and like I
                                         
    
                                        I seen all the Rockies when I was a kid, right?
                                         
                                        The first one is like a, you know, legitimately decent film.
                                         
                                        It's not incredible, but it's solid.
                                         
                                        You know, it works.
                                         
                                        Underdog story, the whole thing.
                                         
                                        But it, I just forgot just how farcical it gets almost immediately.
                                         
                                        From the second movie onwards, it just is absurd.
                                         
                                        And that fifth movie is legitimately one of the biggest piles of dog shit that has ever been committed to cellulose.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        And I only kind of walk.
                                         
                                        in and out of the kitchen a couple of times.
                                         
                                        Oh, I swear, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And, like, it's just like,
                                         
                                        I got problems, okay?
                                         
                                        I got problems.
                                         
                                        You got a win, Rocky.
                                         
    
                                        You got a win.
                                         
                                        You got no heart.
                                         
                                        Like, it's just like the most fucking expositional bullshit is like,
                                         
                                        I got these feelings in my brain and my heart.
                                         
                                        And his little fucking annoying dweeby son is like,
                                         
                                        yeah, the kids are bullying me,
                                         
                                        but I'm going to learn to be tough and stick up for myself.
                                         
                                        Hey, you're smoking cigarettes now?
                                         
    
                                        What are you shucking cock, do?
                                         
                                        You want that crack, brock, you little fuck.
                                         
                                        But I don't know.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's terrible.
                                         
                                        That kid died.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he did.
                                         
                                        Well, you know, no good deed goes on punished.
                                         
                                        And the fighter he trained is at died of AIDS.
                                         
    
                                        The machine gun, Tommy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        What's the name again, Machine Gun Tommy or something?
                                         
                                        Tommy Gun.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Tommy Gun.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he got AIDS.
                                         
                                        Well, the scythe is swift and mercy.
                                         
                                        There's some good stuff in it though
                                         
    
                                        What about the bit in the car park
                                         
                                        Where he hits Don King
                                         
                                        I didn't I didn't see that bit
                                         
                                        I haven't seen it since I was a kid
                                         
                                        I was just kind of in the I was like in the kitchen
                                         
                                        Like kind of making some dinner
                                         
                                        I could just hear it in the background
                                         
                                        So yeah fair enough I wasn't watching it properly
                                         
    
                                        But just the bits I was present for
                                         
                                        Just were horrific like really bad
                                         
                                        Well even Stallone kind of says
                                         
                                        Yeah the fifth one was kind of shit
                                         
                                        Whereas like
                                         
                                        two, three and four
                                         
                                        cinematic masterpieces
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
    
                                        Just fucking perfect
                                         
                                        Dog shit
                                         
                                        The whole fucking franchise is dog shit
                                         
                                        Have you watched Creed?
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Creed's good
                                         
                                        Yeah I heard Creed is good
                                         
                                        So I'll
                                         
    
                                        You know
                                         
                                        I'm not gonna
                                         
                                        Rocky gets
                                         
                                        Hopkins lymphoma
                                         
                                        Lymphona
                                         
                                        He gets sick
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Hodgkins lymphoma
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he gets sick and he's like, I'm not going to fight you. He's going to let, he's not going to do the chemo. But then Creed convinces him to do chemo. He's like, you fight in the ring. Now you got, this is your biggest fight. The hospital.
                                         
                                        I told you, I don't have my wallet on me, kid. Leave me alone, please. Oh. Actually, Creed isn't that good. Whoever told you it is lying.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I kind of heard, like, I heard anytime somebody mentions Creed, it's always like, you know, it's actually quite good. You know,
                                         
                                        But it's with that inflection
                                         
                                        It's like, you know, it's not bad.
                                         
                                        It's actually okay.
                                         
                                        It's actually not horrific.
                                         
    
                                        It's actually not as terrible as I thought it would be.
                                         
                                        It was serviceable.
                                         
                                        It's what people mean when they say that.
                                         
                                        The Rocky stuff is good because Stallone wrote the dialogue and that.
                                         
                                        But I think like Michael B. Jordan's a good actor,
                                         
                                        but the character in it is a little bit too perfect, I think.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Because Rocky works because he's a big dummy.
                                         
                                        And he couldn't work.
                                         
                                        anywhere else you know he couldn't get an office job no where michael b jordan like at start he works
                                         
