Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 117 : Dead Room Mate
Episode Date: May 28, 2021You wanna play a game? Also Paul Mooney...
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whoa yeah let's go
we're back
two mad dogs are back
Brian and James
How you doing
James
I am very tired
under slet
You did say this
was gonna be a grumpy one
Yeah
I'll be grumpy
Yeah
More so than usual
No I just
Do you ever get it like
Where you just can't sleep
Where it's like
You're just lying there
It's like you feel tired
And you want to go to sleep
But it just will not happen
So you're just lying there
For hours and hours
Well I've given up fighting there
Yeah
but it's like you can't even watch anything or read anything you're just like kind of stuck in this horrible limbo
you're just sort of you sure you can watch something no no like i just feel like i just like i'm so fucking like wrecked that i can't even focus or concentrate on it
so i just turn it off and then i just lie there it's pretty horrible that sounds like literally i'm not even joking worse than death
it kind of is yeah yeah no it was awful uh so yeah i'm under slept i got another
I woke up with like a real sore jaw,
so I think I was like plenching or grinding in my sleep.
I don't know.
It's not been a good day for cab.
That doesn't sound fun.
No, I'm not feeling the best.
But you know what?
I'm here now and I'm going to rise above it
and give these people the content they deserve.
You're going to put on a smile.
Smile, though your heart is breaking.
Now, I don't want to be the guy who connects two things
that shouldn't be connected.
I do remember you saying that you got vaccinated.
That's true, yeah.
Is there a possibility they've put nanobots in you?
Possibly, yeah.
Who knows, man, who knows?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm never, like, I've never been an anti-vax kind of guy, but like, it's just
when there's so much out there of like, nanobots and it's depopulation agenda 21 build
gates.
It's like, fuck, maybe, who knows, you know, maybe they put some shit in me and I'll be
dead in five years but like I mean come on who care like let's be honest it's not getting better folks
what what were you going to do what were you going to achieve that you being dead within a decade
really impacts I mean it it who cares you know it's fine if if they've injected me with some
poison and I'll be dead soon if this is my Tuskegee experiment I'll take it you know it is what
it is well the thing is I know Spotify are cracking down on anti-vax content okay so
we're going to say we're pro-vax
even though I'm not
and people have honestly died
but I'd rather they die
than me
get in trouble with Mr. Spotify
Like I'm not
particularly keen on it but I've got
the first dose I will get the
second dose because it means I get
to go down the booze
with the lads and it's bloody worth it
yeah it's not really but like I'm not gonna
they're gonna bring in the vaccine
passport and shit so it's like
fuck it I might as well
yeah I took it
the rumor is it'll be
a mandatory vaccine
you won't be able to do anything without it
yeah yeah yeah yeah
you won't even be able to wank
no you won't
good that's good though
because I haven't been able to get it up
for years now so
and now yeah
and it'll be a yearly thing
you have to get your
oh really that's what the men
on the computer are saying
okay
but I wouldn't say that
because I don't want to piss off Spotify
Mr Spotify yeah look
I mean
he's a
oh what's his name
name again. He goes Daniel.
There's something because he was
trying to buy Arsenal a while ago.
Daniel Spotify was. Yeah, yeah.
Danny Spots.
Yeah. I spot to you.
We love you. Spotsie. We do.
Tell you what, a lot of people who are scared
to get the vaccine, James. So lay it down.
What was it like getting it? It was
very nonchalant. It was just
like I went into my GP.
See, yeah, like the reason
I should probably like,
not even
explain
but I
I like
You stole it off
an old lady
I did
yeah yeah
I was like
see that blind
child there
I want his
and I want you
to
well obviously
we'll do it
in front of him
even though he can't see
but if you
describe it
audibly
he's like
Mr.
Cadden gets his
vaccine
I want him to smell
it
and little
Bobo
or whatever he's called
he can go
shit up a spot
now
see like
I have always
had this thing
since I was a child, like, I get, like, real bad, like, chronic ear infections and
sinus infections, and I've had, like, surgeries on my right ear and shit. So, like,
I've had, you know, I guess because of that, I'm in, like, a category where it's, like,
because I've been on lots of antibiotics and shit throughout my life. Whatever. Look, I, I pay a few brown
envelopes. I got the vaccine. Fuck you. You pay your taxes. I'm better than you. What do you
want for me? What do you want for me? I work in Satanto, baby. I'm in the, I'm in the one percent.
but anyway yeah so i got it so they brought me in sat me down just inject you and like i think
my doctor my gp even's like oh you know a lot of people are reluctant to think we're injecting them
with bill gates nanochips i was like hmm interesting that you said that doctor but uh yeah
using sarcasm to disguise the truth i'm a comedian sir i see what you are doing jacques
the emperor has no clothes good sir uh but yeah so they give it to you you sit
there for 15 minutes and if you don't
fucking, you know, start shitting blood
or spas out and die, you're allowed
to leave. So I didn't really have any
side effects. Felt a little tired,
sore arm, but really
nothing. And now, but
like, you know, to be honest, like insomnia,
clenched jaw,
crippling on happiness and misery
and loneliness, all these things
predate my getting
the vaccine. And you shitting all that
blood. Yeah, yeah. I'm actually shitting
less blood since I got the vaccine.
so that's at least something's improving
that's good I hope that convinces people to take it
yeah yeah there's a big problem at the moment
one apparently
in drotida
there was a big problem where
like a lot of people signed up to get the vaccine
then there were no shows
didn't show up yeah I've heard that's been happening a lot
yeah yeah and also a lot of black people
and beams you know bames
black Asian
Mexican or something like that
they don't want to take it either
there's a big a lot of minority
parties don't want to take the vaccine because they don't trust the man.
Well, but, you know, the thing is there is a historical precedent here.
I mean, I made a very witty reference to the Tuskegee experiments.
Now, the intellectuals who enjoy this podcast will get that reference.
But if you're just some average shit muncher, Johnny six-pack, pleb on the street, go do your research.
But yeah, the Tuskegee experiment, they basically infected a lot of, like, African-Americans with syphilis.
Just for the crack, really?
tracks like, here, let's see what this does.
Here, Jamal, get your
ass over here. This will help fight
communism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When was
that, like, the 50s or 60s or something?
I think around 60s, yeah, yeah. But, like, and then, like,
let's, that's in fucking America
to do that. You get to the third world,
fucking, like,
like, places like Haiti and fucking, like, India
and, like, you know, where there's this, like,
real impoverished fucking, like,
it's third world conditions.
There are fucking corporations going around
jabbing cunts with fucking random needles.
Like, here, let's see what this does.
So there is definitely a historical president that, like, minorities and underprivileged people have been sort of subjected to, like, horrific experiments against their will.
So I can understand why there's a, look at Cadden, getting all progressive.
Even minorities in the nursing sector and stuff like that, even they're kind of like, mm-mm, I don't like it.
You ain't putting that up in there, me.
I see some white man coming up here with his little peat.
little needle dick i know what he won't oh little prick i've seen that before yeah
i'm not joking the UK government got all over the people uh black celebrities to try
and like drum up support with the youth right so they got Lenny Henry oh yeah and Ramesh
Lenny Henry to appeal to the youths yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's like you know I
didn't get and I end up marrying Don French uh but yeah but yeah
Yeah, so there's definitely a lot of, you know, people are hesitant, but look, look, this is, this is what it is.
You know, if it is all a big ruse to depopulate the earth, fair play to them.
They played a blinder.
They've nailed it.
I mean, they're on the home stretch, you know what I mean?
They really, you know, credit or credits due, my compliments to the chef, they really, they hit a home run, knocked it out of the park, so fair play.
What do you think of the theory?
There's a theory going around again online.
none of these are theories that
like I formulated myself
I'm smart enough
but there's a theory that
this vaccine is actually
going to save people
for the next disease
what do you mean like
so they'll vaccinate the people
and like you know
like the riffraff and you know
the certain people
who don't get it
then they'll release another disease
that kills off anyone who hasn't got the vaccine
okay so that's why I think
I won't get the vaccine and you will
and this will be our little experiment.
And we'll see, yeah, so we're doing our own
experiment here.
Kind of like, yeah, we're doing our own
little Johnson and Johnson.
It's like Brainiac.
I'm going to walk in Custer as well.
Yeah, so you're not going to get it.
I'll get it and we'll see how it goes.
We'll keep you updated listeners.
Oh, I don't have a funny sketch.
Oh, yeah, this would be a very funny sketch.
We should film this, okay.
We'll do a little funny skit.
Yeah, okay.
Put it online.
So I go into the hospital, all right, to get my injection.
