Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 121 : Mary Boyle and the Donegal Mafia

Episode Date: June 28, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 good evening good what oh bel end good evening that's what you get legit before we hit record it's like
Starting point is 00:00:09 try to be a little bit more serious this one let's be professional James you stumbled at the first hurdle oh my god
Starting point is 00:00:16 that was pathetic let's not be silly here I told with you Walter Cronkite there was like I'm addressing the nation here
Starting point is 00:00:25 yeah you're Walter Cronkite about two days before the end resident Wennettett Wendanty is wed.
Starting point is 00:00:32 That was more wassy than Kronkite, wasn't it? Okay, no, serious. Yeah, okay. We're talking about a dead child here. Yes. So take that smile off your face. I can't. Now when there's dead children involved, this is painted all year out.
Starting point is 00:00:48 So anyway, look, we were silly there, right? But we're being serious. Yep. Okay. So we're going to talk about the Ireland's longest disappeared child. child. Yes. A child went missing
Starting point is 00:01:02 in the 70s. Yep. The cops couldn't figure it out. The journalists couldn't figure it out. The police. They're cops. They are. The Gardy either.
Starting point is 00:01:12 The media. Yeah. No one could figure it out, but Brian and James. Well, really, I'd love to take credit for this, but this is all you, Brian. This is B-Dog, just rocking the Woodward and Bernstein vibes. I went deep in this episode, which means I went on the Reddit. Yeah. And suffered another psychotic break.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yes. Yeah, I was like, how can I fix this? 4chan, that's why I need. What actually, may I ask, what got you on? So we're talking about the disappearance of Mary Boyle. Yes. So she's a girl that disappeared. In the 70s.
Starting point is 00:01:46 In the 70s and Donegal. Why, why now, Brian? Why not? What, what... This has been something that'll be on my radar for a long time. Okay, see, I'd never heard of it. Well, I knew about it from the Gemmo Doherty connection. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So this was one of Gemmo Daugherty's big cases. Now, the problem is... GOD, you never stared us run before. This is the problem. She's kind of like shit in her own house here, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now she's done a lot of legitimate stories. From back in the day.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, but when you bring it up, they're like, oh, you like Gemmaudderty, don't you, Brian? Well, it's like that old analogy, Patrice O'Neill used to say. It's like, now I could come up and tell you that 2 plus 2 equals 4. and then you go oh yeah you're right two plus two does equal four
Starting point is 00:02:31 and then later on you could find out that I shove marbles up my ass now just because I shove marbles up my ass doesn't mean doesn't stop two plus two equaling four yeah you know what I mean so yes what was his point was he talking about
Starting point is 00:02:46 he was talking about Mary Boyle I think he was talking about Alex Jones actually but um but just people of that ilk people that have kind of that's the thing they kind of start off looking into legitimate you know conspiracy and things that don't add up and there's corruption and cover up but then they go way too far and then before you know it she's saying that you know the
Starting point is 00:03:07 troubles were all fake and you know there's nazis on the moon leo isn't really indian yeah yeah he is trust me i've done my research uh but yeah yeah so that's um so um and you did make a good point there like these people they start off doing legitimate research yeah and jem odori is a great example of this. You find out a few untruths and you find out the lack of justice. Yeah. And just the lack of caring for some victims. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And the, some people go like, huh, that's crazy and then just go home, be like, honey, I'm home, had a crazy day at journalism. At journalism camp. Yeah. Yeah. But other people go, have a psychotic break. Yeah, they just go mental. And like,
Starting point is 00:03:53 rightly so. Because that's the thing. It will break your brain. Like, if you keep going further and further into the fucking the rabbit hole and uncovering more and more shit, I kind of, I think the average person has a complete inability to comprehend just how truly sick and evil some of the cunts in the world really are. Yeah. And that's good. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:04:15 If you can be like, you know, that's sort of blissfully ignorant or naive, I do envy that. It's great for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can take advantage of these sheep. Yeah, that's what I meant. No, I just meant that's good. you're a happy person and good on you but then there are freaks like me
Starting point is 00:04:31 and you like just can't stop researching this shit oh yeah James yeah the detective dissolving crimes he's a freak is that how you see yourself your fucking your pro pyro are you is that why you're trying to Colombo goddamma
Starting point is 00:04:46 just one more thing Gemma why did the Mary Boyle go I'm sorry we were not meant to be silly in this one yeah we're not being silly okay so yeah but it can just it can really fucking warp your mind if you so like keep looking into this shit
Starting point is 00:05:03 gemo doherty just real quick I've done research on so the two big people in Ireland that would be considered like crazy quotation marks whack ado yeah okay would be Gemo Doherty and John Waters yes okay so we'll get to Gemo Doherty first alright so she was just a regular journalist yeah doing good stories
Starting point is 00:05:23 yeah she was like oh um you know some politicians get stopped by the guards and they don't get penalty points because they're politicians. Yeah. Okay, stuff like that. Oh, what? I bet you think they're all lizards
Starting point is 00:05:35 to you, mental bitch. People, no, yeah, but... Yeah. No, like she was a, yeah, she was like a well-respected journalist, you know? Credible, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she started looking to this... Well, she looked in a lot of stories
Starting point is 00:05:47 that, like, did not have happy endings, all right? Yeah. And that probably wasn't good for her. You know, she looked up to Mary Boyle thing, for example, and we'll get into it. There's a lot of dark secrets and a lot of things where it's like, okay, everyone says this is true and everyone says
Starting point is 00:06:01 they saw this and they know it's true. Yeah. But because this guy's powerful, we can't do anything. Literally, yeah. So I could literally say, this guy, I could point to him on live TV and go, this guy is a murderer paedophile. He can be like,
Starting point is 00:06:17 ha ha, I think someone's got their facts wrong, my dear. And he can just get away with it. That's not really how he's saying. What are you on a boy? I think that's not. But yeah, yeah, yeah. He has that vibe, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's why he's seen on the inside, okay? No, no, because, like, that's the character. He goes, oh, Jesus, no, I didn't know. But then behind closed doors, uh-huh, I think Peter Rabbit has gotten into the garden shed a little too many times and may need to be, uh, uh, yes. But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, so she sees all this and she sees how powerless.