                                        in like a company a regular company and he just like fights on the weekends down in mexico for fun like
                                         
                                        okay like fight club yeah like that well they're not it's not like illegal fights just down in
                                         
                                        mexico or laws a little bit more lax sure yeah yeah and then he's like i want to fight jordan versus
                                         
                                        a chicken and then he's like oh i got a fight to impress my dad even though
                                         
                                        like he's he's an affair baby
                                         
    
                                        his dad didn't look after him at all
                                         
                                        oh and his dad's
                                         
                                        Apollo creed is that yeah yeah so his dad
                                         
                                        didn't raise him at all his dad like just
                                         
                                        fuck some random girl and then
                                         
                                        like got killed by a Russian and then
                                         
                                        you know Michael B. Jordan's like
                                         
                                        I got to do for my dad's legacy
                                         
    
                                        even though I've never really met him
                                         
                                        and he disowned me
                                         
                                        he's basically like Eddie Murphy
                                         
                                        and Scary Spice's baby
                                         
                                        and I was like
                                         
                                        Eddie was like after about 12 years
                                         
                                        that he was like, all right, fine.
                                         
                                        You can live in the pool
                                         
    
                                        house, but keep it down.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        And in the first
                                         
                                        Creed movie, he has to fight,
                                         
                                        he has to fight a scouser,
                                         
                                        a Liverpool guy, and they fight in
                                         
                                        Goodison Park in Everton's
                                         
                                        stadium.
                                         
    
                                        Okay. And I was actually more rooting
                                         
                                        for the scouser, to be honest.
                                         
                                        I'm going to fucking knock your block off,
                                         
                                        you fucking dirty bastard.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and the rush, the, the scouser's
                                         
                                        making,
                                         
                                        good points. He's like, you're a fake creed.
                                         
                                        You're a phony creed. There's the fucking line, boys.
                                         
    
                                        You're a phony creed.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And then the second creed, he fights
                                         
                                        Drago's son.
                                         
                                        Oh, right. But you're actually kind of rooting for
                                         
                                        Drago's son, because Drago's son is almost like
                                         
                                        his dad's making a fight to prove a point.
                                         
                                        Is it, what's his name in it? Is he back in it?
                                         
                                        Yeah, Longgren. Original. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And his wife sent back there, you know,
                                         
                                        Bridget Nielsen.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah. She's back in it. She's the main
                                         
                                        villain in it. How's she looking?
                                         
                                        Great, because she's big in the plastic surgery.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay. Yeah. I was that a weird thing for
                                         
                                        Bridget Nielsen. Ever since I saw Beverly Hills cop
                                         
                                        too as a kid. And then I saw her titty's and celebrity big
                                         
    
                                        brother. I was like, yes, please.
                                         
                                        You saw it in like someday. Could be something to read into
                                         
                                        there. There could be the slight androgy thing. She's tall, broad
                                         
                                        shoulders, big titty, short
                                         
                                        hair. I just want it all
                                         
                                        Brian, that's what I want. I want
                                         
                                        Dolph Lundgren and Pamela Anderson
                                         
                                        to fuck me at the same time.
                                         
    
                                        So who better than
                                         
                                        Bridget Nielsen? She perfectly embodies
                                         
                                        both those two people at once.
                                         
                                        Oh man. You know she
                                         
                                        slept with Stallone and
                                         
                                        Arnold? Oh yeah.
                                         
                                        She was married to Stallone.
                                         
                                        Wow. That's what I call
                                         
    
                                        a hero sandwich.
                                         
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        And she was an alcoholic.
                                         
                                        Sex.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she was in Dr. Drew's
                                         
                                        Celebrity Rehab thing.
                                         
                                        That's such a cool life.
                                         
                                        You know who else had a really cool life?
                                         
    
                                        You know in the first Rocky,
                                         
                                        he talks to that random girl
                                         
                                        and he's like,
                                         
                                        you're a fucking whore.
                                         
                                        You should be off the streets.
                                         
                                        Yeah, vaguely.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I remember that little girl,
                                         
                                        it's not little.
                                         
    
                                        Like, she's like a teenager
                                         
                                        and he's like walking with her going like,
                                         
                                        oh, you know, you walk around
                                         
                                        with these little dresses.
                                         
                                        What do you expect?
                                         
                                        You got respect yourself.
                                         