Yeah.
But I get lost, all right, and I go into the wrong room,
and there's a whole room full of the astro-vaccine.
Astrozenica?
Yeah, there's a room full of them, okay?
Yeah, yeah.
But I accidentally knock him over.
Right.
And I'm like, oh, gee, oh, I got to fill them all up myself.
So I j-s it.
I've also got talking bear with me as well.
Oh, okay.
I jizzing all of them
all right
and they're injecting old ladies
with my jizz
but the old lady's like
hmm
brings me back
yeah yeah
to be four years old again
reminds me of the scouts
yeah that is a funny sketch
I think that would be very good
and then I come in
in black face
like I will not take the vaccine
you will not effect me
because it gives the gay gene
and then what they do is
They eat the pooh.
They smear their poopo from the enos on the leans.
But I interrupt you, I'm like, no, Tuskegee Airmen.
He mentioned that, so it's okay.
It's okay, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
We ride your fine line.
It's very, very clever, very intellectual.
Yeah.
So that's what you've been up to.
That's what I've been doing, yeah, getting vaccinated with nanochips and whatnot.
I haven't been up to much.
The few things going on in my life that will save for the Patreon.
Okay.
A teaser, I had a bit of a blow up with my uncle.
I think my uncle might be bugging my phone.
Yeah, and then, so, you know, yeah, you'll get into that later.
But you were about three hours late today, and I wasn't able to contact you.
So I was legit thinking, fuck, maybe he, like, crashed his car and he's dead.
Yeah.
Could I do an episode without him?
Could I fly solo?
Could you Bill Burrett?
Well, I do a Bill Burr.
So, ah, unbelievable.
This asshole.
Can't drive his car.
I didn't know. I didn't know O'Poole was a fucking Asian name.
Am I right?
His fucking guy can't drive.
Yeah, yeah.
So, uh, no, but you're here and you're alive.
I'm here, yeah.
Well, speaking of being alive.
Yeah.
Well, let's do the closing chapter in the saga of Therow.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
R-I-P.
If you haven't seen my Instagram story recently, my roommate Thero, so this podcast is basically
without us knowing, the other way to say, like,
a documentary you find the story.
Yes, yes.
This podcast was basically a time capsule
documenting the story of a great man called Tero.
Yes.
So Tero is dead.
He is dead, yes.
The choir invisible.
Alas, poor Tero.
I knew him, Horatio.
Yeah, so what happened is
I lived with a guy called Taro.
We're going to his backstory again.
We've talked about him before, but yeah, let's give a brief summary.
Just to...
For the newbies.
Tell you why we're talking about him.
I live with a guy called Tiro, and I was like,
geez, I wonder what happened to him?
I text my roommate, and it turns out he's dead.
He's dead.
Now, who is Taro?
Yes.
He's an alcoholic, smelly man I lived with.
I'm glad he's dead.
Yes.
Punk rock, dude.
Man, do you mount to people?
You won't believe what Brian says in this episode.
I'm smoking as well.
Take that square.
I'm fighting
This is punching up
You are punching up
Because he's up in heaven now
You can't get any more up than that
My friend
It's so funny
Because I used to complain about him all the time
And a lot of people are like
Oh Brian, you joke about it
But you would be sad when he dies
You showed then
I tried to tell him
No, he's an unempathetic sociopath
I was like
Well I've been proved right again
And it's even me being like
Well maybe I can use this to score
some poon.
Yeah.
Did you get any sympathy poon?
No, I couldn't stop smiling.
I was like, ah!
It's so sad.
He-he!
So he's dead and you're not sad.
No.
You don't miss him.
The only thing I'm sad about is that I miss the death.
You missed the death.
It happened like right after you moved out, didn't he?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So, Tero Lino, a tribute.
Yes.
Born in Finland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He became a journalist.
Ah.
story. Oh, I thought you were going to say
he was like
he was tagging along with Woodward and
Bernstein, you know, he actually
introduced them to deep throat, you know,
but he didn't get the credit and that's
his life went off the rails after that.
Yeah, I think he like did some big Finland
stories which is like, oh, might as well be
Narnia stories, you know?
But he seemed to have a weird career.
I imagine looking back on he probably just pissed
off people and just kept moving.
So he was a journalist,
then he tried to run as a Christian
Democrat, like a politician.
A Christian Democrat?
Interesting.
I think that's the big party over there.
I think Merkel's a Christian
Democrat and it's not really that
religion-y. Right. Okay. It's just kind of
like a... Yeah.
All right. It's just a name. It's interesting
Christian Democrat because you can kind of play
both sides because Democrat, you know,
you're progressive and you're all about
open-minded, inclusiveness, blah, blah, but then that
Christian thing is like, but we still hold
like traditional values, families, family.
the core structure all that shit so it's kind of like they're cowards that's what it is pick aside they're
just sitting on the fence with a big crucifix up their ass yeah fucking dweeb be a man yeah get the
swat stick a tattoo yes let us know where you stand come on so uh he was journalist for a while
then he was trying to be politician then he was like an english teacher for a while right and uh didn't
seem like a very good english teacher no no and like i assume like he like he like he
He was just drinking and his alcoholism, you know.
It doesn't start magically one day.
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of like a progression thing.
And then when I met him, he was living in Dundalk,
so things must have been going really well for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're a journalist, a politician and an English teacher in Finland,
but then you end up unemployed in Dundalk.
That to me spells success.
It's his retirement.
Things went very right for terror.
So when I met him, he'd been laid off from,
IBM.
Wow.
This guy's out of life.
Yeah, yeah.
And he would just spend
all his days
moving from the couch
to his room.
Yes.
And just be passed out
with cans of lager
watching like say yes to the dress.
Yes.
You know,
watching like shitty like reality shows.
Just dreaming for when a man
will come and take him away.
Yeah, yeah.
And very smelly you would
Very smelly.
Yeah, yeah.
Like his room,
I used to look and,
he all used to always like be passed out
and stuff so I have a little looking through.
to try and steal some of his money
you know
because I'm trying to help
of course yeah
it would always just be like rotten fruit
and yogurts everywhere
yeah
his bedroom looked like the album
cover of an Allison chain
CD
huh
I don't get that
there's a reference that nobody
will appreciate
but I know it's quality
yeah he slept
there was no duve or anything on his bed
it was just like just mattress
yeah
so that's a sign
yeah
what he called
immaterialism
Oh like minimalism
Minimalism yeah
I assumed that was it
And it wasn't just he's just a smelly fucking drunk
scumbag
Again RIP
Yeah yeah
This is me
I just how I deal with grief
What like he had
Kids right
Apparently as kids and a mother were Alzheimer's back in Finland
Jesus Christ
Yeah
So tell you
I can't wait to tell her multiple times
she probably subscribed to the
Patreon after this
no yeah
yeah
it's the only thing
she recognises
everything else
it's like
it's just a fog
to her
yeah
she's like
Brian and James
Brian and James
bring me
peace in my mind
yeah
so he was
he also was diabetic
and he just always
like going diabetic
comas
right
and like his
his go-to
thing was like
ringing up the ambulance
right
yeah he'd almost like
alert him
he'd be like
I feel bad
bad ambulance
please
and they'd be like
are you
he's like
I'm going to be
in diabetic coma soon
he's almost like
he's planned it out
you know
right yeah yeah
and then did all
take him away
kind of like you know
when it was his
turn to do the dishes
yeah
you know diabetic
coma
every single
ambulance
coincidence
so like
uh
taro you're really
not adhering
to the cleaning
schedule
I am very sick
please leave me alone
so like
multiple times a month
he just like
nearly die all right yeah and like i i honestly like i'm joking but i i was trying to look into
like can i get him sectioned in any way or something right for his benefit like he was hallucinating
yeah yeah he's too he'd say like i he wouldn't say to me because he just mumbled to me but i'd hear
him talking to paramedics and they'd be like are the hallucinations back tarot and he'd be like
yes they come and go and i don't know what's real that's so fucked up that's scary man
that's like my biggest fear of shit like that happening to me
that'd be fun
so you can watch say yes to the dress
how would you
oh oh no
god no man one stage they brought him home and the guy
was real chipper all these paramedics
are like weirdly chippered like
all right buddy yeah yeah they try to keep
like an upbeat it's like
all right guys how's it going look you've got
you just got a bad mental attitude
terror have you read this secret
it'll change your life pal
okay so one guy one time they dropped him home
okay
and they were like
alright
okay buddy
now you've learned
your lesson there
now no more drink
alright
that's where the problem
starts now
you see off the drink
you'd be grand
all right
and then Tiro's like
no more drink
no more drink
and the paramedic left
and he's just on his own
on the couch
being like
no more drink
no more drink
Jesus Christ
yeah
I'm trying to watch
Futurama
I'm like shut up
Bender's doing
something.