Starting point is 00:06:55 like a journalist can be. Yeah. And how powerless the police can be. And the families. And it's like we have the facts. We have a lot of people saying this is the guy. He did it. We all know he did it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And like, yeah, literally from the highest levels, you know, police have been told, don't look into it. Don't say anything. Keep your mouth shut. Yeah. So Jim O'Darty, this obviously isn't great for someone, okay? Yeah. And then I think around the same time our husband died.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Okay. Yeah, yeah. So you add the grief factor on it as well. The big thing was she was doing the story again about the penalty points, okay? Yeah. And she got fired from the independent, the Irish independence. Right, yeah. Because she was harassing members of the police and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:07:39 By calling them up and going like, can I talk to you? And this is this penalty points scandal that was also word out, like the whistleblower. And what was his name, Pat or no, but... It's not Martin Cattle. Morris McCabe. Morris McCabe was the whistleblower. Yeah, yeah. And then they were like,
Starting point is 00:07:55 ah, he's a paedophile. He's a paedophile. And then afterwards, they were like, oh, did we, we made a mistake. Yeah, they literally said,
Starting point is 00:08:01 oh, somebody accidentally copied and pasted a segment from another report into this report, and he's not actually a paedophile. It's like, Hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't know how all these technical gadgets work. It'd be funny if, like, they just fall on copy and pastes Gary Glitters Wikipedia into him. He was like, I didn't know he wrote songs as well. You want him being,
Starting point is 00:08:24 in my gang my gang my gang you want to be in my gang Maurice McCabe's music was used in the Joker but yeah so all this she gets fired just grief just like
Starting point is 00:08:37 so much injustice so of course you would start going a little bit mental absolutely and then you know when you start going mental it's like you're rolling a hill down the
Starting point is 00:08:47 you're rolling a mountain you're rolling a nail in this analogy dealer you're rolling a nail in the coffin down the hill at the kettles black in the garden shed where you're throwing stones through the glass house
Starting point is 00:09:01 yes no I think it's the snowball effect starts rolling down the hill and picking up more seeing gets bigger and bigger yeah that's what I meant to say I know I know the I got too excited about fucking all the mysteries and shit I can't focus on words
Starting point is 00:09:16 yeah no I get you you do the talking well you're the one who's done the research oh you're right actually yeah yeah my bad so that's kind of like the Gemma Daugherty thing. Now at the moment she's been sued by a few people. Well, here's the thing as well.
Starting point is 00:09:29 What, you know, I think absolutely I agree with everything you just said there. There is a legitimate, you know, you can see where her decline starts happening and for reasons that many of people empathetic could understand. But what then she really goes out of her way
Starting point is 00:09:45 to make herself the poster child of oh, you know, she really kind of, you know, doesn't do herself any favors with the way she advertises herself and then she's going into fucking like you know halal meat shops and going
Starting point is 00:09:58 where's the rashers do you like rashers do you know what I mean and he's just like what what you don't like rashers do you my next big story this is Ireland get out of our country
Starting point is 00:10:08 do you know what I mean and then it's like all with stuff like you know let's say there's a poster with a black man on it should be pointing out going like huh see see
Starting point is 00:10:17 yeah this is what I was talking about well what's wrong with kneeling down if you're tired he got in the way it's not Derek's fault yeah you know shit like that yeah I think she was saying that like
Starting point is 00:10:30 you know very crisis actors George Floyd all that yeah George Fly is an actor he was on Eeyr was he really wow well there you go truth the truth finally comes out yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:10:41 but like all that kind of stuff and then like there was a clip recently going around with her and John Waters where they were like Leo Varadkar he's not Irish he's not really Irish he's Indian he should be working on a bus
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah, she did actually say that Or an Indian restaurant Yeah, he's He's Indian, not Irish She should be working in a Chinese Jesus, Gemma You're all over the place there So she was with John Waters
Starting point is 00:11:08 And we'll We'll get into Mary Ball in a second But let's just talk with John Waters for a second So Now he's an interesting cat as well Okay, he's a real hip cat Yeah So John Waters
Starting point is 00:11:19 Looks like the fucking caretaker of Hogwarts Doesn't he? He's a fucking ghouly, ghoulish-looking cunct. And he's looked like that for the last 50 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's never been young and cool, okay? So, not the director. Not the overly gay, camp, flamboyant director.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Overly gay, James. No such thing. I meant overly, not overly. All right, okay, he said, a big quail! Sorry, no, but yes, but that's his whole, his whole thing is like, I'm the outrageous camp. Yeah, yeah, that was the whole thing. He's outrageous, yeah. me all right
Starting point is 00:11:53 fucking leave me alone leave me alone I've got depression so John Waters we call him straight John Waters
Starting point is 00:11:59 okay that's an insult where I'm from my friend so he goes career he was writing for hot press
Starting point is 00:12:06 all right it's a red flag oh yeah anyone who writes for hot press is scum evil evil
Starting point is 00:12:13 scum who doesn't return my messages should be working the Chinese restaurant yeah you hear that talent you should be on a bus
Starting point is 00:12:21 Talon is Indian We should start that Yeah That's a great rumor to start Because it's not in any way bad No You're man I hear he's Indian You didn't hear it from me
Starting point is 00:12:35 A little bird he talks me I actually Just sidetrack for a second I lived with a guy Who's an Indian All right This is my big coming out party Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah But he looked a lot Like another one of my friends All right And now this Indian guy lived with Good looking guy Yeah You know
Starting point is 00:12:55 You know bigger than me Stronger than me You know Probably he's more friends than me Okay Probably he's a better podcast He's in the new Marvel movie
Starting point is 00:13:05 He's ripped He's friends with T.J. Miller Oh so cool But anyway So I knew another guy And I said to him one time Hey you look like an Indian guy I know
Starting point is 00:13:17 And he got offended Oh really Yeah he was like What the fuck you mean by that Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Well, that's not okay.
Starting point is 00:13:24 A bit like a trap there, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. You should do that. You go around and tell them that to everyone. You look like an Indian. Just screaming at people. He's breaking a woman's house. Indian!
Starting point is 00:13:36 Ah, yeah. Well, I don't know. This friend doesn't sound like a good person, Brian. I hope you reported them. I reported him, yeah, immediately. I knee-capped him, sir, away. He's probably, I mean, he probably knows what happened to Mary Boyle. I mean, if I were to put two and two in two,
Starting point is 00:13:50 together. Yeah. So anyway, as I was saying, working for hot press. Yes. And then the Irish Independent. Okay. And he was a big supporter of, like, Catholic causes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So the church and stuff like that. He was a big supporter of them? Yeah, yeah. And a lot of, like, you know, Catholics are mistreated way worse than Jews. Okay. Which, you know, we can get into that. It's all true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Well, look, okay, yes. But, you know, come on. Do you really have to... But no, but he was just, you know, Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it was He was just a big support of like hey Christians We've got to stick together Okay
Starting point is 00:14:26 Don't let anyone else take you down You know Yeah Don't listen to the naysayers And the haters Yeah yeah Yath Queen He started to date
Starting point is 00:14:34 Sheney O'Connor Oh okay Now I thought he just dated her He actually has a daughter with her Whoa really? Called Roshin Oh my God Apparently Roshin still lives with John Waters
Starting point is 00:14:45 So I couldn't find out much But that's Jesus What her story is Oh, man, I mean, I'm sorry, but... If you mixed those two to get it. Yeah. I love Shnade O'Connor, but you mixed those two.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? Tell me why. She ripped up the Pope, didn't she? Yeah, that's true. You got me there? Wish I had the balls to do that. You got me there? Checkmate, Tuler. Yeah. Yeah, she made everyone S&L feel nervous.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah. Not an easy thing to do. They're the most badass dudes around. Yeah, yeah. Who would have been on that time? That's 90s one. That was like 92. So you're talking like Sandler and Farley, right?
