Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 121 : Mary Boyle and the Donegal Mafia
Episode Date: June 28, 2021Who shot ya?...
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                                        good evening
                                         
                                        good
                                         
                                        what
                                         
                                        oh bel end
                                         
                                        good evening
                                         
                                        that's what you get
                                         
                                        legit before we hit
                                         
                                        record it's like
                                         
    
                                        try to be a little bit
                                         
                                        more serious
                                         
                                        this one
                                         
                                        let's be professional
                                         
                                        James
                                         
                                        you stumbled at the
                                         
                                        first hurdle
                                         
                                        oh my god
                                         
    
                                        that was pathetic
                                         
                                        let's not be silly
                                         
                                        here
                                         
                                        I told with you
                                         
                                        Walter Cronkite
                                         
                                        there was like
                                         
                                        I'm addressing
                                         
                                        the nation here
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        you're Walter Cronkite
                                         
                                        about two days
                                         
                                        before the end
                                         
                                        resident
                                         
                                        Wennettett
                                         
                                        Wendanty is
                                         
                                        wed.
                                         
    
                                        That was more wassy than Kronkite, wasn't it?
                                         
                                        Okay, no, serious.
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                        We're talking about a dead child here.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        So take that smile off your face.
                                         
                                        I can't.
                                         
                                        Now when there's dead children involved, this is painted all year out.
                                         
    
                                        So anyway, look, we were silly there, right?
                                         
                                        But we're being serious.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So we're going to talk about the Ireland's longest disappeared child.
                                         
                                        child.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        A child went missing
                                         
    
                                        in the 70s.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        The cops couldn't figure it out.
                                         
                                        The journalists couldn't figure it out.
                                         
                                        The police.
                                         
                                        They're cops.
                                         
                                        They are.
                                         
                                        The Gardy either.
                                         
    
                                        The media.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No one could figure it out, but Brian and James.
                                         
                                        Well, really, I'd love to take credit for this, but this is all you, Brian.
                                         
                                        This is B-Dog, just rocking the Woodward and Bernstein vibes.
                                         
                                        I went deep in this episode, which means I went on the Reddit.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And suffered another psychotic break.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was like, how can I fix this?
                                         
                                        4chan, that's why I need.
                                         
                                        What actually, may I ask, what got you on?
                                         
                                        So we're talking about the disappearance of Mary Boyle.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        So she's a girl that disappeared.
                                         
                                        In the 70s.
                                         
    
                                        In the 70s and Donegal.
                                         
                                        Why, why now, Brian?
                                         
                                        Why not?
                                         
                                        What, what...
                                         
                                        This has been something that'll be on my radar for a long time.
                                         
                                        Okay, see, I'd never heard of it.
                                         
                                        Well, I knew about it from the Gemmo Doherty connection.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        So this was one of Gemmo Daugherty's big cases.
                                         
                                        Now, the problem is...
                                         
                                        GOD, you never stared us run before.
                                         
                                        This is the problem.
                                         
                                        She's kind of like shit in her own house here, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So now she's done a lot of legitimate stories.
                                         
                                        From back in the day.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, but when you bring it up, they're like,
                                         
                                        oh, you like Gemmaudderty, don't you, Brian?
                                         
                                        Well, it's like that old analogy, Patrice O'Neill used to say.
                                         
                                        It's like, now I could come up and tell you
                                         
                                        that 2 plus 2 equals 4.
                                         
                                        and then you go
                                         
                                        oh yeah you're right
                                         
                                        two plus two does equal four
                                         
    
                                        and then later on you could find out that I shove
                                         
                                        marbles up my ass
                                         
                                        now just because I shove marbles up my ass
                                         
                                        doesn't mean doesn't stop
                                         
                                        two plus two equaling four
                                         
                                        yeah you know what I mean so yes
                                         
                                        what was his point
                                         
                                        was he talking about
                                         
    
                                        he was talking about Mary Boyle
                                         
                                        I think he was talking about Alex Jones
                                         
                                        actually but um but just people
                                         
                                        of that ilk people that have kind of
                                         
                                        that's the thing they kind of
                                         
                                        start off looking into legitimate
                                         
                                        you know conspiracy and things that don't add up and there's corruption and cover up
                                         
                                        but then they go way too far and then before you know it she's saying that you know the
                                         
    
                                        troubles were all fake and you know there's nazis on the moon leo isn't really indian yeah yeah
                                         
                                        he is trust me i've done my research uh but yeah yeah so that's um so um and you did make a good
                                         
                                        point there like these people they start off doing legitimate research yeah and jem odori is a great example
                                         
                                        of this. You find out a few
                                         
                                        untruths and you find out
                                         
                                        the lack of justice. Yeah.
                                         
                                        And just the lack of caring
                                         
                                        for some victims. Yes.
                                         
    
                                        And the, some people
                                         
                                        go like, huh, that's crazy
                                         
                                        and then just go home, be like, honey, I'm
                                         
                                        home, had a crazy day at journalism.
                                         
                                        At journalism camp.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah. But other
                                         
                                        people go, have a psychotic break.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they just go mental. And like,
                                         
    
                                        rightly so. Because that's the thing.
                                         
                                        It will break your brain.
                                         
                                        Like, if you keep going further and further into the fucking the rabbit hole and uncovering
                                         
                                        more and more shit, I kind of, I think the average person has a complete inability to
                                         
                                        comprehend just how truly sick and evil some of the cunts in the world really are.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And that's good.
                                         
                                        That's a good thing.
                                         
    
                                        If you can be like, you know, that's sort of blissfully ignorant or naive, I do envy that.
                                         
                                        It's great for us.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        We can take advantage of these sheep.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's what I meant.
                                         
                                        No, I just meant that's good.
                                         
                                        you're a happy person and good on you
                                         
                                        but then there are freaks like me
                                         
    
                                        and you like just can't stop
                                         
                                        researching this shit
                                         
                                        oh yeah James yeah the detective
                                         
                                        dissolving crimes he's a freak is that how
                                         
                                        you see yourself
                                         
                                        your fucking your pro
                                         
                                        pyro are you
                                         
                                        is that why you're trying to Colombo goddamma
                                         
    
                                        just one more thing
                                         
                                        Gemma why did the Mary Boyle go
                                         
                                        I'm sorry we were not meant to be
                                         
                                        silly in this one
                                         
                                        yeah we're not being silly
                                         
                                        okay so yeah but it can just it can really
                                         
                                        fucking warp your mind if you
                                         
                                        so like keep looking into this shit
                                         
    
                                        gemo doherty just real quick I've done research on
                                         
                                        so the two big people in Ireland that would be
                                         
                                        considered like crazy quotation marks
                                         
                                        whack ado yeah okay
                                         
                                        would be Gemo Doherty and John Waters
                                         
                                        yes okay so we'll get to Gemo
                                         
                                        Doherty first alright so she was just a regular
                                         
                                        journalist yeah doing good stories
                                         
    
                                        yeah she was like oh um you know
                                         
                                        some politicians get stopped by the guards
                                         
                                        and they don't get penalty points
                                         
                                        because they're politicians.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, stuff like that.
                                         
                                        Oh, what?
                                         
                                        I bet you think they're all lizards
                                         
    
                                        to you, mental bitch.
                                         
                                        People, no, yeah, but...
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No, like she was a, yeah, she was like
                                         
                                        a well-respected journalist, you know?
                                         
                                        Credible, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And then she started looking to this...
                                         
                                        Well, she looked in a lot of stories
                                         
    
                                        that, like, did not have happy endings, all right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And that probably wasn't good for her.
                                         
                                        You know, she looked up to Mary Boyle thing,
                                         
                                        for example, and we'll get into it.
                                         
                                        There's a lot of dark secrets and a lot of things
                                         
                                        where it's like, okay, everyone says
                                         
                                        this is true and everyone says
                                         
    
                                        they saw this and they know it's true.
                                         
                                        Yeah. But because this guy's
                                         
                                        powerful, we can't do
                                         
                                        anything. Literally, yeah. So I could
                                         
                                        literally say, this guy,
                                         
                                        I could point to him on live TV
                                         
                                        and go, this guy is a murderer
                                         
                                        paedophile. He can be like,
                                         
    
                                        ha ha, I think someone's got their facts
                                         
                                        wrong, my dear. And he can just get away
                                         
                                        with it. That's not really how he's saying.
                                         
                                        What are you on a boy?
                                         
                                        I think that's not.
                                         
                                        But yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He has that vibe, though.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's why he's seen on the inside, okay?
                                         
                                        No, no, because, like, that's the character.
                                         
                                        He goes, oh, Jesus, no, I didn't know.
                                         
                                        But then behind closed doors,
                                         
                                        uh-huh, I think Peter Rabbit has gotten into the garden shed a little too many times
                                         
                                        and may need to be, uh, uh, yes.
                                         
                                        But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so she sees all this and she sees how powerless.
                                         
    
                                        like a journalist can be.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And how powerless the police can be.
                                         
                                        And the families.
                                         
                                        And it's like we have the facts.
                                         
                                        We have a lot of people saying this is the guy.
                                         
                                        He did it.
                                         
                                        We all know he did it.
                                         
    
                                        And like, yeah, literally from the highest levels, you know, police have been told,
                                         
                                        don't look into it.
                                         
                                        Don't say anything.
                                         
                                        Keep your mouth shut.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So Jim O'Darty, this obviously isn't great for someone, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then I think around the same time our husband died.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So you add the grief factor on it as well.
                                         
                                        The big thing was she was doing the story again about the penalty points, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And she got fired from the independent, the Irish independence.
                                         
                                        Right, yeah.
                                         
                                        Because she was harassing members of the police and stuff like that.
                                         
    
                                        By calling them up and going like, can I talk to you?
                                         
                                        And this is this penalty points scandal that was also word out, like the whistleblower.
                                         
                                        And what was his name, Pat or no, but...
                                         
                                        It's not Martin Cattle.
                                         
                                        Morris McCabe.
                                         
                                        Morris McCabe was the whistleblower.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And then they were like,
                                         
    
                                        ah, he's a paedophile.
                                         
                                        He's a paedophile.
                                         
                                        And then afterwards,
                                         
                                        they were like,
                                         
                                        oh, did we,
                                         
                                        we made a mistake.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        they literally said,
                                         
    
                                        oh,
                                         
                                        somebody accidentally
                                         
                                        copied and pasted a segment
                                         
                                        from another report
                                         
                                        into this report,
                                         
                                        and he's not actually a paedophile.
                                         
                                        It's like,
                                         
                                        Hey, you know,
                                         
    
                                        I don't know how all these
                                         
                                        technical gadgets work.
                                         
                                        It'd be funny if, like,
                                         
                                        they just fall on copy and pastes
                                         
                                        Gary Glitters Wikipedia into him.
                                         
                                        He was like,
                                         
                                        I didn't know he wrote songs as well.
                                         