                                        you got to stop dressing like that.
                                         
                                        Slot shaming.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        She's from Belfast.
                                         
                                        What the fuck away from me?
                                         
                                        You droopy-eyed, lock and con.
                                         
                                        No, I looked drop out of interest.
                                         
                                        She's from Belfast and she moved.
                                         
                                        Basically, these Hollywood producers came over to Ireland
                                         
                                        and they were like, we're going to pick three children
                                         
    
                                        to bring back with us.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's like, so they had to outbid the Catholic Church.
                                         
                                        They, dollar two, dollar two, dollar three, number three,
                                         
                                        number three, da, blah, blah, blah.
                                         
                                        yeah okay so they picked like the three best children they could find and it brought them over
                                         
                                        and then they were like yeah you can you can you can be actors now and we'll be your agents
                                         
                                        and then she ends up being Danny DeVito's a babysitter
                                         
    
                                        interesting she was the bait for a dying of Vito and the woman from Cheers she looked after
                                         
                                        the kids oh okay so that's a pretty cool life acting didn't really work out for her then
                                         
                                        no this is like part time what else was she ever in uh Rocky Balboa
                                         
                                        she came back in da.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
                                        How's she looking?
                                         
                                        Grand.
                                         
                                        What's her name?
                                         
    
                                        Not a mess.
                                         
                                        She didn't look like a mess.
                                         
                                        I'll look her up now, James.
                                         
                                        We can gawk at her.
                                         
                                        Yeah, do it.
                                         
                                        Well, you'll gawk.
                                         
                                        And I'll just have you describe her to me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's how I like to get off.
                                         
                                        Geraldine Hughes.
                                         
                                        Geraldine Hughes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she is from Belfast, isn't she?
                                         
                                        Oh, and she's in Grand Tarino.
                                         
                                        She had a lot of makeup on.
                                         
                                        One of the Asian gang members.
                                         
    
                                        Let me tell you something about you Belfast, bitches.
                                         
                                        I used to kill Belfast who was like you in North Korea.
                                         
                                        I don't think any of that's right, mystery.
                                         
                                        So I'd keep rolling.
                                         
                                        This is gold.
                                         
                                        She's had the career, I wouldn't mind,
                                         
                                        where she's just been a working actress since the 80s.
                                         
                                        And she's never been like big,
                                         
    
                                        but she's done like law and order,
                                         
                                        SVU and regular law and order.
                                         
                                        All she had to do is just,
                                         
                                        wank off Danny DeVito once a month
                                         
                                        you know that's a good deal
                                         
                                        that's you do that for free like
                                         
                                        oh yeah
                                         
                                        so what are we talking about oh yeah creed
                                         
    
                                        creed too uh so
                                         
                                        I like all the Rocky films
                                         
                                        yeah I mean you like them but you
                                         
                                        realize they're not actually good though
                                         
                                        you always got plans for more Rockies
                                         
                                        it's actually impressive that he has just been
                                         
                                        like the start of his career
                                         
                                        and the end of his career
                                         
    
                                        and it's all a Rocky.
                                         
                                        Obviously there's other stuff peppered in there,
                                         
                                        but I mean, it is Rocky
                                         
                                        that puts the food on his table, you know?
                                         
                                        So there's a whole cinematic universe now.
                                         
                                        So the plan is there's going to be Creed Tree.
                                         
                                        And then it's going to be a separate film starring Rocky
                                         
                                        where Rocky finds an immigrant
                                         
    
                                        and then teaches the immigrant how to fight.
                                         
                                        Isn't that like reverse karate kid?
                                         
                                        Basically, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's going to be
                                         
                                        It's going to be
                                         
                                        Mexicans
                                         
                                        It's going to be
                                         
                                        A border crisis
                                         
    
                                        It's going to be
                                         
                                        very topical
                                         
                                        Oh, okay
                                         
                                        And then he's going to do
                                         
                                        a Rocky TV series
                                         
                                        Life is like a taco
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        I try to fit all the stuff
                                         
    
                                        in it and a taco
                                         
                                        But it thought all fit
                                         
                                        But you got to make a fit
                                         
                                        Because this life
                                         
                                        He's going to push you down
                                         
                                        And give you the shit
                                         
                                        Like bad taco meat
                                         
                                        You got to fight back
                                         
    
                                        What are you talking about
                                         
                                        Mr Stallone
                                         
                                        Though I continue
                                         
                                        they've got the hedges.
                                         
