Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 110 : The Rocky Cadden Tiernan Show
Episode Date: April 6, 2021We talk Cherry, Rocky and why James would be great on the Tommy Tiernan Show...
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Brian and James Fugge at her are back for free episodes.
This is the one that changes it all, Brian.
This is where it all turns around for us.
This is when people finally stop and pay attention to us.
Yeah.
And they say, oh, they weren't racist.
They weren't awful, bitter, ugly people.
They actually were very satirical and they actually made very good points.
Nah.
Just watched Borat there.
Awesome.
Love Borat.
Watch it at least once a week.
Nah.
Classic stuff.
classic stuff.
You came up with the idea
of doing the impression, didn't you?
You were like,
someone should do an impression of that.
I'm pretty sure I invented
the concept of impressions
of shitty,
shitty impressions
that only half sound
like the people some of the time.
It don't have to be good
as long as you're loud.
That's why you've learned.
As long as your stupid,
loud voice bombasts
over the silence.
no one can tell the difference if you're at a party and you do a really loud borat impression who cares
if anyone else likes it you like it that's all that matters exactly yeah yeah how are you feeling james
good good yeah all good you know where are you i'm in dublin i'm in my house in dublin my bedroom
in glass nevin no i know it's probably i don't want to give away my address but i'm in glass nevin so
i'll give you that much if you want to come and find me you'll have to put the work in your
It's like Q drops. You drop little bits of information and the true fans can slowly piece together the puzzle of where you live. Jay drops. I'm jay dropping all over the place. How's Dublin these days with lockdown? Apparently lockdown will not end. No, it doesn't seem to be fucking ending anytime soon. It's actually the weather here. The last few days has been very nice. That's not mean. If people just being like fuck lockdown, we're going to take the shirt off and drink cans. Yeah, a lot of young ones are drinking and drink. And, yeah, a lot of young ones are drinking and.
And like I live pretty close to Albert Park.
So at night I can hear the young people out drinking and laughing.
And I kind of like to, you know, just drive around the perimeter of the park.
Just slowly peeking in through the fence.
Just like, oh, yeah.
Jesus.
I, you know, I used to do that myself, you know.
I used to try, you know, hang out in the park with girls in skimpy shorts,
laughing, having a good time.
I'm pretty much the same as them.
Sure, I'll tell you, I'll head over to them.
Should they know that I'm good crack?
They'll know, like, I'll be, I'll do anchorman quotes.
I'll let them know I'm good crack.
And like, you know, I'll have a few cans myself and like,
oh, what's the crack boys?
You're having the laugh.
Are you, Jay?
What is it?
Leaving cert?
Leave it cert.
I'm just the cool older guy.
Who's this chick you of age?
I don't care.
We're here to party, man.
No, because in your head, you're like,
I got to protect these people.
people. I've got to protect these beautiful angels. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like De Niro and taxi driver's
like, I don't want to make it. Don't you want to get out of here? Do something with your
life selling your tight little bushy everywhere. And then you act surprised you don't get your
taxi driver coats. You're talking to me. You're talking to you? No, please leave me
alone. I'm just trying to walk home. Even follow me for 12 minutes.
Please.
You're talking to me,
yeah.
You're talking to me.
Oh, God.
I don't do that.
No.
It would be wrong.
It would be very, very wrong.
So I don't do it.
See, on the Patreon episode,
he'd be like,
yeah, we do it.
But on the free episode,
I have to be like,
no,
it's wrong.
It's wrong and it's bad.
It's even worse.
No man can wear one face to himself
and another to the world
without forgetting
which is which.
Hawthorne, my friend.
But yeah.
So it seems like you're having a great time.
We're like double agents.
Seems like you're having a great time.
I'm really not.
No, I assure you.
That's just the, you know, lingering effects of a manic episode.
You know, I appear to be in good spirits,
but really I'm just in a state of mental disrepair.
But you realize you have all the pieces at hand.
You have like, you're in Dublin.
You have a cool job.
It's really a mindset, James.
It's not a cool job, though.
Well, I guess it sounds better than it is.
It's fine.
A lot of people do think it sounds,
a lot of people do think that you have an awesome life.
I kind of feel bad without telling you don't.
God, it's, yeah.
Look, no, it actually is a good job and I'm lucky to have it.
But I have to remind myself of that on a near hourly basis whenever I'm in there.
It's like, this is a good job.
You're lucky to have it.
It's pandemic.
You know, you're earning a enough.
to live just about.
I can afford rent and bills
and food. I don't
really splash out on anything because I can't.
But like, the money's not great.
The hours are fucking hectic.
It can be either really tedious
or really stressful.
So the best of both worlds. Look, it's a job.
A job's a job. You know, you're not meant to like
your job, really. And I don't.
So just work to you.
You're right. It is a mindset.
You know, I can make things better
at any moment.
If I choose to, but I don't.
That's the thing.
I know what I need to do to better myself.
I need to eat right and exercise and lose weight and get healthy and stop drinking and doing drugs and all those things.
But you know and I know that ain't going to happen because it's not in my nature.
The good of the frog, the frog is not always the good of the scorpion.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
And it doesn't help as well that I'm like, James, be happier.
mindset as if I'm doing any
those things. In fact, I'm living much worse
life than you. I'm still in college.
I'm just reliving my
like, yeah, I was happy
eight years ago when I started college. Let's do
it again. You weren't really though,
were you? You just were less miserable
or less obviously unhappy.
Yeah. I guess.
Yeah. Don't even know what I'm doing with my life.
Nobody does. Look, don't
worry about it. Nobody does.
Do I tell you there's an insurrection in
my group, in my college group?
Yeah, we're raising money for a women's charity.