Starting point is 00:15:23 I bet she didn't like them. No, probably not. You'll actually not take it back. I think she's a bit of a cunt because she didn't like Andrew Dice Clay. Yeah, that's right, yeah. Actually, fuck her, actually. Oh, hicka, dicker, re-knack. Sheenade was shook in my cack.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, you know, the whole thing was he was supposed to be on, I think he was supposed to host it and she's a musical guest. She was like, I will not do it with Andrew Dice Clay. He's bad. I will not do it without Andrew Joyce Clay. It's absolutely disgraceful. Who's having the last laugh now Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:52 You're still mentally ill And he's fucking Dice, Dice, Dice Dice! The Dice man cometh all over your face Love Ruud legs Sorry, we were meant to get silly
Starting point is 00:16:04 We were talking about dead children No, that's not how you respond to that Anyway, go on Yeah, dead children go So he was dating to Niel O'Connor Had a daughter where he was also an alcoholic During this time Which kind of explains a lot
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah Maybe that's why she ripped up the Pope if she thought it was John Waters Like take that That would be funny if they're all like This is against a Catholic church And sexual abuse And she was like nah
Starting point is 00:16:27 My boyfriend's a dick Yeah He makes me do the dishes But he doesn't dry the dishes So he wrote a number of very successful books About religion Politics and you two Big U2
Starting point is 00:16:41 The Holy Trinity Oh my God This literally What's ruined Ireland Yeah It's like Could you imagine Have a few pites
Starting point is 00:16:48 With this guy he talks about how great Bono and Jesus are so he gets even cooler in 2010 he entered the Eurovision song contest oh wow he wrote the song
Starting point is 00:17:01 he didn't perform it okay probably trying to like oh I can do what Chenade does yes a piece of piss isn't it yeah his song came last he got the least number of votes
Starting point is 00:17:10 in the entire competition ha tick that do you know what it was called something very generic like Shanade's a bit It was something like we are together We are the people
Starting point is 00:17:27 Something very generic like that It wasn't like Free the Pitos Yeah it wasn't like Beeps with attitude Well you know what Historically Catholics have actually been persecuted more So he was a big supporter of Brexit
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh And IRX it Oh, he wanted like the Irish version Yeah, yeah Okay Which I never call him Because it doesn't sound right Doesn't I rexit
Starting point is 00:17:55 A rexit Or no A rexit dysfunction No That could be a funny If you did a political Comedy special Which I've been planning
Starting point is 00:18:03 For years As you will know When you go full Bill Maher Yeah Can we talk about I ragsit I mean This just sounds
Starting point is 00:18:14 Like you can't get hard That's what happens when you try to fuck white bitches am I right? Just Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. So he was Now, he kind of came to Provenant, he became big.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Prominence? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian doesn't like it when I pronounce the words right. I can't even think of another word. He got mega, he got famous. He got well popular in it. He got notoriety.
Starting point is 00:18:44 There you go. Pulled out with a bag like a rabbit. Oh, my mother. hard now. He got no variety during the gay marriage debate. Oh, right. And he was one of these big little pussies. I respect someone who goes, I don't like gay marriage because it's weird.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I respect that. They shouldn't be touching. It's weird. It makes me feel sick. No one can ever take this out of context. You keep going. But I, you know, I don't, I don't support it. No. But I go like... You respect somebody who's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Fair play to them for being so unapolitan. Legitically wrong. Let's have a parade for him. Yeah. No, but I hate it and he saw this a lot of people who are like, just because I didn't disagree with gay marriage doesn't mean I'm a homophobe. In fact, the accusation that
Starting point is 00:19:31 I am homophobic is homophobic in itself. Ah, yes. You're the real posse, you're the real cunt here. Yeah, so they're like, I don't mind what they do in the privacy of their own home, but just don't make me
Starting point is 00:19:49 I have to look at it. Don't do it in the supermarket. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, you might not remember this. There's a big debate over gay marriage.
Starting point is 00:20:00 You know, yay or nay. Yeah, why would I not remember it? This is you in your wild times, you know? Yeah, 2015. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That was when you're on the head shops and stuff, wasn't it? Not in 2015, no. I was clean then, man. You actually was clean then. I didn't like, I had quit doing drugs,
Starting point is 00:20:17 quit smoking, quit drinking, all of it. I kicked it all. And then the gays got married, and you're like, oh, oh, off the wagon. Yeah. Off the rainbow-colored wagon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it had lots of debate and RT about it, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yes. Oh, see, great for viewing figures. They got panty on. Panty, as in Panty Bliss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, guess which side of the divide Panty falls? Well, you know what? I used to go to the George quite regularly,
Starting point is 00:20:46 and I remember the Sunday night they'd have bingo and then the drag showcase I used to go there with my gay friends and take pills and dance the night away and this is like what are we talking like 2010 I was yeah yeah that's insane how different our lives were back then
Starting point is 00:21:04 you know like so I was like you know progressive and cool until it became cool to be progressive and cool and then I joined the right people you know That's crazy back then you were like disco partying You were basically doing Studio 54
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah pretty much Whereas what would I be doing in 2010? Did Inception come out? It had, yeah Yeah, I think I was just watching Inception over and over again Yeah, that was my version of like How that doesn't work? How do they have dreams in the dreams? I was just sitting there like, there's no gaze in Inception Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:36 I look back and like, thank God No one in Inception turned out Look at that Ellen page Now that's the top bird Oh, shaggyelic Yeah, yeah Yeah And good for him
Starting point is 00:21:52 And I voted yes in the referendum And my brother's a gay So I am covered baby I'm bulletproof Come at me I'm Goldman Sachs You ain't getting shit on me Peace
Starting point is 00:22:05 Anyway Go So yeah panty came on Okay And panty was like Oh no panty didn't say that How does panty sound I don't know, man
Starting point is 00:22:15 I was off my face the whole time I don't remember Hi, I'm Hello there I'm Panty Bliss Yes The Panty Bliss Well like
Starting point is 00:22:23 Panty Blas is their stage name So with Rory It's a guy It's Rory It's Rory, uh Rory Stories Rory stories Rory Story
Starting point is 00:22:31 Jesus You have a point Who ain't dress on you When you go to the guy They think you're a big fucking agent Eh Yeah I'm way more offended
Starting point is 00:22:42 By Rory's stories than Panty Blase Anyway So Rory No Panty Panty came on She said
Starting point is 00:22:50 That John Waters Was homophobic Yes This caused a big Shit show Yeah And then John Waters was like
Starting point is 00:22:57 Oh John did He basically Did the Big fake Like Oh Heaven mercy
Starting point is 00:23:01 Oh I'm a victim Oh And then he like sued RT for loads Of the money And RT
Starting point is 00:23:07 had to like grovel Really Yeah He won the case Yeah They just bent over
Starting point is 00:23:12 And John Waters heterosexually fucked them in the ass Yeah, yeah God, I really you know what I can kind of sympathize with Jemo Doherty
Starting point is 00:23:21 John Waters just sounds like a fucking bell end Oh he is Yeah Like an absolute chode You know Yeah he's a real embarrassment