                                        They don't got hedges, man.
                                         
                                        And then he's going to do a Rocky TV show,
                                         
                                        a prequel about Rocky as a kid.
                                         
                                        Pebble. They'll call it pebble.
                                         
    
                                        Pebbley.
                                         
                                        Eh, eh, eh, eh.
                                         
                                        Go on, keep up.
                                         
                                        So he's got big plans for Rocky.
                                         
                                        Okay. That's good. I'm glad.
                                         
                                        It's good days working.
                                         
                                        You know, his mother only died like a year ago.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        was still active. Man, she looked like patient zero for plastic surgery. Like, she looks like
                                         
                                        she just went into a lab as like, you know, we're just going to try some stuff out. We're just
                                         
                                        going to fling shit at the wall and see what sticks. Her face by the end of it was a fucking
                                         
                                        disaster, man. Like a Chernobyl abortion. It was horrific. It was awful. Oh, no. Take a look at it.
                                         
                                        if you get a chance. I'm looking up now, James. I can't
                                         
                                        disagree. Jackie Stallone. No, nobody could disagree.
                                         
                                        I mean, that was an absolute fucking
                                         
                                        train wreck.
                                         
    
                                        Like, plastic trash is getting bare.
                                         
                                        You're right.
                                         
                                        Asterix, but not Jackie Stallone.
                                         
                                        Yeah. You're right. Back then, it was kind of
                                         
                                        freestyles. Like, we'll try this.
                                         
                                        Like contemporary jazz. Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm the John Cole train
                                         
                                        of plastic surgeons.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Oh, God.
                                         
                                        It's kind of hard to tell
                                         
                                        what age she is
                                         
                                        because
                                         
                                        Yes, that's the thing
                                         
                                        And you know what
                                         
                                        Stallone is the same
                                         
    
                                        Like
                                         
                                        Stallone is in his 70s
                                         
                                        He doesn't look
                                         
                                        Like he's in his 70s
                                         
                                        But he also doesn't look
                                         
                                        Human
                                         
                                        So I guess
                                         
                                        That's good
                                         
    
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Oh no
                                         
                                        I didn't know this
                                         
                                        She was in Celebrity Big Brother
                                         
                                        With Bridget Nielsen
                                         
                                        That's right
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        And that was the whole big thing
                                         
    
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Oh I'm here with my ex-mother-in-law
                                         
                                        but Bridget Eilsson got all boozed up
                                         
                                        and showed her tiddies in the hot tub
                                         
                                        pretty awesome
                                         
                                        Did you see it?
                                         
                                        Yeah, she did yeah
                                         
                                        I did I saw them
                                         
    
                                        Both of them
                                         
                                        All present and accounted for
                                         
                                        Yeah I'm pretty sure
                                         
                                        I saw her titt yeah I'm pretty sure
                                         
                                        I hope so
                                         
                                        I'm going to look at just a dream
                                         
                                        I'm seeing them but not on big brother
                                         
                                        Oh I am I'm seeing him
                                         
    
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        Wow
                                         
                                        Yeah I'm glad we got to some
                                         
                                        tape. We got my life reaction to
                                         
                                        seeing them. And you know what? Your
                                         
                                        reaction was perfectly
                                         
                                        acceptable. That's exactly
                                         
                                        how someone should react
                                         
    
                                        to Bridget Nielsen's tidies. It's like
                                         
                                        oh yeah, there they are.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yep. I should have done a real like
                                         
                                        like, oh, wowzers.
                                         
                                        Like, read over the top.
                                         
                                        You just like get up and walk
                                         
                                        around the room.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah, I throw the
                                         
    
                                        mic down.
                                         
                                        You just like
                                         
                                        slap your
                                         
                                        knee with the mic like Chappelle.
                                         
                                        What else was? I mean, watching the Tommy Tiernan show.
                                         
                                        Oh, good. You know, I've never actually watched that. And I realize it's definitely,
                                         
                                        I mean, it's good and it's definitely the best thing that RTE are doing currently.
                                         
                                        But I haven't sat down and give it a proper go.
                                         
    
                                        It's kind of a, it's gone weird because I feel like at the start, Tommy would have a few,
                                         