                                        You want him being,
                                         
    
                                        in my gang
                                         
                                        my gang my gang
                                         
                                        you want to be in my gang
                                         
                                        Maurice McCabe's music was used in the Joker
                                         
                                        but yeah
                                         
                                        so all this
                                         
                                        she gets fired
                                         
                                        just grief just like
                                         
    
                                        so much injustice
                                         
                                        so of course
                                         
                                        you would start going a little bit mental
                                         
                                        absolutely
                                         
                                        and then you know
                                         
                                        when you start going mental
                                         
                                        it's like you're rolling
                                         
                                        a hill down the
                                         
    
                                        you're rolling a mountain
                                         
                                        you're rolling a nail
                                         
                                        in this analogy dealer
                                         
                                        you're rolling a nail in the coffin
                                         
                                        down the hill
                                         
                                        at the kettles black in the garden shed
                                         
                                        where you're throwing stones
                                         
                                        through the glass house
                                         
    
                                        yes no I think it's the snowball effect
                                         
                                        starts rolling down the hill
                                         
                                        and picking up more seeing
                                         
                                        gets bigger and bigger
                                         
                                        yeah that's what I meant to say
                                         
                                        I know I know the I got too excited
                                         
                                        about fucking all the mysteries and shit
                                         
                                        I can't focus on words
                                         
    
                                        yeah no I get you
                                         
                                        you do the talking
                                         
                                        well you're the one who's done the research
                                         
                                        oh you're right actually yeah yeah my bad
                                         
                                        so that's kind of like the
                                         
                                        Gemma Daugherty thing. Now at the moment
                                         
                                        she's been sued by a few people.
                                         
                                        Well, here's the thing as well.
                                         
    
                                        What, you know, I think absolutely
                                         
                                        I agree with everything you just said there.
                                         
                                        There is a legitimate, you know,
                                         
                                        you can see where her decline starts
                                         
                                        happening and for reasons that
                                         
                                        many of people empathetic
                                         
                                        could understand. But what
                                         
                                        then she really goes out of her way
                                         
    
                                        to make herself the poster child of
                                         
                                        oh, you know, she really
                                         
                                        kind of, you know, doesn't do herself
                                         
                                        any favors with the way she
                                         
                                        advertises herself
                                         
                                        and then she's going into fucking
                                         
                                        like you know
                                         
                                        halal meat shops and going
                                         
    
                                        where's the rashers
                                         
                                        do you like rashers
                                         
                                        do you know what I mean
                                         
                                        and he's just like what
                                         
                                        what you don't like rashers do you
                                         
                                        my next big story
                                         
                                        this is Ireland
                                         
                                        get out of our country
                                         
    
                                        do you know what I mean
                                         
                                        and then it's like all
                                         
                                        with stuff like you know
                                         
                                        let's say there's a poster
                                         
                                        with a black man on it
                                         
                                        should be pointing out going like
                                         
                                        huh see
                                         
                                        see
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        this is what I was talking about
                                         
                                        well what's wrong with
                                         
                                        kneeling down if you're tired
                                         
                                        he got in the way
                                         
                                        it's not Derek's fault
                                         
                                        yeah you know shit like that
                                         
                                        yeah I think she was saying that like
                                         
    
                                        you know very crisis actors
                                         
                                        George Floyd
                                         
                                        all that yeah George Fly is an actor
                                         
                                        he was on Eeyr
                                         
                                        was he really wow
                                         
                                        well there you go truth
                                         
                                        the truth finally comes out
                                         
                                        yeah yeah yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                        but like all that kind of stuff
                                         
                                        and then like there was a clip recently
                                         
                                        going around with her and John Waters
                                         
                                        where they were like
                                         
                                        Leo Varadkar he's not Irish
                                         
                                        he's not really Irish
                                         
                                        he's Indian he should be working
                                         
                                        on a bus
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, she did actually say that
                                         
                                        Or an Indian restaurant
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's
                                         
                                        He's Indian, not Irish
                                         
                                        She should be working in a Chinese
                                         
                                        Jesus, Gemma
                                         
                                        You're all over the place there
                                         
                                        So she was with John Waters
                                         
    
                                        And we'll
                                         
                                        We'll get into Mary Ball in a second
                                         
                                        But let's just talk with John Waters for a second
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        Now he's an interesting cat as well
                                         
                                        Okay, he's a real hip cat
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        So John Waters
                                         
    
                                        Looks like the fucking caretaker of Hogwarts
                                         
                                        Doesn't he?
                                         
                                        He's a fucking ghouly, ghoulish-looking cunct.
                                         
                                        And he's looked like that for the last 50 years.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He's never been young and cool, okay?
                                         
                                        So, not the director.
                                         
                                        Not the overly gay, camp, flamboyant director.
                                         
    
                                        Overly gay, James.
                                         
                                        No such thing.
                                         
                                        I meant overly, not overly.
                                         
                                        All right, okay, he said, a big quail!
                                         
                                        Sorry, no, but yes, but that's his whole, his whole thing is like, I'm the outrageous camp.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, that was the whole thing.
                                         
                                        He's outrageous, yeah.
                                         
                                        me all right
                                         
    
                                        fucking leave me
                                         
                                        alone
                                         
                                        leave me alone
                                         
                                        I've got depression
                                         
                                        so John Waters
                                         
                                        we call him
                                         
                                        straight John
                                         
                                        Waters
                                         
    
                                        okay
                                         
                                        that's an insult
                                         
                                        where I'm from
                                         
                                        my friend
                                         
                                        so he goes
                                         
                                        career
                                         
                                        he was writing
                                         
                                        for hot press
                                         
    
                                        all right
                                         
                                        it's a red flag
                                         
                                        oh yeah
                                         
                                        anyone who writes
                                         
                                        for hot press
                                         
                                        is scum
                                         
                                        evil
                                         
                                        evil
                                         
    
                                        scum who doesn't
                                         
                                        return my messages
                                         
                                        should be
                                         
                                        working the Chinese
                                         
                                        restaurant
                                         
                                        yeah you hear
                                         
                                        that talent
                                         
                                        you should be on a bus
                                         
    
                                        Talon is Indian
                                         
                                        We should start that
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That's a great rumor to start
                                         
                                        Because it's not in any way bad
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        You're man I hear he's Indian
                                         
                                        You didn't hear it from me
                                         
    
                                        A little bird he talks me
                                         
                                        I actually
                                         
                                        Just sidetrack for a second
                                         
                                        I lived with a guy
                                         
                                        Who's an Indian
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        This is my big coming out party
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        But he looked a lot
                                         
                                        Like another one of my friends
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        And now this Indian guy lived with
                                         
                                        Good looking guy
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
    
                                        You know bigger than me
                                         
                                        Stronger than me
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Probably he's more friends than me
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Probably he's a better podcast
                                         
                                        He's in the new
                                         
                                        Marvel movie
                                         
    
                                        He's ripped
                                         
                                        He's friends with T.J. Miller
                                         
                                        Oh so cool
                                         
                                        But anyway
                                         
                                        So I knew another guy
                                         
                                        And I said to him one time
                                         
                                        Hey you look like an Indian guy
                                         
                                        I know
                                         
    
                                        And he got offended
                                         
                                        Oh really
                                         
                                        Yeah he was like
                                         
                                        What the fuck you mean by that
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Well, that's not okay.
                                         
    
                                        A bit like a trap there, isn't it?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        You should do that.
                                         
                                        You go around and tell them that to everyone.
                                         
                                        You look like an Indian.
                                         
                                        Just screaming at people.
                                         
                                        He's breaking a woman's house.
                                         
                                        Indian!
                                         
    
                                        Ah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, I don't know.
                                         
                                        This friend doesn't sound like a good person, Brian.
                                         
                                        I hope you reported them.
                                         
                                        I reported him, yeah, immediately.
                                         
                                        I knee-capped him, sir, away.
                                         
                                        He's probably, I mean, he probably knows what happened to Mary Boyle.
                                         
                                        I mean, if I were to put two and two in two,
                                         
    
                                        together.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So anyway, as I was saying, working for hot press.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And then the Irish Independent.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And he was a big supporter of, like, Catholic causes.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        So the church and stuff like that.
                                         
                                        He was a big supporter of them?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And a lot of, like, you know, Catholics are mistreated way worse than Jews.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Which, you know, we can get into that.
                                         
                                        It's all true.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Well, look, okay, yes.
                                         
                                        But, you know, come on.
                                         
                                        Do you really have to...
                                         
                                        But no, but he was just, you know,
                                         
                                        Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it was
                                         
                                        He was just a big support of like hey Christians
                                         
                                        We've got to stick together
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
    
                                        Don't let anyone else take you down
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Don't listen to the naysayers
                                         
                                        And the haters
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Yath Queen
                                         
                                        He started to date
                                         
    
                                        Sheney O'Connor
                                         
                                        Oh okay
                                         
                                        Now I thought he just dated her
                                         
                                        He actually has a daughter with her
                                         
                                        Whoa really?
                                         
                                        Called Roshin
                                         
                                        Oh my God
                                         
                                        Apparently Roshin still lives with John Waters
                                         
    
                                        So I couldn't find out much
                                         
                                        But that's
                                         
                                        Jesus
                                         
                                        What her story is
                                         
                                        Oh, man, I mean, I'm sorry, but...
                                         
                                        If you mixed those two to get it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I love Shnade O'Connor, but you mixed those two.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Why? Tell me why.
                                         
                                        She ripped up the Pope, didn't she?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's true. You got me there?
                                         
                                        Wish I had the balls to do that.
                                         
                                        You got me there? Checkmate, Tuler.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she made everyone S&L feel nervous.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Not an easy thing to do.
                                         
                                        They're the most badass dudes around.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Who would have been on that time?
                                         
                                        That's 90s one.
                                         
                                        That was like 92.
                                         
                                        So you're talking like Sandler and Farley, right?
                                         
    
                                        I bet she didn't like them.
                                         
                                        No, probably not.
                                         
                                        You'll actually not take it back.
                                         
                                        I think she's a bit of a cunt because she didn't like Andrew Dice Clay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right, yeah.
                                         
                                        Actually, fuck her, actually.
                                         
                                        Oh, hicka, dicker, re-knack.
                                         
                                        Sheenade was shook in my cack.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, you know, the whole thing was he was supposed to be on,
                                         
                                        I think he was supposed to host it and she's a musical guest.
                                         
                                        She was like, I will not do it with Andrew Dice Clay.
                                         
                                        He's bad.
                                         
                                        I will not do it without Andrew Joyce Clay.
                                         
                                        It's absolutely disgraceful.
                                         
                                        Who's having the last laugh now
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        You're still mentally ill
                                         
                                        And he's fucking
                                         
                                        Dice, Dice, Dice
                                         
                                        Dice! The Dice man
                                         
                                        cometh all over your face
                                         
                                        Love
                                         
                                        Ruud legs
                                         
                                        Sorry, we were meant to get silly
                                         
    
                                        We were talking about dead children
                                         
                                        No, that's not how you respond to that
                                         
                                        Anyway, go on
                                         
                                        Yeah, dead children go
                                         
                                        So he was dating to Niel O'Connor
                                         
                                        Had a daughter where he was also an alcoholic
                                         
                                        During this time
                                         
                                        Which kind of explains a lot
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Maybe that's why she ripped up the Pope
                                         