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah Just a fucking gobsho There's a funny thing Once where he like Went to Electric Picnic in like 2014 I think And he wrote this big thing
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like There's nothing meaningful here Yeah It's all young people gallivanting they don't care about music And it's like, you're in your 50s He's one of those concerts
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like, they can't even name seven What would you think? What band would he like? Zeppelin? I think, yeah, Zeppelin, yeah. You don't even know Zeppelin. But you know status quo Or thin lizzie?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Ultra box. Roxy music. You don't know now, pal. I was a mod. So he's anti-vaccine. He's anti-immigration. Yeah. He doesn't believe depression's real.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Okay. Yeah, he's a... That's pretty funny with... Being in a relationship with Shadayette O'Connor. I'm depressed. Ah, give it over, love. Just having women's problems. I don't believe in depression, bipolar or bald.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Menstrual cycle. Just sounds like a gay bike. Come on, get up and do some work. Yeah, so... Now, here you like. this now. He recently and I mean like in last few days Sheney O'Connor has started
Starting point is 00:24:48 to change the org position to get John Waters and Gemmauderdy arrested. Wow. For inciting racial hate. Okay. So once again people are like oh Gem is so racial hate really? Well I don't
Starting point is 00:25:04 agree with it personally but I do think they are harassing a lot of like there's a lot of immigrants and stuff. Yeah no if you want to classify that racial hate yeah okay okay
Starting point is 00:25:15 yeah it's just a bit of banter no one can take a joke anymore man yeah what's Grand Torino
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm doing grand Torino you know this is just what guys do yeah just like grand Torino's
Starting point is 00:25:27 like you don't like sausages yeah where are your rashers you hell a hell
Starting point is 00:25:32 son of a bitch good not no no come on now when are we get into
Starting point is 00:25:40 the dead children Brian yeah you're right you promise dead children. So, Gemma Dardy,
Starting point is 00:25:46 Kant, John Waters, even bigger, Kant. Let's go on to the dead Mary Doyle case, okay? Boyle. Okay, Mary Boyle. So Mary Boyle, she went missing. Her last known whereabouts was with her uncle. Her uncle, Jerry. Yeah, yeah. Jerry, who was a member of Fienafall.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yes. And that might become important. Maybe become relevant a little later on, we'll have to see. So his account is he's walking. along the fields of Dunnigal with his like what was she like four or something like that? Six.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh she was six. Yeah yeah. Now this is like part of like this around kind of like Bali Shannon area but it's like really rural Ireland in the 70s. So we're talking like the sticks here. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Like there's fucking very few houses around. There's not a lot of cars that like you know there's not a lot going on in the area. So for her to just go missing you know it's weird. In like a like a big place where like there's not where she could go like there's a lake there but the lake yeah like if she had like yeah but
Starting point is 00:26:48 you know they they fucking looked everywhere for they sent divers into the lakes they looked around the bogs if she had fallen in somewhere or drowned somewhere and then like that the body would have been recovered in fact in the podcast listened to about the case one man said if there was a frog with a broken leg
Starting point is 00:27:04 they would have found him wow what a silly silly sentence for that man to say but he was working on that for ages Anyway, yeah So it's just a bizarre thing So he's walking along with her in the field Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:18 He and his count is He sees like a kind of like a puddle or like a Bit of like a waterlogged area Yeah So he's like look I'm gonna walk across Come hold a ladder You run along back home Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:27:29 And now one of his things is he said That she could climb the wall herself Yeah And people are like she's way too small Yeah Yeah yeah Because these walls are like kind of high up or whatever Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:38 She was just a six year old girl She was tiny She wouldn't have been able And apparently there was like three walls That she would have had to have climbed by herself So then like isn't it the case where like She goes missing then the uncle's almost like His story's inaccurate
Starting point is 00:27:53 It's constantly changing Every time somebody asks him It's something slightly different First he's like Oh yeah I was the last one with her And then he goes oh wait no I haven't seen her It's like I told her to go back Oh no she went back on her own
Starting point is 00:28:07 Like it just was all just slightly different every time you know and... So it becomes a big case yes this missing girl and the police
Starting point is 00:28:17 are investigating an Irish Madeline McCann some might say that's what they say yeah yeah now the alleged
Starting point is 00:28:24 version of a story is that someone will get into who maybe but someone made a call into the police station and was like
Starting point is 00:28:33 okay maybe maybe turn this whole thing down a little bit yeah because I think the investigating officers were
Starting point is 00:28:41 like um okay we're all pretty sure that it's the uncle right they're like that that was the speculation that was the theory from very early on it's like he's acting fishy his story doesn't match up this girl is not being found anywhere there's just and so they were all like the guardie were all like like the investigating officers that's the uncle we think it's the uncle but then they get phone call from a politician who are like yeah maybe ease off on the uncle and we don't think it's in. Don't be questioning too much.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's got anxiety. Yes. There was no anxiety in the 70s. Like, he's a bit funny in the head. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He stressed out about something,
Starting point is 00:29:24 maybe a murder of some kind. So leave him alone. Yeah, yeah. So that's the thing that Jim O'Darty's documentary proposes is that there was a political interference in the case. Because the Uncle Jerry,
Starting point is 00:29:37 as you said, kind of canvassed for a specific phenofoil Yeah, we'll get on to who. We'll get on to who. But that was the story that he was a big fiend of fall man, worked with them for years. And Dunnigall is such a like boys club
Starting point is 00:29:50 that you can just be like, look, I'm getting a bit of trouble there. Can you just like, come on, they're giving me a fucking bit of hassle here about a dead girl. Can you just fucking clear this up for me? Yeah, again, this is like back in the day when, you know, I think you kind of said to me before,
Starting point is 00:30:02 it's like, it was so easy to get away with corruption and shit. If you were in any way connected, if you had a bit of sway, because here's the thing, man. The Irish, especially in rural Ireland, it's like we've been designed to just keep our mouth shut, ignore everything. That's why the British could rule us so easy and the Catholic Church could rule it so easy. Even now, the guards, like, this culture that we have bred is very much, I mean, it's changing now for the better, but for a long time, it's like, oh, no, sure, sure, it's a bit of funny business, but sure, you know, you better say nothing, you'd be better off if you had nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And that's literally the ethos of it, you know? Yeah, like they mentioned this in the podcast as well. It's almost as if the Irish people are the perfect, the perfect type of people to keep quiet and support, not support, but just like ignore victims. Yes, and by doing so, they facilitate. They do facilitate these kind of things. We're very good at being oppressed.