That's what the treasure hunt was for.
How was the treasure hunt anyway?
Was it a success?
Nah, barely.
A lot of fuckheads don't know how riddles work.
And like, I kind of fuck myself over because, like, they were like, someone has to be charged
the riddles.
And I was like, I'll do it.
And they were all like, oh, Brian, riddles is a very difficult job.
Like, it's, you know, we've, maybe, maybe someone else should do it.
I was like, no, I'll do it.
I can do the riddles.
Yeah.
Like, I could barely do the riddles.
And what exactly did it entail?
Did you have to come up with the riddles?
No, they came up with the riddles.
They wouldn't let me come up with them.
They came up with the riddles.
So what?
I just send them out.
I just send them out and deal with the people asking me questions.
But like, I kind of fucked up immediately because like if something like you have to run
5K, you get a certain amount of riddles.
Who came up with that aspect of it?
Run 5K and solve a riddle.
Some one of the other girls.
But I kind of messed up.
It does sound like something.
one of them would come up with.
So I think
the way it worked is if you ran
4K you got two riddles
by accidentally sent out four riddles
and that was a whole
ordeal right there.
You sure
it's like an episode
of the fucking West Wing
Brian sent out four riddles
dear God
yeah everybody's just like walking
and talking down corridors
well who let Brian be in charge of riddles
he was a diversity hires sir
he was wearing glasses
we had to take him on board
so that was the first strike
that was the first strike against me
I was like oh fuck they're all going to take him an idiot now
I can't mess up this time I gotta keep
going and then your redemption
so then like it was going okay
I was dealing with all the people and people were like giving me
the weirdest answers like one answer
okay what's in the middle of Tokyo
think about this now
what's in the middle of Tokyo
okay all right okay
okay okay yeah that's the answer right yeah you answer it you get next one people were giving me like oh mountains
oh yeah people were sending me like like like those like actual like locations like oh this mountain or this
river and i was like uh i don't really know what to do here because they ran the k like they ran it
but they got the answer wrong what do we do here and i was asking them and they're like oh brian
just be easy if we just did it well well i mean what do you do i mean are you really going to tell
someone who, you know, ran
5K, but didn't get
a stupid question right, that
they can't, you know, participate
anymore. That is a bit of a fuck
you, isn't it? Yeah, and they've paid
to be part of this, by the way. Yeah,
and it's for charity and then
what, somebody's going to go, no, you
got the riddle wrong, so
you basically beat those women
yourself, you monster.
Go home, you're done.
It's like, fucking relax,
pal, will you? Yeah, so anyway, the final
If I were you, I just would have given them
the answers. I were like, yeah, here's the answer.
I don't care. Yeah, I would have been the cool guy,
like the good cop, like, oh, they don't want you to get to rid of us.
But hey, look, like you give me the answers.
Hey, look, I smoke grass.
Sure, everybody does.
I listen to bad company on my free time,
but you got to play it cool, Jack.
Yeah, I'm like, the cop comes in like, hey, look, you know,
that my daughter, her friends come around in their little dresses.
I think about sometimes. I wouldn't, you know,
wouldn't do it but I wouldn't do it but I'm a man I'm a man
alright I see these girls I mean
they're getting ready for grade school
I'm a man a red-blooded male
who wouldn't think about it but I don't do it because I'm a good
fucking guy so then the final the final straw was
I was kind of joking around because we got refund buttoned
on the go fund me page right so you could just press
that and then refund everyone's money so no one
none of the charities get any money wow
it's like a you got the
self-destruct button. The red button
that could detonate the nukes like
you know. And I was just joking around
with like, oh, I could press this and ruin everything.
Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah, but you
posted it. Yeah, I posted it.
Yeah. I kind of, I went
public with it. Yes, yeah.
Much like Julian Assange,
I went public with it and then
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They fake a rape
case against me. You're Chelsea
Manning.
Yeah, so then they locked me out with a
go fund me profile then.
So they booted you out then.
They were like, they changed the password.
They were like, ah, it's best if Brian's not around.
Let his grubby little fingers near it.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
So, are you going to like, you're not, what?
I'm going to do good at work over it.
No, your grades.
Will your grades be affected by a, no, no, because I've done my bit.
Like, it's a group project for the entire class.
so most people aren't even doing anything.
I just hope that like,
because I remember in college
when you did like the big group projects
and then don't you have to like
write up about it afterwards
how it went and all that there.
No, I've got the evidence I did the riddles.
Okay.
They can't fuck that over.
They can't fuck me over there.
You got receipts.
You got receipts.
I'll be glad to be done at this.
Doing the riddles doesn't feel like,
it doesn't feel like college, does it?
Yeah, I'm in charge.
charge of the riddles, you know, I don't think James Baldwin ever said that.
Do they really feel like, I say, I have to remind myself sometimes. I'm paying for this.
This is somehow supposed to help me get a job, as if like, I apply for a job anywhere.
I'm like, does anyone need riddles?
Well, like, here's the thing about college, right?
More and more, it's becoming like a fucking, it's a scam, really, because everybody goes to college.
everybody gets a level eight degree.
If everybody has it, it reduces the value or validity of the qualification.
Also, you know, every single person from the age of 18 up is going to college.
There aren't that many fucking jobs in this country, you know what I mean?
It's like a finite amount of resources and we're all scraping for it.
College is a fucking, it's like a fucking pyramid scheme, man.
con you know once upon a time it meant something to go to college but now it really doesn't like
people go to get shit face for a few years and get the ride and maybe get a job out of it probably
not though a lot of people just drop out yeah it's more daycare just to like teach people basic
social skills which didn't work for me yeah yeah i thought i'd be prom king after i made up the riddles
Yeah, yeah.