                                        like, interesting interviews where people would open up and get a little sad.
                                         
                                        I feel like now guests go on expecting that to happen.
                                         
                                        Right, yeah.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, I do kind of see everyone was like so brave,
                                         
                                        such and such on Tommy Turing and talking about mental health
                                         
                                        or sexual abuse survivors or blah, blah, blah.
                                         
                                        Whereas, like, the original gimmick of the show was like,
                                         
    
                                        it could be funny, it could be serious.
                                         
                                        We don't know until the interview starts.
                                         
                                        We don't know who it is.
                                         
                                        That was the little gimmick of it.
                                         
                                        whereas now people just kind of come
                                         
                                        up, come in with their sob story
                                         
                                        written on a napkin ready to go
                                         
                                        and Tommy's just like
                                         
    
                                        Jesus, that's Tara. I feel like
                                         
                                        you know the way with Howard Stern
                                         
                                        everyone was like, oh, he's going to ask me lots of juicy
                                         
                                        questions so I better have some
                                         
                                        like some stuff ready. You know, he's going to
                                         
                                        ask me about sex and money and
                                         
                                        drugs, so I better get those stories ready
                                         
                                        because that's what Howard wants to hear.
                                         
    
                                        I feel like a lot of these actors in Tommy Tieran the show
                                         
                                        they're like he's probably going to want to hear about
                                         
                                        the abuse. So I better start
                                         
                                        off with that straight away before he even says
                                         
                                        hello. Like, Brenda Flickr was
                                         
                                        Rod Hall like in real life? Yeah, he raped me.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay. I wasn't
                                         
                                        so many of the guests
                                         
    
                                        on it are just sad before it even
                                         
                                        starts. Like Brenda Flickr came on, you know her?
                                         
                                        Yeah, the pigeon lady from home alone. Yeah, yeah. She got
                                         
                                        on the show and you swear to God you would take her
                                         
                                        shoelaces away. Like she came on and it looked like she was going to
                                         
                                        kill herself any second. Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, she was so depressed on it.
                                         
                                        And she immediately was like, yeah, it's doing well.
                                         
    
                                        I got the new antidepressants and I like to stare at the wall.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        What, I mean, she must be a right old age now.
                                         
                                        She looks old and sad.
                                         
                                        She still got a career though, isn't she?
                                         
                                        No, she says she doesn't want to act anymore.
                                         
                                        She's just wants to stay in her house and she's like going outside.
                                         
    
                                        And she just feels very depressed all the time.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        She'll be a good guest on Fallon.
                                         
                                        do your wheel of impressions
                                         
                                        here's my impression of Robin Williams
                                         
                                        oh I can actually do this one
                                         
    
                                        hand me a belt please
                                         
                                        yeah it's so weird
                                         
                                        they got like they keep getting guests on
                                         
                                        and they'd be like you know I work in the zoo
                                         
                                        and I teach penguins how to play the piano
                                         
                                        and Tommy would be like that's great
                                         
                                        he's like yeah
                                         
                                        well you know after my father died
                                         
    
                                        and it's like oh okay
                                         
                                        here we go
                                         
                                        Yeah, they had that fucking
                                         
                                        prick, or maybe this was the
                                         
                                        late late show. See, that's the thing, that's what I don't
                                         
                                        like now. It's becoming pretty
                                         
                                        hard to discern from
                                         
                                        the Tommy Tiernan show or the late
                                         
    
                                        late show. It's kind of, they're both
                                         
                                        going very samey,
                                         
                                        you know, obsessed over morose
                                         
                                        tragic bullshit. It's like,
                                         
                                        yeah, we're all fucking depressed
                                         
                                        and miserable and all of our
                                         
                                        loved ones are dead. I'm watching
                                         
                                        the fucking telly to forget all that
                                         
    
                                        shit. You tubbered
                                         
                                        you're never going to say anything poignant enough
                                         
                                        to warrant me listen to you talk
                                         
                                        to some fucking sad sack
                                         
                                        cunt so why just
                                         
                                        entertain me you worthless
                                         
                                        coked up piece of shit
                                         
                                        I forgot this isn't Patreon
                                         
    
                                        but anyway I'll stand by it
                                         
                                        I don't care
                                         
                                        yeah it's a shame
                                         
                                        because Tommy's a very good interviewer
                                         
                                        and I like what Tommy is he doesn't go
                                         
                                        for the joke straight away
                                         
                                        yeah no he's legitimately
                                         
                                        good and like the way that he could
                                         
    
                                        at the start when it was more
                                         
                                        unpredictable, that's when he was
                                         
                                        at his best because it showcased
                                         
                                        his ability. He could go funny
                                         
                                        or he could go serious and he could
                                         
                                        do both with, you know, relative
                                         
                                        ease. Whereas like
                                         
                                        now it seems like he's just coming on.
                                         