Oh, God.
You know, like,
we should maybe just take a moment to,
no? No. Okay.
Oh, you go ahead.
Well, be queer.
Yeah, I'll be a big buffy here.
Just say, obviously, this is
like a kind of
defense mechanism using
humor to mask your
well, I was honestly, like,
I'm so annoyed I missed him dying.
Because he died.
That perfectly backs off.
the statement that I just made
I'm crying on the inside
yeah yeah yeah well like I was like
he's going to die any minute and I would have
moved out of house like probably like
weeks earlier but you were just like he's
going to die soon you don't want to miss it
I want to see a dead finish man
okay that would be really cool
for your bucket list yeah yeah yeah
I was thinking like we could do something to promote the podcast
right like what if I wrote Brian and James
on his head and Sharpie
are you doing like a weekend at Bernie's
thing we bring them around with Sunday
glasses on.
Yeah.
But he just died right after
and it's like blue balls.
That's a shame.
I wonder what to live
with the body.
It's probably still there.
Decomposing.
I hope they flush him in the toilet.
They just left him out in the garden.
It's like this will be good now.
The blue bells will come in very nice.
It's why he would have wanted.
It's what he would have wanted.
It'll be good for the daffodennels.
There's nothing that fertilizes the ground more
than the decomposing corpse
of a Finnish alcoholic diabetic.
I mean, read gardeners,
world and not telling you the exact same thing.
It's weird. I think I was joking about this
with some people and I think I touch a nerve
with some people. They're like, oh, Brian, you shouldn't.
Yeah, a lot of people were kind of like
oh, Brian, you know, you shouldn't be
making these jokes. All right, so
let's, I'm going to put that on you right
now. What's your defense here, Brian?
How do you defend yourself?
He's shit in the shower.
Perfect. Done. Game over.
And I cleaned it. You cleaned his shit
in the shower. So fuck you.
Am I allowed, okay? You've earned
It's not like I killed him
No
Okay
It's not like I gave him
The chocolate cake to kill him
Okay
You give him a brandy cake
I just killed him
Yeah
Man the last time
I saw him
Okay
Yeah
There was a woman
At the door
Yeah
One of his hose
No he was yelling at her
He was like
Go away
I need to come back
Tomorrow
Go
Go away
And she was like
Come on Terrell
Please
I was like walking past
and made eye contact
and like oh god
now I'm involved
in this
yeah yeah
wait with her
yeah
and she kind of looked
to me like help
right
apparently she worked
well that's what they do
isn't it
the bloody buds
now I
now big buff
brine here
is got to solve a problem
all right
like your Marty McFly's dad
hey you
get your damn
hands off of her
just close the door
and walk away
oh tool
no apparently
she worked for
IBM and for like
months he was like
they were like can you please give back all the computers and shit
you know because they gave him
stuff yeah like company laptop
yeah like there's a computer and a monitor
and a screen and stuff like that right
I think that's all the same thing isn't it computer monitor
screen there's like a desk as well
and stuff right yeah yeah and they're like can we have
it back and he just been like
perfect response
using his mumbo jumbo
his legal jargon
He's right
There is a legal precedent to back that up
I will refer you to the
1984 Mongo versus McGuire case
Yeah
God damn he's so smart
But anyway
Apparently they'd sent a woman over to get it
While her kid was in the car
Right oh
Yeah
And she was like I'm too scared to go in
can you help
so I had to go in
alright
and he was like
in like standing
like up to me
he's squaring up to you
yeah it's weird
he's like
no what are you doing
yeah yeah yeah
and he kind of made
a kind of like
a slapping motion
but like
he didn't make contact
you know
he kind of like
misjudged
the spatial awareness
of all things
he's kind of
just waves his hand
a bit
and I was like
all right
I'm going to get
this computer
now Tehr
and he went
okay
and he just
lay down the bed
right
so now
I have to lift a
fucking desk
in a computer
while the woman
watches.
Oh, of course,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh,
is this a quality?
You're not gonna roll up
the sleeves, love.
Yeah.
I voted to repeal.
Now, come on.
Put your back into it.
Oh,
I'm invoking my vote now.
Send it back.
So, like,
I was taking the stuff.
While he's on the bed
just going like,
you will not take it
tonight, come back,
come back tomorrow.
Right, yeah.
Just impotently
just waving his arm.
on the bed
very very sad
yeah
and that was the last time
I saw him
tragic
it really is
like
tragic
like you know what
it would be tragic
if I felt like
he made
any attempt
to be a nice
person or
likeable
okay
if he was like
wanted help
he didn't seem
if he wanted help
yeah
it's kind of like
yeah
like here's a thing
when somebody
is in that
fucking
in the depths
of like
despair
I mean
wallowing
like
but they're not
making any
attempt
to better
to like better their situation they're kind of like and not only are they relying on others but they're
like actively taking a shit literally and uh you know figuratively yeah yeah so like they're literally
just like making life harder for everyone around them and it's just like when somebody is going
out of their way to push people away they keep pushing and pushing and pushing eventually people are
just going to be like fuck this you know life's hard enough i have
to deal with my own shit. I'm not going to try and rescue this person who's a total
stranger. You know, personally, I think you should have that attitude to people in your immediate
family. If they slightly inconvenience you, even once, walk away forever and don't feel
a thing about it. Done. Write jokes about their suicide and profit of it, my friend. That's the
Caden philosophy. It's the only mentally healthy thing to do. Yeah, yeah. Don't listen to Bresi,
or your therapist
they're all against you
get a podcast and mock
the feeble that's the only way
to do it
yeah like I did try
I tried to get him
apparently there's no way to help an alcoholic
person in this country
if they don't want help
no I tried I was like
is there any way because he's hallucinating
he's shitting in the shower and he's seeing things
and he's like they were like
hey it's not your problem dude
yeah yeah come on dude
just acuna matat or my
friend. No, he's mentally
unwell. He needs help. Snooch to the
nuch. Just check
out the new episode of Hollywood
man and blaze
one for the homies.
Yeah, that's the thing. Like the infrastructure
in this country, especially
in the public sector, just
is virtually non-existent.
I mean, the suicide rate is skyrocketing in this
country and there's really little
to no fucking help
for the people that need it. Even
the people that are actively seeking
out ways to better
their situation are kind of meeting
like brick walls and pitfalls
in every turn. So when there's somebody who's
literally doesn't, who can't be helped
doesn't want to be helped and when
you attempt to help them they push you away
what could you do? I try, he went
missing for a week. I was the one who went to the
garden station. Like should I file out missing
persons? Yeah, yeah. They were like,
ah, come back tomorrow. Come back tomorrow. I can't find
me pen. Yeah, yeah.
No, but it's like, I made
made more effort than anyone else
than anyone else in the house
Here's the truth about it though
This is the truth about life
Okay
This is you know
Why like you know
Not to be too fucking
Pretentious about it
But film television literature
It's all lied to you
Because at the end of the day
You can't actually save anyone
And you can't be saved by anyone
At the end of the day
It is down to you
Only you can save yourself
Only they can save themselves
Some people are equipped to do it
and some people aren't,
and it's just a matter of time
before you find out which one you are.
Well, I think that's a little bit bleak.
Well, I think if you're taro,
you can't be saved.
Everyone can be saved apart from Teiro.
That's why I've learned.
Yeah, if he's the only one.
Yeah, yeah.
Those six million Jews in the Holocaust
had a bad mental attitude, according to you.
Couldn't be safe.
Couldn't be out.
You know, get up on two feet.
Pull the bootstraps where the fuck is it.
I'm just saying, you know,
yeah, you can be saved and there is
like stuff out there, but only if you
personally wanted
enough or are willing to make
the, like the landlord didn't do anything.
The landlord did nothing.
That's the thing, you can't, you can't, like, rescue people.
It's not like a fucking, this isn't,
I don't know, like...
I don't think I ever told you this, but when I lifted
a fucking desk and a monitor, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Put it in that woman's car and she was like,
cheers and drove off, all right?
Didn't even suck it.
A bitch.