Starting point is 00:31:02 When a huge, bigger institution comes in and oppresses us, whatever's in our DNA is like, we just take it. We are the gimps of Europe. Literally, yeah. Yeah. At least the Scottish like put a bit of a fight
Starting point is 00:31:14 about it. Yeah, true, yeah. You know, they went a bit of a bit of brave heart and we're just like, oh, come on in. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Don't bother wiping your feet, you stick it up. Have a go. Come on, my daughter's right there, have a little go now. Don't fill up before dinner. Yeah, don't fill up on bread,
Starting point is 00:31:30 you know what I mean? But yeah, so, you know, and that's a thing. So the girl goes missing, okay? Yeah. And then very weirdly, a lot of the local press at the time are putting out things like
Starting point is 00:31:42 well she's gone and she'll never be found yeah this is like four days into the case yeah yeah yeah and they were saying that this is very weird and for local newspapers back then they were all they had to be to get stories to be very very close to the police
Starting point is 00:31:58 yes absolutely and basically just be their mouthpiece yeah yeah because like yeah I mean there was no fucking social media or anything like that like if you wanted details on a case you had to actually just rely on the police to tell you and so as you say yeah they just sort of became
Starting point is 00:32:13 the sound board or the mouthpiece for whatever the guards or politicians wanted and also there is a very well documented link between phenofoil I mean all political parties but phenofal especially and the guardee you know what I mean? Yes and apparently Duny Gaul
Starting point is 00:32:30 in particular has very strong phenofal roots yeah and there's like multiple documentaries multiple articles about something called the Duny Gaul Mafia Yes. No, I never actually heard that term before. Yeah, apparently it's just a lot of very powerful families, rich people, and just well-connected politicians all just kind of like live around that Donegal area. Right, okay. And these are like generational politicians.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Okay. Like lads who like, they don't know anything else. They're like, me great-granddaddy, he was a politician. Yeah. So I just become this. So it's kind of like the closest thing that we have to like dynasty. here. It really is the closest thing we have to royalty. Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Even more inbred. And then there's actually a bit of a crossover or a connection between this sort of these Dunnigall, you know, politicians and like, you know, business leaders. There's a little bit of a connection
Starting point is 00:33:26 or a loose connection to actual British royal family and aristocracy. Yeah, well, Lord Mountbatten was... Yeah. You know, he lived around Sligo, Mollock Moore and Sligo. My mate. You know, Shane, my mate. You know, Shane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:39 He blew him up, didn't he? Huh? He blew him up. He did, yeah. No, he blew him. Oh, you got that? No, Shane, yeah, Shane blew him. He blew him so hard.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, the kids died as well. But, no, like, so they, his family have a gaff up and Mullock Moore. So, and we used to go there, like, every summer and, like, party and hang out. But, like, there's, you know, very close to the ruins of the castle where Mountbatten was known to holiday and frequent. and, you know, very, then, like, right beside the harbour, like, where he got blown up and all, so... Yeah. Well, the thing is, all these, like, phenofal T-Ds,
Starting point is 00:34:16 they kind of consider themselves, like, we're, like, jukes and earls, you know? We are the self-appointed, you know, we control the rabble, the rabble, if they had free will, they wouldn't know what to do with it. Yeah. They need sophisticated dunny gall men to rule with an iron fist.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So they would like hanging out with, like, the, the royal and the rich and the... And, you know, I think they got to learn pretty easily. How do you get in with people who are so much better than you in, you know, their social standing and whatever else? Like, how do you actually get in with them? Well, you facilitate their needs and you kind of find out what their specific tastes are and you accommodate them, whatever that might be. Look, you go to dinner party, James. You bring a bottle of wine.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I do. Buckfast, usually. Yeah. And I drink it in the toilet by myself. And then I come out, the Cadman Unleashed. Woo, woo, woo. I've got a DVD of Animal House, lads.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Let's get it going. Well, that's basically what these people do, where they bring, like, a 10-year-old boy. Yeah. And then they fuck him in the bathroom. Literally. That is literally what happens. Yeah, but they, like, it's like that.
Starting point is 00:35:33 See, here's the thing. A lot of people are like, oh man back then it was like these these a few crazy fucked up pedos were running this crazy ring it was just normal back then yeah it was just being polite
Starting point is 00:35:46 if you're in that running those circles just like oh you didn't bring a child to fuck what's up with him what's with this guy movie cunt he's coming up to the house with one arm as long as the other you ever hear that saying
Starting point is 00:35:58 no that means like when you come to the house with one arm as long as the other means you didn't bring anything Okay, that's a fun, yeah With a dark origin But it was just a normal thing That like all these guys did
Starting point is 00:36:11 And they're all just like Hey fucking everyone else does it Yeah I'm not gonna say Hey am I gonna turn down A sweet little bit of A 11 year old Poon tank Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:36:21 I like I mean look at the Catholic church And like all these institutions Like it's just rampant Like we have been criticised on this podcast Like who's talking about Pito's like Well it's not our fault That they're literally fucking everywhere every single institution
Starting point is 00:36:36 and you know that's the thing the thing about it is when there is an institution okay it's sort of it has to put across this image of being omnipotent and infallible that it can't be called into question
Starting point is 00:36:50 or criticised it's kind of the good of the institution above all else but the thing is these institutions are made up of people who are fallible and make mistakes and fuck up so I think abusers
Starting point is 00:37:03 and they're horny. Yes, yes. But abusers tend to flock to these institutions because they know institutions like that are very good at covering shit up and keeping it on the down low so it's not to embarrass anyone. So that's why you see it in the Catholic Church,
Starting point is 00:37:20 you see it in the Army, you see it in the police, you see it in Hollywood, it's everywhere, man. On the Brian and James podcast? Well, not yet. As soon as we get a few more patrons will be in the money, you know? I've got big plans for something. of our
Starting point is 00:37:34 Patriots. But anyway, yeah, so look, that's, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Back to Mary Boyle.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, yeah. So, let's, let's add some more layers of intrigue onto this cake.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Let's do it. All right. A big, sexy misery cake. So, the kids gone missing, all right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And they're all just kind of like, ah, sure, she's gone. Sure, you'd be a big fool looking for her now, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:37:58 You look like a right EJ. That's your shit. I'm going about a week and a half. Jeez, would you not get over it now at all. Sure, fuck it,
Starting point is 00:38:04 and we're in the county final next week. It's not all bad now, so it's not all doom and gloom. Sure, you have to take the better with the sweet. Isn't that what they say? Now, here's the thing. A lot of the family members, okay? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Say they know who done it. Yes, yes, they do. They say they know who done it and they see him around. Yes, all the time. Now, here's the thing. Mary Boyle had a twin sister. Called Anne.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yes. Now, Anne has some theories about the case, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anne suspects, because Mary was more the talkative one. Yeah, she was like very brash and brazen and like, feisty, I think, is the word Anne used to describe her. Now, the sister believes that something happened to Mary or she saw something or she knew something. Yeah. And because she was so brash.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And feisty and talkative. Yeah, yeah. They had to get rid of her. Because she would have said something. Yes. She would have lifted the lid. That's what she believes, okay? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:59 A lot of other family members agree. yeah strange thing is the mother is very against all this yeah yeah now she wasn't always against it but very quickly she did suddenly go like yeah you sure there's better things to be doing you know why you doing fucking wasting the police time yeah because okay because like Anne
Starting point is 00:39:18 the sister Anne and her like aunt cousin I've kind of gone on this big campaign now for decades they've been like trying to get the truth and justice and blah blah It's actually crazy how dedicated there. I think if I had a sister, she would miss and I'd be like, ah, you know, yeah, you know, that's why pencils, you know, have erasers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Swings around about. But, like, these ones are just like, we're going, okay, we're going to go to the doll. Yeah. We're going to go to Parliament and the UK. Yeah. We're going to Washington. We're going to Europe Union. And, yeah, like, they go in front of all these, like, commission boards.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And, like, they've been all over the place. And, like, they haven't stopped. They've been relentless in their pursuits. and the mother has literally went on record and said like what are they doing going out there with all let's carry on it's absolutely ridiculous that's literally what she says
Starting point is 00:40:08 she's just like they're making fools to themselves they need to let it go blah blah blah and yeah so I think the theory is the mother knows and is covering up for her brother the uncle that's what the theory is yeah now another little thing is the husband
Starting point is 00:40:24 the father of Mary Boyle died mysteriously. Yes. Now, the way to talk about it, I'm going to assume it's suicide. Suicide, probably, yeah, yeah. Because, yeah, he never recall.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He was, like, emotionally devastated by it. And more than likely... Wasn't it a taste where like he accidentally went out into the ocean where a brick around his foot? Yeah, it was something like he just, he went... They say he died mysteriously on a fishing trip. This is somebody who grew up, like, in the heart. Like, if you're a fisherman, you know, you know...