It's just like being a football star, isn't it?
I've got a riddle for you, Susie.
What's long and odd?
It gets bigger when you touch it.
That's right, talk about.
Yeah, I think the current system of college, it won't, it can't last.
It's bullshit.
It really is bullshit.
And like, you know, whatever about.
over here, it really doesn't matter that much because it's not all that expensive, you know,
it's like, what, like a couple of grand a year or whatever. Obviously, that varies. But like,
when you look at like the likes of America where it's a hundred grand a year, I mean, that's fucking,
that's insanity. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't get that at first. Because you know
the way on American TV shows you'd have jokes about like, oh, I'm still paying off my college
loans. Yeah, yeah. And then you look into it's like, yeah, obviously you're still like everyone's
pain after college zones.
Yeah, everybody is like in crippling financial debt
for really no good reason.
Like it doesn't, it really doesn't, you know,
it's not fiscally responsible to go to college, really.
Yeah, it's actually, you're literally better off taking opiates.
Yes.
Well, that's what most of them end up doing to cope with the stress of debt.
It's like, well, you're dead.
got cancelled the minute you
ODed on fentanyl. Well done.
Oh, wait, no, just joking.
Your grieving parents are we've given the
debt to them now. So, yeah, well done.
Yeah, well done. Not a wise investment.
Speaking of fentanyl addiction, I watched a film Cherry.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The Rooster Brothers film with Spider-Man in it.
Yeah. Yeah, how was that?
Terrible. Yeah.
Just embarrassing.
I saw the trailer and I was like,
this looks like dog shit.
like I could tell it was the kind of movie I would fucking hate
and just like kind of Gen Z shite like
you know just like really marketed at like TikTok kids or whatever you know
but the fact that it was the Russo brothers is depressing
because I like the Russo brothers you know they've they've done good stuff
well the story's interesting because it's based on a true story
this guy called Niso
yeah so what's the story lay it out for me there B man
laid out for me man B dog
okay so like there's this guy called
Nico, all right? And
he went to war, he got addicted
to the drugs afterwards. He had PTSD
if you believe in that thing.
And then he started robbing banks.
Which doctor's shit
is it? voodoo. Voodoo
nonsense, all right?
Okay, so
PTSD is kind of like your life, James.
It's like, just look at it differently, okay?
Yeah,
look, yeah, you're having
horrific flashbacks of
war, but what if you just had
a flashback of a pretty rainbow
for flowers and puppies
change your outlook.
So Nico Walker is his name
okay and it was a big story
because he went to jail and he wrote
a book in prison. He wrote a book called Cherry
about his life Robin Banks
and then it became a big thing
immediately because it's a good selling point
to be like this guy wrote the book in prison.
Yeah and he's an ex
you know it's got a lot of hooks
It's got, you know, ex-military, PTSD, you know, opiate addiction, bank robbery.
It's a lot of sensationalist stuff, you know?
Yeah, it's all relevant, though.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
Yeah, and I think he exaggerated, like, I think it's, I think it's, the book is semi-fictional.
I think he only robbed a few banks, but in the book, he robs way more.
So I walked into the bank holding a gun and my nine-inch cock.
Yeah, he exaggerating a little bit.
well it was cold that day
funny if he was like yeah
exaggerated a tiny bit
and he just like printed out
the screenplay for heat
let's call him
Nico Pacino
and in the book he's like
so then me and Val Kilmer
were running around
and Kilmer got shot
but I wouldn't leave him behind
okay so
he published this book
it was like an overnight
a big publishing sensation
and then the Rousseau
has bought the rights for a million dollars
which is kind of fuck all really
yeah I mean but if you're in prison
oh wait did he what the book got published
while he was still in prison
yeah or like he wrote it in prison
and he got out and he got published
okay but I figure like if it got published
then it's a big success
well I don't know I really don't know
how these things work million dollars
seems low but whatever I think it was like
a million dollars but also you get like
points. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't think
he got scammed. I don't think the Roosutters wrote him a check on like
a napkin. They're like, yeah, it's, that's legal, that is.
You big PTSD freak.
Go on, Dad's Army, on your bike.
So they made this film and there was real Oscar buzz
when they were making it. Because I saw the trailer
and I know you can't really tell a lot from the
killer, but no, it just looked like pop rocks and candy type movie making, you know?
Yeah, they're trying to be cool. Feature Lance music video.
Yeah, we'll get into that, but there's a lot of stuff in the filmmaking where it's like, oh,
you're really trying here. That's embarrassing. But there was a lot of Oscar buzz and like the
Rousseauber's like, yeah, this is a very serious film for us because we come from town that
was ravaged by fentanyl. So this is like, this is us. This is a message. We're hoping this can
raise awareness for the issue
and we think this is
this is going to be a very powerful film
and then it came out and it was shite
okay
and weirdly enough no one
no one liked it
okay good
because you think that there be a few people
who'd be like well you know
it's an important message so we
you know it's not great but
I like Spider-Man
no everyone just agreed it was kind of shite
very boring
okay yeah so get into what was so
shite about it. So it's kind of just boring,
was it, the story? Very repetitive.
So what happens is, it starts off with this
guy, Tom, let's call him Spider-Man,
okay? Spider-Bitch.
Sergeant Spider-Man.
So,
in the film, he's called Cherry.
Why? Because the book's called Cherry, James.
Why?
I don't know. Probably he wrote
like, oh, that's an interesting
name, isn't it? No, it's not.
Is there no reason why he's called
Cherry. No, I don't think so. If there was, I missed it because I was bored.
Right. Okay. I was probably something like he liked cherries as a kid and cherries represent
innocence. Are they popped as cherry? Part of you, there's a lot of rape in the military.