So she drove off.
let you have a go on the kid
She drove off
The second after she drove off
The landlord texted me
Okay going like
Hey good work Brian
Thanks for handling that
Very mature
Oh
So obviously she was onto the landlord
And the landlord
Was just like not getting involved
Until he found out it got sorted
And then he was like
Nice one brother
But also he said
Very mature as if like
Yeah you really grew up there
And handled that
Like you should
I'm proud of it
Like an adult
That's what
life is now
yeah
this is my life
you always be so funny
I moved to a new house
and I open the door
and it's like
another another taro
basically
yeah yeah
a house full of
taros
just outgo
Scandinavians
everywhere you go
yeah
well he's dead
now so what are you gonna do
yeah
and I have actually
tried to make efforts
to contact
his friends and family
I'm not even joking here
I've messaged all
picks is it
yeah
this would cheer you up
send one to the wife
over here, you're back of my market, love.
Come on.
It'll cure your Alzheimer's.
But, no, I have me send them like,
oh, your friend's dead.
Brian and James.
Yeah, you haven't been doing that
because you're a coward and a pussy.
No, I have been texting,
and being like, hey, did you know Terry?
I text anyone that he followed on Instagram,
anyone that follows him on Instagram.
Wow.
Okay.
I texted very generic.
Like, hey, do you know Terro?
What are you going to do,
like a talented Mr. Ripley thing,
and kind of, you're going to...
I'm Thero.
Yeah, I was actually his doctor,
and I need to speak with you
about his last will and testament.
Yeah, I seem to have misplaced medical records.
Could you just give me a bit of information
and show me that pussy?
Show me that pussy.
Well, you are in the HSE.
Yeah, so that's the end of...
That's the closing chapter of Tero.
I hope there's another chapter.
Oh, maybe the story's only begun, my friend.
Oh yes
Like I hope something else happens
Like maybe his son shows up
Right
His wacky son
Yeah
And he's like a heroin addict
Yeah
A bit of chain
Or no
There's a straight lace son
Who's like
I'd never do drink
And I'm like go on
Have one
It won't hurt
And literally the next day
He's like shit in the shower
Oh like fad or like son
Oh
We're about half hour in
Okay
You're steering the ship
Now James
Where do you want to go
Oh don't
Why are you handing it over to me?
Do you want to talk about Paul Mooney?
Oh, yeah.
Do you want to talk about...
I got a good reaction with Paul Mooney.
Do you want to do Paul Mooney or Saul?
Let's do a little bit of Paul Mooney.
I go Paul Mooney.
And then maybe end it with Saw.
All right, yeah, okay.
Okay, let's talk about Paul Mooney.
Yes.
So Paul Mooney...
You know what?
People are like, oh, Brian is fucking no empathy, fucking freak.
Hey, when a black man dies like here, you don't want me?
yeah he can read the room he knows what way the wind's blowing i know what type of life matters
yeah yeah so paul mooney yes at the comedy godfather yeah a great guy i'm going to say it
great guy great comedian i used to love paul mooney really yes i always find him a bit kind of
like no but like very very like kind of like overly preachy sanctimonious but kind of like a condescending
thing but I guess
he was one note he had his thing
yeah but there was like also
like uh what would you
say kind of uh he was
like begrudging
or he had an axe to grind it's kind of like
it didn't really pan out from
it was kind of he was always sort of
like Richard
Pryor's underling and that's all
that anybody ever saw him as you know what I mean
well it sounds like he had a real
Patrice attitude where he would
multiple times just go into a
room full of executives and be like,
oh, fuck you, honky.
Yeah, all your shows are shit, I'm better than you.
And then it's going to walk out being like, why did that not go well?
Yeah.
No, look, before, look, but I will say, obviously he is, you know, very, um, like a very
important cultural milestone in comedy, especially for like African American comedians.
He's like, people put him up there next to Pryor because he wrote with Pryor, like,
they work together on all, like, Pryor's big stuff.
So very influential.
contributed a lot so I'm not trying to dismiss his importance I'm just saying like as he as he went
on in his career he got more and more I don't know cynical bitter that things hadn't really
panned out that he never he was always kind of eclipsed by prior and that never got away so
he was a bit kind of annoying than that respect but obviously you know respect to you know credit
where credit's due he was very important he's interesting there said it can't come after me
Fuck you.
Yeah.
So that makes up
for everything else
he's done
in the last 10 years.
But, like,
he's an interesting guy.
Apparently he started off
as a ringmaster
in a circus.
Okay.
Literally,
he was,
you know,
the guy
like step up
what,
yo,
see the amazing
elephant.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
And then he went
from that to like comedy.
You know,
motherfuckers want
to see this elephant.
Do some crazy shit.
That's what you
white people like,
ain't it?
What's wrong
with the ringmaster,
Daddy?
Why is he so angry?
I don't
No, but mommy seems to like him.
That's right, motherfucker.
I'll be fucking your white-ass bitch.
And she'll love it.
What you're gonna do?
So, yeah, he went from that to comedy
and then met up at Pryor and started writing.
Yeah, yeah.
And so I knew about all this stuff.
Okay.
But there's a whole other section of his life.
I did not know about till after he died at all.
It's weird because you think, like,
I liked a guy.
I would have known about this.
Yeah, yeah.
But it wasn't really that reporter on and wasn't really...
And like, okay, so apart.
from like let's just for anybody that doesn't know uh paul mooney like apart from his career with prior
like he definitely was he was seen kind of he he had respect amongst the comedy community yeah you know
and he was but he was very contentious he would argue with people very rare like very heavy on the
issues of race racism that was kind of he would kind of be you know angry black guys kind of thing was a
A bit of a shtick of his...
He played into it.
Yeah, he played into it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck the White E.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm sure, like,
there's definitely a genuine aspect to it
and deservedly so
because he came up in the fucking,
like, 50s and 60s when, you know,
the real racism was going, you know?
To be a black ringmaster in the circus,
like...
In, like, the 50s, like,
probably didn't have a good time of it, you know?
Yeah.
But yeah, no, so, yeah,
deserve...
Like, I think his anger was certainly justified,
but anyway.
so okay apart from prior though what else did he kind of do
not much he was in the chapel show he's in chapel he was just it seems like he was always around
comedy clubs he was a gigging way up until the end yeah yeah he was a road dog yeah it's
kind of like he had made such a big splash with his time with prior that he was always
that's the thing with comedy you can always go out on the road and do a few gigs if you have
like a decent credit to your name you can like ride that all the way to the end
There's guys who, like, they, like, they were an S&L cast member for three days.
Yeah.
And, in, like, the 70s, all right?
Yeah.
And was it, S&L in the 70s?
Yeah, it started, like, 74 or 5.
Yeah, so, like, they were like, oh, yeah, I was on S&L for a week in, like, 78.
Yeah.
And they're still going around with that.
Yeah.
And people are like, are you Pete Davidson?
And he's like, basically, yeah.
Chevy spat in my face twice.
So, if I'm not headlining, I'm a.
smithling. Can we agree on that?
So the thing I want
to talk about now is
apparently in 2018
Richard Pryor's
bodyguard came out
and he was like oh yeah
by the way Paul Mooney raped
Richard Pryor's son
You just can't wait to tear down
another black man's legacy
prominent black man yeah I'm like the fucking
the press you know
Any black man going through his bins
trying to find any dirt
Okay, so yeah
Pryor's fucking bodyguard came out and said
Paul Mooney raped Pryor's son
When he was underage
Wow
And the son did deny it
Really?
The son was kind of like, yeah
You know, I was on
I was on pills and a lot of people
You know, someone abused me
I won't say who
But Jesus
And the wife
One of Pryor's ex-wives
Not only agreed with it
But she said that
fucking
a Mooney basically admitted it to her
in public at the funeral service
at Richard Pryor's funeral?
Yeah, yeah.
Holy fuck.
He basically said out loud.
It was one of the worst eulogies
I've ever experienced.
Not the worst, but it was up there.
I mean, it was up there.
It didn't work as an icebreaker.
Okay, so,
was there ever a falling out
with Mooney and Pryor?
Well, here's the weird thing.
According to the bodyguard,
Pryor was miffed
about this.
It irked him.
It helped him the wrong way.
He really irked him, all right?
So he wanted to get a hitman
to kill Paul Mooney.
He was willing to pay a million dollars
to get Paul Mooney whacked.
Wow.
And then Richard Pryor went on fire.
Oh, so it's around that time?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Then the free basing accident happened.
He went up on fire.
Yeah.
I think that kind of like distracted him a bit.
Yeah, because then like, you know, he had to get a lot of skin grafts and physio and it was a whole big thing.
And it probably made him retink some things and stop being so judgmental.
And just realized that his son had a sweet little ass.
But do you think it's weird that like even up until the end, Mooney was literally pushing Pryor's wheelchair?
Really?
Do you think you ever have a friendship that's so strong that you can like be like, ah, look, he did that.