                                        if she thought it was John Waters
                                         
                                        Like take that
                                         
                                        That would be funny if they're all like
                                         
                                        This is against a Catholic church
                                         
                                        And sexual abuse
                                         
                                        And she was like nah
                                         
    
                                        My boyfriend's a dick
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He makes me do the dishes
                                         
                                        But he doesn't dry the dishes
                                         
                                        So he wrote a number of very successful books
                                         
                                        About religion
                                         
                                        Politics and you two
                                         
                                        Big U2
                                         
    
                                        The Holy Trinity
                                         
                                        Oh my God
                                         
                                        This literally
                                         
                                        What's ruined Ireland
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Could you imagine
                                         
                                        Have a few pites
                                         
    
                                        With this guy
                                         
                                        he talks about how great Bono
                                         
                                        and Jesus are
                                         
                                        so he gets even cooler
                                         
                                        in 2010
                                         
                                        he entered the Eurovision song contest
                                         
                                        oh wow
                                         
                                        he wrote the song
                                         
    
                                        he didn't perform it okay
                                         
                                        probably trying to like
                                         
                                        oh I can do what Chenade does
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        a piece of piss isn't it
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        his song came last
                                         
                                        he got the least number of votes
                                         
    
                                        in the entire competition
                                         
                                        ha tick that
                                         
                                        do you know what it was called
                                         
                                        something very generic
                                         
                                        like
                                         
                                        Shanade's a bit
                                         
                                        It was something like we are together
                                         
                                        We are the people
                                         
    
                                        Something very generic like that
                                         
                                        It wasn't like
                                         
                                        Free the Pitos
                                         
                                        Yeah it wasn't like
                                         
                                        Beeps with attitude
                                         
                                        Well you know what
                                         
                                        Historically Catholics have actually been persecuted more
                                         
                                        So he was a big supporter of Brexit
                                         
    
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        And IRX it
                                         
                                        Oh, he wanted like the Irish version
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Which I never call him
                                         
                                        Because it doesn't sound right
                                         
                                        Doesn't I rexit
                                         
    
                                        A rexit
                                         
                                        Or no
                                         
                                        A rexit dysfunction
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        That could be a funny
                                         
                                        If you did a political
                                         
                                        Comedy special
                                         
                                        Which I've been planning
                                         
    
                                        For years
                                         
                                        As you will know
                                         
                                        When you go full Bill Maher
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Can we talk about
                                         
                                        I ragsit
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        This just sounds
                                         
    
                                        Like you can't get hard
                                         
                                        That's what happens
                                         
                                        when you try to fuck white bitches
                                         
                                        am I right?
                                         
                                        Just Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.
                                         
                                        So he was
                                         
                                        Now, he kind of came to
                                         
                                        Provenant, he became big.
                                         
    
                                        Prominence?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Brian doesn't like it
                                         
                                        when I pronounce the words right.
                                         
                                        I can't even think of another word.
                                         
                                        He got mega, he got famous.
                                         
                                        He got well popular in it.
                                         
                                        He got notoriety.
                                         
    
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Pulled out with a bag like a rabbit.
                                         
                                        Oh, my mother.
                                         
                                        hard now. He got no variety
                                         
                                        during the gay marriage debate.
                                         
                                        Oh, right. And he was one of these big little
                                         
                                        pussies. I respect someone who goes, I don't
                                         
                                        like gay marriage because it's weird.
                                         
    
                                        I respect that.
                                         
                                        They shouldn't be touching. It's weird.
                                         
                                        It makes me feel sick.
                                         
                                        No one can ever take this out
                                         
                                        of context. You keep going.
                                         
                                        But I, you know, I don't, I don't
                                         
                                        support it. No. But I go like...
                                         
                                        You respect somebody who's like, you know what?
                                         
    
                                        Fair play to them for being so unapolitan.
                                         
                                        Legitically wrong. Let's have a parade for him.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No, but I hate it and he saw this
                                         
                                        a lot of people who are like, just because I
                                         
                                        didn't disagree with gay marriage
                                         
                                        doesn't mean I'm a homophobe.
                                         
                                        In fact, the accusation that
                                         
    
                                        I am homophobic is homophobic
                                         
                                        in itself.
                                         
                                        Ah, yes. You're the real
                                         
                                        posse, you're the real cunt here.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so they're like,
                                         
                                        I don't mind what they do in the
                                         
                                        privacy of their own home, but just
                                         
                                        don't make me
                                         
    
                                        I have to look at it.
                                         
                                        Don't do it in the supermarket.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        you might not remember this.
                                         
                                        There's a big debate
                                         
                                        over gay marriage.
                                         
    
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        yay or nay.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        why would I not remember it?
                                         
                                        This is you in your wild times,
                                         
                                        you know?
                                         
                                        Yeah, 2015.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
    
                                        That was when you're
                                         
                                        on the head shops and stuff,
                                         
                                        wasn't it?
                                         
                                        Not in 2015, no.
                                         
                                        I was clean then, man.
                                         
                                        You actually was clean then.
                                         
                                        I didn't like,
                                         
                                        I had quit doing drugs,
                                         
    
                                        quit smoking, quit drinking, all of it.
                                         
                                        I kicked it all.
                                         
                                        And then the gays got married, and you're like,
                                         
                                        oh, oh, off the wagon.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Off the rainbow-colored wagon.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So it had lots of debate and RT about it, okay?
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Oh, see, great for viewing figures.
                                         
                                        They got panty on.
                                         
                                        Panty, as in Panty Bliss.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Now, guess which side of the divide Panty falls?
                                         
                                        Well, you know what?
                                         
                                        I used to go to the George quite regularly,
                                         
    
                                        and I remember the Sunday night
                                         
                                        they'd have bingo
                                         
                                        and then the drag showcase
                                         
                                        I used to go there with my gay friends
                                         
                                        and take pills and dance the night away
                                         
                                        and this is like what are we talking like 2010
                                         
                                        I was yeah yeah
                                         
                                        that's insane how different our lives were back then
                                         
    
                                        you know like so I was like you know
                                         
                                        progressive and cool
                                         
                                        until it became cool
                                         
                                        to be progressive and cool
                                         
                                        and then I joined the right people
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        That's crazy back then you were like disco partying
                                         
                                        You were basically doing Studio 54
                                         
    
                                        Yeah pretty much
                                         
                                        Whereas what would I be doing in 2010? Did Inception come out?
                                         
                                        It had, yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think I was just watching Inception over and over again
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was my version of like
                                         
                                        How that doesn't work? How do they have dreams in the dreams?
                                         
                                        I was just sitting there like, there's no gaze in Inception
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        I look back and like, thank God
                                         
                                        No one in Inception turned out
                                         
                                        Look at that Ellen page
                                         
                                        Now that's the top bird
                                         
                                        Oh, shaggyelic
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And good for him
                                         
    
                                        And I voted yes in the referendum
                                         
                                        And my brother's a gay
                                         
                                        So I am covered baby
                                         
                                        I'm bulletproof
                                         
                                        Come at me
                                         
                                        I'm Goldman Sachs
                                         
                                        You ain't getting shit on me
                                         
                                        Peace
                                         
    
                                        Anyway
                                         
                                        Go
                                         
                                        So yeah panty came on
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        And panty was like
                                         
                                        Oh no panty didn't say that
                                         
                                        How does panty sound
                                         
                                        I don't know, man
                                         
    
                                        I was off my face the whole time
                                         
                                        I don't remember
                                         
                                        Hi, I'm
                                         
                                        Hello there
                                         
                                        I'm Panty Bliss
                                         
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        The Panty Bliss
                                         
                                        Well like
                                         
    
                                        Panty Blas is their stage name
                                         
                                        So with Rory
                                         
                                        It's a guy
                                         
                                        It's Rory
                                         
                                        It's Rory, uh
                                         
                                        Rory Stories
                                         
                                        Rory stories
                                         
                                        Rory Story
                                         
    
                                        Jesus
                                         
                                        You have a point
                                         
                                        Who ain't dress on you
                                         
                                        When you go to the guy
                                         
                                        They think you're a big fucking agent
                                         
                                        Eh
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm way more offended
                                         
    
                                        By Rory's stories
                                         
                                        than Panty Blase
                                         
                                        Anyway
                                         
                                        So Rory
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Panty
                                         
                                        Panty came on
                                         
                                        She said
                                         
    
                                        That John Waters
                                         
                                        Was homophobic
                                         
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        This caused a big
                                         
                                        Shit show
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And then John Waters
                                         
                                        was like
                                         
    
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        John did
                                         
                                        He basically
                                         
                                        Did the
                                         
                                        Big fake
                                         
                                        Like
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        Heaven mercy
                                         
    
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        I'm a victim
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        And then he
                                         
                                        like sued
                                         
                                        RT for loads
                                         
                                        Of the money
                                         
                                        And RT
                                         
    
                                        had to like
                                         
                                        grovel
                                         
                                        Really
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He won the case
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        They just
                                         
                                        bent over
                                         
    
                                        And John Waters
                                         
                                        heterosexually
                                         
                                        fucked them in the ass
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        God, I really
                                         
                                        you know what
                                         
                                        I can kind of
                                         
                                        sympathize with Jemo Doherty
                                         
    
                                        John Waters
                                         
                                        just sounds like a fucking
                                         
                                        bell end
                                         
                                        Oh he is
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Like an absolute chode
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Yeah he's a real embarrassment
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Just a fucking gobsho
                                         
                                        There's a funny thing
                                         
                                        Once where he like
                                         
                                        Went to Electric Picnic
                                         
                                        in like
                                         
                                        2014 I think
                                         
                                        And he wrote this big thing
                                         
    
                                        Like
                                         
                                        There's nothing meaningful here
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It's all young people
                                         
                                        gallivanting
                                         
                                        they don't care about music
                                         
                                        And it's like, you're in your 50s
                                         
                                        He's one of those concerts
                                         
    
                                        Like, they can't even name seven
                                         
                                        What would you think?
                                         
                                        What band would he like?
                                         
                                        Zeppelin?
                                         
                                        I think, yeah, Zeppelin, yeah.
                                         
                                        You don't even know Zeppelin.
                                         
                                        But you know status quo
                                         
                                        Or thin lizzie?
                                         
    
                                        Ultra box.
                                         
                                        Roxy music.
                                         
                                        You don't know now, pal.
                                         
                                        I was a mod.
                                         
                                        So he's anti-vaccine.
                                         
                                        He's anti-immigration.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He doesn't believe depression's real.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's a...
                                         
                                        That's pretty funny with...
                                         
                                        Being in a relationship with Shadayette O'Connor.
                                         
                                        I'm depressed.
                                         
                                        Ah, give it over, love.
                                         
                                        Just having women's problems.
                                         
                                        I don't believe in depression, bipolar or bald.
                                         
    
                                        Menstrual cycle.
                                         