Starting point is 00:40:58 also wasn't it in the lake as well yeah I think it was a very it was pretty much a suicide but like everybody knows it was the uncle right so the father has to just live with the fact that
Starting point is 00:41:10 his wife's brother probably molested and murdered their daughter oh you'd be raging wouldn't you? Oh you would be it's like you know what
Starting point is 00:41:18 and then you get him for secret Santa you're like well oh Jesus good thing there's a 10 year old limit because I'd be fucking I'm regifting something
Starting point is 00:41:27 oh yeah Yeah, yeah He's like Oh fuck shake He got me And only fools And horses box set again Should I have this one
Starting point is 00:41:35 Have you got a problem with me Or something? Yeah So yeah But he was obviously Devastated by it And you know You would be
Starting point is 00:41:43 But you'd be happy to know The uncle He's dead now But he's dead now But he did a grand life He lived to her Right all age Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:50 Didn't have any mean Detectives Asked him Too many hard questions Yeah Apparently they They questioned him A few times
Starting point is 00:41:55 Even they went Against their Superiors or like come on just tell us did you do it yeah and like he wouldn't even annoy you that thing they'd be like did you do it and just be like you know quiet just didn't say anything yeah but they do
Starting point is 00:42:07 say that around the time of the disappearance like a few weeks later when he was pressed on it he would like break down crying he'd never admit it but he would he'd be crying uncontrollably and all and then they'd be like do you think she's missing or do you think she was murdered and he was like I think
Starting point is 00:42:23 she was murdered but he never said it was him now there's a few week kind of like theories about this that the authorities have pushed so one of them remember this in documentary was like one random guy and they arrested him
Starting point is 00:42:37 and they made sure like his face got in the newspaper yes yeah now he was already in jail for like another like indecent assault wasn't he like showing his willies or something like that he flashed someone
Starting point is 00:42:48 like during a mental breakdown or something yeah he was a Willie flasher he wasn't really a child murderer you have to work your way up to that and then they all also tried to say that it was actually like a Scottish... Yeah, Robert Black.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Robert Black, he's like the Larry Bird of murderers. Okay, very prolific, great... Okay, very... Just great. Yeah. You couldn't fault him. And Bull Burnham's gonna play him in a movie. No, so he, like, murdered loads people,
Starting point is 00:43:15 but, like, they were like... It's so funny, they were like, well, you know, he was in Scotland, and that's kind of close by, don't he go? Yeah. Not at all. And then they were like, well, he did have a job transport he was a van driver and he would go to Ireland
Starting point is 00:43:29 but he did research and he only got to Ireland like three years after Mary Boyle disappeared like the police involved were like 100 million percent this guy was nowhere near the place but that theory got pushed legitimately and still does by who is it Barry Crimmins
Starting point is 00:43:48 something I think this is his name yeah or am I thinking of that no is that the comedian Barry Crimmins was it Paul Marsh But I don't know Some like RTE journalists An author They made an RT documentary
Starting point is 00:44:00 Where they pushed that theory That Robert Black is the one who did it That documentary was made with With the police Yeah The police were involved They were consultants Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:11 It was like a special thanks To Angarde of Shia Khan Can you imagine how lucky If this is true It's not But if like It was true Robert Black was like Am I just go in a holiday's Dunigall
Starting point is 00:44:20 And then you just go As immediately he finds A little girl wander around Like This is fucking this is my lucky day Oh my God I just hit jackpot
Starting point is 00:44:28 Las Vegas Yeah Yeah yeah Yeah yeah I think that's funny Yeah Brian A missing child A child dies
Starting point is 00:44:38 And you're getting Little goofs out of it Doing one of your little skits I'm just saying that Because I couldn't think of anything It's a dad on to it So I just Shame you
Starting point is 00:44:47 It always works But then if I Oh he probably Fucked it Yeah I'm back can't pack I'm like
Starting point is 00:44:58 Tony Soprano I don't adhere to any morality or ethics that I expect other people do adhere to you know
Starting point is 00:45:05 but anyway yeah so the rubber black theory is just bullshit like and the fact that they pushed it so hard
Starting point is 00:45:10 to me points of a cover up and conspiracy Brian yeah well also the sister
Starting point is 00:45:19 said the police visited her house that's right yeah and we're kind of like shame is something were to happen. Yeah, she said she felt intimidated and that they were like,
Starting point is 00:45:29 we know you keep thinking that it's the uncle, but you're wrong. It's this guy, so you need to stop pushing that theory. And she said she felt intimidated. And you know what? She also said, one of the, she was living in awfully at the time. One of the guards were from Dunigall and the other from Monaghan. Represent Monaghan. Brut, brough, brough.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, good to know we're finally getting a seat at the big table, you know. About time, you know. Or stepping up to the plate Talking of the big table You know the one very big Who comes from Duny Gall that area Enda Kenny
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yes, that's right Yeah Now this is crazy And like I was thinking of This is a joke But I think it's honestly true Where I was like
Starting point is 00:46:10 At first I was like It's funny Imagine if like Enda Kenny was afraid Of those lads of Dudigal Yeah He definitely is
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah He definitely is Well because if they're Like That's the thing With like You know Sort of dynasties
Starting point is 00:46:22 And you can trade you could trace it back. If it's long-standing power and money and ability to influence them corrupt, you would be terrified of that because they obviously have a lot of influence. There's a whole infrastructure in place
Starting point is 00:46:37 that could at any moment decide to fuck you over, get rid of you, if they so decide. These are the king makers who sit, they drink their brandy and they sit in front of the fire and go, will we make him ahead of our party?