    
                                        He's probably getting more depressed
                                         
                                        doing the show. It's like, oh, definitely.
                                         
                                        There's no energy to it now, especially
                                         
                                        because there's no audience now to record about an audience.
                                         
                                        They basically get celebrity
                                         
                                        come out and just, the celebrity just basically
                                         
                                        performs the one act play about like,
                                         
                                        you know, like a friend of mine killed himself
                                         
    
                                        and I taught things to be bad
                                         
                                        but then I learned things weren't bad
                                         
                                        and Tommy, you know, there's not much to play around with
                                         
                                        that, Tommy has to be like, yeah, jeez, yeah.
                                         
                                        So you were a popular member of the Tri channel
                                         
                                        and had big Edinburgh shows
                                         
                                        but then it all went wrong. Yes, it did Tommy, yes.
                                         
                                        And some gay shoes you're wearing by the way.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, he's had, he has like some, I feel like he gets better guests than the late, late show.
                                         
                                        I feel like RT give him the good guests.
                                         
                                        Well, the ratings probably, I mean, it's still miles better than the late late show.
                                         
                                        But that's why the ratings are so big, because it was a welcome break from the late late show and the fucking just repetitive, depressing shit.
                                         
                                        But now it's slowly morphing into the same.
                                         
                                        I don't get me wrong, it's still better because it's Tommy Tiernan and, and,
                                         
                                        not fucking Ryan Poverty.
                                         
                                        That's producer's fault.
                                         
    
                                        It's producers' fault
                                         
                                        you're letting these sad people in the show.
                                         
                                        Sad people should be moving television.
                                         
                                        No, you're right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, unless they're very good at masking it
                                         
                                        and then they go off into the woods
                                         
                                        and we never see them again.
                                         
                                        That's fine.
                                         
    
                                        I can live with that.
                                         
                                        But, you know, we don't want any fucking boo-hoo sad cunts
                                         
                                        on the fucking tele crying
                                         
                                        about their problems.
                                         
                                        I don't give a fuck if Shane Dickhead Westlife
                                         
                                        fucking what's his name.
                                         
                                        You see the lad from Westlives like,
                                         
                                        My parents had cancer.
                                         
    
                                        It's like, I don't give a fuck.
                                         
                                        You're a multi-millionaire and everyone's parents of cancer.
                                         
                                        I don't give a fuck about you or your shitty parents.
                                         
                                        I'm just looking up to guests here of who he's had.
                                         
                                        They'll not Patreon.
                                         
                                        But whatever.
                                         
                                        He had Fogue Williams on.
                                         
                                        He didn't know who, um,
                                         
    
                                        he didn't know who she was and she could tell she was like raging.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        She's kind of,
                                         
                                        everyone seems to have forgotten her now,
                                         
                                        which is good.
                                         
                                        Um,
                                         
                                        so,
                                         
    
                                        the deaf person on the latest episode,
                                         
                                        Tommy did.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, and she was giving him shit.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, she was like,
                                         
                                        at first I thought you were hateful
                                         
                                        because I saw your comedy
                                         
    
                                        and I saw your show
                                         
                                        and I saw there's actually empathy in there.
                                         
                                        At first I saw your comedy show
                                         
                                        and I thought you were hateful.
                                         
                                        But then somebody put on the subtitles
                                         
                                        and I realized, ah, he's not that bad.
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay, I'll give him a go.
                                         
                                        That's what he should have said.
                                         
    
                                        See, put me in, put me in, coach.
                                         
                                        You need to be Tommy's hype, man.
                                         
                                        You need to be Tommy's hype,
                                         
                                        and he gives him shit.
                                         
                                        You're like, you're death.
                                         
                                        and your desk
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Boo, boo, boo, that's you that is
                                         