Yeah, there is like, like male and female rape. Like dudes get raped in there too.
Oh, really? Yeah, that's what I hear. Well, my sources.
That's why fantasize about. The Reddit, the subredits I subscribe to. They've never
steered be wrong before. So anyway
so Tom Holland,
I'm not going to call him Cherry because that's too dumb.
Tom Holland, okay?
He's just a regular kid.
He likes a bit of drug sometimes.
He's in college. He's not doing well.
He falls in love with a beautiful girl
on site called Emily.
Yeah, and it's like...
He's a bit of a fuck-up in sites to go to war.
Yeah, that'll sort you out.
Yeah, yeah. The Iraq...
Gee, you know, I remember.
really struggle
with the academic thing
what should I
I'll go to war
that'll sort me out
help me concentrate
hearing loads of
explosions and my friend
get blown up
that'll help me
it's time
I buckle down
and fly right
that'll help me
with my essays
so yeah
it's a pretty basic
story I'll run
I'm not going to go
to the whole plot
I'll just run through it
so he goes to the army
he sees people
getting blown up
and he's like
oh now I feel bad
surprise surprise surprise
he goes home
he gets addicted to drugs
Michael Gandalfini
is one of his friends
Oh is he in it much
Not much
Yes I'm very interested
Just just I haven't seen him act yet
Because I haven't watched that and he's in
But don't watch this
He is an actor
In some things he's good
He's good in the deuce
Because he plays a bit of a loser
Right
Yeah I get you
So like he
He gets addicted to the drugs
And his girlfriend's like
Oh stop that
But then she gets stick to the drugs as well
That'll shut her up
Problem solved
That's great
Now
Is it
Is it just like
Kind of
What do you call it
Percocet and OxyCotin
Or do they do like
Straight heroin
There's a bit heroin in it
There's like
Coke and stuff
There's a really weird scene
In it
Where their drug dealer
In it is called
He's called Coke and Pills
That's his name
Coke and Pills
Yeah that's his name
Bit on the nose
Yeah, and he's played by
Jack Rainer. The Irish guy.
Yeah, yeah, you like him, don't you? I like him.
Yeah, I mean, he was good in what Richard did,
and I liked him in there free fire as well
that Ben Wheatley film, he was good in that.
Yeah. I hated him in Sing Street,
but I hated everything about Sing Street.
He played the cool brother.
No, I fucking hated that film. I was shy.
Sing Street is the one guy, isn't it?
I don't even care.
That's right, Brian.
I'm saying it.
What?
Yeah.
But Glenn Hanser.
No secret, no sick.
Glenn Hansard.
He groomed that bitch.
He like met her when she was 14.
No, no, no.
13 James.
You don't like me bringing it up.
But that's the truth.
My mate.
He met the, what happened was he was walking through the park one day.
He saw a pregnant woman and he was like,
I'm going to be friends with your baby.
And he started serend.
in her in the
like the fetus through the uteril wall
take this
shrinking cock
and stuff it
all we still got
anyway sorry
go on so anyway
this is a weird scene so he goes to
the house the drug dealer played by
Jack Rayner
yeah yep and there's drugs
coke and pills there's drugs
all over the kitchen all right
like his proper drugs lab everywhere
He's not even trying to hide it, okay?
And then his sister who lives with him comes down.
She's like, oh, what's that?
Is that candy?
And his sister has Down syndrome.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, but it's like, surely she's seen these drugs before.
Yes, she's like coming down.
Like, he's got a fully functional meth lab in his kitchen.
I was just powder everywhere.
And she comes down, it's sweeties.
It's like, yeah, yeah.
She does this act every day.
She's like, oh, what's this?
You know what it is.
You're getting free shit.
It's like 50 first dates.
Fifty first date rapists.
I don't know.
Whatever.
Yeah.
So then she's like, oh, are those sweets?
And Jack Rainer's like, yeah, they're sweets.
Yeah.
And he goes to Tom Holland.
Like, she'll give her the sweets.
He he, he, ha, ha, ha.
Yeah.
Go on, Jack.
Yeah.
He has a needle, a syringe, okay?
And he goes, here comes the airplane.
And he puts in her mouth.
But it's not like, he doesn't like,
injector, it's not like a needle, is it?
You can squirter a bit into her mouth.
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Syringe full of liquid.
It's just messing about, you know?
I was going to say that's the only good scene.
It's not exactly good, but it's only like, well, that's somewhat interesting.
It's interesting.
It peaks, yeah, it picks your, it gets your attention.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the rest of it, he just rose banks for a while, and then the bank robberies go
wrong and he goes to jail.
Right.
Okay.
It's not, it's literally not, there's nothing happens in it.
Does he get turned out?
Like a little bitch.
No, we missed that.
Maybe he does, because he goes to jail and he comes out with a mustache.
So what does that employ?
I think we can all read between the lines there.
Yeah.
There's a lot of stuff in the film where it feels like even the directors got bored,
so just start adding stuff to it.
Like, they change the aspect ratio when he goes to war.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
It's so fucking, that's like so hacky and dumb.
And it's just like they literally couldn't think of anything else.
It's like, oh, we'll change the aspect ratio to convey his claustrophobia and suffocation of his situation.
Beb, be, be, be, b, b, b, b, b. Well done. Dickhead.
Fucking retards, sorry. That always annoys me when I see it in films.
Also, his girlfriend in it looks about 12.
Oh, well, hey, just when I thought I was out.
You'll pull me back in.
He's like, Tom Holland looks fairly young, but like he just,
about pulls it off, even though it's a lot of times
when he's talking about war, you're like, you didn't go to war,
you're fucking Spider-Man. But like, she
looks really young. And there's a
one, and there's lots of like scenes where they
sexualize her, but it feels like
it's like, like a gay guy
thinking what hetero people think
is sexy. Oh, really?