Starting point is 00:46:53 Will he be our little Will he be our little puppet? Yeah, yeah And then they ring a bell And you come in And roller skates and hot pants Dance for us, boy Okay
Starting point is 00:47:05 I'm an intern Is this how I get the safe pass? So they did One of the members Who is she? Is she a cousin or something like that? She's a musician She's a musician
Starting point is 00:47:22 Margo O'Donnell I think is her name So she's like a country western musician But she's like a cousin of Mary Ann Ballow And the sister Anne So she knew Ender From the good old days
Starting point is 00:47:35 Before he was T-Shaw Yeah Yeah yeah She called up Ender Probably gave him a handy That's just speculation But I'm gonna No I'm going
Starting point is 00:47:41 I want that on wax Yeah Give him a little HJ under the table You know what talking about Everything else you've said is bullshit Okay But that is true That's facts baby
Starting point is 00:47:50 Jimo Adarley wouldn't even report that to afraid cowardly god but yeah so she knew end up back in the day and she was like you need to help me and my cousin were trying to find out what happened to mary uh mary boyle yeah but he was just like no i can't do they'll hurt me yeah yeah no he did the kind of like we will look into that yeah i'll pass it on to the guardee that anytime they went to any sort of like a political like establishment or whatever it was always like we'll pass it the authorities. But as we well now, Brian, the authorities
Starting point is 00:48:26 cannot be trusted. It is kind of funny where it's like, I have information about a political cover-up and the guards might be all connected and involved. We'll pass it on to the guards straight away. I'll tell you, I'll give them your dress as well.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And here's a list of my schedule where I'll be throughout the day. Do you hide the key under the flower pot? Good to know. okay so we've been making some um you know around about kind of like references to the certain politician yes who might be involved now there's a lot of very corrupt politicians done he go like i was looking up another thing a different documentary completely about one um i think he was like a t d and also like um i think he ran a few pubs and stuff like that okay yeah and he owned a few houses
Starting point is 00:49:18 and stuff like that, and he threw a French man out the window. Really? Yeah. Well, he wanted to see if frogs could fly, eh? Wait, oh. No, apparently... What? So he threw a Frenchman? He got an altercation with a French man
Starting point is 00:49:31 because I think, like, he wasn't doing... He didn't agree to a business thing. Okay. So he threw him out the window, and he got away with it. Kill him? No, no, he injured him. And the guy was like, he did it. And there was witnesses, and the guy,
Starting point is 00:49:44 he's an interview with him, and he's like, yes, we had a, maybe a mild verbal. altercation. They say you true him out of window. I do not recall that incident. And he's kind of like winking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fucking great, isn't it? Oh, I fucking stuck a baguette
Starting point is 00:50:01 ratch up his shy pipe. But, um... That's mental. When did that happen? 80s as well. Nice. The 80s was fucking... I'm telling you, baby. People talk about, man, New York in the 80s was great. Have you tried Donnie Gaul? Donnie Gall in the 80s, that
Starting point is 00:50:16 the Coke was the best shit. you could get. People were blasting death leopard all day banging eight-year-olds and throwing frogs out the window. It was party time, baby. We loved it. So, the politician who rang up
Starting point is 00:50:32 the police station. Yeah. I think his name is like Sean McEniff. Sean McEniff, I think. Let's call McSniff. McSniff. Oh, okay. For legal reasons. You know you've said his name. Oh no, I have a speech impediment. I didn't say
Starting point is 00:50:48 his name. But it is funny because the estate, because he's dead now, but the estate tried to sue Jemmo Daugherty. Really? Yeah, because she was saying like, it's him. Yeah. And then they're, you know, because they're all fucking scumbags. They are. Don't hurt my daddy's legacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, he, they say that
Starting point is 00:51:04 he was the one who called the police station and was like, he's a good fiend of a fall man, leave him alone. Now, he is an interesting cat, all right? Okay. Uh, I got to credit you, too. Or you really went deep on this son. I respect it. Yeah, yeah. Now, he made a lot of money. He's a
Starting point is 00:51:19 phenofal politician, a hotelier, and he made his money off slot machines. The hills, we'll have our own Las Vegas in the hills of Dunnigo. Yeah, he He's gambling up in Dunigall. Yeah, he set up loads of slot machines, and that's
Starting point is 00:51:36 how he made his fortune, you know? Yeah, like Bundorn, like they had all those... Bundorn, Newlyne Casino. Yeah. He's basically like that. He's basically, yeah, he's ace Rothstein, yeah, yeah. He's De Niro, yeah, yeah. And I don't know, but, like, yeah, like, Bontor and all those seaside areas,
Starting point is 00:51:53 they all have loads of arcades, slot machines. So, like, yeah, gambling got very big up around there. There was a lot of money to be made. Yeah, yeah, and he was in the center of all that, okay? Nice. And to make it even more hilariously Irish, okay? Yes. His brother is, like, one of the biggest guy.
Starting point is 00:52:11 He's one the biggest guy he's in the guy. Oh, like, he was a very well-known footballer. Yeah, I think he was, like, a well-known footballer, than coach and then like senior management like so like you merge those two together okay man you could literally you could fuck a child on the late late show
Starting point is 00:52:27 and then deny it and people be like ah yeah I probably misremembered that I mean for our international listeners who might not understand how big the GAA is if you put together GAA and casino we're talking I mean they are the Rothschilds basically they control it all
Starting point is 00:52:43 NFL fucking piece of piss yeah it's dog shit this is the Yeah, it's true So this is how big he is And then there's like Now again, I'm going to I'm not saying this This is what Gemma says
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yes To quote Gemma O'Dard So I'm quoting Gemma now For the next 20 minutes So there's a lot of allegations About him You know corruption You know
Starting point is 00:53:08 He adjourned for elections He bused people in from the north Yeah To get them to vote like Yeah yeah You know faking elections Sure You're rigging the election?
Starting point is 00:53:18 A lot of dead people voting. Not really, but that's like that kind of vibe. Yeah, that kind of thing. There's also, again, what Jemis says, there was a girl who says that, you know, he kind of uses hotels as like a nice place to, you know, run sex rings. Yeah, basically have like orgies for like, you know, prominent politicians, businessmen,
Starting point is 00:53:41 both domestic and international. So they'd be Irish, but there'd be like ones from like, England, maybe even America so he really did host and facilitate these very you know, kind of sex parties, essentially drug and sex orgies
Starting point is 00:53:58 and not all the people involved were of age. Allegedly. Allegedly. According to Jama. This is what Jemma Stained. He was involved in some grooming. You call it grooming. He might call just being a good businessman. Yeah. Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else? He also, he had a few like,
Starting point is 00:54:14 oh, this is very funny now. He was really big into, he wanted to build a monument to Lord Mountbatten. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was one of his big things. He's like, this, I, we need to do,
Starting point is 00:54:25 we need to take the, you know the fund for a hospital? Fuck that hospital. Yeah. We need a big, a monument of Mountbatten bigger than the pyramids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:36 With two little boys standing right beside him with a worried lock on their face. Yeah, I forgot about this. You know the FBI have files on Mountbatten. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And in the files, this is literally a quote in the FBI files that he was a person of very low moral standing, who may very well have been a paedophile with a proclivity for young boys. That's literally in fucking declassified FBI documents. Lord Mountbatten
Starting point is 00:55:04 was a nonce. Man, that's so funny to think of like J. Edgar Hoover. Is I looking over these and me like, oh, Mountbatten. Nice. That's a real shit puppy right there. Duny goal. Hmm. Eleanor, pack my bags. So, yeah, well, we're, well, we're seeing that.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So he wanted to, so that's kind of sussed there. He wanted to erect a statue to Mountbat. He also was very anti-traveller. Yeah, very anti-traveller. Like, literally, he said, did you put in isolation? Yeah, they're dogs that need to be put on. He was like, you know, the Simpsons movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Can we do that, but we're travelers. And yellow people, if there's any of them. Oh, again, that's what he said. not me. We're directly quoting him. Yes. But he was. He was very, you know, he hated travellers.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Actually, that's another thing to try to, another suspect for the Mary Boyle case. Like, it was probably the gypsies, you know? They did say that actually, yeah. She was probably, like, you know, picked up by travellers driving along the country road. They probably used their black magic. Yeah, probably turned her into a bucket.
Starting point is 00:56:10 That's what they do, don't they? Yeah, the bloody tinkers. Yeah, I know what John Conner is all about. yeah so yeah it's it's mental man it's now it is 20 21 correct we do not know anything they haven't even found her shoe they haven't found bit of her hair they found nothing nothing the uncle's dead the uncle has died peacefully asleep with big smile in his face and uh what about the mother is she dead the mother i i gotta assume she's dead right well the podcast i listened to it was from 2019 yeah said that the mother was alive and apparently he's getting a lot of hate mail. Okay. I think the sister's getting hate mail as well.