                                        Just sounds like a gay bike.
                                         
                                        Come on, get up and do some work.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so...
                                         
                                        Now, here you like.
                                         
                                        this now. He recently
                                         
                                        and I mean like in last few days
                                         
                                        Sheney O'Connor has started
                                         
    
                                        to change the org position
                                         
                                        to get John Waters and Gemmauderdy
                                         
                                        arrested. Wow. For inciting
                                         
                                        racial hate. Okay.
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        once again people are like oh
                                         
                                        Gem is so racial hate
                                         
                                        really? Well I don't
                                         
    
                                        agree with it personally but I do think
                                         
                                        they are harassing a lot of like
                                         
                                        there's a lot of immigrants
                                         
                                        and stuff. Yeah no if you want to classify that
                                         
                                        racial hate
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        it's just a
                                         
                                        bit of banter
                                         
                                        no one
                                         
                                        can take a joke
                                         
                                        anymore man
                                         
                                        yeah what's
                                         
                                        Grand Torino
                                         
    
                                        I'm doing
                                         
                                        grand Torino
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        this is just
                                         
                                        what guys do
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        just like
                                         
                                        grand Torino's
                                         
    
                                        like
                                         
                                        you don't like
                                         
                                        sausages
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        where are your
                                         
                                        rashers
                                         
                                        you hell
                                         
                                        a hell
                                         
    
                                        son of a bitch
                                         
                                        good
                                         
                                        not
                                         
                                        no
                                         
                                        no
                                         
                                        come on now
                                         
                                        when are we
                                         
                                        get into
                                         
    
                                        the dead
                                         
                                        children
                                         
                                        Brian
                                         
                                        yeah you're right
                                         
                                        you
                                         
                                        promise
                                         
                                        dead children. So,
                                         
                                        Gemma Dardy,
                                         
    
                                        Kant, John Waters, even
                                         
                                        bigger, Kant. Let's go on to
                                         
                                        the dead Mary Doyle case, okay?
                                         
                                        Boyle. Okay, Mary Boyle.
                                         
                                        So Mary Boyle, she went missing.
                                         
                                        Her last known whereabouts was with her
                                         
                                        uncle. Her uncle, Jerry.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah. Jerry, who was a member of Fienafall.
                                         
    
                                        Yes. And that might
                                         
                                        become important. Maybe become relevant
                                         
                                        a little later on, we'll have to see.
                                         
                                        So his account is he's walking.
                                         
                                        along the fields of Dunnigal
                                         
                                        with his like
                                         
                                        what was she like four or something like that?
                                         
                                        Six.
                                         
    
                                        Oh she was six.
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah.
                                         
                                        Now this is like part of like this around kind of like
                                         
                                        Bali Shannon area but it's like really rural Ireland
                                         
                                        in the 70s.
                                         
                                        So we're talking like the sticks here.
                                         
                                        Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Like there's fucking very few houses around.
                                         
                                        There's not a lot of cars that like you know
                                         
                                        there's not a lot going on in the area.
                                         
                                        So for her to just go missing you know it's weird.
                                         
                                        In like a like a big place where like there's not
                                         
                                        where she could go
                                         
                                        like there's a lake there but the lake
                                         
                                        yeah like if she had like yeah but
                                         
    
                                        you know they they fucking looked
                                         
                                        everywhere for they sent divers into
                                         
                                        the lakes they looked around the bogs
                                         
                                        if she had fallen in somewhere
                                         
                                        or drowned somewhere and then like that the body
                                         
                                        would have been recovered in fact in the podcast
                                         
                                        listened to about the case one man said
                                         
                                        if there was a frog with a broken leg
                                         
    
                                        they would have found him
                                         
                                        wow what a silly silly
                                         
                                        sentence for that man to say
                                         
                                        but he was working on that for ages
                                         
                                        Anyway, yeah
                                         
                                        So it's just a bizarre thing
                                         
                                        So he's walking along with her in the field
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        He and his count is
                                         
                                        He sees like a kind of like a puddle or like a
                                         
                                        Bit of like a waterlogged area
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        So he's like look I'm gonna walk across
                                         
                                        Come hold a ladder
                                         
                                        You run along back home
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm
                                         
    
                                        And now one of his things is he said
                                         
                                        That she could climb the wall herself
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And people are like she's way too small
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Because these walls are like kind of high up or whatever
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        She was just a six year old girl
                                         
                                        She was tiny
                                         
                                        She wouldn't have been able
                                         
                                        And apparently there was like three walls
                                         
                                        That she would have had to have climbed by herself
                                         
                                        So then like isn't it the case where like
                                         
                                        She goes missing then the uncle's almost like
                                         
                                        His story's inaccurate
                                         
    
                                        It's constantly changing
                                         
                                        Every time somebody asks him
                                         
                                        It's something slightly different
                                         
                                        First he's like
                                         
                                        Oh yeah I was the last one with her
                                         
                                        And then he goes oh wait no I haven't seen her
                                         
                                        It's like I told her to go back
                                         
                                        Oh no she went back on her own
                                         
    
                                        Like it just was all just slightly different every time
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        and...
                                         
                                        So it becomes
                                         
                                        a big case
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        this missing girl
                                         
                                        and the police
                                         
    
                                        are investigating
                                         
                                        an Irish
                                         
                                        Madeline McCann
                                         
                                        some might say
                                         
                                        that's what they say
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        now the alleged
                                         
    
                                        version of a story
                                         
                                        is that someone
                                         
                                        will get into
                                         
                                        who maybe
                                         
                                        but someone made
                                         
                                        a call
                                         
                                        into the police station
                                         
                                        and was like
                                         
    
                                        okay maybe
                                         
                                        maybe turn
                                         
                                        this whole thing
                                         
                                        down a little bit
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        because I think
                                         
                                        the investigating
                                         
                                        officers were
                                         
    
                                        like um okay we're all pretty sure that it's the uncle right they're like that that was the speculation
                                         
                                        that was the theory from very early on it's like he's acting fishy his story doesn't match up
                                         
                                        this girl is not being found anywhere there's just and so they were all like the guardie were
                                         
                                        all like like the investigating officers that's the uncle we think it's the uncle but then
                                         
                                        they get phone call from a politician who are like yeah maybe ease off on the uncle and
                                         
                                        we don't think it's in.
                                         
                                        Don't be questioning
                                         
                                        too much.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Because he's got anxiety.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        There was no anxiety in the 70s.
                                         
                                        Like, he's a bit funny in the head.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He stressed out about something,
                                         
    
                                        maybe a murder of some kind.
                                         
                                        So leave him alone.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So that's the thing
                                         
                                        that Jim O'Darty's documentary
                                         
                                        proposes is that there was
                                         
                                        a political interference in the case.
                                         
                                        Because the Uncle Jerry,
                                         
    
                                        as you said, kind of canvassed
                                         
                                        for a specific phenofoil
                                         
                                        Yeah, we'll get on to who.
                                         
                                        We'll get on to who.
                                         
                                        But that was the story that
                                         
                                        he was a big fiend of fall man,
                                         
                                        worked with them for years.
                                         
                                        And Dunnigall is such a like boys club
                                         
    
                                        that you can just be like,
                                         
                                        look, I'm getting a bit of trouble there.
                                         
                                        Can you just like,
                                         
                                        come on, they're giving me a fucking
                                         
                                        bit of hassle here about a dead girl.
                                         
                                        Can you just fucking clear this up for me?
                                         
                                        Yeah, again, this is like back in the day
                                         
                                        when, you know, I think you kind of said to me before,
                                         
    
                                        it's like, it was so easy to get away
                                         
                                        with corruption and shit.
                                         
                                        If you were in any way connected,
                                         
                                        if you had a bit of sway,
                                         
                                        because here's the thing, man.
                                         
                                        The Irish, especially in rural Ireland, it's like we've been designed to just keep our mouth shut, ignore everything.
                                         
                                        That's why the British could rule us so easy and the Catholic Church could rule it so easy.
                                         
                                        Even now, the guards, like, this culture that we have bred is very much, I mean, it's changing now for the better, but for a long time, it's like, oh, no, sure, sure, it's a bit of funny business, but sure, you know, you better say nothing, you'd be better off if you had nothing at all.
                                         
    
                                        And that's literally the ethos of it, you know?
                                         
                                        Yeah, like they mentioned this in the podcast as well.
                                         
                                        It's almost as if the Irish people are the perfect,
                                         
                                        the perfect type of people to keep quiet and support,
                                         
                                        not support, but just like ignore victims.
                                         
                                        Yes, and by doing so, they facilitate.
                                         
                                        They do facilitate these kind of things.
                                         
                                        We're very good at being oppressed.
                                         
    
                                        When a huge, bigger institution comes in and oppresses us,
                                         
                                        whatever's in our DNA is like,
                                         
                                        we just take it.
                                         
                                        We are the gimps of Europe.
                                         
                                        Literally, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        At least the Scottish
                                         
                                        like put a bit of a fight
                                         
    
                                        about it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, true, yeah.
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        they went a bit of a
                                         
                                        bit of brave heart
                                         
                                        and we're just like,
                                         
                                        oh, come on in.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Don't bother wiping your feet,
                                         
                                        you stick it up.
                                         
                                        Have a go.
                                         
                                        Come on,
                                         
                                        my daughter's right there,
                                         
                                        have a little go now.
                                         
                                        Don't fill up before dinner.
                                         
                                        Yeah, don't fill up on bread,
                                         
    
                                        you know what I mean?
                                         
                                        But yeah, so, you know,
                                         
                                        and that's a thing.
                                         
                                        So the girl goes missing, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then very weirdly,
                                         
                                        a lot of the local press at the time
                                         
                                        are putting out things like
                                         
    
                                        well she's gone and she'll never be found
                                         
                                        yeah this is like four days into the case
                                         
                                        yeah yeah yeah and
                                         
                                        they were saying that
                                         
                                        this is very weird and for local newspapers
                                         
                                        back then they were all
                                         
                                        they had to be to get stories
                                         
                                        to be very very close to the police
                                         
    
                                        yes absolutely and basically just
                                         
                                        be their mouthpiece yeah yeah because
                                         
                                        like yeah I mean
                                         
                                        there was no fucking social media or anything
                                         
                                        like that like if you wanted details
                                         
                                        on a case you had to actually
                                         
                                        just rely on the police to tell you
                                         
                                        and so as you say yeah they just sort of became
                                         
    
                                        the sound board or the mouthpiece
                                         
                                        for whatever the guards or politicians
                                         
                                        wanted and also there is a very
                                         
                                        well documented link
                                         
                                        between phenofoil I mean all
                                         
                                        political parties but phenofal especially
                                         
                                        and the guardee you know what I mean? Yes
                                         
                                        and apparently Duny Gaul
                                         
    
                                        in particular has very strong
                                         
                                        phenofal roots yeah and there's like
                                         
                                        multiple documentaries multiple articles
                                         
                                        about something called the Duny Gaul Mafia
                                         
                                        Yes. No, I never actually heard that term before.
                                         