Yeah, like it's a bit where he's in the army
and he's, he's jacking off.
And he says, he, he, when he's in the
army jacking off, he never told about anyone
else, only beautiful Emily.
That is gay. Yeah. I'm sorry.
When he fantasises about her, it's her on a swing with a bra.
Oh, what the fuck?
We're on a bra.
That's what guys are thinking about.
Oh, she's on a swing.
She's a swing.
He's like, yeah, that's like, that's a fantasy, Vladimir Novakoff would come up with.
Like that highbrow reference?
Yeah.
Highbrow pito jokes, people.
That's what you get.
You try your best.
I had it written on my hand.
Vladimir Naboky.
Nabokov, what?
So, and it was very boring.
I don't even want to talk about it anymore.
Didn't like it.
I watched loads of films this week, James.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, I want to come into America.
Coming to America.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it was the second one.
Yeah, it's a clever title.
That's all I need.
I see that title.
I'm already laughing.
It's the number two,
and it's the bloody second one.
but you'd use the word in coming to
oh that's geniuses
it's very multi-layered
in it, very cerebral
oh tough to ask
I don't even have time to watch the film
I'm just too busy laughing to myself
and that's Lily turns in the tears
so how was coming to
America? Pretty boring
yeah
I kind of felt like a TV pilot
I've kind of heard it was a bit of a misfire
no it's not it's not
it's not like bad about it per se
like it's not even something you can hate on
just feels like oh yeah
it's a bit of no tits in it
oh wow
but Leslie Jones does get eating out at one stage
it's as well she's implied she's eating out
Jesus Christ
Who you're gonna call
I actually like Leslie Jones
She gets a lot of shit and it's really not
She's all right in this film
She's funny like she's genuinely funny
I think but
She just gets hated on so much
It's as well
I re-watched
Raging Bull there
a couple of days ago
fucking incredible man
it actually is so fucking good
I think it might be his best film
I watch Rocky 5
and I fucking
both watching boxing films
you watch Rocky 5
yeah watch Rocky 5
and Balboa
that's so funny
because like
my roommates
well like it's
Leanne and Evan
they're watching
all the Rockies
really watch Rocky 5
yeah I swear to God
yeah
and like I
I seen all the Rockies when I was a kid, right?
The first one is like a, you know, legitimately decent film.
It's not incredible, but it's solid.
You know, it works.
Underdog story, the whole thing.
But it, I just forgot just how farcical it gets almost immediately.
From the second movie onwards, it just is absurd.
And that fifth movie is legitimately one of the biggest piles of dog shit that has ever been committed to cellulose.
Oh, really?
And I only kind of walk.
in and out of the kitchen a couple of times.
Oh, I swear, yeah, yeah.
And, like, it's just like,
I got problems, okay?
I got problems.
You got a win, Rocky.
You got a win.
You got no heart.
Like, it's just like the most fucking expositional bullshit is like,
I got these feelings in my brain and my heart.
And his little fucking annoying dweeby son is like,
yeah, the kids are bullying me,
but I'm going to learn to be tough and stick up for myself.
Hey, you're smoking cigarettes now?
What are you shucking cock, do?
You want that crack, brock, you little fuck.
But I don't know.
Yeah, it's terrible.
That kid died.
Yeah, he did.
Well, you know, no good deed goes on punished.
And the fighter he trained is at died of AIDS.
The machine gun, Tommy.
Yeah, yeah.
What's the name again, Machine Gun Tommy or something?
Tommy Gun.
Yeah, Tommy Gun.
Yeah, he got AIDS.
Well, the scythe is swift and mercy.
There's some good stuff in it though
What about the bit in the car park
Where he hits Don King
I didn't I didn't see that bit
I haven't seen it since I was a kid
I was just kind of in the I was like in the kitchen
Like kind of making some dinner
I could just hear it in the background
So yeah fair enough I wasn't watching it properly
But just the bits I was present for
Just were horrific like really bad
Well even Stallone kind of says
Yeah the fifth one was kind of shit
Whereas like
two, three and four
cinematic masterpieces
Yeah, yeah
Just fucking perfect
Dog shit
The whole fucking franchise is dog shit
Have you watched Creed?
No
Creed's good
Yeah I heard Creed is good
So I'll
You know
I'm not gonna
Rocky gets
Hopkins lymphoma
Lymphona
He gets sick
Yeah
Yeah
Hodgkins lymphoma
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he gets sick and he's like, I'm not going to fight you. He's going to let, he's not going to do the chemo. But then Creed convinces him to do chemo. He's like, you fight in the ring. Now you got, this is your biggest fight. The hospital.
I told you, I don't have my wallet on me, kid. Leave me alone, please. Oh. Actually, Creed isn't that good. Whoever told you it is lying.
Yeah, I kind of heard, like, I heard anytime somebody mentions Creed, it's always like, you know, it's actually quite good. You know,
But it's with that inflection
It's like, you know, it's not bad.
It's actually okay.
It's actually not horrific.
It's actually not as terrible as I thought it would be.
It was serviceable.
It's what people mean when they say that.
The Rocky stuff is good because Stallone wrote the dialogue and that.
But I think like Michael B. Jordan's a good actor,
but the character in it is a little bit too perfect, I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because Rocky works because he's a big dummy.