I think, though, but here's the thing, like, with, you know, Hollywood, back in those days,
you know, Prior, like, he himself was, like, molested as a child.
He had a lot of, like, bad, like, he was very abusive to women, a lot of issues with drugs.
He grew up in a brothel.
Yeah.
His mother, a prostitute, his dad, a pimp, his grandmother is the madam of the brothel.
So, Pryor has a very fucked up, warped sense of what's allowed.
and what's okay and what's not okay
so like yeah he probably
was just like look we have a business
interest together there's money if we like
started going at each other
it probably caused a whole lot of headaches
that I don't need so let's just fucking
forget it or whatever I don't think
it's beyond just considering
Pryor's history and upbringing
I think that there's
yeah plus this is Hollywood in the 70s
banging a teenage boy is like
hey we all look we had
a few too well Polanski can do it
Boy, can't.
Oh, double standards.
A few too many ludes and I got a little wild in a hot tub.
But I don't think, I'm not justifying it in any way, all right?
Yeah.
Wink.
I have to say that now, don't you?
Oh, can't say anything these days.
But I'm just saying, no, none of us will ever get to the level that these people wore in the 70s in terms of just how fucked up they wore.
Yes.
And just how, like, everyone was living on the edge.
Yeah.
You literally, imagine like being so fucked up
that you're just basically gone in the head for a month.
You come to your fucking Marilyn Brando in the ass.
You're like, oh, what day is it?
And you just go back into your coma for like a month.
And then you come back out and people are like,
you're pretty wild there.
Oh, okay.
You know, Terro really was just a white Richard Pryor without the money.
You know, that's really what we're saying here.
It's like, if you have money living in Hollywood like that,
it's all good.
you're you know fucking marlin brando in the ass
and you're you know shooting at your car
and lighting yourself on fire
but if you don't have the money
you're just face down in your own shit
in a Gaffin Dundalk and some little
dweeb from Carlos like
oh he needs to be helped
yeah
oh please help
yeah
so it's like it's it will
it's insane to a level that we'll never
comprehend just how off the rails
they are and obviously
the thing to learn is
like don't do loads of drugs and rape children
but they didn't know back then
that's the thing there was no social media
back then so how were you meant
to know that you weren't supposed to
rape a child on cocaine
now here's another thing
this is almost like this confuses
you even more there was a long
standing rumor that
Paul Mooney was gay
and they asked his son
about this alright they're like
is it true that your father was gay
and the son says this is perbatim
now.
Verbatim.
This is ferv...
This is ipso facto.
All right.
He goes,
he never try to fuck me in the ass.
That's what he says.
Nice.
Yeah.
So the sun's got a bit of humor as well.
Ah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's good.
So the rumor is that,
like, I think all those guys,
like, just all bisexual.
Yeah, I think Hollywood in general
is just like,
when you're living in those sort of circles,
you're detached from reality
and you just have infinite money
and drugs.
coming in and nobody tells
you know, you just get bored
of the same thing and you just start banging
men, women, children,
dogs, who cares, you know?
You put a insect
under your foreskin,
you know, for, just for
crack, you know? I was listening to
one guy and he was saying that he had
an interview lined up with Mooney.
Right. To talk about this, and
Mooney was up for it. Oh, yeah.
It was a tell all. The family stopped
him. Because he get this stage as well,
was starting to get Alzheimer's.
Right.
And the family wouldn't let him
go on camera and talk about molesting children.
It might look bad.
When he died?
Not as old as you think.
70s?
Okay.
I thought like, geez, he must be a fine old age.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, no.
Charles Groton died as well.
Yeah, well.
You're not like Charles Grotin?
No, white.
The white Paul Mooney,
I always called him.
Wait, I only know him from
the Niro movie.
Midnight Ron.
I don't know.
anywhere and I have bad memories of that film
yeah it's
no just because I had an argument with my parents at the time
okay I remember sitting down like a real
huff like fuck this film
fuck this film I'm putting all my anger on
to Groden I love Charles
Groden because he had a real
really good at the kind of like
a deadpan dry sarcastic thing
like he was great
did you ever see the original heartbreak kid
no they talk actually
the writers of Father Ted said they
very much based Ted's character
on Charles Groden in the original
Heartbreak Kid, just that kind of like
you know, always like
everything going wrong from blah blah
what else was he in?
There's that Albert Brooks film, the
pint of mockumentary one. Remember that?
An American Life or something like that?
I have not seen there. Well, I have
a big gaping hole.
Yes, yes you do.
And I need to fill it.
Yeah, you've got a big Richard Pryor
junior right there
and I'm going to come along like Paul Mooney
and fill you up
with knowledge
My film knowledge
of that actor
that particular actor
Mr. Grodden
is lacking
Well I
I also know him
from the
Beethoven movie
Yeah
What was he in the
He was the dad
In the Beethoven movie
I've seen that
I don't remember
I was more focused
On the dog
Like a freak
You were like
Oh what's the dad do
And I was like
Look with a dog
Yeah
As a seven year old
I was like
Ah the
The subtle nuances
Of Groden's performance
You know, you see him as this sort of emasculated, castrated male, smothered by domesticity.
But then the introduction of this large St. Bernard and Jax's much-needed chaos into the mundane everyday life.
And then my dad was like, would you shut up, you little buffy, I would kill you right now.
And you're like, Father, you don't understand.
It's not what he's doing.
It's what he's not doing.
You wouldn't appreciate it, you troglodyte.
Yeah, yeah
But no, so yeah
RIP, Charles Groden
I'm just going to say that
But sorry, not to Dorelia
Back to Mooney
No, that's basically all it had
It's about Mooney
Okay
Maybe, I wonder
Did Charles Groden
Never rape any children
There's the question you should ask
To investigate for yourself
Listeners
Fuck the dog
Yeah
Give Beethoven the old
How's your father
Yeah, the dog OD on pills
Yeah
So yeah
So we're coming up to the end
Of the show now
We've got a little bit now
Oh, yeah, we can do, we can finish up with SAW.
Let's talk about SAW.
Yeah.
Now, here's the thing, folks.
I have watched a lot of SAW recently.
Yeah.
Because it's the summer of spooks, as I say, okay?
How dare you on the week Paul Mooney died, you disgusting individual.
You know, because it's the summer of spooky scleries, okay?
I'm just in that mood.
So I was like, I'm going to watch all the SAW movies.
Yeah.
That's what a mentally healthy person.
Yeah.
That's how I deal with grief.
I make fun of a dead alcoholic
and I want to watch the saw movies.
Yeah, that'll cure the soul.
So I watched a lot of them
because I want to get ready as well for Jix...
Spiral.
Spiral, yeah, okay.
The Chris Rock.
Yeah.
Is it a sequel or a reimagining of the franchise?
It's set in the same world.
Okay.
So I thought, hey, I'll start from the beginning
and watch all of them.
I've made notes for all the films.
I'll be honest.
We'll see how much we do.
Yeah.
We'll see.
I'll know from your eyes.
I don't think we need to go.
through every single
one.
I think we do.
Okay.
Because I have
made the notes.
Okay,
right.
I've made a lot of
notes on something
that is pointless.
Yes.
You know what also
is funny
because there's a bunch
of people on
YouTube like this
as well would they be like
ho-ho,
look at the saw movies.
The continuity
between Saw 6
doesn't match up
with Saw 7.
It's like
the filmmakers
didn't really care
because they weren't
just making money.
It's just that
pointless cash grab
as all those
horror franchises are.
Yeah,
it's like yeah,
that's exactly what they're doing
so who's the real winner
you know
you think you're smart
yeah they're in the Hollywood Hills
raping Richard Pryor Jr
while you're being a little
fucking dwee making a vlog
about Saw 6th
yeah and you think you're better
than everyone because I'm the only one
who noticed this very obvious
mistake that everyone has noticed
oh I'm so clever
so that kind of made me sick of myself
sure yeah
but let's talk about Saul
let's do it so saw is basically
very influenced by 7
yeah and it's basically
what if
7 was directed by an Australian
Asian
Jesus
Yeah so James 1
and another guy
Actually the guy who wrote it
Is the guy in the film
The photographer
Have you seen Saw
I saw Saw fucking years ago
Like when it first came out
I remember it was a big deal
When it came out
Yeah it was huge
People loved it
And I remember as well
It was a thing where
Every single Halloween
I wouldn't see the movie
But I see the cool poster
What was the poster
with the puppet was it? There'd always be something
a weird poster
where they'd imply gore would it be like a guy's
head but it looks like it's about
to get cut off or like there'd be a hand
but it's obvious that the hand
isn't attached to anything or a cock
and I remember going like yes
every poster I see just has a big
cock on it. You see the poster for up
it's like it's a big cock tied to balloons
I remember like
as a kid I'd see the posters in the cinema
while I'm going to watch something else to be like
oh man those movies must be fucking
flipping awesome
yeah oh what were you going to see
your little dweeb
probably fucking Wallace and Gromit
curse of the wear rabbit
I even down like oh no I'm too
scared the corpse bride
was it it's like oh I can't tell my
parents I saw this
I'm sneaking in
with a bottle of pop I'm going mad
you got a trench coat
and a hat on and like a fucking
groucho marks glasses and must
that.