                                        I'm actually
                                         
                                        You look at Tommy
                                         
                                        Am I right Tommy
                                         
                                        To do good
                                         
                                        And he's like
                                         
                                        Please stop
                                         
                                        Who let you in here
                                         
    
                                        Where's Fred Cook
                                         
                                        I just have Fred tied up
                                         
                                        In his dressing room
                                         
                                        Like I'm holding Julie Jay hostage
                                         
                                        With a knife
                                         
                                        No no I'm not
                                         
                                        I'm not doing
                                         
                                        that. I actually, I've met both of them and I, you know, I know Julie a bit better. I met Fred
                                         
    
                                        once, but they're both lovely, very nice people. Yeah. And very funny. And I won't threaten them
                                         
                                        with a knife. So there, ha ha. Saved myself. It's sorted now back to normal. We're back to
                                         
                                        normal. It was a silly joke that went a bit wrong. But it's fine. I've made it work.
                                         
                                        all right that's it i'm getting the knife this time no jokes you push me to this
                                         
                                        we can laugh over this years from now while i'm wearing friends face
                                         
                                        you remember when you said we should we probably should have wrapped up a while ago
                                         
                                        but oh well cats out of the bag now yeah that's fun
                                         
                                        We make it silly.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Julie was actually very nice to me.
                                         
                                        Like, we did a couple of gigs together.
                                         
                                        She was mocking you, James.
                                         
                                        She was mocking you.
                                         
                                        She was, wasn't she?
                                         
                                        I knew it.
                                         
                                        I was a dog whistle.
                                         
    
                                        I can tell.
                                         
                                        And fucking Fred was really nice to me as well.
                                         
                                        Like, I was in a green room with him.
                                         
                                        And he was like, whereabouts and monny from?
                                         
                                        I said, Scotts Town.
                                         
                                        He's like, well, Scottsdown, do you know such and such?
                                         
                                        And apparently he was related to this woman who used to run the post office in my village,
                                         
                                        Scotstown so yeah
                                         
    
                                        it was nice you know Fred he never
                                         
                                        forgets the little people so
                                         
                                        that was nice you know I bet what happened
                                         
                                        I don't murder his family
                                         
                                        you know what I bet what happened
                                         
                                        that's the
                                         
                                        that's the takeaway from all of this
                                         
                                        no I bet okay his family are completely
                                         
    
                                        safe
                                         
                                        wait what did he say
                                         
                                        I bet what happened is Fred and Julie are
                                         
                                        beyond nice to yet and he'd be like oh you should come
                                         
                                        over to the house James okay and you'd be like
                                         
                                        oh really and you'd be like yeah yeah
                                         
                                        in fact we got some very interesting projects
                                         
                                        we'd like to be part of and you're like
                                         
    
                                        oh sweet and then you come over and you open the door big bucket of blood falls in your head
                                         
                                        and they all laugh at you and they all rip your dress you're wearing a dress by the way they rip
                                         
                                        your dress on oh oh little piggy why why are you doing this yeah they throw tampons at you as well
                                         
                                        yeah my mother's there drinking shardinay laugh and it's like they gave me free tickets to the show
                                         
                                        so ha ha ha
                                         
                                        that's how small
                                         
                                        his dick was when he was coming out of me
                                         
                                        the little queer
                                         
    
                                        mother please no
                                         
                                        the ultimate betrayal
                                         
                                        yes that's why
                                         
                                        don't talk to their comedians James
                                         
                                        just talk to me they'll make fun of you
                                         
                                        you're right I keep forgetting
                                         
                                        but I'm so glad I have you looking out for me Brian
                                         
                                        looking out for my best interest
                                         
    
                                        if Fred Cook ever approaches you
                                         
                                        just say stranger danger and walk away
                                         
                                        yeah okay i think uh that's a good way to end it yes it sure is yeah i think we should wrap up
                                         
                                        yeah we got a little silly and goofy on the comedy podcast where we say silly things
                                         
                                        that don't come true and if it should happen that something happens to them i was nowhere near it
                                         
                                        so there let's make that a matter of record public record
                                         
                                        yeah I'm innocent yes I'm just going to make sure that from now on every time I go
                                         
                                        into shop I'm going to like keep my receipt time stamped and dated it's like your honor if
                                         
    
                                        you'll allow me I have the following all right all right all right thank you good luck guys
                                         
                                        sure see you next week bye
                                         