And he couldn't work.
anywhere else you know he couldn't get an office job no where michael b jordan like at start he works
in like a company a regular company and he just like fights on the weekends down in mexico for fun like
okay like fight club yeah like that well they're not it's not like illegal fights just down in
mexico or laws a little bit more lax sure yeah yeah and then he's like i want to fight jordan versus
a chicken and then he's like oh i got a fight to impress my dad even though
like he's he's an affair baby
his dad didn't look after him at all
oh and his dad's
Apollo creed is that yeah yeah so his dad
didn't raise him at all his dad like just
fuck some random girl and then
like got killed by a Russian and then
you know Michael B. Jordan's like
I got to do for my dad's legacy
even though I've never really met him
and he disowned me
he's basically like Eddie Murphy
and Scary Spice's baby
and I was like
Eddie was like after about 12 years
that he was like, all right, fine.
You can live in the pool
house, but keep it down.
You know?
And in the first
Creed movie, he has to fight,
he has to fight a scouser,
a Liverpool guy, and they fight in
Goodison Park in Everton's
stadium.
Okay. And I was actually more rooting
for the scouser, to be honest.
I'm going to fucking knock your block off,
you fucking dirty bastard.
Yeah, and the rush, the, the scouser's
making,
good points. He's like, you're a fake creed.
You're a phony creed. There's the fucking line, boys.
You're a phony creed.
Yeah. And then the second creed, he fights
Drago's son.
Oh, right. But you're actually kind of rooting for
Drago's son, because Drago's son is almost like
his dad's making a fight to prove a point.
Is it, what's his name in it? Is he back in it?
Yeah, Longgren. Original. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And his wife sent back there, you know,
Bridget Nielsen.
Oh, yeah. She's back in it. She's the main
villain in it. How's she looking?
Great, because she's big in the plastic surgery.
Oh, okay. Yeah. I was that a weird thing for
Bridget Nielsen. Ever since I saw Beverly Hills cop
too as a kid. And then I saw her titty's and celebrity big
brother. I was like, yes, please.
You saw it in like someday. Could be something to read into
there. There could be the slight androgy thing. She's tall, broad
shoulders, big titty, short
hair. I just want it all
Brian, that's what I want. I want
Dolph Lundgren and Pamela Anderson
to fuck me at the same time.
So who better than
Bridget Nielsen? She perfectly embodies
both those two people at once.
Oh man. You know she
slept with Stallone and
Arnold? Oh yeah.
She was married to Stallone.
Wow. That's what I call
a hero sandwich.
Whoa.
And she was an alcoholic.
Sex.
Yeah, she was in Dr. Drew's
Celebrity Rehab thing.
That's such a cool life.
You know who else had a really cool life?
You know in the first Rocky,
he talks to that random girl
and he's like,
you're a fucking whore.
You should be off the streets.
Yeah, vaguely.
Yeah, I remember that little girl,
it's not little.
Like, she's like a teenager
and he's like walking with her going like,
oh, you know, you walk around
with these little dresses.
What do you expect?
You got respect yourself.
you got to stop dressing like that.
Slot shaming.
Yeah.
She's from Belfast.
What the fuck away from me?
You droopy-eyed, lock and con.
No, I looked drop out of interest.
She's from Belfast and she moved.
Basically, these Hollywood producers came over to Ireland
and they were like, we're going to pick three children
to bring back with us.
Nice.
It's like, so they had to outbid the Catholic Church.
They, dollar two, dollar two, dollar three, number three,
number three, da, blah, blah, blah.
yeah okay so they picked like the three best children they could find and it brought them over
and then they were like yeah you can you can you can be actors now and we'll be your agents
and then she ends up being Danny DeVito's a babysitter
interesting she was the bait for a dying of Vito and the woman from Cheers she looked after
the kids oh okay so that's a pretty cool life acting didn't really work out for her then
no this is like part time what else was she ever in uh Rocky Balboa
she came back in da.
Oh, God.
How's she looking?
Grand.
What's her name?
Not a mess.
She didn't look like a mess.
I'll look her up now, James.
We can gawk at her.
Yeah, do it.
Well, you'll gawk.
And I'll just have you describe her to me.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how I like to get off.
Geraldine Hughes.
Geraldine Hughes.
Yeah.
Yeah, she is from Belfast, isn't she?
Oh, and she's in Grand Tarino.
She had a lot of makeup on.
One of the Asian gang members.
Let me tell you something about you Belfast, bitches.
I used to kill Belfast who was like you in North Korea.
I don't think any of that's right, mystery.
So I'd keep rolling.
This is gold.
She's had the career, I wouldn't mind,
where she's just been a working actress since the 80s.
And she's never been like big,
but she's done like law and order,
SVU and regular law and order.
All she had to do is just,
wank off Danny DeVito once a month
you know that's a good deal
that's you do that for free like
oh yeah
so what are we talking about oh yeah creed
creed too uh so
I like all the Rocky films
yeah I mean you like them but you
realize they're not actually good though
you always got plans for more Rockies
it's actually impressive that he has just been
like the start of his career
and the end of his career
and it's all a Rocky.
Obviously there's other stuff peppered in there,
but I mean, it is Rocky
that puts the food on his table, you know?
So there's a whole cinematic universe now.
So the plan is there's going to be Creed Tree.
And then it's going to be a separate film starring Rocky
where Rocky finds an immigrant
and then teaches the immigrant how to fight.
Isn't that like reverse karate kid?
Basically, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be
It's going to be
Mexicans
It's going to be
A border crisis
It's going to be
very topical
Oh, okay
And then he's going to do
a Rocky TV series
Life is like a taco
All right
I try to fit all the stuff
in it and a taco
But it thought all fit
But you got to make a fit
Because this life
He's going to push you down
And give you the shit
Like bad taco meat
You got to fight back
What are you talking about
Mr Stallone
Though I continue
they've got the hedges.
They don't got hedges, man.
And then he's going to do a Rocky TV show,
a prequel about Rocky as a kid.