First Saw movie, okay?
We'll just go through him, all right?
Go on.
The first Saw movie, the classic.
A kind of like a Hitchcockian thing.
Two guys wake up in a room?
Yes.
And why are they trapped there?
One is Dr. Phil, the other is Shaquille O'Neal.
That's the opening of Scary Movie Four.
Oh, is it?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I missed that.
Should I watch that?
You're what?
I can't watch all the solos and not watch scary movies as well.
No, you can't.
There's a gap in your knowledge, good sir.
I don't, sorry, God.
Was that funny, was it when?
No, it wasn't.
Dr. Phil and Shaq.
No, it's like, I think Dr. Phil goes to saw,
but then he saws the wrong leg.
It's like, really?
You couldn't tell you were sawing the wrong leg?
Yeah, that's not real.
Bit silly that, isn't it?
Let me think now, okay?
It would be Dr. Phil, okay?
Yeah.
And he try and gives Jigsaw counseling.
Yeah.
And then he'd be, but this isn't really like,
Dr. Phil's really matter, okay?
He'd be like, Jixaw, you are not the fader.
Woo!
Yeah!
Oh, right.
Yeah.
And then Shaq would throw a free throw.
There actually is a bit where it's like, oh, we'll be able to escape if you make a free throw.
Oh, yeah.
And he misses, obviously.
Oh, I'm so fucking smart.
You're vindicated now.
And all right, look, let's get back to it.
So two guys wake up in a room.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why are we here?
There's a dead guy in the middle of the room.
Yeah.
Now, spoiler alert for all these films, okay?
They don't touch the dead guy.
You don't kick it.
Well, aren't they chained though, right?
Yeah, but they get out of the chains
and they still don't go near the dead guy.
Oh, really?
I think they could probably tickle his feet or something, you know?
Isn't that a thing, like, is he missing something?
Or the dead guy, is he headless or something like that?
He's got a big hole in his head.
Okay.
Well, it turns out that's just movie prosthetics.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's the real jigsaw.
Okay, yeah.
That's the big twist.
Yeah, that's the big twist that the guy who is dead in the middle, like...
He stands up at the end.
So they never actually tried to find out.
who he is or anything
he was just a random dead guy and they didn't try to be
like do you know him no I don't know him
it's like oh dead guy
immediately that's very dumb
yes yeah yeah okay so
that's the first film is basically like
oh why are we in this room yeah oh there's a guy
called jicksaw and he likes to mess with
people and Danny Glover's the detective
right okay and then
he is too old for this shit he really
is yeah and there's a funny bit in it where they're
like oh this guy sets up loads of traps
let's go to the let's go to the
let's go to his house and not tell anyone.
Yeah.
And they're like, do we need...
Should we call backup?
Nah, no need.
Backups for pussies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, like, you know, he's got the two guys in the room.
He's like, oh, you got to kill one guy or else he'll kill your family.
Right.
That's kind of like this moral, like, oh, what would you do?
Would you play his twisted game?
Kill my fucking family.
What do I care?
Do it.
That is the running team.
I always take of these films.
It's been funny if it was like someone like me where it's like, yeah.
Yeah, good.
Sweet.
That bitch.
Yeah, yeah, saving me a lot of headaches.
So that's the first film.
Very kind of like, ooh, turns out it was a twist, the end, all right?
Wasn't there a big thing, like the guy he saws his own leg off to get out or something?
He does and he crawls away.
Right, okay.
That's at the end, okay?
The next film.
So you got your first film done, nice low-budget feature with a cool idea.
And big impact, it resonates, people are like, holy shit, this is, because that was the whole thing was going back.
it's so fucked up and disturbing and sick and you know
well in the first film didn't really show a lot of the gore
yeah and later on they showed the gore and gore always looks silly
it does yeah it's hard to make especially kind of silly stuff like we're gonna rip out her
fucking rib bones yeah yeah either gonna pop out it's hard to make that look like
when it's big like huge ridiculous set pieces they're on like a conveyor belt
and it's like sawing off you know uh you know pickaxe goes up her
conch or something and you're like oh no it's like we would like me and the lads would have some cans
and shplafs to be like ha ha ha that's hilarious because we were rock and roll dudes you know were you
into soul as a kid no no i remember we did like we watched a couple of them at a gaff party
but we were all drinking and we were all just kind of like laugh and it's like yeah yeah yeah
that's fucking that's you up the time with the that fat one when you were fingering her
you know that type of shit
I missed out on all that
I was just sitting on my own and being like
I'm pointing at myself
and I'm like that's like you
that's like you Brian
yeah
you've got like your stuffed animal collection
yeah there was a kid
two kids in my school who are really
in the saw that's a red flag
isn't it yeah like really in the saw
and would like describe all the traps
to you yeah while you were just
sitting there trying to do your geography
you know he's like a dude a dead
in the next trap
there's a big fucking thing
wrapped around his head
and if the timer goes
his head will split open
like a fucking apple
fucking awesome
I get so fucking hard
watching that shit
I remember being so scared
because I was like
people hear him talking
but they
if I reply back
I'm now part of this
it kind of seems like you're with him
but you're just
I get you yeah
he's the mouth
and I'm the brain
you're like spastic
by association
you're a mentalist by association
that guy also no joke was also really big
into the Kirk Cobain suicide
Oh
Draw spots tickets
Oh yeah
This guy sounds pretty awesome
Where does he now
He is our list
He's our fan base
Now he's like a crypto billionaire
Probably
I do remember one thing
I don't want to
Ah who's not gonna listen
No go on
There was a girl he liked in school
I remember
Yeah
Okay and then like
We went on like some school trip
and for some reason we got two small buses
instead of one big one
we were that type of school
sure yeah yeah yeah is that what they told you
it's like oh we have to put you on the short bus
for a financial reasons
just you
yeah just you and saw
saw guy
yeah and he's just there going
live or die I'm like oh I'm stuck with this now
I want to play a game
so I remember like there's a girl he liked
and we
the girl sat on a different bus
with a man
with it with it
not a man
like a growing adult
with another guy
another student
right
and he was there
was sitting beside
a Chad
was he a big Chad
was he a big Chad
yeah
big Chad
just lifting
all the time
all the time
all right
yeah
I remember like
she was on one bus
and he could see her
right
okay
and I'm like
two rows down
I can hear
on proper
like just proper
like twirk
tweaking basically
going like
what the fuck she's
sitting there
she knows
what the fucking
she's trying to piss me off
fucking fuck fuck
like she probably made the bus driver
drive right beside us
so I can see
he's probably
he's probably paid the bus driver
what do you call it
like stopping short
yeah short stop
yeah
like stopping it
so like she goes back
and he can touch her tits
that's a perfect saw game
right there
look at this schmohawk
touch her tits
you decide
okay so
yeah he was being a saw
so did he get the girl
on the end
no
Oh, it's sad.
I don't know what happened to him.
It's best not to look it up.
So that was Saw 1, all right?
Saw 2.
It's like, how do you make a sequel?
Donnie Wahlberg.
Yes.
Yeah.
So Saw 2 is Donnie Wahlberg, and he like bursts in on Jixaw.
And he's like, I got you now, punk.
And jikso's like, really?
And then he puts on a video feed, it's his son.
Donny Warburg's son is in the trap.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
And then like...
And it's just like...
Just a black guy.
on a conveyor belt with a hard dick
just going closer to his son.
No, don't let my son be a little fake.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that film, like,
there's like a girl in the trap
with the son. Yeah.
Who's like, oh, I'm scared, but turns out
she's an accomplice of Jixot.
Was she like the junkie bitch?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't there a bit where like she falls into a pit
full of dirty needles?
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good, isn't it?
Because that's so funny because, like,
it's like, someone's got to get in there
with all the needles and get the key
and some guy just picks it up and throws her in.
That's right. Yeah, yeah.
Stan, what's it?
Walk your own way.
Yeah, yeah.
Back when men were men, Brian.
So the second movie ends with
the girl turns out she's evil
and she locks Donnie Wahlberg
in like in the closet or something.