                                        Yeah, apparently it's just a lot of very powerful families, rich people, and just well-connected politicians all just kind of like live around that Donegal area.
                                         
                                        Right, okay.
                                         
                                        And these are like generational politicians.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Like lads who like, they don't know anything else.
                                         
                                        They're like, me great-granddaddy, he was a politician.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I just become this.
                                         
                                        So it's kind of like the closest thing that we have to like dynasty.
                                         
                                        here. It really is the closest thing we have
                                         
                                        to royalty. Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Even more inbred.
                                         
                                        And then
                                         
                                        there's actually a bit of
                                         
                                        a crossover or a connection between
                                         
                                        this sort of these
                                         
                                        Dunnigall, you know,
                                         
                                        politicians and like, you know, business leaders.
                                         
                                        There's a little bit of a connection
                                         
    
                                        or a loose connection to actual
                                         
                                        British royal family and aristocracy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, Lord Mountbatten was...
                                         
                                        Yeah. You know, he lived around
                                         
                                        Sligo, Mollock Moore and Sligo.
                                         
                                        My mate. You know, Shane, my mate.
                                         
                                        You know, Shane.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        He blew him up, didn't he?
                                         
                                        Huh?
                                         
                                        He blew him up.
                                         
                                        He did, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, he blew him.
                                         
                                        Oh, you got that?
                                         
                                        No, Shane, yeah, Shane blew him.
                                         
                                        He blew him so hard.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, the kids died as well.
                                         
                                        But, no, like, so they, his family have a gaff up and Mullock Moore.
                                         
                                        So, and we used to go there, like, every summer and, like, party and hang out.
                                         
                                        But, like, there's, you know, very close to the ruins of the castle where Mountbatten was known to holiday and frequent.
                                         
                                        and, you know, very, then, like, right beside the harbour,
                                         
                                        like, where he got blown up and all, so...
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, the thing is, all these, like, phenofal T-Ds,
                                         
    
                                        they kind of consider themselves, like,
                                         
                                        we're, like, jukes and earls, you know?
                                         
                                        We are the self-appointed, you know,
                                         
                                        we control the rabble, the rabble,
                                         
                                        if they had free will, they wouldn't know what to do with it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        They need sophisticated dunny gall men
                                         
                                        to rule with an iron fist.
                                         
    
                                        So they would like hanging out with, like, the,
                                         
                                        the royal and the rich and the...
                                         
                                        And, you know, I think they got to learn pretty easily.
                                         
                                        How do you get in with people who are so much better than you in, you know, their social standing and whatever else?
                                         
                                        Like, how do you actually get in with them?
                                         
                                        Well, you facilitate their needs and you kind of find out what their specific tastes are and you accommodate them, whatever that might be.
                                         
                                        Look, you go to dinner party, James.
                                         
                                        You bring a bottle of wine.
                                         
    
                                        I do.
                                         
                                        Buckfast, usually.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I drink it in the toilet by myself.
                                         
                                        And then I come out,
                                         
                                        the Cadman Unleashed.
                                         
                                        Woo, woo, woo.
                                         
                                        I've got a DVD of Animal House, lads.
                                         
    
                                        Let's get it going.
                                         
                                        Well, that's basically what these people do,
                                         
                                        where they bring, like, a 10-year-old boy.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then they fuck him in the bathroom.
                                         
                                        Literally.
                                         
                                        That is literally what happens.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but they, like, it's like that.
                                         
    
                                        See, here's the thing.
                                         
                                        A lot of people are like,
                                         
                                        oh man back then it was like these
                                         
                                        these a few crazy
                                         
                                        fucked up pedos
                                         
                                        were running this crazy ring
                                         
                                        it was just normal back then
                                         
                                        yeah it was just being polite
                                         
    
                                        if you're in that running those circles
                                         
                                        just like oh you didn't bring a child to fuck
                                         
                                        what's up with him
                                         
                                        what's with this guy
                                         
                                        movie cunt
                                         
                                        he's coming up to the house with one arm
                                         
                                        as long as the other
                                         
                                        you ever hear that saying
                                         
    
                                        no that means like
                                         
                                        when you come to the house
                                         
                                        with one arm as long as the other
                                         
                                        means you didn't bring anything
                                         
                                        Okay, that's a fun, yeah
                                         
                                        With a dark origin
                                         
                                        But it was just a normal thing
                                         
                                        That like all these guys did
                                         
    
                                        And they're all just like
                                         
                                        Hey fucking everyone else does it
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm not gonna say
                                         
                                        Hey am I gonna turn down
                                         
                                        A sweet little bit of
                                         
                                        A 11 year old Poon tank
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                        I like I mean look at the Catholic church
                                         
                                        And like all these institutions
                                         
                                        Like it's just rampant
                                         
                                        Like we have been criticised on this podcast
                                         
                                        Like who's talking about Pito's like
                                         
                                        Well it's not our fault
                                         
                                        That they're literally fucking everywhere
                                         
                                        every single institution
                                         
    
                                        and you know
                                         
                                        that's the thing
                                         
                                        the thing about it is when there is
                                         
                                        an institution okay
                                         
                                        it's sort of it has to put across
                                         
                                        this image of being
                                         
                                        omnipotent and infallible
                                         
                                        that it can't be called into question
                                         
    
                                        or criticised
                                         
                                        it's kind of the good of the institution
                                         
                                        above all else
                                         
                                        but the thing is
                                         
                                        these institutions are made up of people
                                         
                                        who are fallible and make mistakes
                                         
                                        and fuck up
                                         
                                        so I think abusers
                                         
    
                                        and they're horny.
                                         
                                        Yes, yes.
                                         
                                        But abusers tend to flock to these institutions
                                         
                                        because they know institutions like that
                                         
                                        are very good at covering shit up
                                         
                                        and keeping it on the down low
                                         
                                        so it's not to embarrass anyone.
                                         
                                        So that's why you see it in the Catholic Church,
                                         
    
                                        you see it in the Army, you see it in the police,
                                         
                                        you see it in Hollywood, it's everywhere, man.
                                         
                                        On the Brian and James podcast?
                                         
                                        Well, not yet.
                                         
                                        As soon as we get a few more patrons
                                         
                                        will be in the money, you know?
                                         
                                        I've got big plans for something.
                                         
                                        of our
                                         
    
                                        Patriots.
                                         
                                        But anyway,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        so look,
                                         
                                        that's,
                                         
                                        we're getting
                                         
                                        ahead of ourselves.
                                         
                                        Back to Mary Boyle.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        yeah.
                                         
                                        So,
                                         
                                        let's,
                                         
                                        let's add
                                         
                                        some more layers
                                         
                                        of intrigue
                                         
                                        onto this cake.
                                         
    
                                        Let's do it.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        A big,
                                         
                                        sexy misery cake.
                                         
                                        So,
                                         
                                        the kids gone missing,
                                         
                                        all right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And they're all
                                         
                                        just kind of like,
                                         
                                        ah, sure,
                                         
                                        she's gone.
                                         
                                        Sure,
                                         
                                        you'd be a big fool
                                         
                                        looking for her now,
                                         
                                        wouldn't you?
                                         
    
                                        You look like a right EJ.
                                         
                                        That's your shit.
                                         
                                        I'm going about
                                         
                                        a week and a half.
                                         
                                        Jeez,
                                         
                                        would you not get over it
                                         
                                        now at all.
                                         
                                        Sure, fuck it,
                                         
    
                                        and we're in the county final next week.
                                         
                                        It's not all bad now,
                                         
                                        so it's not all doom and gloom.
                                         
                                        Sure, you have to take the better with the sweet.
                                         
                                        Isn't that what they say?
                                         
                                        Now, here's the thing.
                                         
                                        A lot of the family members, okay?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        Say they know who done it.
                                         
                                        Yes, yes, they do.
                                         
                                        They say they know who done it
                                         
                                        and they see him around.
                                         
                                        Yes, all the time.
                                         
                                        Now, here's the thing.
                                         
                                        Mary Boyle had a twin sister.
                                         
                                        Called Anne.
                                         
    
                                        Yes. Now, Anne has some theories
                                         
                                        about the case, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Anne suspects, because Mary was more the talkative one.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she was like very brash and brazen and like, feisty, I think, is the word Anne used to describe her.
                                         
                                        Now, the sister believes that something happened to Mary or she saw something or she knew something.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And because she was so brash.
                                         
    
                                        And feisty and talkative.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        They had to get rid of her.
                                         
                                        Because she would have said something.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        She would have lifted the lid.
                                         
                                        That's what she believes, okay?
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
    
                                        A lot of other family members agree.
                                         
                                        yeah strange thing is the mother
                                         
                                        is very against all this
                                         
                                        yeah yeah now she wasn't always against it
                                         
                                        but very quickly she did suddenly go like
                                         
                                        yeah you sure there's better things to be doing you know
                                         
                                        why you doing fucking wasting the police time
                                         
                                        yeah because okay because like Anne
                                         
    
                                        the sister Anne and her like aunt
                                         
                                        cousin I've kind of gone on this big campaign
                                         
                                        now for decades they've been like
                                         
                                        trying to get the truth and justice and blah blah
                                         
                                        It's actually crazy how dedicated there.
                                         
                                        I think if I had a sister, she would miss and I'd be like, ah, you know,
                                         
                                        yeah, you know, that's why pencils, you know, have erasers.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Swings around about.
                                         
                                        But, like, these ones are just like, we're going, okay, we're going to go to the doll.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We're going to go to Parliament and the UK.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We're going to Washington.
                                         
                                        We're going to Europe Union.
                                         
                                        And, yeah, like, they go in front of all these, like, commission boards.
                                         
    
                                        And, like, they've been all over the place.
                                         
                                        And, like, they haven't stopped.
                                         
                                        They've been relentless in their pursuits.
                                         
                                        and the mother has literally
                                         
                                        went on record and said like
                                         
                                        what are they doing going out there
                                         
                                        with all let's carry on it's absolutely ridiculous
                                         
                                        that's literally what she says
                                         
    
                                        she's just like they're making fools
                                         
                                        to themselves they need to let it go
                                         
                                        blah blah blah and yeah
                                         
                                        so I think the theory is the mother
                                         
                                        knows and is covering up for her
                                         
                                        brother the uncle that's what the theory is
                                         
                                        yeah now another little
                                         
                                        thing is the husband
                                         
    
                                        the father of Mary Boyle
                                         
                                        died
                                         
                                        mysteriously.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Now, the way to talk about it,
                                         
                                        I'm going to assume it's suicide.
                                         
                                        Suicide, probably, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Because, yeah, he never recall.
                                         
    
                                        He was, like, emotionally devastated by it.
                                         
                                        And more than likely...
                                         
                                        Wasn't it a taste where like he accidentally went out
                                         
                                        into the ocean where a brick around his foot?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was something like he just, he went...
                                         
                                        They say he died mysteriously on a fishing trip.
                                         
                                        This is somebody who grew up, like, in the heart.
                                         