Pebble. They'll call it pebble.
Pebbley.
Eh, eh, eh, eh.
Go on, keep up.
So he's got big plans for Rocky.
Okay. That's good. I'm glad.
It's good days working.
You know, his mother only died like a year ago.
Yeah.
was still active. Man, she looked like patient zero for plastic surgery. Like, she looks like
she just went into a lab as like, you know, we're just going to try some stuff out. We're just
going to fling shit at the wall and see what sticks. Her face by the end of it was a fucking
disaster, man. Like a Chernobyl abortion. It was horrific. It was awful. Oh, no. Take a look at it.
if you get a chance. I'm looking up now, James. I can't
disagree. Jackie Stallone. No, nobody could disagree.
I mean, that was an absolute fucking
train wreck.
Like, plastic trash is getting bare.
You're right.
Asterix, but not Jackie Stallone.
Yeah. You're right. Back then, it was kind of
freestyles. Like, we'll try this.
Like contemporary jazz. Yeah.
I'm the John Cole train
of plastic surgeons.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. Oh, God.
It's kind of hard to tell
what age she is
because
Yes, that's the thing
And you know what
Stallone is the same
Like
Stallone is in his 70s
He doesn't look
Like he's in his 70s
But he also doesn't look
Human
So I guess
That's good
You know
Oh no
I didn't know this
She was in Celebrity Big Brother
With Bridget Nielsen
That's right
Yeah yeah
And that was the whole big thing
It's like
Oh I'm here with my ex-mother-in-law
but Bridget Eilsson got all boozed up
and showed her tiddies in the hot tub
pretty awesome
Did you see it?
Yeah, she did yeah
I did I saw them
Both of them
All present and accounted for
Yeah I'm pretty sure
I saw her titt yeah I'm pretty sure
I hope so
I'm going to look at just a dream
I'm seeing them but not on big brother
Oh I am I'm seeing him
Yes
Wow
Yeah I'm glad we got to some
tape. We got my life reaction to
seeing them. And you know what? Your
reaction was perfectly
acceptable. That's exactly
how someone should react
to Bridget Nielsen's tidies. It's like
oh yeah, there they are.
Yeah. Yep. I should have done a real like
like, oh, wowzers.
Like, read over the top.
You just like get up and walk
around the room.
Yeah. Yeah, I throw the
mic down.
You just like
slap your
knee with the mic like Chappelle.
What else was? I mean, watching the Tommy Tiernan show.
Oh, good. You know, I've never actually watched that. And I realize it's definitely,
I mean, it's good and it's definitely the best thing that RTE are doing currently.
But I haven't sat down and give it a proper go.
It's kind of a, it's gone weird because I feel like at the start, Tommy would have a few,
like, interesting interviews where people would open up and get a little sad.
I feel like now guests go on expecting that to happen.
Right, yeah.
So, yeah, I do kind of see everyone was like so brave,
such and such on Tommy Turing and talking about mental health
or sexual abuse survivors or blah, blah, blah.
Whereas, like, the original gimmick of the show was like,
it could be funny, it could be serious.
We don't know until the interview starts.
We don't know who it is.
That was the little gimmick of it.
whereas now people just kind of come
up, come in with their sob story
written on a napkin ready to go
and Tommy's just like
Jesus, that's Tara. I feel like
you know the way with Howard Stern
everyone was like, oh, he's going to ask me lots of juicy
questions so I better have some
like some stuff ready. You know, he's going to
ask me about sex and money and
drugs, so I better get those stories ready
because that's what Howard wants to hear.
I feel like a lot of these actors in Tommy Tieran the show
they're like he's probably going to want to hear about
the abuse. So I better start
off with that straight away before he even says
hello. Like, Brenda Flickr was
Rod Hall like in real life? Yeah, he raped me.
Oh, okay. I wasn't
so many of the guests
on it are just sad before it even
starts. Like Brenda Flickr came on, you know her?
Yeah, the pigeon lady from home alone. Yeah, yeah. She got
on the show and you swear to God you would take her
shoelaces away. Like she came on and it looked like she was going to
kill herself any second. Really?
Yeah, she was so depressed on it.
And she immediately was like, yeah, it's doing well.
I got the new antidepressants and I like to stare at the wall.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
What, I mean, she must be a right old age now.
She looks old and sad.
She still got a career though, isn't she?
No, she says she doesn't want to act anymore.
She's just wants to stay in her house and she's like going outside.
And she just feels very depressed all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
She'll be a good guest on Fallon.
do your wheel of impressions
here's my impression of Robin Williams
oh I can actually do this one
hand me a belt please
yeah it's so weird
they got like they keep getting guests on
and they'd be like you know I work in the zoo
and I teach penguins how to play the piano
and Tommy would be like that's great
he's like yeah
well you know after my father died
and it's like oh okay
here we go
Yeah, they had that fucking
prick, or maybe this was the
late late show. See, that's the thing, that's what I don't
like now. It's becoming pretty
hard to discern from
the Tommy Tiernan show or the late
late show. It's kind of, they're both
going very samey,
you know, obsessed over morose
tragic bullshit. It's like,
yeah, we're all fucking depressed
and miserable and all of our
loved ones are dead. I'm watching
the fucking telly to forget all that
shit. You tubbered
you're never going to say anything poignant enough
to warrant me listen to you talk
to some fucking sad sack
cunt so why just
entertain me you worthless
coked up piece of shit
I forgot this isn't Patreon
but anyway I'll stand by it
I don't care
yeah it's a shame
because Tommy's a very good interviewer
and I like what Tommy is he doesn't go
for the joke straight away
yeah no he's legitimately
good and like the way that he could
at the start when it was more
unpredictable, that's when he was
at his best because it showcased
his ability. He could go funny
or he could go serious and he could
do both with, you know, relative
ease. Whereas like
now it seems like he's just coming on.