Yeah.
She's like, game over.
And the sun was actually all right
the whole time, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The video feed was from a week ago.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
The third film,
if I know, I believe,
the third film is like
he kidnaps a doctor
right and she's got to do surgery
but just like DIY
just with a drill and a saw
yeah yeah you know
and the thing is like
he ties like
a collar around her neck
and the collar will explode
if his heart stops
okay so that's motivation for her
to like do the surgery correctly
but at the same time
there's a guy in one of the
big mazes
yeah and JXo's like
around your son
died in a drug driving accident.
I have all the people
responsible here and you can decide
if they live or die.
Yeah. So it's like, you know, the woman who saw
and didn't say anything. Right. Right. The guy who was driving,
the evil judge.
Judge who let him off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're all like, you know, the judge gets
drowned in pig fat. That's right, yeah.
There's a bit where like pigs
are like liquefied. Yeah.
And then the judge drowns
in liquefied pigs.
Yeah. Yeah. See, is that meant to be scary?
it's just retarded and like the whole thing's like it's huge big set pieces they get more and more elaborate
it's like what's the dude is it the same guy the whole time it's his name's kramer yeah yeah john kramer is
his name yeah yeah and his whole backstory is um he had cancer no well in the in the in the third film like
he had cancer and decided to like make other people appreciate life right and later on you find
out he also had like a hot wife who was pregnant right and the wife got most of
did she have a miss card and he was like there's only one thing to do now how can he afford all this
shit and what's his background that he can design all these things i think he's like an engineer
or something so it's very like loose and silly it's very loosey-goosey yeah there's no point being like
oh it's not like you know how did joey and chandler afford the apartment you know it's damn
good question if you ask me yeah no one said that before yeah it is like that but like you're
right later on the film it's like in the films he's proper got like basically read it out
an entire building
full of traps
He probably had to get
a bunch of
fucking illegal
immigrant workers
like Mr. Kramer
wants us to build
the big vet
to liquefy the big
but we're not allowed
to ask what he wanted for
Jorge
could you come here please
this really isn't
the planning permission
that I approved
I mean this is going
way over budget
I'm sorry Mr. Kramer
but this is what we have to do
and your cousin
he's smoking the
Gondja, what's going on here?
What's funny is, the
Kramer in it, John Kramer, is
Jixaw. Jigsaw is very old already in the
films. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they keep doing
flashbacks where, like, he's
dating like a hot bitch. Yeah,
but he's still old as well. He's getting older.
So they keep doing flashbacks further
and further back where he's looking older and
older. It's very funny.
And he's, like, dating a girl, and she's like,
we're going to start a family. He's like,
yeah, we're going to start
a family.
John, are you going to
ask me to prom?
Yeah, I'm going to take you to prom
and we're going to go
all the way, Stacey.
Oh, John, you're the best
quarterback the school's ever had.
I know, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, in the third film,
it ends with, it turns out
the guy with the kid who died from drunk driving.
Yeah. That was the husband
of the doctor he kidnapped.
Right, oh, wow.
The final test, all right, was
if the doctor could forgive
no if the drunk driver guy could forgive
saw uh jigsaw
and but he he doesn't
sounds like this movie's a bit too cerebral
for you bro yeah I can't keep track
of all the characters
but isn't it like they always had to do
like a really stupid plot twist
where you're like oh my god
and they always play that
do do do do do do like
like oh god
game over yeah so basically
in the third film he dies
yeah okay in the fourth film
it's
starts off with them cutting up his body
and they find a tape recorder
in his stomach and it turns out
he planned another crazy
jigsaw adventure
how fucking coked up are these
cunts at this point that they're just like
but he's dead what do we do
I know
yeah
somebody passed me
Pryor's kid
I forgot in Saw 4
okay yeah this is hilarious
in Saw 4 the kind of plot
is that
Jixaw wants an apprentice
so he finds
a black cop who's like
disillusioned with the system
and they show like
why the cop is disillusioned with the system
all right
and there's a flashback where like
the black cop is like
he's talking to a little girl
and he's like
little Stacy
did the bad man touch you
you can tell me I'm a cop
and the girl's like
well
am and then they show
this isn't a police station now
they show the guy who's accused
proper like shaking his fist at her
cram it
Stacey
You better
Doing the thing around his neck
Yeah
Yeah
One of these days
Stacy
One of these days
And then the cop turns around
He goes back to normal
Like
Yeah
So then he's like
The little girl
So he didn't touch her
And of course the guy's like
Oh exactly
And you'll be hearing
From my lawyer
Yeah
Yeah
It's all lies man
So it's
Jixot is trying to recruit the cop
But in the end it turns out
A different cop is the apprentice of Jixot
Oh right, okay, wow, yeah
It's just like the
The thing is as the sequels went on
The uh
It just got more less
More fucking ridiculous
And nonsensical
The set pieces got more elaborate
And like the big reveal or whatever
It just was more retarded and loose
And just didn't really work
But don't question it
But again like you know
As we can't
I kind of said there at the start, it's like, why would you
who the fuck is actually
deconstructing saw for
its artistic merit? It's
torture porn. You get what you're paying for.
The fifth one is very low effort.
Really? Yeah. The fifth one, a bunch of
people
wake up
fucking in some, again, another
like huge, like Crystal Mays style
series of traps.
And they've all done something
bad, James. Oh, right.
But like the bad things they've done is like, oh, she
worked in city planning and she took a broad
It's like that level
So now, yeah
So now she has to watch her children
Be liquefied
And then somebody fuck the remains
Yeah, so it's like
They all have to like solve these things
But at the end it turns out James
That like
They were meant to work together
Right
But they fought with each other
And that's why they all died at the end
So it's a team building exercise
Yeah, yeah
It's just a corporate retreat gone wrong
Just cut off your arm
That's a team building thing
And then this is solo effort
Like the new cop, the new jigsaw
Yeah
He's getting chased by a different cop
Who's like, I'm on to you
Cause the the jigsaw
The new, we'll call him Hoffman
All right
Hoffman Hoffman's the new jigsaw
And Hoffman's always like
Looking at the traps
You know when they find the traps after
It's like gee whoever
Did this must have been
Some kind of genius
Yeah
Wink you know
So then the cop's trying to capture
Hoffman
But at the end
Hoffman kills the cop
And that's how it ends
It's like wow
Not even a twist
Yeah, it's just like whatever
Because at this stage you're like
Hey, we're coming out every Halloween baby
Yeah, how many did you
Did you watch in the end?
Seven I think
You watched all seven
Yeah, up until 3D
Jesus
But you didn't get the 3D
Experience
No, I didn't
Which is funny because I watched
the trailer for Saw 3D
And the whole thing is that like
The hands will like
Yeah, yeah
There's hands reach out of the screen
And pick you up
Out of your seat and shake you around
Yes, I went to see Saw 3D
Was it fun?
It wasn't fun no
you want to finish up or will I tell my
little anecdote. Tell your story.
All right. Well, okay, so this is about 10
years ago it came out. I was
like out the night before because I was the
rock and roll dude. But now I was doing like
I took a load of yokes or whatever so I was
like coming down scagging real bad.
I get back to the gaff. It's like
fucking 11 in the morning but I've lost my
keys and there's nobody in the gaff to let me
in. So I'm like ringing around as like
anybody home, anybody even in a different
gaff I could go over to and everyone's
like no, no, no. So I was like
right what will I do to kill a couple hours
I know I'll go to the cinema
and like the only thing that was showing
was Saw 3D so I went to see
Saw 3D because it was like snowing
I had no choice I had to fucking
It was that or dying the snow
Yeah exactly yeah so I went to see Saw 3D
while I was coming down off pills
And it was fucking horrific man
There were like lumps of flesh
flying at me and shit
I was like your one that in the counter
was like do you want to see it in 2D or 3D
and me like a fucking retard
said 3D big mistake
2D wouldn't have been much better
but at least there wouldn't have been
lumps of flesh firing
flying at me
it was horrible man
it was a horrible experience
yeah and I don't
I don't even like Saw
so like I wouldn't have been psyched
to see it anyway
but that was just like
the worst possible conditions
imagine from the woman
in the cinema's point of view
where it's like it's air in the morning
and you just show up
and you're clearly gagging
yeah it's like scagging off yokes
I'm just in bits.
Yeah, you clearly like just like
worse for wear
and you're all cold and shivery
and you're like,
I love Saw.
One for Saw 3D please.
It's like Jesus Christ.
But anyway, yeah.
Awful experience.
I don't even remember the film
because I literally watched it
like with my,
I was,
I tried to go to sleep
while the screaming
was happening.