Starting point is 00:56:52 A lot of like, you know, like, you fucking cunt. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more creative than that, but... I would hope so. I'm not very good at harassing women, am I? Nice save, Tuler. Yes. Ooh, do you all think I'm woke. But, um, yeah, so
Starting point is 00:57:09 there's still been no... They're no closer to finding the truth or justice and let's be honest, probably never Will they won't They won't No no Even like The Paul Tid
Starting point is 00:57:19 The Sean McSniff He died Yeah Very funny He was like in his hospital He was in the hospital He got like some kind of like I think he was on the holiday
Starting point is 00:57:28 In like Florida or something like that Yeah And he just fell down Yeah Turned out he had some off disease And he was like dying Oh But the whole time
Starting point is 00:57:35 Jim O'Darty was like He's faking it Oh nice Lies Crocodile cancer That's what you got Yeah And then when he's dead
Starting point is 00:57:45 It's like Take him up I want to see the bones Oh it's fake Like she digs them up Like oh Laie slapping around Oh look with this good actor
Starting point is 00:57:53 Look with all the makeup You must have taught George Floyd Did you You should be working on a bus Yeah Yeah so Yeah Jam-a man
Starting point is 00:58:03 She doesn't do herself any favours I kind of respected her for that I do like the idea of harassing an old man Who's dying Yeah Who doesn't It's pretty funny
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's pretty funny Yeah Even if he wasn't a P-Dor anything. He was just like an old rich cunts. Like, yeah, you know. Yeah. You deserve it. Yeah. He was very powerful. And it's weird now, because, like, I'm so fucking blind all this shit.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I mean, I grew up in Manon. That's very close to Donnie Gall. And I am just so totally ignorant and oblivious to all this shit. You know why? Because we don't really have the media to report. That's right. You're right. To report it that much. You know, it's fine. The only person who reportant is, like, a mentally ill woman. Yeah. Yeah. Or T.
Starting point is 00:58:42 aren't doing it. Yeah, it's true. You think fucking um, um, well, News talk? They're not doing it. Yeah, fucking Miriam O'Callaghan. Nah. Oh, she's in the pocket. Big business, isn't she?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Of course she is. Yeah, she's on Epstein's Island as well. Yeah, her and Podd and Raj. are all on the island. Yeah, yeah. Zigg and Zag from the planet Zog. Yeah, read into that, my friends. Zionist occupied government much.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Again, I'm quoting Jem O'Dardy and her very well-known Zigginsag anti-Semitic theory, which I don't. don't subscribe to at all, of course. So that's everything I have
Starting point is 00:59:20 about Mary Boyle. Okay. I'm closing the book on the case right now. Not really. I'm going to leave it open. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Very interesting stuff. Very dark, but you know what? Like, it just, um, I think a lot of Irish people, they don't like to think that this sort of
Starting point is 00:59:35 elite political corruption and Pito rings goes on, but it most certainly does. Even like, I bet even like the local butcher is probably raping a few kids, you know? I would hope so.
Starting point is 00:59:46 the fucking prices he's charging I'm just saying anyone with like even what they think is power you know they're like you know fucking might as well have a go yeah
Starting point is 00:59:56 absolute power corrupts absolutely my friend I thought it might be funny I'm just thinking this now to do a show about like an incompetent like he's like
Starting point is 01:00:05 a man like a regional manager of like a Tesco and he's like let's start our own pedo ring it's like him and the guy who works
Starting point is 01:00:14 for CECS yeah Yeah, yeah. Come on, wear it. Give me the dark stuff. Yeah, yeah. But they can't afford the kids, so they get like, they get like me, basically, like a 26-year-old.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Who still thinks he's a twink. Shave your pubs. We want you to look. 16. Yeah. Well, I've been 16 for a long time, boys. They're all like, ah, you just make us depressed.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Get out here. I can't get hard with you around. You've made this pedo ring a depressing place to be. Yeah. It's fucked up. man, but hey. It's fucked and like, the thing is like, and also Ireland's, though, litigious as well, you know. Yeah, the libelous laws.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Like, there are a lot of, like, um, there's been many cases of, like, well-known people in Irish media have been accused on Twitter, but then people have the receipts of it. They got, like, fucking screenshots and can prove that they were in a certain place at a certain time. So there's a lot of, you know, a lot of the dots connect up and there's a lot of credibility to these accusations. but because the libel laws are so fucking strong and defamation nothing ever gets done about it. People say that I think What do you think, Brian? Come on, let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 We know what we should do, okay? Let's test these libel laws, okay? This is something we can work on. Let's create the most libelest podcast ever, all right? All right. And then send it to the fucking, who could send it to send it to the judge? Yeah. Yeah, and then test it, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And it kind of like we'd be doing it for all the victims. That's right. We're standing up for them. We're standing up for all those poor women that have been abused and
Starting point is 01:01:49 raped and all that and if we stand up for my sucker cocks they might let me smash give me your hair you whore
Starting point is 01:01:58 yes yes okay I like that but that's just a joke no of course yeah that's just a character Brian plays
Starting point is 01:02:06 the mentally ill let me fuck you what would be good now who could we accuse Owen McDermott No, no one would ever believe that.
Starting point is 01:02:19 See what Cadden did there. Very clever and satirical. That's a bit too much actually. It's a little on the nose, isn't it? This is why we have libel laws. Stop people like you. Making your little jokes. How long have we gone for?
Starting point is 01:02:31 We've gone for an hour. I think you should wrap this up. Yeah, let's wrap it up. But yeah, this is all joke inside is a truly terrible case. Horrible and depressing for all involved. And the family. have got no closure and they just
Starting point is 01:02:49 they've been cheated of any kind of justice. You got any weird uncles, Brian? Any uncles you think would pull an old Mary Boyle if they got a chance? Mine aren't cool enough and I was testing them as well when I was little I was walking around like
Starting point is 01:03:04 Oh, I've had so much to drink I won't remember a thing. Oh, I've had so much apple juice. Yeah, yeah. No, nothing like that. There's not that much in Carlo Dinoa. I would love for something really big to happen in Carlo
Starting point is 01:03:18 but even like in Carlisle You know what actually Now that I think about it If anyone in Carlo is going to be involved It's your dad Your dad's a big pito There you wanted libelous There's his libelous
Starting point is 01:03:32 That's great yeah I'm accusing your dad of being a nuns You're lucky as know how podcasts work Man he still uses Teletext I think I'm good Oh no I'm joking No disrespect Jimmy
Starting point is 01:03:44 You know we fuck with you both We're all good, we all good. Yeah, sorry, you can cut that bit on. Yes, yeah. No, I'm not, I'm going to leave in because actually it's true, but we're going to... Oh, oh, let's slip. Oh, the mask slips for once.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Oh, I have to get the victims. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my job. That's right. You don't get the fun, you just get the clean-up. I just drive around the van, like... Well, I fuck up, I bring back an old lady. Is she good enough, is she? Prince Andrew's like, right, that's it.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I'm leaving. This kid doesn't know what he's doing. No, Andrew, please. stay we'll have a good old time yeah okay we're going to end it there okay yeah yeah all right thanks for listening hey look you guys you've been great you've been amazing spread the word
Starting point is 01:04:25 they're all nonsense yeah spread the word this is a good episode I did a lot of research you actually did now because you did a lot of research come on and you're very mentally ill I'm mentally ill it's very bad for you to be doing this research look I'm mentally ill and I've got money
Starting point is 01:04:39 okay yes I will pay you just let me touch your hair I don't know.

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