                                        Like, if you're a fisherman, you know, you know...
                                         
    
                                        also wasn't it in the lake as well
                                         
                                        yeah I think it was a very
                                         
                                        it was pretty much a suicide
                                         
                                        but like
                                         
                                        everybody knows it was the uncle
                                         
                                        right
                                         
                                        so the father has to just live
                                         
                                        with the fact that
                                         
    
                                        his wife's brother
                                         
                                        probably molested
                                         
                                        and murdered their daughter
                                         
                                        oh you'd be raging
                                         
                                        wouldn't you?
                                         
                                        Oh you would be
                                         
                                        it's like
                                         
                                        you know what
                                         
    
                                        and then you get him
                                         
                                        for secret Santa
                                         
                                        you're like
                                         
                                        well oh Jesus
                                         
                                        good thing there's a 10 year old
                                         
                                        limit
                                         
                                        because I'd be fucking
                                         
                                        I'm regifting something
                                         
    
                                        oh yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        He's like
                                         
                                        Oh fuck shake
                                         
                                        He got me
                                         
                                        And only fools
                                         
                                        And horses box set again
                                         
                                        Should I have this one
                                         
    
                                        Have you got a problem with me
                                         
                                        Or something?
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        So yeah
                                         
                                        But he was obviously
                                         
                                        Devastated by it
                                         
                                        And you know
                                         
                                        You would be
                                         
    
                                        But you'd be happy to know
                                         
                                        The uncle
                                         
                                        He's dead now
                                         
                                        But he's dead now
                                         
                                        But he did a grand life
                                         
                                        He lived to her
                                         
                                        Right all age
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Didn't have any mean
                                         
                                        Detectives
                                         
                                        Asked him
                                         
                                        Too many hard questions
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Apparently they
                                         
                                        They questioned him
                                         
                                        A few times
                                         
    
                                        Even they went
                                         
                                        Against their
                                         
                                        Superiors or like
                                         
                                        come on just tell us did you do it
                                         
                                        yeah and like he wouldn't even
                                         
                                        annoy you that thing they'd be like did you do
                                         
                                        it and just be like you know quiet
                                         
                                        just didn't say anything yeah but they do
                                         
    
                                        say that around the time of
                                         
                                        the disappearance like a few weeks later
                                         
                                        when he was pressed on it he would like
                                         
                                        break down crying he'd never
                                         
                                        admit it but he would he'd be crying
                                         
                                        uncontrollably and all
                                         
                                        and then they'd be like do you think she's missing or
                                         
                                        do you think she was murdered and he was like I think
                                         
    
                                        she was murdered but he never said it was him
                                         
                                        now there's a few week
                                         
                                        kind of like theories about this
                                         
                                        that the authorities have pushed
                                         
                                        so one of them
                                         
                                        remember this in documentary
                                         
                                        was like one random guy
                                         
                                        and they arrested him
                                         
    
                                        and they made sure
                                         
                                        like his face got in the newspaper
                                         
                                        yes yeah
                                         
                                        now he was already in jail
                                         
                                        for like another
                                         
                                        like indecent assault
                                         
                                        wasn't he like showing his willies or something
                                         
                                        like that he flashed someone
                                         
    
                                        like during a mental breakdown or something
                                         
                                        yeah he was a Willie flasher
                                         
                                        he wasn't really a child murderer
                                         
                                        you have to work your way up to that
                                         
                                        and then they all
                                         
                                        also tried to say that it was actually
                                         
                                        like a Scottish...
                                         
                                        Yeah, Robert Black.
                                         
    
                                        Robert Black, he's like
                                         
                                        the Larry Bird of murderers.
                                         
                                        Okay, very prolific, great...
                                         
                                        Okay, very...
                                         
                                        Just great. Yeah.
                                         
                                        You couldn't fault him.
                                         
                                        And Bull Burnham's gonna play him in a movie.
                                         
                                        No, so he, like, murdered loads people,
                                         
    
                                        but, like, they were like...
                                         
                                        It's so funny, they were like, well, you know,
                                         
                                        he was in Scotland, and that's kind of close by,
                                         
                                        don't he go?
                                         
                                        Yeah. Not at all.
                                         
                                        And then they were like, well, he did have a job
                                         
                                        transport he was a van driver
                                         
                                        and he would go to Ireland
                                         
    
                                        but he did research and he only got to Ireland
                                         
                                        like three years after Mary Boyle disappeared
                                         
                                        like the police involved
                                         
                                        were like 100 million percent
                                         
                                        this guy was nowhere near the place
                                         
                                        but that theory got pushed
                                         
                                        legitimately and still does
                                         
                                        by who is it Barry Crimmins
                                         
    
                                        something I think this is his name yeah
                                         
                                        or am I thinking of that no is that the comedian
                                         
                                        Barry Crimmins
                                         
                                        was it Paul Marsh
                                         
                                        But I don't know
                                         
                                        Some like RTE journalists
                                         
                                        An author
                                         
                                        They made an RT documentary
                                         
    
                                        Where they pushed that theory
                                         
                                        That Robert Black is the one who did it
                                         
                                        That documentary was made with
                                         
                                        With the police
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        The police were involved
                                         
                                        They were consultants
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        It was like a special thanks
                                         
                                        To Angarde of Shia Khan
                                         
                                        Can you imagine how lucky
                                         
                                        If this is true
                                         
                                        It's not
                                         
                                        But if like
                                         
                                        It was true Robert Black was like
                                         
                                        Am I just go in a holiday's Dunigall
                                         
    
                                        And then you just go
                                         
                                        As immediately he finds
                                         
                                        A little girl wander around
                                         
                                        Like
                                         
                                        This is fucking
                                         
                                        this is my lucky day
                                         
                                        Oh my God
                                         
                                        I just hit jackpot
                                         
    
                                        Las Vegas
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        I think that's funny
                                         
                                        Yeah Brian
                                         
                                        A missing child
                                         
                                        A child dies
                                         
    
                                        And you're getting
                                         
                                        Little goofs out of it
                                         
                                        Doing one of your little skits
                                         
                                        I'm just saying that
                                         
                                        Because I couldn't think of anything
                                         
                                        It's a dad on to it
                                         
                                        So I just
                                         
                                        Shame you
                                         
    
                                        It always works
                                         
                                        But then if I
                                         
                                        Oh he probably
                                         
                                        Fucked it
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm back
                                         
                                        can't pack
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
    
                                        Tony Soprano
                                         
                                        I don't adhere
                                         
                                        to any morality
                                         
                                        or ethics
                                         
                                        that I expect
                                         
                                        other people
                                         
                                        do adhere to
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        but anyway
                                         
                                        yeah so
                                         
                                        the rubber black
                                         
                                        theory is just
                                         
                                        bullshit
                                         
                                        like and the fact
                                         
                                        that they pushed
                                         
                                        it so hard
                                         
    
                                        to me
                                         
                                        points
                                         
                                        of a cover up
                                         
                                        and conspiracy
                                         
                                        Brian
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        well also
                                         
                                        the sister
                                         
    
                                        said the police
                                         
                                        visited her house
                                         
                                        that's right
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        and we're kind of like
                                         
                                        shame is
                                         
                                        something were to happen.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she said she felt intimidated and that they were like,
                                         
    
                                        we know you keep thinking that it's the uncle, but you're wrong.
                                         
                                        It's this guy, so you need to stop pushing that theory.
                                         
                                        And she said she felt intimidated.
                                         
                                        And you know what?
                                         
                                        She also said, one of the, she was living in awfully at the time.
                                         
                                        One of the guards were from Dunigall and the other from Monaghan.
                                         
                                        Represent Monaghan.
                                         
                                        Brut, brough, brough.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, good to know we're finally getting a seat at the big table, you know.
                                         
                                        About time, you know.
                                         
                                        Or stepping up to the plate
                                         
                                        Talking of the big table
                                         
                                        You know the one very big
                                         
                                        Who comes from
                                         
                                        Duny Gall that area
                                         
                                        Enda Kenny
                                         
    
                                        Yes, that's right
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Now this is crazy
                                         
                                        And like
                                         
                                        I was thinking of
                                         
                                        This is a joke
                                         
                                        But I think it's honestly true
                                         
                                        Where I was like
                                         
    
                                        At first I was like
                                         
                                        It's funny
                                         
                                        Imagine if like
                                         
                                        Enda Kenny was afraid
                                         
                                        Of those lads
                                         
                                        of Dudigal
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He definitely is
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He definitely is
                                         
                                        Well because if they're
                                         
                                        Like
                                         
                                        That's the thing
                                         
                                        With like
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Sort of dynasties
                                         
    
                                        And you can trade
                                         
                                        you could trace it back.
                                         
                                        If it's long-standing power
                                         
                                        and money and ability
                                         
                                        to influence them corrupt,
                                         
                                        you would be terrified of that
                                         
                                        because they obviously have a lot of influence.
                                         
                                        There's a whole infrastructure in place
                                         
    
                                        that could at any moment
                                         
                                        decide to fuck you over,
                                         
                                        get rid of you, if they so decide.
                                         
                                        These are the king makers
                                         
                                        who sit, they drink their brandy
                                         
                                        and they sit in front of the fire
                                         
                                        and go, will we make him
                                         
                                        ahead of our party?
                                         
    
                                        Will he be our little
                                         
                                        Will he be our little puppet?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        And then they ring a bell
                                         
                                        And you come in
                                         
                                        And roller skates and hot pants
                                         
                                        Dance for us, boy
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
    
                                        I'm an intern
                                         
                                        Is this how I get the safe pass?
                                         
                                        So they did
                                         
                                        One of the members
                                         
                                        Who is she?
                                         
                                        Is she a cousin or something like that?
                                         
                                        She's a musician
                                         
                                        She's a musician
                                         
    
                                        Margo O'Donnell
                                         
                                        I think is her name
                                         
                                        So she's like a country western musician
                                         
                                        But she's like a cousin of
                                         
                                        Mary Ann Ballow
                                         
                                        And the sister Anne
                                         
                                        So she knew Ender
                                         
                                        From the good old days
                                         
    
                                        Before he was T-Shaw
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        She called up Ender
                                         
                                        Probably gave him a handy
                                         
                                        That's just speculation
                                         
                                        But I'm gonna
                                         
                                        No I'm going
                                         
    
                                        I want that on wax
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Give him a little HJ under the table
                                         
                                        You know what talking about
                                         
                                        Everything else you've said is bullshit
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        But that is true
                                         
                                        That's facts baby
                                         
    
                                        Jimo Adarley wouldn't even
                                         
                                        report that to afraid cowardly god but yeah so she knew end up back in the day and she was like
                                         
                                        you need to help me and my cousin were trying to find out what happened to mary uh mary boyle yeah
                                         
                                        but he was just like no i can't do they'll hurt me yeah yeah no he did the kind of like
                                         
                                        we will look into that yeah i'll pass it on to the guardee that anytime they went to any sort
                                         
                                        of like a political like establishment or whatever it was always like we'll pass it
                                         