It was horrible.
So we'll just wrap up really quick.
Yeah.
The sixth saw a movie.
That's where it gets political.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's where Jixaw's like,
you charge predatory interest rates
on loans
Oh really?
Yeah
Does it go into the fucking
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Exactly yeah
And Bernie made off
The whole plot is like
There's a cartoonishly evil boss
Right
Who runs a company
He's like
Hmm let's fire the pregnant woman
He he he he
Yeah
Oh the janitor
Let's kick him in the face
Because that will
Up productivity
Synergy synergy
Yeah
No he's just like a real
cartoonish guy
Right, right.
And then Jixot puts him a load of traps,
but it's funny because, like, the boss is never in danger.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
The boss is, there, Jigsaw is like,
I've captured your janitor,
and you've got to decide if you want to kill the janitor to secretary.
And he's like, ugh.
And in the film, he's like, oh, no, the janitor, I loved him both.
Right, right.
But, no, that wouldn't happen to be like.
Yeah, and he was like,
This is awesome.
Look, kill them both.
What do I care?
I get to watch this for free.
Yeah, yeah.
Is there a subscription service or something?
Usually I have to wait for an invite to little St. James to get this kind of fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's a...
That's so...
I kind of lose track out there.
I saw seven.
So, I think...
Well, that was all six.
Saw seven is a 3D one.
And then at the end, I think it turns out that, like, the guy from the first film was also working with...
Right, yeah.
also jigsaw's wife was working with jigsaw's multiple apprentices so dumb it's so fucking stupid the whole thing
but are you are you psyched for spiral now well i still got to see jicksaw oh was there another one
yeah they made a movie called jicksaw about three years ago okay that was meant to be the reboot
is that like a or was it a prequel uh no it's just like a copycat okay who is also uh an apprentice
of Jigsaw's manny
apprentices
Yeah,
fucking hell
he's like
the safe pass
didn't he
like every
fucking retard
who was
on the dole
ended up
working for
fucking
Jigsaw
Yeah
he's got a
bunch of kids
who really
care about
a chicken fillet
roll
and a packet
of benching
and hedges
and now
I'm gonna go
Saw
an illegal
immigrant
and half
Ah sure
and the
Spirles
in ninth film
the series
okay
apparently
Spirle's done
so well
it's
Saw is now
a billion
dollar franchise
Wait, it did well financially
Yeah, apparently did really well
Not critically though
The Saw fans like it
Really? Yeah, yeah
Okay
Because there was that
Movie review from The Guardian
Yeah, the Guardian didn't like it
Carmode didn't like it
What were they saying about it?
Oh, it lacks subtle taste
Yeah, yeah
Made me actually want to watch it
Okay
So that's all the Saw movies
And it's Chris Rock
That's doing spiral as well
Very interesting choice
But anyway
Hey
Don't knock it till you try it
But like
Will I be out of the loop
Having not seen
I think
I think you will be out of the loop
So I have to watch all the saws
I think if you want to fit in anywhere
You gotta watch all the saw movies
Otherwise you're just gonna be left
Someday in the future
Okay you'd be at a dinner party all right
Yeah
And they'll be talking
You'd be like
Oh does anyone
What about
Palestine
And look at you like a freak
You're like
Oh you don't know
Who let in this shit
I'm sure.
We're talking spiral here.
We're talking John Kramer's legacy.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, this has been a fun one.
So we went, yeah, this was a wild one now.
You know what's so funny?
When I was originally, I'd get kind of caught up in the moment sometimes.
Yeah.
I was watching these song movies like, God, this could be like a, this could be like a tree part episode.
I was like so into it.
I was like, fucking just so much, the fucking mythology and the lore.
A rich tapestry.
Yeah.
It's kind of like, it's like a, it's like a, a.
drug where it's like
oh this is
fucking
but then it wears off
the second you
like walk away
like oh no
that was
that was nothing
that was
a load of shite
yeah
yeah
and they're all
it's the same
it's the same
film seven times
like
but they're making
they're already
uh
confirmed
the will be saw X
oh
saw 10
and the companion
TV series
Jesus Christ
so
so the spiral
has really
breathed new life
into the franchise
spiral is
there's going to be
spiral two
well I think
what they want
is they're going
a spiral series
and a saw series
it's going to be
a whole
like the Marvel
universe
and it's all
going to
intertwine
and they'll
probably get
John Kramer
back
and like
you'd be like
you know
I think
they should just
go full on
like mystical
or like
from the grave
yeah
yeah yeah
but the problem
with these films
is they kill
them off
in fucking
part three
yeah
he also had
this planned
yeah
he had all this shit
planned out
yeah
he had
fucking
of this
I'm not
of Matt's. I think he had like six
films worth of
worth of plans and tricks and traps
all set up. Yeah.
While dying of cancer.
Yeah, he was a multitasker.
See, he fucking, he does it. You can pretty
get out of bed. I know, right? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. God.
Yeah. Well, that's, we're
going to wrap up there now. Yeah, we'll
finish off now. Have you
got anything else? Sorry,
I just, I just hit a wall there.
You're a bit tired, so we're going to forgive it.
give you gold what more do you want i'll tell you what we'll do we'll do we'll tease the patreon go on
that's what we'll do yeah so as i said before let's see what we can talk about in the patreon
we can talk about army of the dead oh yes new zack snider movie that's what the kids are into
meant to be dog shit uh we can talk about john sina offending china sweet yeah yeah
i haven't paid attention to that at all so you're gonna have to fill me in there's a
Muslim woman writing a book about being
a horny Muslim.
Oh, yes, please. Yes.
Dear Penthouse. Yeah.
I never thought it happened to me.
We can talk about Kevin Spacey
is back. Oh, the King,
return of the king. Guys, you
need to switch over to the Patreon. Oh, I tell you what,
I watched Don't Mess with the Zohan.
Oh, that's so funny. I watched it as well.
Did you? Yeah. Oh, we can talk about on the Patreon.
Well, look. Don't talk about it now. Okay.
Or I'll hit you.
Much like.
Israel. I live in fear.
And we will talk about my
uncle. Yeah. We'll talk about
Harry Kane is on the transfer market.
I know you're
fucking so excited about that. Yeah, yeah.
Jesus. I'll tell you, we'll end on this. So
Harry Kane is a football player, right?
Yeah. A football man, all right?
Mr. Football, they call him. He plays with
Tottenham, but he's literally too good for Tottenham.
Right. And he wants to leave. Tottenham, I'm a
Tottenham fan where shit. Right.
Where shit Harry deserves better.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, imagine you with a girlfriend, though, right?
and she was like
oh James
should I stay with you
or marry Zach Ephron
well
you know
big mistake
time will tell
on that one
he'll probably be
ugliest shit
in two years
whereas me
I can only get better
couldn't possibly
get worse
but I listen to a podcast
I'll listen to a Tottenham
fan podcast
all right
sure
yeah
while painting
you know
a nice nice chill day
and
there was the fans
found out he made a transfer
request during the
episode. Oh. Yeah.
So he got to see the guy's heartbreak
live. Nice. It was very
fun to watch. Like, what's his name?
Cronkite reading about JFK's
assassination. It was so funny. Was it
Cronkite? I think it was Cronkoy.
Oh, who cares? Yeah. As if
anyone gives it enough to be like,
actually,
it was
Dick Cavett. The guy's
like, oh, I just saw on Twitter there.
Harry Kane wants to leave.
And the other guy was like, what do you mean?
What, what do you mean?
He couldn't.
What, what, what, what you mean?
It says he wants to leave.
What, what you mean?
It don't make sense.
What you mean?
He wants to leave.
He doesn't want to be in the club anymore.
He wants to leave.
What, what, what you mean?
Where are you seeing that?
You see not on Twitter.
It says on Sky News.
What, where's I saying that?
I said Sky News.
But that, but that's the media.
can't trust the media
god i you know i'm almost envious of people that like care that much about football
it's great i wish i could be emotionally invested in anything like that it's so good man you switch
off everything else you're not you're forcing it though brian no i know the truth i do you're
acting like you're just as deeply involved but you're not really i would die for whatever
football team wins yeah yeah oh we can also talk about the hs c cyber attacks oh yeah
We've got loads of stuff to talk about guys.
So that's fucking jam-packed.
Patreon.
Yeah, Jesus, we're nearly an hour and 20.
And I always say we should keep this an hour.
And we get fucking too excited.
Well, let's just end it now then.
We just get too horny.
Yeah.
So, okay, guys, thanks for listening.
Thanks for listening.
Goodbye.
I'm going to eat pizza.
Oh.