He's probably getting more depressed
doing the show. It's like, oh, definitely.
There's no energy to it now, especially
because there's no audience now to record about an audience.
They basically get celebrity
come out and just, the celebrity just basically
performs the one act play about like,
you know, like a friend of mine killed himself
and I taught things to be bad
but then I learned things weren't bad
and Tommy, you know, there's not much to play around with
that, Tommy has to be like, yeah, jeez, yeah.
So you were a popular member of the Tri channel
and had big Edinburgh shows
but then it all went wrong. Yes, it did Tommy, yes.
And some gay shoes you're wearing by the way.
Yeah, he's had, he has like some, I feel like he gets better guests than the late, late show.
I feel like RT give him the good guests.
Well, the ratings probably, I mean, it's still miles better than the late late show.
But that's why the ratings are so big, because it was a welcome break from the late late show and the fucking just repetitive, depressing shit.
But now it's slowly morphing into the same.
I don't get me wrong, it's still better because it's Tommy Tiernan and, and,
not fucking Ryan Poverty.
That's producer's fault.
It's producers' fault
you're letting these sad people in the show.
Sad people should be moving television.
No, you're right.
Yeah, unless they're very good at masking it
and then they go off into the woods
and we never see them again.
That's fine.
I can live with that.
But, you know, we don't want any fucking boo-hoo sad cunts
on the fucking tele crying
about their problems.
I don't give a fuck if Shane Dickhead Westlife
fucking what's his name.
You see the lad from Westlives like,
My parents had cancer.
It's like, I don't give a fuck.
You're a multi-millionaire and everyone's parents of cancer.
I don't give a fuck about you or your shitty parents.
I'm just looking up to guests here of who he's had.
They'll not Patreon.
But whatever.
He had Fogue Williams on.
He didn't know who, um,
he didn't know who she was and she could tell she was like raging.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's kind of,
everyone seems to have forgotten her now,
which is good.
Um,
so,
the deaf person on the latest episode,
Tommy did.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and she was giving him shit.
Really?
Yeah, she was like,
at first I thought you were hateful
because I saw your comedy
and I saw your show
and I saw there's actually empathy in there.
At first I saw your comedy show
and I thought you were hateful.
But then somebody put on the subtitles
and I realized, ah, he's not that bad.
Yeah, okay, I'll give him a go.
That's what he should have said.
See, put me in, put me in, coach.
You need to be Tommy's hype, man.
You need to be Tommy's hype,
and he gives him shit.
You're like, you're death.
and your desk
Yeah
Yeah
Boo, boo, boo, that's you that is
I'm actually
You look at Tommy
Am I right Tommy
To do good
And he's like
Please stop
Who let you in here
Where's Fred Cook
I just have Fred tied up
In his dressing room
Like I'm holding Julie Jay hostage
With a knife
No no I'm not
I'm not doing
that. I actually, I've met both of them and I, you know, I know Julie a bit better. I met Fred
once, but they're both lovely, very nice people. Yeah. And very funny. And I won't threaten them
with a knife. So there, ha ha. Saved myself. It's sorted now back to normal. We're back to
normal. It was a silly joke that went a bit wrong. But it's fine. I've made it work.
all right that's it i'm getting the knife this time no jokes you push me to this
we can laugh over this years from now while i'm wearing friends face
you remember when you said we should we probably should have wrapped up a while ago
but oh well cats out of the bag now yeah that's fun
We make it silly.
Yeah.
Julie was actually very nice to me.
Like, we did a couple of gigs together.
She was mocking you, James.
She was mocking you.
She was, wasn't she?
I knew it.
I was a dog whistle.
I can tell.
And fucking Fred was really nice to me as well.
Like, I was in a green room with him.
And he was like, whereabouts and monny from?
I said, Scotts Town.
He's like, well, Scottsdown, do you know such and such?
And apparently he was related to this woman who used to run the post office in my village,
Scotstown so yeah
it was nice you know Fred he never
forgets the little people so
that was nice you know I bet what happened
I don't murder his family
you know what I bet what happened
that's the
that's the takeaway from all of this
no I bet okay his family are completely
safe
wait what did he say
I bet what happened is Fred and Julie are
beyond nice to yet and he'd be like oh you should come
over to the house James okay and you'd be like
oh really and you'd be like yeah yeah
in fact we got some very interesting projects
we'd like to be part of and you're like
oh sweet and then you come over and you open the door big bucket of blood falls in your head
and they all laugh at you and they all rip your dress you're wearing a dress by the way they rip
your dress on oh oh little piggy why why are you doing this yeah they throw tampons at you as well
yeah my mother's there drinking shardinay laugh and it's like they gave me free tickets to the show
so ha ha ha
that's how small
his dick was when he was coming out of me
the little queer
mother please no
the ultimate betrayal
yes that's why
don't talk to their comedians James
just talk to me they'll make fun of you
you're right I keep forgetting
but I'm so glad I have you looking out for me Brian
looking out for my best interest
if Fred Cook ever approaches you
just say stranger danger and walk away
yeah okay i think uh that's a good way to end it yes it sure is yeah i think we should wrap up
yeah we got a little silly and goofy on the comedy podcast where we say silly things
that don't come true and if it should happen that something happens to them i was nowhere near it
so there let's make that a matter of record public record
yeah I'm innocent yes I'm just going to make sure that from now on every time I go
into shop I'm going to like keep my receipt time stamped and dated it's like your honor if
you'll allow me I have the following all right all right all right thank you good luck guys
sure see you next week bye