                                        the authorities. But as we
                                         
                                        well now, Brian, the authorities
                                         
    
                                        cannot be trusted.
                                         
                                        It is kind of funny
                                         
                                        where it's like, I have
                                         
                                        information about a political cover-up
                                         
                                        and the guards might be all connected
                                         
                                        and involved. We'll pass it on to the
                                         
                                        guards straight away. I'll tell you, I'll give them your
                                         
                                        dress as well.
                                         
    
                                        And here's a list of my
                                         
                                        schedule where I'll be throughout the day.
                                         
                                        Do you hide the key under the flower pot?
                                         
                                        Good to know.
                                         
                                        okay so we've been making some um you know around about kind of like references to the certain politician
                                         
                                        yes who might be involved now there's a lot of very corrupt politicians done he go like i was
                                         
                                        looking up another thing a different documentary completely about one um i think he was like a t d and
                                         
                                        also like um i think he ran a few pubs and stuff like that okay yeah and he owned a few houses
                                         
    
                                        and stuff like that, and he threw a French man
                                         
                                        out the window. Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, he wanted to see if frogs could fly, eh?
                                         
                                        Wait, oh.
                                         
                                        No, apparently...
                                         
                                        What? So he threw a Frenchman?
                                         
                                        He got an altercation with a French man
                                         
    
                                        because I think, like, he wasn't doing...
                                         
                                        He didn't agree to a business thing.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So he threw him out the window, and he got away with it.
                                         
                                        Kill him?
                                         
                                        No, no, he injured him.
                                         
                                        And the guy was like, he did it.
                                         
                                        And there was witnesses, and the guy,
                                         
    
                                        he's an interview with him, and he's like,
                                         
                                        yes, we had a, maybe a mild verbal.
                                         
                                        altercation. They say you
                                         
                                        true him out of window.
                                         
                                        I do not recall that incident.
                                         
                                        And he's kind of like winking.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fucking great, isn't it?
                                         
                                        Oh, I fucking stuck a baguette
                                         
    
                                        ratch up his shy pipe.
                                         
                                        But, um...
                                         
                                        That's mental. When did that happen?
                                         
                                        80s as well.
                                         
                                        Nice. The 80s was fucking...
                                         
                                        I'm telling you, baby. People talk about, man,
                                         
                                        New York in the 80s was great. Have you tried Donnie Gaul?
                                         
                                        Donnie Gall in the 80s, that
                                         
    
                                        the Coke was the best shit.
                                         
                                        you could get. People were blasting
                                         
                                        death leopard all day
                                         
                                        banging eight-year-olds and throwing
                                         
                                        frogs out the window. It was
                                         
                                        party time, baby. We loved it.
                                         
                                        So,
                                         
                                        the politician who rang up
                                         
    
                                        the police station. Yeah. I think
                                         
                                        his name is like Sean McEniff.
                                         
                                        Sean McEniff, I think.
                                         
                                        Let's call McSniff.
                                         
                                        McSniff. Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        For legal reasons. You know you've said
                                         
                                        his name. Oh no,
                                         
                                        I have a speech impediment. I didn't say
                                         
    
                                        his name. But it is funny because
                                         
                                        the estate, because he's dead now, but the estate
                                         
                                        tried to sue Jemmo Daugherty. Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, because she was saying like, it's him.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And then they're, you know, because they're all
                                         
                                        fucking scumbags. They are. Don't hurt my
                                         
                                        daddy's legacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So, uh, he, they say that
                                         
    
                                        he was the one who called the police
                                         
                                        station and was like, he's a good fiend of
                                         
                                        a fall man, leave him alone.
                                         
                                        Now, he is an interesting cat,
                                         
                                        all right? Okay.
                                         
                                        Uh, I got to credit you, too. Or you really went deep
                                         
                                        on this son. I respect it. Yeah, yeah. Now, he
                                         
                                        made a lot of money. He's a
                                         
    
                                        phenofal politician, a
                                         
                                        hotelier, and he made his
                                         
                                        money off slot machines.
                                         
                                        The hills,
                                         
                                        we'll have our own Las Vegas in the hills
                                         
                                        of Dunnigo. Yeah, he
                                         
                                        He's gambling up in Dunigall.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he set up loads of slot machines, and that's
                                         
    
                                        how he made his fortune, you know? Yeah, like
                                         
                                        Bundorn, like they had all those...
                                         
                                        Bundorn, Newlyne Casino.
                                         
                                        Yeah. He's basically
                                         
                                        like that. He's basically, yeah, he's
                                         
                                        ace Rothstein, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He's De Niro, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And I don't know, but, like, yeah, like, Bontor and all those seaside areas,
                                         
    
                                        they all have loads of arcades, slot machines.
                                         
                                        So, like, yeah, gambling got very big up around there.
                                         
                                        There was a lot of money to be made.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, and he was in the center of all that, okay?
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        And to make it even more hilariously Irish, okay?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        His brother is, like, one of the biggest guy.
                                         
    
                                        He's one the biggest guy he's in the guy.
                                         
                                        Oh, like, he was a very well-known footballer.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think he was, like, a well-known footballer,
                                         
                                        than coach and then like senior management
                                         
                                        like so like you merge those
                                         
                                        two together okay man you could
                                         
                                        literally you could fuck a child
                                         
                                        on the late late show
                                         
    
                                        and then deny it and people be like
                                         
                                        ah yeah I probably misremembered that
                                         
                                        I mean for our international listeners who might not
                                         
                                        understand how big the GAA is
                                         
                                        if you put together
                                         
                                        GAA and casino we're talking
                                         
                                        I mean they are the Rothschilds
                                         
                                        basically they control it all
                                         
    
                                        NFL fucking piece of piss
                                         
                                        yeah it's dog shit this is the
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's true
                                         
                                        So this is how big he is
                                         
                                        And then there's like
                                         
                                        Now again, I'm going to
                                         
                                        I'm not saying this
                                         
                                        This is what Gemma says
                                         
    
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        To quote Gemma O'Dard
                                         
                                        So I'm quoting Gemma now
                                         
                                        For the next 20 minutes
                                         
                                        So there's a lot of allegations
                                         
                                        About him
                                         
                                        You know corruption
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
    
                                        He adjourned for elections
                                         
                                        He bused people in from the north
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        To get them to vote like
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        You know faking elections
                                         
                                        Sure
                                         
                                        You're rigging the election?
                                         
    
                                        A lot of dead people voting.
                                         
                                        Not really, but that's like that kind of vibe.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that kind of thing.
                                         
                                        There's also, again, what Jemis says,
                                         
                                        there was a girl who says that, you know,
                                         
                                        he kind of uses hotels as like a nice place to, you know, run sex rings.
                                         
                                        Yeah, basically have like orgies for like, you know,
                                         
                                        prominent politicians, businessmen,
                                         
    
                                        both domestic and international.
                                         
                                        So they'd be Irish, but there'd be like ones from like,
                                         
                                        England, maybe even America
                                         
                                        so he really did host
                                         
                                        and facilitate these very
                                         
                                        you know, kind of
                                         
                                        sex parties, essentially
                                         
                                        drug and sex orgies
                                         
    
                                        and not all the people involved
                                         
                                        were of age. Allegedly. Allegedly.
                                         
                                        According to Jama. This is what Jemma
                                         
                                        Stained. He was involved in some grooming.
                                         
                                        You call it grooming. He might call
                                         
                                        just being a good businessman. Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else?
                                         
                                        He also, he had a few like,
                                         
    
                                        oh, this is very funny now.
                                         
                                        He was really big into,
                                         
                                        he wanted to build a monument
                                         
                                        to Lord Mountbatten.
                                         
                                        That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        That was one of his big things.
                                         
                                        He's like, this,
                                         
                                        I, we need to do,
                                         
    
                                        we need to take the,
                                         
                                        you know the fund for a hospital?
                                         
                                        Fuck that hospital.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We need a big,
                                         
                                        a monument of Mountbatten
                                         
                                        bigger than the pyramids.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        With two little boys
                                         
                                        standing right beside him
                                         
                                        with a worried lock
                                         
                                        on their face.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I forgot about this.
                                         
                                        You know the FBI
                                         
                                        have files on Mountbatten.
                                         
                                        That's right, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And in the files, this is literally a quote
                                         
                                        in the FBI files
                                         
                                        that he was a person of very low
                                         
                                        moral standing, who may very well
                                         
                                        have been a paedophile with a proclivity
                                         
                                        for young boys. That's literally
                                         
                                        in fucking declassified FBI
                                         
                                        documents. Lord Mountbatten
                                         
    
                                        was a nonce. Man, that's so funny to think of
                                         
                                        like J. Edgar Hoover. Is I looking over
                                         
                                        these and me like, oh, Mountbatten.
                                         
                                        Nice. That's a real shit puppy
                                         
                                        right there. Duny goal.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        Eleanor, pack my bags.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, well, we're, well, we're seeing that.
                                         
    
                                        So he wanted to, so that's kind of sussed there.
                                         
                                        He wanted to erect a statue to Mountbat.
                                         
                                        He also was very anti-traveller.
                                         
                                        Yeah, very anti-traveller.
                                         
                                        Like, literally, he said, did you put in isolation?
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're dogs that need to be put on.
                                         
                                        He was like, you know, the Simpsons movie.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Can we do that, but we're travelers.
                                         
                                        And yellow people, if there's any of them.
                                         
                                        Oh, again, that's what he said.
                                         
                                        not me.
                                         
                                        We're directly quoting him.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        But he was.
                                         
                                        He was very, you know, he hated travellers.
                                         
    
                                        Actually, that's another thing to try to,
                                         
                                        another suspect for the Mary Boyle case.
                                         
                                        Like, it was probably the gypsies, you know?
                                         
                                        They did say that actually, yeah.
                                         
                                        She was probably, like, you know,
                                         
                                        picked up by travellers driving along the country road.
                                         
                                        They probably used their black magic.
                                         
                                        Yeah, probably turned her into a bucket.
                                         
    
                                        That's what they do, don't they?
                                         
                                        Yeah, the bloody tinkers.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know what John Conner is all about.
                                         
                                        yeah so yeah it's it's mental man it's now it is 20 21 correct we do not know anything they haven't even found her shoe they haven't found bit of her hair they found nothing nothing the uncle's dead the uncle has died peacefully asleep with big smile in his face
                                         
                                        and uh what about the mother is she dead the mother i i gotta assume she's dead right well the podcast i listened to it was from 2019 yeah said that the mother
                                         
                                        was alive and apparently
                                         
                                        he's getting a lot of hate mail.
                                         
                                        Okay. I think the sister's getting hate mail as well.
                                         
    
                                        A lot of like, you know, like, you fucking
                                         
                                        cunt. Yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                        Probably more creative than that, but...
                                         
                                        I would hope so. I'm not very good at harassing
                                         
                                        women, am I?
                                         
                                        Nice save, Tuler. Yes.
                                         
                                        Ooh, do you all think I'm woke.
                                         
                                        But, um, yeah, so
                                         
    
                                        there's still been no...
                                         
                                        They're no closer to finding the truth or justice
                                         
                                        and let's be honest, probably never
                                         
                                        Will they won't
                                         
                                        They won't
                                         
                                        No no
                                         
                                        Even like
                                         
                                        The Paul Tid
                                         
    
                                        The Sean McSniff
                                         
                                        He died
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Very funny
                                         
                                        He was like in his hospital
                                         
                                        He was in the hospital
                                         
                                        He got like some kind of like
                                         
                                        I think he was on the holiday
                                         
    
                                        In like Florida or something like that
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And he just fell down
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Turned out he had some off disease
                                         
                                        And he was like dying
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        But the whole time
                                         
    
                                        Jim O'Darty was like
                                         
                                        He's faking it
                                         
                                        Oh nice
                                         
                                        Lies
                                         
                                        Crocodile cancer
                                         
                                        That's what you got
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And then when he's dead
                                         
    
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Take him up
                                         
                                        I want to see the bones
                                         
                                        Oh it's fake
                                         
                                        Like she digs them up
                                         
                                        Like oh
                                         
                                        Laie slapping around
                                         
                                        Oh look with this good actor
                                         
    
                                        Look with all the makeup
                                         
                                        You must have taught George Floyd
                                         
                                        Did you
                                         
                                        You should be working on a bus
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah so
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Jam-a man
                                         
    
                                        She doesn't do herself any favours
                                         
                                        I kind of respected her for that
                                         
                                        I do like the idea
                                         
                                        of harassing an old man
                                         
                                        Who's dying
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Who doesn't
                                         
                                        It's pretty funny
                                         
    
                                        It's pretty funny
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Even if he wasn't a P-Dor
                                         
                                        anything. He was just like an old rich cunts. Like,
                                         
                                        yeah, you know. Yeah. You deserve it.
                                         
                                        Yeah. He was very powerful.
                                         
                                        And it's weird now, because, like, I'm
                                         
                                        so fucking blind all this shit.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, I grew up in Manon. That's very close
                                         
                                        to Donnie Gall. And I am
                                         
                                        just so totally ignorant
                                         
                                        and oblivious to all this shit.
                                         
                                        You know why? Because we don't really have the media to
                                         
                                        report. That's right. You're right. To report it that much.
                                         
                                        You know, it's fine. The only person who reportant is, like,
                                         
                                        a mentally ill woman. Yeah. Yeah. Or T.
                                         
    
                                        aren't doing it. Yeah, it's true. You think fucking
                                         
                                        um, um, well,
                                         
                                        News talk?
                                         
                                        They're not doing it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, fucking Miriam O'Callaghan.
                                         
                                        Nah.
                                         
                                        Oh, she's in the pocket.
                                         
                                        Big business, isn't she?
                                         
    
                                        Of course she is.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she's on Epstein's Island as well.
                                         
                                        Yeah, her and Podd and Raj.
                                         
                                        are all on the island.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Zigg and Zag from the planet Zog.
                                         
                                        Yeah, read into that, my friends.
                                         
                                        Zionist occupied government much.
                                         
    
                                        Again, I'm quoting Jem O'Dardy
                                         
                                        and her very well-known
                                         
                                        Zigginsag anti-Semitic theory,
                                         
                                        which I don't.
                                         
                                        don't subscribe to
                                         
                                        at all, of course.
                                         
                                        So that's
                                         
                                        everything I have
                                         
    
                                        about Mary Boyle.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I'm closing the
                                         
                                        book on the case
                                         
                                        right now.
                                         
                                        Not really.
                                         
                                        I'm going to leave it open.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Very interesting stuff.
                                         
                                        Very dark,
                                         
                                        but you know what?
                                         
                                        Like, it just,
                                         
                                        um,
                                         
                                        I think a lot of Irish people,
                                         
                                        they don't like to think
                                         
                                        that this sort of
                                         
    
                                        elite political corruption
                                         
                                        and Pito rings goes on,
                                         
                                        but it most certainly does.
                                         
                                        Even like,
                                         
                                        I bet even like the local butcher
                                         
                                        is probably raping a few kids,
                                         
                                        you know?
                                         
                                        I would hope so.
                                         
    
                                        the fucking prices he's charging
                                         
                                        I'm just saying anyone
                                         
                                        with like
                                         
                                        even what they think is power
                                         
                                        you know they're like
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        fucking might as well have a go
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        absolute power corrupts
                                         
                                        absolutely my friend
                                         
                                        I thought
                                         
                                        it might be funny
                                         
                                        I'm just thinking this now
                                         
                                        to do a show about like
                                         
                                        an incompetent
                                         
                                        like he's like
                                         
    
                                        a man
                                         
                                        like a regional manager
                                         
                                        of like a Tesco
                                         
                                        and he's like
                                         
                                        let's start our own
                                         
                                        pedo ring
                                         
                                        it's like him
                                         
                                        and the guy who works
                                         
    
                                        for CECS
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Come on, wear it.
                                         
                                        Give me the dark stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        But they can't afford the kids, so they get like,
                                         
                                        they get like me, basically, like a 26-year-old.
                                         
    
                                        Who still thinks he's a twink.
                                         
                                        Shave your pubs.
                                         
                                        We want you to look.
                                         
                                        16.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, I've been 16 for a long time, boys.
                                         
                                        They're all like,
                                         
                                        ah, you just make us depressed.
                                         
    
                                        Get out here.
                                         
                                        I can't get hard with you around.
                                         
                                        You've made this pedo ring a depressing place to be.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's fucked up.
                                         
                                        man, but hey.
                                         
                                        It's fucked and like, the thing is like, and also Ireland's, though, litigious as well, you know.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the libelous laws.
                                         
    
                                        Like, there are a lot of, like, um, there's been many cases of, like, well-known people in Irish media have been accused on Twitter, but then people have the receipts of it.
                                         
                                        They got, like, fucking screenshots and can prove that they were in a certain place at a certain time.
                                         
                                        So there's a lot of, you know, a lot of the dots connect up and there's a lot of credibility to these accusations.
                                         
                                        but because the libel laws are so
                                         
                                        fucking strong and defamation
                                         
                                        nothing ever gets done about it. People say that
                                         
                                        I think
                                         
                                        What do you think, Brian? Come on, let's hear it.
                                         
    
                                        We know what we should do, okay? Let's test
                                         
                                        these libel laws, okay?
                                         
                                        This is something we can work on. Let's create the most
                                         
                                        libelest podcast ever, all right?
                                         
                                        All right. And then send it to
                                         
                                        the fucking, who could send it to
                                         
                                        send it to the judge?
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah, and then test it, you know.
                                         
    
                                        And it kind of like we'd be doing it for all the
                                         
                                        victims. That's right. We're standing up for
                                         
                                        them.
                                         
                                        We're standing up
                                         
                                        for all those
                                         
                                        poor women
                                         
                                        that have been
                                         
                                        abused and
                                         
    
                                        raped and all that
                                         
                                        and if we stand
                                         
                                        up for my
                                         
                                        sucker cocks
                                         
                                        they might
                                         
                                        let me smash
                                         
                                        give me your hair
                                         
                                        you whore
                                         
    
                                        yes
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        okay I like that
                                         
                                        but that's just a joke
                                         
                                        no of course
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        that's just a character
                                         
                                        Brian plays
                                         
    
                                        the mentally ill
                                         
                                        let me fuck you
                                         
                                        what would be good
                                         
                                        now
                                         
                                        who could we
                                         
                                        accuse
                                         
                                        Owen McDermott
                                         
                                        No, no one would ever believe that.
                                         
    
                                        See what Cadden did there.
                                         
                                        Very clever and satirical.
                                         
                                        That's a bit too much actually.
                                         
                                        It's a little on the nose, isn't it?
                                         
                                        This is why we have libel laws.
                                         
                                        Stop people like you.
                                         
                                        Making your little jokes.
                                         
                                        How long have we gone for?
                                         
    
                                        We've gone for an hour.
                                         
                                        I think you should wrap this up.
                                         
                                        Yeah, let's wrap it up.
                                         
                                        But yeah, this is all joke inside is a truly terrible case.
                                         
                                        Horrible and depressing for all involved.
                                         
                                        And the family.
                                         
                                        have got no closure
                                         
                                        and they just
                                         
    
                                        they've been cheated
                                         
                                        of any kind of justice.
                                         
                                        You got any weird uncles, Brian?
                                         
                                        Any uncles you think would
                                         
                                        pull an old Mary Boyle if they got a chance?
                                         
                                        Mine aren't cool enough and I was testing
                                         
                                        them as well when I was little
                                         
                                        I was walking around like
                                         
    
                                        Oh, I've had so much to drink
                                         
                                        I won't remember a thing.
                                         
                                        Oh, I've had so much apple juice.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, nothing like that.
                                         
                                        There's not that much in Carlo Dinoa.
                                         
                                        I would love for something really big
                                         
                                        to happen in Carlo
                                         
    
                                        but even like in Carlisle
                                         
                                        You know what actually
                                         
                                        Now that I think about it
                                         
                                        If anyone in Carlo is going to be involved
                                         
                                        It's your dad
                                         
                                        Your dad's a big pito
                                         
                                        There you wanted libelous
                                         
                                        There's his libelous
                                         
    
                                        That's great yeah
                                         
                                        I'm accusing your dad of being a nuns
                                         
                                        You're lucky as know how podcasts work
                                         
                                        Man he still uses
                                         
                                        Teletext
                                         
                                        I think I'm good
                                         
                                        Oh no I'm joking
                                         
                                        No disrespect Jimmy
                                         
    
                                        You know we fuck with you both
                                         
                                        We're all good, we all good.
                                         
                                        Yeah, sorry, you can cut that bit on.
                                         
                                        Yes, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, I'm not, I'm going to leave in
                                         
                                        because actually it's true, but we're going to...
                                         
                                        Oh, oh, let's slip.
                                         
                                        Oh, the mask slips for once.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, I have to get the victims.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my job.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        You don't get the fun, you just get the clean-up.
                                         
                                        I just drive around the van, like...
                                         
                                        Well, I fuck up, I bring back an old lady.
                                         
                                        Is she good enough, is she?
                                         
                                        Prince Andrew's like, right, that's it.
                                         
    
                                        I'm leaving.
                                         
                                        This kid doesn't know what he's doing.
                                         
                                        No, Andrew, please.
                                         
                                        stay we'll have a good old time
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        okay we're going to end it there okay yeah yeah all right
                                         
                                        thanks for listening hey look you guys you've been great
                                         
                                        you've been amazing spread the word
                                         
    
                                        they're all nonsense yeah spread the word
                                         
                                        this is a good episode I did a lot of research
                                         
                                        you actually did now
                                         
                                        because you did a lot of research come on
                                         
                                        and you're very mentally ill
                                         
                                        I'm mentally ill it's very bad for you
                                         
                                        to be doing this research
                                         
                                        look I'm mentally ill and I've got money
                                         
    
                                        okay yes I will pay you
                                         
                                        just let me touch your hair
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
